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New Tools for Cloud Native Developers

March 06, 2019 • Aaron Delp & Brian Gracely

0:00 | 25:25

Show: 388

Description: Brian talks with Eric Rudder (@ericrudder; Co-Founder and Executive Chairman @PulumiCorp) about the evolving tools and supply-chain for both developers and operations in a cloud-native world.

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Cloud News of the Week

Lyft announces IPO plans and explains AWS spending (including a big contract with AWS)
https://www.businessinsider.com/lyft-ipo-amazon-web-services-2019-3
A Reddit discussion on AWS limits
https://www.reddit.com/r/aws/comments/aun29l/a_new_candidate_for_the_list_of_stupidest_aws/
Wikibon - Hybrid Cloud Taxonomy
https://wikibon.com/hybrid-cloud-taxonomy/
ServerlessConf 2019 - New York (October 7-9)
https://nyc2019.serverlessconf.io/

Show Interview Links:

Pulumi - https://www.pulumi.com

Show Notes:

Topic 1 - Welcome to the show. Tell us a little bit about your background prior to Pulumi, and your motivation for creating Pulumi.

Topic 2 - Pulumi’s stated goal is “Create, deploy, and manage modern cloud apps and infrastructure”. Break that down for us, as it cuts across a lot of different job functions and (currently) different tooling being used today.

Topic 3 - Between serverless and containers, it’s been pretty well acknowledged that the developer experience has a long way to go. Lots of burden put on the developer to understand the underlying systems. How does Pulumi attempt to simply or standardize around this challenge?

Topic 4 - You obviously have a bunch of experience with developer communities from your days at Microsoft. Getting developers to standardize on things in mass is not a simple task. What are some of the ways to create movement to newer tools or technologies?

Topic 5 - What are some of your expectations about how much of the software supply-chain, from writing code to testing/securing code to deploying will have to get disrupted with new cloud-native applications (containers, serverless, etc.) and how much do you feel like is solved enough to leave in place?

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