Behind the Curtain of Growth NOW Movement with Justin Schenck

When you cross paths with a podcasting titan like Justin Schenck, you know the conversation is going to leave a mark.  His journey to 500 episodes with The Growth Now Movement Podcast is nothing short of legendary, and I'm thrilled to share the microphone with him, discussing the sheer perseverance it takes to create a legacy in the podcasting world.  From the life-changing impact on a listener in Japan to the unique insights of each episode, Justin's story is a testament to the power of dedicated content creation and its ripple effects across the globe.

Life's roller coaster of challenges and triumphs hits close to home as he shares stories of personal hardship and the transformative role of gratitude.  "My own history with my mother's opioid battle underscores this ethos, and it's these narratives of resilience that shape our mindset and actions." explains Justin. 

A chance encounter with Fabio Viviani spins into a memorable lesson on authenticity, cementing the idea that life's unexpected turns can bring about the most rewarding connections.  As we close, we reflect on the importance of aligning with our values, the wisdom gained from mentorship, and the unfailing support of community that propels us forward. Join us for a conversation that's as enriching as it is enlightening, and remember, new episodes light up every Thursday at 7pm.
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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:33

From real estate to real life and everything in between the Brad Wiseman show and now your host.

Speaker 2 0:41

Brad Wiseman. All right, we are back. I cannot get used to that guy's voice. He just has an amazing voice. He really does. It's incredible. I have an amazing special guest right here with me today and this guy has been doing podcasts for a very long time. He now. What caught my mind, or caught my attention, was he's now over 500 podcasts, and you might know him. He's from Berks County. His name is Justin Shank. Justin, how are you?

Speaker 1 1:08

doing Dude. I'm doing great. This is amazing. Thank you so much for having me on.

Speaker 2 1:12

Oh, it's just great to have you here.

Speaker 1 1:13

We mentioned before, we have record. You're at 100 something episodes 150.

Speaker 2 1:17

157. Huge win.

Speaker 1 1:19

Huge win and tell me the statistic that I couldn't believe. Yeah, so seven, I think it's 78% of podcasts Don't make it past the first seven episodes, and so when I reached 500, I was like, well, how many people do that? And it's like less than 4%.

Speaker 2 1:31

Less than 4%. It's amazing and I think what it is is. People see it sometimes and go oh.

Speaker 1 1:36

I could do that.

Speaker 2 1:37

Right, I can do this. This is just a podcast. What's the big deal? But no, I appreciate for being here. You have been all over, you have interviewed 500 people and I've looked at a lot of the people that you've interviewed and these are not. These are big players in the motivational entrepreneurial business owners, ceos, I mean restaurant owners. I mean the guy was just on recently was Fabio right? Yep, yeah he was incredible.

Speaker 1 2:04

So he's an amazing person. He was on that show, Top Chef, which was a huge show, and he's been on like beat Bobby Flay and all these things and it's funny. I went to an event in Ohio where he was speaking and I literally said, who cares about a chef? Like I had no idea who he was.

Speaker 2 2:19

I don't watch reality TV, but now I've had. Should we cut that part out when he listens?

Speaker 1 2:23

to this. Oh no, he knows, he knows, he knows the story, Just making sure.

Speaker 2 2:27

I didn't want to, you know, get any.

Speaker 1 2:28

I know he's a friend of yours, so he spoke at my event in 2019 and I introduced him this way, and I was like who cares about a chef? Yeah, and he spoke and I turned to my friend, who you know Zach. Bugei, who was there with me, and I turned to him and I go, dude, I need to be friends with that guy. Yeah, and a year and a half later he came on the show. We've become friends over the last couple of years and just a really good guy.

Speaker 2 2:46

Yeah, you're doing some incredible stuff. You know, I've listened to a bunch of things this morning and I've listened to stuff over the over the years. Yeah, so you've been doing this for how long?

Speaker 1 2:55

So coming up on eight years. So early next year it'll be eight years, which is unbelievable and it's so funny. I've had a ton of accolades like over three million downloads and all these really cool things, but for me, three million downloads- yeah, that's a lot of people.

Speaker 2 3:11

It's wild, it's wild, that's a lot of people.

Speaker 1 3:13

Yeah, and so like we get played in a hundred countries every single week, which really blows my mind. But for me the big accolade is the fact that I showed up consistently for eight years you know good for you. Yeah, Thank you.

Speaker 2 3:26

We're glad you did, because you're here's the thing You're offering. You're offering content, information and things that maybe somebody wouldn't get if you weren't doing it. Yeah, you know, because we can all. There's a gazillion podcasts out there. Ed Milette, who I love and has been on your show, he says you know, it's funny how there's when it first, when podcasting first started out, when he first got into, there were six million podcasters out there. Okay, different podcasts. He said now there's 60 million podcasts. So he, when he first started getting into it, he was like oh, I don't know if I want to get into. This is already six million. Now there's 60 million. Yeah, so it just shows you. You know you're showing up and but people look to you for certain content and a certain conversation and maybe not everybody gets the same conversation from me. They get it different from you. You know we all. There's no new ideas. Yeah, it's just, it's about how you, how you put it out there there are no new ideas right, no, no idea.

Speaker 1 4:18

Most self-help books are regurgitated, reworded, absolutely, and I think there's a statistic in the world that, at any given time, there are 75,000 people that need to hear your message specifically from you, isn't?

Speaker 2 4:27

that something.

Speaker 1 4:28

And so I think that also keeps kind of the drive going right, Cause it's a lot of work and you know that, absolutely yeah. But that keeps the drive going of like I have to keep showing up. I remember early on in the game not many people were listening to the show 35, 45 downloads and episodes, yeah, and I was like, what am I doing? And I think I was around episode 40 something and I was like why do I keep doing? This is a lot of work, I mean. I love the conversation but, what am I doing? And somebody from Japan reached out to me and said because of your show, I decided not to take my life, Whoa.

Speaker 2 4:54

I just got chills, just got chills.

Speaker 1 4:56

And so from that moment on I was like I'll show up, even if one person's listening, and hence the consistency of showing up every week. Now I starting last year and I'm doing again this year. I take off December partially for my sanity, but I also saw some statistical wins when I did it last year. So I was like, okay, I'll do it again and see what happens. But I've been pretty consistent for the eight years. Every Tuesday I'll release an episode.

Speaker 2 5:18

You know, and sometimes when you take off, people will hunger for it. You know, I mean is that you know, mean they're, they get hungry for? Whereas if you do it so consistently all the time, he goes like, yeah, why don't we have an off? But if you do it consistently all the time, when ends up happening is there's no hunger for it anymore, correct, yeah, so yeah, and here's the thing right every single week in episode drops, somebody gets an alert what did you say? It is so we can Every Tuesday every.

Speaker 1 5:41

Tuesday certain time that drops, so it used to be 3 am. I just shifted to 5 am Because I was reading some statistics about how that's the time no right that down.

Speaker 3 5:50

What is the show called, though? What is your? Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 5:52

I know because.

Speaker 3 5:52

I've been wondering all this time.

Speaker 2 5:54

No, we're not gonna tell you. It's gonna be a secret for everybody. Yeah, check the show notes.

Speaker 1 5:59

But no, it's, it's called the growth now movement. Yeah, and so it's. We talk about growth, but we talk about all areas of life and, like you mentioned, I mean I have such a scope of guests and so my job is, like you, right to filter it into growth in some way, shape or form, like I've had Bert Kreicher, who's a comedian, has multiple Netflix specials he's been on, and I think the same week I interviewed Ed Milette and a guy named Andy for sell. In a couple weeks after that I interviewed Ricky Williams, who's a bowl running back, yep, and so how do I Filter this into an audience that might not a know who these people are or be like, really care about their message?

Speaker 2 6:31

Yeah, we look at my story. Right, there's a story. Yeah, everybody has a story.

Speaker 1 6:35

Everybody has a story yeah and so many people hear certain different types of stories and I go well, my story doesn't amount to that or my story is not that horrific, or whatever, but the reality is people need to hear your message. I mean, I just mentioned earlier the statistic of that, and so it's. It's really about showing up as Consistently as possible for yourself and and hopes that you can then turn that into Something.

Speaker 2 6:55

Yeah, to make an impact absolutely no, I agree with that a percent. You can tell he's pretty good. Have you ever tried doing a podcast? You can tell I'm lousy out. I still didn't even tell the name of the podcast until halfway through. Yeah, I feel like an Oprah moment there, right, you know just how do we hook them in? Well, that's what I normally do. I don't tell people what you do, I just say introduce the person and then later on they just, they want the information for sure. When it is yeah, so what did you do before this that you do? You know, I don't think, let me just get, let me, I'm gonna guess you weren't in 11th grade going I want to be a podcast star, they well, there probably wasn't a podcast then yeah, yeah, it didn't exactly.

Challenges, Gratitude, and Navigating Life

Speaker 1 7:32

I do. When I started podcasting eight years ago, tell people how to podcast them, we go what's a podcast? I remember those days, yeah and actually I had an aha moment about a year ago. I was sitting in a cigar lounge by myself. So I get a lot of work done there, a lot of thinking done there, and this older gentleman, probably in his 70s or 80s, sits down and he goes what do you do? I gotta know where I have a podcast and goes I love podcasts and I go. Oh my gosh. Like my moment of like pots epiphany right there, Like wow so you know you do that like seeing that growth over time. Right, yeah, but but before this I certainly was not in this type of work. Yeah, I didn't understand entrepreneurship. I I always wanted to be an entrepreneur, but I didn't quite know how to do it. But my last job I worked for the Chamber of Commerce.

Speaker 2 8:16

I do remember that. Yeah, I remember that year Is that when you and Zach started doing something with the growth movement thing at that point?

Speaker 1 8:22

No, this is before that I was actually in medical sales for five years before that medical medical sales management and Was doing very well in the job. But we we tried multiple different things.

Speaker 2 8:33

We did some live events which yes, I remember I was that one of those. Yeah, yeah, so they were years ago. They were great, yeah, yeah it was a child.

Speaker 1 8:40

Yeah, I remember Craig.

Speaker 2 8:40

Oh, craig pool had just started at the at the. Oh my god, was crown Plaza. Yeah, he had just started and he told his story. Yes, remember that. Yeah, so it was.

Speaker 1 8:49

It was. We met Craig on his third day in Berks County and he's like I want to help you guys. He looked lost.

Speaker 2 8:56

We were we were lost a very honest guy.

Speaker 1 8:58

Yes, yes, but you know it's it's been one step at a time, yeah, and and we tried a couple other different things that can I, and actually Zach was my co-host for the first year. Yeah, I can't remember them and you know, some things popped up in his personal life and I was like, hey, do you mind if I do?

Speaker 3 9:12

this on my own.

Speaker 1 9:13

Yeah and he's like no. And about a year and a half after he stepped back, ink magazine listed me as a top-aid podcast every entrepreneur should follow. Awesome. Three hundred and seventy thousand people read that article Wow, oh change, change.

Speaker 2 9:24

Yeah, that changes everything, right, yeah, absolutely, wow, that's incredible. So that was ink. Ink was an ink magazine, or was it? Yeah?

Speaker 1 9:31

it was ink was on ink dot com.

Speaker 2 9:32

Yeah, I would just say ink magazines and people think tattoo.

Speaker 1 9:34

I know what you mean all that stuff, yeah.

Speaker 2 9:38

It's the INC ink, not the INK. Yes, okay, I got you, so you don't have a sleeve or anything.

Speaker 1 9:43

We don't see one small tattoo.

Speaker 2 9:45

Okay, we probably don't want to know where it is. It's probably. Let's just keep that off the podcast.

Speaker 1 9:49

Allow it to be somebody's imagine.

Speaker 2 9:50

It's not that kind of show. Okay, just trying to tell you, we got out of real estate, we into weird stuff. That's what we did, but no, that's, that's cool. So tell me you, do you ever get nervous?

Speaker 1 10:00

All the time you do so. Here's the thing especially if I interview a big name, I want to cancel it right before, every single time.

Speaker 2 10:06

Because you want to throw up.

Speaker 1 10:07

Yeah, and I think a lot of it. We all have these limiting beliefs, absolutely.

Speaker 2 10:11

If I had to have this conversation. This is crazy.

Speaker 1 10:14

And so, for me, I keep going back to that purpose of showing up and making sure that I can change a life with this one conversation or that one person who reached out and said, hey, because of you, I decided not to take my life has happened about four or five times now, and so I'm like, ok, I just got to keep showing up. And it's been really, really fun. On the back end, the nerves go away and we have a great conversation. Once you hit record and you get into that conversation, it goes away. Well, it's a conversation.

Speaker 2 10:43

And I tell that for guests that come in. If they seem a little anxiety, right, tell them, look, once we start, we're just going to talk. We're just you and I talking, that's all it is. Don't mind Hugo, he just sits in the corner over there and does his thing. He plays around with buttons that look fun, but yeah, that's, that's cool. So you do get a little nervous, and I do too. You know I get a little bit of anxiety just to tad before, but after that it's all good, it's all good. So you know, I've just listened to you, had a Thanksgiving episode on Not Too Long ago for Thanksgiving, and it was all about gratitude, you know, and that word is used a lot right now, and I should get. What does that mean to you?

Speaker 1 11:30

I think gratitude for me is finding finding. I'm trying not to use the word gratitude.

Speaker 2 11:38

Define gratitude without using the word gratitude, it's like middle school.

Speaker 1 11:42

You know, I think it is. It's finding joy even in moments when it's not going the way you want it to go, because the reality is life is always going to have its ups and downs, right, for instance like for me, like a lot of the catalyst of what I do now. Growing up, I was a terrible student. I was never the kid who's going to go to college and get a career and do those things. My mom battled opioids for 20 years. My dad spent some time in jail and so all signs pointed to you've got no shot. And six months before my mom I launched the show, my mom passed away. She'd lost her battle of opioids and obviously it took some time. But I find gratitude in that moment now Because, looking back, if that didn't happen, I probably wouldn't be doing what I'm doing now. I wouldn't be able to impact lives, and I honor her in every conversation that I have Because she struggled for a long time. But she was such a beautiful person, a great mom who loved me unconditionally, and her pain has now created so much happiness for other people and I find joy in that. And so Edmai Lat, who we talked about earlier.

Speaker 2 12:42

You frame it that way. Yeah, exactly, am I right? You know what I'm saying? You're using that situation and there's choices you can make at that moment. You can frame it to be bad and I'm gonna use that as my crutch all the time. It's always gonna be part of my limiting belief. Or I can frame it as something that's good and use it into my future to give me a better life, and that's what you did. You did the right things there. It's awesome.

Speaker 1 13:07

Yeah, you know, ed. I think Ed was the first person to say it. Now everybody says it, but it's about realizing that life is happening for me and not to me. Not to me To get out of that victim mindset right, and I was for quite some time. I tell the story where I was blackout drunk six nights a week for three months after my mom passed away, utilizing that victim mindset to hide, to run, to numb the pain, to do all those things. And so the reality was I had a choice and I had to step back up and kind of define my rock bottom moment of. Like this is my rock bottom moment Doesn't mean bad things aren't going to happen again, but what it means is I'm gonna find gratitude in those other moments, that kind of knock me down and rise out of that and create a platform out of it. I mean COVID is even a great example of that. Like 85% of my income was speaking and doing my live event. The world shut down for two years, but what it did is it restructured my whole entire business, where now I work less, I make more. I live a great life because of that moment.

Speaker 2 14:03

It's interesting, right, how things force you to change it does, because what happened is you couldn't do the same things you did before. Guy was on a podcast. He wrote a book about 10 times in your life as opposed to two times in it and getting more out of your life, and it was something like that. Your life was changed. So much Actually happened a lot of us. This podcast right here is because of COVID. It really is. I started April of 2020 because I was bored and I always wanted to have a podcast and I thought, man, now's the time, this is it, this is my time to do this, and now, three years later, going on four, I guess you know here it is, but yeah, that's really cool. I love the whole gratitude thing and it was. I liked your podcast about it. It was very good and how you explained it. It was really good, thank you. One thing that I was like really blown away with you met Andy Grammer. I did, yeah, I did. God, that pisses me off. So yo it's kind of why he is like one of my. He's one of my favorites.

Speaker 1 14:56

He is. He's one of my favorites. He's probably number two on my list. Michael Buble is my favorite musical artist.

Speaker 3 15:01

Dude, yeah, are you a whiskey drinker? Oh, yeah, so he came out with a whiskey. Well, he came out with a whiskey.

Speaker 1 15:06

Okay, it's the first ever North American whiskey.

Speaker 2 15:08

It's called Frasier and Thompson. Oh, I did see that. I did see that. Is it really yeah? I'm gonna have to start drinking more whiskey.

Speaker 1 15:14

I'm a vodka guy, I'm a Tito's guy. Yeah, I can't do the vodka.

Speaker 2 15:16

Yeah, yeah, okay. Well, that's right, that way you won't drink my shit. There you go. Yeah, come over whenever you want, yeah exactly Cause I know you won't drink my stuff, that's perfect.

Speaker 1 15:23

So the Andy Grammer thing he's been number one on my list to interview for five years.

Speaker 3 15:28

Yeah.

Speaker 1 15:29

I've gotten close a couple of times. There've been some messages back and forth and then sent to his team and trying to schedule it and it just has still has not happened. It'll happen, yeah, it'll happen.

Speaker 3 15:37

Sure.

Discussion on Neutropics and Meeting Fabio

Speaker 1 15:39

I got his tour manager's number while we were there at the show and we've been texting back and forth trying to make something happen. But the crazy thing is I won those Like I bought tickets to the event. Lauren, my wife bought us tickets to the event. She's surprised me with them. But then I entered some drawing thing and I won a meet and greet and I was like that's cool, unbelievable, that's awesome. Yeah, he's a super nice guy.

Speaker 2 15:59

Yeah, it's very cool. Yeah, Well, I think his music is just fun. He's got you listen to his lyrics. It's like my kids love it. They can listen to it with me because there's nothing in the lyrics that are bad, all that stuff, but it's really fun stuff. So I told you about before the show that there's just new stuff. You said that you're kind of into this stuff too Neutropics yeah, I love them. Yeah, I found one called Magic Mind and I just wanted to tell you about that. I want to tell the viewers about this a little bit that I started drinking this stuff and I'm not one of those into like the weird stuff, you know, like we call that a gree-gre or any of that kind of stuff. I'm not into that. I got the stuff and I was very skeptical and I said you know what I'm going to try it. I have to be honest, does not taste that great. So I'm just going to tell you. But you know what it's like two shots, two boom, boom, down down. You drink it with your coffee. So it's not instead of coffee, it's with your coffee and it's given me like an open, like more of an open, mind or like I've noticed myself being clear when I'm thinking and stuff like that 100% yeah, so you said you've tried some of this stuff.

Speaker 1 16:59

Yeah, I mean, I haven't tried that brand which I'm going to, because I'm always I'm super interested in trying to be more focused in the time that I need to be focused, absolutely. Neutropics changes the game for me when it comes to going. Ok, I really need to get a lot of work done today. I'll take a Neutropic in the morning and I'll just hammer out work, and you've noticed it right. You can actually took one before I came here.

Speaker 2 17:18

There you go, that's true.

Speaker 1 17:19

That's true, this is true.

Speaker 2 17:20

This is not part of this. This is he took. He took one, but no, it's amazing and I don't know what's in a lot of this stuff there's vitamin B12, vitamin B3, all that stuff, but there's also, like this Lyons Mane, which I'm hearing a lot about. You know that's in these things. All I got to do is tell you I'm liking it. My wife was really upset with me this morning because I left my one bottle in Atlantic City. Because I had like two left right, so I left. I forgot to tell this story before, but I left the one bottle in the fridge in Atlantic City for a real estate convention. I come home and I'm realizing, oh my god, I forgot my one before my next shipment comes in, right. So this morning my wife was really not happy with me because I drank her last one.

Speaker 1 17:58

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 17:58

Yeah, so she wasn't happy, but I just want to let people know. Hopefully she'll be your wife. I think she still is. I'm pretty sure she still is. But if you go online, we're going to have something on the actual podcast. It'll be in Facebook and all that stuff. You'll tell you how to get the information and also how. There's a code in there for discount so you can get discounts just by using my name on there. So there you go.

Speaker 1 18:16

Love it. Yeah, I love Neutrophics.

Speaker 2 18:18

So the other thing I want to talk about is that I'm going to the giving without expectations. We talked about Fabio a little bit, and then did you tell me how you met him?

Speaker 1 18:26

Yeah, we were. Just. I don't even know if I told you before we have a recorder, if this is in the recording, but he was speaking at an event.

Speaker 2 18:32

Oh, you're speaking at an event.

Speaker 1 18:33

Yeah, and actually this is the actual meeting. I didn't meet him at the event. I interviewed a guy and I didn't know this until after he was already booked on the show. So understand that this guy, pj, who I'm about to talk about, I didn't interview him just to get to Fabio. Okay, so PJ comes on the show.

Speaker 2 18:47

Have you ever done that in the past? Of course yeah. Wow, it's like meeting a girl, yeah.

Speaker 1 18:53

Yeah, I gotta be friends with him.

Speaker 2 18:54

Was that bad? Did I sound like a man, like a pig?

Speaker 1 18:57

No, look, we know, it was back in the day. Back in the day, that's right. We all did weird things.

Speaker 2 19:01

Now I just steal my wife's new tropics Go ahead.

Speaker 1 19:04

Go ahead. So I interviewed this guy, pj, and as I was doing research before he came on the show, I realized that Fabio wrote the forward to his book.

Speaker 2 19:11

Oh, get in here.

Speaker 1 19:12

This was the first time I ever asked for an introduction, so I interviewed PJ. It was a great conversation and I go hey, man, I never do this.

Speaker 2 19:19

I wasn't lying because I had never done this. Yeah, no, that's cool.

Speaker 1 19:21

You gotta be integrity, yeah, and I was like I never do this, but I would love to interview Fabio. Do you think you can make an introduction? He goes, yeah, of course he's my best friend. He'll do it. Oh, that's awesome, All right cool, so that's how I got introduced to him.

Speaker 2 19:32

Very cool.

Speaker 1 19:32

But here's the even cooler part. Fabio then introduced me to 40 or 50 people individually via email from the newbie on my show. Wow, and he's so cool up and down.

Speaker 2 19:41

That's cool, though he didn't have to do that. He did not. No, that's cool. That's definitely helping people on the way up there. Also, I noticed he drops the F-bomb on your podcast too.

Speaker 1 19:49

Well, yeah, but he's got an Italian accent, so it works.

Speaker 2 19:51

Yeah, it sounds cool. It does. It sounds really cool. We are allowed the F-bomb here.

Vision, Delegation, and Personal Principles

Speaker 1 19:55

We allowed the other stuff like shit, so he spoke at my event in 2019, and I was told by three people afterwards that he shouldn't have said that many F words, and I go. Well, you didn't do your research before you came.

Speaker 3 20:03

it's not on, speak oh good one, I mean, unless he's actually on like network television.

Speaker 1 20:08

That's just who he is.

Speaker 2 20:09

It's exact and there's nothing wrong with that Correct. Did you ever see George Carlin? I mean geez.

Speaker 3 20:12

George Carlin.

Speaker 2 20:13

I mean that's part of his show, right? Hey, look at Ron Whitey smokes a cigarette on stage or a cigar, and he's not allowed to.

Speaker 1 20:19

But he does because that's part of his thing.

Speaker 2 20:21

So you got to, yeah, you got to. So where does life take you? Where are you going? I know you're married now. That was most recent. For what I remember, it wasn't too long ago, a year ago, something like that April of last year, yeah. April of last year. Ok, which is great. Congratulations, thank you, and I've met your wife. She's awesome.

Speaker 1 20:35

Yeah, she is way cooler than me.

Speaker 2 20:36

Yeah, I was going to say that, but since you're on the show she's not, I figured to put you more in the spotlight. But then the other thing is like where are you going with this? Where's your vision? Like, where do you see this?

Speaker 1 20:47

You know people ask me this question all the time. Yeah, I couldn't have told you that I was here, I'd be here, yeah, having the conversations I have, having the businesses that I have you know, leading a mastermind of entrepreneurs are way more talented than I am I couldn't see myself doing any of this stuff. So I know that I'll continue to do more of this. Whatever this is Like, my goal is to impact as many lives as I can. Yeah, but because I've positioned myself in such a way, opportunities appear often, yeah, and if they fall in line with my values, I'll give them a try and that will kind of lead me into the next realm, the next step, the next world. I will say this I don't. I've done some live events for growth now. Yeah, my podcast based around it. A couple of times because of COVID, they left a real bad taste in my mouth, right, but unfortunately it's a lot of work.

Speaker 2 21:37

It's a lot of work and I noticed that when you were doing those shows, I remember just seeing you out or seeing even just on your pocket, just in life on a social media. I saw that it was a lot of work, dude, it's stressful.

Speaker 1 21:50

Yeah, now, I've gotten a lot smarter over the years. Can you delegate more, can you? Can I mean, you know, in 2019, I was broke, yeah, so I had to do literally everything myself, exactly, you know. Now I'm in a different place where certain things can be delegated, the stress can be lowered in certain ways, but the end of the day, it's still you. You're still the face, absolutely, you're the one selling the tickets, you're still doing all that stuff, but the, the live event bug will always kind of be in the back of my head, yeah, and so we'll know for sure in the next couple of months, but I, you know, keep your eyes peeled.

Speaker 2 22:21

You might do something again.

Speaker 1 22:22

Maybe September of 2024.

Speaker 2 22:24

So, ok, yeah, keep it, gives.

Speaker 1 22:25

us lots of time to talk about it.

Speaker 2 22:26

Keep your eyes open and peeled.

Speaker 1 22:28

I don't know if it'll be in Reading this time, maybe closer to Philly, but you know that's just from the growth that I've had. But we'll see. Oh, OK, let's see. So who do you learn from Everybody? And I know that's such a cliche answer, but I literally learn from everybody. I do enjoy being the smartest person in the room, so I put an asterisk to this comment. I do enjoy it from time to time, but I try not to be yeah, and so I've been fortunate enough that I have this vehicle, that I get to have the greatest mentors in the world. Yeah, you do, man. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean the conversation.

Speaker 2 23:00

Actually, you know, it's funny too we as a public I think that's why podcasts got so big yeah, we all have the ability to have mentors that we never had. I mean, when I think about how Ed Mylet and the people on his show have changed my life in the past year not changed my life, but changed my mindset, my the way I think, the things that I care about, the things that I worry about you know, I never got into John Maxwell and knew who he was, saw him live and want to see him live again in January, but never really got to know him until Ed interviewed him, you know. So that's the thing. That's cool with the podcast is you're turning people on to people that they can get help from. Yeah, I just love that, and we didn't have that before. You had to read a book, yeah, and not everybody had the time.

Speaker 1 23:43

Yeah or the.

Speaker 2 23:44

I can't read a book while I'm walking, like when I do my walk in the morning, do I have my walk in the morning? That's what I do. Podcast, yep, you know. So I couldn't do that with a book. Well, I could, I'd run into shit, but you know. But it's like you know I now I have the podcast to do. So go ahead. Sorry, I kind of just thought. I thought I was. I didn't want to interrupt your story.

Speaker 1 24:00

And that's exactly what it is Like, selfishly, for me. I have conversations, I want to have that. I feel like to move me forward, especially early on. I always say, if you listen to the first two years of the podcast, every single one of those conversations were from, or every single one of those questions were for me.

Speaker 3 24:12

Right.

Speaker 1 24:12

It was really like I was going to school.

Speaker 2 24:15

Oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 24:16

But now I'm super intentional with the people I surround myself with. I have five specific people in my life at any given time that help guide me and mentor me and help me make decisions into the next level. And I don't want to necessarily say they're coaches, although one of them is Like I just very much say, say to myself like who has my back and my best interest in mind, and I make sure those people are there and I bounce ideas off them and tell them the stuff I messed up and it's awesome.

Speaker 2 24:40

You kind of roll with it from there. That's very cool. Anything else you want to share?

Speaker 3 24:43

I have a question.

Speaker 2 24:44

Oh, no, sorry, no questions from you, no, go ahead.

Speaker 3 24:47

Brad. No, justin, in whatever you're doing now in life, you know you mentioned before the show that you're you know you're about to turn 30, 40 and you know you're starting to think about things. You know that bring meaning to your life. But I'm curious to know what is in whatever you end up doing, whatever that may be, whatever that may be the case, what is the guide and principle that is at the very top that, in, whatever you do, what is always a guide and principle that you have deemed unbreakable? Sure, yeah, it's a good one, it's a really good question.

Speaker 1 25:18

So my definition of success, I believe, as a guy who's involved with Keller Williams says all the time, which is I want to do what I want when I want, with whom I want. And I think he took it a step further and said for as long as I want.

Speaker 3 25:31

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 25:32

And so that's. That's a big thing for me. I realized in my early grinds as an entrepreneur that I didn't want to be stressed out with work. I didn't want to be constantly working from bell to bell. I didn't want to be burning the candle on both ends. And so, as opportunities present themselves to me, I asked two questions One, how much time will this take me on any given month, and the less the better. And two, will it be fun? Yeah, and if, if there's a, if there's a lot of hours or the answers know to that second question, I don't do it. Part of that is like, hey, I'm now a married man and a stepdad to two kids. I want to make sure my time is not taken away from them. Yeah, and obviously anything within my values, right. Like I'm a spiritual person, I believe doing good is a good thing, and so if it's evil if I'm signing a contract with the devil that's going to be a no for me, but so it's like this kind of thing here. Yeah, it's got to be. It's got to be fun for me and not take a ton of my time.

Justin Shank Interviews Ed Milet

Speaker 2 26:30

Yeah, that's good stuff, man, Really good. So, and that's it's kind of how I run my stuff now too. That was the definition of wealth from it's either from Mark King or from Gary Keller I can't remember one, but they're both Keller Williams. But yeah, and that's what really you're defining wealth, not rich, correct? You know what I mean? There's two different definitions and I think a lot of times people take the two and make them the same and they're not. You know, it's not. So it's good stuff, man. I really appreciate that. Great question, hugo. Excellent question.

Speaker 1 26:59

Thank you so much man.

Speaker 2 27:00

So we're going to have to have you come back in again, because you know we're going to have to keep up on this different things and things going on here, and I appreciate you so much for coming on here, because I know you're a busy guy. I do like the fact that you're off in December, though, so it makes it easier by the way, I'm actually not that busy of a guy.

Speaker 1 27:13

That's the beauty of saying. The first question is how much time does this take?

Speaker 2 27:16

me. We're going to say he's busy. Well, you know, man, you're a dad, just family stuff, like tonight I'm going to recital and have to watch Lucy play the flute.

Speaker 1 27:25

Wait, hold on, I get to watch Lucy play the flute.

Speaker 2 27:27

That's right.

Speaker 1 27:28

And it's going to be a beautiful Christmas concert. That's the best stuff, dude.

Speaker 2 27:31

I was. I came home from Atlantic City. I was out late the night before, you know, doing weaving and sewing and things like that, but then I had to be back into town to see Carson's concert and it was one of those things like how to get up early and I got up real early to do that. I normally wouldn't do that, but I did because you know what. He was so happy to see me there. Well, my wife would have killed me too, but yeah. So thanks so much for being on the show. Thank you, yeah, what a great show that's about it. I love it, dude. All right, thanks so much. There you go. Wow, justin Shank was on the show and you know what Did you hear? He actually interviewed Ed Milet. That is incredible. Amongst all the other people, he's interviewed 500 episodes. Go check him out. He is amazing. We're going to have all of his information on Facebook, on Instagram, all that stuff. Check him out, listen to his shows. They're just amazing. I gotta say every Thursday 7pm, we'll see you.