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And your"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":853.38,"endTime":855.72,"body":"yard is set up for that because"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":856.95,"endTime":861.0,"body":"your property slopes to the east"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":856.95,"endTime":861.0,"body":"down to the east and your house"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":861.0,"endTime":866.07,"body":"is on the west side. And it's a"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":861.0,"endTime":866.07,"body":"tall house. So as the sun is"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":866.07,"endTime":869.82,"body":"setting, your beds in the back"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":866.07,"endTime":869.82,"body":"are starting to get shade."},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":870.36,"endTime":873.06,"body":"The beds that are"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":870.36,"endTime":873.06,"body":"closest to the house will start"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":873.09,"endTime":876.51,"body":"being in full shade by two"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":873.09,"endTime":876.51,"body":"o'clock in the afternoon or so."},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":876.57,"endTime":879.6,"body":"Perfect. Yes. six"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":876.57,"endTime":879.6,"body":"hours. The sun comes up in the"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":879.6,"endTime":881.97,"body":"sky by six in the morning in the"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":879.6,"endTime":881.97,"body":"summer. 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