The Science of Aging: Botox, GLP-1 and Gut Health

What if looking good and feeling good were two sides of the same coin? In this eye-opening conversation with Mary Kelly and Jemika Sivak
from Skin Sanctuary Med Spa and Integrative Health, we dive deep into the fascinating world where beauty treatments meet functional medicine.

The duo shatters common misconceptions about aesthetic procedures like Botox, explaining how these treatments have evolved far beyond Hollywood celebrities to become accessible options for everyday wellness. You'll discover the science behind collagen stimulation, learning how innovative techniques like PRF (Platelet-Rich Fibrin) use your body's own healing mechanisms to rejuvenate skin and even restore hair. Their strategic approach focuses not on freezing expressions but on enhancing natural features while preventing signs of aging.

But this conversation goes much deeper than skin deep. We explore the revolutionary concept of "health span" versus "lifespan," addressing why so many people spend their retirement years managing preventable chronic conditions instead of thriving. Jemika breaks down the functional medicine approach that looks at root causes rather than symptoms, explaining the crucial connection between gut health and everything from mental clarity to immune function. Most shocking is their revelation that the "Four Horsemen" of modern health—heart disease, cancer, neurodegenerative diseases, and type 2 diabetes—are up to 80% preventable through lifestyle choices.

Whether you're curious about red light therapy's ability to recharge your cellular batteries or wondering about the real story behind weight loss medications like GLP-1 agonists, this episode delivers practical wisdom without judgment. The experts emphasize that perfection isn't necessary—making healthy choices just 80% of the time can dramatically improve your quality of life. Ready to reimagine your approach to aging and wellness? This conversation might just change how you think about the connection between looking good, feeling good, and living well.  #botox #glp-1 #guthealth #bradweisman #skinsantuarymedspa

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Transcript

Meeting the Skin Sanctuary Team

Speaker 1 0:34

from real estate, the market as a whole, which then sometimes will affect the 10. Right, you know the real life we all learn in different ways. If you think about it, wayne dyer might not attract everybody and everything in between the mission was really to help people just to reach their full potential, the brad weisman show and now your host, brad Wiseman, appreciate that.

Speaker 1 1:12

I met these two ladies. Well, I met the one a while ago, but I met the other one at a party I was at recently. Now, that doesn't sound good when you start out. I met these two ladies at a party. That doesn't sound good at all, but it actually was good because I know them and they have this company called Skin Sanctuary, med Spa and Integrative Health, and we got into a deep conversation over having a couple of drinks and it was really cool and I thought you know what I need to get you in to do a podcast, which is pretty much how most of my conversations go after talking to somebody. But let's bring them in. We got Jamaica over here on my left and Mary Kelly or Mary, you want me to just call you Mary.

Speaker 3 1:47

Everyone calls me Mary Kelly. It's Jess's fault, by the way.

Speaker 1 1:49

And Susan McFadden's fault. I think she calls you Mary Kelly also.

Speaker 3 1:53

Yeah, a lot of people do. They think it's my whole first name.

Speaker 1 1:55

Yeah Well, at least it's just Mary Kelly.

Speaker 3 1:57

It could be like Mary Mary Kelly but, but, but, but, but, but right, that's, you know.

Speaker 1 2:14

Definitely one for the books yeah, it was absolutely and we had talked about so at the party we talked about I was gonna have botox done and I decided the next day that I was out of my freaking mind because I'm thinking it's probably not a good idea to do that on the show see, I totally disagree.

Speaker 3 2:34

She disagrees, she's got everything at all. You even said you brought the ball to squeeze, so in case, yeah yeah, I brought a little vibration tool because I was like I don't know how tough he is, I don't know what what's the vibration tool about? It's just like a little vibrator that you put on your face wow, maybe I should have said yes, I know, see, I had a lot of fun planned for you. Get out of here.

Botox Explained and Evolved

Speaker 1 2:55

Would have been a good time I know. This has gone weird. But no, it's all good. But no, I decide not to do it. But it's not something I won't do, and maybe sometime we'll bring you back and we'll do it then. I just feel like it's a lot to do in one shot.

Speaker 3 3:10

It is. You had me all excited.

Speaker 1 3:12

I know I did, I know you did. We're going to do it on this guy instead. We'll do it on this thing over here. This is what we're going to do it on. Okay, so tell me a little bit about your company. What do you guys do? And then we're going to go deeper into different categories of things.

Speaker 3 3:25

Okay, so a while ago, almost couple years ago, and we were like gosh, we need to partner together and do something so we started skin sanctuary med spa, so basically that company we like trained other injectors. I don't even know at this point how many people we've trained. Well, they're not all nurses, so you know it depends so there's people that learn to just do that?

Speaker 1 3:53

yeah, that are not. No, you have to be yes.

Speaker 3 3:56

Minimal is a nursing license.

Speaker 1 3:57

Okay.

Speaker 3 3:58

So it's nurses, dentists, nurse practitioners, PAs, physicians.

Speaker 1 4:02

So that's it so that's the level of what we train, gotcha.

Speaker 3 4:04

So, and then some of them would just go on their merry way and work for other people, and then some would contract with us under our medical director. So as of right now, there's nine of us across Pennsylvania Interesting, and so that's kind of like how that's it Nine. Nine. Well, we were up to 13 at some point, but sometimes it's. We had a couple of gals in Pittsburgh, but it's just, it's better when they're a little bit closer because then we can do a little bit more hands-on with them.

Speaker 2 4:36

Oh, that's crazy. We've trained a lot.

Speaker 3 4:37

We've trained probably in a year over 50 people at least, at least. But um, yeah, I mean again, right at this point, we have nine that contract and they're at different locations. Um, interesting in pennsylvania, yeah, and so you know, jameika and I and our medical director, especially dr taranath really big into lifestyle medicine, so we were like, okay, how do we introduce this? That was always kind of part of the plan.

Speaker 1 4:59

Sure.

Speaker 3 5:00

So we were at Skin Sanctuary Spa right in West Lawn and decided to move out into a bigger building. So we just send facials and massages back to that day spa.

Speaker 2 5:08

That's cool.

Speaker 3 5:09

Yeah, so you know we brought in the integrative health, which is, you know, the functional medicine piece, the weight loss. We do like nurse health coaching. It's just like you know in Jamaica we'll speak to that with functional medicine and kind of what that looks like.

Speaker 1 5:25

So there's so much with this and it's not something that's been around forever, like I mean I know there's been. Probably pieces of it have been around. I mean, botox has been around forever and we always used to think of Hollywood. Right Now, botox is actually more to the common people if you want to call it that.

Speaker 1 5:41

Seriously years ago it was the stars, I mean, that's what you heard of, and now it's here. There's many people doing it, and so let's just dive into that first, because that's the one that well, actually a lot of things that intrigue me in here, but that's the one that really intrigues me. How did it get to the point where a lot of people are doing it? It's become more accessible.

Speaker 3 6:03

Well, it's definitely become more accessible.

Speaker 1 6:05

Yeah.

Speaker 3 6:05

More people can afford it, but also it's safety record.

Speaker 2 6:08

Right so.

Speaker 3 6:09

I think people a long time ago. It was just lack of education on the topic and things like that Also just kind of marketing. I mean, allergan was amazing. They were the first ones to, you know, market a brand name of Botox, um, and they brought in their Juvederm line and that was the game changer. I mean, that really is what you know, catapulted this industry, you know know, into what it is today and it grows a lot every year so it has also evolved oh so from what?

Speaker 1 6:38

so from what used to be, uh, what we call botox, and botox is. Is that the actual um, that that's not the, the unique name, that's like a name for like a brand it is, so it's kind of like kleenex. It's the same okay so so is there a term for it. That's not botox. What do you call it otherwise?

Speaker 3 6:54

botulinum toxin. Neuromodulators.

Speaker 1 6:56

Yeah, that's probably why they call it Botox, because that is something we're not going to talk about.

Speaker 3 7:00

It's a brilliant name, brilliant yeah.

Speaker 1 7:03

Absolutely so it has evolved.

Speaker 3 7:05

It has, and actually, since Botox came on the market, there's been multiple others that have been created, so it's kind of like the original recipe. So there are better ones out there. We don't use Botox brand. We use one that has a lower immune profile, so that it's a little bit safer and you don't build a tolerance to it. And for people with autoimmune conditions you know, I'm type one diabetic it's a little bit safer. Yeah, so we tried to pick things that are, you know, as closely related to you, know your own body, as possible. Like the filler we use is very closely related to, or looks a lot like, your own hyaluronic acid under a microscope. So we choose those products based on that.

Speaker 1 7:48

That's amazing.

Speaker 3 7:48

But I mean, it's just evolved into a million other things. You know, I mean collagen stimulation being probably one of the new. I hate to call it new, but-.

Speaker 1 7:58

Is that the peptide stuff? No, that's not. It no, no.

Speaker 3 8:02

No, that's more like microneedling, that's like we'll draw your blood and spin it down and get your plasma. It's called PRF.

Speaker 1 8:08

Wow.

Speaker 3 8:09

We'll microneedle that into the skin.

Speaker 1 8:10

That was one of the things Is microneedle that into the skin.

Speaker 3 8:12

That was one of the things.

Speaker 1 8:13

Is that PRF? Yeah, I feel like I'm on a quiz. That's one of the things on my little quiz sheet. So they spin your blood to get your what are you getting out of that?

Speaker 3 8:25

then it's PRF, so it's platelet-rich fibrin, so basically, collagen is built on a fibrin matrix. So we're taking when you do microneedling anyway, it kind of makes your body flood the area that you're microneedling with your body's own PRF but then we're also drawing it out of your bloodstream, spinning it down in a centrifuge and then just adding that much more of that response. So, it just elevates that collagen stimulation.

PRF and Collagen Stimulation

Speaker 1 8:45

That much more. And what is that for then? Is that for wrinkles, or? No, it is, it's for everything it's for everything and when you say everything like give me other things besides wrinkles.

Speaker 2 8:53

So like the hair restoration.

Speaker 1 8:54

Oh, I need that. I did read about that. Let that we need to talk about. Is it really working for hair?

Speaker 2 9:01

restoration. It absolutely is men and women alike, so it's not targeted to just one specific gender either.

Speaker 1 9:08

So what do you do? Is that injected into your scalp?

Speaker 3 9:10

Yes, yep, it is.

Speaker 1 9:12

Wait till they're on. Next time I'm going to have a full head of hair. You go, it's going to be. I'm going to be looking like I used to up there. You know, that's me up there, Just so you know. I showed her oh that's right, you did see. Yeah, yeah, so that is amazing. So that's what that's used for also, right, right, I'm blue.

Speaker 3 9:41

They use it actually in dentistry a lot, and they use it in orthopedics too. So I mean for like post-surgical joint injections.

Speaker 2 9:43

It's kind of I mean, there's nothing more healing, or or more powerful and healing than your own body.

Speaker 3 9:44

It's just under the right circumstances. If you have a healthy body, it's an incredible healing machine.

Speaker 1 9:47

Amazing, yeah, so now what? So tell me, with Botox, how does that work? Are you going to show me with this, this guy that doesn't look so good? Botox.

Speaker 3 9:54

How does that work Are?

Speaker 1 9:55

you going to show me with this, this guy that doesn't look so good. He looks like he had way too many things done to his face.

Speaker 3 10:01

Yeah Well, he's missing his skin, so that's kind of that's a problem, that's a major problem.

Speaker 1 10:03

Um, so really everybody wants to bring it over this way. I think at this point. I know before we told you not to do that Now. Now I think we're and it's everything's a little opposite here. So it's there, you go, there, you go. There he is. Let's call him Stanley. How about that? Yeah, stanley is here. I have a nephew named Stanley.

Speaker 3 10:18

That might be a little weird.

Speaker 1 10:19

Okay.

Speaker 3 10:19

Okay, so Stanley. So basically, a lot of people think because your skin you know the wrinkles relax and everything that you know, people think that you're tightening something. You're actually relaxing the muscle. So repetitive facial movement over time is what makes static lines. So when you move your eyebrows up and down and you have lines that form, those are dynamic. But if you do that through your lifetime, those muscles just stay strong. You're going to create static lines, meaning that you'll get the lines at rest.

Speaker 1 10:48

Right.

Speaker 3 10:49

So it's super preventative in that. So what we do basically is very strategic points. It's very very strategic. People don't realize that, because when you hit one part of a muscle, another muscle might engage. That's near it. So it's very strategically placed that there's a lot to it. When we train people, they're always like wow, I had no idea.

Speaker 1 11:06

Yeah because it always looks to me that they're just poking it right in this, in the wrinkles, in the wrinkles here. No, not like that at all. It's all based. This is why I don't do it. Right, yeah, we can train you.

Speaker 3 11:16

I mean it's not legal, but we can train you so, and honestly I mean, you can treat so many different muscles in the whole face. I mean Jamaica and I know every muscle in the face of my heart. You know and we know the action of every muscle, because you can do just so many cool things with raising eyebrows up, opening up the eyes more, tightening up the chin and the jawline. I mean there's just so much.

Speaker 1 11:37

This seems like I need a lot of this stuff. Seriously, everything you're saying, I'm like, yep, I can use that. Yeah, I can use that. Honestly, everybody could Holy crap, you really could. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 11:47

And younger people are doing it because we know that if you keep that muscle relaxed and it can't fully engage, it's not going to keep reinforcing those lines. So, you know, I started doing it at 35.

Speaker 1 11:57

But is there a point and this is stuff that you hear, you know is there a point where it looks like the person has no expression on their face? If you do it that way, if you do it that way so you could do it to the. You can do it to somebody's face where it's like like they don't look like they can smile anymore.

Speaker 2 12:10

Right, you can freeze somebody's face if you want to. No, that's not good.

Speaker 3 12:13

You absolutely could. No, that's not good. You know some people like that.

Speaker 2 12:17

Yeah, some people do, but for the most part, if it's done correctly, no, it just looks like, hey, you're taking care of yourself.

Speaker 1 12:24

Your skin looks great, you just look like you're doing something. Now do you use it?

Speaker 3 12:28

Of course, yes, I use a lot more because I'm much older. I'm much older than Jamaica, so I'm often the guinea pig in our projects.

Speaker 1 12:38

So she's the one that's like I'll do it on her.

Speaker 3 12:40

She needs it. I'm usually volunteering. She's always yeah, Practice on me.

Speaker 1 12:44

Let's do it. Oh my goodness, that's great. So you're picking out the muscles that need to be relaxed, right, and then that's what makes it that the now, how long does that muscle relax for?

Speaker 3 12:59

Well, typically, I mean, it depends on dosing and everything but most people get about three or four months out of it. We concentrate our products so we try to get a little bit more out of that. So we're we're looking at like usually our clients will call to reschedule around the four or four or five month mark.

Speaker 1 13:08

Wow Interesting.

Speaker 3 13:09

Yeah, it's, it's really cool. It's, it's really cool.

Speaker 1 13:11

It's very. Is it all of a sudden just go and it's back to normal? Or is it over time? It's just kind of gradual. That would be weird, right? All of a sudden, you're having dinner, you're having dinner with somebody else on their face goes and they're like all wrinkly and old looking.

Speaker 3 13:22

Although it doesn't happen like that, mentally it happens.

Speaker 1 13:37

Look in the mirror. You wake up one. So that's what that? So let's go into some of the stuff that you're doing. We'll get into what you're doing. You're doing the integrative health part of it, correct?

Speaker 2 13:42

Correct.

Speaker 1 13:42

Yes, tell me more about that.

Functional Medicine Approach

Speaker 2 13:44

So put Stanley away. Mary and I actually both do this. But but the integrative health is more that functional medicine. Functional medicine is considered root cause medicine, a little bit different than conventional medicine. I think of it as a triangle for functional medicine. So you have optimization at the top, you have conventional on the left and you have holistic on the right. So all three together is what gets you the best health outcomes and optimization in your health. So that's what integrative health is focusing on optimization in your health. So that's what integrative health is focusing on. We're focusing on getting answers and increasing that health span, not just the lifespan.

Speaker 1 14:20

So I it's more about quality than quantity. Exactly.

Speaker 2 14:24

So you know, you can have 78 years of life right Right now. Now these numbers are skewed by COVID, but because of our lifespan, it was what? 78 years, I believe, um for women. And then our health span was 60 to 63.

Speaker 1 14:40

So you get 60 good years.

Speaker 2 14:41

So you know, most people spend those years working.

Speaker 1 14:44

I'm almost there.

Speaker 2 14:44

Right, and then after that they're spending their time in waiting rooms surgeries doctor's offices, appointments you know pharmacies, so they were finding that patients weren't actually having a good health span. You know pharmacies, so they were finding that patients weren't actually having a good health span.

Speaker 1 14:57

you know they'd get up, and what's interesting about that is those are the years that you retire right, exactly so all of a sudden. You work your whole life and you retire and now um you're. You're really not having a good time.

Speaker 2 15:09

You're just sick all the time. Yeah, it's crazy. Functional medicine, kind of, is that next step to help patients increase that health span?

Speaker 1 15:17

And what does that mean? What does that mean for me?

Speaker 2 15:19

So well? Essentially, we would look at you know. Say you have these diagnosis. Say you have an issue with gut health. Say we're concerned. You know everything you're eating just making you not feel good. You're feeling tired, you're feeling sick, brain fog, things like that. The functional standpoint will look at what's going on inside of the gut, whereas the conventional standpoint when you say, gut, we're talking stomach, right.

Speaker 1 15:40

And small intestines, probably Small intestines. Everything, yes, so.

Speaker 2 15:42

And small intestines, probably Small intestines everything, yes, so we're looking at stool samples, we're looking at bacteria, we're looking at permeability of the intestines. So I don't know if you've ever heard of something called leaky gut syndrome.

Speaker 1 15:53

There's a doctor I just listened to on Ed Milet's show and he goes into this.

Speaker 1 15:57

It was an hour of him talking about the whole gut thing and the antibiotics and what we've done with antibiotics and how we're overusing them and how you know it used to be. The one thing that was amazing to me is how we used to have an antibiotic that was cultured for one certain thing and then they came up with an antibiotic which, basically, he said, was like taking a machine gun and blowing away all your good bacteria and bad. Yeah, the broad span, that's it. Broad spectrum Talked about that. And then he was talking about the postbiotic, which is yogurt, kimchi and sauerkraut. Yep, you know I learned a lot, just as our parent, but it was amazing. That's the stuff he talked about. The leaky gut and they're finding out a lot of mental health has to do with that. Absolutely, because it does your serotonin, it kills your seroton that to work. So, yeah, hugo's shaking his head over there, he's, he's into this.

Speaker 3 16:45

I can tell it is fascinating, so keep going.

Speaker 1 16:49

So that that's part of what you work on or that you look at.

Speaker 2 16:52

I do, yeah. So we kind of look at the body as a whole. We're looking at you not as just a patient, we're looking at your story. So sometimes, like talking with patients, I can be in a room for about an hour and 15 hour and 30 minutes getting a full story as to where did all of this come from?

Speaker 1 17:08

And there's a lot for me. It's a lot right. But, it all plays into one. You know it all plays into each other, but if you go to see your regular family physician.

Speaker 2 17:17

Do you start? From the beginning with him.

Speaker 1 17:19

Well, I've known him from the beginning, so I've known him for a long time. But yeah, but no, you're right, Absolutely.

Speaker 2 17:26

And that's kind of where we differ in that integrative health approach.

Speaker 1 17:30

Preventative.

Speaker 2 17:31

Yeah, and whole body preventative right.

Speaker 3 17:33

From the relationships in your life all the way down to how often you're going to the bathroom. I mean, honestly, it's just because it's you know, it's all encompassing.

Speaker 1 17:41

Absolutely. Mental health is the is the big thing that I think everybody's talking about today. I mean a lot of it. We always thought that mental health was just all up in the brain. It's not. They're saying from the gut I mean, there's things that we, that we are not um cultivating or we're killing. That doesn't, that doesn't, yeah, and that's why we have people on anxiety medicines, on ADHD and all these things. So they're they're just, I think, on the cusp of finding out what's going to happen with all that stuff.

Speaker 2 18:05

I think it's just starting. I think this is the way that medicine is going to go. Functional and integrative is the way that it's going to go.

Speaker 1 18:11

But they say there's trillions of bacteria in your gut, trillions Right, right Like that to me it's funny.

Speaker 3 18:18

They'll show these maps of the gut microbiome diversity.

Speaker 1 18:22

Yeah.

Speaker 3 18:23

And that in gut microbiome diversity and that, like in, you know areas where they're eating more all natural foods and things like that their gut microbiome is so much more diverse. And then you'll look at somebody from our area, you know, and it's really. There's just not as much diversity and we need that. I mean it really is like an ecosystem in your gut. And so all of these things processed foods? I mean it's awful what it does to the gut lining and so many of us walk around honestly with unhealthy guts and it creates this whole autoimmune.

Speaker 1 18:57

I mean there's just all of these other issues that come from having an unhealthy gut, and that's also where they're thinking that part of you know the what's it called.

Speaker 3 19:03

Gluten, gluten. Thank you, yeah, of, uh, you know the, uh, the, what's it called.

Speaker 1 19:05

Gluten. Thank you, yeah, how can I forget that? It's like the word of the 10 years century. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. So that's what you're working on. So you do a whole breakdown then with somebody.

The Four Horsemen of Health

Speaker 2 19:13

Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, we start from the beginning, we do a whole breakdown and then we work to fix problem by problem. You know, focus on what's causing the most issues for a patient and then correcting things from there, because if you the body likes to be calibrated it will like homeostasis. It likes to be balanced. So if we focus on the one thing that's making it the most unbalanced, all of the other things start to kind of fall back in line over time.

Speaker 1 19:37

That's amazing, Very cool. Let's go into. You brought a book here that you talked about. It was called the four horsemen and it was interesting. A book here that you talked about. It was called the Four Horsemen and it was interesting. I just looked at a little bit about it, but it talks about the four horsemen and what I guess is heart disease, cancer, neuro degenerative, like Alzheimer's. And then also type 2 diabetes. So obviously are those like the four things that are basically the big killers and 80% preventable. Yeah, Isn't that amazing? Yeah, Honestly.

Speaker 3 20:09

I mean we, just we, we we managed to heal so many people with antibiotics and with sterile technique and all of that Um and um kind of, you know, really solving a lot of the main killers from centuries ago and then we just created new ones and it's so behavioral, you know, so related to behavioral health. I mean it's just you know the actions and the choices that you make from.

Speaker 3 20:32

You know your day-to-day decisions about what you put in your body and your activity level, and here they're the leading causes of death, I mean it's just it's, it's really unfortunate.

Speaker 1 20:59

So Dr Atiyah talks about that a lot in his book and what you see, the neurodegenerative disease, is that Alzheimer's. You said Alzheimer's.

Speaker 3 21:06

Yes, right, Alzheimer's dementia.

Speaker 1 21:08

Amazing and because that kills too Absolutely. I mean obviously it does. Yeah, it's amazing. Heart disease is big. I have high blood pressure. I've had it since I was 30 years old, right, and that's killing you.

Speaker 3 21:29

So a lot of it just comes down to the basics, right, it's just. It's honestly. People complicate things, even like all these biohackers who were bringing all this attention to this world, which is amazing. The Brian Johnson have you heard of Brian Johnson? It's interesting to watch, but I mean it's all encompassing of his life, like everything he does is trying to promote longevity. It doesn't have to be that hard.

Speaker 1 21:53

It could literally just be removing processed foods from your home doing some sort of level of activity, but that's harder than what you think, though. We are a busy people. We are, I mean. I just look at our family with two kids. You know we have a nine-year-old, 12-year-old, soon to be 10, and 13, and dance games, all these things going on. There are times when you just got to throw something in the microwave and eat because you know, yes, you could grab an apple, grab whatever, but you know that doesn't always happen.

Speaker 3 22:21

So food prepping is huge, right. So taking that time, everything you know, people will often say to me oh, I don't have time to cause I do the nurse. Health coaching part. So, Jamaica is a nurse practitioner. She'll meet with the client, order lab work and do all of that. And then I meet with them twice a month, sometimes weekly, and just kind of like review all of those sorts of things.

Speaker 1 22:41

And they'll say to me like I don't have time for that and I'm like I mean like I just did, yeah, yeah, and I'm like, I promise you, why didn't you just say hey? And there's people like you right?

Speaker 3 22:51

No, it's, it's a common thing, but it's all like priorities.

Speaker 1 22:55

Right.

Speaker 3 22:55

And so you know you can function so much better um in your life, in that busy lifestyle, if you prioritize that right um, so you know it's it really. It can be so simple and if you make it just a part of your new life, you know what I mean if you just transition yourself, then that becomes normal, sure?

Speaker 3 23:14

so it's just that we, you know, we've created this normalcy in fast food, in not sitting down for family meals like well, that we do, and actually most of our meals we do sit down and eat dinner, even when we're busy.

Speaker 1 23:27

We try to Sometimes Catherine's on her thing, doing whatever her thing is, and then she'll eat when she comes back or whatever. But we typically Jess typically prepares a meal almost every night.

Speaker 2 23:35

Except for.

Speaker 3 23:35

Friday and Saturday of course, friday and Saturday.

Speaker 1 23:37

Those are like the days you kind of just do whatever. But no, we do, and it's usually broccoli and salads, things like that, and then also chicken and things like that. No, we're not. We're not doing as bad as you think. I mean, I'm feeling guilty sitting here. I really do. I knew it was going to go this way. In my head I'm going oh God, I do that. Oh geez, I do that too. Oh my gosh, I do that. Yeah, but if you followed me around, you'd be like he is bad. He's really bad.

Speaker 3 24:02

I try to tell people look, if 80 to 90, 90% is ideal, but 80% of the time if you're doing a good job day to day and you know what I mean, then that definitely is contributing to the health the exercise part, you know? Look, I'm like I get up at 5am. I go to the 6am workout because I'm at work all day long and I know that's a lot, but you know that's like a whole hour of intense exercise. Like it doesn't have to be that much.

Speaker 1 24:26

I do 40 minutes on the treadmill, fast walk.

Speaker 3 24:29

That's my thing. I got to do that too. Yeah, that's really good, jesus, I feel like I'm being drilled. No, no, no, no hey.

Speaker 1 24:36

Hugo, worst show ever You're putting yourself.

Speaker 3 24:38

Uh, you won't be invited back. You're making yourself vulnerable.

Speaker 1 24:41

Holy shit, I look like this guy now I know, oh my gosh, Now this guy's lifting weights.

Speaker 3 24:46

His muscles are big.

Speaker 1 24:47

Obviously, obviously. Well, here I'll lift the eight ball. There you go, perfect, there you go. But no, I know weightlifting. I used to do all that shit, I mean it gets out of your life.

Speaker 3 24:59

And the thing is people think like, oh, I'll just walk on the treadmill and all day long.

Speaker 1 25:02

Well, I didn't even do that up until two years ago, but that's good, yeah, so it's getting there, it's getting there, but the weightlifting on so many other levels is just that much better.

Speaker 3 25:11

I mean like even just in managing or preventing type two diabetes. Glucose is taken up in the muscle first.

Speaker 1 25:17

Interesting.

Speaker 3 25:28

So if you are trying to control and that's me, being type 1 diabetic, I'm very big on weight lifting because I know that my body is, my metabolism is going to be better.

Speaker 1 25:31

Yeah, my um, you know, my blood sugar management is going to be better, awesome. So. So that's the thing. The it's, it's having more muscle mass so that the glucose is is for a million reasons.

Speaker 3 25:37

Amazing, even for women who are menopausal. And bones too. I heard your bones right yeah that's right.

Speaker 2 25:41

That's right, that's right, amazing yeah.

Speaker 1 25:45

Shoes a lot. I'll tell you, can we get into something that's? That's more fun for?

Speaker 3 25:48

me. I don't have anything fun on the list.

GLP-1 and Weight Loss Discussion

Speaker 1 25:52

I've noticed that. I've noticed that, um, the party was a lot more fun. I just said, yeah, it was a lot more fun there. Uh, but no, let's get into the GLP one, the weight loss phenomenon thing. You hear good things, you hear bad things, you hear all kinds of things. I was reading even more of it just before you guys got here. I was reading up on a little bit more and didn't realize that that actually is one that they're also. Hypertension is kind of covered in that and I'm guessing that's because of the weight loss.

Speaker 2 26:19

I'm thinking maybe I don't know it is a cardioprotective drug.

Speaker 1 26:23

It does help support the heart, which can help lower your blood pressure, but isn't there a lot of other stuff that's bad with that or not? I mean, you hear all kinds of things.

Speaker 2 26:29

I think it's no-transcript and it's well. Why do they have to do that? You know they're. They're not going to continue to lose weight. They're going to plateau at some point.

Speaker 1 27:36

But as soon as they come off the medication, then you have to worry about that.

Speaker 2 27:37

Like if somebody comes in, what do they? What do you tell them? 10 pounds, 20 pounds it's a very variable. So like I've seen patients lose, like my, like my family members have lost 60 pounds on this medication well, then that becomes a major uh help to your health, right it? Does, and then it's okay. Now we're at the point.

Speaker 2 27:49

Now you need to sustain the weight and stay off this medication because you don't want to be on this forever gotcha um, so transitioning them to other supportive measures like diet and exercise peptides oral peptides are really big too, to help with some of that weight loss.

Speaker 1 28:01

I brought up the peptides earlier. That was a word. They just take something like that collagen peptide.

Speaker 2 28:08

It's great yep does that come from a

Speaker 1 28:10

cow. Is that where it comes from?

Speaker 2 28:12

so it depends on what kind you're using it had had a cow on it. It had a cow on it and it said grass fed, they're mostly bovine.

Speaker 1 28:19

Pretty sure they didn't put the cow in there just for the hell of it. Or is the cow taking it too.

Speaker 3 28:25

Yeah, exactly. Or you want to look like a cow. You want to be as strong as a cow.

Speaker 1 28:29

I don't know she puts that in her. I guess her water or something. My wife's a lot healthier than I am. She's really good at all, so she should have been the one doing this interview.

Speaker 3 28:37

It would be a lot better actually Listen.

Speaker 1 28:40

Her skin is perfection she looks amazing, she does, she looks great, she takes care of herself, she does. So the GLP-1, so you're getting a lot of people coming in for that, obviously.

Speaker 2 28:51

Yeah, just listening to what they have to say, it's like maybe you don't need that medication, you don't need to go through that drastic dropping of weight, and it does have side effects right.

Speaker 1 29:00

So the first thing it attacks is your GI system. That's the first thing it goes after.

Speaker 2 29:05

And not. A lot of patients want to feel like crampy abdomens all day long or feel like they have diarrhea or nausea right.

Speaker 1 29:12

Nobody wants to feel that way Not good for work. Right exactly.

Speaker 3 29:17

So you know it's, but we microdose to try to prevent that.

Speaker 3 29:19

So, we're, like you know, safely two to three pounds a week, so we don't let people drop off that much weight that quickly. So we, like the way we have our memberships is if somebody has a decent amount of weight to lose, like we're looking at six months or something, because you know we're we're coaching them through it and we don't want them to go off the medicine and gain the weight right back. So so, yeah, so we do like a micro dosing. We're very like cautious and gentle about it and there's a lot of monitoring that goes into it, because otherwise I mean you see this happening where people are buying it like street drugs with no monitoring.

Speaker 2 29:51

That scares me the most.

Speaker 1 29:52

Oh yeah, monitoring that scares me the most. Oh yeah, that's, it's crazy, exactly. Yeah, it's like for business. They come to us and they're like my cheeks are gone and we're like well, we're gonna put a lot of filler in there, yeah, exactly so I'm like sure we're gonna give you the glp-1 and then you're gonna need stuff to make it look like you have a little weight on not our people, but hey, people on the outside coming in.

Speaker 3 30:10

You know, yeah, it has a name.

Speaker 2 30:11

It's called a zempic face.

Speaker 1 30:13

Oh my God, what it does. It makes them very drawn. I've noticed that.

Speaker 3 30:17

Because you lose your fat pads.

Speaker 1 30:18

You lose those fat pads. You have fat pads in your face.

Speaker 3 30:19

That hold things up.

Speaker 1 30:20

Wow, yeah, they're important. So much for the fat pads, huh.

Red Light Therapy Benefits

Speaker 3 30:23

I know you can't win, right, you just can't win. So, what are mean biohacking? Basically, they talk a lot about just cellular health and regeneration, which is, I mean, there is a lot of research based on that. That's like the whole red light therapy.

Speaker 1 30:45

Yes, so let's talk about that too. Let's, let's get into that before we end up. I want to talk about that. Yeah, the red light therapy. So this to me it came out of nowhere and of course I think right away witchcraft. You know, I'm like okay, here we go. Here's another thing that they're gonna tell me that's gonna do something and you know does. Is this real?

Speaker 3 31:05

it is absolutely real. There's a tremendous amount of research you know from. I mean you could look up national institute of health and there's like thousands of why did we just discover this now, though?

Speaker 1 31:15

like Like. Who came up with this?

Speaker 3 31:17

I think it just became more readily available and somebody probably took the technology and was like oh, we can make money.

Speaker 2 31:24

I mean capitalism just will catapult Absolutely.

Speaker 3 31:27

Yeah, so I think that's more so, you know, and then plus two like other companies coming in and saying, hey, we can make these machines and sell them, and we can sell them to med spas. It looks like a tanning bed. In a way it's similar.

Speaker 2 31:37

Yeah very similar and you lay in there right and you do yep, and it gets nice and hot, nice and warm.

Speaker 1 31:43

I used to do tanning years ago. See, I'm telling you I'm like sinful. Already I owned a tanning salon here in town and um, but it's funny, you know, I learned a lot about stuff, a lot of things about skin and all that stuff. Um, but with the red light thing, that's not. It's actually good for you, it's amazing. It's amazing for you.

Speaker 3 32:03

Yeah, so it just basically all of these treatment modalities NAD injections, hyperbaric oxygen chambers, red light therapy uh, they all stimulate your mitochondria to produce more energy. So as we age, and especially in people with chronic conditions, your mitochondria stink. They just don't make as much energy Like your 10-year-old self would have made a ton of energy in your cells compared to yourself now.

Speaker 3 32:24

So basically, when those mitochondria do not function in a healthy way anymore, like cancer can come out of that metabolic diseases, like nothing in your cell is really functioning quite right, Interesting. So these will stimulate the energy in your cells and it kind of will fix everything. So when people are like, what's the benefit?

Speaker 1 32:40

So it activates them. Is that what it does? It kind of activates them or stimulates them, yeah.

Speaker 2 32:43

It's like a recharge Interesting, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 32:47

I would definitely want to try that one, I want it?

Speaker 2 32:49

Well, obviously, yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 32:50

Depends on the day. Yeah, exactly, I wasn't very electrically charged after the party. Oh no, no, the next morning definitely not.

Speaker 1 32:58

Well, that's when you need to do your IV therapy. Then, exactly, right yeah.

Speaker 3 33:02

You know, we're always hooking each other up, oh, for sure. We don't have our drink really honestly.

Speaker 1 33:16

But we do it if we're not perfect okay, just making sure just making sure 80 to 90 percent okay so there's, there's a 10, 20 that you're like very that things are just off, not gone. It's not good.

Speaker 3 33:26

Yeah, exactly honestly with these clients that come through like I don't have the measure food I don't have it's.

Speaker 1 33:32

It's about Do you like cheesesteaks? Let's just put that out there.

Speaker 3 33:34

I do, but I have celiac, so I can't have gluten yeah.

Speaker 1 33:37

So I know, yeah, yeah, you're not a lot of fun to be with, are you Geez? I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 33:44

So no no bread.

Speaker 1 33:45

No, oh, you can drink wine though, right.

Speaker 3 33:56

Oh, thank God, thank you for not taking that away from me, obviously not too much, it's all in moderation.

Speaker 1 34:00

Well, I'll tell you what this has been awesome. Definitely have to have you guys back, because we talked for 33 minutes, believe it or not, and so we covered a lot. But there's a lot of stuff we can cover, I think on another show and maybe you will be able to do a little Botox on me the next time we'll see either that or just get Hugo to do it. I just don't know what else to do. We'll bring Jess in here.

Speaker 3 34:20

We'll have to give you a couple drinks first.

Speaker 1 34:23

Drinks and Botox. What a combination.

Speaker 3 34:25

Bubbly and Botox.

Speaker 1 34:27

Bubbly and Botox. I love it. That's about it. Thanks guys for coming in. I really appreciate it. Alright coming, I really appreciate it. All right, there you have it skin sanctuary, med, spa and integrative health, mary and jameika. Man, what a great show that was. I did not get botox done, but maybe the next time I will. We'll see. But we weren't. We learned a lot and, uh, I know some things I need to do. I need to lift weights. I gotta do some other things. We'll see. I'll see if we can fit it all in. She says I can, but we'll see. All right, that's about it. See you every thursday at 7 pm, all right, good.