Original Broadcast Date | 08.03.2020
In this fourth episode of the Mind of Snaps Podcast LIVE Conversations series, I interview Rome Ramirez from Sublime with Rome!
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Original Broadcast Date | 08.03.2020
In this fourth episode of the Mind of Snaps Podcast LIVE Conversations series, I interview Rome Ramirez from Sublime with Rome!
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SPECIAL GUEST INFO --- Rome Ramirez
Website | https://linktr.ee/romeramirez
Twitch | https://www.twitch.tv/romeramirez
YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/user/romemusica
Twitter | https://twitter.com/RomeRamirez
Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/romeramirez/
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Make sure to become a patron on Patreon to support future content!
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Jessy (Mind Of Snaps / SheSnaps)
www.MindofSnaps.com
CONTENT --- Twitch | Youtube | TikTok
SOCIAL MEDIA --- Twitter | Instagram
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Welcome to the mind snap podcast with your host Snaps (aka SheSnaps). She's a popular twitch broadcaster, photographer, entrepreneur and adult advocate. In this and future cast expect to fall along with snaps as she learns more about her mind the world and her fellow humans. It could get messy, but stick around you might just learn something as you enter the mind of snap
Unknown Speaker :First of all, thank you for being on here
Unknown Speaker :to Hell yeah, you know it's all love.
Unknown Speaker :Fucking I know we talked about doing an in person interview we've been talking about that for fucking I don't know a million years but obviously his shit did not work out well for that.
Unknown Speaker :Crazy no one's doing in person anything right now?
Unknown Speaker :No, they fucking shouldn't be at least but you know how Went to a social distance wedding. Oh, yeah, it was. Yeah, it was Eric Right.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, Eric got married there was like, you know, really like 1520 people tops. And we're just all like, spaced out, you know, but it's crazy. You know? Yeah, though, I just want everyone to be safe.
Unknown Speaker :So you can really hope for
Unknown Speaker :that's exactly the the vibe, man. And of course, like, You're, you're someone who is considered and compassionate. So you're not gonna be like, Man, what the fuck? I want to throw a ranger.
Unknown Speaker :I mean, I do, but I know that. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :It's like, I mean, I feel like everybody does, you know, like, we've been all cooped up for so long. And then and then, you know, the country starts hurting, you know, like, because of everything that was going on socially and racially, you know? Yeah, the Black Lives Matter movement. So it's like, and, and what a time you know, so I just I really feel for people right now. I really sympathize with People and even though I don't really have like a job a talk like that, you know, like I am, you know, I'm proud to be a musician during times like this because it's like, at least people got music and they got their favorite movies and books and stuff. So yeah,
Unknown Speaker :thank God for that man. I feel like we're on the same page as far as that's concerned. Because like both of us are still able to work maybe not in one of the ways that we both started leaning on which was like touring, you know, which that's got to be kind of like a blessing and a curse, right? Because you got young kids now right? You have a two kids.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, I have a nine month old and I have a three year old who's more like a 13 year old.
Unknown Speaker :It must be nice to be able to stay home with them though like of all the times for touring to be kind of shut.
Unknown Speaker :It is it's a trip and and that's like one of the things you know, like you hit it on the head. It is a blast. in disguise, it's like, I do this for a living and you know, nobody buys music. So touring is how we all pay our bills. Um, and, but on the flip side, it's like, my job is to literally be, like, away from my family for a living. That's like, kind of how it works. That's how I that's how daddy pays the bills. So, you know, at the expense of income, I could just spend time my family. That's how, like, I'm down for that. Yeah, you know, I'll, I'll, I'll take that time that never, you know, I heard this old lady once say, you either have the time and not the money or you have the money but not the time. Hmm. And, you know, I never forgot that. And I just, you know, I count my blessings. Like at least we have a healthy family and I get to spend time with them now, so Yeah, fuck yeah, kids are crazy.
Unknown Speaker :That's what they're there for, though. Like you don't go into the steps of like procreation, not knowing that like kids are a fun thing,
Unknown Speaker :Dude, seriously? I really do. I really do believe that like if people spend time with other people with like, younger kids, you know under four year olds toddlers and younger that's like the best form of like child support or up child like protection, you know? Um, yeah man like no, kids don't want to use condoms, but do they really don't want to be chasing around a toddler?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :That's just what it is. That definitely
Unknown Speaker :is an effective form of birth control you like? Yeah, you see all the little sticky fingers KoolAid mobs running around and you're like, Whoa, shit,
Unknown Speaker :no, straight up my kid like we were in the kitchen. We're like cooking and we just made like his bowl of spaghetti and he was eating spaghetti. This is when he was allowed to eat in living room. Eating on the Ottoman eating spaghetti and I was watching him and he's like watching In his movie and he's eating it and he gets like spaghetti sauce on his mouth, but he's like still watching the movie. And he turns around and just wipes his mouth all over the couch.
Unknown Speaker :I'm like,
Unknown Speaker :excuse me. Oh my god I got so oh,
Unknown Speaker :this tiny freeloaders man no respect
Unknown Speaker :routers roommates you've ever had in your fucking life kid I swear to god.
Unknown Speaker :Oh man, I want I want to have kids like my man. And I talk about it. We're like, at that point where as soon as things kind of get a little less crazy. We're like, fuck it. Let's make some people puppies. But I also relish like, every morning that I wake up and like the most, the most taxing thing or the thing that requires my attention immediately is like the dogs. And if we let them up on the bed, then they'll shut up real quick. Like, come on here. Like let's be lazy.
Unknown Speaker :Oh, man, our sweet dogs. Yeah, that, that they they're the ones that I feel them. No sorry for cuz it's like goes to these kids killing him not even just fed but from like, like preventing them from like killing themselves like I swear to god boys are insane man. And like our dogs, you know, like they were like, you know our lives you take them everywhere sleeping on the bed sleeping on the couch, you know and then you have a baby and then you see a dog hair in the middle of its eyeball and you're like, no more dogs on the bed. Like it's like crazy. Oh my god, you know, life is is a series of adjustments, man. Yeah, you know, like, imagine being the same person you were your entire life. That sounds like so boring. Like you gotta grow you know,
Unknown Speaker :so boring and like so ignorant. You know, like, if you genuinely have the same views you have as like a young person like a teenager assumption that you're probably willfully ignoring. A lot of Important shit that you need.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, that's good way to put it willfully you're because with the internet and all that shit now it's like come on man like there's no there's no excuse to be limiting your knowledge like that you know? Mm hmm yeah that's crazy I just I feel like people need to embrace that side a little bit more you know yeah changes good looks
Unknown Speaker :fuck yeah and that's coming from from an artist friends you know that that change helps tie into like evolution of any kind of creator right?
Unknown Speaker :Oh cute You mean okay everybody we all know that like how many of our favorite artists have like their best albums or like the first two and then they just slowly get shittier and shittier and it's because of change but it's all good because it's like it grows shittier to you as like a 15 year old, but then, like your guys are kind of doing this. You know what I mean, it's like, they're getting older and maturing. And like, you're kind of like, getting like, like older but you're your teenage years and you're discovering bands and stuff, you know, you're like, how come they don't play as fast as they used to? Or as hard and it's like, I think that kids like, not staying up till five in the morning getting drunk, you know? Yeah. It has a huge effect on on the art, you know? I mean, absolutely, like, you hear musicians and, and they hate making the same album twice. That's why, you know, like, there are some artists who are phenomenal artists who really understand like, like the opportunity and the blessing that you'd get to be in a musician that travels the world and you're able to pay your bills. So you won't really insult your audience by making like a fucking techno album, metal band or something. Like, there's far and few artists who really like know, their audience and and know what they do and do it really well and stick to their guns, you know, and I don't know, I think that's tight. You know, there's like the Johnny caches of the world and stuff like that. I just think that's rad, you know,
Unknown Speaker :do you feel like, like that can feel a little bit like stifling at times the notion that every time your sense of self and like your music evolves, you stand the chance of like, kind of losing touch with someone who liked that old version of you, or that old version of you slash like your music.
Unknown Speaker :Like, they'd be lying a musician would be lying if they said that they didn't think about that because it's true. Like you're, you do think about that. Um, but for me, personally, you know, I I try to respectfully take my fans on the journey. I know the parameters What? You know what's acceptable, you know what I mean? Like, I'm part of a beautiful legacy being sublime. And I'm very grateful to have stepped into that legacy. But I wouldn't go in there and start changing up the decor, you know what I'm saying? There's no, like, I go in there and make a techno album or something like that.
Unknown Speaker :Oh my god, that just made me hurt in my soul for a second.
Unknown Speaker :Like, our bass player album, or our bass player, Eric, like, he really likes, like progressive music, like really kind of like space rock, you know? Shit, that doesn't sound anything like your quintessential sublime album that you know, we've come to love. But he's not gonna put that on a sublime with Rome record, you know, because he respects the fans, respects. You know that there are limits to to art not necessarily the limits, but there are creative boundaries that you do. kind of keep it in place for for a sense of order if, if, if not anything else, but yeah, I think some people really take that and make it extremely narrow Hmm. You know, there are some fans were like, dude, you could like, do something different, you know? Yeah, a little bit. And then there are bands who just completely operate on their own thing, which is cool. I you know, again, I have no, you do whatever you want, man, it's art. But, you know, that's that's just like my opinion and, you know, of the bands that I've come to love over the years, they've, they've always been able to kind of keep it even when dancing around and other genres or stuff like that they still kind of made it their own. Yeah, and that kind of the integrity has always been there. Yeah, it's fucking hard.
Unknown Speaker :It's gotta be like, I know just from like my own career experience. When people get into the game of like content creation. It's it's kind of a similar vibe. Like you're really putting yourself out there. You're creating what other whatever kind of content that is that fits you in that moment. And some people listen so much to other people, when they get started on Twitch that they create content that isn't truly reflective of who they are. And then eventually, they get fucking tired of it. They start feeling like they have to stay in this like kind of conform, like, I got to stay this person or else I'll lose my community. And it almost always leads to this burnout where they're like, fuck, dude, I'm starting over. I'm gonna go from the hundreds of viewers I had down to however many show up, but I'm gonna do me now.
Unknown Speaker :Like or even worse, they say fuck it. I'm done. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, dude, totally. I think it's even worse for content creators to be honest with you. Like, I mean, it's one thing for like a musician or something. Um, it must be cool to be an actor in that regard. Because you can just go do whatever role you want. Um, but for like for specifically content creators, man, it's like super hard. Like because you guys get, you know, content creators will like be output, output output output, oh, something catches on. Awesome. We're going to do a little bit more of that. And then it gets skewed it gets skewed by the audience. And like you said, After a while, like you start to, you know, you start to want to grow as a person you're saying, and you want to try new things and dude, like people are relentless towards content creators, because the moment you kind of step outside of anything, whether it's fucking tutorial videos, or whatever, you know what I mean? It's just take it I mean, yeah, really?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. Not fair. It's very deeply personal stuff that some folks will like send and it's so wild because like the goal is obviously to not take it personal, even though they're trying to make it that way. But like shits weird Man, some people get very wrapped up in who they think we're supposed to be.
Unknown Speaker :And I think that is exactly what it is. Because you see we as artists, musical artists, we're all artists but me as musical artists, like we get to hide behind our, our, in our music, you know what I mean? So like, if the fan is involved enough, they'll make it through and you know, follow my wife's Instagram and shit but like, we're trying to she's private. But, but for content creators, it's just like they fall in love with your personality. And that's that and and by the way, I do feel like that's kind of fading for musicians as well like, you know, where you can just make your album go on tour and then go hide you know, for the rest of the year like that doesn't really doesn't work like that anymore.
Unknown Speaker :People demand a lot. A
Unknown Speaker :lot of you Yeah, you you know, and honestly, like,
Unknown Speaker :I'm like, torn between that right? Because it's like,
Unknown Speaker :um, we're in the entertainment business. We are here to entertain people. Let's not get it twisted. People aren't necessarily like, they're not necessarily interested in what, who we vote for, or what kind of foods we eat or whatever, although some are, but for the most part, they are following or listening to us for one specific reason. Mm hmm. And let's not get distracted from what that point is. So, I think, you know, it's also weird when I follow artists, and they're, like, start to Super injecting their political views into things like every message and say, dude, Well, okay, like, I wasn't really expecting that, you know, and then an album and it's like, all like, going whichever way so and I don't know like that's, that's kind of where you start to like, lose people I feel like and then you start to turn people against each other. And so like, there is like a way where you can kind of like peacefully do what you need to do and grow without, you know, putting a divide. Yeah, you're always gonna, you're gonna lose everybody, you're, you're gonna lose a few people along the way. Yes just goes, you know,
Unknown Speaker :no one no one gets to live that life where they are for everyone and everyone is for them. And that's like one of the hardest things to communicate to the community here is because there's so many people in my community that are very interested in content creation or in pursuing some other kind of career that puts them like in front of people like that. And just like letting them know straight up like listen, there are going to be people who hate your fucking guts. You will have no idea why or maybe you will but like, either way, you can't let that shit faze you because like, even before you started putting your face on shit, there was someone who hated you. Like there's people get so twisted up. You could be the nicest fucking person in the world and they're gonna look at you and just be like, no, he fuckin looked past me one day and you're like in your headspace and out, therefore he's a dick, you know?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. And then they'll just comment on that for like the next five years.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, exactly. They fucking hold it. But like, like going back to to you talking about like artists and incorporating things like politics and stuff. Typically, I'm kind of with you when it comes to like any kind of artists or anyone who wants to allow their stuff to be for everyone, and so they don't put on it put in anything that could be potentially divisive. But like this particular year, or I guess you could even say the last four. I feel like that's no longer an option. If if you're in the US, especially like it, it sucks to be in that position where you have to, like take a stand, but it's not our fucking fault necessarily. We're there and we're dealing with such Significant human rights issues that like, we really can't be of that state of mind this time around. Like, I never expected to be in a position where I would be talking so much about like politics and shit on my channel. But like, how could you not fuck yeah, now suddenly I'm like, I gotta say it friends. This sucks but we all have to vote Biden. I don't like the guy creeps me out. He looks weird. He acts weird. Like, I don't I don't. I don't want Biden in office. I want Trump out of office. Like I'm terrified of what comes next.
Unknown Speaker :It's crazy, because it's like we're constantly put in this position. It feels like, you know, like, we're always pitted against just two people that we don't want in office. And and then it becomes like this huge divide. And if one thing Trump has been extremely profound that is creating a huge divide.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, he's really good at that.
Unknown Speaker :I can't he he did. even have to build the wall. He already did it. Yeah. And he did it in the United States of America. So it's, it's, it's a really weird time in that regard. And, and I do agree that you know, the one floor there, there were a series of positive things but one of the, you know, big positive things from from these latest events, I think is that it taught people that it's okay to talk about Yeah, these racial and justices it taught white people that it's okay to talk about it. Yeah, you know, like you, because the problem we don't talk about, it's like your own relationships, right? Like when you just hold shift in you after a while you become resentful, or it becomes awkward or and you get all these weird emotions that are just super avoidable if you just discuss Yeah, you know, talk to people about it. And, and I you know, I I'd even love to like to see some of my friends who aren't entertainers. Just some of my friends. Who are they just On their Instagram, you know, like, especially when George clay was murdered, like in the beginning, like, you know, they were on Instagram just like talking about it openly and it was, you know, it was, it was it was kind of awesome to see them discuss their feelings. Yeah. Because normally you wouldn't know. And I don't know, like, children. They're the next generation of everything right. So I feel like it's in their best interest for us to be able to express that, that, that pain, that fear and unacceptance they, they need to understand that Yeah,
Unknown Speaker :yeah, man. I grew up like raised by a white family. Because like my my real dad's from Mexico, but I didn't I didn't get to grow up with him. So I was raised in like a really conservative area outside of the city of Chicago. So like, most of the summers and weekends and shit, I was down there seeing shows and stuff. But otherwise, like, I was so ignorant, and at that point, it wasn't necessarily willfully ignorant because the systemic racism is so fucking bad. Like, I would have had to work really hard to find the information that should be so fucking evident. It's it
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, but now our nursery rhyme
Unknown Speaker :Yes. And now thank god we're in this position where like like you're talking about the fucking youth we've got this massive platform there's people on Tick Tock just spitting spitting facts is like 16 year olds. I was such a fucking idiot at 16. I know. I know. But like we're in a point now where you just can't be ignorant and if you honestly don't see the stuff as what it is, you don't see just how bad the racism and the hate in our country has gotten. Then like you are following the wrong people. You got to get your shit together, but because to the rest of us, this is plain as fucking day.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, and think, you know, we can't really like we can't make villain. The people who disagree. That's, I think where the big problem is happening is it's more it's more fun to watch videos online of watching the racist guy yell at the guy with the sign than it is to watch bills being passive, like, you know, justice. Yeah. And, and, and, you know, it's it's fun to make a villain it's fun to say fuck those people, man they're tearing down signs right? Um, but it shouldn't be it shouldn't be fuck anybody, man. It shouldn't be like, man I feel for them. Because it goes back to what we were saying like, you know, education like, that is the real fucking problem here. People are not educated enough in certain things, you know, whether it be how other cultures live their life or whether it be you know how the voting system works. Regardless, education is a huge thing and how could you expect people who don't have great education to make great financial decisions to make great decisions for their health to make great decisions to elect the people who run the law to even make those other two possible. No, it really does it. I don't know, man like, because there's people in my family who right down the middle, I got people who want Trump on office and I got people who bought Biden in office, you know what I mean? And, and I hear both, you know, and, and, and I understand everyone's frustrations, but when it boils down to is, you know, I just don't believe that people are really getting the proper education. And then there are those few people who just snub their nose to it. Yeah, facts and most people are fucking idiots. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :That's okay. But like, you have
Unknown Speaker :those, you know, I do agree, though. Like there's, there's this really weird line to walk right because we're trying to view people as humans, we're trying to understand kind of the psychology of it and recognize how easy it is to remain ignorant. If you You know, that's all you hear. It's like we talk in chat about how like we try to give assholes a break. Because for all we know their parents are assholes. their siblings are assholes, their extended family, all their friends, everyone. Yeah, like everyone they know has been toxic since forever. So when you meet their bullshit with more bullshit, you're just proving to them that that's what the world is. And it this is not a position that everyone should feel themselves like obligated to be in. But whenever past possible acting out of compassion and looking at this person saying like, Can we have a serious conversation about this? Without it turning into just like yelling and screaming it in my experience has led to more good discussions, but like you know, that's that's not something that we're going to say like, especially to black people and people of color who are being like harmed by this shit day in and day out. It's not on y'all to like, sit and try and teach racism Not to be racist. This is where those white allies need to step the fuck up.
Unknown Speaker :That's how the system No, absolutely. I don't believe anybody has to openly tell somebody to teach somebody how not to shit on them. Hmm. That is ridiculous. But you know you Yeah. It takes it takes a lot of take takes a lot of strength to get to compassion when you're so hot. Yeah, so pissed. And you're so angry to just see through that and, and, and come from from a position of compassion, man, you know, that's, that's, yeah, practice that every day.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. Do you do that? Do you practice compassion on a daily basis in some form?
Unknown Speaker :Dude, I have to, I have to because there are some times where my three year old will just like just throw his 99 month old brother like on the floor and you're just like How do I not want to spank your ass? Right? We don't spank our kids as a kid, same, you know, I was spanked as a kid and I'm fine. I'm a great father, you know that so I don't really know, the science or whatever, but we choose not to. That's just it's our decision with our kids and we choose not to spank our kids. And, and, you know, obviously I try and practice compassion in many forms of ways. But every day it's a constant reminder because you're you are your child's world. So you have to what world do you want them to live in? Right? Yeah. So it's, it's, it's for us it's constantly just like lead by example. Lead by example. It's so hard it's so hard not to just give in to how you know who fuck man Yeah, you know, like, or like, you know, it's it's hard not to make your bullshit your children's bullshit and and that right there is is he's had to be mindful of that man. And and then I take into pretty much everything now, you know, I mean, prior to having children, like, being in a band is just constantly giving everything that you have for pretty much nothing until people will find the value in that. And and in doing that, you know, you do meet a lot of people who have very little you know, to their name and, and people who just are you know, really just have have a lot to say and you hear a lot of stories and you can't help it become compassionate. You know, I feel that come up.
Unknown Speaker :During the come up yo speaking of that, when when we decided we were going to do this. I like sat and was kind of like just daydreaming thinking about stuff that we could talk about, even though I knew like it would just go where it goes. But I was like, Oh, I'm gonna be like that girl that goes to the band when they're playing and where's the band shirt. I'm going to be that fucking guy today. So I'm gonna wear my sublime. shirt. And it has, um, as I'm finding this in my closet, I was like, trying to think about how long I've had this. And like, I, I grew up on sublime. Like, I remember being like, I had moved to this area outside of Chicago when I was really young. And one of my first friends that I met in third grade had introduced me to sublime, like in in the year years of like, third to fifth grade somewhere around there. And I have like that. Oh, God, I don't even know. But I know. I know. Bradley no died when I was like, 1096. Yeah, cuz I remember being in her bedroom as little kids. And like, she had all these fucking horrific porcelain dolls all around her room. These little fucks were just staring at us. It was awful. But I remember laying on her bed and singing along to sublime with her and like we're little fucking kids and we're singing caress me down like new holes. fuckin words, and it's so messed up looking back on it but also so funny. The fucking the most dirty one but having no idea I'm singing about a fucking mushroom tip and I have no idea what the fuck that means, but like I remember her going to school. I remember her going to school after after Bradley died. And it was some kind of like a show and tell kind of thing or something. And everyone was like standing up in their seats and sharing something with the class and she stood up and was just so bummed and she was like, Bradley Knoll died. And like, there were like three kids in the class that were really upset and it was like me, her and one other kid. So it was just so weird to like, reflect on that and be like, I actually have been like listening to this stuff from a really young age because of our like older siblings influences. I've had this shirt since junior high school.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, cuz that's an older shirt. I had the same shirt put in green because they did a black one and kind of like a baseball. greens like a forest green kind of,
Unknown Speaker :bro. How nuts was it finding that you're like working with them now, though? Do you still get like tripped out over that
Unknown Speaker :every day? I mean every day because it's like, it has been the most incredible journey that I've ever heard of, you know? You know, for me at least, like I, I wanted a big life when I was a kid, I had some really big aspirations and, and I knew I was gonna get there. Because that's just all I knew all I wanted. Um, but I never knew it'd be this. I never knew this big, you know, my big life I just wanted to be able to pay my rent play music. Yeah, but like so. You know, it trips me out man to this day every day. You know, like everything in my life has come from sublime has come from sometimes music and you know, even before I met Eric and but prior to that, musically everything that I really like, talked to to heart and learned and took inspiration came from sublime too. So it's been like a just a life full sublime.
Unknown Speaker :It's like a sublime life. Oh my god.
Unknown Speaker :I don't know it's tight. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's incredible. I try to explain to my kid but you know, he don't really get it yet, so I'll explain something later.
Unknown Speaker :Maybe by the time he's five, he'll get it.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. And it's crazy, cuz like for the rest of the world, like chip moves on, you know what I mean? It's like, oh, cool, sometimes back again, 10 years ago, rat, you know. So it's like, you know, for everyone else, it's like, whatever. But for me, I still think about this shit all the time. Every time I get into my car every time I wake up, dude, there's still this. There's still times like at least maybe once a week, sometimes twice a week, where I'll just be in the house and I'll like just pause for a second and I'll look around. And like, every fucking thing in this house, including the house itself. Especially Paid for by music, by me derived from music, not from anything, not from retail, not from a clothing company I have not from Fuck, it's all from music. And I'm just blown away by that still, to this day still.
Unknown Speaker :I think that's the right attitude to have though. Like if there was such a thing is to keep yourself mindful of that forever. I think that's where people get twisted up as they start. Like, you've certainly seen some artists and I've seen some content creators that get to a certain level of notoriety and then it just becomes this expectation from them. They feel entitled to a certain lifestyle or something. But like, I'm just so grateful to do this. If I can't do content creation anymore, and all this goes away. I'm gonna be so happy that it happened. You know, like, Fuck, man, that was a cool five years of my life. How rad that I got to do that.
Unknown Speaker :I'm sure every one of our favorite artists, we enjoy connecting with people Hmm, that's That's the best part. There's, there's fucking, you know, hella people watching this right now. And, and I think that that's, we wouldn't be doing this no one was watching you know, it's beautiful like we don't take that for granted. And, and like you said there are people who get to a point where they they lose track of that. And that's when they start thinking that it's all about them, they can go make that fucking techno album, or they can stop doing this type of content because now they want to drop the hip hop album, or now they want to get into acting and it's like, Yo, this isn't about you. It's about the people, the community you've created. It's about the art you put into the world. It's the timing of it and the magic, there's magic. When something works, I think and you have people that follow you and see the vision that you see. That's magic. There's there's there's something that's working there and, you know, you don't want to fuck around with that too much. You don't want to. You don't want to be bigger than the magic, you know. Yeah, never. You should never think yourself bigger than that. Because Because it ain't about you. It's about them. Fuck, yeah.
Unknown Speaker :Fuck yeah, that's how I feel in this community. There's, there's some definite idle culture going on where, you know, everyone wants to stand somebody, and like, I make jokes about standing people, but otherwise, like, I try to reiterate regularly through streams, like, please don't, please don't get too attached to like me as some, like head of this community, like I could get hit by a bus tomorrow and be gone. And I don't want anyone to ever think that like, I was a requirement for any of this community stuff to work, like, I just gave you a place to connect. Like, we're all growing together, you know? And you're, you're out there putting out this dope ass music that gives people that ability to connect if something should happen to you. It doesn't mean that connection is gone. Like find those those people right?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. That's it, you know, and, and that's what's really rad about music specifically is that you know, and Even like streaming, I have my problems with streaming or whatever sure what artists doesn't, right. But aside from that, you know how fuckin cool it is to not have a CD get taken down from the shelf. That's pretty sick, like shuts up, and it's there forever, you know? Well, until the next big thing is, but yeah, for now it's crazy, right? So it's like, you know, I, I think it's pretty rad that, you know, we'd be able to learn all this, practice all of it, and then record it and then put it out to the world, you know, an injury instance. I mean, you, you basically go on tour every day. You talk to your community every single day and and, and they love you for that, you know, and, and that's why it's hard not to, not to put people on a pedestal because, you know, it takes a really special person to wake up and want to do this every single day. It does. You know, miss the hate in the midst of self doubt and all that bullshit that we got to deal with as humans like, let alone You know, on the business side of everything, it's not always as awesome as it looks to people, you know, in every industry and everything. Yeah. Well, you know, I, I think that, you know, it does take a special person to be able to get everybody together and say, Hey guys, it's all good. We're all in this together, let's make some music or let's talk about stuff or let's draw, let's write or whatever, you know, but whatever it is it it takes a really special person and, and people there's not a sea of those people out every single day, you know. So it's like, when people do see that they're grateful and they're like, you know, love this person. Don't ever get it by bus. That's where it comes from, you know, but, but I do think that in doing so, you know, God forbid you were to leave the earth. You know, anybody what what it does is it leaves a void for a follower person who followed you take the reins and kind of do what you did and put their twist And continue moving forward. Yes, that's what it is, you know, whether it's, you know, a band or a fucking reiteration of a movie or, or Jesus, you know what I mean?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :It's, it's something so good and it's and it only works for good stuff man can't You can't do it with bad shit, you know, negativity it doesn't have doesn't have a shelf life like that. Hmm. At least in my experience, eventually it just dies off dies off with the person.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, especially if it's not encouraged if it's not constantly like ramped up if you're not, because you know, there's those toxic communities online that they basically recruit so many people with shitty mindsets, but those people as the majority exactly as they kind of spread out and they start having more people say kindly, like, cut that shit out. Eventually they start thinking like, wait a minute, all the nice people are telling me just to chill and all of the really angry people are telling me this is the only way
Unknown Speaker :And then you know, God forbid it ever gets big enough it gets clamped it always just becomes some sort of subset of population. Yeah, but no, like when things get too bad it gets corrected you know? Yeah, I feel like it does I at least happening right now yeah god that's actually what's happening right now
Unknown Speaker :literally what I was thinking yeah I really fucking hope so cuz like for this year to be the shit show that it is and to not see essentially like a revolution come out of this it will absolutely be disappointing, you know? And scary because the the main thing that we're looking for is to get this guy out of office who clearly thinks that people of color are animals and that that black people you know, basically deserve everything that they're getting, wants to create this crazy dictatorship. Like this is horrifying, really scary shit I
Unknown Speaker :think. I think this will be I mean, this will have a profound impact on the world moving forward because there's just no way that this timeframe the last five years will not be documented in history. But you know what I mean? Like are like my kids are going to be reading about this and this will affect how they treat people and how they act. So it's like are we going to see any sudden changes within the next year? Fuck no, this is going to be a long slow process you know, of course because changing human you know, coding and wiring and the shit that they they you know, idolized like changing all that it takes time, man, it takes a lot of time and we have to be patient. We have to be patient with this but you know, I do believe that good will come from this I'm optimistic person. You know, I don't have time I don't hang out with people. have no time for people who are you know, who come around and are like, Fuck the world. Fuck people. Yeah, all that stuff like I don't that's, that is not the way to go about Yeah, not my world. You know what I mean? It's not fuck the world's love the world and it's like yes people like, yeah, we're in this together, you know what I'm saying? So Transcribed by https://otter.ai