The Rewind-- He Wasn't Ready Recap

Welcome to The Rewind where Angel and Gazza discuss the show episodes. This week they talk about what it was like to record the first episode of the series, as well as, revisit some experiences from the past. The conversation gets kind of feisty at some points but it's always love between them.

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Actors:
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Musicians:
Mar- https://linktr.ee/i.t.s.m.a.rmusic

Rowdy Rahz- https://instagram.com/rowdykiiing?igshid=197mi25dnu2oq

Sound:
Duke Mix Da Trak- https://dukemixdatrak.com/

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:06

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Speaker 2 0:08

Welcome to the mermaid and the lion, the rewind. This is our recap show where we will discuss each and every week, how we felt about the show's content, the artists we work with and what it was like revisiting these real life experiences. Make sure that you tune in to get all the details now onto the actual show.

Speaker 1 0:34

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Speaker 2 0:35

Hey guys, are you ready? Oh, I'm ready. All right. So let's dive into episode number one. He wasn't ready and I am so, so, so proud of our first episode, our inaugural episode. It is done. It is out there. You guys are listening to it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Can't thank you enough. Really? I'm so excited about it. How you feel

Speaker 1 1:07

I'm feeling pretty damn good right now, man. I feel like we, um, we got a lot of fun, um, uh, creating this and telling our story and putting it out there. So I'm excited to see, you know, and see what the return is and hope everybody enjoys it. And, uh, you know, make sure you, uh, check in with us every week on this stuff and the use of scribe and, you know, we'll do our best to keep you updated.

Speaker 2 1:31

Absolutely. I definitely, we want your feedback please comment and leave a review or DMS because we only want to get better. We're just too amateur people out here trying to make this thing amazing for you guys, because we want to normalize what's normal and that is having a relationship that's healthy, which includes ups and downs, but how you manage them. And we are trying to tell it in a creative way, right? So I'm very, very, very excited about it. And the one thing that we want to do is go ahead and dive in and talk about some of the support we had with putting together episodes.

Speaker 1 2:16

Yeah. We have some awesome, awesome support, I think for this whole first season, actually.

Speaker 2 2:22

Yes, indeed. It, it has been, everybody has been fantastic. I don't think I have reached out to one person and they've told me no, that's fantastic. You know, it's, it's amazing. And the mermaid and the line is such a passion project for us. And having the support that we have is everything. And we're just going to go ahead and kick it off with the star of the show. And that is Linnaeus. Hey, uh, she played Camorra in episode one and she killed it. I couldn't have asked her to do better. Like the coaching was like nonexistent. It was everything in this episode. Wouldn't be what it is without you and Neha. We thank you so much. So to tell you a little bit about her, she has two dope podcasts out there. The first one is unpacking the box podcast it's available on all podcast platforms. So go check it out. And she just launched a new podcast called the queen series, which pays homage to dynamic women who have gone through so many things as in, you know, having those tough conversations. So her first two episodes were about colorism and they were amazing. And she's had, you know, actresses, she has firefighters, she's had porn stars, right. He knows she has, her shows are great. So you need to check out queen series and back in the back. Was that the point?

Speaker 1 4:03

Well, it was always that I might go back to that one. I'm just messing. I heard it. And that was a good show

Speaker 2 4:10

Guys. Crazy. Right. Whichever though, is that like, she has so many other good things, even though that loyalty and role with the episode was good though, but so Linnea, thank you for everything you guys make sure you go and support her. She is a dynamic woman and we're proud to have the opportunity to collect.

Speaker 1 4:28

Yeah, definitely good peoples.

Speaker 2 4:30

So the other actor in this episode is fit minutes. What can we say about fit minutes, castle,

Speaker 1 4:37

Man, man fit, man. His did his thing, um, this, these first few episodes and we really appreciate, um, and hen loan in his expertise. Right? So he'll be back. You'll be hearing a lot more from, from fitness.

Speaker 2 4:51

Yeah. He's one of the main characters throughout the season. So you will hear a lot from him, but let me say fit minutes plate Rob. And he taught my script y'all I gave him a script. He said, this is not what Rob is gonna say. And he made it his own for real. And it was pretty doggone good. I must admit I was a little heart, heart, you know, my heart was palpitating. Like, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 5:16

That's not what I wrote.

Speaker 2 5:18

They did it, but it didn't matter. He, what he did was great. The creative license he took, I think made it much better. And it was good. I don't know what else to say except for thank you. Fit minutes. It's been great.

Speaker 1 5:33

Yeah, I appreciate that, bro.

Speaker 2 5:35

Also, I would be remiss if I didn't talk about the sound engineering on this episode, we went with Duke mix the track and he slipped.

Speaker 1 5:53

Make sure you check this man out.

Speaker 2 5:55

And if you're a podcast, I was trash. You shouldn't go. And you know, maybe have a consultation with him. I don't know how much he charges by the hour, but you might want to go and check him out. He's worked with great artists like LMA. Um, who else? Um, I don't know. All of them. I just know element that stuck out.

Speaker 1 6:12

Oh, not only that he makes great beats too. Now I've used a lot of his,

Speaker 2 6:16

Our coast beats is the name that he does for me. So all the instrumentals on this episode or were made by Arcos speeds. So I'm really, really, really happy to have worked with him because he is also just dynamic, right? He has all these different skillsets that we were able to lean on and it just made the show that much better. And since we started talking about music, uh, did y'all hear that fly music on this episode? I love the music, this episode a lot. So we'll, we'll kick it off with the first sound that you guys heard, which is risk heavy by Roddy. Ross. Yeah, it is. I could have had a car, but I just, my wrist, it's a dope song. So go stream it. Today is available on all platforms, Roddy Ross on Instagram, he's at rowdy King. The King has three eyes, but all of it's going to be in the show notes so you can check him out really good songs.

Speaker 1 7:20

So you checked that man page. I'll make sure you check his stuff out, man. It's fire. Trust me.

Speaker 2 7:25

He likes to work out to it. So he's like inspired for him. Then

Speaker 1 7:29

I already, I already ran two, uh, two ads with that, with that song right there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 7:34

It was a pretty tough song. And also we have Mar on deck and he closed it out. Got them smooth. They're not all smooth. It's a little bop going on, Bob, Bob going on too. But in this one it was smooth. Right. You know, let me know who I am. It's only God could tell me who I look, I'm messing up the song, but it is the shoes.

Speaker 1 8:02

Yeah. It's set the vibe in the episode. Is that a real nice vibe? So that came out right.

Speaker 2 8:08

So awesome. So thank you, Mark. You can stream him everywhere. He has a whole album out and basically I've begged him for almost every song on the album. So you guys are about to hear it and you're going to want to go stream it, go, you know, support these indie artists because they are doing the dog on thing. There's a lot of good music. That's another thing that I got out of putting this series together and that is meeting so many independent artists that have great songs out there that deserve so much more exposure. I enjoy the soundtrack to mermaid and the light. And I hope that you guys will as well and support these guys by streaming their music because they were dope to us. And you guys should be dope to them because if you liked the episode, you liked their songs pretty much. So I don't think there's anybody to who else we owe credit to.

Speaker 1 9:05

Let me see. Um, I think you got everybody.

Speaker 2 9:08

I got everybody. I think I got everybody to yep. You know what, let me give some shouts out to gasser. This is his first time. It was his first episode brand new to this. So tell us what it was like recording this episode for the first time,

Speaker 1 9:24

Because it's very interesting. Like you said, this is, this is I'm brand new to this shit, right? Yeah. It's, you know, we both, if you would've asked me, I don't know how many months ago, what? Less than one, six, seven I was doing what podcast? What audio drama. What? Nah, nah, not me. So, uh, so, but yeah, um, this was a good project and I had fun. I had fun working on this.

Speaker 2 9:51

You're going to do a season two. We only episode one in,

Speaker 1 9:55

I think I like, I very much enjoyed the creative process of this whole thing and telling our story. And um, I think it's a way to create something that's very, uh, memorable. Um, the stuff that we could look back on and reflect on and I think that's always good. Right?

Speaker 2 10:11

I think it definitely is good too. Um, I wasn't in this episode, I'm actually not in the next couple of episodes. So watching the creative process for you and everyone who supported us and putting these other episodes together has been great for me. I got a chance to like kind of direct a little bit on some of them do a lot of directing my direction was great. I gave excellent feedback

Speaker 1 10:41

Except for when it's like three o'clock and you in the studio trying to try to hash it out and what's next.

Speaker 2 10:47

Well, this is the thing. No one told him to start recording at three o'clock in the morning, guys, not in the afternoon in the morning. So he wants to be agitated. That's not my problem. He should record in normal human hours. How about that? Okay. But you guys already know what is like out there. If you have something that you're passionate about and you want to see grow, and you feel like there is a message behind it, you're gonna give your all so three o'clock in the morning is nothing. When you really believe in what you're doing to a boss, this man and his boss come,

Speaker 1 11:21

You got me in here. Miles, we'll have a little fun while I'm on this mic.

Speaker 2 11:25

That's what it's all about. It's about having fun, fun and spreading love. So you told us how you felt about this episode, but I'm thinking that it's time for us to take it down and take it a little more transparent. And I would like for you to talk a little bit about Kamora the woman, tell us a little bit about who she was and why it was important to include her in this series when we had the conversations

Speaker 1 11:54

And we like, you know, we ain't going to go for the whole list of women I've dated, but there were a few, um, a very small few that played a significant role, uh, in my life. And I felt like I had a hand in kind of molded me to who I am and at least up until the point where I met you and you took it from there, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 12:15

I overshadowed everyone. I overshadowed every previous woman, I had to tear them down, poor liquid acid and make them liquid, then put them in a molding VAT and then put them in the freezer for 48 hours.

Speaker 1 12:32

I need to tell a new body that you guys know the angel was very animated. And so, but yeah, she wasn't, she was a very significant part of my life. And um, I think, I think what her, I mean, a lot of people tell me I was crazy for not, you know, marrying this girl, you know? Um, but I think for me, the, the, the age difference and, and, and I just wasn't ready. Right. I was very, very young. I had just bought my own home and my in Jew, I'm like early twenties and got my own home. I got my own business going on, mental, a lot of things, I'm on the streets and party promotions. And I met this, this, this, this woman, right. Who had her shit together too, we should just put our own home and, you know, very career oriented, real good person. So, um, like I said, it was age difference and, uh, the whole virginity thing right. Came to that was a big shock to me. And I feel like, um, that was a hard one for me too. A lot of guys, there's probably some guys who probably would have gone and just go on and took that. But, uh, I didn't feel right about doing that. Not at all. I couldn't, I couldn't do that to her.

Speaker 2 13:51

So you mentioned Komora his age and her virginity. So putting those two together, do you think that if Kimora was closer to your age and she was a Virgin and she would have held fast to wanting to be a Virgin to marriage? Cause I know that there was a point where Kimora was like, come on, you can take it now, but let's say this person held to their convictions. Do you think you could have lasted with a woman in your age bracket? Who was a Virgin

Speaker 1 14:22

In my age bracket? It was not, probably not, not at that point in time, like I said,

Speaker 2 14:26

Who are nasty ass dog, nasty, dirty dog, dude, trying to settle down

Speaker 1 14:37

Anybody. But this woman came into my life and it was like, Oh shit, damn, you know, I could go bachelor mode or I could be with this, but with this, I was gonna be missing out on a lot too. So

Speaker 2 14:54

Did you force yourself into her relationship with her? Because she was

Speaker 1 14:57

Forced myself into a relationship. It was, it was nice, man. Especially because you know, some previous relationships for me wasn't really that, that good. So kind of, you know, meeting her was like a breath of fresh air. Right. So, and she kinda,

Speaker 2 15:13

Her air wasn't fresh in the mind though. Right?

Speaker 1 15:16

What what'd you just say?

Speaker 2 15:18

I said her air wasn't fresher than mine.

Speaker 1 15:20

Nah, nah. Ain't nobody is going to be fresh in yours. I keep that 100

Speaker 2 15:26

I'm needy and clingy guys and I will make sure he reaffirms me

Speaker 1 15:30

Angel. Ain't gonna like this, but uh, you have a lot of the same qualities that Camorra has.

Speaker 2 15:37

What's that sound? When she told me she was a burden

Speaker 1 15:40

And your mind and you're roughly in my age range and no, I ain't. No damn crazy cradle Robinson. Don't don't bring that shit up again. So, um, um, what was the question again though? So it was the question again,

Speaker 2 15:54

You've been talking for a long time. There was no role. It was the question I asked you most recently was about a woman being in your age bracket and a Virgin. Do you think you would have maintained that relationship? I was just trying to see if there would have been.

Speaker 1 16:09

Yeah. Cause that, that, that stage in my life, I just, I weren't then I weren't there.

Speaker 2 16:14

It's still, do you feel now if you met a woman like that you were at this certain maturity level that you could still date them, take them seriously and abstain from sex.

Speaker 1 16:28

If I wasn't with you, it's a trick question.

Speaker 2 16:32

No, I guess I'm trying to see if you feel like you've elevated yourself to, if you happen to be single again of God forbid I passed away. Cause that's the only way that you can get away from me. And you were out single Ganny you met a woman who said that she wanted to wait until marriage. Do you think now you could still date them?

Speaker 1 16:57

No,

Speaker 2 16:59

Really sex. Is that important to you? Okay.

Speaker 1 17:04

Um, yeah, a little bit. Yeah. I just don't know. Okay. Let me, Oh, seriousness. I would definitely really, really consider it, you know, I would definitely cause I would, I would definitely, um, respect that and admire that, you know, I would just have to see where I am in my current state of life. Right. And see if that's something that, you know, she can do that I can do. You know? And if I'm in bachelor mode in my, in my mindset, then that's just what it, what it is. If I'm in, you know, cause it's just think about most people who've been married and who,

Speaker 2 17:45

Yeah. We're not going to talk about this anymore because you're going to say something that's going to irritate me feel. I don't know. Like most people who have been married, they've been with that one person and now they want to be free. Yeah. And I don't know, like I'm not trapping you look, I'm Rihanna assessed with me. It's amazing dude. Who cares about anybody else?

Speaker 1 18:04

If you're going to divorce, you getting a divorce for right.

Speaker 2 18:07

I never said divorce. I said die. Now you're going to,

Speaker 1 18:09

I'm just saying, this is whatever, you know

Speaker 2 18:17

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Speaker 1 18:17

So yeah. Yeah. Okay. But you know, okay. So if somebody, if you die and after, after a few years, after a few years, I don't know. Like, I don't know. That would have to be, I couldn't be looking for it. You know what I'm saying? It couldn't, it could, it would have to be something very, very natural. Like I really just couldn't have, in my mind, I'm going to go find somebody to be with. It would just have to kind of happen.

Speaker 2 18:48

And when you think about the kids too, you want to make sure that you're very careful be careful question for me and we're moving on. And that was, that was pretty nice. How you did that. Right? How you, I'm trying to wrap that up. So what did you full circle? What did you learn from your relationship? How did with Kamora, with your, from your relationship with Kamora, what did you learn?

Speaker 1 19:16

I felt like I said this, why I wasn't ready?

Speaker 2 19:19

No, you know, you weren't ready, but what did you, what were you able to take away from that, that you were able to move forward into your next relationships with that? You feel made you a better man.

Speaker 1 19:30

My recognition, like I really knew how to, I felt like, I felt like I had a better vision of what a good woman was. Like I could tell, you know what I'm saying? Somebody had said no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, this just what I wanted. Right. Or what I wanted. And um, and what I felt like I could live with or not live with. I felt like I had a clear vision of that.

Speaker 2 19:59

And then how did it improve you personally?

Speaker 1 20:02

Well, um, how did it improve me personally? Just being, I mean, just going forward after that, right. Just make them better judgment calls about who I'm dating and, and why you,

Speaker 2 20:20

Cause I just feel like those aren't personal growth, I guess it is. And maybe, you know, I'm being anal about it.

Speaker 1 20:28

You move after a situation. Does it?

Speaker 2 20:30

Yeah. That is, that is growth. You got me. I'll be quiet. That's important.

Speaker 1 20:34

Yeah. And so, you know, I just moved a little bit differently

Speaker 2 20:38

Would say like, you know, I started to care more. I was more transparent with my feelings. Um, I felt like I was more clear in my ability. I was more intentional about how I gave my love. You know, things like that.

Speaker 1 20:56

Pretty much said that. Not,

Speaker 2 20:59

No you did it saying that. I knew how to pick it up.

Speaker 1 21:02

Everything you just said right there encompassed the one line that I just said a minute ago with, Oh, I move differently. Please leave comments. That's the problem. Right? Y'all on this all touchy, touchy filling, filling stuff and a us guys. We kind of keep it short and simple. Yeah.

Speaker 2 21:19

Well you need to elaborate guys. If you want to fully reach us, you need to work on your communication skills. Be concise at work. Elaborate with right.

Speaker 1 21:30

Okay. Let's keep moving.

Speaker 2 21:34

See you guys.

Speaker 1 21:36

No, we can make this a longer episode. We can go back and forth.[inaudible]

Speaker 2 21:42

Tune into marriage. Expose. If you want to hear some back and forth. Cause that's not what this one's supposed to be about. So we'll move on to, um, the end.

Speaker 1 21:51

That's not, it's not the end right now. Is it?

Speaker 2 21:53

It's the end you want to, you want to try to get into it? Marriage exposures.

Speaker 1 21:58

It's been gone for another five minutes, man. Cause uh, we want, we want to know why

Speaker 2 22:03

I have nothing else that I want to know from you, sir.

Speaker 1 22:07

Okay. Well I guess that's the end.

Speaker 2 22:09

It's not the end and like that. I'm supposed to talk about what I learned.

Speaker 1 22:12

Okay. You know, we're cutting this part out, right? Why, why? Okay. I guess we're not cutting this part out and keep it rolling.

Speaker 2 22:22

See you guys. This is the benefit of being a part of Patrion need. Just get the real deal. The real real. And I already told him that these were going to be truly authentic shows. I'm all we're going to cut this out. No, this is it. This is actually what couples go through. Cause you know what, I'm still going to get in the bed with him and I might suck his Dick still. Even though we went through this,

Speaker 1 22:50

Y'all keep tuning in though. Cause uh, as I'm on this mic a little bit more and more, my tongue is gonna become looser and looser and I'm gonna start a whiplash and angel with it and that's what I'm gonna be doing.

Speaker 2 23:02

Ooh. Oh I want to get whiplash too at that time.

Speaker 1 23:10

All right, wrap it up. Wrap this thing

Speaker 2 23:13

Please. You can whip last me, sir, with that. Okay. All of a sudden we forgive it. I don't even remember what we were going on about earlier. So what, what, what did I learn from this episode now? Obviously we have talked about Kamora and our relationship as the, um, a whole, but I think that going through it this way and picking out what parts of the story were most impactful to share, helped me learn about your values. Even more, even after all of these years together, I don't hate your values. I actually feel like it was incredibly honorable that you decided to walk away from taking her virginity when she offered it.

Speaker 1 24:05

But you don't like knowing that there's another woman that I still hold this little, a little teeny little thing in my heart for you. I'm just saying what I'm saying is she has a, she has a place in my story, right?

Speaker 2 24:26

Everybody. Yeah. Everybody has a place in your story. That doesn't mean that they have a place in your heart.

Speaker 1 24:31

Well, she, she, she pretty much does, right?

Speaker 2 24:35

No, it's still, well, Horace has like a really bad,

Speaker 1 24:39

I can't say that. I can't say that. I didn't have feelings for that girl when I was with that girl, not to say that she come around now I'm going to leave you for her. But I can't say that I don't have something for that person because I respect that person that I might have

Speaker 2 24:54

Something like when you say something that sounds like a romantic feeling. So don't say something like, you need to rephrase that. Like clearly.

Speaker 1 25:04

Well she weren't my friend. I don't have a romantic thing with her any more.

Speaker 2 25:09

Is it? What is it in your heart? Like you hold a special place in your heart because you learn something like, I'm good that your, your heart sounds like love and romance. You don't put the two together

Speaker 1 25:21

Episodes together. We talked about certain people who did hold a[inaudible] better word, better choice of words. They were impactful in our life. That's how you want to put it. Yeah. That's how it should be. Okay. It's bullshit. But

Speaker 2 25:42

No, it's not. It's a thing you're saying that you still are slightly in love with her

Speaker 1 25:45

Impactful is a right word. But to sit here and say that there was no emotion or

Speaker 2 25:51

It's not, that's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is today, there shouldn't be any type of emotional tug or pool. When you're thinking about this woman who you were with 20 years ago, you keep on saying there's a little teeny place in your heart. That's a tub and a pool, a teeny tug and a teeny pool. There should be no place in your heart.

Speaker 1 26:12

Like I said, we don't like that.

Speaker 2 26:15

It does not make sense then.

Speaker 1 26:18

So why would, why are we sharing our stories of these significant people in our lives? Who, who we once had feelings for? Right. Once had feelings for people, made us who we are today. So they hold. However you want to say it. They hold some special place on our journey.

Speaker 2 26:39

I feel like all the people I chose, I'm not saying that

Speaker 1 26:44

They think like we still love them, but I'm just saying that they are there. They are a part of, of who we are today.

Speaker 2 26:52

Yes. Baggage for sure. Old, dirty, rusty Louie bags where the ELLs are off.

Speaker 1 27:02

That's not, not necessarily baggage. Now I would question not what you just said. What baggage? Because why, why God? Why is it baggage? It's just rolling from it and learning from it. Right?

Speaker 2 27:13

You're supposed to be growing and learning. Not holding places and not holding places. Baggage. Yeah, you could. Well, let's throw it out. Trash Tuesday. Shoot. I can't stand this man. We'll call it. Winglet differences.

Speaker 1 27:32

The first one his mom would get it together before. Um, the next one I got you. I got you.

Speaker 2 27:41

I don't know what you're talking about, but have it together for them. I feel like this was a great conversation. You know? It was important. I think I'm gonna keep my, my mouth was open, but now I think I'll just keep it close for the evening.

Speaker 1 27:59

Now we'll change that real quick.

Speaker 2 28:01

Oh, I'd like to see you. I don't know. You gotta go fix your heart first. Then call the surgeon and see how you can get that removed. And then maybe my job might

Speaker 1 28:09

Damn, man. I ain't going to hit an end of this. I don't know we gonna get off this mic and she's still gonna be talking about this shit I guarantee

Speaker 2 28:17

Or not. I'm really seeing it all here. It's done. We're done. We're done.

Speaker 1 28:22

We're done. Okay. We're wrap it up then.

Speaker 2 28:24

You know what? You guys, we hope you enjoy this episode of the rewind. We can't wait for you guys to check in next week and hear episode number two. It's gonna be dope stuff. It's Gasa again. I'm not in. I'm not, I don't come in until episode four. I don't think so. If you're looking for me, if you check it for me. Yeah. We're going to do this every week. Doug, every week, every week, every week we are going to rewind on the show and discuss what you may not always be this aggressive. I didn't even expect it to be like this this time, but it's cool.

Speaker 1 29:01

Well, listen to this shit back. Let's see what makes it. Let's see what makes it out.

Speaker 2 29:06

We're not cutting. One thing. We are not cutting. One thing

Speaker 1 29:10

Shit. Y'all here. Look in the audio. She got caught. Skipping on cutting. No DASA. Cut that shit out.

Speaker 2 29:24

Gas is not cutting anything. I don't even know how to edit it, but cutting Guinea pig out. I'll tell it,

Speaker 1 29:30

Like I said, you want to catch a tongue lashing next week. If you're come with this nonsense, put me into no corner, man. Alright. Alright. We good? Very good. Alright. I love you too, babe. Alright, bless. Bless up

Speaker 3 29:47

Next week.