Original Broadcast Date | 09.26.2019
This was my first ever live recording of the Mind of Snaps podcast.
Had a dope conversation and I think y'all will enjoy it.
Check it out and then follow him everywhere ya can & support his amazing art and great attitude!
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SPECIAL GUEST INFO --- Yung Khan
Website | https://khanartist.org/
Twitch | https://www.twitch.tv/YungKhan
Twitter | https://twitter.com/Yung_Khan_
Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/yungkhan/
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Original Broadcast Date | 09.26.2019
This was my first ever live recording of the Mind of Snaps podcast.
Had a dope conversation and I think y'all will enjoy it.
Check it out and then follow him everywhere ya can & support his amazing art and great attitude!
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SPECIAL GUEST INFO --- Yung Khan
Website | https://khanartist.org/
Twitch | https://www.twitch.tv/YungKhan
Twitter | https://twitter.com/Yung_Khan_
Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/yungkhan/
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Make sure to become a patron on Patreon to support future content!
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Jessy (Mind Of Snaps / SheSnaps)
www.MindofSnaps.com
CONTENT --- Twitch | Youtube | TikTok
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All right, I figured out how to do things and stuff and I'm so excited to do the very first live episode of the mind of snaps podcast today with the amazing young Khan and I now know that there's no underscore on Twitch so that's cool what's up Khan
Unknown Speaker :no the much much at all I'm a coffee ready to rule you
Unknown Speaker :can have coffee this late.
Unknown Speaker :Have coffee from sunup to sundown
Unknown Speaker :it's set up again oh my gosh, I would not be able to I would be up until forever
Unknown Speaker :Okay, got it. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :Oh, that makes sense. You're a go getter. Let's let's start this off all productively and professionally and shit and have you just promote the hell out of yourself? Where will people find you and what will you be doing when they find you?
Unknown Speaker :You can find me. Tough
Unknown Speaker :seven days a week. Yeah, it's a tough question. I'm always available basically, seven days a week in live streaming, art and graphic design at Twitch. tv slash young con. You can find me a website, con artists.org.
Unknown Speaker :Twitter. I'm on Twitter pretty often.
Unknown Speaker :Young underscore con underscore because some Mongolian rapper has the original young cat for some reason and Damn, Instagrams the same thing young con.
Unknown Speaker :All right. So everyone go follow him everywhere. You want to be his friend for sure. So, you did some emotes for me, like forever ago. It's been many long times, um, but I remember like initially meeting you and thinking like, you're so chill. I really want I loved working with you, it was a very easy process, you know. So when it came time for that panel that I brought you in for, that was like one of the first times that we were able to get to know each other even further, you know, versus like, hanging out in your stream a little bit and kind of getting to know you that way. It was really cool getting to hear some of your perspective on things, which was the main reason that I brought you in here today was to get that same perspective. I had so many people come up to me saying you're so insightful and very interesting. And I was like, yeah, it's fucking awesome. I can't wait to like, have another conversation with you. So we're just gonna like jump right in. I was telling everyone earlier. Like, I have no idea what I'm even going to talk to him about. All I know is I want to like dig around in his brain.
Unknown Speaker :So let's just start Do you have a life philosophy?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, big brother. life philosophy is just, I don't know about that. Oh, no, everyone does. They just don't know it. Just verbalizing this can be difficult.
Unknown Speaker :Everybody has a life philosophy.
Unknown Speaker :Sometimes it's just not easy to put out into words. Um I guess, I guess in a single word, it could be just conquer. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :conquer. conquer, of course. And that is like one of your social media things which is dope that that like works out really well with your name.
Unknown Speaker :Oh, by accident, by the way, really by accident. Yeah. My nickname comes from a place to do Mongolian wrestling.
Unknown Speaker :So that's not the name nickname con.
Unknown Speaker :I was gonna ask where that came from. Someone else was saying that too, that you you had some experience in some form of like martial arts or something. So I was wrestling?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, Mongolian wrestling. I've been doing martial arts for over 20 years. 20 years 20
Unknown Speaker :almost 25 years now.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. That's awesome. When did you start?
Unknown Speaker :1012
Unknown Speaker :he looks young holy crap.
Unknown Speaker :Be 37 in a week, so that's awesome.
Unknown Speaker :To be early birthday. Oh, yay. So wait what what is what is Mongolian wrestling compared to like the standard wrestling that I would know of around here?
Unknown Speaker :A smugly wrestling is called sua Zhao. In China, it comes down from China. It's a it's wrestling, if you fall down, you lose. So it's wrestling based on if you you fall on the ground with with your opponent, you lose points, your the whole goal is to stick to keep standing up. Because if you fall down, you might get trampled by a horse. So it's really meant for combat so if you get thrown either the person you thought on with them, you might get stabbed. So that was the philosophy behind it. Yeah, well, it's his wrestling that was based around, you know, fighting off horseback and getting down. It like fighting around weapons. So you don't really want to throw a person on top and make it stand by somebody else. Stand up we're standing your feet
Unknown Speaker :is this isn't it? Is it all similar to like Judo then are you trying to like do hip tosses and throws them shit
Unknown Speaker :hip tosses throws, you just lose points if you fall. If you when you wrestle you fight the arena that's a couple feet off the ground. So you want to fight in a ring that's about a flipping round. So you can't really fall out of it. If you do, you might twist an ankle. So it's really important to stay inside this circle, teaches awareness stuff like that.
Unknown Speaker :Wow. I could imagine like I remember doing doing the jujitsu tournament and like they had it taped off. But like if you went outside of that space, you definitely like lost points or could get potentially D queued. But you weren't about to like fall off of something while you're doing it. But I'm like I'm really tripping out trying to picture how this starts. So like, you assume the position to begin your match. What is the position look like?
Unknown Speaker :Oh, you started standing just standing for each other. Wow.
Unknown Speaker :And then you're just rush What is your like your go to? are you rushing and trying to grab? Are you wearing like a gear anything?
Unknown Speaker :Oh, you were like a very thick like near the top of a belt so I don't rush No, I wait. I wait till they make a move. Like it's like chess you gotta gotta wait you gotta go see if they're no they're jumped to your knife. It's all about the because you can, you could plan for five moves ahead just like anything else is just once that initial contact happens you can feel how loose or how you know how they want to play the game. Some people just want to go in there start struggling immediately have them tire themselves out. That was once that that moment comes I do turn it up to 120
Unknown Speaker :Oh, I can imagine
Unknown Speaker :pick somebody out of the ring. Damn. I'm
Unknown Speaker :gonna have to like look up a bunch of YouTube videos on this. I'm super interested.
Unknown Speaker :It's fun to watch.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, but it wouldn't be and I like I like that you compared it to chess because that's That's something that people refer to Jiu Jitsu as a lot as like human chess because it's kind of a similar concept except there's, you know, stand up and ground game, where you're you're stripping hands and you're wrestling and like, every move that they make, you're thinking 10 moves ahead, like, okay, so if I do this, they're gonna do this probably, from there, I'll move to this way and kind of so on and so forth. You just continue on with that thought process. But it's, it's very interesting to have body mechanics factored into that, you know, huh? Is that the only form that you do? Or do you do other stuff, too?
Unknown Speaker :Oh, no, please. We got a list teaching for a while too. Yeah. Okay. Let's start off doing northern Shaolin in my early teens. I was a competitor and science show full contact kickboxing for about five or six years. Oh, taut. Chin Tai Chi fullframe Bhagwat song they're all internal martial arts and in between that did come out a lot which is Indonesian hand to hand combat or close quarter combat. Jesus like knife fighting stick fighting. Lots of small movements stuff you use in like body garden kind of things like basic self defense stuff where you know, there's knife awareness and hand awareness body awareness stuff like that.
Unknown Speaker :Did you do bodyguard stuff too?
Unknown Speaker :Oh no, I just security very briefly got it. No body guard stuff.
Unknown Speaker :That's so so you you got into martial arts really young and then you were just like, fuck it. I want to do all of it. Hmm, I feel that damn so what's what's the difference between yourself kickboxing and Muay Thai Are you aware?
Unknown Speaker :Don't there's thrills in it? So Oh, somebody grabbed a sweep them to take them down. You can you do find an elevated platform again.
Unknown Speaker :You're all about those danger platforms, man. I like it.
Unknown Speaker :Well, if you train in a certain way, you'll keep on making the same mistakes. So if you don't want to fall off the edge of a cliff is best. No. Practice on a clip. maybe six inches tall, maybe a foot tall. Yeah, just don't if you take that that ladder granted, this is not real, because it's just a lie. You know, you can, you can step over in time, there's no consequence for Yeah, if you put a little bit of danger in there, like a little six inches a foot, two feet, three feet, you'll be less likely to litter and wouldn't push you that far off the edge.
Unknown Speaker :Man, this is so interesting. I can't I can't wait now to talk to my boyfriend and his brother because his brother was a D one wrestler in college. And now he's getting into Jiu Jitsu his purple belt at this point. But it's like, I think the awareness aspect of that the idea of you being on a platform is so interesting, because yeah, like you're really conditioning your body. What a cool thing to be like locked into is your surroundings. Damn. And I like the idea of Muay Thai with Bros. That's combining a lot of things that I really enjoy for sure.
Unknown Speaker :Just like close to enemy, but there's no ground game.
Unknown Speaker :Do you do you have you gotten into any physical fights? A bunch a bunch. How willingly does that happen? Like, are you are you a hothead? You always seem very calm, very
Unknown Speaker :chill. Oh, you mean outside the ring?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, like actual fights, not like in a training I should have definitely specified like
Unknown Speaker :they weren't really fights because I hit them. And it wasn't really quite after that.
Unknown Speaker :When you have that kind of skill. I really don't imagine those fights last long. I'm sure that they, they have a moment of feeling tough and then a lot of moments of regret,
Unknown Speaker :diffused a bunch of situations missing that.
Unknown Speaker :So worked as a bartender for about seven or eight years before I did this lesson. A lot of times it's just people just Dump they just it's too much alcohol in them is I've never been in situations where you know I you know incited so much fury that they want to hit me
Unknown Speaker :Hmm So it's just them getting beer muscles
Unknown Speaker :beer muscles you know working the door sometimes it worked at door to bar a little, little little sleepy town, small town
Unknown Speaker :town bar out here in Ohio.
Unknown Speaker :Just like people will call me just to fill in for a day or two huh? Well even then the guys that were bigger than me I'm like me. don't really want to do this. This will happen. You see what's happening over there. Cops be down here 30 seconds and take you dial up the tape for two or three days. up a big fight get a lawyer Do you want to go through all that not worth it? Do you think I don't want to go there. I wasn't on there signing paperwork. I know, you know, usually comes in right now. But who? Yeah, I don't have 500 bucks for a lawyer.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :When you start work into it, like oh, I gotta write things with a pen and stuff. That's torture to me.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, once you could talk to somebody talk somebody out if you can talk about people on anything,
Unknown Speaker :especially honestly, if they are drinking like a lot of times you can, like things hit you a little harder like you get a little angry faster, but you also are like whoa, you're right like a little bit faster I think. Have you ever had or do you get a lot of unwanted kind of aggressive attention if you go I don't know if even go out to like bars normally to just like chill and hang out. Not anymore.
Unknown Speaker :This is I got sick. I don't really drink that much anymore.
Unknown Speaker :Oh,
Unknown Speaker :they'll call but like to a joke or for me can cause a flare up so
Unknown Speaker :Oh, really? I didn't know that a flare up of what if you want to share?
Unknown Speaker :Oh, I don't
Unknown Speaker :know. You're new have muscular disease. Oh shit. Yeah, got it, uh, go for for four years, five years ago now. If five years ago, I came down with a my sta Gravis. It's a neuromuscular disease that it came on it affected my I like my I stopped working And then it worked my way down and I couldn't like swallow food or water and then I couldn't walk or talk
Unknown Speaker :Jesus. Oh,
Unknown Speaker :yes really rare. So now just taking medication. I shouldn't be like, all jokes aside I shouldn't be doing as I'm doing right now.
Unknown Speaker :Really like the heavy caffeine intake. How does that I shouldn't be power like they make like you shouldn't be lifting heavy weights.
Unknown Speaker :Damn. Like I should not be this big with this disease.
Unknown Speaker :Wow. But like how do you feel most days? Do you feel pretty good? You'll
Unknown Speaker :feel great most days. That's wild. I get more stuff done before I got sick than I did before I was you know actually no fully functional.
Unknown Speaker :Wow. So like did that change your perspective on anything like
Unknown Speaker :getting out of stuff? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :Like I was pretty much into
Unknown Speaker :a bit of Eastern philosophy most of my life but afterwards, you know, when you're laying in hospital bed for about See I was in there for blood. Two months ago I had the surgery things they've drastically forget focus up to smallest molar attention like it's, it's you get focused out 12 on needle point of like, on the left side of your life and the right side of your life this is what's happening. And then this major event happens and it shapes everything else down that path. Wow,
Unknown Speaker :what was the surgery
Unknown Speaker :thymectomy by mech to me is a with a I got six cuts on both sides my ribcage, reached it and put on my famous gland removed it and that helps curb the disease the symptoms of the disease now
Unknown Speaker :Is it is it expected to progress or like medication plus the surgery plus you kind of like having a healthy lifestyle in general is that like are you pretty much
Unknown Speaker :good?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, it's pretty good. Um, the things that affected are too much stress
Unknown Speaker :too much I'll call smoking
Unknown Speaker :no muscle relaxers. No marijuana. No, I'm getting sort of that affects the muscles really
Unknown Speaker :interesting.
Unknown Speaker :Planes while you're not supposed to do the weightlifting and stuff, if any muscle really
Unknown Speaker :the thing is you're not supposed to exhaust your muscles. Oh, you are powerless now. So power lifters you kind of like you lift and you sit up for five minutes. The first. Yeah, then you like sit down, you know, you stretch out a little bit. You lift again, you sit down. So powerlifting is like the is the is the the workout preferred for this disease, I believe, or that's what I'm telling myself. I mean, I've been doing it for about three years. So
Unknown Speaker :and like you said, you feel good, which I think is a very undervalued thing for people, you know, like, all of these different things are being factored in. But a big part of things is like how do you feel You know, like, I'm supposed to be on medication for my heart. But if one of the main side effects of it was dizziness, and that was what the issue was causing in the first place. So I was like, I'm not going to take a pill to regulate my dizziness, if it might make me dizzy. You know, should I be on it potentially, like sometimes the fluctuations can be a pain in the neck, but like, I feel good most days. So we'll just say it's good, you know, no need to stress too much over it. Who is speaking of stress? So that's a big part of this. How do you manage your stress? You said you're big into like, Eastern philosophy and stuff. Was that that all tie in?
Unknown Speaker :Oh, yeah. I mean, if it plays out in most, in most everything I do. Because, I mean, I guess you've heard the Buddhist way before there's a middle path. Not too much left. Not too much, right. You don't want to know how to do things too little or too much. So I try to keep things and I want to pass. I don't want to get too No, I don't want to overwork myself. But you want to do too little work. Yeah. But I'm not really stressed out by my job because of my previous experiences. I mean, my everyone's misery stress will be different. Like some people think that you know, taking their dog for a walk in the road for a nipple is stressful or no, I'm babysitting can be stressful. Like my level of stress is a lot different than other people's levels of stress. I grew up in Detroit nice Cleveland, like I've been a victim of gun violence. I'm like, it's not my level of stress is measured by people's level of stress. My littlest Chris, like my work my work 17 hours a day on my business. Between the streaming the invoicing, the you know, talking to clients, but I loved every second of it.
Unknown Speaker :My stress I had from working was basically you know,
Unknown Speaker :when I worked in high schools fresh illustrates will work with you Kids, what did you do at the high school? Visit? Oh,
Unknown Speaker :that's dope. No decade
Unknown Speaker :was 20 you know, 12 years ago,
Unknown Speaker :wild to be able to put anything and even like 10 years plus when you look back at your life, Holy fuck. I've been doing this for that long. That trips. No,
Unknown Speaker :it feels weird because I don't feel any different than I did when I was 25 or 27. I feel better now than I did a decade ago. And I've got a neuromuscular disease. Wow.
Unknown Speaker :And that's wild. How did you When did you start doing art and everything?
Unknown Speaker :Oh, I'm sure the Disney one came up.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, I took a decade off from draw like once I started teaching, I didn't draw anything. Oh, I took a long long ago was I bought a new house. Had the job of the school that was taking a lot of time. I was competing in my In tournaments all the time
Unknown Speaker :I have probably
Unknown Speaker :I have like over 100 trophies in like 4050 medals so I was competitor a big time competitor them in the tri state area here. Pennsylvania,
Unknown Speaker :Ohio, Michigan,
Unknown Speaker :lower Canada, Ontario. I did that for quite some time. So that took up a lot of exam and then like I got sick and I couldn't really do anything to like do anymore like I saw my makeup one on Instagram. I was like, oh man, these two aren't like that. I would have to get back into and that was that was three years ago this October later I got into doing you know the art No, a few like six months after that. I got into doing like small commissions and now it's it's two years running this as a full time gig.
Unknown Speaker :That's so cool. Especially because it was Cobb and I love Cobb. He's such a nice dude. I've known him since day, one day. too so that's cool that that was what like made you think maybe I shouldn't do this again. And now like I saw you at Guardian con this past year with your booth, and I was gonna stop in and say hi and I was like, bro is busy like there is no time for me to squeeze in there when you got like a line of people and you are just like, engrossed in what you're doing like you're fucking killing it man.
Unknown Speaker :That was surreal.
Unknown Speaker :Was it not like that last year? Was this your first year having a booth?
Unknown Speaker :My first year having a booth? Oh,
Unknown Speaker :I had the booth. I did the talk with you. I did the panel with you. And I was also I was in charge of the I was the head designer for the the award show that night.
Unknown Speaker :Oh, I didn't know that. That's cool. Oh, yeah. The
Unknown Speaker :the the limited.
Unknown Speaker :The original words that did the top down design for that for the graphics, the motions, the motion graphics, the logo, everything. So I was, it was a crazy crazy garden for me.
Unknown Speaker :Wow. So how did you feel walking in there? And like seeing the stuff you created being used on such a big scale? Is that the first time that's happened?
Unknown Speaker :You have nervous nervous. Yeah. Because you know, I had to relinquish the all the files up somebody else and they want to do the presentation that wasn't part of that part. Yeah, I was like, alright. And then I was checking with with them like 20 minutes before? No, like four or five hours before 20 minutes. You guys good? You guys do anything? Are you sure? Everything looks like it's gonna be okay. All right. I'll be over here.
Unknown Speaker :That's cool that they involved you in that? I didn't know that. And then what about your booth? So like the floor opens? You're chillin at your booth. How long until you had your first person and did it blow up quickly after that?
Unknown Speaker :Oh, the first 10 minutes of the doors Oh, I had no idea what I was going to. Like I invested a few thousand dollars into the booth just buying merchandise. Alright, if I don't sell anything, I think I should be okay to do giveaways every day for the next.
Unknown Speaker :You had a plan I like it.
Unknown Speaker :Well, when you invest in something like getting a booth at a convention you know, I don't know what's gonna happen, but never we never know what's gonna happen and my man Dr. Jones, he has a he's the head of the Duchy collective. Give me a bit of advice. I was like, Alright, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. And then by you know, day three, I had like a handful of shirts left like something's like a lot of things just sold out. I came out with three big bucks. I went back with half a box of just, you know, t shirts.
Unknown Speaker :Wow. That had real fucking dough.
Unknown Speaker :It was and I think I give away like 500 business cards and ever since it's been bananas.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, you get a lot of business after that. To now
Unknown Speaker :Oh, yeah, whole bunch. Yeah. Well, I was signing up people for work and the convention like, all right, about two months out, like that's fine. And then I got back from GC A month later I'm booking for a booking for January, February right now for orders.
Unknown Speaker :Oh, y'all that is what is up. That's fucking awesome. So when you were when you were at the con, were you like, like in flow just like in the moment like just move move move doo doo doo
Unknown Speaker :doo doo doo Oh, I don't
Unknown Speaker :I didn't think I would be that busy. where I'd be stand like I thought I'd be sitting out a little bit in my booth. No, I didn't sit down one minute. Like I thought I'd be sitting now. I got
Unknown Speaker :to walk the floor twice. And you're standing both times that I saw you.
Unknown Speaker :Like from doors open the doors close. I was standing up the entire time.
Unknown Speaker :That's fucking cool though. Especially like holy shit. Your book that far out. Huh? That's it. Firing is fuck I hope that a lot of the folks in here and that are gonna be listening to this podcast when it goes live like on my my actual channel I hope a lot of them are gonna hear this and be like damn Okay, so I can I can start build myself up and then potentially have a booth somewhere get my business like really rockin do the thing I love to do,
Unknown Speaker :if I started at the age was sort of 3433 maybe. And I started just like us or the art I did. When I first got started back it was it was rough it was compared to what I did. A year later, it was rough to look at. But I turned that into, you know, heading up and doing the award show for one of the biggest leg gaming conventions that for St. Jude so Wow. And this is in the span of three years roughly.
Unknown Speaker :progression is wild. It's cool because I would love to see by the way your first and like one of your favorite pieces from now. Like your first And then something that you've created that you're really proud of. One of our friends in here is pursuing her art now, Ellie, and she posted a picture of like, where she started and then where she was at like a year later, and it's just like, Are you fucking kidding me a year? Got you that much better. Wow, it really It's so fucking inspiring. And to think that you've made a business out of this, that's so strong and in lively in a relatively short period of time, and you didn't start this, like fresh out of college kind of stuff. Like, I think a lot of people are gonna love to hear that. That's one of the things I get so often is like even even people in like their 20s you know, basically kids coming in like, I don't know what to do with my life. It sucks. I have no direction. I hate my job. I feel like everything is just a dead end and I don't want to start over I'm too old. Like you're you're like a kid still, you know not to minimize that. The pain and the struggles of being young because it's the whole fucking thing. But you really can reinvent yourself whenever the fuck you want to. It's all about that intention, right?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, you can if I can do it you can do it
Unknown Speaker :Damn, that's so cool. So when you started doing your little art Commission's like, was it was that the end goal were you thinking like I would love to have this as my career?
Unknown Speaker :No I had no end goal the goal was to make more art that's always been the goal. The goal has not changed like it's it's you know it supports my family but I don't do art for the money like it's it's a lucrative business but I do art to make more art. If anybody's watched my my Twitter feed, I just pump out art all the time because it brings me great joy.
Unknown Speaker :I mean, I can't even see it right now. This I guess is one of the The good things of us actually doing this recording live. And having this here as people can see, like smiling as you're talking about creating art, you're not even doing it right now you're just thinking about doing it and you're like, Oh, yeah, fuck yeah.
Unknown Speaker :That's what everyone deserves to feel. And it's, I think it's awesome that you have kind of that general goal do more art. I have so many people who like with streaming, right, they're like, I want to be the biggest streamer. I want to be the best streamer. I want to get into this. I'm like, not that it's not a cool goal to have. But like for what purpose? You know, I think go a little broader. What part of streaming Do you really like the most for me, it's connecting. So I'm like, whatever the sub count is, whatever the numbers are. My goal is to connect to people daily and help people connect to themselves daily. If I can do that, I can do that with one person. It makes streaming fun all the time because I'm not stressing about hitting certain goals paying certain things like I'm like alright, have I connected Then we're like no, that's that's what I'm here for. And you're doing the same thing but with art.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, I think that's a pretty sure that that's like an ancient like Xin saying, move. Um It's when you're say you're going for gold they they stay compared to archery
Unknown Speaker :if you're if you're shooting for no reason your shot is on point
Unknown Speaker :if you're shooting for a gold medal, the pressure of the gold medal is going to ultimately flag the shot. See, you're going to ultimately the pressure of getting this gold walnuts off the shot. So a pure intention will bring a pure result.
Unknown Speaker :If you've seen the movie a Peaceful Warrior
Unknown Speaker :got on DVD, I read the book.
Unknown Speaker :Oh my God, my man just showed me that movie the other night and you just totally reminded me of that scene we're talking about like you know the guy up there. If you're going for the gold, you're not you're not doing the sport you love You're doing it for the gold. It's not the same Man, that's so interesting. And it's definitely a part of like, what I'm trying to advocate here for people all the time is like, find the things that are the root of the things that you want to do. You know, why do you want to do it? What part of it do you connect to? Do you want to live a life of creativity? Do you want to live a life of helping others helping animals, of learning, touring, exploring whatever, like I think, going general is the key. But we lock ourselves into career tracks as if that defines us, you know, like, I am my job if I if I'm not the best at this, or if I don't have a job that is satisfying to talk about and tell people about that. I'm not worth the shit. But it's like, what's the root of that? Why did you even like that job in the first place? connect to that if you're doing that? It's a good day, right?
Unknown Speaker :Every day, huh? Every day is a great day.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. Have you always been a pretty like optimistic person? Did you have some periods of your life where you were like, Man, fuck this. Fuck that. Fuck everything.
Unknown Speaker :No, I don't think so.
Unknown Speaker :Awesome. Is this maybe a family thing?
Unknown Speaker :No, it's not a family.
Unknown Speaker :No. Are you the one in your family?
Unknown Speaker :I'm the anomaly. Wow. Maybe I'm like my dad, but
Unknown Speaker :definitely the anomaly.
Unknown Speaker :No one understands why I do the things I do that why they do the things they do. So
Unknown Speaker :it's so interesting because like, then how did you? When did you start to like really become this person that you are now you said maybe in high school, you kind of had a little bit of a waiver. Like do you remember the first time that something happened? And you're like, man, no big deal.
Unknown Speaker :I'm
Unknown Speaker :probably getting kicked out of college the first semester.
Unknown Speaker :Why? Oh, I got kicked out for drinking.
Unknown Speaker :Oh, yeah. Interesting.
Unknown Speaker :Like I didn't drink in high school. I got my first Drinking was in college.
Unknown Speaker :And that was the that was the nail in the coffin.
Unknown Speaker :So you say like you got kicked out for drinking I imagine that you weren't like, just like sipping a margarita one day and the school approach like your audit here, Brad.
Unknown Speaker :I was more concerned with partying instead of doing less work so one semester one and done
Unknown Speaker :and you were in there for graphic design for graphic design.
Unknown Speaker :didn't make it out.
Unknown Speaker :That's so funny. And now your your career is art and graphic design.
Unknown Speaker :I do art in graphic design. I started off doing art and that moved into graphic design and then I moved into motion graphics and no animations so like I'm I only learn new things every day. You go through your Twitter feed up Instagram feed like I will learn to do that. Yes. But didn't we like we just forget about it? Yeah, not me. I'm just like are the classes for you to meet Gotta get 10.9 and the fucker is their YouTube channel like right now with no sunlight. Okay? My man
Unknown Speaker :loves you to me. I didn't know that existed until just now. Like literally this week. I use lynda.com and like YouTube and anything else books, whatever that I could find because I did the same thing I self taught like pretty much everything I've done in my life. It's just like alright, where are the resources? I'll just learn from them and then fuck around with it until I'm either good or realize I don't like it.
Unknown Speaker :You were the same way when we're children just we just forgot how to be curious.
Unknown Speaker :Oh my god.
Unknown Speaker :We just we forget that we know we have that. We could follow up on our thoughts. We should get bogged down by Lord. Oh my
Unknown Speaker :god damn it. I'm so glad I have you on this podcast right now. You have no idea like people are gonna think I fuckin like gave you a script. They're gonna be like, all right, this is this is all it's too too similar.
Unknown Speaker :Should I take these notes
Unknown Speaker :amazing. Sound Effect to like, this just became a high production show with just that one thing? No. For real, though, that's I talked about that all the time. It's like, we used to be curious and curiosity feels good. And then like as you go through the school system, and sometimes with our parents or the people who are kind of shaping us, you go from being encouraged to poke and prod and explore and ask questions to being told, like, Wait your turn, don't ask too many questions. Don't get too excited over things, or else people think you're a nerd or whatever. Like suddenly all this dumb bullshit gets put on top of what is a beautiful, pure thing, curiosity. You know,
Unknown Speaker :I think this is like the best time to be curious. But it's also like a double edged sword like you can find anything to learn anything in two seconds. Yeah. And I think people take that for granted. Like I remember being a kid you like to go, you'd like Schedule A trip to the library, get a walk down there and get a card. You just need to comb through hundreds of books to find what we're looking for. Yes, we go to the library and like can have these forth these, these eight books can only have five either put them back for next time you come back, that's, that's the kind of information you had to grab your kid
Unknown Speaker :for real and then sometimes you would go back and they didn't have those anymore. So you're like, Okay, so I'm not going to learn that this time. I guess I'll go this direction. Or maybe I'll just read Dean Koons
Unknown Speaker :you can just look at YouTube and I got picked up all the drawing like all the skills I have just watching YouTube or get the course for like 10 bucks here and there. Like I turned that those small investments into like, you know, where I can pay the mortgage and you know, you know, feed the family and keep the lights on and all that kind of stuff. But that was all basically free like one commission or two commissions paid for all that stuff. But like it went from like zero to doing this like a it's it's not it's not a it's not the most Do some of the money that you make excuses for ourselves that everything will turn. But lo and behold, everything you want is right in front of you. Like, it's all about how much time you will invest in your passion. If you're really passionate about it. There's people that say, we're not really passionate about, you know, X, Y and Z. Really, what do you learn about it?
Unknown Speaker :Oh,
Unknown Speaker :what's the last book you read on that subject?
Unknown Speaker :Ah,
Unknown Speaker :it's all cursory. It's like a surface level.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, like, well, I look up articles sometimes. Once in a while. You're like, Oh,
Unknown Speaker :yeah, yeah.
Unknown Speaker :And then I go find an author and see what is the root
Unknown Speaker :for real? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker :And I see you obviously hate books. You're not a fan of reading hated kindling
Unknown Speaker :on the fire.
Unknown Speaker :No, this this this this houses is definitely a fire hazard. Just there are some books there are books Behind me. Um, but that's probably like maybe a little less than a half of the books now. So
Unknown Speaker :how many of those Do you go back and reread?
Unknown Speaker :Probably the ones in the middle shelf probably pretty often. Yeah. On the bottom of our reference books on the top of basically all martial arts. Second was philosophy, Chinese Indian
Unknown Speaker :philosophy, religious texts, books on the mind. Art.
Unknown Speaker :books on wine. No, we're going to wine bar. Oh, that's cool.
Unknown Speaker :Oh, my interest chests, martial arts stuff. I like the free.
Unknown Speaker :It's cool because I'm constantly advocating for people to read books every day. I think book knowledge is like overlooked all too often because there is, you know, the internet and articles and YouTube and podcasts like there's so many little things you can do to get a little bit of knowledge, but I really think there's something to be said for getting real deep into a subject matter via like a book that's dedicated to it. So whenever I have people who are telling me like I'm trying to make this into a thing where I'm really passionate about learning this, that's usually the question I ask, oh, what books are you reading? Because most of the time, I'm fucking curious. And I'm like, oh, whatever you're reading, I want to add that to my list. I'll read it later. And then it's like, well, I just usually just watch YouTube videos like, okay, but do you look up any of the sources in those videos to like, make sure that they're not kind of full shit, because it's one thing to like, watch, like an art video and learn from it. But there's a lot of misinformation out there. You know, like, someone can't be telling you there's one way to do art and like be doing in front of you and be doing it wrong. You'd be like, yeah, you drew a stick figure. I'm trying to do an oil painting. Obviously, this isn't. This isn't what I'm trying to learn from. But when it comes to like advanced topics, or like things that people are really interested in, they they go through some interesting sources and then stop there. There's no additional book learning, there's no reaching out to people who are super knowledgeable on the topic. It just like stops at YouTube.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. I mean,
Unknown Speaker :books can be static.
Unknown Speaker :They it depends on no one they were written and the author was the mystery misinformation in books. Mm hmm. It's the application. That's always the interesting part is there. I mean, I read books on philosophy, I read a lot of books of philosophy, a lot. That's probably one of my biggest passions to philosophy. But there's contradictions there's you know, things all all things don't apply to all people. It just isn't possible.
Unknown Speaker :That's the truth.
Unknown Speaker :Like the the key thing I learned from philosophy is probably objectivity of self. Because everything you look at you look through your through your own lens, like, that's for sure you should be doing this, but I'm looking through it through my eyes, in their eyes. So we have our productivity, you can have empathy and compassion for that person. But shaping that they help them to shape their own, you know, subjectivity to be more objective as it's, I want to say it's almost impossible to you know, leave that with somebody unwillingly. Yeah, you willingly it's even harder.
Unknown Speaker :Yes. Oh, man, trying one of the one of the biggest struggles I think of like, what I do on Twitch here is when people want me to give them the answers, but then when I give them answers that may help them they're just like, no, that's I'm not I couldn't I don't. I'm like, Okay, well, my my role in this is officially done. Like, if you're not open to any of it, there's quite literally nothing I can do. That's gonna change like your life. Like I can't change the way you feel about yourself. I can't change the way you feel about your world. You gotta be open to it or else I'm just speaking rah rah rah to you, you know? Transcribed by https://otter.ai