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The Artistic World of Stephanie Taormina - Creator of 'Have Some Fun Today'

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"This is Stephanie's 3rd time on my podcast and each time it's great experiencing her growth in her work, and commitment to her brand and self.  She shared how her abstract paintings are starting to take a larger role in her creative expression at this point in her life.  In this episode she really digs into her artistic processes and shares with us her LOVE for ART in all aspects." - Brad Weisman

How does a simple saying transform into a globally recognized brand? Join us as we sit down with the extraordinary Stephanie Taormina, the creator of "Have Some Fun Today" brands.  Celebrating the brand's ten-year anniversary, Stephanie shares the inspiring origins of her movement, sparked by her father's words, and how it has captured the hearts of celebrities and fans worldwide.  We also introduce her latest fashion innovation, a chic belt buckle, and get exclusive style tips on how to elevate your wardrobe with this accessory.  Additionally, Stephanie delves into her expanding artistic journey, detailing her involvement in a summer-long exhibition at the Goggleworks and her latest venture into painting.

In the second half of our episode, Stephanie reveals her creative process behind the captivating "Magic Series," which she began in early April.  Working on five pieces simultaneously, she maintains a consistent palette to evoke a cohesive and powerful visual experience.  Stephanie opens up about her unique painting habits, the significance of her work environment, and her ambitious plans for even larger pieces to create an immersive exhibition.  Get a sneak peek into the preparations and challenges she faced for her upcoming gallery exhibit at Goggleworks, and share in the excitement of seeing her art displayed. Tune in to be inspired by Stephanie's dynamic energy and creative insights in this must-listen conversation.  #goggleworks #havesomefuntoday #hfst #stepanietaormina #bradweisman

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Speaker 1:

from real estate to real life and everything in between, the brad weisman show and now your host, brad weisman. All right, we're back. Thank goodness. I like being in the studio, hugo, isn't it fun? It is fun it's a lot of fun, right?

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah, we bring all kinds of fun people in here. You know we have a repeat guest and and it's not Pete Heim, it's actually a really talented an entrepreneur, does a lot of stuff with you know, charities and things like that. We have Stephanie Taramina back in the studio, which is so cool, and she is the one responsible for the saying, the clothing, the bags, the hats that say have some fun today. So how are you doing?

Speaker 2:

I'm great.

Speaker 1:

That's amazing.

Speaker 2:

Good to see you again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, good to see you, and you come from New York city.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm in town.

Speaker 1:

You're in town, see. Well, we don't feel that special, then do we? She can't, she's actually in town. She's all stop by for the show, you know, but no, I know we booked the show ahead of time, but this is good. But no, it's so exciting to see. I follow you so much on social media, follow everything that you're doing. I love it because I love the entrepreneurial spirit that you have, I love the giving back that you do and I just love seeing. It's always fun, your stuff's fun, and which is good because it's called have some fun today. So what I want to talk about is some things is like what's new? You know what's the new stuff going on, and I know when you were here before, it was a belt buckle, yeah, so how's the? How did the belt buckle do?

Speaker 2:

The belt buckle is awesome.

Speaker 1:

I think it looks cool. I love the belt.

Speaker 2:

I think it's a great new. You know classic upscale accessory from.

Speaker 1:

Have some fun today and one of the things I love wearing the way I love to wear. It is over a dress over a dress.

Speaker 2:

I always like to share my style tip with ladies who are into the belt, because it's actually a great way to put it over a dress and give yourself a little bit more of a little cinch.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, a little cinch. I like that idea. I don't wear dresses that often, so I guess it wouldnch. I like that idea. I don't wear dresses that often, so I guess it wouldn't work with me that well.

Speaker 2:

Probably wouldn't work with you.

Speaker 1:

Probably not for my, my wardrobe. So I also see you doing a lot of painting. I am, you know, and you, you are an all around artist, but I'm seeing you do more painting than than you have done in the past, maybe or just because have some fun today. Has always been in the front and now I'm seeing more painting, which is awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, does that sound?

Speaker 1:

right or not?

Speaker 2:

No, it's, it's totally true. I mean 10, it'll be 10 years of have some fun today.

Speaker 1:

That's incredible.

Speaker 2:

Which I can't even believe it. Yeah, I remember being in here when I first started the brand Absolutely. Um, so this is my third time.

Speaker 1:

Actually, I still have that episode.

Speaker 2:

Oh do you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, pretty wild, and it was when you first started. I was doing a show back then called how you Show Up, and then you've been also. You were on Real Estate you, which is the show before this.

Speaker 2:

And now you're here.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, 10 years Congratulations.

Speaker 2:

I know it feels, I know it's. It feels like a real accomplishment, because it is a real accomplishment 10 years to come out of nowhere in a small town in Pennsylvania and create a brand out of a saying that my father said that has been worn by thousands of people all over the world, including some of the most amazing celebrities in the world.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I've seen that.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of I can't even believe it happened really.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's kind of like surreal a little bit, right A little bit yeah. Well, I hope that keeps going, and I think it will, because I love the products, I love what's there and we were talking about. I looked up for men and you said unisex. There's a part in there on the website that says unisex.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so anything that's unisex is actually a man can wear and is meant for men to enjoy as well as women and their size. When it says unisex, it's actually sized for a man, so it's good to know when you're ordering something that says unisex, if you're a woman, it might be a little big.

Speaker 1:

I never is that a standard across. Yeah, never knew that. Yeah, so whenever you see that, that's usually the men's size is like the men's medium.

Speaker 2:

And so the woman might want to size down. I mean, I like things oversized.

Speaker 1:

So I'm cool with that. A lot of women do yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I think that's kind of back in again, really back in, right. Oh yeah, yeah, exactly yeah, it's kind of like a eighties, like flash dance kind of thing a little bit. You know, the longer yeah it is. And even the pants are really they got big baggy pants again, right.

Speaker 1:

You know, and I had just gotten into skinny jeans. You know, it's like this stuff just changes way too fast for me.

Speaker 2:

You, you have a little bit of time, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's good, that's good. Nobody wants to see me in skinny jeans anyway, my kids are like dad. No, it's not happening, not working, but let's go back into the artwork again. So you are doing it. You're going to be doing a show all summer long at the Goggleworks. Your artwork will be there.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I have one large painting that's going to be in the juried goggle work show.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it opens on July 5th and it runs through August.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, awesome.

Speaker 2:

So I'm excited. I used to have a studio there.

Speaker 1:

It's a big painting.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a big painting. Yeah, I like to paint big.

Speaker 1:

You do. I've seen that they're large. You're not putting it on a dining room wall or anything like that, unless you have a really large dining room. Yeah, I mean yeah, but you have other stuff.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. So I've been painting a lot, you know, ever since I kind of got a place in Manhattan last year. You know, I'm in Manhattan half the time and here half the time a little bit more here, actually, and just going to all the galleries that are right near where I live has just really inspired me to start painting again. You know, when I walked in these galleries I was like I could see my stuff here.

Speaker 2:

Good for you, and it just kind of started kind of moving in my head and I started doing a little bit and got in a couple of shows last year in New York City, which was amazing to be in a gallery in Chelsea and joined an art collective this year, and so I'm meeting all these great artists from all over the world, actually, and can you bring the two together?

Speaker 1:

What do you mean? Can you bring the have some fun today in the artwork together? I think I've seen you do that on some things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean that's. I have already done that Like the affirmation art collection that was worn by Mila Kunis and a lot of people in town.

Speaker 1:

Is that this? Is that that? Yeah, I saw you. She's looking over like pick up the darn thing. She's like give me a cue. So you're talking about this logo.

Speaker 2:

It's not a logo. It was actually a painting.

Speaker 1:

Let me see if I can get this right. There we go, and of course I dropped it.

Speaker 2:

It was just a abstract painting and we thought let's kind of put that on a really cool hoodie and bring the art into the brand, and it was really well received.

Speaker 1:

So that's how that started with. It was with art.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Maybe, maybe that's where things start to go really big. You know, you know cause I was thinking why not sell the prints on your website? For have some fun today.

Speaker 2:

You know I, I should be doing that.

Speaker 1:

Cause I was surprised not to see your artwork on this on the website today.

Speaker 2:

I know, okay, well, you know, I really should do that.

Speaker 1:

Should we have talked about this before the show or not? She's like why are you saying this now? But this is good, this is a conversation that's happening. It's real time.

Speaker 2:

I mean the great thing about. You know my website is. I can do whatever you want. I can change it whenever I want. It's your website.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly, but no, think that's what I was thinking of, because I thought you know why not have prints there? Because if they're buying your clothes there, they might want to put one of those prints in their bedroom or in their somewhere else, you know it's definitely a good idea and I don't really know why I haven't done it yet.

Speaker 2:

Um, we use a fulfillment center, so yes none of my everything is in florida now, so I don't really keep and I have the prints here because it's with all my art stuff, but that's a good idea.

Speaker 1:

I would put one of those in my office in a second, yeah, framed out, have some fun, like the one that's on there, absolutely, oh, that one, even that one, I would, or even your artwork, I have a different one.

Speaker 2:

I have a different one that I do have fine art prints for Fantastic, but that is a really good idea. Yeah, that's a cute idea.

Speaker 1:

I would do that in a second.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, yeah, see, you're hired.

Speaker 1:

I'm just here. It is because I love this stuff so much. I love the way it looks, and I love this one right here. I really love it and I'm thinking, man, that could be in a frame like on a wall, it could be on. Actually that I think next time you're on the show we'll talk about that.

Speaker 2:

I appreciate it, I know, I love it when people like write into me or, you know, give me a little DMS, giving me ideas.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely I love.

Speaker 2:

I love hearing feedback. I mean honestly, I actually do my own customer service.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2:

So it's always interesting because people don't realize your own customer service.

Speaker 1:

They don't realize that they're talking to me. They're talking to you.

Speaker 2:

And I'm really into my customer service.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely. I think it'd be kind of fun.

Speaker 2:

It is kind of fun because I feel like it's always an opportunity, because, you know, let's just be real, most of the time if someone is reaching out to customer service, they have a problem.

Speaker 1:

Yes yes.

Speaker 2:

So I don't know. I'm into it. I'm into taking that opportunity and saying, hey, here's the deal. We're a really small brand and we hear what they have to say, and I love turning that situation around and I would say 9.5 out of 10 times I do.

Speaker 1:

That's fantastic.

Speaker 2:

You know, I think people want to be heard.

Speaker 1:

Also if you say, by the way, this is Stephanie.

Speaker 2:

I actually never tell them that.

Speaker 1:

Oh right, okay, it's not like I'm saying you don't name drop yourself. No, no, see, name drop yourself. See, I would name drop myself no, I just this. By the way, this is a brad, so if you don't like the show, screw off. No, but you're, you have to be very good, yeah, yeah, are they like yelling at you or?

Speaker 2:

sometimes about what it's close I mean I mean it's usually in a in a chat in a chat okay it's not like I mean I have gotten on the phone a few times with people. Probably only one time it was an uncomfortable situation, but really almost every single time it turns out really good because people just want to know that you care.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and I care. That's exactly right. It's like so obvious that I care you wouldn't be doing this for 10 years if you didn't care. You wouldn't be getting the customer service calls if you didn't care. Yeah, because you could ship that out to somewhere else if you wanted to. You could.

Speaker 2:

And honestly, I like doing it yeah. I like doing it because it kind of connects me to the customer. The whole purpose of doing this is to help people have more fun.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

So of course, I'm going to do whatever I can to make them happy.

Speaker 1:

I agree 100%.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So let's go with the artwork that, with the paintings and stuff that you're doing. Okay, what inspires you to do that Like cause your, your art is? I don't know what you call it. Is it abstract? I don't know what it's called.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm an abstract, okay.

Speaker 1:

So I even have love it. I love the colors on it. So what is there an inspiration that you get with colors or with the shapes or anything, or do you there is Totally. Do you see it ahead of time before you put it on there?

Speaker 2:

It's the weirdest thing I I take baths. I love to take a bath and so I take a bath every single night, and quite often I will be listening to music or whatever. Like the candles, I got the whole thing.

Speaker 1:

It's my therapy. You're really into it.

Speaker 2:

And I often get inspired. I see a painting in my head.

Speaker 1:

That's what I was wondering.

Speaker 2:

I do, or I get an idea, or I get an idea, and so right now, I have decided to create a full body of work, which means make a lot of paintings.

Speaker 1:

Right and In like a series, do you call it something?

Speaker 2:

Okay, it's a series, a series, okay, yeah, so it's a series of paintings and the inspiration is magic.

Speaker 1:

Oh, is, magic so.

Speaker 2:

I had this like kind of vision or idea come to me about magic in your life and how it feels, and it made me realize that I wanted to see if I could make a painting that kind of was based on this idea. What would magic look like?

Speaker 1:

Interesting.

Speaker 2:

What would the energy look?

Speaker 1:

like for magic, I like that.

Speaker 2:

And so I started these, and the weird thing is, I'll get this inspiration, but I sometimes don't act on it for a long time.

Speaker 1:

Is that good or bad?

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

No, I just want it because, as an artist, when I used to write songs, well it's Because if I didn't get it out sometimes right away, but it's different for writing songs I mean, I would forget it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so I will write things down.

Speaker 1:

Okay, good, so that I don't forget it. Okay, got it. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know, and I kind of just go about my life and that idea is still there and I think about it in like little bits and pieces and it was about April, so I had like the idea in January.

Speaker 1:

Oh, wow.

Speaker 2:

It wasn't until about early April that I started to try and paint these paintings and you know I did like five.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

I did five right away but not finished. I just started like five paintings.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and Same colors then. Is that what puts it in the same series, the same colors? No, no, no.

Speaker 2:

That's not.

Speaker 1:

Just the mood.

Speaker 2:

It's not the same colors. Puts it in a series. It's, but they are they do.

Speaker 1:

She's like no goofball.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, but they do have the same colors.

Speaker 1:

Got it.

Speaker 2:

Because I'm using a palette, and so when I'm using a palette of colors, Got it. And I'm painting five paintings at the same time.

Speaker 1:

You're going to tend to.

Speaker 2:

Those colors are going to go on all those paintings. So it kind of makes it cohesive, you know, because a series should be cohesive in some sense.

Speaker 1:

And this is magic. This is the magic series.

Speaker 2:

So I've been working on these paintings and you know the first round was slow. I just kind of got the base done and then I was in New York, came back and I knew I was going to be home for like three weeks. My mother was having surgery and I wanted to be there for her and so I just hunkered down and I knew I was going to be painting and taking care of her. And it was weird, the one night I went in to paint and I thought I don't usually paint at night, I'm more of a-.

Speaker 1:

I was going to ask that question when is your See now? I thought when you said about the bathing, I'm thinking you get out of the bathtub and then you go paint.

Speaker 2:

No, no, so it's during the day. The bathtub is then bed Is for thinking. Is for relaxing and taking it down, taking care of yourself.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and then going to bed and then say, okay, I'm now relaxed, yeah, kind of in your space, and then you go to bed. Okay, cause I'm really into my sleep Gotcha, gotcha.

Speaker 2:

Sleep person.

Speaker 1:

I am too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm a sleep person it's hard, so non morning person. Oh a morning, totally morning, but you like to go to bed early I want to make sure I get my sleep how many hours? I get about eight hours of sleep that's what they say is actually best yeah, yeah, I get about that yeah, years ago they used to say less, but it's now they're saying eight hours is what you're supposed to get.

Speaker 2:

Yeah I think it's very, very important. I'm a, very I'm into my health yeah, so very much sleep is very important very, very important so go myself the painting.

Speaker 1:

you do it during the day I do it.

Speaker 2:

I like to do it in the morning.

Speaker 1:

In the morning.

Speaker 2:

I like to. After I do all my stuff in the morning, then I like to kind of get my head clear and go in there and just have at it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know put on some great music.

Speaker 2:

So the thing is, when I came home in April, I went in there at night one night.

Speaker 1:

Oh, interesting.

Speaker 2:

Very beginning of the trip. Wow, that makes you more like magic, though, and I thought I'm just gonna sort of yeah, sort of sort things out, maybe decide what colors I'm gonna start to create, because I create my own colors, it's so funny I this.

Speaker 1:

This is like a whole different world to me. I like I don't understand, it's just interesting how you do this. Yeah, I mean I, I have been doing this my entire life, yeah, right like used to do the dolls, the doll pictures, or didn't used to draw barbies or draw dolls or something like that at one point sure years ago, though I swear that was a story that you told us before you used to draw something oh, clothing, yeah, when I was a little girl.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, yeah, um. So I went in at night and I ended up being in there for like five hours. Like it was just pouring out of me and I was like, well, I can't stop now.

Speaker 1:

No, as an artist.

Speaker 2:

No, I was like I came out of there. It was like two days I'm home and I have like all this work done and I was like in a groove, that's awesome. So that last trip, when I was here, I painted 10 paintings. Wow and they are not small paintings.

Speaker 1:

They're big. Some of them when you say like so what are you talking? Like two foot or three foot?

Speaker 2:

For example, one of the paintings is almost as big as your whole wall back.

Speaker 1:

Wow, yeah, that's cool, that's big.

Speaker 2:

And these are all part of the magic series.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And so now I'm kind of curating my own solo show.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

I'm designing what it's going to look like when someone walks into the show, and so I can take some of the paintings that I've already completed and I can build on that that. I've already completed and I can build on that. I can say, oh well, now I think I need to have these, these like much larger ones, that I don't know if I sent you any of the pictures, but you did, you did, you sent us ones.

Speaker 1:

there was like these, some canvases that were on the ground, that were more, less abstract. They had like these things going like this, and that's magic.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's magic.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and she understood this. She understood when I did this with that mask. But, yeah, those are cool, I like those.

Speaker 2:

They're part of the magic, so they're like the beginning part of it, and so now I almost want to do paintings that are like three times as big as that.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

Because I want to really kind of have someone walk in and really feel something. Yeah, yeah, and they come in and they see all this artwork Almost like panoramic. Yeah, I kind of want to just create their experience.

Speaker 1:

You visualize a lot, oh yeah. You visualize this stuff, you visualize how to fund everything. I visualize everything you know, and they say that is entrepreneurial-wise. That is probably the number one thing that we do as entrepreneurs is we visualize things, we act, we act. Well, a lot of times we act first and then we kind of figure it out as we're going. But visualization is very, very important because then your mind knows how to do it. It's almost like you're making a map to how to get there.

Speaker 1:

If you can see it like this studio, the way it is, is pretty much a visualization that Hugo and I talked about. What was it going to look like when it was done and when, when we visualize the wood on the walls and things like that. But then you make it happen. But it gives you a roadmap.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's very cool the way you do things.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so when it comes to design, I do visualize it. I would say, like when it comes to actually the act of being an entrepreneur, I don't know if I really visualize it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I just you mean the business part of it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, I don't think entrepreneur has to be just labeled for business. Entrepreneur, I think makes, it means more, it's for all things.

Speaker 2:

You know, that's the way I look at it. It's for all things, yeah, but yeah but I love it, that's so.

Speaker 1:

the art is really in the forefront for you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the art is really kicking and um that's awesome. And I'm dropping this piece off on Friday at the goggle.

Speaker 1:

Very cool.

Speaker 2:

And I'm working with uh, with a mentor.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I have um.

Speaker 2:

I did a couple of sessions with this. This um art professor, who was a professor at Yale and. Columbia and um you know. So when I'm in New York, I'm going to things, I am going to things, I am introducing myself, I am networking like crazy and working on your craft. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm, like opening my world.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

You know, I, I, I know that there are things that I that's cool that I should be doing and that I can do, and I am just playing my part and making it happen.

Speaker 1:

I love that. That's right. A lot has happened since you were on here last. I mean a lot, a lot of growth or a lot of, uh, new things for you. It's just it's. It's really cool. Was it two years? I don't know. Was it two years, is there? I thought it was like a year. Maybe it was two years no, it is two years. It is two years, holy mackerel, that goes fast, that's amazing much for us it does.

Speaker 1:

It flies way too fast. It's that whole entrepreneurial thing. So, with the men's stuff, the um and I, and I think, like I said, the bringing the, the two together, I think is really going to be neat to see. If you do some more of that, I think that's cool and I'm and I like telling you, I'll be the first one to buy the print. So if you do this in a print I'll be the first one to buy the print, so if you do this in a print.

Speaker 1:

I'll be the first one to buy it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, I'll frame it and put it up, you know well, maybe I'll put it in here, maybe I will bring that for you, because I have the original.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you do. Oh wow, that's amazing. That'd be great to have one of those.

Speaker 2:

Maybe I should make prints Okay.

Speaker 1:

So you know, we talked almost 22 minutes already. Is that crazy or what? How does that happen?

Speaker 2:

Well, you're really good at talking.

Speaker 1:

I'm good at asking questions. I don't know, but no, but I want to say thanks so much for coming on the show. Let's talk a little bit more. So the Goggleworks will be all summer, right, and what do we do? Just go in there? How do we find your artwork?

Speaker 2:

Well, it is going to be their major exhibition for the summer. So, it's in the that that gallery that's on the main floor.

Speaker 1:

Okay, seeing that.

Speaker 2:

And they're going to have a label on the painting that is mine Awesome, so that's how you would.

Speaker 1:

Can you stay in touch and get us pictures of it? Maybe they're at the gallery that we could post.

Speaker 2:

Definitely going to do that.

Speaker 1:

That would be awesome.

Speaker 2:

I wrapped it all up and then I was like, what did I do? Like, because now I can't take pictures of it because it's all wrapped up well, when it's on the wall, there they're aware that's gonna be even cooler. That's gonna be amazing. Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to that make sure you get us that information.

Speaker 1:

All right, get us all that stuff on that, because we would love to see that. That'd be awesome, yeah, so I just want to say, have some fun today and uh, stephanie teramina, you have been amazing. Thanks for being on the show again you're awesome you're awesome.

Speaker 1:

Thank you all right, that was a lot of fun. Man, there's so much going on in her life. This is so cool. Um, she has had some fun today. She's doing artwork, she's doing all these different things and it's just. It's just fun to watch. I'm actually excited to go to the goggle works and see some of the artwork there. Hopefully, you guys will, too, stop in here every Thursday at 7 p. See us on Facebook, instagram, youtube. Wherever else you want to see podcasts, we're there. Alright, that's about it. Thanks for joining us.

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