Barry and James are joined by, well, James to talk about his brand new book The Sacred Art Of Joking. We discover how James got into comedy, why the church is terrified of it, and why offence isn't the best way of deciding whether or not a joke should be told.
The Cooper and Cary theme music is by Roger Taylor and his latest album is The Rubicon Moment.
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