Growth and Resilience: Cultivating Community and Faith at McCabe's Greenhouse - Adam Legge - EP 229

Nestled in the heart of Lawrenceburg, McCabe's Greenhouse is more than a garden center; it's a living lesson in the art of cultivation, both of plants and community bonds. My conversation with Adam Legge offers an authentic glimpse into the daily rhythms of nurturing seedlings and the resilience of pansies, paralleling the strength found in family and faith. As Adam walks us through the greenhouse's operations, from the importance of soil temperature to the craft of fudge-making, we uncover the shared roots between the growth of plants and the growth of relationships.

The thread of resilience weaves through our discussion as I open up about the profound impact of my daughter Evelyn's passing on our family's faith journey. In the delicate dance of strength and vulnerability, we explore how leadership within the family unit, the tenacity of marriage, and the anchoring presence of faith sustain us through life's most tempestuous seasons. The community's nurturing role parallels the patient care of our beloved plants, offering solace and support in times of sorrow, and helping us to find parallels between the seasonal ebbs and flows of nature and our own spiritual cycles.

As the episode draws to a close, we reflect on the unshakeable foundation faith provides, even when shrouded by life's storms. With heartfelt thanks to Adam and the community that stands as a lighthouse of hope, we look forward to future gatherings and the promise of unity they bring. This episode is a tribute to the legacy of loved ones, the conscious pursuit of faith, and the enduring power of community—a celebration of the ties that bind us in our shared journey of growth and discovery.

http://rocksolidfamilies.org

https://mccabesgreenhouseand floral.com

#Rocksolidfamilies,#familytherapy,#marriagecounseling,#parenting,#faithbasedcounseling,#counseling,#Strongdads,#coaching,#lifecoach,#lifecoaching,#marriagecoaching,#marriageandfamily,#control,#security,#respect,#affection,#love,#purpose,#faith,#greenhouse,#mccabes

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:06

Strong Dads wants to thank 4Speed on 50 for sponsoring today's show. If you like classic cars, great food and a taste of Americana, you have to visit 4Speed on 50's Diner, located on Route 50 in Lawrenceburg, indiana. Stop in today for a meal and an experience you won't soon forget at 4Speed on 50's Diner. All right, welcome to Strong Dads. And today we are with Mr Adam Legge. I want to say Legge is so bad. What's your name wrong I?

Speaker 1: 0:49

know, right, and we're down here at the Caves Greenhouse, all right. And so, adam, tell us what your job is here and we're going to give us a whole tour and everything of what the Caves and you are all about here.

Speaker 2: 1:02

All right, sounds good. Yeah, we've been a garden center for 45 years. Mr McCabe started it back in the 70's at his house, brought it down here in Lawrenceburg and I married his daughter, lost my job in 2008. And he said hey, why don't you just come and work for me? So I've been here since 2008. We've had five children since then and the kids are a huge part of the business. They come down here, but I am the fudge guy, the laser guy, kind of like the general handyman, so if things go wrong I make sure I get them fixed and keep everything running.

Speaker 1: 1:35

Jack of all trades. Yeah, sounds like that. All right. Well, why don't you take us around? Because I know McCabe's from many years ago and I always thought of it more of the greenhouse side. So we'll start, maybe through the greenhouse side of things. Yeah, we'll start there. That works out really good.

Speaker 2: 1:50

Yeah, so we do a lot of outdoor growing here at McCabe's. The reason for that is that you're going to be putting these plants outside anyway, so I'm going to like to toughen them up before you get them. So a lot of places grow inside only so when you buy them, they've never seen the outside, so they struggle. So we like to keep them outside as much as we can to toughen them up, and this time of year is pansies, so we are in pansies season, so that's pretty much one of the only things you can really start putting in the ground now. If you want to do your window boxes and stuff like that, it's a great idea. Pots out front, they can handle a freeze, but if they get that really, really low, you can bring them in. But this time of year, pansies are your color. It's been gloomy, but now we're getting some sunshine, so it's nice to get the pansies out there.

Speaker 1: 2:34

Okay, so you can plant pansies and they can handle a little bit of a freeze A little bit of a freeze.

Speaker 2: 2:39

If you get down in the teens or something like that, you're going to want to bring them in. But yeah, they can handle at 32, 33, we're going to be just fine, it's funny that we call them pansies. They seem pretty tough to make, yeah, and I'll bring you in the greenhouse here and I'll show you what we got going on for the spring.

Speaker 1: 2:56

Now, do you guys raise all your own plants or do you ever bring stuff in?

Speaker 2: 3:02

We grow about 95% of our bedding plants.

Speaker 2: 3:06

So, this time of year we are, if you can paint up top there, we're starting all of our hanging baskets right now, that way when May comes around we have those nice big hanging baskets. They're all in here really tight right now, but when we move them to the back and try to give as much space as we can, because that gives them the best chance of growing nice and big. And my role in all of this is just making sure that the flat filler is running properly, making sure we have soil for the filler, and then Mr McCabe does all the planting and he's got a couple of ladies who helped plant them up. And Scott McCabe is my son. He's the one who kind of says which ones are trendy, which ones did well last year, and he kind of spreadsheets it out of what we're going to grow and it's pretty good science of how everything goes.

Speaker 1: 3:52

Yeah, while we're walking in here, I always feel like I walked into Florida. Humidity is high, temperature is warm.

Speaker 2: 3:59

Customers love to come in here during this time of year because it's crappy outside, but it's always nice in here.

Speaker 1: 4:04

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 4:05

And then you can see over here where we'll get. I think you asked me what we grow in. So we'll get plants in. We start a lot of stuff in seeds. We'll start our peppers and tomatoes and stuff like that from seed. Pretty much all of our vegetables come from seed, but then, like our pruneas and geraniums and stuff like that, will come in as a cutting, like a leaf, or even a rooted cutting where there's just a couple of roots on there, and this is where we bring them up to ready to transplant them into a basket or transplant them into a five inch pot. And you can see over here they have the heated benches over here.

Speaker 2: 4:38

So the benches are always heated, so that promotes that nice root growth. So, as you can see, some of it's empty, some of it's, so we kind of have that.

Speaker 1: 4:47

So you got warm water flowing through that. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 4:51

So everyone always says oh, I have it, a nice warm window and I'm starting to seed. Well, the soil temperature is the most important part of that. Not necessarily the sun on the top. Okay, the soil temperature underneath is what you really, really want when you're starting to seed.

Speaker 1: 5:02

Yeah, all right. So you drop regular plain water down or you run fertilizer through that, or what do you do with all that?

Speaker 2: 5:10

That's the Mr McCabe question. But it's mostly clean water and then occasional fertilizer when they first start off. You don't need to really fertilize them heavy when they're starting because they're very tender root systems and everything else. Your goal is to get the ideal soil, the right temperature in the soil, and then get them growing and then, once they get established, that's when you start fertilizing and stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 5:32

Okay.

Speaker 2: 5:33

Yeah, it's way more important to get them growing than it is to fertilize right off the mat. Yeah, yeah All right, that's Mr McCabe question. He's educated.

Speaker 1: 5:40

That's his deal, so I know how many times have you guys built on and extended the shop here?

Speaker 2: 5:47

Yes, so up front we have not done a whole lot of building up here, but in the back we do have six acres, so we do have like 13 or 14 greenhouses in the back that we, as soon as this is busting out the seams, we move everything to the back that way. That way we're not heating back there when we don't need to. We start all of our production here and then we transfer everything to the back.

Speaker 1: 6:08

Okay.

Speaker 2: 6:09

And then you know, once that April hits, we bring everything back up here to start selling for retail.

Speaker 1: 6:13

So this is to keep your customers stay more in this area.

Speaker 2: 6:16

they don't go out, yeah, we don't have much shopping in the back greenhouses. Everyone wants to go check it out, but it's basically the same thing over and over and over.

Speaker 1: 6:23

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 6:24

That's the bench. But yeah, we have a. We try to keep the customers up here. We'll do a lot of outside growing here, like right outside the shop, and then we'll have some nursery stock in the back, inside the greenhouses. It's, you know, it's, there's nothing pretty back there other than tripping over hoses.

Speaker 1: 6:38

Yes, Now you guys don't go out and do landscape work per se, do you?

Speaker 2: 6:43

No, we don't do any landscape work like digging trees and stuff like that. Mr McCabe has done it in the past. Mr McCabe is 72. He still wants to go out and do it, but he's way more valuable here. And then we have, you know, the fudge. We have the engravers and stuff like that. What Fudge and gravers.

Speaker 1: 6:59

Wait, where's all that at?

Speaker 2: 7:00

We'll show you that next we do do a lot of like window boxes for businesses and stuff like that. Okay, so, it's not necessarily install and trees and shrubs, but we definitely go out of the businesses and we do the pots in front of the business or we'll go pick them up, bring them here and then take them back out to businesses. So we do do a lot of that.

Speaker 2: 7:15

Yeah, even like the hospitals and stuff like that. Where there's big concrete planters, we'll go plant those. Yeah, I'm gonna get them set up for the spring. All right, well, okay, so you mentioned a whole other thing like fudge and gifts, yeah, so let's see what's going on. I'll show you why I'm valuable here.

Speaker 1: 7:31

Now we're coming into your domain.

Speaker 2: 7:33

Yeah, well, not this part yet, but up here.

Speaker 1: 7:35

Okay.

Speaker 2: 7:36

So this is the infamous McCabe's fudge. We have the staples of you know your peanut butter chocolate, your dark chocolate, caramel sea salt, so yeah, so the fudge has been very popular for the last.

Speaker 1: 7:48

When did you guys come into that as an idea for a greenhouse to do the?

Speaker 2: 7:51

fudge. Fourteen years ago, honestly, we went to a a garden show. We, you know, have a lot of friends and you know friends that do garden centers as well, and someone said all they sold fudge at their store and we're like a greenhouse, are you crazy? Yeah, so kind of the same thing. Everyone else is like what is this store here? But they said they did really well with it and we were like we gotta look into this. Yeah, we came up with a bunch of different recipes and stuff like that and yeah, we have some staples. Like I said, 14 years it sells like crazy, yeah.

Speaker 1: 8:19

so you guys come meet, you have your own recipes. These are kind of yours.

Speaker 2: 8:23

Yeah, yeah, we have like a customer named this one for us. Ui-gui she's like what doesn't have a name, and she's like well, it looks pretty Ui-Gui.

Speaker 1: 8:33

I think that's a perfect name, yeah.

Speaker 2: 8:34

Yeah, so yeah, a lot of them are the baselines of the chocolate and the peanut butter, and then we kind of just mix them together.

Speaker 1: 8:40

I see some honey here. Do you guys do the honey, or is that right?

Speaker 2: 8:43

It's right in local. Yeah, we do honey from a local guy. He's been doing it for a couple years now.

Speaker 1: 8:48

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 8:49

And then we have the laser up here, like this whole corner up here is kind of all the products.

Speaker 1: 8:54

So these are all things that you guys have engraved.

Speaker 2: 8:57

Yes, these are samples. And then there's, you know, we do cups, we do all kinds of things, and the lasers running right now and you can see these are actually doing memorial tokens. So if I can roll something like that so to pass it out like the a card or something like that, it'll have a saying on the front and the back it'll say like in loving memory of whoever it's for something like that. So we do event tokens and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1: 9:21

So this thing pretty much runs non-stop.

Speaker 2: 9:24

It runs non-stop and we have another one in the back.

Speaker 1: 9:26

Oh, wow, okay, you got a lot going on here, yeah.

Speaker 2: 9:31

So, like I said, my wife is the expert on this. If something needs to look pretty, she handles that. I'm more of the nuts and the bolts, the power, the speed and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1: 9:40

At this point in time, what's the biggest part of your business? Is it the plants or is it the gifts?

Speaker 2: 9:46

Yeah, well, we so my wife and I run inside of here. So it's one of those things we would love to say that the gift shop is the best. Yeah, that made. June is where you know the greenhouse really supports everything. Gotcha and we're blessed to have, like the floor apartment, for example, is that we have always have something going on with them. You know birthdays and celebrations and stuff like that, yeah, but we're always busy. But like the greenhouse kind of supports all of that, we're like indoor plants and stuff like that.

Speaker 2: 10:15

So an indoor plants are becoming extremely popular on the last year for years, especially since everyone's home for COVID. Oh yeah, house plants really exploded and the interest in it and stuff like that.

Speaker 1: 10:24

So we take a quick glance at that.

Speaker 2: 10:26

Yeah, let's take a look at that.

Speaker 1: 10:27

I don't remember seeing anything like that.

Speaker 2: 10:37

Oh, wow, okay so this is kind of a greenhouse, but it's yeah, this is yeah, so it's a greenhouse, but we also use it, as you know, selling our, you know our pottery and stuff like that as well. But we said the house plants have just completely taken off beyond what we ever would have thought it would do. Yeah, and we kind of remodeled this whole area over the last couple years, so it still has the greenhouse roof, but it also has a nice homey feel to it too.

Speaker 1: 11:00

Yeah, it's a combination like gift shop slash greenhouse, all the wind chimes.

Speaker 2: 11:08

Yeah, we do a lot of sympathy stuff and yeah.

Speaker 1: 11:12

Yeah, wow, pretty good, lots of stuff going on.

Speaker 2: 11:14

Lots of stuff, yeah.

Speaker 1: 11:15

so now I know why you're kind of just running crazy all the time.

Speaker 2: 11:18

All the time, all the time, all the time.

Speaker 1: 11:19

All right. Well, hey you got a few minutes. You want to sit down.

Speaker 2: 11:23

Have a little talk, yeah.

Speaker 1: 11:25

All right, let's do it. Strong Dads wants to thank Quality Auto Mart and Service for being a proud sponsor of the Strong Dads podcast, started in 1985 and going strong for all these years. Recently, quality Auto Mart has transitioned from owners of Mark and Nancy Reptie to longtime employee Fred and Lorraine Venus. For all your automotive needs and golf cart needs, check out Quality Auto Mart, located across from Indian Lakes on Highway 46 outside of Batesville, indiana. Adam, what's up?

Speaker 2: 12:27

man.

Speaker 1: 12:27

Thanks for inviting me in and giving me a chance to do some Strong Dads work here, and so you know that the deal with Strong Dads is that we kind of have a mission to go out and shake the tree, to grab men and say we need you, we need you. When we say strong man, we're more than just physical strength. We're talking about the strength of the family, strength of leading the family, what God has to do with that. So I know that you are a man of God, not a perfect man. Right, absolutely not. You can't say this. So what were you saying about Beth before?

Speaker 2: 13:04

we started. She is amazing.

Speaker 1: 13:07

Beth, you're the best wife in the whole wide world, but we do appreciate you and what you're doing here. You said before you guys have five kids and you're running this business right. Tell me, what does God have to do with all of this? Both McCabe's greenhouse, you guys in your house, the marriage how do you do all this?

Speaker 2: 13:32

Yeah, I mean because we're about to go into the fight camp here pretty soon too. So we've been focusing on how God is playing a part in everything that we do. It's just one of those things where when we decide to put the whole world first, like we'll screw up, but if we put Jesus in the center of it, it seems to flow better because our heart's in the right place. And then you get busy running around and doing all kinds of crazy stuff with the business, with the kids, and we'll start screaming and yelling at each other. What are we doing here? Let's try to put Him into focus and, like I said, with camp coming up, it's been a very it's an awesome experience of like we've been reading the Bible more as a family.

Speaker 2: 14:11

With Lent coming up, we were in the middle of Lent as well, too, with the little ones who are still in St Lawrence. So it's one of those things where we talk about our faith all the time and you get to the point where you're like why haven't we been doing this all the time? Why are we now really digging in? And when we know how good it is right now, like why don't we do that all the time? So it's been a nice little refresher of like you know he's amazing and like we definitely need to put him first all the time. So it's that stubbornness of like why don't we do this all the time? Like why are we waiting 40 days of Lent? Or like coming up on a big event, like let's keep this all the time.

Speaker 1: 14:45

Let's keep it. Well, I hear that completely and I understand it and I ask the same question. But I think faith, you know, is a lot like planting plants. There are seasons in faith, right. So you can't be in a growing season all the time. Soil has to re-nurture itself and the plants need a break, right. So I think that's what happens a lot of times we can be really high in our faith and everything seems to go great and then we kind of crash and burn. But that's the crash and burn that makes us realize, oh, I need to get back in and be more intentional and set doubling back down to the next season, right, the next season. So, yeah, like it's frustrating at times, but I think it keeps us hungry.

Speaker 2: 15:30

Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, I mean, when we first started our faith journey about 10 years ago, right after our daughter passed away, it was one of those deals where we were just kind of coasting along and it got to the point where we're just like we can't coast, like this doesn't, coasting doesn't work. This is one of those things where we really dug in and like that's the only thing. I mean, it's not saved our marriage Our marriage was never, but it was one of those things that, like it got us closer together as a family and then, like, putting him at the center, really focused everything and then just talked about plants.

Speaker 2: 16:02

We're just going to use the same analogy of like the people that were in our lives were planting seeds for us of that faith and, like I said, we had a background of faith that was like we got in a straight up coasting mode for five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 years, whatever it was, and those seeds that keep people, people get planting in our lives. And we had people show up at our house, like basically lived with us. They would show up in the morning and they would leave in the evening time right after she passed away for like that two or three weeks and it was just like they were like okay, like they were nurturing that same, that same baby plant we have in there. It was just like they were. They were there constantly, like making sure, reminding us of who you know who our father is. Honestly.

Speaker 1: 16:44

Just for the sake of any of our new guys that are listening and watching. We did an entire show on the passing of your daughter and let's give her a little bit of credit and everything to tell us a little bit about her story, her name, just a little bit so guys can go back and listen to that.

Speaker 2: 17:02

Sure, yeah, her name was Evelyn. She was our second child, sweetest little thing ever. She was just starting to crawl, starting to walk. She was in the middle of all of that. She developed a very rare disease that we were in Children's Hospital five days and she was gone. So it's one of those deals where we thought we had all. We were making plans to remodel our house, we were making all these plans. We had a family of four, we were planning on going to five. Let's build this house, let's remodel this house. We had all kinds of different things going on.

Speaker 2: 17:35

When she passed away, it was just the three of us again, it was me, my wife and our oldest daughter. It was just like what, like what, just like our whole world was just completely wrecked. So it was one of those things where I've talked on the other show of how dark my thoughts went and like how difficult it was for me to get through that. I think not having faith was the biggest part of that. And then it took a while for me to get faith again because I was so hurt and so just completely lost in the whole situation. So but now we're 10 years out and I believe that one. I believe her passing got me a relationship with Christ and now that anytime in Deere-Woe County it seems like that if someone we know who loses a child like they come to us and we've been able to help walk them through some of those things and it really it really sucks to do that.

Speaker 1: 18:29

It's kind of like living it all over again.

Speaker 2: 18:31

It's like living it all over again, but at the same time, like we know where we were and where we are now, that like we have to share that with someone of, like you know, of that faith.

Speaker 1: 18:41

She lives on right? Oh yeah, for sure. Her spirit lives on, and I think that's part of the. We're all building legacies here, and how could, how could little Evelyn have a legacy like she has with her? Her legacy is pretty powerful right now. Oh yeah, for sure. She's already spoken in other people's lives. I'll include the link to that episode so that anybody who would be interested sorry, you're all right.

Speaker 2: 19:04

That's the notification to pick up our son from school, so we make sure we bring him back here too.

Speaker 1: 19:09

So you talked about. There have been people who plant seeds, and I think part of our job is man, especially once we've recognized the absolute importance of faith. You know, it could have been traditional walking in faith, it could have just been what we did, but all of a sudden we kind of internalize it and go, wow, this is significant. And now I have to, I have to be intentional about the Great Commission right.

Speaker 1: 19:34

To go out and basically spread the word right. Can you think of people who spread those seeds in you? Anybody in particular that said you know you need to really hear this or you can-.

Speaker 2: 19:44

Yeah, I mean my best friend Rocky. He was the guy that showed up at the house and he was the guy that invited me to that very first man camp that they had across roads and it was just one of those things where he was not gonna let me have no for an answer, because he knew how much I needed it and how much like that I was. You know, I was completely broken, so he was just trying to shine lights in different parts of my life. So, yeah, he was the number one person. And then we have another friend.

Speaker 2: 20:08

Her name's Angie Myers and her daughter is my wife's best friend and she just prayed for us and she'd come over to the house and pray for us and she wrote songs, she sang in her funeral and just, she was just one of those lights that was constant the whole time that we were going through everything that she would. We would say, oh, we're getting signs of this. She's like that's the Holy Spirit. That is like showing up and then the Holy Spirit's been with you this whole time. It's just that you're not recognizing it and it was just one of those things where she was communicating to us what was going on and it was so powerful, so special and everything else.

Speaker 1: 20:43

Yeah, that's such a great point, I think. Sometimes we think that all of a sudden there's an abracadabra and the Holy Spirit shows up. It's like this is your heart and heart. Your eyes were closed and your ears were closed, oh yeah for sure, she was always there, oh, always there, and all of a sudden you have you soften up and went oh my gosh. And I think that guys need to hear that, like it's not the Holy Spirit who hasn't shown up, it's you haven't opened up.

Speaker 1: 21:10

Yeah, for sure, yeah, and that's tough to do. A lot of guys are like, yeah, well, I've heard all that stuff before, you know, but it never really hit me. It's like, well, no, you haven't allowed it, you got it, you got it. You have to set back and invited it?

Speaker 2: 21:26

Oh for sure. Yeah, we talk about like through Fight Camp coming up one of the songs we're singing. Part of the song is he's our firm foundation. This is one of those things where his foundation is not going to move. It's rock solid. But then we pile all that crap on top of it and we lose sight of where that foundation is and like when we hit rock bottom, like that's the rock that we hit is him. It was just one of those things that we just have to dig through all of our crap and realize that he was there, he was the foundation the whole entire time. It's just that we're piling all of the work I always call it the world Like we're just cluttering everything up, and then when we hit that rock bottom, like 10 years ago, I mean like I would have tried anything, just to like to feel something or to not feel something, and then, like I said, it was years later, almost just like he's that foundation. That was there the whole time.

Speaker 1: 22:12

I just didn't know it.

Speaker 2: 22:13

Didn't had no idea. And then, like, looking back, it's like well, that was clearly one of my stuff.

Speaker 1: 22:17

Yeah, we never stopped looking for ways to feel better. Right, so we were. We'll seek out the alcohol, drugs, the sex, the hobbies, the interest, like, oh, if I do this, you know. And then our self righteous pride comes in there to say I got it you know I figured this out and it always comes back to knock you back down.

Speaker 2: 22:38

Oh yeah, At some point in time where you're gonna like humble yourself or not?

Speaker 1: 22:42

Yeah for sure.

Speaker 2: 22:43

I mean just when you think that, well, I mean I like, I said I I would. I drank a few times, like after my daughter passed away, and like I instantly knew that that was not the right answer. But I was just like, well, I feel something right, but at the same time, just like I knew instantly, I was like this is dumb, I feel.

Speaker 1: 22:56

10 times worse every time I did it.

Speaker 2: 22:58

But yeah, so it was one of those things. It was like self-realization. That was a fast self-realization, but like everything else, like you know, just like what you said, it was like you replace it with something like you know.

Speaker 1: 23:06

So that was that was good, good stuff, all right. So, man, you got all this going on at the Greenhouse with your family. I also know you're involved in the fight and the fight camp. What are some words that you want to get out to young men Any man, for that matter, but a guy out there who's who's kind of the Adam of 12, 13, 14 years ago, before you had your world rock? What's the message you'd like to get out to?

Speaker 2: 23:35

him. I mean, I think, I think it's honestly is building friendships with men, just because we're getting to the point where we're noticing, through the fight, is that so many guys are loners, that like they think they can do everything on their own and which, you know, 25 years old, I mean like you're the strongest person, nothing can happen. You're that Superman in your own life. But to the point where, though, like, if something does, bad does happen, is that you're on your own, like you know, like you're just like, oh crap, like now, what do I do? I'm at it's either a mentor or if it's just a good friend and like building in the relationships we're finding guys that playing video games and like watching, you know, pornography is a huge thing, is that you know guys are getting isolated with that and they're having difficult making real relationships with just anybody, male or female, just like male friendships or, like you know, dating and all that kind of stuff. But what we're finding guys are struggling to make male connections and like they feel like they're outcast, and so it's one of those things where like just find that guy you trust and like build into him and hopefully develop something other than sports, or you know a drinking buddy or something like that.

Speaker 2: 24:38

I know that sounds difficult for a 25 year old like you said, feels like you can conquer the world. Everything's probably going really smooth for them for a very long time. They have a new job, they got new growth. Whatever it is is that we have those boyish tendencies to, like, you know, do what's good in the right now.

Speaker 2: 24:52

But it's one of those deals where I would highly recommend just reflecting on everything you got going on who are the people you're going to go to if crap hits the fan. Like, who are those people? And if there's nobody, then like you need to really start, you know, trying to find someone who can be there and like kind of give your crap to them. So and then, like you know, that's that's what we're noticing through the fight is that guys are just isolating themselves and then we just think that they need to get in a relationship with men I mean Christ like men would be the ideal thing, but at the same time, like it doesn't have to be that. I mean just someone they can trust and someone they can do life with, and you know, when things go rough, that they have someone to turn to.

Speaker 1: 25:35

Yeah, so start to build your own little drive, your own pack. For sure it's good stuff. Well, adam, I want to thank you for your time again. I want to thank for the work, also just being such a strong community supporter. We got to build our family and get them to build our community. We're not doing that. You know those are failed steps right off the bat. We got to get those things right.

Speaker 2: 25:55

So want to thank you.

Speaker 1: 25:56

Thanks, enjoy your weekend with the guys. I told you earlier I'm not going to make it this year, but a regroup for next year. Hopefully I'll have some of my boys. That's great. Yeah, thanks a lot. See you, yep, see you. Casey's is a premier garden center and gift shop located in largeburg, indiana. Casey's offers a wide selection of plants, landscaping materials, home and garden decor and gifts for every occasion. Casey's is committed to providing exceptional service, a unique shopping experience and value to every customer. Stop in and see what makes Casey so unique, located at 21-481 State Line Road, larnsburg, indiana, or call 812-537-3800. Let Casey's help you add beauty to your home.