EPisodes: Teaching and Learning in the Digital Age

2: Use it like you own it - how knowing the 'why' of educational technology is a priority.

September 04, 2019 Season 1 Episode 2
EPisodes: Teaching and Learning in the Digital Age
2: Use it like you own it - how knowing the 'why' of educational technology is a priority.
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EPisodes: Teaching and Learning in the Digital Age
2: Use it like you own it - how knowing the 'why' of educational technology is a priority.
Sep 04, 2019 Season 1 Episode 2
Jimmy Bowens and Craig Kemp

Jimmy Bowens, Global Head of English at Education Perfect, chats to renowned educational leader and EdTech Consultant at Ignite EdTech, Craig Kemp. They explore social media as a way for teachers to connect and learn and discuss the implications of technology for students today.

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Jimmy Bowens, Global Head of English at Education Perfect, chats to renowned educational leader and EdTech Consultant at Ignite EdTech, Craig Kemp. They explore social media as a way for teachers to connect and learn and discuss the implications of technology for students today.

Speaker 1:
0:03
[inaudible].
Speaker 2:
0:04
Welcome to the episodes podcast where we explore the world of education, learning technology and all the minutia of human knowledge acquisition. My name is Jimmy Bowen's and I will be your host for today's show. I'm the head of global English here at education. Perfect. And today I have the pleasure to be chatting with Craig Kemp. Craig is based in Singapore. He's a keynote speaker, workshop host and global education consultant. He works with departments, ministries, school leadership, school communities and educators to understand, design and implement digital learning solutions and transformations so that teaching practice can be improved and student learning outcomes can be maximized.
Speaker 2:
0:49
Boom, we're live. Craig, welcome to the podcast. Thank you. Excited to be here. We're here today because we want to talk about your position within the world of education and what you represent and we met recently in Sydney at the education project conference and I was so interested with many things you said in that talk, but I'd love to get a little bit more detailed today. So first of all, I want to know how you found your way in education. What was the catalyst in the beginning? What, what made you want to be an educator?
Speaker 3:
1:23
Yeah, absolutely. Um, but really my education journey started, uh, in my Stephen form year at, in high school and Nelson Neyland College. And I was sort of thinking, what do I do? What am I going to do with my life? I want to go and study, uh, more importantly, I want to get potty and have fun with my friends and I go do that. I really had no idea, genuinely no idea. Um, and so really my inspiration came from my mom who was a volunteer for a lot of [inaudible] and the local primary school. She, uh, was the teaching assistant then a actually light it and who, correct. Yeah. After being a stay at home mom and doing an amazing job raising myself and my brother, um, decided that she'd retrained as a teacher. So, um, when I was in first form, she decided that she would, uh, retrain and she became a teacher.
Speaker 3:
2:16
So that sort of gave me inspiration, um, to get into the, into education. Um, so that's what I chose. I went away to Christchurch, college of Education, studied there. Um, and then sort of found a passion area within the technology scheme. My Dad was the it manager Nelson Hospital. So, um, really the combination of my mom being an educator and just this amazingly, um, amazing person, a people person that build rapport really easily with anyone. And then my dad, the tick side of things just love technology and supporting people with technology. And I sort of brought those both together and, and it's sort of where the patient came from.
Speaker 2:
2:54
That's really interesting. It's, it's fascinating that you really are a product of both your parents in terms of your path at the moment and mix. Yeah. That they must be quite pleased that there's a 50, 50 represented representation there. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so when you were, when you were starting out, I have such vivid memories of um, my air, my first training year as a teacher in Ireland and I think, um, many, many people can relate to how daunting it is. And um, and then the journey you go on as a, as a teacher and the ups and downs. But I'm always keen to, to hear, uh, teacher's answers to this question. And that is what do you wish you had known when you started out as a teacher? Um, having been through three years of experience now.
Speaker 3:
3:47
Yeah. I, um, it's a good question and I, that's something I recently wrote a blog post about thinking about new teachers or starting the new academic year. Um, and I think that for me it comes down to probably five things that I can think of are the six things. I think off the top of my head, the first thing being, um, a connected educator. I love Twitter, Twitter for professional learning. Um, I can learn at my own pace anytime, anywhere anyhow, and I can do it on the train or on the bus, but it's personalized for me. So Twitter for me, uh, is the big, the big thing that I would hope that teachers starting out would get into. Uh, they can ask any questions and get the information they need. I think, um, the second thing is that as a teacher, we all know this, but it's really easy to get burnt out.
Speaker 3:
4:32
And we see it all over the world and our jobs. But pace yourself and look after yourself. Put yourself as number one. Um, teachers aren't very good at doing that. So I think looking after yourself is really important. Um, I think the other thing is sort of building a rapport is critical. So making sure that, uh, my role on day one was not to leave school until I knew every kid's name. And I think that's really important to building a rapport with your kids, being yourself, but also getting your parents on board straight away and making sure that you're building a rapport with them as well. And that it's okay to let down that guard, um, to be a real human being. That's, that's something as teachers, I think we, we try and put up this folks wore a lot of the time. And I think probably the last major thing is that that failure is okay.
Speaker 3:
5:19
That's okay to make mistakes. I think when I went to teach Australian College, I, I learnt the curriculum, I learned how to teach the curriculum. Uh, one of the things I didn't teach and that I learned from doing what was that you're gonna make mistakes and it's okay to make mistakes. Um, and I think more important, it's okay to take risks and not to be scared of taking risks of stepping outside of their comfort zone and trying new things is really important. And, um, and using your own personality to make sure that you teach the ways that you want to teach, um, not the way that, that you, you are supposed to attention and quotation marks.
Speaker 2:
5:53
Yeah. That's awesome. I think in general, education is a, an arena of judgment. Often we're, we feel like we're being measured. Um, students feel like they're being measured and judged and it's, it's trying to operate, um, without letting that dictate all of your decisions. And yes, it is, it is difficult, especially starting out, um, to, to do that. When you think back, um, on your teaching career, do you feel you've got any particular personality traits or behavior traits which helped you progress and overcome some of these barriers that you now know exist for most of us?
Speaker 3:
6:33
Um, yeah, I think there's, for me it's probably just being positive. Um, and I as sort of a person that tries to be positive with everything, no matter how frustrating or negative or whatever the situation is. I, my aim is taught to always be an optimist. Think of things that could go well, be positive, give things a go. Um, and I think the other thing really is that I am a believer in trusting people, um, that you put in a situation that if I trust people, people will trust me. Um, and, and then that allows me to sort of go above and beyond the, so I guess it comes down to being positive and, and
Speaker 2:
7:11
trust. Yeah, I completely agree. Especially not only with colleagues but with students. Like when you, you know, there was, um, I had a person who would come in and monitor me and my teacher training. And one of the things that, um, I was advised about from other teachers in that particular school was, um, this kind of fake it till you make it mentality. And I never, I never agreed or felt good about that. And I thought to myself that the students they know, like they always know and you know, making mistakes as teachers is natural as you said. But one thing I learned about this particular issue about your, your demeanor is that you can't fake it with students. They just, they, they know. And I think that, um, being that what you said about being positive is so powerful, even in a negative situation with students if you're positive, some of them that is so much more powerful than trying to appear really professional. That's a, it's quite, um, quite a profound thing I think is just being real and hearts very, very active, really hard. Many, many teachers find this profession overwhelming. I'm sure some of our listeners who are teachers are at this very moment feeling the pressure of, of this time of year exam season is upon us. Why do you think some people feel like they have to pack it in and there's too much to handle? Thinking about the modern teaching?
Speaker 3:
8:43
Yeah, I uh, yeah. Recently this time last year, I was in London actually at, uh, speaking at a summit about, um, about the sped teacher stress and why do we have so many good people leaving the job? Um, and I did a big survey with much what a community hit about 3000 responses and the things that came up with that we underpaid and we worked too hard. Uh, it's as simple as that. I think teachers are busy. We all know that. Um, and I always say to people, um, that say to me, Oh, you got it so easy. You work nine til three. Um, I'd given up fighting it. Now I just like do great job. I love it. Um, and shuts down that conversation. But I always say to people that, um, I'd love for us to do a job swap. You come and be in a room with 30 kids all day, every day, getting paid a pretty rubbish pay scheme, if I'm honest, globally.
Speaker 3:
9:42
Um, and then answering to parents who want to pick every fault and everything you do and then going home and then continuing to work. And Mark Gray. Uh, it's one of the most stressful jobs in the world. And it's a, I think one of the how we've read is one of the most rewarding jobs in the world as well. And the issue for teachers is that we put in so much heart and soul into a jaws we teach because we want to make a difference and we love what we do. Um, if you're a teacher and you're in it for the money, you're in the wrong career. So, um, and I think teachers need to get better at looking after. Number one. Uh, teachers need to get better at looking after themselves and communities and our communities need to get better at learning how to treat teachers like professionals.
Speaker 3:
10:26
Um, because I see, not illnesses, not even just being biased, but I see the people that I work with all day, every day, and I get to travel all around the world now. People, some of them as talented people I've ever met and any proficient a and pile by pile. I think probably the hardest working profession that I've ever seen as well. Um, I think for teachers, we just need to look after ourselves, look out for each other, um, and sort of take one thing at a time and don't get too stressed out when things go wrong. Um, we just just move on on and carry on with it. And I think we need a lot of help from our communities to do that too.
Speaker 2:
11:00
We do. It seems as if there's a PR crisis with them, with the teaching profession. So that, that brings me on to some of the things that you're doing. I mean, you have quite an impressive resume in terms of your ICT qualifications. I think that's the right term. It might not be. That's, I think that sounds like an old fashioned term, say ICT now, but you're a certified Google innovator, a common sense educator, seesaw ambassador, and an apple teacher. You've done it all. You've got, you just went, all right, I'm going to do all of these so that I don't have to worry if I did the right one.
Speaker 3:
11:37
Well I've, um, yeah, I think I've always loved learning that sort of why, what drew drew me in, I guess, to, to the career and the law. In the end it was, I loved to learn new things and I love, um, being in the know, I guess from very early in my career, I knew, knew that I love to learn and I knew I wanted to push that out to my students too. And if I speak to them to continue learning and as I go into a coaching role, um, within my school, if I speak to my staff to continue learning, then I had to also show that same level of passion for wanting to learn. So for me, the certificate really means nothing. It's really context specific. So, um, I guess to single one out over another doesn't really work because every context is different.
Speaker 3:
12:25
So I went through my Google certification level one and level two really recently because my school was moving to be, uh, become a Google school or g-suite school. And I went through the EFL teacher certification because I was doing it with our whole faculty. We wanted to upskill our whole faculty to the point where everyone had this basic level of expectation. Um, I think seesaw we wrote out seesaw, k through five, all of our teachers and all of our kids for, um, portfolios and sharing of learning home. So we went through that certification. So it really fit in with what, um, I think we were doing at the time. So the Google certifications, just a good example of, of useful and thought out set of learning process because it's pedagogy based and it's useful for teachers to implement immediately as well. Um, I don't like going through certifications just for the sake of doing it. And I want, I like to know there's an end game that I'm actually gonna use this stuff. I'm not going to a PD day just because I get the day off. I'm going there because I want to implement a change or make a change.
Speaker 2:
13:30
Yeah. So it sounds like it, it's a responsive, uh, approach. It was strategic. It wasn't, it wasn't, yeah, as you said, not just get this certification from my resume. It was in response to a need. And that leads me to the next question about it. You know, I, I'm looking at the question now and thinking about what you've said and how you've answered that question going. This is the exact thinking that gets people into trouble probably is cause I was going to ask you, what, if you had to choose one at edgy tech qualification or certification for teachers to pursue this year, what would it be and why? But inherently in that question, there's some thinking that needs to be, uh, unpacked
Speaker 3:
14:11
and I think it's, um, 100%. I think it should be context specific. What do you need in your school? And I think it always comes back to why, why would you do it? How's it gonna add value? Um, what's it gonna Impact? So I think for me, if, depending on what sort of system I was in, most schools are either going towards sort of a Google YSC sort of environment, being a g suite school or being a Microsoft school. And that's sort of the two environments they go and devices they use. Uh, doesn't matter. A lot of schools using apple, Dell Tech, whatever, not important. Google or Microsoft, both environments provide really strong pedagogical knowledge, um, training. Uh, and that's what I like about them. So that, that sort of thing that teachers can implement immediately, that's context specific is critical. And, and that's a lot of the work I do now with schools is looking at strategy and supporting them develop. What do they need to do? And developing a professional learning plan for their faculty. It's all well and good investing in tools, but what's most important is investing in professional learning. Um, and that's sort of the message that I try and get across.
Speaker 2:
15:20
Yeah, I love that. It's so, it's, it's incredibly strategic. So the context and understanding the context, understanding the needs and as much detail as possible, there's going to be, it's going to be what helps people decide on the resources that they want to pursue. Wonderful. Now you're very prolific on social media as you mentioned. Um, but Twitter, before I, I'm, I'm really starting this journey this year. I've, I've opened up a Twitter as professional Twitter account and I'm, I'm trying my best. I really, I've been inspired by, by people like yourself and I've, um, launched into the world of Linkedin, which is slightly smaller than Twitter. I think it, um, it, it has been enjoyable. Um, can you talk a little bit about, um, Hashtag what is school and um, your, your experience with Twitter and a little bit more detail how it came about and because I think that's a big epic, uh, point in your career.
Speaker 3:
16:19
Yeah, definitely. And that's uh, it's been a game changer for me for sure. Um, I sort of describe my journey with social media and being a connected educator as going from lone wolf to hunting with the pack and um, yeah, that a colleague of mine in New Zealand said to me, it's really what it is. It's, um, eight, nine, 10 years ago now, I sort of went to a conference in Deneden meet a couple of ladies, um, who said to me, you need to get connected. You need to get connected. We're sharing all sorts of things on Twitter. And I thought, Twitter, what a load of rubbish. I have no idea what that is. The Kardashians and food and they all started wrong. I missed out on two or three good years of using Twitter for learning because I just didn't know how to use it.
Speaker 3:
17:08
I didn't know my why I and understand that it could really add value to me as a learner, as an educator. Um, so, so that sort of got into it about seven, eight years ago, properly using it for my own learning. And then I grew my professional learning network to what is now over 40,000 educators and people from all over the world, um, which is just an amazing learning opportunity and environment. Um, so from there I, I s I cofounded a Twitter chat called what is school with a friend called Laura Hill from the u s um, we'd never met, we'd sort of chatted about what a Twitter check could be that could support everyone, that it wasn't just exclusive to a subject or a specific location. You don't want it a time zone and it could bring people together. So we started what is go on every week, every Friday.
Speaker 3:
17:57
Oh 7:00 AM Singapore time, 9:00 AM Australian eastern standard time. I live in a, in uh, in New Zealand. We every Friday morning we run this Chet and it's Thursday evening in the u s that UK. Um, and it provides people the opportunity to come in and talk about different topics every week. Wait and wait. I bring in different moderators with me every week. If I'm away, I have other people running for the, just as the opportunity for people to come and share it. And every week we have, um, anywhere from 30 to 80 people coming and talking live about the topic using the Hashtag. And for me the Hashtag is just a really simple search to know if I want to find something. I use hashtags to search for things and I think teachers get, get bogged down with social media about follows and followers. And when you've got 10 followers or 10,000 followers, it makes no difference. The number of my followers makes no difference to me and I don't really even sync about them that way. Um, use it like you own it as sort of what I say to people, take advantage of it, grow a professional learning network, um, and crowdsource learning. That's the way I learn by, by sharing and connecting with others.
Speaker 2:
19:12
It's very refreshing to hear that. Um, especially about the, the metrics not being the focus and um, and use it like you own it. I love that because it immediately made me think about when my father was trying to teach me how to drive. And the only thing I remember about that experience other than finding it really difficult was he said, um, you control the car. The car doesn't control you.
Speaker 3:
19:38
Yay.
Speaker 2:
19:38
And I think, uh, that resonates with me in terms of social media and probably how young people perceive it as well. It's a good message. Now I have to ask, and this sound, I'm going to sound so ancient and out of the loop here, but can I just clarify something and I hope listeners out there, they're gonna empathize with me here. I am just learning Twitter. So if people wanted to get involved with Hashtag what does school do? They type in that Hashtag and press search and they'll find these conversations.
Speaker 3:
20:08
Is that how [inaudible] yeah. Yeah. So, um, there's all sorts of information out there about Twitter chats and what time's was there on and, and, and if you go to my blog, Mr. Kim pnz.com and type in Twitter chats, uh, I've got a whole bunch of information about what they are, how they work and uh, because they are daunting and confusing to start was, but if you come on at that time, use the Hashtag what score and search for it. Okay. If you're on the at Twitter app, you search on the latest and it will just continue the stream. You use the Hashtag and if everyone will be able to see and follow that, I use a tool called tweet dick and that allows me to see a multiple streams of hashtags at any one time that's alive feed. So I can follow along with multiple, multiple portions and it's free to use as well.
Speaker 2:
20:52
Oh, that's cool. Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to find it and take parts. Yeah. I'm determined to become the Twitter. It's a competent user of, of the competent owner of my social media. Um, so what lessons and tips and advice speaking about that could you give for educators to use social media effectively? Considering how, you know, the one thing we will constantly hear from teachers and it's very valid is that they're short on time, but it seems to me from listening to you speak and, and reading through some of your ideas and advice that
Speaker 3:
21:32
okay
Speaker 2:
21:33
th this is a perfect way to, to use time, efficiently and effectively to learn. So what kinds of things would you, would you advise the novice users out there?
Speaker 3:
21:42
[inaudible] yeah, I think I'm start small baby steps are okay. A stats, you've got to start somewhere, start with zero followers and is built it up and you connect with people. There'll be people in your building start by connecting with them. Um, getting your leadership team on board, putting time to meetings where your, your school has a Hashtag and you start sharing, learning with your Hashtag, making sure that when you go to conferences you use those conference hashtags cause that's a big part of learning now that you don't have to physically be in a room with people. You can actually use those to crowd source information. But that small as I cast that small connect with people, I think that the, another thing is consume content. That's what it's all about. But don't forget to create content. You can look for as long as you want but if you look around the too long it gets a little bit creepy.
Speaker 3:
22:33
So jump in and people don't mind that people are out here to help. Twitter I think gets a bad name for being negatives. But you know what, the educators on Twitter and nothing but positive, um, people know that there are people coming on all the time and people like myself are happy to share and connect you with other people and help share reasons why we use it and how we we get involved with it. Um, and I think the other thing is for me it's Twitter. For you it might be Linkedin, Facebook, whatever it is, choose the social media that's right for you. Um, I don't work for Twitter, I just love the love Twitter. Right? So I mean I share that message because it's right for me, but a lot of people I work with in school so I don't have time for another thing. I use Facebook wise. Great. Jump on Facebook, use groups, jump in with communities in Facebook and get in there. Cause there are groups in Facebook or linkedin that just have great content here all the time, years. What, you know,
Speaker 2:
23:33
I've um, I've been a part of some of those groups on Facebook and I have really enjoyed watching how they flourish with the collaboration. It's, it's, it's amazing when you see teachers, um, realizing how much they benefit from these groups and then they start to participate more actively and then it just becomes a richer and richer experience for everybody. And it really is about the teachers empowering and enriching themselves. You know, what we're talking about here is teachers learning from each other and, and giving to each other. We're not w w we usually talk about the teaching profession, um, around topics that are student centric. But what I'm finding really refreshing about what you're doing is it's very teacher centric because you realize that the wellbeing of the teachers and the efficiency of the teachers is naturally going to benefit the students. Absolutely. Um, now as a consultant to speaker on these topics you have had the exposure you've had exposure to, to school wide systems, you've been to a lot of schools I presume, and you, you've experienced how they operate and how they work and the strategies they try to implement. Is there, is there any memorable stories you could share with us about some big things you've learned through that experience of visiting school?
Speaker 3:
24:51
Uh, I think, uh, it's been a really big journey for me. I sort of decided to go leave the school and go full time consulting about 12 months ago and I sort of left my school here in Singapore in June. Um, and it was a big decision to make because I've never been out of a school before and I never wanted to, but I realized the impact I could have by supporting multiple schools and, and being involved in the journeys of multiple schools. So that journey has been been really excited. I wanted to make a bigger impact. I wanted to, to help schools have the same successes that myself and my team had done here at Stanford and Singapore. Um, and, and I guess now I get to work with so many schools leading professional learning, developing digital strategy. Um, and I think one of the biggest mistakes that I see schools making is throwing technology into classrooms without developing a plan, without thinking about professional learning in particular and how to support their teachers because teachers need time to play and explore and learn.
Speaker 3:
25:49
I think that's a huge part of the strategy is give teachers time, let them play. Let people like myself help schools do that. You don't have to have in house expertise in everything. And I think just one success story that comes to the top of my mind is a, a school that I'm working group of schools actually I'm working with right now in Malaysia who are rolling out a one to one device program, um, across all three of their schools, um, geographical locations. And I'm supporting them with the strategy and implementation of that. Um, I think that'd been successful so far is because they listen. Um, they take risks, their debt, they invest, they invest in their teachers, they invest in the technology, then vista time, um, to learn. And I think one of the best things is that they worked with me to develop a three year plan of what this is going to look like over time. That they know that stuff's not going to happen now, but they've got this plan in place. And the plan really is that my job is to make sure that they are sustainable so that they have people on site that can lead learning when I'm not there, that they are going to become the sustainable environment of integrating technology authentically and purposefully. Um, so that they can continue to make great change and, and they're invested in that and it's been really exciting to sit.
Speaker 2:
27:13
Is there inbuilt um, flexibility in a strategy like that so that they are ready for when they have to, um, for example, abandoned a resource or, or completely pivot in terms of how things are going?
Speaker 3:
27:29
Yeah, absolutely. And I think a lot of the time it's, it's budget related, so making sure that there is room in budgets to move or debt and change if needed and making sure that when they're doing things like signing contracts with companies that they really think quite heavily about what impacts that you're to have. Is signing up to a single subject specific tool going to be beneficial or am I more, am I going to be better off working with, with a company that's going to provide support for me in English and maths and languages and PE, you know, think about this holistically and not just as a subject specific teacher, making sure that there's people on staff like curriculum directors to ensure that they think about the bigger picture and not just those silos.
Speaker 2:
28:14
That's certainly a paradigm shift that we're, we're seeing is more and more focused on bridging those gaps and dissolving the silo walls. Really. It's, uh, it's very interesting.
Speaker 3:
28:26
So
Speaker 2:
28:28
having said that, what are some of the myths that you've run into quite often with regard to implementing education technology or strategies around education technology?
Speaker 3:
28:38
Yeah, I think there's a couple of things. I think a lot of leaders think when I go and talk with them and sheer things like, oh no, we don't need help. We've got this. Um, and I think the biggest issue is that schools get really stuck in their ways and it's really easy to say, or we've been doing it this way or this is the way I have always done things. Um, and that just doesn't fly. Technology changes so fast that you must have people, not just one or two people, but majority of people moving with that change and making sure that you're keeping up because schools get left behind so easily, particularly when you have leaders not willing to change at a debt. I think the other thing that's the myth I think in schools is that technology is going to provide the answer to every problem. Um, by dumping technology on kids discs. Um, they're going to be fine. I think that's also the same lines as our kids are kids are digital natives. They know how to do that really. They know how to do a lot, but they, we still have to teach them. We have to educate them. They're in this world of change too. They know more than we do. We can't just let them be the leaders. We need to help them as well.
Speaker 2:
29:48
Yeah, absolutely. I have heard that being bandied about quite often. Um, the fact that there's a presumption there, we're still dealing with, with young people who are learning how, how to think and how to use tools just as we are as adults. You can get into traps that way. That's awesome. Um, I am conscious of your time, so I've got a few quickfire questions. If you are keen just said let's do it. Okay. Some odd ones in here. Bear with me and I, I am an English teacher. So this first one is just dear to me. I liked, I learned a lot from people by this. Uh, this question, do you have any favorite words or words? What are they and why do you like them?
Speaker 3:
30:33
Um, Yup. The first one is y. Uh, I think everything and any business comes back to why. Um, and for me in my world it's, it's why with technology, like why are you using technology, why are you choosing this tool? And if you can't justify it, then don't use it. I think the other word is, um, probably one more word ignite. My company's name is Egnyte ed tick. Uh, I love ignite because I'm all about igniting passion and other people. I think ignition that starting point is really important.
Speaker 2:
31:09
Hmm. Ignite and y. Fantastic. What are you most curious about right now? And this could be anything. We don't have to limit it to what we've discussed today.
Speaker 3:
31:21
Yeah, I, uh, I was just talking about let's say she at the Australian International School of Vietnam. I was there working with them and, uh, I got asked a very similar question and I see it, uh, honestly, my biggest curiosity right now is Instagram with the decline and all sorts of other social media tools that snapchat, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, linkedin are all declining and use. Instagram remained steady. In fact, it grows. And that's a really curious point. I just don't get Instagram are really want to, but I find it so hard, and this is my big learning point, is that right now, yeah.
Speaker 2:
31:59
Okay. Um, what to what top two or three, or even just one, uh, books would you recommend every teacher should read and why?
Speaker 3:
32:08
All right. Yeah, this is an easy one for me. I love books and the two books that hands down stand up for me in my frame of work is around, um, strategy, passion, why, uh, technology integration. The first book is George crosses the innovator's mindset. And the second book is by an incredible, passionate, um, engaging educators. Dave Burgess, um, teach like a pirate. Uh, for me, those, the hands down the beast. Two books I've read.
Speaker 2:
32:39
Yeah, I've heard
Speaker 3:
32:40
teach like a pirate is certainly worth a read. I, I need to, I haven't read either of those, so thank you for that. Um, if you could advise educators to adopt one daily habit or practice to help them enjoy progress and succeed in their career, what would it be? Right. Again, I think it's, for me it's Twitter. Um, it's used your, and I guess it's not just Twitter, it's any social media, but use your spare time to learn the way you want to learn. Um, and again, use it like you own it. Um, I learned more in five minutes on the train or on the bus from Twitter than I often do in a full day conference. Um, because I get to own and personalize my learning. Yeah. I think the biggest piece of advice is just to learn how to harness your time better and be more effective. Um, with the way you learn.
Speaker 2:
33:28
I can't help but recognize the power of that. Um, use it like you own it phrase, if you haven't already hashtagged it. I'll put it on a tee shirt, Craig. And I think, I think there's another, there's another one is school they're brewing. What is the best educational quote you have ever heard? And we're going to leave. Use it like you own it out for this.
Speaker 3:
33:49
Yeah. Yeah. A Quote Creek Camp 29 today. I think I, this is one that I always share and I never go and share and speak without using this quote as from Simon Sinek and it's, people don't buy what you do. They buy why you do it. I think the why drives change. Um, the why is everything. If you can't justify what you're doing, then you shouldn't be doing it.
Speaker 2:
34:20
Fantastic. I think that is the perfect note to, uh, to wrap up. Um, before we go, can you tell us where is the best place to find you on the Internet? It's, people want to reach out or get in touch, right?
Speaker 3:
34:37
Um, my blog website is Mr. Kemp in z.com. I'm on Twitter. It's at Mr Kingpin Zed Facebook. If you type in facebook.com/ [inaudible] P andZ , it'll take you to my Facebook page, Linkedin, Craig, Kim, Singapore. Um, and you can, can, people can email me if needed as well. Can you put me through my website?
Speaker 2:
35:02
Awesome. And any speaking engagements or events will be available on there, I presume?
Speaker 3:
35:07
Yeah, I, if people go to [inaudible] dot com click on speaking, you can find it there. I've got a lot on in the next sort of six to 12 months traveling around Asia. Just about every week. I'm planning on being in Australia in October, 2019 December, 2019 and then late January, 2020. Uh, and there'll be more to be announced as well. Uh, and then I have a confirmed trip to New Zealand, uh, in December actually as well as April, 2020.
Speaker 2:
35:33
Great. And I, I'm sure we will catch up again on the road somewhere. Absolutely. Absolutely. Um, thanks so much. I have to, I have to mention some of the takeaways from me. Um, for sure. It has to be your emphasis on the why. I think having, um, a robust rationale for implementing any resources in education is vital and I really appreciate how much you, you drive that message. And I also like the strategic, um, the emphasis on strategy that the whole school emphasis or strategy, the context of the school and how that dictates what, what educators should choose. And the third thing is how compassionate you are and how much you want teachers to think about themselves and to look after themselves. I think that is a wonderful message. Thank you. And um, it has been a pleasure talking to you and thanks so much for taking the time and I look forward to meeting you again soon, hopefully. And absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. You're welcome. Take care. Thank you. Bye Bye.
Speaker 2:
36:41
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