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And I"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred 2","startTime":853.87,"endTime":858.88,"body":"would think that if there is one"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred 2","startTime":858.91,"endTime":863.02,"body":"critter that terrorizes gardens,"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred 2","startTime":858.91,"endTime":863.02,"body":"12 months a year, especially"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred 2","startTime":863.02,"endTime":865.63,"body":"here in California, it's snails"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred 2","startTime":863.02,"endTime":865.63,"body":"and slugs."},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":865.69,"endTime":867.91,"body":"Yeah, that's"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":865.69,"endTime":867.91,"body":"certainly true. And it's gonna"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":867.91,"endTime":870.43,"body":"get worse if when our first"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":867.91,"endTime":870.43,"body":"rains come."},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":876.88,"endTime":880.0,"body":"All right. So for"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":876.88,"endTime":880.0,"body":"snail control, I almost want to"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":880.0,"endTime":884.5,"body":"go around and just tear out low"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":880.0,"endTime":884.5,"body":"lying leafy greens of"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":885.46,"endTime":889.63,"body":"ornamentals like Bergenia and"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":885.46,"endTime":889.63,"body":"things like that where they tend"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":889.63,"endTime":890.23,"body":"to hide."},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":890.3,"endTime":893.27,"body":"Yeah, slugs and"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":890.3,"endTime":893.27,"body":"snails. 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But if"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":979.73,"endTime":983.75,"body":"you've ever handled one, to"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":979.73,"endTime":983.75,"body":"let's say divide, it is full of"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":983.75,"endTime":987.8,"body":"slugs and snails. 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The older"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1087.46,"endTime":1093.61,"body":"baits which are very toxic to"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1093.61,"endTime":1098.17,"body":"pets, so I no longer use them."},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1093.61,"endTime":1098.17,"body":"The older baits left when they"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1098.17,"endTime":1101.44,"body":"killed the slug in the snail"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1098.17,"endTime":1101.44,"body":"they left a slime trail all over"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1101.44,"endTime":1105.16,"body":"the garden. And it was somewhat"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1101.44,"endTime":1105.16,"body":"satisfying, I have to admit, to"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1105.16,"endTime":1108.34,"body":"go out and realize that they"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1105.16,"endTime":1108.34,"body":"died last night. 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They will like"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1139.24,"endTime":1143.2,"body":"to feed in a place like that to"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1143.2,"endTime":1144.97,"body":"see if you have slugs and"},{"speaker":"Debbie Flower","startTime":1143.2,"endTime":1144.97,"body":"snails."},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":1144.0,"endTime":1148.44,"body":"Of course, it's"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":1144.0,"endTime":1148.44,"body":"very important to positively"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":1148.44,"endTime":1151.77,"body":"identify the pest before you"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":1148.44,"endTime":1151.77,"body":"start applying any sort of"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":1151.77,"endTime":1155.04,"body":"pesticide and why waste your"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":1151.77,"endTime":1155.04,"body":"money on iron phosphate if it's"},{"speaker":"Farmer Fred","startTime":1155.04,"endTime":1157.83,"body":"actually something else. 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