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Films And Comfort Food: Mean Girls. Watching Feel Good Movies.

November 05, 2019 Johnny Spoiler. Dangerous Dave Season 13 Episode 1
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Hi, welcome to the Binge-Watchers Podcast.

A late night show for your ears with entertainment news, film history, philosophies based on movie plots, hear the adventures and successful failures of our host, JOHNNY SPOILER joined by his buddies he has known since film school, DANGEROUS DAVE, NICKY LATES, and sometimes, their friends from TV, Film, and Music come along for the ride. One epic binge-watch after another. You could say this crew are professional binge watchers because they are movie fans that grew up to to try to make some films of their own as they navigate the industry, day jobs, and real life.


On Tonight’s Exciting Episode:

"Let's get this episode started by talking about how flaccid you were in that scene that it required an intimacy consultant, and if you start tearing up you can comfort yourself by crying over a hot bowl of mac and cheese."

Just kidding, sorta, actually this month we are combining feel good movies and comfort food pairings.

So this entire month is filled with people eating food and watching the feel-good movies. And basically that's the entire month, just comfort food. And it all caps it off, at least in the United States with a giant holiday where you just, you just guarantee that the people who are with you eat food, that's it. Like, it's non-competitive. It doesn't require a salary to go out and buy a bunch of presents for a bunch of people that are not deserving of presence. It's just like if you're in the room, the only goal is to make sure that everybody in that room is eating. So it's kinda like, and that's what people care about. They feed you. So in honor of this big giant Thanksgiving event that's coming up, and yes, you could say like, Oh, it's built on blood. Yeah. Things. Terrible, terrible things that happened in the United States, but on that day, people mostly just eat and they don't think about the genocides. And in a way it's a way to combat genocide, but basically just saying, Hey guys, the world sucks. Things sucked 200 years ago, but today we're all just going to eat and drink and be Merry. Let's just literally eat food. Right. Um, I mean, and in a way like you could honor all the victims of a genocide.

First up, that flick called Mean Girls.  So fetch.
What is Mean Girls about? Well, Tina Fey went to Lorne Michaels at SNL and said hey let's adapt this self-help book into a teenie dramedy.
It's pretty famous now and is considered a contemporary teen classic in the same category as like Clueless.

"Teenage Cady Heron (Lindsay Lohan) was educated in Africa by her scientist parents. When her family moves to the suburbs of Illinois, Cady finally gets to experience public school and gets a quick primer on the cruel, tacit laws of popularity that divide her fellow students into tightly knit cliques. She unwittingly finds herself in the good graces of an elite group of cool students dubbed "the Plastics," but Cady soon realizes how her shallow group of new friends earned this nickname."

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Speaker 1:

Oh, you know, we're, we live in now.

Speaker 2:

There's too many people looking in my penis. It's shrinking. We're just going to take that 60 more times. Don't worry.

Speaker 3:

Correct. Open a cold box of wine. Oh, post something cold on eyes. Big cons. It's the binge butchers pecan

Speaker 4:

[inaudible].

Speaker 2:

So this entire month is filled with people eating food and watching the feel-good movies. And basically that's the entire month, just comfort food. And it all caps it off, at least in the United States with a giant holiday where you just, you just guarantee that the people who are with you eat food, that's it. Like, it's non-competitive. It doesn't require a salary to go out and buy a bunch of presents for a bunch of people that are not deserving of presence. It's just like if you're in the room, the only goal is to make sure that everybody in that room is eating. So it's kinda like, and that's what people care about. They feed you. So in honor of this big giant Thanksgiving event that's coming up, and yes, you could say like, Oh, it's built on blood. Yeah. Things. Terrible tear, terrible things that happened in the United States, but on that day, people mostly just eat and they don't think about the genocides. And in a way it's a way to combat genocide, but basically just saying, Hey guys, the world sucks. Things suck 200 years ago, but today we're all just going to eat and drink and be Merry. And I think it's the only holiday that doesn't really have a bias against. It's against people. Let's just literally eat food. Right. Um, I mean, and in a way like you could honor all the victims of a genocide. So you've been by saying all these people are alive and we're eating in, it's happy. And I'm talking about Genesis. Uh, yes.

Speaker 1:

And this is about feel good or comfort food. Movies. Yeah, exactly. We're talking about genocide. It's going to start with genocide. Well, there, there is

Speaker 2:

still a protest for Thanksgiving and I get it, man. I get it. Like what are you celebrating? The fact that a bunch of people died and the rest of us get eat Turkey. I get it, man. I really do get it. You know, and uh, being on both sides of the argument, I really got to play peacemaker, you know what I mean? Like I don't really have a choice. Like, okay, these people died, these other people benefited off their deaths and collected a bunch of land and now there's a whole country built on top of it. I get it. I really do get it. And there's protest every year, you know? But like I said, the only goal of that day, it doesn't have to be Thanksgiving anymore. They could just call it food day or everybody fucking eats today. You know what I mean? I'm like, that's really the only goal of that day is that everybody gets to eat right. And you'll see that with like the food drives, like the rest of your year might suck. You might not have a meal any other day of the week, but you know what? On fucking Turkey day you're eating brother and sister and cousin and little, it doesn't matter like what walk of life you are. It seems like on that day people are not assholes for some reason. And everybody just seeds, food, you know. So anyway, to gear up for this day of eating, we've decided that we would pair films with comfort foods, see would have films and comfort foods. I feel like the pitch for this series was a little bit long and as Dave said, since it involves genocide.

Speaker 1:

Well it's just, you know, simply comfort food and movies and comfort food.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's a food month. Yeah. So first up and filming comfort food, Dave decided that his feel-good movie is mean girls, which,

Speaker 1:

which by the title it doesn't sound like it's going to be a feel good.

Speaker 2:

Hi Dave. I don't know why this movie makes you feel good, but I guess in 20 minutes we'll have an under better understanding of, of, of why that is.

Speaker 1:

Well, again, again, you know, if are, if we're going to say comfort food, movies or you know, whatever interchangeable, um, feel good comfort food. Um, I don't know. It's just one of those movies that, um, you know, it's, it's a F it's easy watch, it's fun. Um, me and my wife watch it every so often. Um, I dunno, it's, it's a movie I buy all rights to not like, and yet it's so well written and so well done that it transcends it's source material or would you think it's going to be, I mean, would you, wouldn't you agree? I mean, would this not be a movie that people our age are or men should not watch? It should like,

Speaker 2:

I don't know. The book is queen bees and wannabes and it's a nonfiction.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Just felt like a self help book or something.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. But apparently the writer knew the real Jane S E N cause Janis Ian's a rock star and Janice. Ian is one of the supporting characters in the movie. But this movie, like it's kind of like Lindsay low hands, most famous movie. And it's also adapted by Tina Fey. So it's like Tina Fey's life pedigree. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a big movie that came from Tina Fey's partnership with Lauren Michaels and came out of edit a Saturday night live. Um, well at least trying to get Lauren to help develop the movie. It's got Tim Meadows as a principal and he's one of the best parts of the movie, I think. Uh, I don't know. Like, okay. My, my thing about it feel good movie is the litmus test or what? Qual, what's the qualifier is you're a bad mood. You turn the movie on. Do you feel better or it's a movie you go to if you're not feeling great. Yeah. Um, like later on we're going to talk about uncle buck cause I actually had a true feel good experience with just flipping the movie on like two days ago. So that's how the list, it'll be later on down the road. Cause first we gotta get their mean girls. So what's the setup for this? This lady wrote a book about what it was like to be a teenage girl. Tina Fey connected with the material, brought it to her boss at Saturday night live Lauren Michaels, they developed it into a movie. Um, came out like mid two thousands and Lindsay Lohan at the time was becoming something. She wasn't becoming what she is now. Yeah, I know. But

Speaker 1:

it was still like a, this is, this is probably the top of the mountain.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. She was, um, she was becoming famous, but her fame really hadn't peaked and she hadn't gone through all her personal drama and then fallen from grace, so to speak. She was still kind of on the level and as you said, it's like a pinnacle for her fame and um, I don't know well-roundedness and movies. So, uh, she was the best candidate, I guess for the job. And then I'm rounding out the cast.

Speaker 1:

Well, Rachel McAdams. Yeah. As George Geor Georgie. Ah, God, I just watched this movie in Georgia, Georgia. Georgina or Georgia spell hock. I what the fuck is her name? Regina. George. God damn it. Why did that take me so long to figure it out?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. You're not doing a very good job of selling this movie, David. Oh, maybe I just had a mini stroke.

Speaker 1:

Um, yeah, Regina, George, the, the ultimate mean girl. Then what Lacy should bear as a Gretchen wieners

Speaker 2:

and to sit freed as Karen. Um, I don't know who's playing the hot boy and I don't know. I don't think he became much, or at least not a big, big, I don't know who's playing Damian. Um, uh, the boy who's considered too gay to function by his friends. And then that turns into an insult later in the movie. Um, he's one of the supporting characters. He's kinda funny. Daniel something. I follow him on Instagram.

Speaker 1:

Oh, right. Yeah, he's, um, he's great. He doesn't, I don't think he really went on too much of a career after this. Um, I know before this he did the movie the Larry Clark movie bully.

Speaker 2:

Well, he wants a career, like he does some, he does some indie stuff, um, um, connected to his publishers or whatever. But, uh, anyway, I think he's a great actor. But yeah. What's your name? What's your name? He goes on to do, what was that show on Showtime called like party or episode or what was that show with Adam Scott where he was like a caterer.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I'm a party down.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.[inaudible] yeah. Lindsey Kaplan. Janice. Ian, who's real in real life. But anyway, um, the character version is like somebody who used to be one of the puppies or girls who got into a fight with this Regina girl that Dave is mentioning and they had a huge falling out and then she became like an anti popular person. And uh, this is like the breakout for her for that, that accurate Lindsay or whatever her name is. Right. What's her name? Yeah, Lindsay cat. Yeah. This was the thing that I didn't know her from anybody till she came out in this movie. She's really, her character in this movie is really intense though. Very kind of over the top. Um, loud and obnoxious. Really? Yeah, pretty intense.[inaudible] she was more subtle in that party down show, but she's pretty intensive as a movie.

Speaker 1:

Well, she was also on that. Um, I don't know if he ever watched it. Uh, she was on masters of sex, uh, while that shows on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So yeah. So if you want to stay, if you want to see her naked, you just watched that shoe. Well, yeah, there's this funny unwritten thing like as soon as you talk about the amount of sex that makes good television, people get really pissed off. But I'm like, I'm like, that's it. Like this unwritten thing. Okay. It's not totally unwritten cause it's in people's contracts now. Then they get writer, you know, if you work on a show, it's like, okay, you're going to show your penis and episode three while you run off a cliff. All right. Sounds good. That's in your contract. David, you didn't know that. And since your binge-watch contract, wait, what? So a little bit just right there. The peanuts writer? No. Um, no. It just seems like that every HBO special, it's like, okay, everybody gets naked and this showed everyone.

Speaker 1:

I wonder if that all of that has to do probably with like some of the grief they had with the James Franco and the deuce.

Speaker 2:

Wow. I don't know. Oh yeah. There was like a scandal or something, right? Or like, yeah. Yeah. Now there's like a sex therapist or coach or something that helps you through the process. Yeah, we live in now. There's too many people looking in my penis. It's shrinking. We're just going to take that 60 more times. Don't worry.

Speaker 1:

It needs to be at the, uh, the beginning of the header of this episode. That less a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Well, the penis writer talk when it gets in your contract. Oh man. All right. It's like 11 minutes in. Let's see if I can remember that. To put it at the, uh, yeah, but I mean, well again, like going back to like, like game of Thrones, like, uh, you know, basically it's like, alright, we'll just show some fucking, we'll show some sex and then in a dragon every once in a while in a dead zombie and then we'll call that 65 minutes of television, we'll win Emmy's for it. Uh, I saw an interview with their creators of, um, FEMA Thrones. I don't know if you saw this. It was like a little controversial where they're like basically admitted. They didn't know what the hell they were doing. They were like, Oh yeah, we've got our production assistant, right? Like four episodes. And we really let the actors, uh, dictate what happened to their characters for a brief period. And, uh, we didn't really ask the writer too many questions and I'm like, Holy shit. Um, I, I, I think this interview actually killed their star Wars deal actually. Like they were supposed to produce a star Wars trilogy and like this thing, this thing came out and they're just like, well, I'm fucking a, they seem like jokers the whole time. Like I was just confirmed. And, and, and, and game of Thrones has nothing to do with mean girls except I think there was a, a sex writer in their contract or they just never actually, I think those liberal arts on the cutting room floor or if you get the DVD, I'm sure the special edition has those cuts on ones, right, Dave? Uh, anyway, so what's the point? Lindsey Lohan is a girl who's raised in Africa and is homeschooled and she equates the high school to a real jungle and a tribal environment. The watering hole, every clicks like a different tribe and the plastics are the most popular. That's where that Regina girl is. And her friends think it'd be funny if they pulled a prank on her by infiltrating the group and just messing with Regina. And then um, she actually becomes[inaudible] yeah, she becomes like an Uber Regina, she becomes a better Regina then Regina is and then, which actually humanizes. That's the only thing that actually humanizes Regina is character. Is that that kind of take it down. Yeah, exactly. And then of course like there's this one great scene where Tim Meadows plays like the[inaudible], the 1980s principal. There were these really intense high school movies that came out in the 80s. Like there was one called literally called the principal. And then there's also one with Morgan Freeman, which I don't remember. And there's one. Yeah. And then there's another one that's like one of the first Denzel Washington movies that got on everybody's radar for, um, what does that movie, it's like he's changing up the screw the doors so people have to stay and take their tests. And then they tried to get him in trouble for chaining up the doors at the high school. That's also lean on me. That's, Oh, is it Freeman? Oh, but there's one with Denzel. I know there is, I think there is, anyway, there was, there used to be these really intense high school movies where, you know, this badass principal would roll up and save the day and get kids back into learning. They get back into learning instead of drugs and gangs. And, uh, and that was the whole thing. So Tim metals has a moment where he grabs a baseball bat and turns on the fire sprinkler to cool down all these kids that are fighting in the hallway. And he basically implies that he's like, not going to die for this situation. Really mean and like, it's, it's, it's awesome. It's probably one of the best moments in the whole movie. I mean, the whole movies. I mean, I think that's why this is kind of a comfort food movie is for me is, is full of just

Speaker 1:

like little comedic moments. Um, a lot of them do come from Tim Meadows, uh, also during the, um, the spring fling. Um, she's giving the final speech and he keeps interrupting saying like, you know, you could just kind of move along now. You're not expected to give a speech, you know?

Speaker 2:

Hmm. The further away from high school I am, I don't really think about it anymore. So, and I don't really want him to want to watch a high school movie to, to relive any of those greatest moments of mine. So I don't, Dave, I just like disagree that it qualifies as a feel good movie. Like what about this movie makes you feel better? Like how has this, like one of those things you would go to if you're having a shitty day? Like you pop this one in and then you're

Speaker 1:

just, cause it has a lot of laughs and it's a, it's like an easy movie to watch. You know, I'm, again, it's a comfort, you know, uh, feel good. I guess my definition is a little different and uh, you know, um, I know how to feel good movies, but I guess I'm defining it as like, and it just makes me feel good. I mean, it's like I can kind of put it on. I don't have to, um, you know, not, not that I want to sound stupid, but like I know it well enough where it's just like, it's, it goes down smooth. You know?

Speaker 2:

I do know that Dave really likes this movie. He talks about it all the time and Dave actually tried to save the DVD. Dave's original DVD copy he had put on this. Um, I don't know what that is. The thing that fills in the cracks and you remember that like he had like a DVD.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah. I got somebody I think so I lended to somebody and it came back all fucked up.

Speaker 2:

So I have that original DVD that they've talking about in my closet because you replaced your mean girls and gave me your other main girls like you. You wanted to make sure that the whole world had mean girls. Just like the concept of making sure everybody gets fed on Thanksgiving. You wanted to make sure that somebody didn't go without mean girls. That's how much date Brooks movie is. He had to make sure that his buddy copy and mingles.

Speaker 1:

You know what it's, I make no apologies. It is, it is a fun movie. I mean, again, I guess, like I said, I'm saying it's a comfort food movie. It makes me feel, you know, again, I can put it on, it's easy to watch. It's fun, you know, it makes me smile and you know, yeah. This came out after I finished high school but not too far after so I could still relate a little bit to it. Um, I wasn't so far out of high school by the time this came out that I didn't totally, you know, not understand it. I, I haven't watched like a new one.

Speaker 2:

What's that?

Speaker 1:

Oh no, I was just going to say I haven't watched like a common are, I'm not a common, but a current high school movie, so I have no idea what those are like anymore.

Speaker 2:

The only high school movie I've seen recently, well it's not even high school. It's like junior high was the good one.

Speaker 1:

Oh God, I movies fucking hilarious.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's just ridiculously hilarious. Like side splitting. Like, you can't breathe, your eyes are going to water. You feel like your ribs are personally out of your chest. Cause it's, it's ridiculous. But it's really, really funny. But the thing that came before mean girls was a movie. Probably I would say probably the movie clueless.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Like it felt like the 80s was full of them and then it felt like the 90s actually we had quite a bit in the 90s. It was late nineties. That's when like cruel intentions and um, uh, varsity blues and election. I mean there was like tons of team Louise and old, late nineties.

Speaker 2:

Oh, they referenced varsity blues and men girls from,

Speaker 1:

Oh that's right. Yeah. Cause it's Regina George's favorite movie. Yeah. I'm funny. It feels, I dunno, I think this is like the, for me, like this is where high school movies, and for me, just because beyond this maybe super bad, I'll go as far as the, maybe as late as super bad. But, um, you know, this is round when like, I'm just not gonna relate to high school movies two months, sooner or too much after this. Um, it's uh, you know, every generation gets at least every generation gets at least a one or two, like pinnacle high school movies. I think the eighties in the nineties got a few more. But um,

Speaker 2:

but don't feel bad if you're out there going, I don't relate to high school movies.

Speaker 1:

No, not at all. I mean, you know, um, but like I said, I wasn't too far out of high school when this came out, so at least I could still relate to it and to some degree.

Speaker 2:

So if you're going to pair it with food, you know, watch this movie and then eat some food. What is the comfort food that goes with this feel good movie?

Speaker 1:

Well, since on Wednesdays to wear pink, I'm going to say a nice prime rib, medium rare. So he gets a nice pink, juicy middle.

Speaker 2:

Wow. So Dave wears pink, eats red meat and watches me mean girls on a Wednesday night. So what he's doing,

Speaker 1:

you know what? You fucking joke, but that sounds like a fucking awesome evening.

Speaker 2:

Uh, let's see. I was thinking cause like this movie is um, like clueless still has like an LA vibe to it. Like if you want to know what are the Los Angeles high school in the mid two thousands was like, like if you're doing a history project or something, so a sociology project, um, then you could watch them and girls are clueless and I would think, you know, if I pair up what these people are eating, I would say mean girls and some sushi, like some salmon rolls or a California roll or something would would pair up nicely with me and girls eat sushi and watch me and girls would probably be a nice, comforting afternoon.

Speaker 5:

Um,[inaudible]

Speaker 2:

if Dave didn't make me watch this for binge Watchers, I, I've only seen this movie like three times, but I imagine Dave seen it probably more than 20.

Speaker 1:

No, not that many. I mean I'm probably now I'm just defending myself. I don't know, maybe like 10 times or less. I mean more, more than three, but less than 10, I would say. I don't know. Um, I don't know. Again, it's also, I think I'm my, you know, it's one that me and my wife have watched quite a few times often cause again, it's just easy throw on, I mean we all have those movies that um, you know, just throw on and just let it run in the background or just, you know, whatever. This, this is definitely one of those movies. It's so good though.

Speaker 2:

Or a feel good movie. Recently. It's called the mountain. You can watch Jeff Goldbloom performing a bunch of little bottom MES and mental institutions made me feel great.

Speaker 1:

Although, you know what, on a serious note, um, if I'm being genuine, um, a good a feel good movie that just came out recently to Netflix, like I'm sure everybody's talking about it, but I'm fucking dolomite is my name. Have you watched that yet?

Speaker 2:

No. Like I'm, I'm very excited and anxious to see that movie because it has, um, Eddie Murphy wishlist Snipes. Um, is it keigo Michael Kia

Speaker 1:

Keegan Michael Key are Keegan Michael Key. Craig Robinson. It's got like a ton of like great, uh, great actors in it. Um,

Speaker 2:

yeah, I'm excited for the cast. Definitely has a great lineup and it's by the filmmaker. Did hustle flow

Speaker 1:

great. Um, I actually need to watch it again because I'm not that we need to get too deep in this, but the reason why I wasn't on the last episode was because like a good chunk of a cow of Northern California, I was without electricity because PG&E decided to shut us off.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. Um, the California power companies are doing something ridiculous. They think they're gonna prevent fires by taking everybody's power away when usually there's like a human err involved in most of the fires that are started in California. Right.

Speaker 1:

So a lot, a lot of ours are from Marson.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So there you go. Somebody legitimately starting a fire. They were, I was seeing that on the map. Like they were tracking whether or not an arsonist could be moving across the state lighting fires. I wouldn't be surprised. But one of the big ones, one of the biggest ones recently was like I, it was a DUI. Like this guy crashed into something cause he was drunk. So again, turning off the entire town's power so they wouldn't get the message that there was a fire breaking out. Doesn't make any sense as opposed to, uh, I don't know what the solution is. Honestly. You can't prevent people from driving drunk. You think you'd be able to, but you can't. So there's no great solution. There's really no, there's no realistic solution.

Speaker 1:

Just like, uh, what, uh, no, just saying, but, um, just real quickly getting back to Dola Meadows, my name, what I was getting to was I had to watch that on a tablet in the dark and even on a small eight inch tablet, not a big TV, it's still fucking great.

Speaker 2:

How were you keeping your devices running?

Speaker 1:

Um, because, um, I was able to go charge them while I was at different places. Like at work they had a generator, so, you know, I see. Uh, what, I mean, you know, I would like a charge my brick as I call it, the to charge other things or, you know, in charge it when I drive or, you know, find little places here and there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know, and of course just shut everything off any but not that everybody needs to know all this. But long story short, I was stolen by it is my name on a tablet and it was still great because I was able to download it before everything went out.

Speaker 2:

Oh that's another thing is like, um, tablet watching when your power shut off if you're like in a storm or something. Cause we've done that. We've had blizzards or we had a wind and rain storm that knocked our power out for like three days. This was like two weeks ago or whatever. Oh shit. But yeah, there was a podcast that I thought I wasn't going to be able to do with you. I think it might've been what the hell raiser one or one of the other ones. Cause like we had been with that power like the few days before that and it was like, Hey, that was it. Watching like a um, slash Oh the kid from workaholics who went on to do the, uh, what are those singing movies with fat Amy, what are those who have those movies? Yeah. Pitch perfect. And, um, Adam demand was his character's name and workaholic. His name is Adam. Something in real life, I think having divine, yeah, Adam divine. He was just actually recently in the, uh, righteous gemstones, uh, show. How's that show? Uh, it's interesting, I guess. Um, it's not like over Lee plotted like, well, there's a plot, but it's really about redemption. That's the, that's the only thing theme I can think of, but it's worth watching. Right. My point to bring him up was, and it took a long time to get here was when we lost power. We were watching his standup special on my iPhone, you know, you know what I mean? On Netflix was one of the things we were watching, but that's a whole thing. We could do a whole show on, like, your power's running out, what movie are you watching? You know what I mean? Before your device loses power

Speaker 1:

basically at this point is like, just whatever I had downloaded already. Right. Well, apparently, and it's been drilled well, no, I downloaded it that later. But, um, what else did I, uh, Oh, I watch a lot of big mouth on my tablet.

Speaker 2:

We did not really rip into bigger or big girls, girls. That's sequel. Oh, there is an aid for TBC equal to men. Girls.

Speaker 1:

There is, yeah. I just remembered watching. No, they had like no endorsement from anybody from the original. It was like a made for TV, like ABC family movie. These called mean girls too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. It's the second round of mean girls. That's how mean they are, they get a second move.

Speaker 6:

[inaudible].