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Episode 1.40 'Manimal' Part 1
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Manimal might be the most famous (or infamous) of the shows the Aquaboys have watched so far. Its celebrity status as terrible TV seems built on a couple giant ideas that were executed hilariously bad. Maybe the producers thought the killer effects would carry the show? Did bubble forehead, felt cat paw, and tamed cobras impress the Aquaboys enough to renew this legendary train wreck? Listen and find out for yourself.
Manimal is an American superhero television series created by Glen A. Larson and Donald R. Boyle, it ran on NBC from September 30 to December 17, 1983. The show centers on the character Jonathan Chase (Simon MacCorkindale), a shape-shifting man who can turn himself into any animal he chooses. He uses this ability to help the police solve crimes.
The series ended after a brief eight episode run, but has since become a minor cult classic.
The following program is rated TV MA LSV and contains strong language sexual situations, violence and nudity.
Speaker 2It is intended only for mature audiences. Viewer discretion advised.
Speaker 3Previously on the Aquaboy podcast.
Speaker 2Big paint is a big, big paint. How big of an industry is that.
Speaker 3And so we brought this up today because I'm taking a stand and I don't care who hears it, but big paint needs to go down.
Speaker 4I think we need to cut this. We really need to cut this, because I'm you guys don't know what big paint can do.
Speaker 2I'll bleep big paint. How about that Just so?
Speaker 1we're safe yeah just big.
Speaker 3Do you know how much global paint companies, how much money they made in two from two thousand twenty two? Wait are we are we back on the trivia show? Seven thousand billion.
Speaker 2How many billions? How many billions?
Speaker 3How much it was sold in paint globally All right, I'm going to guess first.
Speaker 2We do prices. Right, we do prices.
Speaker 3Brian, you said prices Right.
Speaker 2Oh God.
Speaker 3Jesus.
Speaker 2I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1No, go backwards, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3And we're back. What you for, he's Jason.
Speaker 2OK, so my bid, without going over my closest to the retail price, without going over, and you said it has to be billions, it's in billions Nine hundred and ninety nine billion dollars.
Speaker 3That's ridiculous, it's stupid. Ok, without going over, let's see it was a little high.
Speaker 4I wait maybe.
Speaker 3I'm just. Why are?
Speaker 1you Definitely why.
Speaker 3Jason, Jason, one billion dollars.
Speaker 2Really.
Speaker 1That's really low. I'm going to go so.
Speaker 3Brian's at almost a trillion.
Speaker 4I'm going to go one billion and one dollar.
Speaker 3Damn it, he got us again.
Speaker 4It did not work. I watched this show.
Speaker 3I know how it works, but it can't go over right.
Speaker 4Surprise Could we have created?
Speaker 3a wider birth.
Speaker 1Between one and infinity. For him to win.
Speaker 3Chad won. The answer is two hundred and thirty point twenty two billion. He was only two hundred and twenty nine billion, with the other overshot a little.
Speaker 2Ah, yes, you, my friend. I found the Aquaboy podcast. Thank you, intrepid Listener, for discovering our little show. I really appreciate the time you put in suffering through yet another episode of this, of this, the podcast of podcast, as it's known amongst her podcast professionals. Sure, my name is Brian Miller and the Aquaboy podcast is the podcast where we watch shows from the 80s and 90s that, for whatever reason, only lasted one season and we try to determine if those powerful television executives were absolutely right or totally wrong. So once again, thank you, intrepid Listener, for finding our show. We've got a super amazing show to talk about tonight. But I'd be remiss if I didn't introduce my co-host for the show. The co-host, the perpetual third wheel, mr Athletic Build Little. Are you done breathing or, okay, I was taking and cleansing breath, sorry, okay. The perpetual third wheel, mr Athletic Build little half pound. And the show apologist, my best friend, tony. Tony, let me be the first to welcome you to the show. Was that?
Speaker 1I thought that would be a lot enough to do Now we don't have any hearing.
Speaker 2Thank you for the show Also offering color commentary throughout part-time. Amateur costume mascot the Unrushed Yornator, foot Fetish Explorer, my Doe, my Ray and my smartest aqua boy. The smartest aqua boy at the table, jason. Jason, I want to be the second to welcome you to the show. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 3Welcome to the show. Is Taylor the smartest aqua boy not at the table? Yeah, who is the smartest one not at the table?
Speaker 2You know what? It's either got to be Taylor or Corbett a friend Corbett.
Speaker 3Or my wife, maybe because she's way smarter than me.
Speaker 4I'm not threatened at all by Corbett.
Speaker 3Taylor, the fact that you said that I'm gonna murder, the fact that you said that definitely sells it.
Speaker 4I'm not, no, you tried to murder him with your car.
Speaker 2Who is this? Oh my gosh, who is this? Who is this? I think I hear our junior production specialist, executive class, my fourth line of succession friend, child projie, speed skater, installment plan, virgin orgasm truther and the most subtly attractive participant prize friend on the show, chad, welcome, I'm gonna be the first to welcome you to the show.
Speaker 4Thank you and Jason. I will be the first to welcome you to the show.
Speaker 3And I want to welcome me as well for you, welcoming you, but I that is not true, because I was the first and the second to welcome him to the show.
Speaker 4I think that you were the second but we're overlooking important parts.
Speaker 2Let history prove that.
Speaker 3Nobody acknowledged Tony. No, that's fine. Well, I already did, but you guys haven't.
Speaker 2So that pretty much sets a precedent for the remainder of the shows.
Speaker 3What I have, no idea what you're talking about and speaking of shows, guys, when you were, breathing.
Speaker 4Were you referencing the show that we're going to talk about today? Was that like a show, a nod to the show, or was that just you?
Speaker 3being you. Well, it was a little bit of both, because I wrote down in my notes like that breathing sounds like Tony masturbating. Oh, wow, you mean.
Speaker 2Well, what's the show you're talking about?
Speaker 3It's also weird that every time Tony masturbates, somebody plays the drums behind.
Speaker 2Yeah, I've seen music. Well, he hires me to do that.
Speaker 3Yeah, I was going to say.
Speaker 2yeah, I was a guy, I'm not bad on the bongo and the Jamaican barrel drum.
Speaker 3It just gets really cozy in my little toilet room. But traditional drums you're really bad at. It's weird if you just can't Now trap set. Trap set I'm not good at. Why is that? It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2Well, it's part of my heritage.
Speaker 4I don't okay, it's how you know he's rich just because he hires all of us to be there whenever he jerks off.
Speaker 2That's how you know he's rich, I've never seen you there.
Speaker 4Where are you hiding? Oh well, I'm behind the toilet. How do you?
Speaker 3squeeze. Well it's because he doesn't know if Tony's going to shame masturbate or not. So if he does, then Chad there.
Speaker 4Tony, isn't all masturbation? The shame masturbate.
Speaker 2What masturbation is not shame? Tell me of this thing. So in the shower with the water running, not shame. But on the toilet right after you took a dump, Is that shame?
Speaker 3Like front porch, not shame?
Speaker 2You know, because, like you're, you're right. He has no shame. That is no, no, no. If you did that you're doing that.
Speaker 3If you're doing that, then it's a, it's no shame.
Speaker 2So front porch masturbating? No shame. Correct On the toilet after a dump.
Speaker 4lots of shame, Lots of shame. You should feel during a dump. More shame.
Speaker 2I've never tried that. How's that?
Speaker 3It's hard to time Because you dumped in like 30 seconds.
Speaker 2What's that Two gone?
Speaker 4I'm a super fast, pooper, your, your asshole is so huge that he just all like honks right out.
Speaker 2It's not a famous person. Special correspondent Lane coined the phrase it's not shitting if you don't have to work at it.
Speaker 1So when you just sit down and it falls out you guys don't have that problem.
Speaker 2It just fall. You have to push, Don't bear down.
Speaker 4I don't bear down.
Speaker 2My friend Chad taught me that Don't ever bear down.
Speaker 4Yeah, you should not do that. That's how you get you know the thingies Hemorrhoids, hemorrhoids, yeah, and I think like uh fissures.
Speaker 3Have you ever had a hemorrhoid and I?
Speaker 4think. I think also like uh, what happens when it comes out like a prolapsed anus? Okay, you have to really bear down for that to happen.
Speaker 2Well, yeah, it happens, though. Have you guys ever had a hemorrhoid, do you know? Uh, yeah, I think I've had a little one before.
Speaker 3I mean, is this a safe space?
Speaker 2Yeah, nobody's safe, yeah, nobody listens.
Speaker 3Definitely no.
Speaker 4I heard today that shame is a useless emotion and I thought to myself I feel like for the podcast it's a very useful emotion.
Speaker 2We just defined it right now it's clearly driving in the listeners.
Speaker 4Well, you know, all it has creatives. We just have to keep making stuff and then eventually it'll work out.
Speaker 3Yeah, with no marketing at all.
Speaker 2The moment that the moment that the last Aquaboy dies, then somehow we'll get discovered, that's right, we'll be like Van Gogh We'll be retarded Van. Gogh.
Speaker 3Oh, I do not think you can say Van Gogh oh my gosh.
Speaker 4What did you say I?
Speaker 3said your hair looks nice.
Speaker 4Oh, you did say that, speaking of Aquaboys dying, I had this weird, this weird thing happen to me today, where what I'm going to do the I'm going to do the fun part second, I'm going to do the sad part first, you motherfucker, and I'm going to do the fun part second.
Speaker 2So just before the just before the show started, we had a discussion about if somebody likes to be a bad news first or a good news first guy. And I think, chad, you voted bad news first.
Speaker 4No, no, no, jason, jason is Jason is bad news first. Okay, I'm bad news. Second, because it's unlikely that I will be able to hear the good news as easily after I've heard the bad news.
Speaker 2Well then go ahead and give us a bad news.
Speaker 4So well, we were talking about the, you know, the last Aquaboy dying. So a friend of mine. I found out a friend of mine died this week and we love you, chad. So I found out, a friend of mine died this week, but I found out that he died in February.
Speaker 2Oh, so he's obviously very close.
Speaker 4In no like like close. Like like he lived on my street growing up, like I used to spend that in his house. I would see him non-stop. No, really close, like I've known him my whole life.
Speaker 2But you've been out of touch recently.
Speaker 4Especially since he died. Yeah, I think the last time I think.
Speaker 1I think the last time I saw him was about a year ago.
Speaker 4About a year ago was the last time I saw him, but he's somebody that everybody knows and I don't know why I'm not hearing from him. Oh God, so, so, this motherfucker, this motherfucker I find out, a buddy of mine is just like hey. Did you hear that he died?
Speaker 1And I was like what? And he's like yeah, he died.
Speaker 2So we insinuating that we will die and the other people won't know? No, I'm insinuating If you don't show up for the show.
Speaker 4No, I am insinuating that, that you guys Jason's not hearing it. Guys, you guys are into the joke. So he died. And then he made his brother promise to not tell anybody.
Speaker 2What.
Speaker 4He made his brother promise to not tell anybody that he died. So all of us I'm talking about like the entire theater community has known this guy forever and he's very well respected and we all literally found out the same day that he died, but all found out that he died in February. So like, literally all of us are having this grieving process, even though he died in February. And I just thought, yeah, he's playing the long game.
Speaker 2That seems like something the Aquaboys would do, but yeah, that seems process that. So how? How did you?
Speaker 3I'm sorry, we laughed all the way through your grief just now, no, no, no.
Speaker 4I knew it was a safe space.
Speaker 1I knew it was a safe space, so we could have made fun of that.
Speaker 2So how did he? Know, he was going to die.
Speaker 4Oh, yeah, yeah he knew he was going to die.
Speaker 2So he was terminal, he had a real mess.
Speaker 4So evidently he well, he smoked like a chimney forever, like he had lung cancer that came on really fast and was just like like it was basically the end and there you go, oh man and that's all fine, and that felt like I don't know. But like he was. He was one of these guys who like his nickname when I was when I was a kid growing up, because he's older than me His nickname was Ogre.
Speaker 4Like because he was a really like scary dude, but for me I always just knew he was so scary because he was always mad that he was the smartest person in the room. So he was always mad at everybody.
Speaker 2But was he the guy that isn't but thinks he is?
Speaker 4Oh no, he was he was the smartest person in the room and this is getting a little dark. I was trying to tell a really funny story.
Speaker 3I think Chad liked it better when there was left Jesus.
Speaker 4Christ, I'm really uncomfortable right now. And you love that, yeah, so so he was really. He was really kind of a crazy person, but eventually he had a stroke one time and then after that he was really nice. He was always really smart. He got nicer after a stroke he got nicer after a stroke, and then that can fellow out of fellow. I think after his third divorce. Then he got mad again and then and COVID didn't do anybody in the favor.
Speaker 2This is the best eulogy I've ever had, and he put a load of us here and he his mom on the front rows looking at, looking at Chad that during the eulogy like hey, quit it hey seriously you probably don't have a personal shit.
Speaker 4No, I literally had. This time is up.
Speaker 3She's got a times up sign. There's neon and 30 seconds.
Speaker 1I feel like times up is wrong.
Speaker 3She goes like this Times up is the wrong sign. You're right.
Speaker 4Yeah, so I just, I just thought my funeral. Can we please have a times up sign?
Speaker 2No, our funerals are going to go on and on, because what are we doing at our funeral?
Speaker 4We're reading our text chain, but guess how many listeners will have at our funeral.
Speaker 3That's fair.
Speaker 2I'm going to demand in my funeral that it takes place at like the convention center, because I had a time when there is a convention happening like no matter what show they have to wait five months to have a funeral for you, but they will do it.
Speaker 3Well, because he doesn't tell us, because he doesn't want us to read the text chain.
Speaker 4So he's like promise, you won't tell the aqua boys I died. But then eventually, when we find out he died, then we're like oh, now we're going to have the funeral and we're going to read the text chain, except it's just the three of us who show up.
Speaker 2You know how you'll find out that I died is because I'll finally not be instantly ready to host a show.
Speaker 3Also, I love to imagine the idea that there's one of us that has died and the three other ones of us are like in a room somewhere talking and going God, sad, sad, sad, yeah, super sad, super sad. Okay, but for real, though, are we really going? To do this, like I know, brian said it, but like for real who's gonna read?
Speaker 4you know, a Chad had mental problems, right? You know, you know, you know he said that over and over again. He didn't really want us to do it right.
Speaker 2I'm not sure I can do that whole thing. Chad does not like to read.
Speaker 3I'm not sure I can say I'm not sure I can say something as good as I said before Will you cold read Brian's eulogy oh my God, I started to feel way better about my chat.
Speaker 4I'll write it.
Speaker 2I'll write my eulogy, if you cold.
Speaker 4read it? Of course you will. You'll fake your own death and write your eulogy to get me to read it.
Speaker 3I mean, our text messages are far worse than this podcast.
Speaker 2Yeah, how is that possible? But you're very correct. Crazy shit there.
Speaker 3And all of the really racist stuff that you always share with us, brian you know, you're just so much more open there, I guess.
Speaker 1Yeah, I just have.
Speaker 3It's a forum where he can be open.
Speaker 4I have more of a problem we're really proud of you, Brian.
Speaker 3You're a proud boy.
Speaker 4You're a proud boy. I feel like Tony's child porn is the thing that really bothers me that I feel like having to describe that.
Speaker 3You should not be sharing that in attention. He's not less than 1% there. Tony is a pedophile, that's right.
Speaker 4Thank you. Tony is a pedophile. There we go. Thank you.
Speaker 1Well, believe it or not guys.
Speaker 2Believe it or not guys, we haven't even talked about the show that we're talking about.
Speaker 4Is that right what?
Speaker 2show, but there is some controversy about the show.
Speaker 4Controversy or controversy Whatever you want to say, I mean, I have a lot of controversy about the show and I feel like we should have really done that live on air, because the listener needs to judge.
Speaker 2Yeah, which part Live on air?
Speaker 4The part where you guys cheated and we were supposed to go back and watch our last show, and then you're like, no, we have to do it again. And then it said again go back and watch your last show.
Speaker 3No, that's not what happened. No, we have to do it again. Brian did Brian's choice first and I didn't think that that was right, so we have to listen.
Speaker 2Let me get the listener up to date and then you can tell your story.
Speaker 3Don't cut me off.
Speaker 2Collusion there's collusion Is that we, the end of last show we picked Gung Ho or the wheel picked Gung Ho for us correct. Yes, gung Ho is not on the internet. Damn I have looked, except for the movie. I went everywhere. I have looked.
Speaker 4It is really starting to bother me.
Speaker 2I have been downloaded a file sharing system yeah like a whole. And it wasn't out there at all. The movie is everywhere you can buy the movie but the show, except for that trailer that I sent the group text Right. So Gung Ho off the table.
Speaker 4So if any of our millions of listeners have access to Gung Ho, yeah, the internet needs it. Please text us at aquaboyshow or aquaboytwittershow, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2You can call the show, but nobody ever does.
Speaker 4Nobody ever does you know what, you know what. Jason's wife continues to tell me. She has a lot of thoughts and she wants this call this morning.
Speaker 3She wants a call In our bedtime time she rolled over.
Speaker 4Excuse me, wait back up, back up it was mid.
Speaker 2It was time. It was time, mid. Let's just say mid. What were you wearing?
Speaker 4Mid, just you would be walking your way, tell us more about what time was it. Was it bedtime, time I was wearing? Full on pajamas like straight up like long underwear button to the top and with a little hole, but the little caboose in the back that you could unbutton.
Speaker 2And that's part of the zone. Please tell me there were booties.
Speaker 3Oh, there are booties, so many booties.
Speaker 4They're called footies, booties.
Speaker 3Don't fuck my footies, but anyway, she talked this morning about making that phone call and guess what she didn't do? She made the bubble, so she was going to call the show she talked about it all the time she's always saying I'm going to call the show even though she doesn't.
Speaker 3Well, you guys probably got, like in the middle of last week, the text message from our Google and we were responding yes, Do you realize that we all said, we all responded, we were like, yeah, we get it, but I have to do that every month because they're threatening to shut us down, anyway.
Speaker 2so so there was controversy, because, jason, back to your story.
Speaker 3What was my story?
Speaker 4Well, you were telling us about bedtime time.
Speaker 2No. Gung Ho was nowhere to be found, so Gung Ho was nowhere to be found.
Speaker 3So, Brian rolled again and he did this very official rolling of the of the die.
Speaker 2Much to my wife's chagrin.
Speaker 3spinning of the wheel, much to your wife's chagrin.
Speaker 4Was that on FaceTime? What was that? He just took a video. Oh yeah, he took a video of himself. Your wife was your witness, and she did not want to be here.
Speaker 1Well, here's what I'll say.
Speaker 3There has never been a more impartial witness because she hated Brian in that moment. She's a very loving person and loves Brian, but in that moment didn't love.
Speaker 2She could have given two shits. So he was, he was me, not this show.
Speaker 3Let me be very clear on that wheel and it was Brian's choice that came up, which Brian understandably, having totally rigged the system because I'm fair. Understood partial that we would think he for sure rigged the system as he did. Yes.
Speaker 4I don't even remember that part. Ask him to ring it to do it again.
Speaker 3He spun it again and this time it was stick, with the same show, which of course we were not going to know, that's what the thing told us to do. No, the thing told us to do Brian's choice.
Speaker 2If I knew that that came up to stick with the show, Jason would have come over and set fire to my house. And then, and then I would have quit the show, and not even for insurance reasons like he did Tony. So it would have been just hate. I hate burn.
Speaker 3I would have come over to the house while y'all recorded and heckled you guys, while y'all were recording.
Speaker 4But did you not think about how many more times we would be able to record what? No, I fucking hate you guys. Why would that increase the potential for?
Speaker 2us for just his schedule no.
Speaker 4I'm always saying that if there were only three of us, it doesn't matter which one we get rid of. If we get rid of Tony, we could do it a lot too. Tony's out of the country like half the year.
Speaker 2It's my fault, so we're not there's been a slight payroll malfunction and Tony is getting all the money. So we're I'm going to go and look at that A Sheffield and I are having a meeting.
Speaker 3Tony has a kid in college and somehow has more money. I don't understand how that factors in. Like usually you hear from people and they're like, yeah, I got a kid in college, I'm just keeping it tight right now Staycation this year, tony's like actually we're doing three trips to.
Speaker 2Europe. In fact, we're going to go to Europe, turn around and come home and cancel that trip and then go back.
Speaker 3My wife has to work from Europe because we don't have enough time on vacation, but we're still going to take the time.
Speaker 4I'm watching a video right now.
Speaker 2What are you?
Speaker 4watching. No, no, no, it did not say Brian's choice. First, the very first one said give the current show another shot.
Speaker 1No, it did. Yes, you are, I am watching the video.
Speaker 4No, no, no, this is collusion no, that's a website.
Speaker 3That's a website. No, no, no, no. You know what we'll do. We'll do?
Speaker 2We'll take this video and post it to our Twitter account. Here we go, here we go. Are we listening? We're listening to a quick Twitter account.
Speaker 4That's right. Come on, Give current show another try.
Speaker 2That's the first roll right there and he's like Nope, I just didn't, I just didn't want to believe it, oh my.
Speaker 4God. So he's like oh, I'll do it again, I'll do it again, this will be fine. And at that point I'm yelling at my screen like how dare you? Here we go, here we go. What does it say?
Speaker 3All right, so so, Chad, I'm going to throw something away. All right, we voted in the last show right and we canceled the last show, correct.
Speaker 2We canceled, okay, correct.
Speaker 1We did.
Speaker 3We canceled it, and so the next show that was spun on the wheel that we you and I actually hold it in here.
Speaker 2Yeah, brought it in together, you and Tony, you and Tony. I was rubbing his feet.
Speaker 3Oh, that's well and I needed so we brought that in here, we spun it, and what show came up gung, ho, gung ho, gung ho came up. That is now the show. So when when Brian ran the the wheel again, it was for gung ho access gung ho. This is why you're the smartest twice that you have completely completely we couldn't do it, we couldn't satisfy the wheel blessed or the?
Speaker 4where were you during the presidential election?
Speaker 3you could have explained I could have made sure trouble understood. Yes, I don't think you could have made sure Trump his followers would have absolutely not listened to me, but I would have tried well, they all listen to us, so let's let's just keep it we bring in the white supremacist I don't think we is the right word.
Speaker 2You know that's not fair well, you're proud of your boys they're family, they're family, we get it very proud, very proud. So the show that we ended up landing on was now was it Tony's choice, or was it Manimal?
Speaker 3straight-up, animal straight-up, manimal straight-up.
Speaker 2We just like 12 minutes on on how we got so if you go to our Twitter account, eventually you'll see that I'm going to post the trailer to gung ho, but that is absolutely the only thing I could find like people. Yes sometimes, sometimes our shows are so obscure people will post their VHS tapes of when they recorded the show back in the 80s and 90s with the commercials, everything I could even find.
Speaker 4I can find I did. You know how my brain is. Sometimes I get annoyed with things. When I can't, I'm like, no, this is should be, real, this should be real. And I get stuck, and I got stuck several times on this concept, mainly because of the collusion that I didn't understand. But now that I understand I never show spent that time and I thought I'm gonna find gung ho not out there mother fucker.
Speaker 4So now as the time listeners. We know you're out there, we know that, that the metrics that come back to us just say there's only two of you.
Speaker 1But I am willing to bet there are more than we think.
Speaker 2So if you guys could go find it for us, there could be a little taste in it for you, especially you overseas listeners, all one of you like I bet you, I bet you that was on some sort of weird like cable channel in the Middle East that's a great ad nauseam for a long time.
Speaker 3I don't even care if it's dubbed, I just like Tony with a satellite dish.
Speaker 2Yes, true, true so what we settled upon was Tony's show from basically day one that he wanted to watch what was called Manimal so we watched Manimal, episode one which aired originally September 30th 1983. Manimal is the American superhero television series created by Glenn Larson, who is the brains behind Battlestar Galactica. I mean, you name it, auto man yes and it ran on NBC for a very short run, september 30th through December 17 1983, before it was canceled. Before his first season even finished, finished on the the show centers on the character.
Speaker 4I was gonna say Demetri Lischitz.
Speaker 2I was like I don't feel like now's the time I'm supposed to say that who, now that I read this I'm kind of clued in a little bit more to the plot of the show a shape-shifting man who can turn himself into any animal he chooses and he uses this ability to help fight crime. So I didn't realize it was any animal, because I'm the guy who got the last 10 minutes.
Speaker 2So the this was the season premiere, which back in the day usually meant that it went longer than normal. So this episode was one hour and 10 minutes of pain. So what I did is just went back to the one-minute marker so I watched the last 10 minutes. So I'll be excusing myself momentarily so that you guys can to discuss the show. So I'm gonna make, I'm gonna make Jason the captain. Now you can lead that discussion when when we're ready to to move. Are you jealous?
Speaker 4no, no, okay, speaking of those longer episodes, I did write down. After the basement scene, which you didn't see, I said holy shit, it's the end of the basement scene and there's still 20 fucking minutes left the basement scene.
Speaker 2That's intriguing. Yeah, the basement scene was wrapping up.
Speaker 4It felt like it was and now we've wrapped up the show and I look up and I know what the fuck one other thing I want to point out real quick.
Speaker 3Nothing to do with minimal, but this is a milestone show for us. Tell me more. This is our 40th episode boom.
Speaker 4We only celebrate 43. I think 43, you know, is more all in our 40s 40.
Speaker 3I don't know what Jason is. 40 doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 243 we'll just fuck that shit. Yeah, no, I mean, episode 40 is a super important milestone for everybody very, very important for everybody except Jason. I mean, so let's celebrate.
Speaker 4I think we should. What in celebration I didn't get to tell you my happy thing. Do you want to do that? Well, what I thought we would do, before we start talking about the show.
Speaker 2Are there any random thoughts that around the number 40, that is the most important number we could possibly think of? What about 40?
Speaker 4just go on, it's fine, I mean, I did have a I brought. I brought a piece of paper with me. Oh my god, that is. Did you do pre-production for the show? I just started coughing, I just got nervous, oh my god he's so nervous so I had your hands shaking so
Speaker 4much so I had. So I had this. I had this moment where I feel like maybe you don't quite understand how interesting and intelligent some young people are. So I I mean, I know, tony knows, but but I had a friend who texted me something that I just thought you guys could really help explain.
Speaker 1They were walking totally lost. So I got this. I'm nervous.
Speaker 4I got this text message that was a picture, and it was just a picture, and it was a.
Speaker 4It was a picture of a notebook and and I made a copy of this picture that I just thought I could hand out to you to each of you and evidently I was not told who, I was not told whose notebook this was, but what I was told is that this was the notebook of one of the humans that I was teaching, and I will say that those humans are of the same age as our children so it says.
Speaker 2At the top of the top of the pages says Chad Russell Jung has thrown off my my has thrown off my gaydar. So so what are we're looking at?
Speaker 4here is three columns, and the headers of each column are straight, gay and unsure so one of my students evidently made this list just about me and then somehow, I don't know how this, this co-worker of mine, I guess maybe they were like taking a picture over their shoulder or something, but they they wouldn't tell me who it was, but they were like I just have to send you this because it's everything all right, so help me understand.
Speaker 4So we're looking at three separate columns, one labeled straight, gay and unsure and these are the category, these are the traits of each one of those that, whatever student this was, seems to have observed about me that make me I don't think it's that complicated using Lee gay, straight or unsure so this is somebody who meets you for the first time and is on no, they're one of no. They know they hung out with.
Speaker 3He's saying this is like two weeks straight, or this person, who's male or female, we don't know or they then, but like they are, they are just experiencing Chad and saying we're not positive because his gay are my gaydar is gone crazy right yes and giving reasons and like a pro con kind of yes, it was very much like this is, except that in the column is them working?
Speaker 2out. They're trying to figure out.
Speaker 3They have a name chart straight, gay or unsure this is their personal.
Speaker 2These are columns.
Speaker 3If Chad is is one of those things. Reasons, reasons why Chad is straight. So let me tell you about gay darr kids.
Speaker 4So gaydar I have no darr about anything, but gaydar would be. If you're typically, if you have good gaydar, then you would be able to tell if somebody was gay now was that like the little sparkle I feel inside when I see Tony no, no, I feel like that's racism. I feel like this race oh gosh, okay, that's strange okay, but but the gaydar would be your radar for for gayness and so good.
Speaker 3I have to say to you real quick I am in love with this list.
Speaker 2First of all, this is, and I also fan past.
Speaker 3I cannot champion you for then sharing it with yeah, this is about to be my, my, like, my my screen photo for my.
Speaker 4I wish I could frame it and like put it up behind me while I'm teaching, but I don't think that would be appropriate. The actual page out of the journal no, it's, this is literally a photo, because, because my friend didn't even tell the person like the human literally didn't even know that they is the person female or male, or they don't? Know, so I don't know okay, I will say that the the.
Speaker 4I was told that it was definitely one of my students and so this the main students I was working with I would say we're born with female genitalia, but don't necessarily nobody, nobody, nobody identifies that way right now.
Speaker 2Okay. So the headline, though, is that this person female, male, whatever that Chad Jung has thrown off- their gaydar, so they're they're writing this, saying they're unsure. I met Chad, yes, and I thought that I had finally tuned my gaydar, but I met you and I've thrown it off.
Speaker 4Yes, yes, I not fucked it off, but and these this would be, I would say they're between the audience lip between the ages of 11 and 15.
Speaker 3So that, hold on, let's just cover FCC version.
Speaker 2This is a 16 year old let's cover, let's cover straight the category okay, okay.
Speaker 3This person has written down items in the straight category yeah like an excel spreadsheet.
Speaker 2So these are the arguments that this person had in his head about why their head about being straight.
Speaker 3Yes, yeah, I might be straight could Chad possibly be straight?
Speaker 2yes, so.
Speaker 3Chad has wife and kids. That was the first one that's right, all right, but there are plenty of plenty of gay dudes. But then but then Chad also talks about his wife that's right.
Speaker 2That's right. I feel like plenty of you know she's best friend all the way, we all agree.
Speaker 3Chad's clothing style. I love that. Chad has been called out by someone in that comment presumably makes me feel like the person is gay. But I can't say that, but I'm just saying that that that makes me feel like a person that is saying to you like because they're definitely straight, because I'm gay, and that kind of clothing is straight, like they're basically saying a gay person would never be caught dead correct Chad, yes, yes, which 99% of the time and you guys got to get my back here is a t-shirt and a hoodie and jeans.
Speaker 4Yeah, that's pretty much my dad's sneakers if I'm, if I'm usually, if I'm teaching. It's a t-shirt, but I usually have a button up on top of it with sleeves rolled up oh, like you're like full button up, sure, yeah but untucked button up, sleeves rolled up, that's like dressing up.
Speaker 2It's usually what I'm if I'm teaching what you were to the office, okay, untucked with jeans and yeah, he always wears a fedora.
Speaker 3Tony, tony, do you want to read the gay? Section and high heels yes this is a person's assertion that Chad might be that, yes, things and I need to handle this carefully.
Speaker 2To Tony handle it carefully oh yeah, definitely I'm very delicate, okay, okay well, I have.
Speaker 3I don't really agree with all of these things, but the number one in the gay column is fluid movements uh-huh.
Speaker 2Now what does that mean?
Speaker 3like squishy the way he moves.
Speaker 2Yeah, I move I don't think you're squishy, or?
Speaker 3fluid. No, I don't think you're thinking wrong yeah. I feel like.
Speaker 4Jason knows you are not correct when I think you just got your movement correct.
Speaker 3Chad is like when he's presenting, or talking, or presenting in front of, yes, in front of his class, and people like he's got kind of a fluid, need to hit a little fluid. I could. I could see that but also chat.
Speaker 2I just want you to let you know that whatever normal is and we're not defining that here because that's not and we know it's not me, that's not, and there's columns to prove it on this list that when I look at your movements and I don't know what this is about me but when I see your movements, I think they're just movements.
Speaker 4I don't think they're fluid but you don't think that they're manly movements. You don't think that they're like what's a man?
Speaker 2I don't think you're like you're not curling like 40 pound dumbbells when I talk to you it's like you're just moving right.
Speaker 4I'm cleaning this carburetor. I think, thanks for just seeing my movements, for being mine thanks you.
Speaker 3My dough is moving to me next one we have is the way he stands. How does one stand straight or gay, but I think it's probably part of the way he also you always have one of your toes at point. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2That is true, that you have a shoe, you have a toe at point all the time.
Speaker 4I'll. I'm pointing a toe at this moment and you don't even realize it if you look at my foot off the ground right now pointed down. I am pointing crossing his legs with, like you know, and I know what I mean the third one is definitely true facial expressions or over expressive, which I didn't know, that was a gay thing and I literally just saw my wrist and my hand move and I went.
Speaker 2Well, maybe, maybe I don't see any gay motion or like this right well done. Every time, he, every time you move your foot into a toe point, you do this all right. Next they may get off. That may set off some signs the way he talks.
Speaker 3I don't think you talk like you're gay.
Speaker 4I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3I mean, you probably say things about a penis more than any person I know not with students.
Speaker 4Not with students, though that I hope not, no, I tell you that you know?
Speaker 2do you guys remember number one fan Barry? Like super fan, oh yeah so when Barry was writing the earlier he's a dear friend of mine and he was giving us pointers on our early shows based solely on your voice yes never seen a picture or anything. Yes, he did ask. Is Chad?
Speaker 1Chad, chad.
Speaker 2Chad is a circle is Chad.
Speaker 4Is Chad the gay one?
Speaker 2yes, he did, and I said he's got a wife and kids. He is himself. Chad is Chad. That's how his wife, kids.
Speaker 3He talks about his wife and his clothing style seemed like he's straight that's what he's.
Speaker 2That's exactly where he said no, that's what I said back to her.
Speaker 3Yeah but I will say next on the list is hand movements. You do, you do, talk with your hands quite a bit.
Speaker 2I yeah- Is that gay?
Speaker 3His hand moves are a little swishy.
Speaker 1I know, I don't know, I think so, which is?
Speaker 3all but see all everything in the gay column for me feels like this is evidence this person is like, either has like very close Opinions about someone they know that is like, or people they know that are gay, that they Specifically act a certain way so they're they're balanced or they're biased by that or maybe or they themselves are gay, and then they also do that and there's a that's a similarity his hand has their own like when he's stroking my penis. It's very gay.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, his hand movements in with penis in hand are gay.
Speaker 4Well, you know, I'm a slow reader and so it took me a little while to read this. And I remember saying to my friend, right after they texted it to me because they were, they were in the same room with me is? I just leaned over and I said, oh my god, thank God. When I was reading the gay column, I was really worried. At the bottom they were gonna talk about making out with that dude on the roof in New York, but they didn't. They didn't say anything about that.
Speaker 3No, and I was, like you know. In fact, the last one was Tony.
Speaker 4Yes sense of humor, yeah which I also know you can have a gay sense of humor. Yeah, I don't. I mean I all you can think of is that I'm not. I don't feel like I'm shy around Men, I guess, like you certainly are shy like you know. I think, yeah, I'm not like, like you know, I'm you know, gay sense of humor is weird, I don't know.
Speaker 2I don't know you drop a lot of like just straight-up, shocking gay humor. Well, that feels like it's a very personal.
Speaker 3That again feels like a personal thing, where they're like I'm gay and I feel like I'm more crass or I'm more sarcastic or I'm yeah, maybe I don't know pointed and chat similar to me, so that's a gay sense of humor.
Speaker 2Well then there's the third column, yes, which goes which goes to a much sure much, much very. Should I? Should I professionally?
Speaker 4yes, yes, yes because this is the column that is, I guess, either side.
Speaker 1I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4Do me a favor. Just leave the the the last one. Just change. Just change the initials in some way for me okay, I just I just glance down and I went oh yeah, that's probably a little little much.
Speaker 2So so the first one is ADHD. Now, is this talking about what they think Chad is or about themselves? Okay so, adhd, autism, theater geek.
Speaker 3Yes, I see that at all. I think they're said do the two separate things.
Speaker 4But yeah, but you also don't see color. There's all kinds of things you don't see, brian, I know okay, so my ADHD is off the charts Now.
Speaker 2I have noticed that trait about you occasionally.
Speaker 4Yes, but have you noticed how I don't understand jokes? Have you noticed that that that's just some extent?
Speaker 2but I don't think that falls into the spectrum, I mean in terms of like things that you do for executive producer related to the show, that shit gets done Yesterday like it gets done right away.
Speaker 1So your attention is hyper focused on that.
Speaker 2So maybe that is sort of backing into that ADHD trait where we're gonna.
Speaker 4Well, we won't. We're gonna educate you, we're gonna. Confuses me.
Speaker 2So on this disobeyed a hyper fixation on the teeth in theater tech, tech, tech.
Speaker 4I also thought it said teeth at first.
Speaker 3Brian, Come on buddy but that says tech in theater.
Speaker 2Oh shit, it does say tech, so tech in theater. So why would that?
Speaker 4be, I don't know. I guess the. I guess they're trying to say that that. Is that a gay? I guess because it's in theaters that gay, but then it's tech, so it's not. I don't really know. Are you're just like super specific?
Speaker 3because you do like you go out yeah you get gone out on like the lights and what. I can do, and what a gobo can do, or whatever things and you like. Get really clear about that, which is super cool, which is why you do things that's what you do at your
Speaker 2passion.
Speaker 3Well, and he does things that are frankly fantastic.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's an artist in that respect.
Speaker 4Yes, so, but I feel like he's an artist in a lot of respects, but like that is that's much more an ADHD Spectrum thing then, to me than an unsure about my sexuality. But I don't, I don't know, I just think it's super interesting.
Speaker 2I just I don't know. And the last one is funny of no, it's funny AF. Oh, yes, we're funny, sorry, sorry.
Speaker 4That's. The kids say AF because that means.
Speaker 3I also agree with that. I second Chad being funny.
Speaker 2AF. I would say that he's the fourth funniest person I've ever met at this table.
Speaker 4That's that is, that is better than fit.
Speaker 2Honestly say that Chad is one of the funniest people I know and and from the moment that I met you like he got the joke, I'm like our very first meeting was at some sort of weird fundraiser.
Speaker 4Oh, yes, we, yes, we did have a. You know, we had a beer bet.
Speaker 2We had a Whiskey bet, I'm sorry, a whiskey bet on some sort of piece of I can't even remember it was like some auction item or whatever. I didn't think that would go for a certain amount. Yeah you got the joke, we instantly hit it off, and so you have one of the best sense of humor.
Speaker 4I know we had a good time and then the last. I don't think it's gay I work with children, which I also felt like that was a strange thing to put in the column for unsure because all dudes who work With children are gay right.
Speaker 2Well, no, really like no okay, you're kind of a coach.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4Tell me, tell me about your coaching of young people, tony. So what?
Speaker 3was the end not coax young people. Oh, really, tell me about that. Tell us about your grooming of young people. Yeah, let's switch out coaching for grooming, and then I think we got a real idea of what he's doing.
Speaker 2So. So what was the end result? And I'll post this picture.
Speaker 4Please do this is not. There's no result like. That's what I I just. Tell me.
Speaker 2You're trying to tell me that you have not obsessed about this picture.
Speaker 4I thought it was a very. I thought it was a very astute like, like, look at myself from somebody else's point of view. I thought I thought it was. I thought it was just fascinating, as Jason is literally taking a photo just in case I don't want to lose it just in case Chad does not send this to me, I'm taking a photo. I will send it to you.
Speaker 1I'll send it to you.
Speaker 4You know, I just thought it was very interesting to see how somebody was looking at it, especially in a time when I feel, like Of most the young people that I I feel like I work with, are very non interested in in labeling Anything with sexuality or gender or anything like that and I thought it was super interesting that they're wrestling with this Themselves.
Speaker 2They're trying to work out you know, because you very well might be gay, but you have a family and I mean you have clothing style that reflects that.
Speaker 4But I feel like my clothing style. I feel like Sarah. Sarah's always like trying to put me in in clothes, so I feel like that maybe she's trying to make me look Less gay.
Speaker 2She's trying to say that word, she's like put clothes on, I'm gonna dress you today, darrell, she's just like yeah, no, that's, that's not, that's not gonna look good. Well, chad, thank you for sharing that's a big, big, big swing and I appreciate your sharing Wow.
Speaker 4I just, I just couldn't think of anything other than so. I guess my real question is so can you guys tell me if I'm gay or straight?
Speaker 3Now that, I'm gonna be honest, I'm in the unsure candy. That's fair, totally fair.
Speaker 4It's a spectrum. It's a spectrum cuz I'll be honest. A couple more drinks I can probably Mean yeah, I mean, I mean really, all you really have to do is compliment me enough and then I'll just be like, well, I guess I'm gay now, I think.
Speaker 3I think it's really good at you and then so, and then make you self-deprecate.
Speaker 1I can say you gotta have the two factor.
Speaker 3You gotta feel a little bit bad, and then also good and I always feel a little bit bad.
Speaker 4But you should from this show mentally mentally, not physically, I'm cool.
Speaker 2No, we want to punish you mentally. It's not a good show unless Chad leaves horribly feeling horribly about himself, but really it's me who does it.
Speaker 4It's I do it to myself. The aqua boys don't do it right. You guys are always super nice we try, we try really hard.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, if you listen to this show, we're super supportive, right every decision You've ever won back to the point when you started talking about your dad and Brian played a laughing track.
Speaker 4It was super weird to find out a dude was dead and that nobody of all like. There were tons and tons of us who were all of a sudden texting each other and we all found out literally within the same span of like 20 or 30 minutes, and yet at the exact same time he had been dead since February.
Speaker 2So on. Just just to go back to that part, just so I understand the off ramp here. He was on his deathbed. He knew he was going to die. Yes and he pulled in his brother and said yes, wow yes, and he said.
Speaker 4And he said I don't want an obituary, I don't want a memorial service. No, and of course, now because he's done this, oh, we're gonna do a fucking memorial service for him, just to fuck with him, because he fucked with us.
Speaker 2You're gonna get haunted.
Speaker 4Oh I, I got no problem with that.
Speaker 2Oh, you can have me on any once now he's.
Speaker 4He's smart as fuck. I don't have, I would feel just fine with him.
Speaker 2Do it Well, alright, P bro.
Speaker 4Ogre, that was a good one man. Man, that was phenomenal.
Speaker 2Thank you for putting yourself out there.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, I'll text you guys this photo. I'll text you Um. Alright, so anybody else have?
Speaker 2anything they want to chat about anything not now, or?
Speaker 3yeah, I know the next episode. Yeah, I'll save something for next show.
Speaker 2But don't do another fucking nothing. No, next show is more important than our 40th show.
Speaker 3Right, that's true, 40 is very important 40 is the most important, 41 is pretty important.
Speaker 2No, fuck you, I Shut up you bitch Fucking a whole other level.
Speaker 3All right, so should be like 43 is the so should we don't worry, you'll get celebrated should we talk?
Speaker 2about minimal. Should we talk? Yes? Let's talk about it All right, so I was so minimal was a premiere, so it was like an hour and 12 minute show. So I decided I was the last five minutes, but I decided to round up to an hour so I started watching the last 10 minutes right, I got a lot.
Speaker 4I.
Speaker 2Will say that I did get a lot of footage in 10 minutes. But I have a ton of questions. But what we're gonna do is I'm gonna go move myself to the soundproof booth. You guys are gonna talk, kind of give a quick overview of what you saw and I'll come back and I'll give. I'll try my best to figure out what the hell Happened in minimal episode one called Manimal, which debuted September 30th of 1983. So you guys ready to take the show? Jason, you're in charge. Let's do this, all right.
Speaker 3Godbrock will continue in a moment and we're back, all right. So Brian is in the soundproof booth boof, as he says, that's right, and and so we get a chance to kind of just talk about the show before Brian was back and discussed just a little about what we Would just experience in our lives. First of all, I don't know about you guys, but this was about 45 minutes too long.
Speaker 4Holy fuck it was. It was good at moments, but there was this thing of like fuck, there was nothing else on TV, there was only like 10 channels for real and, of course, when there's only 10 channels, you're like, well, no, I guess we gotta like draw this shit out a little bit.
Speaker 3I think this is also an example where they had it. They had they got together with a few different people that had some special skills and they were like man, we've got some, a couple of good name actors, we've got some great special effects guys Of course, this is great in quotation marks because actually they are great at the time extremely well credited, but I do. I think it's a time there were some they. Well, I think that's the point right, so they thought like we have these people.
Speaker 4Yes, I do line up. We have a solid lineup.
Speaker 3This is easy and then it became a throw away like the Cowboys every season. Yeah, exactly, okay, so minimal. Manimal is a show about a from September of 83 where a a Guess the title of the show basically comes from a police officer that can turn into any animal. But he's not really a police officer, he's a consultant. He's a consultant. It's also professor.
Speaker 4He's a what the. I have so many questions about what the fuck is it?
Speaker 3Do they ever actually?
Speaker 4explain what he is, because at some point he shows some sort of badge. Yeah, and what the fuck did that badge?
Speaker 3say so? I think he. I think in general the episode kind of revolves around the idea that there are there isn't a kind of a criminal underground ring of Transport, like they're in.
Speaker 4New York. We're in New York. It's a port, yeah.
Speaker 1We're smuggling. We're smuggling exactly smuggling things.
Speaker 3Well, we don't exactly know, but the first few.
Speaker 4There's a little weapon. I took a picture. I took a picture of the list. I froze it and I took a picture of the list. So don't worry, when Brian's back I will be reading you what they are smuggling, that's very good. That's, that's really funny, I saw that there's an a very important list with checkmarks and everything.
Speaker 3Yes, yes, thank you for taking picture that thing got a smuggler ring happening and some loatw. It feels like local cops Discover this, except that then one of them turns out a female, turns out to feel like maybe she's a detective.
Speaker 4She is the smartest New York police officer, but she's not a detective.
Speaker 3She's just a Street cop. Yes, it was the 80s.
Speaker 4Do you think maybe they just wouldn't allow her to progress, that they were just like sorry girls have to be on the beat.
Speaker 3They're very nebulous about what she, what she is, I mean no, cop car just like pulling over people.
Speaker 3But then, as this episode goes on, is she a detective? They don't really say they do. They do try to pull your heartstrings. In the first scene there are some criminals that are transporting their smuggling weapons, and Is part of that. One of the criminals start to fire, that then blows up this truck that was full of ammunition and At the same time shoots the cop that was holding him hostage or not hostage, but holding him there at gunpoint and it was her partner and that was her partner.
Speaker 3Yeah, and that and so, then, that's the thing that's supposed to fuel us the rest of the episode. Yeah, it fueled her yes and then as we go forward in that interaction, she sees a. Is it a panther? Am I correct?
Speaker 4It's a panther, it's a black panther. We have to talk about the animals, but we have to talk about them with with Brian, because we need to make sure he says so there is a.
Speaker 3There is a again manamal, that shows up in the scene. He's trying to also help take care of.
Speaker 1Fighting the crime it is.
Speaker 3for some reason she's not confused by the panther, and now, now her nose has turned up to a couple things. She's looking for the smugglers, but she's also very curious about this panther. So, as time goes on and she's trying to solve these murders and dress all these, these crimes, I'm looking for loose panther. Yes, she's looking for a panther or a person that works with panthers, which she then finds out. There is a professor at the local University who's a consultant, who works with animals, who help police officers to fight crime.
Speaker 4That's as much as she gets. So many problems, so many questions so many problems you know. I do think we are gonna need to consult with our Expert on the topic and figure out, if we give him a list of traits and actions, if the Manimal is a rapist as well.
Speaker 3He now, that's not a bad point. He's very rapey, he is a police science department professor at NYU and he specializes in the use of animals and police work. Yes, thank you for clarifying for us.
Speaker 4So what the fuck was that badge that he showed people at the beginning?
Speaker 3It's what it literally, literally what it said. Yeah, it's like it goes around around this car.
Speaker 4He's like hey, here's my business card and do what I say I didn't need that, you can commandeer. You can commandeer Taxicabs with a business card you can commandeer people's cameras. That was the nicest that was the nice.
Speaker 3Fucking hell potentially become a snake or a shark.
Speaker 4Did he become a snake now? I have so many questions about the snake too.
Speaker 3Yeah, but then there are a lot of Innu windows to also or not, any windows is straight up fact where they get into military and police officers, military's now like corrupt, and there's. There's a whole lot of like storyline that's happening a lot of side story.
Speaker 4One episode we're talking about one episode like the pilot, they weren't even making her at that point. There's no backstory.
Speaker 1They replaced the main the main side story is replaced in episode two spoiler alert.
Speaker 2Yes, oh yeah, yes we'll talk about that.
Speaker 4It's uh, it's a lot.
Speaker 3They're trying to accomplish a lot in one episode. I and and they try are basically just trying to solve this smuggling mystery and this person who is a A, a man that can change the animals animal as you can see it goes from animal to animal to animal to animal to help solve yeah there's more details, but I think we should.
Speaker 3We should kind of cover I think if they would have shortened his transition times because there's probably good ten minutes of this episode of him Switching from animal to animal, where you see him morphing and he's breathing heavy and you see the bubbly skin. It was.
Speaker 4It was at least ten minutes of that, I didn't get to see one of the transitions. I think I haven't talked to Brian about it because the only transition they show Is him turning into the panther.
Speaker 3Yes, which he turns into like four or five different animals, but he only shows the one which tells me they had the ones Like special effect guy. That then was like I don't know. I got three other projects. This is on the back and I got a theory on that gave them like a panther special effect and was like fuck it, use that.
Speaker 1I don't know All right, let's get Brian in here.
Speaker 3Let's get him back in here and we'll talk about the show. Oh Brian.
Speaker 2Hello friends, back from the soundproof booth. Gosh, it's nice in there man it is, isn't it?
Speaker 3We have some ouches.
Speaker 2Thanks for putting out the chips. Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 3You're welcome, big bowl of chips, that's they have actually been in there since the last time we recorded. Did you notice they were stale?
Speaker 2No, I just I.
Speaker 1Shovels them in his mouth.
Speaker 2I don't even care.
Speaker 4I mean, which is why we love you, you love still chip it's. It's why we turn the lights out is so you can put as many chips in your mouth and nobody can see.
Speaker 2They're super salty.
Speaker 3Hmm. So, Brian, imagine that you only watched a portion of this, this incredible show of work that we watched we watched.
Speaker 2Is it spoilers to ask? What was the overall opinion Like on a scale of one to ten? What'd you guys? We haven't talked about that.
Speaker 4We haven't even gotten there, we figured we wanted to hear your take. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, I know we're supposed to do is like even though it's a complete waste of time to find out what his.
Speaker 3I just, I just said I don't love it or I like it, but I don't love it. We'll give it. He just asked you for a one to ten and to those who've already tuned out.
Speaker 2Thanks for joining us on the alcohol, golden palace, golden palace, and ten being freaks and geeks. Okay, where does this rank for all of you? I want to know, before I jump into my uh, what I saw in the last 11 minutes. It's six for me.
Speaker 3Okay, I was gonna say six, okay.
Speaker 4I'm five.
Speaker 2Wow, wait, uh what's between one and ten.
Speaker 4Is that five?
Speaker 1Yeah, that's five right.
Speaker 4It's right in the middle, great, but it's five on one side or the other of the equator. Let's see one, two, three, four, five. Yeah, it is, that's on the lower side six.
Speaker 1I'm five and a half.
Speaker 4I can.
Speaker 2Okay, okay, he's five and a half so so it was an hour and 11 minute episode, so I started. I decided I would go back to the top of the hour, so I have the last 11 minutes and so I start, yes, with a shot of the twin towers. So obviously they're attempting to Honor the victims of 9 11. This is 1983 and not letting the terrorist win.
Speaker 3So that was cool. I mean that, that, that over 20 years Before 9 11. Hey still, they did it.
Speaker 2They did it right. They knew they were honoring america, which I thought was very powerful. So, besides that, I show up at a some sort of dock slash warehouse and lots of men Working, moving around, what seems like, and I I feel like this is a key Well, it's 80 of the show.
Speaker 3Is there they're on a dock and there are guys moving boxes. Okay, and checking things off of lists.
Speaker 2But if you look at what's labeled on the boxes, this says porcelain spas. So, I feel like that the porcelain spas plays a huge factor in.
Speaker 4You're, you're, you're warm, very warm you know, I didn't even notice that that porcelain what? I well, there was so many other things earlier in the show that you was thinking about the porcelain spas. So I have a list of things I'll send you in just a moment. Okay, well, porcelain spas.
Speaker 2Is obviously super important. So then I. Then I meet an older, what I assume was like an older sex worker, who pulls into the warehouse in a fur coat and has a thick russian accent.
Speaker 4Is it russian?
Speaker 3She's her name is Karen jade.
Speaker 1I was just asking by Ursula Andrews, you think it's a russian accent?
Speaker 4Yeah for sure. She was one of the bond girls. She was bonkers, to give you a to give you some background.
Speaker 3Do we all think it's a russian accent and she's?
Speaker 4a clearly a sex worker right, where was she, she's actually from Ukraine, or something like that.
Speaker 2And she says something about the fact that there and the dialogue I did not turn on subtitles, but there's something about that. She's about to make a hundred million dollars in porcelain spas which, which is a lot of money back then.
Speaker 4Then I see this is where things start to get a little confusing.
Speaker 2So I see a black panther crawling around the boxes and just watching things and, just by the way, this was a real panther.
Speaker 4They had real animal wranglers. This was a real. This was not CGI panther. This was real.
Speaker 2No, they were definitely real.
Speaker 4Then I see a line Well, there was a real panther, the panther he saw at that moment was A real panther and it would have been better if it had just stayed a real panther and we put peanut butter in his mouth. It could have just talked. That would have been way better.
Speaker 2So I see, then I see a lion. And so so now I'm like okay, so there's more than one shape shifter in this show which would be awesome, which okay. So then the sex worker meets a woman that's bound in gag, she's tied up, she's not a sex worker.
Speaker 4There's actually a sex worker and she's in a different scene.
Speaker 2Yes, she is.
Speaker 4This one's not a sex worker, she's not yes.
Speaker 2Yes, this is the bond girl. She struck me as a sex worker. She's the bond girl. So then they all let him finish.
Speaker 3Let him finish. Okay, okay. So then he wants to be a sex worker.
Speaker 2It's a sex worker, so there's a gal that's there's a gal that's bond and gagged.
Speaker 4And she's not in gagged.
Speaker 2She's bound and gagged officer brook mckinsey.
Speaker 4Oh yeah, well, it sounds like yes, and in a white. In a white button up. That's just slightly unbuttoned. I didn't notice that I did notice that she had nice babies.
Speaker 2So they are all scared because they realized at that moment that they've kidnapped a cop. And then I see a leopard running into the warehouse and a gigantic tiger. So so what I based on the all cats, all cats, right yeah?
Speaker 2so so then, so I did. I did end up seeing like whatever they consider trailer, and I also watch the credits, so I do. So I assume that it was about one man and all, but now it is clearly a superhero team or some sort of group of shape shifters, because there's so many cats, a bunch of pussies together.
Speaker 4Yeah, tons of pussy, like like the show, the secret show that's on Marvel, show that show for pussies getting together. You know what that goes in the game we would get more listeners wait maybe
Speaker 2that goes in the street, just bad.
Speaker 3No name of our show we did the same show and called it for pussies together for pussies.
Speaker 4Talk about the Mavericks million listeners.
Speaker 2Now this is yes, talk about the so so there is. So this is when I noticed, about a couple minutes in, that there is not very much dialogue in the show. That does that run pervasive, lead to the whole thing? Don't tell me, but I'm just. I mean it basically is just so cat footage, like there's a lot of cat foot.
Speaker 4There was a lot of animal. The zoo was involved. Yes, they, and they wanted to show us all the animals they had yeah, they did they.
Speaker 2Well, there was a lot of cat footage. No, no dialogue. But then I see there's a bunch of yet bad guys walking around with who is he's, but they're not saying anything. They're just walking around the warehouse. I'm assuming they're just kind of standing guard right there, just guards, and then the lions and tigers. Okay, this is where I was confused. So they start to knock out the guards one at a time, but they're not doing it with, with like teeth and claws, they're basically just kind of jumping sort of in their general like staring them and then they sit on them.
Speaker 3Yes, true.
Speaker 2I said they never really get touched. They just kind of make noise and jump over there non lethal pussy.
Speaker 4When a man animal, when a man animal jumps out and scares you, you pass out for hours.
Speaker 3It's crazy multiple people pass out in this episode.
Speaker 2I, that's where I'm going. I said they don't even look like they even get touched, but they are past the fuck out. Yes, yes it's just the whiff.
Speaker 4So then guys guys, are you with me? Oh, we're with. So then nobody else is, but we're with the black panther attacks.
Speaker 2So the black panther attacks the sex worker by her car and some of the henchmen decide to throw I guess Canada, I was canisters of cat knockout gas or I guess that's like they just had him handy so I didn't know what it was. But what it whatever does, it makes Black Panther cat who I'm assuming is the main cat, because that's feature a lot with the paw hand and the claws coming out.
Speaker 3that looks so good, you saw that.
Speaker 2So it makes me think that they knew that the cats were attacking.
Speaker 4They seem to have, like I feel like they got a deal on fog hogs and so they needed to use like a smoker at some point, almost like what you would do like to a beehive, but instead they were doing it to full grown.
Speaker 2The cat does stumble away it's fucking Puma and it's, it's a panther or a panther, I don't know. There was like a million cats in a panther, okay, but it does stumble away as if it looks like it has been drugged and I did ask myself did they actually drug the Puma?
Speaker 3or the panther it was the 80s, so very likely that these animals were just like they drugged a female in the show, but that's fine.
Speaker 4Well, we have to get your opinion on some things.
Speaker 2So there is a lot of. So the other cats apparently see this cat being drugged and stumbling around and they scream they're super upset but they just leave. Which is so weird, the other cats. You would think they would attack to defend Black Panther.
Speaker 4But they don't.
Speaker 3How many cats do?
Speaker 2we see in the single frame.
Speaker 4How many cats, I wonder do they all own?
Speaker 3We never see them all in one, only one in a time. No weird.
Speaker 4You can see the cuts whenever different animals are walking so they wouldn't actually fight in real life. No, probably not, good to know.
Speaker 2And then as my first experience of the very fake which I think was felt cat paw Like. It looks like, felt like some sort of paw yesterday.
Speaker 4It definitely looks like felt. It is like if we took there was no time spent on that prop, like if we took like a paint stir stick and covered it and felt and then like pushed out some toothpicks, some white toothpicks out of it. I feel like that's the effect of the Puma.
Speaker 2And that would be more realistic than what I saw in this show.
Speaker 4Yes, and we have to also shake it a little bit, shake it back and forth just pushing through flesh.
Speaker 2It's very misshapen too, but one thing that we do see before the cats leave. They do watch Black Panther transform into man in full clothing.
Speaker 4I think in full, like he's almost always in a tux or tux, yes, he's almost always in a tux, and he does, he does turn into. So I had a lot of questions about that.
Speaker 2We also have a lot of questions so he is, so I would assume that he would transform into a fully tuxedoed Puma or Panther.
Speaker 4Well, yes, that's true, this is true, but that's also problematic.
Speaker 3Do you think his clothes shrink with him?
Speaker 2I don't know. I spent an unhealthy amount of time trying to make this kind of even out in my brain.
Speaker 3I kept thinking the amount of unhealthy time is just the hour and 11 minutes. It was an unhealthy amount of time.
Speaker 4I kept thinking about this is the same year that the thriller video came out and I feel like the thriller video. They did bubble forehead a lot in that video. Well, they had the. You know he turns into the thriller guy, but then at the end doesn't he turn into like a cat, yeah, yeah. And so I just kept thinking and I did a deep dive. I tried to find somebody who worked on both thriller and animal, but I could not find that person.
Speaker 3Because this was the competition.
Speaker 2But did it take that long through the rest of the show Like his transformation takes like a full minute?
Speaker 3There is a good ten minutes of nothing but transformation footage from this episode At least four more of those, so filler.
Speaker 4Oh my god, four of them. You just hear the breathing of Tony jerking off over and over and over again.
Speaker 2There's a lot of breathing. So then they so the rest of the cat team runs away, and they haven't bitten Claude or maimed anyone. They just sat on them and stared at the bad guys. Yes, and why aren't the bad guys just absolutely screaming to each other that they have a full grown ass tiger sitting on their? I mean, they're.
Speaker 3Or like use your oozy, yeah, shoot the god damn cat that is. There's so many questions there, but that is the theme in the whole episode.
Speaker 4A lot of questions.
Speaker 3People see Panther.
Speaker 4Yes.
Speaker 3I mean, if I saw Panther right now. We walked out your door, we went out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out boys studios Went down the street Went down the street Park and there was a panther, I'd be like, oh fuck, we got to go yeah, right now.
Speaker 2The second it turns towards us.
Speaker 3Let's get in a car and let's at least call somebody and then we'll watch the panther until we find animal services or the zoo or somebody.
Speaker 4Yes.
Speaker 3But like that's a fucking panther, it will mall us and everybody else seems to be like.
Speaker 1Interesting.
Speaker 4And on the flip side, but they do pass out a wild animal in this place.
Speaker 3But I think it's a proximity thing, because then if you open a door and there's a panther within 10 feet, then your reaction is more like up.
Speaker 4And you just pass out for hours, yeah you're like I can't believe I saw a panther. I'm fast.
Speaker 3But I think it's a 10 to 12 feet thing, and if you're a criminal.
Speaker 4Would you feel like if you saw this panther in your warehouse looking at you? Would you feel more threatened by that or just by like a guy with a gun? I don't know, I wrestled with that, but I think panther, yeah, I would be, I would be super.
Speaker 2So fucking wrong with you guys, I would be super surprised, but then I would immediately use machine gun in my hand to make them go away. So I'm standing next.
Speaker 4Well, let's not use me as an example, but so you have standing weird, you're standing with your toe pointed, that's right.
Speaker 1And you have facial expressions that are over expressive so you have your funny.
Speaker 3But you're standing there but your fluid movements are great.
Speaker 2But you're standing there in point shoes.
Speaker 4We all agree You're more scared of the person who's going to. You're less scared of the person who's going to shoot at you than you are of the panther at the same distance.
Speaker 2Panthers are apparently a very lethal thing. Well, they do.
Speaker 4So people close to you.
Speaker 2They do nothing. That's the part that was like, okay, we're going to get to that, but I keep going.
Speaker 3So, then.
Speaker 2So they find transformed suit wearing guy. Jonathan Chase who okay, so his name is not Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4It's not Jesus Christ, he does have a lot of monogram to Jaycee.
Speaker 2I thought it was Jesus Christ. Oh yeah, what monogram.
Speaker 4did you see what would so later?
Speaker 1Oh good, so, later, when they're in there in his own personal spa his right, then yes. Is it his?
Speaker 2rape.
Speaker 4It's his rape layer.
Speaker 2I thought it was her porcelain spot. Oh, no, oh because sports porcelain spots.
Speaker 3Oh, they are very important. Part of my position just says it said plans foiled so easily. And the next note is what bathroom, spa, pool is this?
Speaker 2Okay, I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
Speaker 2That's where you are, yes, so so they find him transformed and yet fully clothed, which I have three question marks after that and they decide not to kill him immediately. Like they they're they're few they decide they're going to tie him to the cop that they already found inside what I'm assuming is a boat filled with porcelain spas. So then, this is the first time that I saw the transition. So they're tied together and she's they're back to back on some sort of pole and she's talking to him. So she must be like the leader of the, the team of transformation Tiger people.
Speaker 4The word in the white shirt.
Speaker 2Very close. Well she's, well, it is pink. Actually, I think it was pink, and a few Okay.
Speaker 2Well yeah, she's, but she's beautiful, Just not going to. She's beautiful Beautiful Now, and so she's tied back to back. And so so manimal, guy, puma or whatever guy he is, starts to transform again. That's when I saw the fake forehead face oh my God, the fake bubble hand, and that my note is exactly paw, oh my God. Paul, oh my God. So then manimal cuts the ropes with their teeth and claws. Bad guys comes in to check on the captives and he passes out immediately at the site of the panther, yes, and she grabs this gun, which I felt like was a good call, and then suddenly it transitions to we're in some sort of meeting room, I don't know.
Speaker 4I was totally tuned out by now.
Speaker 3No, it's all. Cargo ships have meeting rooms with stained glass windows that panthers jump through.
Speaker 2Yes, I was super confused.
Speaker 4I remember that for the opening.
Speaker 2We are like a fellowship hall at church, but they're talking about a new world order, so I guess that these are all like people from like that are part of big porcelain spa or something.
Speaker 3I think it's big porcelain.
Speaker 2How many porcelain products are sold, but they were clearly and I use this term very loosely for all the terrorists that listen they were accented and clearly talking about rising up from the ashes of whatever thing they were about to destroy. So they were new world order people.
Speaker 4It reminded me of the new top gun. You know how, the new top gun they don't actually ever define who the enemy is. Yeah, they're just kind of foreign ish. Yeah, let's just say they.
Speaker 3They probably bought a golfing tour, live golf, maybe Something like that, oh, the live golf people.
Speaker 2Ok, so the live golf people.
Speaker 4Greg Norman, I didn't get that. I thought they were Turkish.
Speaker 3Now, he's sad, he was sad, he's just want to ask about what her accent was when you had talked about this.
Speaker 2I thought they were.
Speaker 3Russian because it was like wait oh well Russian and by the way, she's a sex worker.
Speaker 2She's different.
Speaker 4The only reason I say that's confusing is because there is an actual sex worker in a previous scene you didn't see. But the important thing about that sex worker is, in addition to being a Bond girl, she was also in Playboy for which she wait, the Russian girl or the actual sex worker? The Russian girl.
Speaker 2The Russian, she was the Bond girl Tony was actually a Bond girl.
Speaker 4Research along those lines, of course I did. She was in Playboy.
Speaker 2You have the research readily available.
Speaker 4I do not, and also.
Speaker 3Officer Brook McKenzie is also naked. She doesn't look at this. He doesn't look at this on this computer.
Speaker 2It is Wait, the Russian is a cop too.
Speaker 3No.
Speaker 2The the. Oh the other girl that was tied up she gets naked in magazines.
Speaker 4Oh, yes, yes, well, yeah, I yeah, but the movies are in movies.
Speaker 2God bless you for your research, Tony. How quickly did it take? They both were freaking gorgeous, by the way.
Speaker 4Right, pretty quick, and anybody want to guess the Bond girl? Anybody want to? Yeah, the Bond girl was not my thing, but anybody want to guess what she got paid to be in Playboy the first time $100.
Speaker 2I'm going to say $999 billion. It was more.
Speaker 4It was more than anybody had been paid at the time Typically.
Speaker 3Okay, I'm going to. I'm going to guess again. Hold on, what's the game? I'm going to say $230,000.
Speaker 4No, it was $15,000, which was like three times the amount that pinups were normally paid, because she was a Bond girl and then we're talking about the Russian.
Speaker 2Yes, the Russian.
Speaker 4Okay, yes, and then, it like I would do $15,000 and then eventually, evidently much later on. I don't know when playboys.
Speaker 1This person, yes, yes, when playboys freaking gorgeous 65th anniversary came around.
Speaker 4They wanted her to pose again and they they offered her 65,000 and she turned it down.
Speaker 2Yeah, but how old would?
Speaker 1she have been at that point.
Speaker 4Like 65 years later.
Speaker 2How old was she in the show Like?
Speaker 3oldish 40 like yeah, she was, definitely she was. She was in her 50s. No, she wasn't, she would have been in her 40s.
Speaker 4I vote no.
Speaker 3I think she was a little older.
Speaker 4Fuck you, are you talking? Fuck you. They did her no favors. That's what I'll say. The makeup and wardrobe department did her a hand, no favors. No, she had her feet. Look like that blonde hair. No, tony, come on, how old was she when they she film this? No, no, the concept, the real dear. What else did you see?
Speaker 2Okay okay, okay, move on. I'll say here we go.
Speaker 4When do you think this show jumped the shark? That's my question.
Speaker 1All of it.
Speaker 4Because I was thinking about that for a long time. But then, of course, I realized what I'll tell you when at four minutes and one hour and eight minutes.
Speaker 3That's right.
Speaker 2So the cops bust in on this meeting of the the new world order and I think some sort of deal for spas and is being made, and the Black Panther jumps through a stained glass window which I didn't understand were on ships. So I'm right there with you, tony. I didn't know where he was coming from.
Speaker 3We're in the chaplain's room.
Speaker 2It's the port hole. It wasn't a port hole.
Speaker 3It's a very expensive.
Speaker 2I think you're saying that wrong.
Speaker 3He put a lot of images in a hole, all right, so.
Speaker 2So this is where I got super confused because we're in the meeting room that is also the chapel and a port hole. He jumps through the window. They all immediately give up. Like immediately or arrested.
Speaker 3Well, she also has a Mac 10 machine gun in her hands.
Speaker 2Okay, then they jump to the cops house and she's enjoying some sort of and built in indoor spa. She's like a real fancy house. It's JC's house. Oh, god damn it, it's Jesus's house, mm hmm, oh house. Ish, it's his layer. I thought she lived in like some sort of abandoned church. Doubles as a zoo.
Speaker 1So my note of that point was why don't we?
Speaker 3embroider more things.
Speaker 2My Ashley would monogram the shit out of everything I own if I gave her that power. Okay, so, so then, sexy, sack, music, sacks, music starts playing and it, it. This next scene is clearly like the setup to a porn, like they are their sexy time getting ready to happen, or it did happen. I don't know if I missed something. Is this are they already partners.
Speaker 4Is this where he tells her like to drink this?
Speaker 1and you forget. No, that was earlier.
Speaker 4Okay, she says that was after the process. I wasn't sure which sexy time this was.
Speaker 3You see, Cosby sir, yes.
Speaker 4Many times.
Speaker 3Oh, he is a creepy mother times this actor and he's vaguely British, yeah.
Speaker 2I think he's a faking. No, he's vaguely.
Speaker 4He's lit, he's literally British in real life.
Speaker 2I think he is. Yeah, nobody likes him, so she so so. So sexy time is about to break out, or it already has. She knows that he's secretly a cat.
Speaker 1Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2But he's afraid that she's going to tell a secret, correct. And then she says something about they haven't caught the kernel yet, mm, hmm. And then it cuts to some dude in a pool and a shark comes after him.
Speaker 3He's the kernel.
Speaker 2And I can't compute that. Oh, I mean, I don't even know A shark, just appears like did it come out of the drain, so does he have telepathy with other animals.
Speaker 4So he seems to be able to talk to some of them.
Speaker 3What's weird is I felt like you described 10 minutes of the episode right.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3I actually feel like you described the whole episode.
Speaker 4It's true all the way down to the list is such a long episode that nothing nothing really happens and everything happens. And how could nothing happen?
Speaker 2Everything happens, it's all the same stuff they just over and over and over and over and over and over and over no but every time there is so much stock zoo footage, I'm sorry I'm going to cut you off.
Speaker 3Good, every, every time, he's using his powers. He's using his power just to listen and watch.
Speaker 2He's observing, that's that's all he really does, like he has good cat hearing. Yeah, he's got cat, but he has that when he's a man.
Speaker 4So why does he need to turn into the cat? Because they, they also, they also. Let's show him using the powers of the animals when he's a man. Yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's really weird. He is Well, he just looks at so his. So this episode revolved, so you've got some some thoughts that are right. You're not far off In addition to big porcelain.
Speaker 4I also also needle clamp screws were one of the things they were shipping.
Speaker 3They were also shipping sewing machines, yeah, and the thing that knocked them out was nerve gas, yes, which I don't know about cat nerve gas I don't know if you know, but no, no, no, normal nerve gas.
Speaker 2So they aren't at war with the cats? No, no, no. Nobody has any idea what the cats are doing.
Speaker 3There is this whole episode of all is around the idea that there is a smuggling operation that is horse, it's smuggling. Smuggling anything that they can is illegal.
Speaker 4There they're, they're in the. In the opening scene he learns.
Speaker 3Yeah, In the opening scene you learn about machine guns, tear gas guns, in fact that the guys that get caught in the first scene are smoking a cigarette and they, like, flick the cigarette into what then is a spilled, because the truck knocks over. Of course they catch them and the truck knocks over and they throw the cigarette, but into like ammunition, which of course blows the truck up.
Speaker 2Yes, oh, so they're smuggling ammunition. Then yeah, there are a lot of things, there's been a lot of things.
Speaker 3Ammunition force, the smuggling drugs, nerve gas, obviously, Bob, in cases.
Speaker 2So, so they're very well organized. Ask a very fundamental question what is a porcelain spa?
Speaker 1Is it like a whirlpool yeah, it's like a toilet or a bidet, or something you can also?
Speaker 3or is it an actual one of those top spa that may not have a porcelain but, hold on, does it? Well, tony knows? Is it a bathtub of the jets? I do, I do.
Speaker 2She get rid of that, like the one in West Side Story. You get rid of it. Have you seen those videos? Banana cleaning your.
Speaker 3Clean your bath tub with your bath tub has jets.
Speaker 2Yeah, I've cleaned. Have you seen the videos? No, like YouTube. What?
Speaker 4are the videos that I mean. I'll make you regret it. No, I've clean, I've cleaned it, I've completely changed out the motor inside of my telling
Speaker 3you.
Speaker 4No, no, I've cleaned it, I'm fine. Well, everything got replaced after the fire.
Speaker 3So that's, ok. Yeah give it a year.
Speaker 1What do they get? Get all gross.
Speaker 3I've seen how much back here you have, that's true.
Speaker 1No, no, no.
Speaker 2So this is a part of the show You're just saying. You saw a YouTube video where, like, jets are dirty.
Speaker 4I'm just curious Do you drink the water of the bath jets that you're in? You lay in have you ever been in a hot tub.
Speaker 3You just lay in we all agree, you don't.
Speaker 2I don't love, oh, I fucking love hot.
Speaker 3I don't love hot, I don't know, I fucking love.
Speaker 2I don't like we got distracted. People suit.
Speaker 4This is true this is you like taking baths, so you, you like to take bath every once in a while, I like to be completely immersed in water.
Speaker 3If I love a bath, breathe underwater, I would want my bath is is there's no jet but you?
Speaker 2do post shower bath right Sure.
Speaker 1Yeah, I have to shower. Right, I have to shower first.
Speaker 2If I take a bath where I'm soaking in hot water, I will immediately exit the bath and take a shower where I rinse off.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't know what. Yes, so fuck are we talking about. Correct, okay, okay. What the fuck are we talking about, right?
Speaker 3now Really straight stuff. Oh, now I understand. So this episode, it like it introduces this, basically, the first scene-ish is these smugglers that are that are have been caught by a cop or two cops and in the process of trying to apprehend them, one of the older cop dies and the female cop who was younger is left, you know, alive. So she doesn't control the cats.
Speaker 2She wants to, then. She wants to then like avenge her partner.
Speaker 4Right and becomes the smartest cop ever.
Speaker 3Yes, in the same. She's not a detective, she's a cop In plainclothes.
Speaker 4All of a sudden, now she's in plainclothes, correct, now she's on her own roof In the same scenario, Does she's in plainclothes? Watch out, in plainclothes. I like how you say that. I know you do.
Speaker 3In the same scenario, she sees a black panther. She's not freaked out by this. I mean, she's freaked out by like, oh, what's up with that? But she's not freaked out that like, oh my God, I saw a fucking wild cat and somebody should arrest this cat. She didn't say that.
Speaker 2So everyone's. Oh so, is it common knowledge within the universe that there are people that transform the cats? No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3All he is. He is just a.
Speaker 4He is a college professor that also works with the police department in their science division, and he fought, he fought in a ma'am and he got put in a tiger cage and then he started breathing a lot.
Speaker 3They don't explain, they don't explain, they don't explain his plan.
Speaker 1He fought in NOM. They don't explain his partner.
Speaker 3Who is introduced for 30 seconds?
Speaker 1Who's the best?
Speaker 3Who's?
Speaker 2the best part A female cop.
Speaker 3No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on hold, on, hold, on hold on hold on Okay, okay, no he.
Speaker 2This is nothing have to do with my supposition by the way. There's nothing to do with your supposition I leaned heavily into the porcelain spa angle no none of it.
Speaker 3I can probably tell by the way we all reacted. None of us knew anything about a porcelain spa. None of us picked up on that.
Speaker 4We did not give a shit with what they were smuggling by the end. We gave two fucks about that I sent you the picture in the first five minutes. I sent you the picture with their smuggling. So I was so excited. I was like, wow, they're so organized with their smuggling, they go through all of this, they go through all of this.
Speaker 3They go through all of this. Their truck is a sewing machine truck. It says sewing machine blah blah, blah.
Speaker 4It's a giant sewing machine. No, no, it is not a giant, it's a machine, it just says somebody's sewing machine on the side of the truck.
Speaker 3But what's funny is that as they're loading it, the bad guy drew he's the one that's the head bad guy and moving all the guns and shit, you can see him with a list. So they went through all of the effort of making it not look like it's a gun running. But on the actual list itself it says 200 Mac 10 machine guns.
Speaker 4Yes, yes, it's literally a decoder list of what is what, and I'm like these guys are gonna get caught.
Speaker 3But, all the while, the entire, so when they're saying porcelain spa, they mean Mac 10 guns.
Speaker 2Yeah, the entire episode.
Speaker 3the guy that was in the shark attack at the end is a colonel and he is the through line of the army. Who is colonel of the army. So you are mixing the police officers and the military together and this colonel is facilitating these shipments. Colonel Hunt, so that it will Excuse me. It's actually a sea hunt, a sea hunt okay.
Speaker 2Colonel Sea Hunt Okay.
Speaker 3A sea hunt, and so hunt, he's our colonel of our country, hunt.
Speaker 2Our country, okay, country, and so he is. Oh, I don't get it.
Speaker 3He's facilitating this, like you know, smuggling business through like, oh yeah, it's fine, we're not gonna worry about this boat cause it's fine. And of course, nerve gas is on and he's selling it to the nerve.
Speaker 2Terrorists, mm-hmm, all of us. So that's the cat, the cat knockout gas that I saw earlier.
Speaker 3It was just nerve gas, but there's so much in between those things, that doesn't make any difference. It doesn't make any difference and also doesn't make any sense, Like notes that I wrote were. So the cat visual effect was the only one they had money for. Yes so he turns into a bird.
Speaker 1So the bubble forehead is used a lot? Yes, can you tell us?
Speaker 4what other animals does he turn into, cause you seem to know some other animals he turns into.
Speaker 2Well, I kind of cheated because in the credits. There is a cobra, nope, he doesn't turn into a cobra.
Speaker 3Keep going, keep going.
Speaker 2I did notice that in the park there was an earthworm. Nope, no, okay, keep going. And then that's pretty much what's in the credits.
Speaker 3Yeah, but you saw other animals. Right In the last few months I saw a lot of them.
Speaker 2I saw like I saw lions and tigers and jaguars and poos, and what was the what?
Speaker 4was the? What was the one? Lions and tigers, and what Jaguars and poos?
Speaker 3Like from what I can tell. See that, from what I can tell, wait hold on.
Speaker 4No, no, no. What did you say before?
Speaker 2Lions, tigers, jaguars and poos. No, just just wait. The one starts with a J.
Speaker 3Wait a minute. Does that start with a J Jaguars? Wait what we found it what? He put an extra A on the end of that Go again.
Speaker 2What Jaguars? And okay, Jaguars, Spell it. Wait, hold on.
Speaker 3Spell it for the class.
Speaker 2I can't spell no, come on, come on.
Speaker 3Chad can't spell, but you can.
Speaker 2J-A-G-U Come on.
Speaker 3Don't be a. Don't be a dick. Okay wait, don't be a dick.
Speaker 4So imagine you're driving a car that's an expensive car, that's got Jaguar.
Speaker 3Oh my God, are you British.
Speaker 4Do you have a helicopter?
Speaker 3Helicopter.
Speaker 2Okay, we're getting off the helicopter. Do you have a helicopter or?
Speaker 3a helicopter.
Speaker 2I'm just curious.
Speaker 3Is that the?
Speaker 4way they pronounce it in Britain.
Speaker 2Jaguar. Okay, then why don't?
Speaker 4you have a fucking British accent. I don't know, it's just how I learned it.
Speaker 3There's nothing after the R besides the S dickhead.
Speaker 1Who taught you? Who taught you this Jaguar? Isn't that like a?
Speaker 4jabber.
Speaker 3Are you sure you're not thinking of Jaguar? He's putting something after the R, is it Jaguaras? Say it again, brent Jaguar.
Speaker 2Lions tigers, jaguars no.
Speaker 3Stop, you're a fucking dick. Say the word, say the word Jaguar, jaguar.
Speaker 2That's how I say it, I'm slowing it down, wait it's.
Speaker 3Jaguar.
Speaker 2Jaguar, jaguar.
Speaker 3Jaguar, jaguar.
Speaker 2Well now, my brain is like fucking crazy.
Speaker 1You're saying it. You're saying it, it's.
Speaker 2Jaguar, jaguar, thank you, jaguar no.
Speaker 3Oh my God, you fucking idiot. Jesus Jaguar, you're saying Jaguar, jaguar.
Speaker 2You're not saying it right.
Speaker 3No, it's Jaguar, jaguar, say it slower, jaguar.
Speaker 2Jaguar, jaguar Jaguar.
Speaker 3No, what? You say it faster, then you say it faster.
Speaker 2Lions, tigers, bears and jaguars.
Speaker 3No Say, jag Say Jag, jag Say the word war.
Speaker 2War, say raw, jag War Jaguar. There you go, jaguar.
Speaker 4No, say raw, say raw, what Say raw.
Speaker 2Raw.
Speaker 4Now say Jaguar.
Speaker 2Jaguar.
Speaker 1Jaguar, I was just trying to get you to make a sound. That, jaguar, it goes raw Jaguar.
Speaker 3It's a Jaguar Anyway he turns into a panther jaguar. Whatever it is panther, some kind of cat?
Speaker 4So does he not turn into the fucking snake? No, the cobra, the cobra that's used to interrogate is brought in.
Speaker 1You're made to think that because, Wait a second.
Speaker 2Did they just bring the snake in for fun? What sentence did you just say? Ok, they used.
Speaker 4Ok, Jag they interrogate a guy.
Speaker 3They're trying to interrogate the lead bad guy. His name is Drew. He's in with a sex worker. They go to his apartment and he's about to have sex with a stripper or a prostitute. She faints and Ty.
Speaker 2She faints because of sex.
Speaker 3Ty is Jesus' sidekick, right the black guy? Yes, the cobra.
Speaker 2Oh OK, he's a protector I thought the cobra was named Ty.
Speaker 3So then he walks into this Drew's apartment, he sneaks in and then he goes into the bathroom and he sets the basket on the ground in the bathroom behind the prostitute, and then he takes off the lid and then a cobra pops out.
Speaker 2She sees it and she passes out, and that is Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3No, no, no, that is actually turns out to be a real cobra, but they seem to be.
Speaker 4Yes, they seem to be tricking us somehow. Ok, wait, but did you recognize where the guy was from? The actor who played the sidekick Did you recognize? Where he was from Because you guys have been watching or I think Jason's been rewatching the Wire or watching the first time in a while.
Speaker 1He's been a ton of moves.
Speaker 4He's the mayor in the Wire, oh shit.
Speaker 2Yes, he's actually got an amazing career and I feel like for Aquaboy, the mayor in the Wire. Yeah, glenn.
Speaker 4Terman, yeah, he's the mayor in the Wire and then eventually the former mayor in the Wire, but then also he was on Broadway when he was 12. Yeah, that's him.
Speaker 2Oh, wow, yeah, OK.
Speaker 4When he was 12, he was in the original Raisin and the Sun. For those of you gay theater nerds with me, he played opposite Sidney Poitier in Raisin and the Sun on Broadway when he was 12. That was the original cast, and then the thing that I feel like is the most important for our Aquaboy listeners is that he was indeed married to Aretha Franklin for six years. What the fucking fuck Holy shit, so I just wanted to pass that along.
Speaker 2Who had what? The longest funeral of all time. It was like 75 feet.
Speaker 1I don't remember seeing him at it, but I'm going to go back, I'm going to rewind.
Speaker 4I'm going to go see what's happening with the Aretha Franklin.
Speaker 2What you're telling me is that this had nothing to do with some sort of big cat rescue farm.
Speaker 4No, no, no, no. I literally wrote Snake in a Basket.
Speaker 2What the fuck.
Speaker 4An.
Speaker 2Egyptian headdress that she found in a cave.
Speaker 3So the moment that no, also not that. So the moment that we learn that the snake is not him.
Speaker 2But he's controlling it with his mind. Where that's our question, he's not even there yet.
Speaker 3Well, he comes in, he just shows up, he shows up.
Speaker 4It was confusing as fuck. It was momentarily out of the.
Speaker 3I like boom, he's there, like somehow, so we're meant to believe.
Speaker 2So they're interrogating with the snake, like they're expecting the snake to ask all the tough questions. No, no, no so like yes, yes, that's kind of it.
Speaker 3Every scene that has an animal, this same actor immediately shows up. So we're like used to this.
Speaker 2Oh, so he's oh wow, he just he's not the cobra.
Speaker 3Disappeared. Now he's there. This is the first incident where the cobra shows up. His partner brings the cobra in a basket, lets it out. The cobra shows up, freaks people out. And then this the same detective or not detective, police officer, what's her name? Again. Whatever name is, she shows up. She thinks by this point she has a theory. She has a theory that this animal is Brooke McKenzie. Brooke McKenzie has a theory that, like the professor who controls animals, is actually animal anamorphic.
Speaker 2So at this point she doesn't know that he's a puma.
Speaker 4So she? No, she thinks he is, and so that's why she thinks he's a snake.
Speaker 3She grabs the cobra, she grabs him just like willy nilly, like. Give me this fucking code.
Speaker 2She thinks it's in the credit, that's in the credit she's grabbing this cobra and looking his face like you, fucking bitch cobra.
Speaker 3What a little dick you are, okay. And then she then all of a sudden, behind her, walks in the professor, who is the guy that actually turns into a panther. She's like, oh my God, she freaks out, she dies or she passes out. And then the next scene. Yes, thank you. Motherfucker Correct. And then the next scene she's in different clothing. She's in different clothing, but she shows up. She's at his house.
Speaker 3In a bed and he's like here, my house, whatever, and she's like trying to find lights, and she finds lights and she turns them on.
Speaker 2So what's the Hold on? Okay, okay.
Speaker 3And in turning on the lights she also discovers a zoo exhibit.
Speaker 4Oh, that's on in the basement.
Speaker 3Which has a panther in the basement.
Speaker 1Yes, behind glass Like there at the zoo.
Speaker 3No, no, this is so because you're like what's going on? And then he happens to walk in while the panther's there and she's like what the fuck's happening?
Speaker 2The panther's like sitting in an easy chain, somehow like panther is behind.
Speaker 4No, it's no no, she raises the glass. Yeah, she accidentally raises the glass.
Speaker 3The panther walks towards you like I'm going to kill you, and the guy walks in. That is the panther. The professor walks in with his mind.
Speaker 4Panther for what? No, he's in man form, but we never know. He like has a little conversation. He's like hey, I just raped this lady and I'm going to rape her again. So get the fuck out of here. We skipped something.
Speaker 2She's so confused, Hold on hold on.
Speaker 1Hold on.
Speaker 2Wait, can I ask you a quick question? Okay, so he has to have.
Speaker 4So he know, because he shows it Well, where the fuck is his shark living?
Speaker 2So does he have to own.
Speaker 3No no.
Speaker 2Speak a animal that he can transform into?
Speaker 4I don't think so. Wouldn't it just be easier? Can he just turn into other people? Wouldn't that just be easier?
Speaker 3You would think you would think but no no, they have the scene with the cobras. How does this go back to Vietnam? Melody passes out, okay. Okay, they wake up in his apartment. She's laying in bed, she's naked. She's wearing his robe and he's also wearing like a red monogram and he's wearing a monogram and he's on the bed.
Speaker 2Is her robe monogramed? Yes, it is. It's got Jesus Christ on it.
Speaker 3And he's putting a. He has a cloth on her forehead and she's kind of groggy.
Speaker 4And then she realized she passed out from the cobra. She passed out from the cobra and just got undressed by him and she's literally asked him.
Speaker 3Okay, sorry. So she realizes that she's not wearing any clothes, she's wearing his robe. And then so she asks him why am I wearing this? And he says this what is this?
Speaker 2Oh, it's my robe. It's extremely unwise for anyone unconscious to wear clothing that is tight or binding. It sounds like a set up to a porn as well.
Speaker 4Sounds like a fucking serial killer.
Speaker 3You're really enjoying this, aren't you? So she kind of freaks out. After that she's like I got to get the hell out of here. Wait a minute.
Speaker 2Wait one for one second, one second.
Speaker 4Something feels like it's been inside me and we agree that he is not British.
Speaker 2That's a fake British accent. No, he's really British, he's really.
Speaker 3British he's doing the worst British accent ever. He's trying to be posh, or?
Speaker 4something. So he's doing like the American accent. He probably talks like. He probably is really cocky and real. He's probably like good day governor Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 3He's not like with a cocky accent. Good eye. Well, I thought that he was this fucking twat has got me old, twisted around me knuckles.
Speaker 1Oh, I'm just going to rape her as many animals as I can.
Speaker 3We're trying to do the same with some fucking pussy cats.
Speaker 2And this fucking bitch and a bird and a hot bird, is this train spawning all of a sudden?
Speaker 4I'll have a drink, this drink, and then I'll fuck her again.
Speaker 3Boy man the safest thing to do is to change out of your pajamas. That's right. This fucking twat doesn't know what pajamas is. You know I'm saying so she's freaking out. Diminate him, diminate him, diminate him.
Speaker 1In Jolly Olin when we call them poofas or boozey front thing or boosies.
Speaker 3Yeah front fatty.
Speaker 4It's just so. That's what she freaks out Back up.
Speaker 2I got a question I got to insert in here.
Speaker 4I'm not a key, a butter it is.
Speaker 2I'm going to insert my question.
Speaker 3I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4I apologize. I apologize, it's my fault. Please insert your question.
Speaker 2Okay, let me. Okay, you guys present and I'll insert. So is he trying to do an American accent but it's failing, or is he trying to overdo what Americans would perceive as a British accent?
Speaker 3Yes, I think he's just trying to be very suave, he's it's very like a double seven-ish Grooming.
Speaker 1he's grooming her.
Speaker 2I'm definitely very fancier. Second question so this is not the guy who played face on A-Team no this is not that actor. Benedict, I think is it's not him.
Speaker 3It is not him. Okay, this guy did Manimal and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 2Really yes, nothing after that, nothing really no, not even adult films? No, are you sure? No, I know you checked, you, little minks. Okay, all right, keep going.
Speaker 3She freaks out, and that's when he recommends to her let me give you this pill that will help you forget Any Cosmos. So he tries to Cosmos. Again, again, because he's definitely already done it once, because he gives her the pill, she fakes taking the pill and she lays down. She waits for the other two guys to go to bed because they say we're gonna go to bed. And then she gets out. Wait what two guys. Jesus Christ and Ty, I mean. They say they're going to bed. They say they're going to bed.
Speaker 2Literally that's a weird visual it is, but whatever. So let's go to bed.
Speaker 3Jesus Christ is a guy named Ty. He's got a Z shell necklace. Then she gets out of bed and then Jesus.
Speaker 2Christ is the guy from the wire.
Speaker 1They both go to sleep. They go to bed, they go to bed.
Speaker 3No, the wire guy's not there. No he's there too. He lives with him.
Speaker 4At some point? Also, doesn't the panther fall asleep next to her too? At some point, yes, for some fucking weird reason.
Speaker 2The wire guy Wait he's the panther.
Speaker 3No, no, wait, where's the wire guy? This fucking shit is outrageous.
Speaker 4Well, they spent all this time in a tiger cage I watched it.
Speaker 2They spent all the time in a tiger cage and Ty and Liz got really close and you guys still haven't gotten it clear to me why he lives in a zoo.
Speaker 4We also haven't gotten it clear to us why he lives in an underground zoo.
Speaker 3She goes to investigate. She goes into his basement, that's what she sees All of the other animals that he owns and she finds it. He has animals in cages?
Speaker 2Yes, that's what they're trying to say.
Speaker 3That's what they're trying to say they're friends, but apparently he speaks to them as well as being them.
Speaker 3I don't understand so she's looking around his desk, she accidentally hits a button that opens up the enclosure for the panther. So that happens. Then she finds his journals, and that's where we hear his backstory, when he and Ty were in Vietnam and they were both in a little cage pastored by the Vietnam and they were about to be killed. And that's whenever Jesus Christ turns into a panther. And okay, well, you watched his hand turn into a panther, right.
Speaker 2Yes, okay.
Speaker 3That took less I'm sorry more time than their backstory for the friendship between him and the Vietnam War. Oh, so the the the, the, the guy that assists him.
Speaker 2The mayor, the future mayor of the wire yes, was with him In the Vietnam, behind the wire in Vietnam. Correct, they got captured.
Speaker 3They got captured by the Viet Cong and in that process JC turned into a panther, bit their ropes to get them out and which his best friend had no reaction to. It was like dude dude, that's fucking sweet that you can turn into a fucking panther.
Speaker 2So he was born as a mutant. Basically Apparently no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no His father had the same power.
Speaker 3His father, no, his father was a researcher of the power, but he had the he had the same power he inherited from his dad.
Speaker 4Oh, I thought he inherited the. No, he inherited the research, but it wasn't until he was in the tiger cage.
Speaker 3It was the. He inherited the ability to turn into other animals. Disagree, I think you just inherited the research. You're wrong. You're wrong, chad.
Speaker 4It was these huge fuck off books of research.
Speaker 2The real guy, the real guy was, but I mean before he was born. So she didn't. So she didn't find a mummified Egyptian king whose head dress was in the shape of a woman's reproductive system no, no, not heaven. Okay, just checking, because that was my supposition.
Speaker 4I just feel like Tony misled our listener because he did do 59 episodes of Falcon Crest. Oh, he was in.
Speaker 1Falcon.
Speaker 4Crest After this, and he was indeed born in Cambridge Shire, England.
Speaker 2Oh, Jesus Christ was.
Speaker 4Yes and his dad. I really was interested because his dad is Sir John Mills. I don't know the fuck that is, but it sounds very British to me.
Speaker 3Fuck it, there's literally nothing of note in this show. No, nothing really. There's nothing like you have.
Speaker 2How could it not be? This is everything. And there's an animal transformation, you know everything and it is confusing a fuck.
Speaker 3I feel like I could write 10 volumes.
Speaker 4This is more confusing than chance.
Speaker 1Of confusing elements, more confusing than my sexuality.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'm sorry, I stepped on that joke.
Speaker 3No, you're fine, You're welcome. I am in the unsure column of this episode.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 4That's why I'm 5.5. Now, if it was a scale from zero to 10, I would be a fuck.
Speaker 3I just don't even understand like what happened, why, who?
Speaker 4We all understood the rape. We knew that he's a rapist that changes into animals.
Speaker 3Right, there was one ET callback where as fuck yes, as JC turns into a hawk, which he's done multiple times in the episode.
Speaker 4Wait he can be a bird, oh yes, but you never see it.
Speaker 3You never see it.
Speaker 4No that's the only other thing you're seeing when you get to fly.
Speaker 3seeing out of his own eyes do you see from his own eyes? As I understand it, they never show the transition. They never show it. They only show Panther transition.
Speaker 4They only had the one effect no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1The heart transition I feel like you see, like a little bit of the hand going like this no, no, no, there was a different hand moment. No, that's his pussy grab.
Speaker 4That's.
Speaker 1Donald Trump's pussy grab, that could be.
Speaker 2That's his pussy grabber, okay. No you never see, so you don't see him transition into a bird no, fuck no. Or a cobra no, it becomes a bird but at one point it becomes a hawk.
Speaker 3He's flying to try to go find the bad guys and he flies over the moon and they're like paws in the middle of the moon, as to be like.
Speaker 2Oh, from the ET reference Gotcha. So does he have in his private zoo? Does he have a cobra and a hawk?
Speaker 4No, well, we didn't get that deep into it.
Speaker 3The only animal that they show is the Panther, that's it. I thought there were other cages though Also he falls in love with this Mackenzie. What it bridges? Wait, Brooke Mackenzie. Wait, do you?
Speaker 4fall in love with the girl you're raping, I guess if you're a psychopath.
Speaker 3Oh, that's fucked up, but he does fall in love with her.
Speaker 4Why did you ask Jason that question specifically In episode one? I should have asked you, you're right. Oh shit, what a dick.
Speaker 3What a dick it is. There's so much that's trying to happen, this one episode and honestly, like.
Speaker 2None of it helps it. What are the rules? No, there are no rules.
Speaker 4There appear to be no rules.
Speaker 2Clothing is on.
Speaker 4Clothing's off. It materializes, it first, it materializes.
Speaker 3He turns into a Panther. Right, we've even brought up the fact that he but then later he gets into the rules of like he can control animals. Yeah, he can control. He needs backup and he can control the other animals. But we haven't even discussed when he turned himself into a house cat and he puts his head inside of Ursula Andrew's bathrobe while she's on the phone.
Speaker 4Oh yes, that's true.
Speaker 2Also because that's when I wrote what animal do you think he likes to rape as most? I was processing Tony, okay, say that again slower. So he has identified.
Speaker 3he identified that there is this woman. The sex worker who wears a fur coat.
Speaker 4You know well, this is your sex worker.
Speaker 3You identified her as a sex worker.
Speaker 4But she's the.
Speaker 3In your mind. That's who she is. She's the boss lady. He identifies her as a prime suspect that is connecting with the colonel we don't know as bad yet at this point. How do they know that the they discovered this through the bad guys and the corruption.
Speaker 2Oh, so she is responsible for murdering Cop's partner?
Speaker 3Yeah, so JC is now a hawk and JC flies around trying to get close enough to the conversations to listen to this, who you understand as a sex worker.
Speaker 2Yeah, the big boss lady yeah.
Speaker 3So he follows her to her apartment, okay, in which he sneaks in her window.
Speaker 2That's kind of hot. Okay, we don't know what he does. Yeah, we don't know what he changes into or whatever there.
Speaker 3But then she comes to her home, in her apartment, she starts changing clothes, she goes naked apparently.
Speaker 4She gets out of the shower, she goes to the shower.
Speaker 3She goes naked, she goes to the closet and she Did they show it Before she goes to the closet. She gets on the phone and she's talking to the colonel Mid combo. She says hold up a second, let me just do something. She goes to the closet because she thinks she hears something. Sure enough, there's now a white, fluffy like house cat in the closet. Person. She doesn't fucking have a house cat. She's like oh, a cat got in my car. Oh my God, a house cat got in here.
Speaker 4How did it happen? It's weird that she doesn't faint Because it surprises her.
Speaker 2So he's controlling the house cat, so he is the house cat. He is the house cat at this point, so she just picks up the house cat, go ahead, tony.
Speaker 3While she's in the shower, he comes in the door and he starts snooping around. Then, all of a sudden, the phone rings. He hears the phone ringing, he runs into her closet and then she comes out immediately after that, answers the phone and then Jesus Christ is transferring into a cat while she's in the closet. She hears it, she puts down the phone to investigate the sound. She picks up the cat. Oh, a cat. She picks up a random fucking cat. Who does that? Who is in their house? And a cat is there when you're not expecting it, so she doesn't even bat an eye, like right now in Awkaboy's.
Speaker 3Zero fucks given A cat pops out of the door and you're like what the fuck? Let me pick up that cat. No, fuck, no, you don't, I would put that cat.
Speaker 2You're like get this fucking cat out of here. It is a rogue cat, but what were you saying about it?
Speaker 3It puts his head on her, so she's on the phone, so we're not in there yet no, she's on the phone talking with the Colonel going over all of their evil plans. Then they cut to a shot of the cat has put his head inside of her bathroom next to her titties. She's just got out of the shower. She's naked.
Speaker 4This is the most rapy show I think we've watched, which is why I think Brian will vote to renew.
Speaker 1And it's not an accident. It's not an accident.
Speaker 3They have put the cat's head under her robe For real. No, it's like covered by the robe. Yeah, it's looking nipple, it's. It's. It's for sure looking nipple. It's very odd.
Speaker 4Yeah, you know what I wish? You could watch this show. And then you're thinking the tech.
Speaker 3That is an interesting texture. They definitely enticed that cat. I got to go, guys, I'm going to go find a cat Stack. So there's nothing redeemable of a show Cat blow jobs, I don't know.
Speaker 4There's nothing else Like that the tongue is so sandpapery.
Speaker 3That was the only thing we had. It hurts so good.
Speaker 2Right in the hole.
Speaker 3Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Yeah, so that that's the end of the show. They stop the world.
Speaker 4I thought you meant our show.
Speaker 3They stop the world. The end of the show. You show. You saw the show. There is no through line. It is fucking crazy. So OK.
Speaker 4It's like loss there's a million questions and never an answer. That's true.
Speaker 2And that is very true.
Speaker 3Questions here they basically stop the world.
Speaker 2They destroyed from nerve gas.
Speaker 3With a cat, a lion, a lioness and a hawk. I have a shark. There are there are.
Speaker 2OK. How can I say this?
Speaker 3There are no team of man no, no, it is all him.
Speaker 2It's all him, so he's controlling all those other cats in the warehouse.
Speaker 3Correct. And one point I asked question what is Wait, Is the cat an actual cat? And then later I'm like oh no, no, it's not.
Speaker 4And then I did have this thought too, because I feel like all the cabbies were super cooperative with him Very cooperative Do you? Think he could also control the cabbies the way that he can control the other animals, probably.
Speaker 2What is a cabbie?
Speaker 1Like somebody's driving a cab. Oh, that's not the time, so I could.
Speaker 4I feel like the New York cab drivers are all really like, willing to help him out with anything he needs. You show me a business card.
Speaker 3Ok, you can take over yeah come on, they also have weird healing powers, like he can heal himself. Like he's gotten hurt multiple times and like he's shot.
Speaker 2So is he super human in general Like he, I guess, does he have cat abilities, even if he's not cat. He's just super creepy.
Speaker 3He's super rapy, you got shot at one point though, and just.
Speaker 2Because cats are horny.
Speaker 3Are they?
Speaker 2Cats are horny pets. No, I think you're thinking of nine lives, did you?
Speaker 3guys notice that the music was fucking.
Speaker 4It was really annoying.
Speaker 3There was an entire first like 15 minutes the show was like a high pitch screech. That made me think that.
Speaker 4I was maybe a dog, but they played beat it.
Speaker 3They did have beat it, but it was not a Michael Jackson version of beat it.
Speaker 4Yeah, that was Michael Jackson it was not Michael Jackson. No fucking way, that was totally Michael Jackson. It was not Michael Jackson, 100% Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3I can't wait. How do they fight?
Speaker 4you, we are going to fight. I'm going to find that shit right now and play. Ok, go ahead. It was not Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2How did they work in beat it by Michael Jackson? It was just in a book. They went to a nightclub.
Speaker 1Oh OK.
Speaker 3It was the very beginning of the show. When they're trying to investigate and they're trying to, they're following the guy.
Speaker 4Not the very beginning, it was probably like 30 minutes in. It was fucking nightmare. It felt like forever. Horrible it was horrible.
Speaker 3They go into a nightclub. They're trying to catch the Drew guy and what the?
Speaker 2what guy the Drew? Oh, ok, the Drew, he was Drew.
Speaker 3No, it was not good. Let me talk about the Drews. Oh my God. Please don't bring them up. This was not Schindler's List at all.
Speaker 2I was so shocked. For a minute there I was like I didn't even know that angle existed in the show. It's all just that point. Wow, you guys sound like you really love this show.
Speaker 3It was so bananas, like I mean, there's no through line, like no just no. Nothing makes sense. So the very end where the shark fin pops up in the pool, that's the entire show, we think nothing makes sense and also we don't even know there was no shark through the rest of the show. We also don't even know for sure if that was just a joke, if that actually was JC, If that was JC trying to play a prank, if JC was going to eat him.
Speaker 1we don't even we don't know, they don't explain. I don't know. That is not Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3You didn't tell me, michael Jackson.
Speaker 2It's not Michael Jackson. It sounds like one of those things If you love Michael. Jackson, you'll love Jackson, michael Maybe it is.
Speaker 4That is Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3That is not Michael Jackson. Well, either way, it didn't advance the plot, so I guess that is a matter.
Speaker 1It had nothing to do with the show.
Speaker 3Much like everything else on the show had nothing to do with the show. All right, let's vote.
Speaker 2OK, well, let me ask one more question. So that's Michael.
Speaker 4Jackson. I'm voting to renew. Motherfuckers, that's Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2So there was no cop that ran a cat rescue that starts building a litter box that will accommodate the cats accordingly.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2OK, gosh dang, that was way off my supposition.
Speaker 4Did any of your supposition include rape? No rape.
Speaker 2It basically included litter boxes that enclosed thousands of acres of land.
Speaker 3No, that is off. You have a thing with cats, sentient cats, and litter boxes.
Speaker 2Sentient cats are in there and they go to war because they realize that the litter boxes are.
Speaker 3No, that's not all, that's true.
Speaker 2OK.
Speaker 3Cats are persecuting the droos. I wish you'd talked about that. That would have been more fun.
Speaker 2All right. So, guys, we are in the part of the show that is called Cancel and Renew. If you guys are done talking about a show, I am thoroughly confused as to what actually happened.
Speaker 3We are done.
Speaker 2We're in cancel, renew. So that means we're going to go around the table and we're going to either vote to cancel or renew manual, and if we cancel it then we move on to a new show. We'll have to wheel out the big wheel here into the studio. Or if we vote to renew, we will watch Manimal Episode 2 and continue on in this year, you know in 2010,.
Speaker 3They tried to reboot this franchise. What they tried to reboot Manimal.
Speaker 2Yep, and do it as a movie, because I don't know.
Speaker 1Wow.
Speaker 2On what channel they were going to do a movie, a manual movie. Oh, that's so this is. Yeah, I did read that this is like a cult show, like people love this show, but it didn't even last a whole season. I mean, it was canceled, it was put on hiatus after its fourth episode aired they pulled it.
Speaker 2It's super confusing. Ok, so we're going to go around the table and vote in cancel and renew, and this time we're going to be starting with my fourth line of succession. Friend Chad Chad, what is your vote on cancel and renew?
Speaker 4It was Michael Jackson renew.
Speaker 2All right, we have one renew vote. Now we're going to go over to Tony. Tony, what is your vote on Manimal? Cancel or renew?
Speaker 3I got to see episode two, so renew.
Speaker 4God damn it. I fucking should have canceled. I wanted to do the opposite of Tony, to fucking tell him to each.
Speaker 2You guys are always at war. It was Michael.
Speaker 4Jackson, you motherfucker.
Speaker 2Why can't you just get along and fuck like him, Jason?
Speaker 4Didn't beat up come out that year. How would they have had a second version of beat it? It's just some dude covering.
Speaker 2Beat it right, Pay less money. Yeah, there's no way they could have gotten the rights to beat it with the budget.
Speaker 4They didn't get the rights back then they just did whatever they wanted. That's why a bunch of those shows like aren't released is because of the music rights that they don't get. That is true.
Speaker 2That's why they don't put them on DVD because they have got weird music copyright issues. Ok, over to Jason. Jason, now that you've had time with Manimal, what say you on your vote?
Speaker 3Cancel.
Speaker 2Oh, my god, all right, so over to Brian. Brian, now that you've thought about Manimal, what is your vote? Guys, I'm going to. I really struggled with my last 10 minutes and Can I just, can I just change my vote?
Speaker 4No, you can't? You already voted.
Speaker 2You can't change it, even if you go.
Speaker 1What if I spend the evening? If you storm the Capitol, you can't change your vote.
Speaker 2Wow, I got. I feel, like guys, that I got a taste of Manimal.
Speaker 3No, but I don't need any more of it because that's all you got.
Speaker 2But I don't feel like I got a full mouth load and you don't need it.
Speaker 4You need more rape. Is that what you need?
Speaker 1You're voting yes for rape.
Speaker 3Is that your voting yes for rape?
Speaker 1That's a word understanding.
Speaker 2So I think I'm going to make awkward boy great again. I think I'm going to Renew. Yes animal to episode two. We are going to find a stand alone.
Speaker 4You don't stand alone, I'm just in.
Speaker 3No, you fucking made your choice. You lying, you bet you.
Speaker 4I was trying to fuck off Tony.
Speaker 2You lying, you were trying to what.
Speaker 4Tony. Fuck off, tony. I don't know how to speak.
Speaker 3It's OK, well, guys it's Jaguar I really think that we take you again one more time.
Speaker 2Jaguar.
Speaker 4So, you're thinking of that.
Speaker 2You're thinking of Jabberwocky, jabberwocky.
Speaker 1What? Oh no, I know from Alice in Wonderland yeah, there are bears.
Speaker 2There are tigers, there are Mayans and they're Jaguar.
Speaker 3You're horrible.
Speaker 2Why are you? Don't be a dick.
Speaker 3You like such a dick You're such a visceral reaction. I love you, I love you I love you too.
Speaker 2I love all these awkward boys that are in front of me. All right well listener, thank you so much for listening. Please, please, please, please, please, review, share and like the show. It helps a ton. You can find us on Apple Podcasts, spotify, google Podcasts, iheartradio and anywhere where you enjoy podcasts. Don't forget you can call the show. Maybe we'll actually get a call from Kate at the most satanic and sensual of numbers.
Speaker 4She's not listening by now 469-666-7366.
Speaker 2You can text us there as well. Tell us what we're doing wrong. Inhale Satan. Our website awkwardboyshow, and our logo was created by Libby Creative. You can find more out at LibbyCreativecom. You can follow us on Twitter, although we don't post anything there at Awkward Podcast. Thank you so much too, dimitri Lifshits, for our music. You can find out more at soundrollcom and experience more Dimitri Lifshits, and I can't wait to experience more minimal with you, the intrepid listener, and my good friends. Very soon we're on to episode two and any last words. Everybody, it was Michael Jackson bitch. Nobody fucking cares.
Speaker 4Happy 40th episode.
Speaker 2Yeah, happy 40th, the most important day in human history. Number 40. Jason, fuck you. Fuck you Say what Fuck you Bye.
Speaker 3Stay dry, awkwardboy fan, don't forget to tell your friends about us.
Speaker 4Wait, people actually listen to this.