This is "Why the long face?" in which we lift the lid on depression in a sometimes lighthearted and always non-judgemental way.
It is a conversation between two old friends, usually over a drink or two.
Paul has been a psychiatrist for 20 years and has done years of research into mood disorders and Oliver is a business consultant who has dealt with a lot of depression and its consequences in the workplace.
In this episode we look at the stigma of depression and the courage it takes to admit to yourself, and others, that you are suffering.