Recently there has arisen a couple of false accusations against the Individual Body View of the Resurrection by the hyper-cessationist skeptic Chris Camillo and some of the advocates of the Collective Body View. Here we address both charges and expose their fallacies, and provide a clear explanation of some of the differences between the Individual Body and the Collective Body views of the resurrection. We refute the errors of the "heaven now" and "immortal body now" claims of the Collective Body view, and reverse the charges of "futurist" back on them. There is another podcast two weeks after this one, which takes all this further (Perfection Now, But NOT Here). Be sure to listen to it as well. If you wish to have the free PDF written lesson outline for this podcast, simply email us to request it (firstname.lastname@example.org). Be sure to mention the date of this podcast when you email us.