How GLP-1 Peptides And Testosterone Fit Into LIFE Longevity

“What if the health system isn’t designed to keep you healthy?” That question sets the tone as we talk with Jay Campbell (while he was on vacation in Mexico) about what it actually takes to get fully optimized, not just “treated.” We start with Jay’s personal turning point: a sports injury that led to lab work, a shocking testosterone result, and a crash course in hormone optimization that changed how he thinks about energy, pain, mood, and performance.

From there, we get into the real nuts and bolts of peptides and the GLP-1 wave. Jay explains why GLP-1 peptides became mainstream through Ozempic and Wegovy, what they do for appetite and glucose control, and why so many people run into trouble when they treat them like a shortcut. We dig into microdosing, protecting muscle with resistance training, and how “Ozempic face” and other side effects can often come down to high doses and zero lifestyle structure. If you care about metabolic health, insulin resistance, obesity, body composition, and longevity, this conversation connects the dots.

We also go beyond injections and talk biohacking choices that carry real risk or real upside. Jay shares why he’s high on oxygen and ozone hydrotherapy for recovery, sleep, and energy, and why cold plunges can be overrated and even dangerous for unconditioned people. We wrap with Jay’s new book Metabolic Awakening With GLP-1 Peptides and where to get his free resources.

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Transcript

A Different Kind Of Health Talk

SPEAKER_00 0:34

Realistic model as a whole sometimes will affect you know real life. We all learn it. If you think about it, Wayne Dyer might not attract everyone and everyone in between. What's really gonna help people just potential the Brad Wiseman show? And now your host, Brad Wiseman. Alright, we're back. This is gonna be good. This is gonna be different, Hugo. It's a different show. It's a different show. What is it about? Well, it's gonna be a little different. You know, there's a lot of talk on on the street about a lot of different things about peptides and GLP ones and GLP2s and threes and and you know, those kind of things. And then there's also like, you know, testosterone optimization stuff. You hear stuff about, you know, right red light therapies and all these different things. It's a healthy show today. It's gonna be a healthy show. Well, this guy has all this stuff together, even consciousness. Like he's into you know, energy and and mindset, things like that. But we are gonna get into some of the stuff that I don't understand, which are some of the first things we talked about there. And then we're gonna just go where it goes like we normally do. All right, all right, cool. So let's bring Jay Campbell on here. He's joining us from Mexico. Oh, we lost him that's a good one. He's joining us from Mexico on vacation. So it's so kind to you to take this time to, you know, still hang out with us for a good, you know, 25, 30 minutes. This is great.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Yeah, thank you for the opportunity. You and I exchanged the first couple emails. I knew you had an awesome personality, so I was like, I've been looking forward to this, so it's gonna be an epic show, but thank you so much for having me.

The Injury That Led To TRT

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Awesome, man. Awesome. I appreciate that. We're looking forward to it. So, yeah, you know what's funny? The the thing that says on your website is it says, get fully optimized. You know, that is just it's kind of says everything in in one in three words. You know, like you're you're all about that. Like you're looking at optimizing in every realm, whether whether it's sleep, whether it's in your your sex life, whether it's in your your you know, mindset, you're hitting all areas. And and I'm just how did you get into this work? Let's talk about that, and then we'll get into some of the work that you do. How did you get into this? Did you wake up at you know, coming out of 12th grade in high school, going, Oh, I want to do this?

Physiology Meets Consciousness And Purpose

SPEAKER_02 2:49

No. So, I mean, I was always so first off, I was the oldest of nine children. I've always been an athlete, was a college basketball player, played baseball, soccer, and basketball in high school, was really good at basketball and soccer, but chose to play basketball in college. At 29, I was still playing competitively in adult men's leagues in Southern California, and I got kicked in the testicles in a game. And I checked myself out. And about six, eight, seven months later, excuse me, weeks later, uh, I started feeling really run down. So at the time I was working as a salesperson for the Los Angeles Times, and I went to my PPO doctor. And as I like to think, and no, now it's really no, there's nothing, there's no coincidences in the universe, only synchronicities. This guy recommended me to a Harvard-trained, uh, world-renowned actually endocrinologist. And in Southern California, that happens all the time, right? You've got all these famous people, sure, physicians, subject matter experts are just randomly located. So, anyway, this guy's name was Dr. Raymond Scruggs. I went to see him. He took my labs and he said, Look, you have the testosterone levels of a you know, an 85-year-old geriatric. You know, you're 29 years old. I can put you on therapeutic testosterone and I'll have you ride his reign in eight to 10 weeks. But before you say yes, go home and get the you know affirmation and approval of your wife to be, who at the time was my uh fiance, and she was my first, and she's long gone. So I always say, shout out to her, Kelly, for being there when that happened. But she was like, Yeah, you know, we're both smart people, we don't have kids, let's do it. So anyway, I went on it and like I went to see him about eight weeks later, and he wanted to take me off. And I and in in the eight weeks that I was on, I felt completely transformed. I mean, all the low back pain and the debilitating stuff that I had started feeling from the testicle injury, I guess, went away. And he wanted to take me off, and I'm like, bro, you're not taking me off this. This is the greatest thing ever. So from that point forward, Rad, I started becoming this like very studious guy of like learning about therapeutic testosterone. And at the same time that I was doing that, I also was, you know, learning about therapeutic peptides. Now, this is early 2000s, you know, and as I like to tell people, at that time, the signal-to-noise ratio on the internet was purely signal. Yeah. Whereas now, you know, fast forward today, it's mostly noise. It's very hard to find actually good quality information. But back then, it was people like me crowdsourcing or cloud sourcing their information, you know, on these anonymous use net groups and forums. And everybody was sharing about what they were doing. You know, for me, it was therapeutic hormones, and then I started experimenting with peptides. So, to make a very long story short and fast forward, I wrote my first book in 2015. It actually was written in 14, but came out in 15. And subsequently, I've written now this the newest book that's coming out or will be out by the time this podcast runs, uh, is called Metabolic Awakening with the GLP1 peptides. I've just been blessed to meet a lot of amazing people, podcast hosts such as yourself, great doctors, subject matter experts, influencers in the biohacking space, because now I've done so much from writing, from publishing, from selling companies, building companies, architecting companies. And here I am today, you know, with you. I'll be 55 actually on February 24th. And the book is coming out sometime right around then. And I know this podcast, when it publishes, will be already the book will be in the marketplace by the time this book podcast publishes. So uh I'm just very blessed and very grateful. And I think just to arc it together, when you learn how to physiologically master, you know, your anatomy, your physiology, there's a spiritual context that comes in. And I think you really become much more connected to what what I would call is what is, or you know, Christ consciousness, universal awareness. There's a lot of different things. People call it God, you know.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

I love that Christ consciousness. That is, I don't think I've ever heard that term like that.

SPEAKER_02 6:43

Oh, yeah, that's uh that's a very well-known term in in the spiritual community. But basically, Christ consciousness really means that you have an understanding that we're all connected. Yeah. That at a cellular soul energy level, everybody is connected. And if you understand that, why would you want to trample another life form or another being, right? So it's like once you get that awareness, you kind of have a better understanding of like what your purpose is. And I think that all of us truly do have a purpose of serving at a greater good and helping others, you know, in a way that, you know, is best suited to us because we all have unique skills, talents, and advantages.

Why The System Avoids Prevention

SPEAKER_00 7:20

Yeah, it's so true. That's that's that's great. It's it's not what I thought we were gonna be talking about, but that's great. And I and I I agree with you 100%. I mean, we just I think that's pretty much the mantra that of the guests that we've been having on lately are are that kind of that's what we're talking about. We're all connected, there's energy there, you know, the the consciousness is is is important. And I think obviously the work that you do, you know, with the the health stuff that you're into. I one of the things I thought that was really cool that you said here too was oh, where's it at here? There was something about the there's no profit in health or something like that you had said. There's no profit in in keeping people healthy. What it what it what do you mean by that? Because that's an interesting concept. And I think we're hearing more and more about that. I mean, whether you like them or not, I mean, RFK Jr.'s been bringing that to the forefront uh as far as you know the amount of the amount of you know shots that our kids are getting, things like that. So tell me what you what you mean by that. You know, there's no problem.

SPEAKER_02 8:17

RFK and RF friends and RFK. Oh, get out of here. Cool. R RFK uses my testosterone protocol.

SPEAKER_00 8:22

Oh, no way. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

Yeah, so and RFK is a beast. I don't know if you saw the recent. He's unbelievable. He did 20 pull-ups. I saw that.

SPEAKER_00 8:31

Yeah, because JD, they all they all did them. Didn't JD Vance do some or somebody? There was a bunch of them that didn't. No, RFK did the most, actually, I think out of all of them.

SPEAKER_02 8:39

RFK is a beast, but and he's a great guy and he's doing a lot. And obviously, he's in a very corrupt system, as you know. But yeah, the easiest way to answer what you said is, and I tell people this all the time, whenever I lecture or speak, if you went to your PPO or your HMO or just your family doctor, and you said, Hey, doc, I want you to help me live to 125. They would literally look at you, A, like you're crazy. Yeah. And B, they'd be like, What you talking about? What's the matter with you? Why are you here? Because they're not in the business of optimizing your health. They are in the business of treating your symptoms or disease manifestations or whatever it is. Again, I call it sick care, illness medicine. So we have to understand that none of those guys, you know, no matter how well educated, where they went to medical school, you know, who who they got their, you know, undergrad certifications from, they're not in the business of optimizing your health. They're in the business of treating symptoms, illness, and disease. So we have to understand that, like, if you truly, as you get older, want to avoid them, you have to take ownership of your health. And I like to call it the become the personal scientist of your own health. And in order to do that, you have to learn about all these things that we may be talking about here, like peptides, bioregulators, therapeutic hormones, small molecules, you know, living insulin controlled, specific supplements that will help you do all these things. Because if you don't, you are going to be a statistic, at least the probability is, and again, I always tell people this the statistic is this, and most people don't know this, but if you suffer a heart attack or some sort of major illness event in midlife, the likelihood that you will end up in medical bank bankruptcy is 67%.

SPEAKER_01 10:28

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 10:28

So when people say this to me, they say, you know, and I can't afford that. You know, I can only afford my co-payment and my insurance subrogated medical care, which again is sick care. Then I always say, no, you can't afford not to do the other path because if you do suffer the fate, which many people do, like that, again, statistically says you will, then you're going to be bankrupt.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 10:49

So it's like you don't want to deal with that. You don't want to deal with that life flight or that critical, you know, Medivac, you know, emergency taking you to a hospital and then being in urgent care for a month or two weeks or three weeks or any of that stuff. I mean, granted, we all have to potentially deal with getting, you know, being in a car crash and having to be life lighted or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

But that's not that's not preventable, really. I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

You can mitigate a heart attack, cancer diagnosis, type 2 diabetes, type 3 diabetes, which is obviously neurodegenerative disease, all those things are mitigatable, but you have to change your lifestyle in order to avoid that. And again, most people in today's modern day society are not willing to quote unquote do the work.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Yeah. Yeah, it's it's true, very true. So, do you so the insurance companies don't cover a lot of the stuff that you are they cover nothing. Yeah, they don't cover anything. That's what I thought. Because once again, they're not they're not about preventative, they're reactive. They're gonna they're gonna cover reactive medicine.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

Exactly. And that's why I always tell people if you're gonna live in this lifestyle that I obviously preach and teach, you know, you have to be very cautious and careful, even when you're doing your life insurance premiums, because you can't tell them about the medications that you may be taking for life extension or for longevity purposes, because they mark them as taking for illness.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 12:07

So a lot of the things like peptides, like metformin, like therapeutic testosterone, you would be marked down and sick according to their broken disease management system versus somebody like you know, anybody doing what I recommend, which again is, you know, there's no debate that it extends life, you would be looked at the opposite. So that's how broken the system is. Everything is really an inversion of reality. But most people are so caught up in survival programming, as you know, you know, to pay the bills, to keep the mortgage afloat, to get the kids off to school, do all those things that they can't really be anything but reactive.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Yeah. But do you think, do you think they also a lot of times people will look at somebody like yourself? We just had somebody on not too long ago, too, that was talking about some of the same stuff. I don't recall his name, but uh, do they look at you as being a conspira a health conspiracy theorist?

SPEAKER_02 12:56

No, because I am a conspiracy analyst, because there's no difference now in anything about conspiracy other than six months, it's proven true, right? Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Very it's it's so true. Yeah, reminds me of COVID. Because that was all real. That was all real.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

Oh, by the way, I mean, because we don't know each other, but my business partner, I saw I sold a company in 2022 for a good bit of money. It was called Assir Custom. And we were the first company that had two patented hairy growth peptide-based products and a face facial uh rejuvenation product, and they were peptide-based, and we had patents, and so we were able to sell the company for a lot of money. But what people don't know is that he was one of the first biochemistslash molecular engineers to design mRNA proteins, and so he knew all about mRNA vaccines. And so in 2018 and 2019, when him and I first founded the company, just out of the blue, he told me, he's like, Hey, by the way, don't ever get an mRNA vaccine or a vaccine. Don't ever. He just started telling me that. I'm like, so why? And then we got into the whys, and then everything happened five or six years later. Amazing. But he was literally telling people in 2019 and 2020, again, his nickname is Nick Andrews. You can Google him, look him up, that if you got an mRNA vaccination, you would not live for beyond five or seven years. And the reason was it's because in all of the animal studies, there were no third-order effects. Because why? Because all the animals died.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

Oh, geez. Yeah, thanks for telling me this now. I really appreciate this.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

Well, here's the truth about this, though, because a lot of people don't know this. The vaccine, COVID vaccination program was a gigantic global placebo-run program to kill people. So if you if you got the actual death shot, and by the way, there are now peer-reviewed science-based studies in Europe where they tracked all the lot numbers of all the bad batches. So if you really wanted to do your digging and do your own homework, you could actually find out if you if you received the vaccine, and it doesn't matter whether it was Moderna, it was Pfizer, or it was Johnson and Johnson, you could track back if you got the bad batch number. And this is what I tell people all the time. And again, a lot of people don't know this. If you got the bad shot, you could still be alive right now, but you would have suffered one of two things. You would have suffered palsy, and it would have been severe palsy for within 24 to 36 hours post-shot, or you would have had a severe autoimmune flare-up within 72 hours of the shot, too. And now, again, there's a lot of people that will probably be listening to this that have suffered these things.

SPEAKER_01 15:34

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 15:34

But the good news is that only 15% of the world got the actual bad shot.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

So good. Hopefully, I get hopefully I'm good. I got the good shot, and this is good.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Most people got saline pushes. Otherwise, we'd have a lot more dead people on the way.

Peptides Explained And GLP-1 Basics

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Wow, that's incredible. Wow, information. That's incredible information, I'll tell you. Unbelievable. So then let's get into the peptide. I mean, I hear this stuff all the time. I think my wife is taking some type of peptide that she puts in her drink. Is that possible for her skin or for something?

SPEAKER_02 16:04

Is that something she puts on her face? It's probably a transverse.

SPEAKER_00 16:07

Probably for her face, yes. Yeah. So it's for every, I mean, it you can use it for pretty much a lot of different things. But what's the main, what's the main focus for it?

SPEAKER_02 16:16

I mean, it just depends on what you're looking for. There's peptides for every level of the world, right? Like fat loss, cognition improvement, healing, longevity. You've got the GLP peptides for obviously, you know, insulin regulation and and and metabolic dysregulation improvement, fat loss. So there's a there's really peptide for pretty much everything. And where did they come from?

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Like it just seems like now you said you've been doing this stuff since early 2000, or you knew about it. Like this to me is we think as as a non-per, you know, I don't know this stuff. It feels like it just came out like four years ago.

SPEAKER_02 16:50

So here's the stats. And by the way, I'm in I'm in a documentary that will be coming out at some point, either later this year or in early 2027. It's called Peptide Society. And as you just said, I'm one of the first people probably in the world to ever use peptides. I started using them in 2020. I mean, uh, it's 2003. Wow. And this is again in the infancy of biohacking. At the same time, I was learning about therapeutic hormones. But truthfully, 1% of the global world society right now knows what a peptide is. And of that 1%, and I know this facts from our documentary, of that 1% of people that know what it is, less than a half a percent of those people are using peptides. So if you're using peptides right now, you are in a very, very small league of your own class. Now, the GLP one, the GLP peptides, which is the great majority of people's exposure to peptides, which you know, people know them as like Wagovi or Montaro or Zeppound or any of these things, you know, they even call them the appetite suppression shot. There's so many nicknames in mainstream society for them. Those are appetite suppression, glucose controlling, diabetes-regulating medications, which is what they were initially designed for. But as I said, my book will obviously be out by the time this podcast publishes. Uh, it's called Metabolic Awakening with GLP peptides. It's over 700 pages, it's got 1,300 scientific uh citations in it, zero AI use, and it's the most conclusive, authoritative book you know ever written on the GLP phenomenon. And it conclusively goes through the negative, you know, mainstream news and side effects on like how people use them incorrectly. And then it, you know, over the course of the book, you learn how to use them correctly. And when I mean correctly, I mean within the context of health and longevity, dosed appropriately, which is microdoses, versus what pharma wants you to dose, which is high, so they can make more money and then keep titrating you higher and higher. But when you learn how to use those peptides, again, you know, for appetite suppression, glucose control, glycemic control, dude, they do so many amazing things. They eliminate alcoholism, they eliminate addictions, obsessive compulsive disorders. In fact, the great majority of people who use them and use them correctly can come off of using them after about four months and completely absolve themselves of their bad previous behavior. So people that were drinking two or three glasses of wine a night now are not drinking any alcohol, people that have like addictions to gambling or to porn, to alcohol, whatever, are gone. And then on top of it, you know, the primary reasons are obviously people lose insane amounts of weight and they change their body composition. I have a whole chapter in the book that has 16 transformations of men and women from all over the world, all ages, literally not no lie, documenting 300, 250-pound weight loss, 160-pound weight loss. Like when you see these people's before and afters, you're gonna be like, oh my God.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

So do you think it's gonna get to a point where this thing is like a vitamin that we all take?

SPEAKER_02 20:04

So that's a great question. I don't think it'll ever get to where we have to take it, but I think the great majority of the world will be using these. I mean, look, you know, in the book, I talk about obesity. It's one of the chapters. Obesity is the greatest killer of mankind now. It just surpassed heart disease. And truthfully, heart disease is linked to obesity.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

So in truth, you don't really get heart disease unless you have a lot of visceral fat, which is a very inflammatory substance right over the heart wall, which was what leads to heart attacks, myocardial infarctions, strokes, you know, cerebral events. And so basically, if we can look at that's the greatest, you know, negative to health in the world right now, there will be drugs and already are drugs that are going to tackle that in a much better way, you know, than currently what we have available. And again, it's very open and very clear in the book, but you can't just use them as magic bullets, as like holy grail or exercise in a bottle. You still have to change your lifestyle. Right. And I think a lot of people in the world today, especially because we live in an instant gratification society, right? Yep. There's a there's a button for that, there's an app for that, there's Instacart, there's, you know, DoorDash. I mean, all the people, young people today have instant gratification expectations. Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

I like DoorDash, so don't let's not bust on DoorDash.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying that, you know, that's kidding. Yeah, for sure. That instant gratification mindset is amazing. We we in order to use a GLP and get the results that you ultimately want, you definitely have to, you know, do some work, right? And again, the work, the work is obviously you know simple stuff. It's it's exercise, it's lifting weights, it's doing cardiovascular training, it's limiting your carbohydrate intake at certain points of the day. You know, it's obviously cleansing your lifestyle from a you know EMF mitigation standpoint, you know, not going to bed with your phone next to your ear. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of little things that you have to do. You know, you have to look into being becoming hormonally optimized, whether that's using therapeutic hormones or just doing it from lifestyle change. But all of those things have to be looked at first as kind of the foundation, and then you can start using the GLP peptides to radically transform your body.

Testosterone As A Top Nootropic

SPEAKER_00 22:08

It's it's just incredible. It's it's amazing because, like you said, you you've been you've known about this stuff for a long time. And I heard the peptide thing coming in and out, in and out. Just because uh just real quick, you hear a lot about nootropics or nootropics or whatever. Yeah, what how do you what do you feel about those?

SPEAKER_02 22:23

Uh they're amazing. You know, what so I always tell people this they ask me the question what's the greatest nootropic in the world? And I always tell them therapeutic testosterone. And the reason that is is because it improves dopamine signal in the brain for both men and women.

SPEAKER_00 22:36

Well, how do you get that though? You can't just get that though, like on a shelf.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

You just go to a doctor and you get your blood work done, and if you have a deficiency, which 80% of people in society today over the age of 40 in America do. Yeah. And again, it's very misunderstood. It's very misdiagnosed. It's undertreated. The average doctor has no clue about hormone optimization. So what they're going to do is they're going to write you a script for an SSRI, which, by the way, actually, you know, it's obviously a mood altering medication. That makes you worse. And then also for men, they'll give you like a PD5 inhibitor, like a Viagra vitracialis, you know, the little blue pill. And that's not going to address the root cause, which again is hormone deficiency. Right. So like all the things that they give people to address these symptoms are band-aids. And so they never actually address the root cause, whereas hormone optimization will address the root cause. And so that's going to always be a greater, you know, nootropic cognition restorer than peptides. But there's tons of amazing peptides that you can use. You can intranasally snort them, you can inject them that can help with cognition, can help with mood, you know, alleviate depression, alleviate like narcolepsy or anxiety or things like that. But again, it's all, you know, kind of the way I always tell people is you can't just willy-nilly start using peptides without first understanding like what's going on as a foundation. Gotcha. And if you're if you're hormonally dysregulated, which most people are, and you jump into using peptides, you won't get the same results as somebody who is optimizing or working to optimize the hormones who's also using peptides at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 24:06

Gotcha. So it's not, it's not a you can't just go, I'm gonna start using them, it's gonna fix everything. You gotta figure you got to figure out where your deficiencies are, then use the correct peptides in order to help with those deficiencies.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

You nailed it, and I'll just say this way too many people, and again, this isn't really the people's fault, it's the doctor's fault and the pharmaceutical world's fault. But they start on GLP peptides when they have a hormone deficiency and they lose all this muscle.

SPEAKER_01 24:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

And so once they lose muscle, as you know, you become even more metabolically dysregulated. Your hair falls out, you have Wagovi face, Magovi neck, Wagovi body, all these things you hear about.

SPEAKER_00 24:42

The Magovi face is such a real thing, man. It is such our friends, I can tell right away. All of a sudden you see this like this like death face, you know, and you're like, what in the world? And now we know what we're always now. We call it GLP face. Yeah, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 24:57

Every bit of that is avoidable. All of that is avoidable. These are not none of these side effects. And that's because of muscle mass.

SPEAKER_00 25:04

Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_02 25:05

Muscle mass? All the side effects come from one, too high a dose. Wow, two a non-change of lifestyle. And what I mean by that is you don't start living insulin controlled, you're not exercising. If you take a GLP peptide and you don't lift weights and you don't make sure that you're working to become hormonally optimized, you're gonna lose muscle. Wow. Your face is gonna cave in, your ass is gonna cave in, your lower back is gonna cave in, you're going to lose some form of energetic, you know, call it strengthening or musoskeletal power because that's how powerful they are. But so if you understand how to use them, and I write about that in the book, the book is a step-by-step guide. You will never have any of those side effects. And by the way, all the other ones too: cancer, thyroid cancer, you know, gallbladder disease. I mean, all this BS that you hear in the news, all of them are completely mitigated by doing everything right. But most people don't do anything right. Yeah, I guess they stop eating, they stop eating. People will go weeks without eating food, and they they wonder why everything breaks.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Yeah, I yeah. I like food actually.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

I like food.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

Food's good, man. And you're in Mexico, you're eating some good Mexican food, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

There's way better food in Mexico than the United States. The food supply in the U.S. is contaminated.

Oxygen And Ozone Hydrotherapy Biohack

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Do you like do you like spicy though? You're into the spicy stuff? Not really, but I mean, I can eat it, but it's not like a favorite of mine. Sometimes, well, my wife does. She's out of control with that. She loves the spice, she'll just sit there and eat all kinds of hot peppers. But let's go into some of this other stuff here. What about the the the hypo, the hydrotherapy, like the oxygen stuff that you're hearing about today?

SPEAKER_02 26:42

Yeah, so Bemini Hydrotherapy, which is by the way, a company, it's Bemini Hydrotherapy.com. That's actually a company that a longevity fund that I'm a partner in. We're contemplating acquiring them. So my wife and I put their high-end tub in our master bathroom. We did a remodel last year, our house in Tampa. And when I was walking around Longevity Fest in December of 2024, uh, I saw this company in this booth. And so I walked up to the owner, I started talking to him, and he told me about it. I was like, Jesus, how, you know, how fast can I get one of these put in my house in Florida? And it's like, well, you know, we got to custom build them and blah, blah, blah. But anyway, long story short, I got it put in two months after my remodel. So I lost two months on it. But my wife and I spend 45 minutes to 60 minutes a day in that tub. And that tub is full of oxygenated and ozonated water. So if you understand anything about oxygen or ozone perfusion to the tissues, it's the most powerful anti-aging and longevity thing you can use because the more you oxygenate your blood and your tissue, the higher your mitochondrial power on, the just more energy you have. It's just it's incredible biohack. It's better for cognition, uh, it's better for deep sleep. So we've had that now in our house for this will be going on February will be 11 months or 10 months, excuse me. And it's now my favorite biohack. And so that company is called Bomini Hydrotherapy.com. That tub is expensive. Uh, it can go down to be a cold plunge, or it can also go up to 104 degrees. It's about 40 grand, I think, installed in your house. But they have they do have a portable one. A port, the portable one is like 7,500, and that's just as effective. It's just you have to move it in and out of your normal tub in your house because you have to put like the tubes into it, and then it oxygenates and ozonates the water. It's an incredible technology. Like, I highly recommend that for people who are you know getting older and they want to like really mitigate their uh biological age as they get older.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

That's really cool. Is that kind of like the old hyperbaric chambers that you would see? It's the same thing as a hyperbaric.

SPEAKER_02 28:43

Here's the thing about hyperbarics, and can't they blow up? That's that's a fact. Yeah. I mean, there was literally a man who was one of the biggest functional medicine doctors in all of Arizona. He brought hyperbaric chamber therapy to Arizona. He was incinerated in his hyperbaric chamber in May last year. So, as that's why I put this in my house because my wife and I were contemplating putting a chamber in our house, and two of the biggest guys in the industry, one of them is a doctor, one of them is a researcher, was like, don't do it. Yeah, do not put these in your house. It's pure oxygen.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

Yeah, you'll be able to do that. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

I mean, exactly. And so it depressurizes, and there's there's a lot of risks that you don't have to take versus a tub and you just move the top off and get in 103-degree jacuzzi.

SPEAKER_00 29:28

That's awesome. That's really cool. I I didn't know what was in there. I didn't realize it was water that's highly oxygenated and then also ozone. It has the ozone. Amazing.

SPEAKER_02 29:36

I mean, and there's so many scientific research studies on ozone and oxygen to perfuse the skin and perfuse the cells and how great it is for longevity and you know, lowering your biological age. I mean, they're just amazing. And again, I've been using it now myself for 10 months. And like, you know, this will be on when I go back, we go back Saturday, we'll be here for 12 days. I'll have a noticeable improvement to everything within the first 24 hours of getting back in the tub.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

Wow, that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

Right. So it's that awesome of a tech.

Why Ice Baths Are Overrated

SPEAKER_00 30:04

Yeah, it's amazing. Really cool. What else is so the other thing I want to talk to before we before we wrap this up was the ice, everybody's talking about the ice bath thing. The ice, the ice baths, you know, it's everywhere. What is what what are the benefits? Is it what how do you feel about the ice bath?

SPEAKER_02 30:19

I think that it's the most overrated thing in all biohacking.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Thank God, because I'll tell you what, I don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_02 30:25

I mean, I'm not saying that it's not good for mental discipline to overcome the elements and stuff like that. I mean, I've done them for a lot of times, but the truth is that people who are not fit, which is the great majority of society, who jump into those pools are putting their life at risk. Couldn't you have a heart attack? Worse than that. I mean, you can have a thrombotic event, you can have a stroke, you can have an embolism. There's so many things. Your body is not conditioned for that kind of drastic temperature divergence.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:54

So if unless you're a very competitive athlete and you do these a lot a lot and you're, you know, submerging your body from those temperature variances, it's a very high-risk endeavor. Honestly, it's actually become a facade.

SPEAKER_00 31:07

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

Um, I actually laugh at the majority of people that do these because I see these giant fat people jumping in and out of them, and I'm like, what are you doing? But yes, you're there's no question that it's a very, very risky endeavor to a very unconditioned, unfit person to be taking their core body temperature from 98.6 to 38 degree temperature, because that's usually where it is. Hypothermia, vascular events. It's terrible. There's absolutely no reason to do it unless you are a conditioned person and you're doing this all the time. But the risks are far outweigh the rewards.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

That's clear, that's good to hear. Because you know what? I don't think I've ever heard anybody say that about people that are maybe, you know, like you said, if you're a high athletic type person, then it's different. But I, you know, I've never heard anybody say, and I always thought to myself, holy crap, is somebody could end up doing some some kind of damage if you're not ready for that. That could be pretty ugly.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

I'll tell you another thing that very few people will ever tell you. The majority of heart attacks in the United States that are suffered by men are from them taking a high dosage of Viagra and literally getting a myocardial infarction within 20 minutes of taking the dose just to get their penis hard.

SPEAKER_00 32:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Nobody talks about that. But if you understand the actual biological cascade that happens when you take a high dose and you're an inflamed fat person, you are literally it's it's basically occluding your vascular pathways, right? So that's how you push more nitrogen to your dick, which you got a giant belly and you have all this inflammation. You cannot get those arteries opened and closed without like doing rapid, you know, compression, open, compression, open, compression, open. And when you're really occluded, which a lot of fat people are and have all that inflammation, heart attack.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

Heart attack, unbelievable.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

Very, very few people talk about that. You know, you will not get if they do die of a heart attack, they're not, it's not gonna be caused by that little blue pill. But if you ask that wife or that woman or that what was going on what was about to happen, wow, you'll find out.

SPEAKER_00 33:06

Interesting. There you go, Hugo. Stop taking it.

unknown 33:09

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 33:11

You gotta stop taking that. I'll tell you what.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Sialis is way lower risk than the Viagra, but Viagra works, and that's why people take it.

Book Launch Details And Free Resources

SPEAKER_00 33:23

Yeah, exactly. Well, thank God I don't need that at this point in my life. Well, that's good. That's a good thing, you know. But no, I appreciate you coming on. What up? Let's go through that book again, man. Tell me a little bit about the book that's coming out or that's gonna be out, and and and anything quick that you want to talk about, and then we're gonna we're gonna get we're gonna get out of here.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

No, first off, I appreciate you having me on. You ask quick questions. So the book is called Metabolic Awakening with GLP1 peptides, and it will be out by the end of February. So hopefully, by the time this podcast runs, it will be in the marketplace. I've written a lot of books. I have five that are international bestsellers, and I know book quality, and this is the best book that I've done by far. It's truly a masterpiece, and it really will teach people how to do this right because so many people do it wrong. Now, obviously, you have to read the book, right? In order to get news. The good news is it's because I understand that most people today can't read. They have very, you know, short attention spans. Every chapter, there's only nine chapters, but every chapter has key findings. Oh, good. And if you just literally went to the end of every chapter and read the key findings, you could literally put everything together from a two and two standpoint or soup nuts on what to do, what not to do. And I'm really, really proud of that book. Like I said, we did not use any AI. There's no AI hallucination or slop in it. It's completely handwritten. And I know it's going to do the world a lot of good. And I'll just say, you know, for people who are listening to this, uh, I always have a domain that I build that my team builds. It's called jcampbell.com forward slash free dash info.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

And there's so much information on that website, too. I just want to say that. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

I mean, it's it's one of the world's top websites, so it's really good. Free dash info will give you a free downloadable PDF copy of all my books. Oh, cool. That one is not won't be available until after it gets out into the marketplace. But who knows? Maybe by the time this runs, we'll probably have it up there by the end of March or early April. But all my books are there for free. So you can go there. And then, of course, you can find me on social media at J Campbell333.

Where To Follow Jay And Wrap Up

SPEAKER_00 35:16

Awesome, man. I appreciate it so much. Thanks for being on the show. We'll we'll probably head back. We didn't get through everything I want to talk about, but I'll have to back and then we can go through some more stuff. All right. Thank you, Brad. I appreciate you having me on. It's awesome. Awesome. Thank you so much. All right. There you go. Jay Campbell. Yeah, just go to J Campbell.com. Uh, you can get fully optimized if you talk to this guy. He's got all kinds of information on there. Talk about the peptides, the bioregulators, the testosterone optimization, all that stuff is on his website. And I know he'd be more than happy to uh help you out. Okay, that's about it. Thanks for being here every Thursday at 7 p.m. All right.