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#11 Gus Lloyd - Seize the Day to COVID-19 to Being Catholic Today - Discussions with the Deacons
The Deacons sat down with Mr. Gus Lloyd to discuss current events, Catholicism, COVID-19, and other topics. It was a good show and Gus is exceptional at representing the faith. He is an apologist, a catholic, a husband, a father, a grandfather, and so much more. We had a great discussion with Gus and hope you find our time together enlightening.
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Tim Stout :Today is June 5 2020. Friday the ninth week in ordinary oral Bishop is martyr. You are tuned into deacons discussions.
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Unknown Speaker :not really Friday. We're pretending
Tim Stout :like it's Friday. Ordinary Time.
Unknown Speaker :Ordinary Time.
Tim Stout :How did that happen? That'd be that'd be a good way these categories.
Dallas Kelley :Last season were dropped off.
Tim Stout :Oh, word Season Two of ordinary time. Season Two. We'll come back to that. Here we are. It's Cardona recording studio. I'm digging tips out.
Dallas Kelley :Kelly lamb
Unknown Speaker :probably win.
Fr. Linh Nguyen :Last week we had a great joke.
Tim Stout :Bill rent. I've got one pretty good. I think so. Yeah. He's a parishioner. I have two people asked me who was he he's a parishioner. relatively new
Dallas Kelley :to the faith. Yep. singer songwriter
Unknown Speaker :joined us. You know, a lot of I got a lot.
Tim Stout :I think, you know, a lot of times Want to hear jazz music
Unknown Speaker :for me what I forgot of his music was delivered a strong yeah just really good
Dallas Kelley :faith
Unknown Speaker :I thought it was a great show
Fr. Linh Nguyen :I can't
Tim Stout :wait to see how you're gonna get engaged
Unknown Speaker :like you'll have a secret thing that's not a problem
Unknown Speaker :you need all the lectures right? Although March
Unknown Speaker :yes he had this
Fr. Linh Nguyen :outdoor thing inside yet on inside yeah we can't do it Coronavirus told me this he cannot that
Unknown Speaker :was they could get
Fr. Linh Nguyen :10 if that many so he did it. You know just like us doing mass outdoors
Tim Stout :Great we didn't we had mass outdoor right? St. Francis and john SS f j.org support our mission Matt could play the the jingle today could have come up with a new one. I think that one got a little old. So, but anyway, we would like all of our parishioners and all of our listeners if you want to support the show or support our ministry here in Georgetown, Scott County, just go to SF Jey. org you can support all kinds of stuff on there there's there's 2020 plus options from adopt a student to daily or daily but weekly operatory Peters pants is on there. Everything's on there. Right? Right. So you know if you don't like something or don't like something else we don't I don't think we have. We don't have a category for deacons discuss discussions and drinks, but maybe we should add that in there. Hey, but let's just let's go ahead and get jump into current events. For we get to Our guest today, who you're gonna love Gus Lloyd, great, great guy. He's going to join us today so get ready for that but current events. Does anybody want to start?
Dallas Kelley :How start if you want me to Yeah. Mine is out of Madison, Wisconsin. Attorneys representing the Diocese of Madison sent a letter to Dane County and city of Madison officials on Wednesday June 3, notifying officials they will file suit if parishes in the diocese are not permitted to operate at the same capacity of retail outlets. Under Dane counties, reopening guidelines retail businesses are permitted to operate at 25% capacity. places of worship however, are limited to the maximum of 50 people regardless of the size of the building and how many it will hold. Under the order thousands of people may shop together in a mall hundreds of employees may arrive at an officer effective After every morning to conduct business, and hundreds of children, we spend a few hours bouncing off a trampoline. But we are not permitted to worship. It was from the Dasa Madison. Wow.
Fr. Linh Nguyen :Oh, there's a lot of that going on right now.
Tim Stout :It's the inconsistency.
Dallas Kelley :Yeah. Right. If it was consistent, I probably wouldn't have a problem but it's not and I get it it's not anywhere. It's not anywhere really.
Tim Stout :Right. I mean, yeah, inside a state even inside even inside Scott County, it's not consistent. I mean, we went out to we went out to dinner the other day we went to make a Sita and have you better if you can make a sale lately but you walk in and the guy's got a mask on. Then he's got a plastic face shield on then he wants to scan your temperature. And, you know, you go to another restaurant McAllister yours or wherever Joe Bologna's in the in the election, no matter required no bass. You walk right in. I'm not even gonna mention, you know, Kroger or Lowe's. You know, you walk in there used to be the headline and they were counting people. I haven't seen somebody counting, but I've seen a lot of people on the inside. And you know, the mass, you know, if you want to wear a mask, I'm all for it. If you don't want to wear masks, I'm okay with that too. But, you know, it's 50% maybe it might be a little bit more net and some grocery stores or something like that, but it's just the inconsistency. And then when you you hear a story like that,
Dallas Kelley :wow.
Tim Stout :Kind of makes you think, why not? Why is the Why are the churches in phase so far down the phases? You know,
Fr. Linh Nguyen :there's many claim there is a anti church sim sentimental there,
Unknown Speaker :you know, do you think there is? I believe so. Do you think there's,
Dallas Kelley :you know, you only facts speak for themselves. It seems read the fact you know, But you got these governors who's saying they're Christians? Is that not a necessity? You know, essential, essential? Yeah. Is that non essential and non essential? I call it an essential the worship of God.
Tim Stout :Well, I mean obviously a lot of tension in the world as a result of COVID and then da we have the George Floyd situation up in Minneapolis and then the Briana Taylor situation just down the road here little oval. And, you know, for me, I just, that was my current event that it was a powder keg waiting for a match and in the match got lit. And we couple that with being I will say the word unchurched. I don't know if that's the right word, but away from the church for so long. Away from our normal labs, away from feeling a sense of worth at work. Or what, or at church or whatever you get your sense of worth your, your, your thing that makes you compels you to live your life when you take that strip that away and then you throw a match on a powder keg
Dallas Kelley :explo
Tim Stout :you know, and and I, you know, I don't have the solution, obviously, and I don't think any individuals do but it's a tough time in our world right now. Mm hmm.
Fr. Linh Nguyen :I just came back from a meeting with, with the, you know, church leaders in Scott County with Mayor, Chief the police share of and try to look at what is a possibility of something might blow up. There's little protests here, but very courteous, but very concerned because it Georgetown and Scott County growing so aggressively, right. So with great conversation with sincere how to deal with this because there's so much emotional involved in this, you know, especially from community, African American community, and they feel so lopsided and they want to voice and so it was with great conversation almost, you know, out over an hour conversation.
Tim Stout :So just happened today just today so we helps find some strategy to get into or Yeah, oh, definitely. I, you know, I have got my son's one losing level and one lives in New York City. You know, and, and, you know, worried about him, you know, before I think it was just one of those things that just add something to happen somewhere else. You know, not a big deal but with the with what's happened in global you know, that whole no knock warrant. Something I don't think any of us really heard that word before. But till it happened till it happened, and how in the heck is that legal?
Dallas Kelley :discussing with you today if that happens in my house, I'm gonna get shot. Yeah. Because, no, I'm ready for a break. Yeah,
Tim Stout :no, I mean, that's one of those things, you know, but obviously my kids are grown and out of the house. But you know, we have an open door for them if they want to come you know if they're up in Lexington, visiting friends or whatever, they come by the house and one day one of them didn't call and tell us that they were gonna stay at the house in front door. Oh, was it 130 in the morning? I had to go find Little Joe. But I mean, is that what you call it? But, you know, that's if if if I did something wrong or the police had a wrong wrong house or whatever, they they opened the door and I mean, I just doesn't seem like that can that should be happened in America. So obviously there's racism in America. There's no doubt about that. I mean, you've you've probably experienced it experienced Yes, sir. So yeah. You know, I that's something I probably never will experience. But I recognize As that there is racism in America and it needs to be corrected. And if the no knock wars thing doesn't get fixed, then our politicians are asleep. Because that there's just no way that that should be going on. We've got enough technology today, we can, we can use a thermal camera to see who's in house. We ought to use our tools that we have. And track track people if that's what it you know, it just it just seems to me and I'm a technology guy. So that's the area that I'm gonna focus on. But I just
Unknown Speaker :the world we live in in
Dallas Kelley :crazy, crazy stuff. You know, when I brought up the fact would have, what if there were three children in the bed with them? I mean, it's just incredible. What could worse than it was a young woman dad and stuff.
Tim Stout :That's horrific. And, you know, for the police officer, I feel bad for the police officers. You know, and I don't mean the police officers that were involved in the situations I mean, police officers in general You know, how a system could put somebody, you know, in a position to do that? Because obviously, they did decide, hey, we're gonna go get a warrant, we're gonna go to this house, right? They were told, here's your here's a warrant, we're investigating this person or whatever you're going to this house. I mean, think about I mean, you've got
Unknown Speaker :a woman who lost her life,
Unknown Speaker :you know, a family that's just torn apart.
Tim Stout :And then you've got the other side of it to where you've got all these police officers that were involved in it and they were just they were doing their jobs, whether they did it right or wrong, we'd have that debate. But, you know, they got up one day they went into their briefing room and they said, this is this is your job today. Mm hmm. You know, I just, it's stuff we do need. We need police policing police. I don't think we can. I did see a post about the the thing in Minnesota where you know, your people hear people say, well, the people that saw that happen, it should have stopped it. So your beer, you are getting knocked over lease officer when there's four other cops standing around what's gonna happen to us? You know, in that situation? I mean, you know, it sounds great, but here's what if I would have done that I would have probably got the crap beat out of me by four cops. Right. And or neon in a in in in George may have survived and I may have died or I would have been I've been would have been charged with the felony assault of a police officer, you know, that means it there has to be criminal justice reform there has to be a lot a lot of change in this country. And you know, I didn't live through the 60s and the race riots and those things but this is real and I don't think it's just gonna blow over
Fr. Linh Nguyen :this whole thing I mean, think about it. It's quite interesting. Being the police right now is premier like being a priest. You know, right after the sexual scandal. Just only feel guy who did destructive Cause the entire bodies of research been a mess. And you know, police are facing the same thing. You stay to what you choose to call to become. And you yourself. You know, there's a lot of great police out there right now they're doing that sincerity. Oh, you have a crock yet we do. So therefore, the whole system has to relook just like the church right now. Or look intently on the priest. You know, the whole reformed the whole thing is the same thing. It's still ongoing. It's still ongoing. I mean,
Tim Stout :and I don't think it ever ends. Right. That's, that's the thing. I think the part of our society I think that makes it complicated is we're an instant. We want an instant fix, right? We want to put this problem in the microwave and cook it for 30 seconds and it pops out and it's fixed. It's going to take a whole lot more
Fr. Linh Nguyen :work by the meeting I've made today. You know my word to them. I say, Listen, this whole racism is embedded in our system. But when Talk about it. So all of a sudden we react, I say, Be proactive, and discuss about it. Let's talk more. Yeah,
Tim Stout :you know, this, my Manifesto, and that's, that's, that's one of them. I mean, like I said, you know, like, just like you said, we have to talk, we have to have conversation and it's so anti cultural today to sit and have a conversation with somebody. I mean, like we're talking right here. This just doesn't this is a normal right? In today's culture, this this conversation is called abnormal. It is and it's, that's what's so crazy about it, but you just you multiply that amplify that out through society, you know, with COVID and with what happened to George Floyd and what happened to Briana Taylor and countless other folks that that their names we don't even remember, but we should you get this and it's got to get fixed. You know, it's good to take a good take a strong leader there. I don't think there's a lot of those out there right now. I think it takes term limits. I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna say that's
Dallas Kelley :for another day. It is. But I agree on four terms.
Tim Stout :Yeah. And I just, you know, we got to get money out of politics. I hate to I mean, you know, conservatives don't wouldn't won't agree with me when I say that.
Dallas Kelley :Being a pilot, I really am. Because, you know, Jason's into history my son wrote, and he talks about in the early years of our history, you know, it was a civic duty, you went and did it for a while, and you stopped and you went back to your regular job. Now, it'd be if that's their job, that's for 30 years, you know,
Tim Stout :and then there's, you know, it's just like, you talk about police officers talk about priests, you know, there are some good politicians out there. Yeah. Okay. You know, it's one of the things you just you can't
Fr. Linh Nguyen :paint.
Tim Stout :People with a broad stroke that encompasses everybody in that profession are all democrats are all republicans are all liberals are all because they're all evil. It's not true. We have to get back to what we know we have to have relationships with people. I mean, I'm pretty sure I have a lot of relationships with Democrats and Republicans. And I
Dallas Kelley :have good relationships with Well, me and here. You tell you consider yourself conservative. Am I conservative? Yeah. Do we ever disagree? Absolutely. We still
Unknown Speaker :go out to dinner together.
Fr. Linh Nguyen :But the key I think, the point that that I want to indicate is something quite interesting for me. As a culture we become always seeking to escape Golding, you know, and Jesus, the one that nails escape going into himself, and we constantly live with a blaming reality. We blame politics, we blame Donald Trump, we blame, you know, everybody, but we never blame ourselves. And it's rooted very much in a sinful culture and Everybody have to reexamine that before you blame anything. Look at yourself.
Tim Stout :Cain killed Abel. Exactly. You know, and that to me, you know, that's, you know, we can talk about this forever, we're not going to die. But I've, you know, somebody asked me and we've kind of got me riding and I was gonna do a big Facebook post and I wrote a wallet text. I mean, it's like, big guy said, that's too big of a No way. I'll read that. So I said, I'll make an omelet. They'll have to listen to me. But you know, one of the things I think that that well, they could walk out, thank you. They could, they could, they may. They might, and they may. It depends on who's there. I can already know who would walk out who. But at the end of the day, we have this is just my words. And this is kind of what I'm working for. So I'm hoping the scriptures in three weeks will support a homily in this in this regard to something I think needs to be integrated in our families. But we have to move we have to move who we are What we do what we believe we have to move. I'll leave it at that because if we don't move, there won't be healing in this country
Unknown Speaker :whenever we heal, so
Tim Stout :Wow, that was long current events longest it's ever gone.
Dallas Kelley :Father you got one or do you bring enough time for heaters?
Tim Stout :So Deacon Dallas, how about you? Our guest is here with us. How about you give us an introduction of Mr. Gus Lloyd.
Dallas Kelley :Sure. Well, we have Mr. Gus Lloyd he was raised in the Catholic faith, attending Catholic grade school and then public high school in his teen years Gus fell away from the practices of his faith. After attending international broadcasting school Gus began a career in radio. He married his wife Michelle in 1980. Gus and Michelle are the parents of four children and have been blessed with two grandsons. After five years in radio Gus and his family moved from Florida in 1994, after a near drowning incident with their daughter gusta, Michelle realized that they needed God in their lives. They began attending a non denominational Bible Church and grew in their love for the Lord. Soon after, they began to look into the Catholic Church. After much searching and study, both Gus and Michelle came to realize that the Catholic Church is the one true church founded Matt Christ Jesus. Gus became active in the Catholic charismatic movement and attended the Catholic School of lay evangelization. filling a call to ministry. He produced an album of original Christian music. In 1992. He was asked to join the staff of web VM the Catholic radio station in Tampa, Florida. He hosted a popular morning show there for nearly 13 years. And in 2006, the Archdiocese of New York contacted guests to host the morning show for the Catholic channel. A new venture on Sirius Satellite Radio is been the host of seize the day since you can listen to guest every weekday morning on Sirius XM 129. For the past 20 years guest has been a popular speaker at conferences, retreats and parish Mason's. He speaks on apologetics, evangelization, men's issues, marriage issues and being a Catholic in the world today, along with his radio show, which can be heard. weekday mornings on Sirius 129 Gus published his first book in 2010. Called a minute in the church, a collection of one minute Catholic apologetic teachings. His second book, magnetic Christianity using your God given gifts to build the kingdom, was released in February of 2012. In 2013, Gus released a minute and the church volume to one minute answers to questions about the Catholic faith. In September of 2015, a minute in the church, the mass and a minute in the church life in Christ in January 2017, nearly a million copies of the books in the minute of the church series have been distributed around the world. He also writes his 660 second reflection, a daily meditation on the scriptures. His Catholic apologetic teachings are available on CD or for download at Gus Lloyd calm and they've been heard all around the world. Please join me in welcoming the welcoming Mr. Gus Lloyd and Mr. Gus Lloyd, may I say to you, good morning child of God,
Unknown Speaker :depending on when you're listening to this, I suppose.
Tim Stout :that's a that's a big intro right there.
Unknown Speaker :That was the longest intro I've ever had in my life
Unknown Speaker :was on your website. So
Unknown Speaker :yeah, I gotta update that too, by the way. That's great.
Dallas Kelley :Little while Do you have more grandkids?
Unknown Speaker :No, we still have two grandsons. But I've got five books in the minute the church series now in bed, just a little detail stuff. Anyway. Good morning children of God.
Dallas Kelley :Awesome. Good morning to,
Tim Stout :it's good to have you on the show. You know, I like I told you, before we get started, longtime listener I really, really love the amount of information that that you put out. And really the the one of the first questions that came to my mind when I when Dale said you were gonna be on the show was how did you get all this information? You know, I mean it just because it just, it just flows from you.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, you know, when, when I was when I first decided to come back to the practice of my Catholic faith. Yeah, I had a lot of decisions to make there. You know, there's a lot to learn. There's a lot to learn about our Catholic faith. And I had a lot of questions. And so I just started reading and I just started finding out things answers. And the more I read, I like to put it like this, the more I know, the more I know, I need to know. And so I just kept reading and studying. I did a radio show with Scott Hahn for about five years. And that was pretty amazing, too. So yeah, it's just really been a lifelong love for me to just learn more and more about our beautiful Catholic faith. And like I say, the more I learned, the more I fall in love.
Unknown Speaker :And you're a revert. So the amount of knowledge that you've, you've captured since your reversion that's, that's a lot. I mean, you have something in common with Dallas. Yeah,
Dallas Kelley :even you know, I'm a revert. And we have a similar when I reverted, I had an experience. I started going to a Protestant church myself until I started having all these questions come up. And when I looked for answers, everything, and I mean, everything pointed to the Catholic Church.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, you know, one of the interesting things to Deacon and it's great because I can just say Deacon and I got you guys covered right? Yeah, the nice thing is, is that the church has all the answers, you know? And when you're when you're looking for answers or you're hearing from people that are misinformed or under informed A lot of people don't think that the truth you know that the church is this kind of secret society and we all have this little secret handshake that we have to do and we just kind of believe you know, out of thin air, but the church has all the answers they're all there and they're all very reasonable as well so if you want answers, you can find them out there and they're available. And I can I can honestly say and that just because you hear Okay, I listened to so many people you the Tim staples, the Jimmy Aikens, you know the Who else has
Dallas Kelley :several other you know, the Scott, Heinz, and all those shows Patrick Madrid. And the funny thing is, Patrick Madrid is on the same time you are so I go back and forth, back and forth, depending on the subject matter what's catching me Though, but every one of those guys, I can honestly say I have disagreed with at least something, you know, in a in a daily thing I might disagree with something, you know, and I'm talking about opinion, not doctrine, not doctrine, you know, because we agree all agree on the doctrine, but I have yet to find something I disagree with you on. So, I've always thought that and I thought, well, you need to change your disclaimer, you know, you do that disclaimer, I'm not a theologian, I'm not a bishop, I'm not a priest. And then when you get to a deacon, and now you can say, I'm not a deacon, but I think like one.
Unknown Speaker :Well, I can assure you, Deacon, if you listen long enough, sooner or later will disagree about something I can pretty much assure you that Deacon Dallas tried to
Fr. Linh Nguyen :recruit you. Yeah,
Dallas Kelley :yeah. Yeah. Have you ever thought about being a deacon? Is that ever come?
Unknown Speaker :No, I got to tell you. That is maybe the most common question I get asked. The answer is, it's not my calling. I just, I mean, I know that I've discerned that down through the years and it's It's just not my calling I, you know, I really, really feel like I am doing what God has put me here to do. Aside from my job, of course, my main job of being a husband and a father and a grandfather now. But when it comes to vocation and avocation, I'm right. I'm pretty sure that I'm right where I'm supposed to be. So, you know, the thought of the diaconate has crossed my mind before, but I just it's not. I don't have that calling. And you guys know better than anybody. That's exactly what it is. It's a calling. It's not a job. It's not just something you think that I'll do in my retirement years or something. It's a calling from God. It's a calling from the Holy Spirit. And it's not mine.
Tim Stout :That's interesting. I think a lot of people need to hear that. You know, because that, you know, we were our class. We ordained 2026, I think was 26 and 26. And our class Wow. Yeah. And we're, we're obviously in central Kentucky, very rural. But we started with 3233 In the 40s, I believe, I mean, it was a big, it was a big number. And yeah, you know, I think a lot of people and thank God for the discernment part of it, but I think a lot of people have a lot of misconceptions about you mentioned misconceptions about the church, right. People have misconceptions about the church, they have a lot of misconceptions about what it is to be a deacon. Yeah. ordained in general. Yeah. I mean, it's Yeah, it's not any, it is not an easy calling. Sure.
Unknown Speaker :And, you know, the other thing is to it's not a job. I mean, it's not a it's not even a career. And I think a lot of people have this idea that, especially for priests, you know, for our priests that, Oh, well, that's what you do when you want to have a career like a safe and something kind of career and that's, yeah, it's not right. It's a it's a it's a calling, it's a vocation. It's a so much more and and by the way, I don't know if I've said it to you guys, but I say it on the radio pretty often. I'm a huge fan of the DAC in it. I mean, I have so much respect for you guys and I see what you do. I see the hard work that you do behind The scenes and you know how your ministry is a ministry of service. So hats off and kudos to you guys.
Dallas Kelley :Well, thank you very much. And we can vouch it's not a job because we're still waiting for this gentleman to my left to pay us and
Tim Stout :pay for all of our books. Yeah, that's true. Oh, no. So I thought you froze up there for a second guess so. So talking about dow saying he didn't disagree with anything that you said, mentioned earlier that listened to your show this morning. And you jumped right into controversy. You gave your disclaimer and then you said I'm gonna mention the word Trump.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. It's fraught with peril. You know, and I
Tim Stout :think that's one of the things being Catholic today. That it's controversial on both sides of the issue. And I mean, you've obviously seen a lot in your career you've been you've been in radio a long time. Have you ever seen anything like this before?
Unknown Speaker :Ever? No. Well, I guess it depends on what you mean by like this? Um, no, we've never been so divided as a country. We've never been so divided as a church, we've never been so divided as a people. And, you know, I just see the polarization just getting worse and worse and worse. And, you know, you would like to thank, I mean, you guys remember back to say, 911, you know, when 911 came about, it's kind of like we united if only for a brief time as a country. And, and then all these other things come along, and we have the pandemic and and now we have these riots and whatnot. And it just doesn't seem like there's any unification and there are times when I just got to wonder, Is that a thing of the past? Is that ever going to happen again, and to be quite honest with you, if it doesn't, it's it's very sad. I mean, I think we've reached a reasonably sad point of division in In our country, and I and I really hope that at some point, healing can take place.
Tim Stout :I agree with that. 100% obviously, you're on social media, Twitter and Facebook and all those things. So you see, I see the division in the church, I think more on those platforms than anywhere else, because you've got a bishops and priests that obviously, and you will hate to use labels like conservative and liberal, but they obviously come across that way. But it is just so out there. I mean, you you don't really have to look hard to find it. I mean, if you if you're engaged in your faith, and you're on social media, you're gonna see it and there is a division in the church.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, so I'm just curious. I know this isn't but you know, I'm not supposed to ask the questions here, but it's what I do. So how are you guys? How are you guys feeling about social media because I gotta tell you, I could, I could chuck Facebook and Twitter and all that other stuff tomorrow. And just Be a real happy camper. You know, unfortunately, I think it's part of as, as a media figure, it's kind of part of the whole big makeup that we kind of have to do these days. But man, I'll tell you, it's gotten to the point where, yeah, I could I could toss it by the wayside. In fact, maybe if I'm not called to the diac in it, maybe I should, maybe I should check and see if I'm called to the monastic life, you know, just be a monk and go hide away for a few years.
Dallas Kelley :We agree again, I could chunk it all and your life would be happier. You wouldn't even know how certain people feel about certain things. And I think that's where the the we start getting divided once we know every inner feeling of somebody and yeah, even if I were laying here, he hated Facebook until he needed it. Here, you know what the pandemic and live streaming and stuff. So yeah.
Unknown Speaker :Tell us how you feel about social media fatherly?
Fr. Linh Nguyen :Well, it's just sort of media. I think that the real crux of all of this is that I feel Humanity we we become so alone and we we I sell our cell we love our point of view. And so why don't you behind social media you know the screen you able to to say whatever you want and I think we we lost the ability to have true dialogue conversation the thing that Pope Francis posed the most sit down with each other You can see that you know, you know my Bishop we quite very close to each other we often we have that conversation especially at us ECB meeting and he he said it was the ugliest thing that's so busy in lobbying and they forgot about how to talk with one another. You know, a currently fair you know, situation when Pope Francis called them, you know, or already we repaired to, to have resolution about the sexual scandal. And then no boyfriend said, Don't talk yet. go pray with each other. Don't even pray with each other. And you can see that, you know, the the just quite ugliness itself to why I think we has become so alone, that we rely so much on social media and we lost who on the other side that we talked to. And that that is very tragic for me.
Tim Stout :I think, you know, one of the things I've been working on, I'm not going to call it my Manifesto, but I had an encounter with it with a good friend of mine that basically said that he could not be friends with people that have differing political views, and he does. Wow, regardless of the relationship. You know, and I think, you know, it kind of reminds me and I'm not a huge student of history, but it reminds me of some of what I did research on civil war, right. You had families and against families and that's one of the things that Kind of divided, you know, there's an issue. But they the families obviously knew each other. But they, they put that to the side. And they said, we're gonna focus on this issue that divides us. Regardless of how I feel about you personally, or what I know about you personally, or how I love you, or how you've loved me, have you treated me in my life? I'm gonna forget about that. And I think today in today's world, I think it's so much easier with social media to draw that to put that wall up and just walk away because we don't talk to each other. I mean, that's the bottom line. We don't talk to each other.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, and I think one thing for me too, is that I find that social media emboldens people to say things that they would never say to another human beings face, you know, and, and really, there's kind of something wrong with that. If you if you feel like because it's easy to be a keyboard warrior, but when you're in front of somebody, and you can look them in the eye and that's the one thing if I if I could just switch gears here briefly. sure about the whole Coronavirus thing that really breaks my heart the most. You know, I'm a very tactile person, I'd love to shake hands. I'd love to hug. I'd love to slap people on the back. I'm just, you know, kind of physical like that. And I longed for that to come back. You know, I hope those days we'll come back again very, very soon. But that's the thing about social media is that it just emboldened people, I think to not be their best selves. And look, I freely admit as well I fall prey to that, just like everybody else does.
Tim Stout :And we, we had, one of the things we talked about last week on our show, we talked about we talk about scriptures and how you can look at scripture in a comma in on one word, we were trying to think about the
Dallas Kelley :thief on the cross. Yeah. Let me think about it. Say, I say to you today, you will be in me be with me in paradise. It depends where you put the comma. Today I say to you, comma, you will be with me in paradise or today, I say karma today. You will be with me, you see what I'm saying? Yeah, one comma can change the whole meaning of Scripture. Sure. And when you extrapolate that out to social media where we, we don't even use punctuation correctly,
Tim Stout :anyway. I mean, it just explodes it and it just, it makes everything it makes it unperceivable. Right? You're not really talking to people. You're just, you're just looking at an idea that's, that happens to be little little bites on a screen. And that's what you're interacting with. And we've lost the ability to communicate and that's one of things I do like about your show is, you open the lines up and you actually are able to talk to people and I think I get the impression that you enjoy that part of the show.
Unknown Speaker :I do I most certainly do that. You know, in fact, when we were doing the Coronavirus thing, I was recording the show for about two months. And so I you know, I would record the show each day and then play the show the next day because we weren't our studios in New York. We weren't didn't have people that were there. So I couldn't do the show live and actually talk to people on the phones. Man, when I was able to come back and actually engage my listeners again, it was like the heavens opened up for me it was so great.
Tim Stout :I mean, it makes it interesting, right? I mean, we talked about that about, you know, interacting with our our parishioners, you're obviously on a national scale. But it's something that that I think people want to do that too. I think people, people realize that. And I'm going to say evil, the evil in social media. And I don't mean that with a capital E. And obviously, I mean it with a with a smiley, but I think people realize more than we think they do. That we need to we need to converse with people, and we just had to figure out how to do it. And I don't have any of the answers. I wish I did not probably be a rich man.
Fr. Linh Nguyen :Changes subject does. In your experience as as apologetic, try to evangelize the good news of the church. I'm sure you encounter plenty of opposition. How do you maintain the collectiveness the communists that spear charity, if you will, in those conversation.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, thanks for asking that Father, I my approach to apologetics has always been this, I'm going to tell you the truth. And I'm just going to lay it out there for you. You don't have to believe it. You don't have to leave with a say. But it is incumbent upon me to speak truth. And from there, you whoever that person is, you get to choose, you get to choose what you're going to do with that. Whatever you want to do with it is is fine with me. I would love to say, Look, I'm a great believer that I think every every human being should be Catholic. I think every person on planet earth should be Catholic, because I believe with every fiber of my being that the Catholic Church is the one true church founded by Jesus Christ, for the salvation of mankind. So as a Catholic, why wouldn't I want everybody to be Catholic, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna force myself on anyone. And so I just present the facts. give people the facts I try to let them know. Hey, you may be you may have misunderstood this, you may have heard some false things here or there. But once I present it, I just let it go and and let the Holy Spirit do what the Holy Spirit is going to do. So I think that's, that's always been my approach and it's been okay I'm gonna stick with it
Unknown Speaker :sounds good. Oh, man. ever get really frustrated though?
Unknown Speaker :No, come on
Unknown Speaker :my radio show every day.
Tim Stout :I think let's see this morning. I think it took one caller did it. It was the first caller. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, I forget what her name was. But, you know, she obviously disagreed with with what you said and couldn't believe that you you said what you said about obviously with Trump visited two churches, pretty controversial. Both both of them controversial. And I agree 100% with what you said, and I was thinking how am I misunderstand what this woman is saying? I mean, it just it's hard for me to go Ras that people actually think that that the President of the United States is perfect.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, I don't know that. I don't know that I would say that anybody necessarily thinks he's perfect. But I'll tell you, I think that we have come to a point now, where, again, it's part of the polarization that we're seeing in our country in our church, you know, just all over the place, is that if many people have this idea, if you don't agree with me, then you're my enemy. You're not on my side, even if it's just on one tangential issue. It's like you have to, you know, you have to agree with with everybody about everything, which of course is never going to happen. And I think that's a very sad thing. And one of the things that I've always tried to make very clear on my radio show, is that we can disagree, we can have disagreements, and we can still love each other and go our separate ways, with no hard feelings. And unfortunately, I think that's that's becoming a lost art and and that's sad. I think that's a very sad commentary. I agree.
Dallas Kelley :But I don't remember any, it just seems like with this politician, you have such a large group that Trump can do no wrong. And then you got the other side he can do no. Right. Yeah, you know, and there's very few in between, you know, but I agreed with you today. The first, the first one I thought was a photo op, though, you know, the walking across the street. I mean, even if we disagree, it's not, you know, we're not disagreeing on whether murder is right or wrong, you know, yeah, it's just not that big of a thing, you know, venomous about but yeah,
Unknown Speaker :and one of the things too, that that you know, that that I kind of got on the social media thing was people are saying, oh, you're not pro life. Wait a minute, I'm not pro life because I didn't agree with you know, the with what the the method that the President used to do this photo op thing. So that makes me not pro life. These are the kind of the, you know, these these extremes that people are going to manage We got to get off that we really do. I'm really an advocate for critical thinking, you know, let's let's critically think through these things, shall we?
Tim Stout :And then the pro the pro life thing is is one of the biggest the biggest things that I think people make it one issue right? They make pro life abortion pro life is so much more than that. But nobody ever talks about that. Especially the ones that are that are. I look I'm as conservative as can be nice guy. So vouch for that. I'm very good. I live in rural Kentucky, I have to be conservative. Right. But, you know, to sit there and say that that being pro life is just about the abortion issue is flat out wrong. And if you can have a conversation about the other parts of it sure abortion is it is huge way up there. Yeah, the numbers are staggering, and it's harder. It's I think it's at this point, it's hard for us to really fathom how big of an impact it's had on on our and I'm not talking from a religious perspective, I'm talking about on the impact of our society and what it was hosta society is you know, how many Einsteins, how many good politicians how many Henry Clay's right. You know, Henry cloud was from Kentucky, the great compromiser something that, that our politics really need in today's world, how many diseases were being cured, you know, you know, so from a not a religious perspective, but from a societal perspective. We just can't we can't quantify anymore. I mean 70,000,070 million, I think it's just, it's a it's a big number. So I don't want to minimize that. But there's so much more to pro life that that we're losing the battle because we're not having the conversation. And that's, that's my opinion anyway,
Fr. Linh Nguyen :but what Gus says very true the idea when we lose the ability to have critical thinking, our thinking based on our feeling as dangerous right. So therefore, you know, even the the issue the pro life sometime both sigh operate based on the feeling and so We can have a sit down has a professional, critical conversation, you know the issues of what we learned the time of even Thomas Aquinas, you know, his apologetic very, it's conversational, and explore towards the truth. And when we don't do that, and that's what happened. Because like I say back to the issue of social media, that's all it is. And it's about with psi, screamed the loudest.
Unknown Speaker :We don't yell.
Fr. Linh Nguyen :I preach to the maritime with the kids. I say, God gave us two ears to listen, one mouth to speak in our will. You have to listen twice as much as you speak. We don't do that right now, unfortunately. So that's what we are.
Tim Stout :Well, let's change the subject just a little bit. We've killed the social media thing. I was hoping we were talking about Coronavirus and then we had a bunch of riots. But Coronavirus obviously impacted you and your parish toasts. Tell us about how you're Parrish stopped live. And I'm assuming they went live streaming and all that. And I realized that this weekend, you said on the show that your first time back for mass and Holy Communion in 10 weeks, right?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. Yeah, I tell you.
Unknown Speaker :I it's been heartbreaking. And my parishes just like every other Parish, I think anyway, in that. I mean, there may be small pockets of the country that didn't shut down, but I think most places shut down for a couple of months. And so it was, it was really heartbreaking. I remember the first time I watched mass on a live stream. It's the first time I hadn't been to mass in, I don't know, maybe three years or so. And I cried, I just started weeping out of this sense of longing to be there, as I'm watching my pastor on on our TV screen. And I just thought to myself, there's something wrong here. This is this is just not right. I understand about The principle of doing spiritual communion and having a Eucharistic fast and yada, yada, yada. But I gotta tell you, from the bottom of my heart, my soul was longing to receive Jesus body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Holy Eucharist. So that time away. You know, they say the old saying absence makes the heart grow fonder. It really did for me, and I hope it did for everybody. I've been a little bit concerned about how this is all going to shake out in the end, you know whether people are just going to be comfortable sitting in their houses and watching mass on a live stream and kind of shrug their shoulders and go, Yeah, I don't really need to go to Mass do I mean I could watch it here? The answer is yes, you do. You really do need to go to Mass. Now I understand that there will be situations where people cannot go to Mass should not go to Mass, right. But for the vast majority of folks, we need that we need that not just the commune a tea, but we need to commune young as well we need To receive our spiritual nourishment Jesus, present body Blood, Soul and Divinity in the blessing Euchre. So, I'm ecstatic to be back, we're still under all kinds of restrictions, just like everybody else, you know, chains on some of the pews where you can't go in and, and all those things. But you know, I said on my radio show the other day, none of that matters to me, you know, I'd walk across broken broken glass on hot coals to get myself to the Eucharist, if that's what they're going to force me to do. So, I'm so happy that at least we're back now and I hope that in short order, things will be back to normal, whatever that is. Amen.
Tim Stout :Amen. Amen. You're into the Archdiocese of our diocese of Tampa
Unknown Speaker :Diocese of St. Petersburg, Florida.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. Who's your Bishop?
Unknown Speaker :Bishop Gregory Parkes little piece of information here. He's the tallest Bishop in America, if not the world. How tall is he? I think he's, I think he's either six, seven or six, eight. Wow. So when he puts his miter on, he's like 11 feet tall.
Unknown Speaker :If you want to look if you want to find my Bishop just look up you'll find
Tim Stout :so no drive by no drive back communion anywhere.
Unknown Speaker :No, we didn't do that. I don't know that any parishes in my diocese did that. We did. I did do I have up confession where you know that I had to, I had to drive up, get out of my car, go to a tent because it was all outdoors and I sat across about a 10 foot table from father who heard my confession and gave me absolution and and that was a few weeks before we went back to mass. So that was interesting, but you know, hey, it was okay by me.
Tim Stout :The sacraments that's what, that's what it's all about is the man Amen. Brother and
Unknown Speaker :I agree with you. Yes.
Tim Stout :I think it's gonna be interesting to play out for us. We're a minority Catholics are a minority in this diocese. I think it's less than 3% that had That number I think it's less than 3% Catholic and assessees second largest landmass diocese in the country is Washington. But we pick up all the Appalachian Mountains. So it's very rural. A lot of unchurched father spent some time in the mountains when you're first parishes, I think. Right. So it's, it's a different world here. But I think that i think that's going to impact us negatively, because so many of our Protestant brothers and sisters, their mass, their mass, there's their celebration, their service didn't really change, right. I mean, yeah, whether they're there or not there. And so that's, I think that's one of the things that we talked about reopening that we had a lot of a lot of discussion about how we were going to do things because we're Catholics. You know, we're having mass outdoors. We haven't opened up indoors yet, but we're lucky enough to have a big facility here that we just purchased. Last week was our first match with 200 50 people there. This week we had one mass 450 people. So I hope that that trend continues. But I'm worried that people are gonna be like their neighbor who was a Protestant said, Hey, just stay home and watch it on TV.
Unknown Speaker :Yeah. So yeah, I hope that doesn't happen too. I hope that that happened because made the heart grow fonder for everybody. And, you know, one of the things too, that I think we need to do as, as a Catholic apologist, and as deacons and a priest, I think it's very important for us to teach the people the the difference, the importance of the Eucharist, and how vital the Eucharist is, to us. It's the source and summit of our faith, and that we can't just shrug that off, you know, we can't just say, Oh, it's no big deal. I can, I can watch mass on television or whatever. And again, aside from the the normal dispensations of people who can't, for whatever reason, make it to mass. It's very important for us, I think to let people know the difference, we're not just any other church, we don't just get together to sing songs and hear a message or anything like that we come to receive Jesus. That's the big deal. That's a big difference. And that was one of the reasons why I was really upset about some of the restrictions that some governors and politicians were trying to put on the church. When we were talking about going back to church about not being able to, you know, first of all, only being able to have 10 people in a cathedral that fits thousands of people come on, really. And then there was another situation in Delaware where, or I'm sorry, in Maryland, I believe, Delaware and Maryland, where the the authority said, well, you can go to church, but you can't do this communion thing. Well as Catholics, that's what we do. And and it's so important for us. And that's why I think it's just vital for us to get that message out there. But what it's really all about,
Fr. Linh Nguyen :well, I totally agree with you on that. I think the opposite tunity even in your campus and we, it we have to capitalize it opportunities for evangelization and recategorize our people, you know, I myself, we have a lot great parishioner that really longing for the Eucharist. And they come up with a lot of interesting from the prospect influence. Like, they come with little packages, you know, the little grape juice and then the little wave on top in one package. And they told me we can do this. I say, communion is not bad. Right, you know, great conversation in that regard. You know, they come up with good intention, but extremely disrespect, if you will, in the sanctity of the sacred host. And we have at least six or seven good conversation without parishioner over why we do what we do. We set us apart and it like It's a it's a good opportunity, you know, for us to really capitalize this opportunity to really talk about it.
Unknown Speaker :So your, your, your work is gonna pick up because you're gonna hear more people calling you that.
Unknown Speaker :That's fine. I tell you, I just I love what I do. And you know, as listeners, I hope you I hope you hear every day. I love what I do. You know, like everybody I have, you know, good days and some not so good days, but every single day, I am just so thankful that God has given me the opportunity. You know, part of my story is I when I was a little kid, I knew that I wanted to be on the radio. And so I got into the radio business when I was 19 years old. So here I am almost 60 years old now. And I'm a guy that's just doing what I wanted to do ever since I was a little kid, and I get to do it for Jesus. Why does it get any better than that? No way. God, it really does. Yeah,
Dallas Kelley :changing. Let's change a little bit. I wanted to touch on this before we signed off it would brought it up as we have an hour hour and man Deacon ourself who I can't believe what it took to be an hour an errand man. And one of the best series of shows I think you did was when you was on the Camino walk the way What was I couldn't I couldn't walk two miles, much less. I mean, I was it. I just wanted to get your what you thought what was that experience like walking and broadcast? And while you're doing it?
Unknown Speaker :Yeah, that was I tell you that was, for lack of a better word. It was just magical. It really was. So how it is that the Camino de Santiago, which is a walk through the whole northern part of Spain, one end to the other. It's about 480 miles. We didn't do the entire 480 miles but we did the lion's share of it. And it took us two years. We had to break it up over two years. I gotta tell you, it was a it was such a blessing to be able to spend because you spend just a lot of time out in nature. I mean, we walked about 15 miles a day, day after day after day, all kinds of conditions. Mountains, deserts, rain forests and the commuting that you have with nature with God. And with God's people. There is nothing like it, absolutely nothing like it. And if anybody can ever get the opportunity to maybe even do like a week on the Camino, a lot of folks will go and they'll just do the last hundred kilometers, which is about 62 miles. And if you take about five to seven days to do it, it's not really all that difficult. But boy, I'll tell you, if you can do it. It is something that you'll never forget. It's a very life changing event and I just, I'm gonna go back, I'm gonna go back. I'm going to do it again
Dallas Kelley :someday. But your wife, your wife went to write she went when
Unknown Speaker :she did. I did the first half might with a group of people Michelle at the time, she had two really bad knees. She had two knee replacements inside of a year. And within about eight months after her second knee replacement, she walked the second half of the Camino with us. Yeah, so she she is an inspiration. Trooper.
Unknown Speaker :A real trooper.
Unknown Speaker :You yeah
Tim Stout :i was uh i was gonna bring up a man thing that sounds like a lot harder to the beta and Iron Man. I'm just saying I
Dallas Kelley :don't know if you picture an Iron Man it's swim what? you swim two and a half miles. All right? You are you
Unknown Speaker :an Iron Man Deacon tip? Yes.
Dallas Kelley :He's an Ironman swim two and a half miles. Ride a bike 100 miles and run a marathon. You're credible. I can't even
Tim Stout :I was like you say yeah, I've run a marathon. That's like, cool.
Unknown Speaker :You guys, man. You Iron Man. So I've I've been a marathon done. I've done dozens of marathons. I've I've done a 50 miler. Oh wow, I've done ultra I've done ultra marathons as well. But you Iron Men, man, you guys are a breed apart. I just I love you. But you know, it's mental. Right? I mean, it's it's
Tim Stout :all it is all and yes, you know, trying to convince people that how, how capable The human body is. They just, they just don't do it. They just don't grasp it. And you know that that's I was talking to somebody lunch about it today that, that training. And I've always said that exercise for me is is the best form of prayer because, you know, you're out there and you're in the elements and it's sometimes it's too hot. Sometimes it's too cold. You know, it's light, it's dark, you're training your mind to overcome it telling you to stop. Right? And that discipline to me being a Catholic, it just kind of it kind of gels together. It makes it it makes my made my face stronger. I know it did. But it made my mind much stronger to just in everyday life. And at the same time I was going through the day and it too, so. So I was going through formation. I was training because I lost a lot of weight. great experience. You ultra marathoners though, that I'm not a runner. I was a cyclist. Yeah. 26 miles is all I want. I cannot imagine the ultras.
Unknown Speaker :Well, it's funny too, because I my knees are kind of getting shot now and I've taken up cycling. So we got that going. We got that going for us as well. It's a
Tim Stout :great sport. I always like to say the difference between running and cycling when when you're cycling, the best part of cycling is all of it. And the worst part of running is all of it.
Unknown Speaker :Not not too far off the mark there. Oh, no, I miss I don't really run anymore. I missed my running days. But you know, funny thing too, just real quick. I cycle once a week we do a long ride once a week and with a priest friend of mine. He was he had a later in life vocation. He was ordained at the age of 59 or 60. I think. And, and so he was a priest at my parish. I found out that he was a cyclist. I said, Hey, you want to go ride together? And we've been riding together for almost four years now. Wow.
Unknown Speaker :That's good. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. I mean, that's what that's what got me random. A parishioner. A fellow parishioner asked me one day Hey, you want to want to ride a bike? I'm like, I'll try, you know, and it was it's been almost nine years again $20,000 later.
Unknown Speaker :She's not
Tim Stout :supposed to say that. You know, my wife watches good stuff. So guys, we'd love We love having you on the show. Thanks for joining us. Would you like to come back sometime?
Unknown Speaker :But you just say the word man, I had a great time. And as I say, I love deacons. I love you guys. You guys are doing a great work. And I appreciate you using this kind of media to to get the word out
Tim Stout :there. It's it's new for us. We this is this is our 11th 11th show, which it started with the pandemic and I think we're enjoying it, we enjoying it. It's, it's challenging it. And I'm sure, you know, doing a radio show every day. That's a lot of work. I mean, we just do this once a week. And I know how much work this is. That's a lot of work. I mean, I just can't imagine it. So maybe next time we can talk about how you how you do that what your workflow is because That's a very I'm an engineer too. So it's very interesting to me. So
Unknown Speaker :sure, well let me know. God bless you guys, and thanks for having me. It's been truly a privilege.
Dallas Kelley :It's an honor. Gus. Thanks, guys. It's an honor God.
Tim Stout :God bless you.
Unknown Speaker :All right, bless you too. Bye. Bye bye.
Unknown Speaker :Wow, great guest
Dallas Kelley :Yes, that was it was an honor and I will use the word hero but to see it Yeah, I love that man.
Tim Stout :Man crush I have
Dallas Kelley :a man crush on.
Tim Stout :Well, he's a good one to have a bankruptcy.
Dallas Kelley :And I recommend anybody out there and try it. If you got if you got satellite radio tune into him in the morning at 730 to 1030. And if you don't go get satellite radio, you can get it for 599 a month super cheap. And that's a fantastic show to listen to. It is
Tim Stout :his series admitted in the church. I've actually read he says he has five or six.
Dallas Kelley :Yeah, we might be able to do that. You know, we hand out a book. That'd be a fantastic one
Unknown Speaker :to hand out your dollar. They cost $1 I bet they're cheaper than Matthew Kelly's books. And Matthew Kelly, if you're listening, we'd love to have which Oh, yeah.
Tim Stout :But I mean, they're with a really good book size the answer The answer questions very quick, just kind of like his, his his minute reflections that he does. You know, I like that. I think that, that in today's culture, where we're so consumed with things pulling us in different directions, that quick shot stuff, I think is really good. So
Dallas Kelley :and people can, it helps them learn their faith. And when people ask them questions, why don't y'all do this? I mean, get the book out. Look it up. Yeah, no.
Tim Stout :Oh, yeah. I really enjoy his editors. A lot of Bishops. I'm sure there's a scene there's a feature but you know, that might be something we look at one. Yeah, he was supposed
Dallas Kelley :to get YouTube videos of tuning and trying to find him on YouTube. Yeah. And he's
Tim Stout :supposed to be him and his wife were supposed to be on a trip this week. I mean they got obviously they got canceled things supposed to be in Europe somewhere or something holy land I can't remember what it was he talked about on the radio but just a just a great guy and I can't wait to have him back because I think
Unknown Speaker :he's just a good guy.
Tim Stout :And that might even be better if we can get out of this Coronavirus person though. Maybe we should pray to today's saint for some intercession Get us out at Coronavirus I don't know if same St. Boniface what's the patron saint of Dino?
Unknown Speaker :b i like i like guys like beer. I'm sure you do. Well doesn't have a
Dallas Kelley :whole section in St. Manners if you get lost at
Unknown Speaker :St. Barnabas. I don't know but let's listen to the saying of the day and while that's playing, I'll look it up.
Unknown Speaker :Here it is.
Unknown Speaker :This is Franciscan media saint of the day for June 5. Today we celebrate St. Barnabas. Barnabas was an English Benedictine. monk, but he devoted his life to the conversion of Germanic tribes. When he made his first missionary journey to Germany in 719. At the request of Pope Gregory the second bonobo saw that his work was cut out for him what Christianity he did find either had lapsed into paganism or was mixed with error. In many instances, the problems he uncovered were rooted in uneducated lacks, and even disobedient clergy. After reporting these conditions to the Holy Father, Barnabas was instructed to reform the German church, he was finally made a regional Bishop and authorized to organize the whole German church. In these tasks. He was guided by two principles to restore the clergies obedience to their bishops in union with the Pope and to establish houses of prayer, which took the form of Benedict in monasteries. Barnabas was eminently successful in much of the country. But in some areas, he encountered great problems during a final mission among the people. Living in what is now the northern part of the Netherlands, he was massacred in 754, along with 53 companions, while they were preparing converts for confirmation. There's more about the saints along with inspiration and Catholic resources at our website, Saint of the day.org. From Franciscan media, this has been st of the day.
Tim Stout :St. Barnabas pay might be my new favorite one patron saint of brewers. Right, I told
Fr. Linh Nguyen :you
Tim Stout :he actually just looking real quick. He actually shares that title with St a Gustin of hippo. It's also the patron saint of brewers, St. Arnold of Mets and St. Barbara. And the reason wise, this is what it says here. This is St. St. Boniface brewing calm. Brewing Company st month is very heavily vetted that was that the the daily drink of the people was beer because the waters we're probably had to drink beer. Who says the dark ages are so dark? was a dark beer. That's how we came with dark beer. Right. There you go. Great show today, guys. So next week, we don't have a guest lined out. So we'll think of one. Or, you know, I put a poll up on Facebook. I don't you probably didn't know that. I don't know if you saw it or not. I saw it. You saw vote. Who do you want on the show parishioners or outside outside national folks, you could vote for both. Kelly told me what she did. She voted for both.
Unknown Speaker :But the last time I checked, parishioners was leading substantial Yeah. 72%
Fr. Linh Nguyen :I don't know 27 or something. Yeah.
Tim Stout :So in two weeks, we do have a parishioner. Dan Elliot, joined us in two weeks. We've got some ideas on some parishioners based on what we know. But obviously our our fellow parishioners know a lot about their fellow parishioners. So if you have somebody that has you think has an interest story or interesting life, face story, vocation job, because we talk about ordinary people, ordinary people. So let us know and we'll, we'll talk to them, see if they want to be on and if you want to be on, you can let us know too. You can nominate yourself. That's that's good thing because, you know, at the end of the day, that's what the shows about is is dialogue. It's right up there discussions. We'd like to have discussions, and we'd like to drink a little bit. And we're all three deacons to
Fr. Linh Nguyen :mainly discussion,
Tim Stout :discussion, I suppose is more on discussion I was thinking about almost brought. I know Dallas doesn't like bourbon. I think other people here might like bourbon.
Unknown Speaker :I was thinking that
Dallas Kelley :me out there like bourbon,
Tim Stout :there might be a lot of people out there. So I was thinking maybe that'd be a good way to get some folks on the show. If I could create crack open some some of the Bourbons a collection, and start to bring in some good stuff that might be a way to spring into action. So hey, if you're listening on Facebook and YouTube, make sure you hit the like and subscribe button. And if you're listening on podcast, Apple Spotify, we thank you for that. Just keep, if you're listening just happened on to the show. You'd like what you hear, please subscribe. We'd like those downloads. And as I said before, if you want to support our ministry ss fj.org it's sfj.org also want to announce we're looking for volunteers who would like to help us with this podcast and and really, our whole social media efforts because, you know, as we talked about with Gus, it is it is an important part of our evangelization now, you kind of follow you kind of got thrust into it with Oh pandemic and everything and you know, we were kind of dabbling in it, but you know, it's just it's a way it's a way to
Fr. Linh Nguyen :improve You know,
Tim Stout :so what I've, what I've learned over the last couple weeks with the show is that it's complicated. There's a lot of stuff out there so if you have experience with certain third third party tools like to buddy or by Dick, Hootsuite lumely or buffer just to name a few we want to hear from you. You can send me an email directly at t stout at CD Lex. org. It's t stout at cd lex.org. Let us know if you're interested in you've got some of those skills. We're going to put together social social media committee here at the parish, church, school card home all that wrote together, see if we can help each other, evangelize and spread the gospel. So tell your friends give us a listen spread the word about this show. Comments are not only necessary, but they are encouraged.
Unknown Speaker :Who's got the blessing tonight.
Dallas Kelley :This is a short one but just as effective as me As we celebrate the Trinity this weekend, Megan, the God the Father, God, the Holy Spirit Bless you, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Amen. And until next week, I'm making Tim. I'm making Dallas killing I'm Father man.
Unknown Speaker :Bye everybody. Eye.
Unknown Speaker :Did you ever stop and think why spend too much time getting ready
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