Jonny is joined by a special guest--his wife!--to talk about her work for Preemptive Love and the meaning behind their slogan "Love Anyway." They chat about podcasts, talk about the risk of loving, crossing the boundaries of "us vs. them", and what pastors can learn from storytellers. We know you'll be challenged and encouraged by this episode as you're pressed to think about the ways God is calling you to love your community.