The Aquaboy Podcast
Aquaboy is a podcast where we explore the annals of television history finding shows, that try as they might, only made it a single season. Did they deserve cancellation or a second chance? We’ll decide.
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Episode 1.40 'Manimal' Part 1
Manimal might be the most famous (or infamous) of the shows the Aquaboys have watched so far. Its celebrity status as terrible TV seems built on a couple giant ideas that were executed hilariously bad. Maybe the producers thought the killer effects would carry the show? Did bubble forehead, felt cat paw, and tamed cobras impress the Aquaboys enough to renew this legendary train wreck? Listen and find out for yourself.
Manimal is an American superhero television series created by Glen A. Larson and Donald R. Boyle, it ran on NBC from September 30 to December 17, 1983. The show centers on the character Jonathan Chase (Simon MacCorkindale), a shape-shifting man who can turn himself into any animal he chooses. He uses this ability to help the police solve crimes.
The series ended after a brief eight episode run, but has since become a minor cult classic.
The following program is rated TV MA LSV and contains strong language sexual situations, violence and nudity.
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Speaker 3:Previously on the Aquaboy podcast.
Speaker 2:Big paint is a big, big paint. How big of an industry is that.
Speaker 3:And so we brought this up today because I'm taking a stand and I don't care who hears it, but big paint needs to go down.
Speaker 4:I think we need to cut this. We really need to cut this, because I'm you guys don't know what big paint can do.
Speaker 2:I'll bleep big paint. How about that Just so?
Speaker 1:we're safe yeah just big.
Speaker 3:Do you know how much global paint companies, how much money they made in two from two thousand twenty two? Wait are we are we back on the trivia show? Seven thousand billion.
Speaker 2:How many billions? How many billions?
Speaker 3:How much it was sold in paint globally All right, I'm going to guess first.
Speaker 2:We do prices. Right, we do prices.
Speaker 3:Brian, you said prices Right.
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 3:Jesus.
Speaker 2:I'm really sorry.
Speaker 1:No, go backwards, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:And we're back. What you for, he's Jason.
Speaker 2:OK, so my bid, without going over my closest to the retail price, without going over, and you said it has to be billions, it's in billions Nine hundred and ninety nine billion dollars.
Speaker 3:That's ridiculous, it's stupid. Ok, without going over, let's see it was a little high.
Speaker 4:I wait maybe.
Speaker 3:I'm just. Why are?
Speaker 1:you Definitely why.
Speaker 3:Jason, Jason, one billion dollars.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 1:That's really low. I'm going to go so.
Speaker 3:Brian's at almost a trillion.
Speaker 4:I'm going to go one billion and one dollar.
Speaker 3:Damn it, he got us again.
Speaker 4:It did not work. I watched this show.
Speaker 3:I know how it works, but it can't go over right.
Speaker 4:Surprise Could we have created?
Speaker 3:a wider birth.
Speaker 1:Between one and infinity. For him to win.
Speaker 3:Chad won. The answer is two hundred and thirty point twenty two billion. He was only two hundred and twenty nine billion, with the other overshot a little.
Speaker 2:Ah, yes, you, my friend. I found the Aquaboy podcast. Thank you, intrepid Listener, for discovering our little show. I really appreciate the time you put in suffering through yet another episode of this, of this, the podcast of podcast, as it's known amongst her podcast professionals. Sure, my name is Brian Miller and the Aquaboy podcast is the podcast where we watch shows from the 80s and 90s that, for whatever reason, only lasted one season and we try to determine if those powerful television executives were absolutely right or totally wrong. So once again, thank you, intrepid Listener, for finding our show. We've got a super amazing show to talk about tonight. But I'd be remiss if I didn't introduce my co-host for the show. The co-host, the perpetual third wheel, mr Athletic Build Little. Are you done breathing or, okay, I was taking and cleansing breath, sorry, okay. The perpetual third wheel, mr Athletic Build little half pound. And the show apologist, my best friend, tony. Tony, let me be the first to welcome you to the show. Was that?
Speaker 1:I thought that would be a lot enough to do Now we don't have any hearing.
Speaker 2:Thank you for the show Also offering color commentary throughout part-time. Amateur costume mascot the Unrushed Yornator, foot Fetish Explorer, my Doe, my Ray and my smartest aqua boy. The smartest aqua boy at the table, jason. Jason, I want to be the second to welcome you to the show. How are you, my friend?
Speaker 3:Welcome to the show. Is Taylor the smartest aqua boy not at the table? Yeah, who is the smartest one not at the table?
Speaker 2:You know what? It's either got to be Taylor or Corbett a friend Corbett.
Speaker 3:Or my wife, maybe because she's way smarter than me.
Speaker 4:I'm not threatened at all by Corbett.
Speaker 3:Taylor, the fact that you said that I'm gonna murder, the fact that you said that definitely sells it.
Speaker 4:I'm not, no, you tried to murder him with your car.
Speaker 2:Who is this? Oh my gosh, who is this? Who is this? I think I hear our junior production specialist, executive class, my fourth line of succession friend, child projie, speed skater, installment plan, virgin orgasm truther and the most subtly attractive participant prize friend on the show, chad, welcome, I'm gonna be the first to welcome you to the show.
Speaker 4:Thank you and Jason. I will be the first to welcome you to the show.
Speaker 3:And I want to welcome me as well for you, welcoming you, but I that is not true, because I was the first and the second to welcome him to the show.
Speaker 4:I think that you were the second but we're overlooking important parts.
Speaker 2:Let history prove that.
Speaker 3:Nobody acknowledged Tony. No, that's fine. Well, I already did, but you guys haven't.
Speaker 2:So that pretty much sets a precedent for the remainder of the shows.
Speaker 3:What I have, no idea what you're talking about and speaking of shows, guys, when you were, breathing.
Speaker 4:Were you referencing the show that we're going to talk about today? Was that like a show, a nod to the show, or was that just you?
Speaker 3:being you. Well, it was a little bit of both, because I wrote down in my notes like that breathing sounds like Tony masturbating. Oh, wow, you mean.
Speaker 2:Well, what's the show you're talking about?
Speaker 3:It's also weird that every time Tony masturbates, somebody plays the drums behind.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen music. Well, he hires me to do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was going to say.
Speaker 2:yeah, I was a guy, I'm not bad on the bongo and the Jamaican barrel drum.
Speaker 3:It just gets really cozy in my little toilet room. But traditional drums you're really bad at. It's weird if you just can't Now trap set. Trap set I'm not good at. Why is that? It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2:Well, it's part of my heritage.
Speaker 4:I don't okay, it's how you know he's rich just because he hires all of us to be there whenever he jerks off.
Speaker 2:That's how you know he's rich, I've never seen you there.
Speaker 4:Where are you hiding? Oh well, I'm behind the toilet. How do you?
Speaker 3:squeeze. Well it's because he doesn't know if Tony's going to shame masturbate or not. So if he does, then Chad there.
Speaker 4:Tony, isn't all masturbation? The shame masturbate.
Speaker 2:What masturbation is not shame? Tell me of this thing. So in the shower with the water running, not shame. But on the toilet right after you took a dump, Is that shame?
Speaker 3:Like front porch, not shame?
Speaker 2:You know, because, like you're, you're right. He has no shame. That is no, no, no. If you did that you're doing that.
Speaker 3:If you're doing that, then it's a, it's no shame.
Speaker 2:So front porch masturbating? No shame. Correct On the toilet after a dump.
Speaker 4:lots of shame, Lots of shame. You should feel during a dump. More shame.
Speaker 2:I've never tried that. How's that?
Speaker 3:It's hard to time Because you dumped in like 30 seconds.
Speaker 2:What's that Two gone?
Speaker 4:I'm a super fast, pooper, your, your asshole is so huge that he just all like honks right out.
Speaker 2:It's not a famous person. Special correspondent Lane coined the phrase it's not shitting if you don't have to work at it.
Speaker 1:So when you just sit down and it falls out you guys don't have that problem.
Speaker 2:It just fall. You have to push, Don't bear down.
Speaker 4:I don't bear down.
Speaker 2:My friend Chad taught me that Don't ever bear down.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you should not do that. That's how you get you know the thingies Hemorrhoids, hemorrhoids, yeah, and I think like uh fissures.
Speaker 3:Have you ever had a hemorrhoid and I?
Speaker 4:think. I think also like uh, what happens when it comes out like a prolapsed anus? Okay, you have to really bear down for that to happen.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it happens, though. Have you guys ever had a hemorrhoid, do you know? Uh, yeah, I think I've had a little one before.
Speaker 3:I mean, is this a safe space?
Speaker 2:Yeah, nobody's safe, yeah, nobody listens.
Speaker 3:Definitely no.
Speaker 4:I heard today that shame is a useless emotion and I thought to myself I feel like for the podcast it's a very useful emotion.
Speaker 2:We just defined it right now it's clearly driving in the listeners.
Speaker 4:Well, you know, all it has creatives. We just have to keep making stuff and then eventually it'll work out.
Speaker 3:Yeah, with no marketing at all.
Speaker 2:The moment that the moment that the last Aquaboy dies, then somehow we'll get discovered, that's right, we'll be like Van Gogh We'll be retarded Van. Gogh.
Speaker 3:Oh, I do not think you can say Van Gogh oh my gosh.
Speaker 4:What did you say I?
Speaker 3:said your hair looks nice.
Speaker 4:Oh, you did say that, speaking of Aquaboys dying, I had this weird, this weird thing happen to me today, where what I'm going to do the I'm going to do the fun part second, I'm going to do the sad part first, you motherfucker, and I'm going to do the fun part second.
Speaker 2:So just before the just before the show started, we had a discussion about if somebody likes to be a bad news first or a good news first guy. And I think, chad, you voted bad news first.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, jason, jason is Jason is bad news first. Okay, I'm bad news. Second, because it's unlikely that I will be able to hear the good news as easily after I've heard the bad news.
Speaker 2:Well then go ahead and give us a bad news.
Speaker 4:So well, we were talking about the, you know, the last Aquaboy dying. So a friend of mine. I found out a friend of mine died this week and we love you, chad. So I found out, a friend of mine died this week, but I found out that he died in February.
Speaker 2:Oh, so he's obviously very close.
Speaker 4:In no like like close. Like like he lived on my street growing up, like I used to spend that in his house. I would see him non-stop. No, really close, like I've known him my whole life.
Speaker 2:But you've been out of touch recently.
Speaker 4:Especially since he died. Yeah, I think the last time I think.
Speaker 1:I think the last time I saw him was about a year ago.
Speaker 4:About a year ago was the last time I saw him, but he's somebody that everybody knows and I don't know why I'm not hearing from him. Oh God, so, so, this motherfucker, this motherfucker I find out, a buddy of mine is just like hey. Did you hear that he died?
Speaker 1:And I was like what? And he's like yeah, he died.
Speaker 2:So we insinuating that we will die and the other people won't know? No, I'm insinuating If you don't show up for the show.
Speaker 4:No, I am insinuating that, that you guys Jason's not hearing it. Guys, you guys are into the joke. So he died. And then he made his brother promise to not tell anybody.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 4:He made his brother promise to not tell anybody that he died. So all of us I'm talking about like the entire theater community has known this guy forever and he's very well respected and we all literally found out the same day that he died, but all found out that he died in February. So like, literally all of us are having this grieving process, even though he died in February. And I just thought, yeah, he's playing the long game.
Speaker 2:That seems like something the Aquaboys would do, but yeah, that seems process that. So how? How did you?
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, we laughed all the way through your grief just now, no, no, no.
Speaker 4:I knew it was a safe space.
Speaker 1:I knew it was a safe space, so we could have made fun of that.
Speaker 2:So how did he? Know, he was going to die.
Speaker 4:Oh, yeah, yeah he knew he was going to die.
Speaker 2:So he was terminal, he had a real mess.
Speaker 4:So evidently he well, he smoked like a chimney forever, like he had lung cancer that came on really fast and was just like like it was basically the end and there you go, oh man and that's all fine, and that felt like I don't know. But like he was. He was one of these guys who like his nickname when I was when I was a kid growing up, because he's older than me His nickname was Ogre.
Speaker 4:Like because he was a really like scary dude, but for me I always just knew he was so scary because he was always mad that he was the smartest person in the room. So he was always mad at everybody.
Speaker 2:But was he the guy that isn't but thinks he is?
Speaker 4:Oh no, he was he was the smartest person in the room and this is getting a little dark. I was trying to tell a really funny story.
Speaker 3:I think Chad liked it better when there was left Jesus.
Speaker 4:Christ, I'm really uncomfortable right now. And you love that, yeah, so so he was really. He was really kind of a crazy person, but eventually he had a stroke one time and then after that he was really nice. He was always really smart. He got nicer after a stroke he got nicer after a stroke, and then that can fellow out of fellow. I think after his third divorce. Then he got mad again and then and COVID didn't do anybody in the favor.
Speaker 2:This is the best eulogy I've ever had, and he put a load of us here and he his mom on the front rows looking at, looking at Chad that during the eulogy like hey, quit it hey seriously you probably don't have a personal shit.
Speaker 4:No, I literally had. This time is up.
Speaker 3:She's got a times up sign. There's neon and 30 seconds.
Speaker 1:I feel like times up is wrong.
Speaker 3:She goes like this Times up is the wrong sign. You're right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so I just, I just thought my funeral. Can we please have a times up sign?
Speaker 2:No, our funerals are going to go on and on, because what are we doing at our funeral?
Speaker 4:We're reading our text chain, but guess how many listeners will have at our funeral.
Speaker 3:That's fair.
Speaker 2:I'm going to demand in my funeral that it takes place at like the convention center, because I had a time when there is a convention happening like no matter what show they have to wait five months to have a funeral for you, but they will do it.
Speaker 3:Well, because he doesn't tell us, because he doesn't want us to read the text chain.
Speaker 4:So he's like promise, you won't tell the aqua boys I died. But then eventually, when we find out he died, then we're like oh, now we're going to have the funeral and we're going to read the text chain, except it's just the three of us who show up.
Speaker 2:You know how you'll find out that I died is because I'll finally not be instantly ready to host a show.
Speaker 3:Also, I love to imagine the idea that there's one of us that has died and the three other ones of us are like in a room somewhere talking and going God, sad, sad, sad, yeah, super sad, super sad. Okay, but for real, though, are we really going? To do this, like I know, brian said it, but like for real who's gonna read?
Speaker 4:you know, a Chad had mental problems, right? You know, you know, you know he said that over and over again. He didn't really want us to do it right.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure I can do that whole thing. Chad does not like to read.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure I can say I'm not sure I can say something as good as I said before Will you cold read Brian's eulogy oh my God, I started to feel way better about my chat.
Speaker 4:I'll write it.
Speaker 2:I'll write my eulogy, if you cold.
Speaker 4:read it? Of course you will. You'll fake your own death and write your eulogy to get me to read it.
Speaker 3:I mean, our text messages are far worse than this podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, how is that possible? But you're very correct. Crazy shit there.
Speaker 3:And all of the really racist stuff that you always share with us, brian you know, you're just so much more open there, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just have.
Speaker 3:It's a forum where he can be open.
Speaker 4:I have more of a problem we're really proud of you, Brian.
Speaker 3:You're a proud boy.
Speaker 4:You're a proud boy. I feel like Tony's child porn is the thing that really bothers me that I feel like having to describe that.
Speaker 3:You should not be sharing that in attention. He's not less than 1% there. Tony is a pedophile, that's right.
Speaker 4:Thank you. Tony is a pedophile. There we go. Thank you.
Speaker 1:Well, believe it or not guys.
Speaker 2:Believe it or not guys, we haven't even talked about the show that we're talking about.
Speaker 4:Is that right what?
Speaker 2:show, but there is some controversy about the show.
Speaker 4:Controversy or controversy Whatever you want to say, I mean, I have a lot of controversy about the show and I feel like we should have really done that live on air, because the listener needs to judge.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which part Live on air?
Speaker 4:The part where you guys cheated and we were supposed to go back and watch our last show, and then you're like, no, we have to do it again. And then it said again go back and watch your last show.
Speaker 3:No, that's not what happened. No, we have to do it again. Brian did Brian's choice first and I didn't think that that was right, so we have to listen.
Speaker 2:Let me get the listener up to date and then you can tell your story.
Speaker 3:Don't cut me off.
Speaker 2:Collusion there's collusion Is that we, the end of last show we picked Gung Ho or the wheel picked Gung Ho for us correct. Yes, gung Ho is not on the internet. Damn I have looked, except for the movie. I went everywhere. I have looked.
Speaker 4:It is really starting to bother me.
Speaker 2:I have been downloaded a file sharing system yeah like a whole. And it wasn't out there at all. The movie is everywhere you can buy the movie but the show, except for that trailer that I sent the group text Right. So Gung Ho off the table.
Speaker 4:So if any of our millions of listeners have access to Gung Ho, yeah, the internet needs it. Please text us at aquaboyshow or aquaboytwittershow, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2:You can call the show, but nobody ever does.
Speaker 4:Nobody ever does you know what, you know what. Jason's wife continues to tell me. She has a lot of thoughts and she wants this call this morning.
Speaker 3:She wants a call In our bedtime time she rolled over.
Speaker 4:Excuse me, wait back up, back up it was mid.
Speaker 2:It was time. It was time, mid. Let's just say mid. What were you wearing?
Speaker 4:Mid, just you would be walking your way, tell us more about what time was it. Was it bedtime, time I was wearing? Full on pajamas like straight up like long underwear button to the top and with a little hole, but the little caboose in the back that you could unbutton.
Speaker 2:And that's part of the zone. Please tell me there were booties.
Speaker 3:Oh, there are booties, so many booties.
Speaker 4:They're called footies, booties.
Speaker 3:Don't fuck my footies, but anyway, she talked this morning about making that phone call and guess what she didn't do? She made the bubble, so she was going to call the show she talked about it all the time she's always saying I'm going to call the show even though she doesn't.
Speaker 3:Well, you guys probably got, like in the middle of last week, the text message from our Google and we were responding yes, Do you realize that we all said, we all responded, we were like, yeah, we get it, but I have to do that every month because they're threatening to shut us down, anyway.
Speaker 2:so so there was controversy, because, jason, back to your story.
Speaker 3:What was my story?
Speaker 4:Well, you were telling us about bedtime time.
Speaker 2:No. Gung Ho was nowhere to be found, so Gung Ho was nowhere to be found.
Speaker 3:So, Brian rolled again and he did this very official rolling of the of the die.
Speaker 2:Much to my wife's chagrin.
Speaker 3:spinning of the wheel, much to your wife's chagrin.
Speaker 4:Was that on FaceTime? What was that? He just took a video. Oh yeah, he took a video of himself. Your wife was your witness, and she did not want to be here.
Speaker 1:Well, here's what I'll say.
Speaker 3:There has never been a more impartial witness because she hated Brian in that moment. She's a very loving person and loves Brian, but in that moment didn't love.
Speaker 2:She could have given two shits. So he was, he was me, not this show.
Speaker 3:Let me be very clear on that wheel and it was Brian's choice that came up, which Brian understandably, having totally rigged the system because I'm fair. Understood partial that we would think he for sure rigged the system as he did. Yes.
Speaker 4:I don't even remember that part. Ask him to ring it to do it again.
Speaker 3:He spun it again and this time it was stick, with the same show, which of course we were not going to know, that's what the thing told us to do. No, the thing told us to do Brian's choice.
Speaker 2:If I knew that that came up to stick with the show, Jason would have come over and set fire to my house. And then, and then I would have quit the show, and not even for insurance reasons like he did Tony. So it would have been just hate. I hate burn.
Speaker 3:I would have come over to the house while y'all recorded and heckled you guys, while y'all were recording.
Speaker 4:But did you not think about how many more times we would be able to record what? No, I fucking hate you guys. Why would that increase the potential for?
Speaker 2:us for just his schedule no.
Speaker 4:I'm always saying that if there were only three of us, it doesn't matter which one we get rid of. If we get rid of Tony, we could do it a lot too. Tony's out of the country like half the year.
Speaker 2:It's my fault, so we're not there's been a slight payroll malfunction and Tony is getting all the money. So we're I'm going to go and look at that A Sheffield and I are having a meeting.
Speaker 3:Tony has a kid in college and somehow has more money. I don't understand how that factors in. Like usually you hear from people and they're like, yeah, I got a kid in college, I'm just keeping it tight right now Staycation this year, tony's like actually we're doing three trips to.
Speaker 2:Europe. In fact, we're going to go to Europe, turn around and come home and cancel that trip and then go back.
Speaker 3:My wife has to work from Europe because we don't have enough time on vacation, but we're still going to take the time.
Speaker 4:I'm watching a video right now.
Speaker 2:What are you?
Speaker 4:watching. No, no, no, it did not say Brian's choice. First, the very first one said give the current show another shot.
Speaker 1:No, it did. Yes, you are, I am watching the video.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, this is collusion no, that's a website.
Speaker 3:That's a website. No, no, no, no. You know what we'll do. We'll do?
Speaker 2:We'll take this video and post it to our Twitter account. Here we go, here we go. Are we listening? We're listening to a quick Twitter account.
Speaker 4:That's right. Come on, Give current show another try.
Speaker 2:That's the first roll right there and he's like Nope, I just didn't, I just didn't want to believe it, oh my.
Speaker 4:God. So he's like oh, I'll do it again, I'll do it again, this will be fine. And at that point I'm yelling at my screen like how dare you? Here we go, here we go. What does it say?
Speaker 3:All right, so so, Chad, I'm going to throw something away. All right, we voted in the last show right and we canceled the last show, correct.
Speaker 2:We canceled, okay, correct.
Speaker 1:We did.
Speaker 3:We canceled it, and so the next show that was spun on the wheel that we you and I actually hold it in here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, brought it in together, you and Tony, you and Tony. I was rubbing his feet.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's well and I needed so we brought that in here, we spun it, and what show came up gung, ho, gung ho, gung ho came up. That is now the show. So when when Brian ran the the wheel again, it was for gung ho access gung ho. This is why you're the smartest twice that you have completely completely we couldn't do it, we couldn't satisfy the wheel blessed or the?
Speaker 4:where were you during the presidential election?
Speaker 3:you could have explained I could have made sure trouble understood. Yes, I don't think you could have made sure Trump his followers would have absolutely not listened to me, but I would have tried well, they all listen to us, so let's let's just keep it we bring in the white supremacist I don't think we is the right word.
Speaker 2:You know that's not fair well, you're proud of your boys they're family, they're family, we get it very proud, very proud. So the show that we ended up landing on was now was it Tony's choice, or was it Manimal?
Speaker 3:straight-up, animal straight-up, manimal straight-up.
Speaker 2:We just like 12 minutes on on how we got so if you go to our Twitter account, eventually you'll see that I'm going to post the trailer to gung ho, but that is absolutely the only thing I could find like people. Yes sometimes, sometimes our shows are so obscure people will post their VHS tapes of when they recorded the show back in the 80s and 90s with the commercials, everything I could even find.
Speaker 4:I can find I did. You know how my brain is. Sometimes I get annoyed with things. When I can't, I'm like, no, this is should be, real, this should be real. And I get stuck, and I got stuck several times on this concept, mainly because of the collusion that I didn't understand. But now that I understand I never show spent that time and I thought I'm gonna find gung ho not out there mother fucker.
Speaker 4:So now as the time listeners. We know you're out there, we know that, that the metrics that come back to us just say there's only two of you.
Speaker 1:But I am willing to bet there are more than we think.
Speaker 2:So if you guys could go find it for us, there could be a little taste in it for you, especially you overseas listeners, all one of you like I bet you, I bet you that was on some sort of weird like cable channel in the Middle East that's a great ad nauseam for a long time.
Speaker 3:I don't even care if it's dubbed, I just like Tony with a satellite dish.
Speaker 2:Yes, true, true so what we settled upon was Tony's show from basically day one that he wanted to watch what was called Manimal so we watched Manimal, episode one which aired originally September 30th 1983. Manimal is the American superhero television series created by Glenn Larson, who is the brains behind Battlestar Galactica. I mean, you name it, auto man yes and it ran on NBC for a very short run, september 30th through December 17 1983, before it was canceled. Before his first season even finished, finished on the the show centers on the character.
Speaker 4:I was gonna say Demetri Lischitz.
Speaker 2:I was like I don't feel like now's the time I'm supposed to say that who, now that I read this I'm kind of clued in a little bit more to the plot of the show a shape-shifting man who can turn himself into any animal he chooses and he uses this ability to help fight crime. So I didn't realize it was any animal, because I'm the guy who got the last 10 minutes.
Speaker 2:So the this was the season premiere, which back in the day usually meant that it went longer than normal. So this episode was one hour and 10 minutes of pain. So what I did is just went back to the one-minute marker so I watched the last 10 minutes. So I'll be excusing myself momentarily so that you guys can to discuss the show. So I'm gonna make, I'm gonna make Jason the captain. Now you can lead that discussion when when we're ready to to move. Are you jealous?
Speaker 4:no, no, okay, speaking of those longer episodes, I did write down. After the basement scene, which you didn't see, I said holy shit, it's the end of the basement scene and there's still 20 fucking minutes left the basement scene.
Speaker 2:That's intriguing. Yeah, the basement scene was wrapping up.
Speaker 4:It felt like it was and now we've wrapped up the show and I look up and I know what the fuck one other thing I want to point out real quick.
Speaker 3:Nothing to do with minimal, but this is a milestone show for us. Tell me more. This is our 40th episode boom.
Speaker 4:We only celebrate 43. I think 43, you know, is more all in our 40s 40.
Speaker 3:I don't know what Jason is. 40 doesn't fucking matter.
Speaker 2:43 we'll just fuck that shit. Yeah, no, I mean, episode 40 is a super important milestone for everybody very, very important for everybody except Jason. I mean, so let's celebrate.
Speaker 4:I think we should. What in celebration I didn't get to tell you my happy thing. Do you want to do that? Well, what I thought we would do, before we start talking about the show.
Speaker 2:Are there any random thoughts that around the number 40, that is the most important number we could possibly think of? What about 40?
Speaker 4:just go on, it's fine, I mean, I did have a I brought. I brought a piece of paper with me. Oh my god, that is. Did you do pre-production for the show? I just started coughing, I just got nervous, oh my god he's so nervous so I had your hands shaking so
Speaker 4:much so I had. So I had this. I had this moment where I feel like maybe you don't quite understand how interesting and intelligent some young people are. So I I mean, I know, tony knows, but but I had a friend who texted me something that I just thought you guys could really help explain.
Speaker 1:They were walking totally lost. So I got this. I'm nervous.
Speaker 4:I got this text message that was a picture, and it was just a picture, and it was a.
Speaker 4:It was a picture of a notebook and and I made a copy of this picture that I just thought I could hand out to you to each of you and evidently I was not told who, I was not told whose notebook this was, but what I was told is that this was the notebook of one of the humans that I was teaching, and I will say that those humans are of the same age as our children so it says.
Speaker 2:At the top of the top of the pages says Chad Russell Jung has thrown off my my has thrown off my gaydar. So so what are we're looking at?
Speaker 4:here is three columns, and the headers of each column are straight, gay and unsure so one of my students evidently made this list just about me and then somehow, I don't know how this, this co-worker of mine, I guess maybe they were like taking a picture over their shoulder or something, but they they wouldn't tell me who it was, but they were like I just have to send you this because it's everything all right, so help me understand.
Speaker 4:So we're looking at three separate columns, one labeled straight, gay and unsure and these are the category, these are the traits of each one of those that, whatever student this was, seems to have observed about me that make me I don't think it's that complicated using Lee gay, straight or unsure so this is somebody who meets you for the first time and is on no, they're one of no. They know they hung out with.
Speaker 3:He's saying this is like two weeks straight, or this person, who's male or female, we don't know or they then, but like they are, they are just experiencing Chad and saying we're not positive because his gay are my gaydar is gone crazy right yes and giving reasons and like a pro con kind of yes, it was very much like this is, except that in the column is them working?
Speaker 2:out. They're trying to figure out.
Speaker 3:They have a name chart straight, gay or unsure this is their personal.
Speaker 2:These are columns.
Speaker 3:If Chad is is one of those things. Reasons, reasons why Chad is straight. So let me tell you about gay darr kids.
Speaker 4:So gaydar I have no darr about anything, but gaydar would be. If you're typically, if you have good gaydar, then you would be able to tell if somebody was gay now was that like the little sparkle I feel inside when I see Tony no, no, I feel like that's racism. I feel like this race oh gosh, okay, that's strange okay, but but the gaydar would be your radar for for gayness and so good.
Speaker 3:I have to say to you real quick I am in love with this list.
Speaker 2:First of all, this is, and I also fan past.
Speaker 3:I cannot champion you for then sharing it with yeah, this is about to be my, my, like, my my screen photo for my.
Speaker 4:I wish I could frame it and like put it up behind me while I'm teaching, but I don't think that would be appropriate. The actual page out of the journal no, it's, this is literally a photo, because, because my friend didn't even tell the person like the human literally didn't even know that they is the person female or male, or they don't? Know, so I don't know okay, I will say that the the.
Speaker 4:I was told that it was definitely one of my students and so this the main students I was working with I would say we're born with female genitalia, but don't necessarily nobody, nobody, nobody identifies that way right now.
Speaker 2:Okay. So the headline, though, is that this person female, male, whatever that Chad Jung has thrown off- their gaydar, so they're they're writing this, saying they're unsure. I met Chad, yes, and I thought that I had finally tuned my gaydar, but I met you and I've thrown it off.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, I not fucked it off, but and these this would be, I would say they're between the audience lip between the ages of 11 and 15.
Speaker 3:So that, hold on, let's just cover FCC version.
Speaker 2:This is a 16 year old let's cover, let's cover straight the category okay, okay.
Speaker 3:This person has written down items in the straight category yeah like an excel spreadsheet.
Speaker 2:So these are the arguments that this person had in his head about why their head about being straight.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, I might be straight could Chad possibly be straight?
Speaker 2:yes, so.
Speaker 3:Chad has wife and kids. That was the first one that's right, all right, but there are plenty of plenty of gay dudes. But then but then Chad also talks about his wife that's right.
Speaker 2:That's right. I feel like plenty of you know she's best friend all the way, we all agree.
Speaker 3:Chad's clothing style. I love that. Chad has been called out by someone in that comment presumably makes me feel like the person is gay. But I can't say that, but I'm just saying that that that makes me feel like a person that is saying to you like because they're definitely straight, because I'm gay, and that kind of clothing is straight, like they're basically saying a gay person would never be caught dead correct Chad, yes, yes, which 99% of the time and you guys got to get my back here is a t-shirt and a hoodie and jeans.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's pretty much my dad's sneakers if I'm, if I'm usually, if I'm teaching. It's a t-shirt, but I usually have a button up on top of it with sleeves rolled up oh, like you're like full button up, sure, yeah but untucked button up, sleeves rolled up, that's like dressing up.
Speaker 2:It's usually what I'm if I'm teaching what you were to the office, okay, untucked with jeans and yeah, he always wears a fedora.
Speaker 3:Tony, tony, do you want to read the gay? Section and high heels yes this is a person's assertion that Chad might be that, yes, things and I need to handle this carefully.
Speaker 2:To Tony handle it carefully oh yeah, definitely I'm very delicate, okay, okay well, I have.
Speaker 3:I don't really agree with all of these things, but the number one in the gay column is fluid movements uh-huh.
Speaker 2:Now what does that mean?
Speaker 3:like squishy the way he moves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I move I don't think you're squishy, or?
Speaker 3:fluid. No, I don't think you're thinking wrong yeah. I feel like.
Speaker 4:Jason knows you are not correct when I think you just got your movement correct.
Speaker 3:Chad is like when he's presenting, or talking, or presenting in front of, yes, in front of his class, and people like he's got kind of a fluid, need to hit a little fluid. I could. I could see that but also chat.
Speaker 2:I just want you to let you know that whatever normal is and we're not defining that here because that's not and we know it's not me, that's not, and there's columns to prove it on this list that when I look at your movements and I don't know what this is about me but when I see your movements, I think they're just movements.
Speaker 4:I don't think they're fluid but you don't think that they're manly movements. You don't think that they're like what's a man?
Speaker 2:I don't think you're like you're not curling like 40 pound dumbbells when I talk to you it's like you're just moving right.
Speaker 4:I'm cleaning this carburetor. I think, thanks for just seeing my movements, for being mine thanks you.
Speaker 3:My dough is moving to me next one we have is the way he stands. How does one stand straight or gay, but I think it's probably part of the way he also you always have one of your toes at point. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2:That is true, that you have a shoe, you have a toe at point all the time.
Speaker 4:I'll. I'm pointing a toe at this moment and you don't even realize it if you look at my foot off the ground right now pointed down. I am pointing crossing his legs with, like you know, and I know what I mean the third one is definitely true facial expressions or over expressive, which I didn't know, that was a gay thing and I literally just saw my wrist and my hand move and I went.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe, maybe I don't see any gay motion or like this right well done. Every time, he, every time you move your foot into a toe point, you do this all right. Next they may get off. That may set off some signs the way he talks.
Speaker 3:I don't think you talk like you're gay.
Speaker 4:I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3:I mean, you probably say things about a penis more than any person I know not with students.
Speaker 4:Not with students, though that I hope not, no, I tell you that you know?
Speaker 2:do you guys remember number one fan Barry? Like super fan, oh yeah so when Barry was writing the earlier he's a dear friend of mine and he was giving us pointers on our early shows based solely on your voice yes never seen a picture or anything. Yes, he did ask. Is Chad?
Speaker 1:Chad, chad.
Speaker 2:Chad is a circle is Chad.
Speaker 4:Is Chad the gay one?
Speaker 2:yes, he did, and I said he's got a wife and kids. He is himself. Chad is Chad. That's how his wife, kids.
Speaker 3:He talks about his wife and his clothing style seemed like he's straight that's what he's.
Speaker 2:That's exactly where he said no, that's what I said back to her.
Speaker 3:Yeah but I will say next on the list is hand movements. You do, you do, talk with your hands quite a bit.
Speaker 2:I yeah- Is that gay?
Speaker 3:His hand moves are a little swishy.
Speaker 1:I know, I don't know, I think so, which is?
Speaker 3:all but see all everything in the gay column for me feels like this is evidence this person is like, either has like very close Opinions about someone they know that is like, or people they know that are gay, that they Specifically act a certain way so they're they're balanced or they're biased by that or maybe or they themselves are gay, and then they also do that and there's a that's a similarity his hand has their own like when he's stroking my penis. It's very gay.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, his hand movements in with penis in hand are gay.
Speaker 4:Well, you know, I'm a slow reader and so it took me a little while to read this. And I remember saying to my friend, right after they texted it to me because they were, they were in the same room with me is? I just leaned over and I said, oh my god, thank God. When I was reading the gay column, I was really worried. At the bottom they were gonna talk about making out with that dude on the roof in New York, but they didn't. They didn't say anything about that.
Speaker 3:No, and I was, like you know. In fact, the last one was Tony.
Speaker 4:Yes sense of humor, yeah which I also know you can have a gay sense of humor. Yeah, I don't. I mean I all you can think of is that I'm not. I don't feel like I'm shy around Men, I guess, like you certainly are shy like you know. I think, yeah, I'm not like, like you know, I'm you know, gay sense of humor is weird, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know you drop a lot of like just straight-up, shocking gay humor. Well, that feels like it's a very personal.
Speaker 3:That again feels like a personal thing, where they're like I'm gay and I feel like I'm more crass or I'm more sarcastic or I'm yeah, maybe I don't know pointed and chat similar to me, so that's a gay sense of humor.
Speaker 2:Well then there's the third column, yes, which goes which goes to a much sure much, much very. Should I? Should I professionally?
Speaker 4:yes, yes, yes because this is the column that is, I guess, either side.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 4:Do me a favor. Just leave the the the last one. Just change. Just change the initials in some way for me okay, I just I just glance down and I went oh yeah, that's probably a little little much.
Speaker 2:So so the first one is ADHD. Now, is this talking about what they think Chad is or about themselves? Okay so, adhd, autism, theater geek.
Speaker 3:Yes, I see that at all. I think they're said do the two separate things.
Speaker 4:But yeah, but you also don't see color. There's all kinds of things you don't see, brian, I know okay, so my ADHD is off the charts Now.
Speaker 2:I have noticed that trait about you occasionally.
Speaker 4:Yes, but have you noticed how I don't understand jokes? Have you noticed that that that's just some extent?
Speaker 2:but I don't think that falls into the spectrum, I mean in terms of like things that you do for executive producer related to the show, that shit gets done Yesterday like it gets done right away.
Speaker 1:So your attention is hyper focused on that.
Speaker 2:So maybe that is sort of backing into that ADHD trait where we're gonna.
Speaker 4:Well, we won't. We're gonna educate you, we're gonna. Confuses me.
Speaker 2:So on this disobeyed a hyper fixation on the teeth in theater tech, tech, tech.
Speaker 4:I also thought it said teeth at first.
Speaker 3:Brian, Come on buddy but that says tech in theater.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, it does say tech, so tech in theater. So why would that?
Speaker 4:be, I don't know. I guess the. I guess they're trying to say that that. Is that a gay? I guess because it's in theaters that gay, but then it's tech, so it's not. I don't really know. Are you're just like super specific?
Speaker 3:because you do like you go out yeah you get gone out on like the lights and what. I can do, and what a gobo can do, or whatever things and you like. Get really clear about that, which is super cool, which is why you do things that's what you do at your
Speaker 2:passion.
Speaker 3:Well, and he does things that are frankly fantastic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's an artist in that respect.
Speaker 4:Yes, so, but I feel like he's an artist in a lot of respects, but like that is that's much more an ADHD Spectrum thing then, to me than an unsure about my sexuality. But I don't, I don't know, I just think it's super interesting.
Speaker 2:I just I don't know. And the last one is funny of no, it's funny AF. Oh, yes, we're funny, sorry, sorry.
Speaker 4:That's. The kids say AF because that means.
Speaker 3:I also agree with that. I second Chad being funny.
Speaker 2:AF. I would say that he's the fourth funniest person I've ever met at this table.
Speaker 4:That's that is, that is better than fit.
Speaker 2:Honestly say that Chad is one of the funniest people I know and and from the moment that I met you like he got the joke, I'm like our very first meeting was at some sort of weird fundraiser.
Speaker 4:Oh, yes, we, yes, we did have a. You know, we had a beer bet.
Speaker 2:We had a Whiskey bet, I'm sorry, a whiskey bet on some sort of piece of I can't even remember it was like some auction item or whatever. I didn't think that would go for a certain amount. Yeah you got the joke, we instantly hit it off, and so you have one of the best sense of humor.
Speaker 4:I know we had a good time and then the last. I don't think it's gay I work with children, which I also felt like that was a strange thing to put in the column for unsure because all dudes who work With children are gay right.
Speaker 2:Well, no, really like no okay, you're kind of a coach.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 4:Tell me, tell me about your coaching of young people, tony. So what?
Speaker 3:was the end not coax young people. Oh, really, tell me about that. Tell us about your grooming of young people. Yeah, let's switch out coaching for grooming, and then I think we got a real idea of what he's doing.
Speaker 2:So. So what was the end result? And I'll post this picture.
Speaker 4:Please do this is not. There's no result like. That's what I I just. Tell me.
Speaker 2:You're trying to tell me that you have not obsessed about this picture.
Speaker 4:I thought it was a very. I thought it was a very astute like, like, look at myself from somebody else's point of view. I thought I thought it was. I thought it was just fascinating, as Jason is literally taking a photo just in case I don't want to lose it just in case Chad does not send this to me, I'm taking a photo. I will send it to you.
Speaker 1:I'll send it to you.
Speaker 4:You know, I just thought it was very interesting to see how somebody was looking at it, especially in a time when I feel, like Of most the young people that I I feel like I work with, are very non interested in in labeling Anything with sexuality or gender or anything like that and I thought it was super interesting that they're wrestling with this Themselves.
Speaker 2:They're trying to work out you know, because you very well might be gay, but you have a family and I mean you have clothing style that reflects that.
Speaker 4:But I feel like my clothing style. I feel like Sarah. Sarah's always like trying to put me in in clothes, so I feel like that maybe she's trying to make me look Less gay.
Speaker 2:She's trying to say that word, she's like put clothes on, I'm gonna dress you today, darrell, she's just like yeah, no, that's, that's not, that's not gonna look good. Well, chad, thank you for sharing that's a big, big, big swing and I appreciate your sharing Wow.
Speaker 4:I just, I just couldn't think of anything other than so. I guess my real question is so can you guys tell me if I'm gay or straight?
Speaker 3:Now that, I'm gonna be honest, I'm in the unsure candy. That's fair, totally fair.
Speaker 4:It's a spectrum. It's a spectrum cuz I'll be honest. A couple more drinks I can probably Mean yeah, I mean, I mean really, all you really have to do is compliment me enough and then I'll just be like, well, I guess I'm gay now, I think.
Speaker 3:I think it's really good at you and then so, and then make you self-deprecate.
Speaker 1:I can say you gotta have the two factor.
Speaker 3:You gotta feel a little bit bad, and then also good and I always feel a little bit bad.
Speaker 4:But you should from this show mentally mentally, not physically, I'm cool.
Speaker 2:No, we want to punish you mentally. It's not a good show unless Chad leaves horribly feeling horribly about himself, but really it's me who does it.
Speaker 4:It's I do it to myself. The aqua boys don't do it right. You guys are always super nice we try, we try really hard.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, if you listen to this show, we're super supportive, right every decision You've ever won back to the point when you started talking about your dad and Brian played a laughing track.
Speaker 4:It was super weird to find out a dude was dead and that nobody of all like. There were tons and tons of us who were all of a sudden texting each other and we all found out literally within the same span of like 20 or 30 minutes, and yet at the exact same time he had been dead since February.
Speaker 2:So on. Just just to go back to that part, just so I understand the off ramp here. He was on his deathbed. He knew he was going to die. Yes and he pulled in his brother and said yes, wow yes, and he said.
Speaker 4:And he said I don't want an obituary, I don't want a memorial service. No, and of course, now because he's done this, oh, we're gonna do a fucking memorial service for him, just to fuck with him, because he fucked with us.
Speaker 2:You're gonna get haunted.
Speaker 4:Oh I, I got no problem with that.
Speaker 2:Oh, you can have me on any once now he's.
Speaker 4:He's smart as fuck. I don't have, I would feel just fine with him.
Speaker 2:Do it Well, alright, P bro.
Speaker 4:Ogre, that was a good one man. Man, that was phenomenal.
Speaker 2:Thank you for putting yourself out there.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, I'll text you guys this photo. I'll text you Um. Alright, so anybody else have?
Speaker 2:anything they want to chat about anything not now, or?
Speaker 3:yeah, I know the next episode. Yeah, I'll save something for next show.
Speaker 2:But don't do another fucking nothing. No, next show is more important than our 40th show.
Speaker 3:Right, that's true, 40 is very important 40 is the most important, 41 is pretty important.
Speaker 2:No, fuck you, I Shut up you bitch Fucking a whole other level.
Speaker 3:All right, so should be like 43 is the so should we don't worry, you'll get celebrated should we talk?
Speaker 2:about minimal. Should we talk? Yes? Let's talk about it All right, so I was so minimal was a premiere, so it was like an hour and 12 minute show. So I decided I was the last five minutes, but I decided to round up to an hour so I started watching the last 10 minutes right, I got a lot.
Speaker 4:I.
Speaker 2:Will say that I did get a lot of footage in 10 minutes. But I have a ton of questions. But what we're gonna do is I'm gonna go move myself to the soundproof booth. You guys are gonna talk, kind of give a quick overview of what you saw and I'll come back and I'll give. I'll try my best to figure out what the hell Happened in minimal episode one called Manimal, which debuted September 30th of 1983. So you guys ready to take the show? Jason, you're in charge. Let's do this, all right.
Speaker 3:Godbrock will continue in a moment and we're back, all right. So Brian is in the soundproof booth boof, as he says, that's right, and and so we get a chance to kind of just talk about the show before Brian was back and discussed just a little about what we Would just experience in our lives. First of all, I don't know about you guys, but this was about 45 minutes too long.
Speaker 4:Holy fuck it was. It was good at moments, but there was this thing of like fuck, there was nothing else on TV, there was only like 10 channels for real and, of course, when there's only 10 channels, you're like, well, no, I guess we gotta like draw this shit out a little bit.
Speaker 3:I think this is also an example where they had it. They had they got together with a few different people that had some special skills and they were like man, we've got some, a couple of good name actors, we've got some great special effects guys Of course, this is great in quotation marks because actually they are great at the time extremely well credited, but I do. I think it's a time there were some they. Well, I think that's the point right, so they thought like we have these people.
Speaker 4:Yes, I do line up. We have a solid lineup.
Speaker 3:This is easy and then it became a throw away like the Cowboys every season. Yeah, exactly, okay, so minimal. Manimal is a show about a from September of 83 where a a Guess the title of the show basically comes from a police officer that can turn into any animal. But he's not really a police officer, he's a consultant. He's a consultant. It's also professor.
Speaker 4:He's a what the. I have so many questions about what the fuck is it?
Speaker 3:Do they ever actually?
Speaker 4:explain what he is, because at some point he shows some sort of badge. Yeah, and what the fuck did that badge?
Speaker 3:say so? I think he. I think in general the episode kind of revolves around the idea that there are there isn't a kind of a criminal underground ring of Transport, like they're in.
Speaker 4:New York. We're in New York. It's a port, yeah.
Speaker 1:We're smuggling. We're smuggling exactly smuggling things.
Speaker 3:Well, we don't exactly know, but the first few.
Speaker 4:There's a little weapon. I took a picture. I took a picture of the list. I froze it and I took a picture of the list. So don't worry, when Brian's back I will be reading you what they are smuggling, that's very good. That's, that's really funny, I saw that there's an a very important list with checkmarks and everything.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, thank you for taking picture that thing got a smuggler ring happening and some loatw. It feels like local cops Discover this, except that then one of them turns out a female, turns out to feel like maybe she's a detective.
Speaker 4:She is the smartest New York police officer, but she's not a detective.
Speaker 3:She's just a Street cop. Yes, it was the 80s.
Speaker 4:Do you think maybe they just wouldn't allow her to progress, that they were just like sorry girls have to be on the beat.
Speaker 3:They're very nebulous about what she, what she is, I mean no, cop car just like pulling over people.
Speaker 3:But then, as this episode goes on, is she a detective? They don't really say they do. They do try to pull your heartstrings. In the first scene there are some criminals that are transporting their smuggling weapons, and Is part of that. One of the criminals start to fire, that then blows up this truck that was full of ammunition and At the same time shoots the cop that was holding him hostage or not hostage, but holding him there at gunpoint and it was her partner and that was her partner.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that and so, then, that's the thing that's supposed to fuel us the rest of the episode. Yeah, it fueled her yes and then as we go forward in that interaction, she sees a. Is it a panther? Am I correct?
Speaker 4:It's a panther, it's a black panther. We have to talk about the animals, but we have to talk about them with with Brian, because we need to make sure he says so there is a.
Speaker 3:There is a again manamal, that shows up in the scene. He's trying to also help take care of.
Speaker 1:Fighting the crime it is.
Speaker 3:for some reason she's not confused by the panther, and now, now her nose has turned up to a couple things. She's looking for the smugglers, but she's also very curious about this panther. So, as time goes on and she's trying to solve these murders and dress all these, these crimes, I'm looking for loose panther. Yes, she's looking for a panther or a person that works with panthers, which she then finds out. There is a professor at the local University who's a consultant, who works with animals, who help police officers to fight crime.
Speaker 4:That's as much as she gets. So many problems, so many questions so many problems you know. I do think we are gonna need to consult with our Expert on the topic and figure out, if we give him a list of traits and actions, if the Manimal is a rapist as well.
Speaker 3:He now, that's not a bad point. He's very rapey, he is a police science department professor at NYU and he specializes in the use of animals and police work. Yes, thank you for clarifying for us.
Speaker 4:So what the fuck was that badge that he showed people at the beginning?
Speaker 3:It's what it literally, literally what it said. Yeah, it's like it goes around around this car.
Speaker 4:He's like hey, here's my business card and do what I say I didn't need that, you can commandeer. You can commandeer Taxicabs with a business card you can commandeer people's cameras. That was the nicest that was the nice.
Speaker 3:Fucking hell potentially become a snake or a shark.
Speaker 4:Did he become a snake now? I have so many questions about the snake too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but then there are a lot of Innu windows to also or not, any windows is straight up fact where they get into military and police officers, military's now like corrupt, and there's. There's a whole lot of like storyline that's happening a lot of side story.
Speaker 4:One episode we're talking about one episode like the pilot, they weren't even making her at that point. There's no backstory.
Speaker 1:They replaced the main the main side story is replaced in episode two spoiler alert.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh yeah, yes we'll talk about that.
Speaker 4:It's uh, it's a lot.
Speaker 3:They're trying to accomplish a lot in one episode. I and and they try are basically just trying to solve this smuggling mystery and this person who is a A, a man that can change the animals animal as you can see it goes from animal to animal to animal to animal to help solve yeah there's more details, but I think we should.
Speaker 3:We should kind of cover I think if they would have shortened his transition times because there's probably good ten minutes of this episode of him Switching from animal to animal, where you see him morphing and he's breathing heavy and you see the bubbly skin. It was.
Speaker 4:It was at least ten minutes of that, I didn't get to see one of the transitions. I think I haven't talked to Brian about it because the only transition they show Is him turning into the panther.
Speaker 3:Yes, which he turns into like four or five different animals, but he only shows the one which tells me they had the ones Like special effect guy. That then was like I don't know. I got three other projects. This is on the back and I got a theory on that gave them like a panther special effect and was like fuck it, use that.
Speaker 1:I don't know All right, let's get Brian in here.
Speaker 3:Let's get him back in here and we'll talk about the show. Oh Brian.
Speaker 2:Hello friends, back from the soundproof booth. Gosh, it's nice in there man it is, isn't it?
Speaker 3:We have some ouches.
Speaker 2:Thanks for putting out the chips. Yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 3:You're welcome, big bowl of chips, that's they have actually been in there since the last time we recorded. Did you notice they were stale?
Speaker 2:No, I just I.
Speaker 1:Shovels them in his mouth.
Speaker 2:I don't even care.
Speaker 4:I mean, which is why we love you, you love still chip it's. It's why we turn the lights out is so you can put as many chips in your mouth and nobody can see.
Speaker 2:They're super salty.
Speaker 3:Hmm. So, Brian, imagine that you only watched a portion of this, this incredible show of work that we watched we watched.
Speaker 2:Is it spoilers to ask? What was the overall opinion Like on a scale of one to ten? What'd you guys? We haven't talked about that.
Speaker 4:We haven't even gotten there, we figured we wanted to hear your take. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, I know we're supposed to do is like even though it's a complete waste of time to find out what his.
Speaker 3:I just, I just said I don't love it or I like it, but I don't love it. We'll give it. He just asked you for a one to ten and to those who've already tuned out.
Speaker 2:Thanks for joining us on the alcohol, golden palace, golden palace, and ten being freaks and geeks. Okay, where does this rank for all of you? I want to know, before I jump into my uh, what I saw in the last 11 minutes. It's six for me.
Speaker 3:Okay, I was gonna say six, okay.
Speaker 4:I'm five.
Speaker 2:Wow, wait, uh what's between one and ten.
Speaker 4:Is that five?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's five right.
Speaker 4:It's right in the middle, great, but it's five on one side or the other of the equator. Let's see one, two, three, four, five. Yeah, it is, that's on the lower side six.
Speaker 1:I'm five and a half.
Speaker 4:I can.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, he's five and a half so so it was an hour and 11 minute episode, so I started. I decided I would go back to the top of the hour, so I have the last 11 minutes and so I start, yes, with a shot of the twin towers. So obviously they're attempting to Honor the victims of 9 11. This is 1983 and not letting the terrorist win.
Speaker 3:So that was cool. I mean that, that, that over 20 years Before 9 11. Hey still, they did it.
Speaker 2:They did it right. They knew they were honoring america, which I thought was very powerful. So, besides that, I show up at a some sort of dock slash warehouse and lots of men Working, moving around, what seems like, and I I feel like this is a key Well, it's 80 of the show.
Speaker 3:Is there they're on a dock and there are guys moving boxes. Okay, and checking things off of lists.
Speaker 2:But if you look at what's labeled on the boxes, this says porcelain spas. So, I feel like that the porcelain spas plays a huge factor in.
Speaker 4:You're, you're, you're warm, very warm you know, I didn't even notice that that porcelain what? I well, there was so many other things earlier in the show that you was thinking about the porcelain spas. So I have a list of things I'll send you in just a moment. Okay, well, porcelain spas.
Speaker 2:Is obviously super important. So then I. Then I meet an older, what I assume was like an older sex worker, who pulls into the warehouse in a fur coat and has a thick russian accent.
Speaker 4:Is it russian?
Speaker 3:She's her name is Karen jade.
Speaker 1:I was just asking by Ursula Andrews, you think it's a russian accent?
Speaker 4:Yeah for sure. She was one of the bond girls. She was bonkers, to give you a to give you some background.
Speaker 3:Do we all think it's a russian accent and she's?
Speaker 4:a clearly a sex worker right, where was she, she's actually from Ukraine, or something like that.
Speaker 2:And she says something about the fact that there and the dialogue I did not turn on subtitles, but there's something about that. She's about to make a hundred million dollars in porcelain spas which, which is a lot of money back then.
Speaker 4:Then I see this is where things start to get a little confusing.
Speaker 2:So I see a black panther crawling around the boxes and just watching things and, just by the way, this was a real panther.
Speaker 4:They had real animal wranglers. This was a real. This was not CGI panther. This was real.
Speaker 2:No, they were definitely real.
Speaker 4:Then I see a line Well, there was a real panther, the panther he saw at that moment was A real panther and it would have been better if it had just stayed a real panther and we put peanut butter in his mouth. It could have just talked. That would have been way better.
Speaker 2:So I see, then I see a lion. And so so now I'm like okay, so there's more than one shape shifter in this show which would be awesome, which okay. So then the sex worker meets a woman that's bound in gag, she's tied up, she's not a sex worker.
Speaker 4:There's actually a sex worker and she's in a different scene.
Speaker 2:Yes, she is.
Speaker 4:This one's not a sex worker, she's not yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, this is the bond girl. She struck me as a sex worker. She's the bond girl. So then they all let him finish.
Speaker 3:Let him finish. Okay, okay. So then he wants to be a sex worker.
Speaker 2:It's a sex worker, so there's a gal that's there's a gal that's bond and gagged.
Speaker 4:And she's not in gagged.
Speaker 2:She's bound and gagged officer brook mckinsey.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, well, it sounds like yes, and in a white. In a white button up. That's just slightly unbuttoned. I didn't notice that I did notice that she had nice babies.
Speaker 2:So they are all scared because they realized at that moment that they've kidnapped a cop. And then I see a leopard running into the warehouse and a gigantic tiger. So so what I based on the all cats, all cats, right yeah?
Speaker 2:so so then, so I did. I did end up seeing like whatever they consider trailer, and I also watch the credits, so I do. So I assume that it was about one man and all, but now it is clearly a superhero team or some sort of group of shape shifters, because there's so many cats, a bunch of pussies together.
Speaker 4:Yeah, tons of pussy, like like the show, the secret show that's on Marvel, show that show for pussies getting together. You know what that goes in the game we would get more listeners wait maybe
Speaker 2:that goes in the street, just bad.
Speaker 3:No name of our show we did the same show and called it for pussies together for pussies.
Speaker 4:Talk about the Mavericks million listeners.
Speaker 2:Now this is yes, talk about the so so there is. So this is when I noticed, about a couple minutes in, that there is not very much dialogue in the show. That does that run pervasive, lead to the whole thing? Don't tell me, but I'm just. I mean it basically is just so cat footage, like there's a lot of cat foot.
Speaker 4:There was a lot of animal. The zoo was involved. Yes, they, and they wanted to show us all the animals they had yeah, they did they.
Speaker 2:Well, there was a lot of cat footage. No, no dialogue. But then I see there's a bunch of yet bad guys walking around with who is he's, but they're not saying anything. They're just walking around the warehouse. I'm assuming they're just kind of standing guard right there, just guards, and then the lions and tigers. Okay, this is where I was confused. So they start to knock out the guards one at a time, but they're not doing it with, with like teeth and claws, they're basically just kind of jumping sort of in their general like staring them and then they sit on them.
Speaker 3:Yes, true.
Speaker 2:I said they never really get touched. They just kind of make noise and jump over there non lethal pussy.
Speaker 4:When a man animal, when a man animal jumps out and scares you, you pass out for hours.
Speaker 3:It's crazy multiple people pass out in this episode.
Speaker 2:I, that's where I'm going. I said they don't even look like they even get touched, but they are past the fuck out. Yes, yes it's just the whiff.
Speaker 4:So then guys guys, are you with me? Oh, we're with. So then nobody else is, but we're with the black panther attacks.
Speaker 2:So the black panther attacks the sex worker by her car and some of the henchmen decide to throw I guess Canada, I was canisters of cat knockout gas or I guess that's like they just had him handy so I didn't know what it was. But what it whatever does, it makes Black Panther cat who I'm assuming is the main cat, because that's feature a lot with the paw hand and the claws coming out.
Speaker 3:that looks so good, you saw that.
Speaker 2:So it makes me think that they knew that the cats were attacking.
Speaker 4:They seem to have, like I feel like they got a deal on fog hogs and so they needed to use like a smoker at some point, almost like what you would do like to a beehive, but instead they were doing it to full grown.
Speaker 2:The cat does stumble away it's fucking Puma and it's, it's a panther or a panther, I don't know. There was like a million cats in a panther, okay, but it does stumble away as if it looks like it has been drugged and I did ask myself did they actually drug the Puma?
Speaker 3:or the panther it was the 80s, so very likely that these animals were just like they drugged a female in the show, but that's fine.
Speaker 4:Well, we have to get your opinion on some things.
Speaker 2:So there is a lot of. So the other cats apparently see this cat being drugged and stumbling around and they scream they're super upset but they just leave. Which is so weird, the other cats. You would think they would attack to defend Black Panther.
Speaker 4:But they don't.
Speaker 3:How many cats do?
Speaker 2:we see in the single frame.
Speaker 4:How many cats, I wonder do they all own?
Speaker 3:We never see them all in one, only one in a time. No weird.
Speaker 4:You can see the cuts whenever different animals are walking so they wouldn't actually fight in real life. No, probably not, good to know.
Speaker 2:And then as my first experience of the very fake which I think was felt cat paw Like. It looks like, felt like some sort of paw yesterday.
Speaker 4:It definitely looks like felt. It is like if we took there was no time spent on that prop, like if we took like a paint stir stick and covered it and felt and then like pushed out some toothpicks, some white toothpicks out of it. I feel like that's the effect of the Puma.
Speaker 2:And that would be more realistic than what I saw in this show.
Speaker 4:Yes, and we have to also shake it a little bit, shake it back and forth just pushing through flesh.
Speaker 2:It's very misshapen too, but one thing that we do see before the cats leave. They do watch Black Panther transform into man in full clothing.
Speaker 4:I think in full, like he's almost always in a tux or tux, yes, he's almost always in a tux, and he does, he does turn into. So I had a lot of questions about that.
Speaker 2:We also have a lot of questions so he is, so I would assume that he would transform into a fully tuxedoed Puma or Panther.
Speaker 4:Well, yes, that's true, this is true, but that's also problematic.
Speaker 3:Do you think his clothes shrink with him?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I spent an unhealthy amount of time trying to make this kind of even out in my brain.
Speaker 3:I kept thinking the amount of unhealthy time is just the hour and 11 minutes. It was an unhealthy amount of time.
Speaker 4:I kept thinking about this is the same year that the thriller video came out and I feel like the thriller video. They did bubble forehead a lot in that video. Well, they had the. You know he turns into the thriller guy, but then at the end doesn't he turn into like a cat, yeah, yeah. And so I just kept thinking and I did a deep dive. I tried to find somebody who worked on both thriller and animal, but I could not find that person.
Speaker 3:Because this was the competition.
Speaker 2:But did it take that long through the rest of the show Like his transformation takes like a full minute?
Speaker 3:There is a good ten minutes of nothing but transformation footage from this episode At least four more of those, so filler.
Speaker 4:Oh my god, four of them. You just hear the breathing of Tony jerking off over and over and over again.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of breathing. So then they so the rest of the cat team runs away, and they haven't bitten Claude or maimed anyone. They just sat on them and stared at the bad guys. Yes, and why aren't the bad guys just absolutely screaming to each other that they have a full grown ass tiger sitting on their? I mean, they're.
Speaker 3:Or like use your oozy, yeah, shoot the god damn cat that is. There's so many questions there, but that is the theme in the whole episode.
Speaker 4:A lot of questions.
Speaker 3:People see Panther.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:I mean, if I saw Panther right now. We walked out your door, we went out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out of the out boys studios Went down the street Went down the street Park and there was a panther, I'd be like, oh fuck, we got to go yeah, right now.
Speaker 2:The second it turns towards us.
Speaker 3:Let's get in a car and let's at least call somebody and then we'll watch the panther until we find animal services or the zoo or somebody.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 3:But like that's a fucking panther, it will mall us and everybody else seems to be like.
Speaker 1:Interesting.
Speaker 4:And on the flip side, but they do pass out a wild animal in this place.
Speaker 3:But I think it's a proximity thing, because then if you open a door and there's a panther within 10 feet, then your reaction is more like up.
Speaker 4:And you just pass out for hours, yeah you're like I can't believe I saw a panther. I'm fast.
Speaker 3:But I think it's a 10 to 12 feet thing, and if you're a criminal.
Speaker 4:Would you feel like if you saw this panther in your warehouse looking at you? Would you feel more threatened by that or just by like a guy with a gun? I don't know, I wrestled with that, but I think panther, yeah, I would be, I would be super.
Speaker 2:So fucking wrong with you guys, I would be super surprised, but then I would immediately use machine gun in my hand to make them go away. So I'm standing next.
Speaker 4:Well, let's not use me as an example, but so you have standing weird, you're standing with your toe pointed, that's right.
Speaker 1:And you have facial expressions that are over expressive so you have your funny.
Speaker 3:But you're standing there but your fluid movements are great.
Speaker 2:But you're standing there in point shoes.
Speaker 4:We all agree You're more scared of the person who's going to. You're less scared of the person who's going to shoot at you than you are of the panther at the same distance.
Speaker 2:Panthers are apparently a very lethal thing. Well, they do.
Speaker 4:So people close to you.
Speaker 2:They do nothing. That's the part that was like, okay, we're going to get to that, but I keep going.
Speaker 3:So, then.
Speaker 2:So they find transformed suit wearing guy. Jonathan Chase who okay, so his name is not Jesus Christ.
Speaker 4:It's not Jesus Christ, he does have a lot of monogram to Jaycee.
Speaker 2:I thought it was Jesus Christ. Oh yeah, what monogram.
Speaker 4:did you see what would so later?
Speaker 1:Oh good, so, later, when they're in there in his own personal spa his right, then yes. Is it his?
Speaker 2:rape.
Speaker 4:It's his rape layer.
Speaker 2:I thought it was her porcelain spot. Oh, no, oh because sports porcelain spots.
Speaker 3:Oh, they are very important. Part of my position just says it said plans foiled so easily. And the next note is what bathroom, spa, pool is this?
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
Speaker 2:That's where you are, yes, so so they find him transformed and yet fully clothed, which I have three question marks after that and they decide not to kill him immediately. Like they they're they're few they decide they're going to tie him to the cop that they already found inside what I'm assuming is a boat filled with porcelain spas. So then, this is the first time that I saw the transition. So they're tied together and she's they're back to back on some sort of pole and she's talking to him. So she must be like the leader of the, the team of transformation Tiger people.
Speaker 4:The word in the white shirt.
Speaker 2:Very close. Well she's, well, it is pink. Actually, I think it was pink, and a few Okay.
Speaker 2:Well yeah, she's, but she's beautiful, Just not going to. She's beautiful Beautiful Now, and so she's tied back to back. And so so manimal, guy, puma or whatever guy he is, starts to transform again. That's when I saw the fake forehead face oh my God, the fake bubble hand, and that my note is exactly paw, oh my God. Paul, oh my God. So then manimal cuts the ropes with their teeth and claws. Bad guys comes in to check on the captives and he passes out immediately at the site of the panther, yes, and she grabs this gun, which I felt like was a good call, and then suddenly it transitions to we're in some sort of meeting room, I don't know.
Speaker 4:I was totally tuned out by now.
Speaker 3:No, it's all. Cargo ships have meeting rooms with stained glass windows that panthers jump through.
Speaker 2:Yes, I was super confused.
Speaker 4:I remember that for the opening.
Speaker 2:We are like a fellowship hall at church, but they're talking about a new world order, so I guess that these are all like people from like that are part of big porcelain spa or something.
Speaker 3:I think it's big porcelain.
Speaker 2:How many porcelain products are sold, but they were clearly and I use this term very loosely for all the terrorists that listen they were accented and clearly talking about rising up from the ashes of whatever thing they were about to destroy. So they were new world order people.
Speaker 4:It reminded me of the new top gun. You know how, the new top gun they don't actually ever define who the enemy is. Yeah, they're just kind of foreign ish. Yeah, let's just say they.
Speaker 3:They probably bought a golfing tour, live golf, maybe Something like that, oh, the live golf people.
Speaker 2:Ok, so the live golf people.
Speaker 4:Greg Norman, I didn't get that. I thought they were Turkish.
Speaker 3:Now, he's sad, he was sad, he's just want to ask about what her accent was when you had talked about this.
Speaker 2:I thought they were.
Speaker 3:Russian because it was like wait oh well Russian and by the way, she's a sex worker.
Speaker 2:She's different.
Speaker 4:The only reason I say that's confusing is because there is an actual sex worker in a previous scene you didn't see. But the important thing about that sex worker is, in addition to being a Bond girl, she was also in Playboy for which she wait, the Russian girl or the actual sex worker? The Russian girl.
Speaker 2:The Russian, she was the Bond girl Tony was actually a Bond girl.
Speaker 4:Research along those lines, of course I did. She was in Playboy.
Speaker 2:You have the research readily available.
Speaker 4:I do not, and also.
Speaker 3:Officer Brook McKenzie is also naked. She doesn't look at this. He doesn't look at this on this computer.
Speaker 2:It is Wait, the Russian is a cop too.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:The the. Oh the other girl that was tied up she gets naked in magazines.
Speaker 4:Oh, yes, yes, well, yeah, I yeah, but the movies are in movies.
Speaker 2:God bless you for your research, Tony. How quickly did it take? They both were freaking gorgeous, by the way.
Speaker 4:Right, pretty quick, and anybody want to guess the Bond girl? Anybody want to? Yeah, the Bond girl was not my thing, but anybody want to guess what she got paid to be in Playboy the first time $100.
Speaker 2:I'm going to say $999 billion. It was more.
Speaker 4:It was more than anybody had been paid at the time Typically.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm going to. I'm going to guess again. Hold on, what's the game? I'm going to say $230,000.
Speaker 4:No, it was $15,000, which was like three times the amount that pinups were normally paid, because she was a Bond girl and then we're talking about the Russian.
Speaker 2:Yes, the Russian.
Speaker 4:Okay, yes, and then, it like I would do $15,000 and then eventually, evidently much later on. I don't know when playboys.
Speaker 1:This person, yes, yes, when playboys freaking gorgeous 65th anniversary came around.
Speaker 4:They wanted her to pose again and they they offered her 65,000 and she turned it down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but how old would?
Speaker 1:she have been at that point.
Speaker 4:Like 65 years later.
Speaker 2:How old was she in the show Like?
Speaker 3:oldish 40 like yeah, she was, definitely she was. She was in her 50s. No, she wasn't, she would have been in her 40s.
Speaker 4:I vote no.
Speaker 3:I think she was a little older.
Speaker 4:Fuck you, are you talking? Fuck you. They did her no favors. That's what I'll say. The makeup and wardrobe department did her a hand, no favors. No, she had her feet. Look like that blonde hair. No, tony, come on, how old was she when they she film this? No, no, the concept, the real dear. What else did you see?
Speaker 2:Okay okay, okay, move on. I'll say here we go.
Speaker 4:When do you think this show jumped the shark? That's my question.
Speaker 1:All of it.
Speaker 4:Because I was thinking about that for a long time. But then, of course, I realized what I'll tell you when at four minutes and one hour and eight minutes.
Speaker 3:That's right.
Speaker 2:So the cops bust in on this meeting of the the new world order and I think some sort of deal for spas and is being made, and the Black Panther jumps through a stained glass window which I didn't understand were on ships. So I'm right there with you, tony. I didn't know where he was coming from.
Speaker 3:We're in the chaplain's room.
Speaker 2:It's the port hole. It wasn't a port hole.
Speaker 3:It's a very expensive.
Speaker 2:I think you're saying that wrong.
Speaker 3:He put a lot of images in a hole, all right, so.
Speaker 2:So this is where I got super confused because we're in the meeting room that is also the chapel and a port hole. He jumps through the window. They all immediately give up. Like immediately or arrested.
Speaker 3:Well, she also has a Mac 10 machine gun in her hands.
Speaker 2:Okay, then they jump to the cops house and she's enjoying some sort of and built in indoor spa. She's like a real fancy house. It's JC's house. Oh, god damn it, it's Jesus's house, mm hmm, oh house. Ish, it's his layer. I thought she lived in like some sort of abandoned church. Doubles as a zoo.
Speaker 1:So my note of that point was why don't we?
Speaker 3:embroider more things.
Speaker 2:My Ashley would monogram the shit out of everything I own if I gave her that power. Okay, so, so then, sexy, sack, music, sacks, music starts playing and it, it. This next scene is clearly like the setup to a porn, like they are their sexy time getting ready to happen, or it did happen. I don't know if I missed something. Is this are they already partners.
Speaker 4:Is this where he tells her like to drink this?
Speaker 1:and you forget. No, that was earlier.
Speaker 4:Okay, she says that was after the process. I wasn't sure which sexy time this was.
Speaker 3:You see, Cosby sir, yes.
Speaker 4:Many times.
Speaker 3:Oh, he is a creepy mother times this actor and he's vaguely British, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think he's a faking. No, he's vaguely.
Speaker 4:He's lit, he's literally British in real life.
Speaker 2:I think he is. Yeah, nobody likes him, so she so so. So sexy time is about to break out, or it already has. She knows that he's secretly a cat.
Speaker 1:Mm, hmm.
Speaker 2:But he's afraid that she's going to tell a secret, correct. And then she says something about they haven't caught the kernel yet, mm, hmm. And then it cuts to some dude in a pool and a shark comes after him.
Speaker 3:He's the kernel.
Speaker 2:And I can't compute that. Oh, I mean, I don't even know A shark, just appears like did it come out of the drain, so does he have telepathy with other animals.
Speaker 4:So he seems to be able to talk to some of them.
Speaker 3:What's weird is I felt like you described 10 minutes of the episode right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I actually feel like you described the whole episode.
Speaker 4:It's true all the way down to the list is such a long episode that nothing nothing really happens and everything happens. And how could nothing happen?
Speaker 2:Everything happens, it's all the same stuff they just over and over and over and over and over and over and over no but every time there is so much stock zoo footage, I'm sorry I'm going to cut you off.
Speaker 3:Good, every, every time, he's using his powers. He's using his power just to listen and watch.
Speaker 2:He's observing, that's that's all he really does, like he has good cat hearing. Yeah, he's got cat, but he has that when he's a man.
Speaker 4:So why does he need to turn into the cat? Because they, they also, they also. Let's show him using the powers of the animals when he's a man. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's really weird. He is Well, he just looks at so his. So this episode revolved, so you've got some some thoughts that are right. You're not far off In addition to big porcelain.
Speaker 4:I also also needle clamp screws were one of the things they were shipping.
Speaker 3:They were also shipping sewing machines, yeah, and the thing that knocked them out was nerve gas, yes, which I don't know about cat nerve gas I don't know if you know, but no, no, no, normal nerve gas.
Speaker 2:So they aren't at war with the cats? No, no, no. Nobody has any idea what the cats are doing.
Speaker 3:There is this whole episode of all is around the idea that there is a smuggling operation that is horse, it's smuggling. Smuggling anything that they can is illegal.
Speaker 4:There they're, they're in the. In the opening scene he learns.
Speaker 3:Yeah, In the opening scene you learn about machine guns, tear gas guns, in fact that the guys that get caught in the first scene are smoking a cigarette and they, like, flick the cigarette into what then is a spilled, because the truck knocks over. Of course they catch them and the truck knocks over and they throw the cigarette, but into like ammunition, which of course blows the truck up.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, so they're smuggling ammunition. Then yeah, there are a lot of things, there's been a lot of things.
Speaker 3:Ammunition force, the smuggling drugs, nerve gas, obviously, Bob, in cases.
Speaker 2:So, so they're very well organized. Ask a very fundamental question what is a porcelain spa?
Speaker 1:Is it like a whirlpool yeah, it's like a toilet or a bidet, or something you can also?
Speaker 3:or is it an actual one of those top spa that may not have a porcelain but, hold on, does it? Well, tony knows? Is it a bathtub of the jets? I do, I do.
Speaker 2:She get rid of that, like the one in West Side Story. You get rid of it. Have you seen those videos? Banana cleaning your.
Speaker 3:Clean your bath tub with your bath tub has jets.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've cleaned. Have you seen the videos? No, like YouTube. What?
Speaker 4:are the videos that I mean. I'll make you regret it. No, I've clean, I've cleaned it, I've completely changed out the motor inside of my telling
Speaker 3:you.
Speaker 4:No, no, I've cleaned it, I'm fine. Well, everything got replaced after the fire.
Speaker 3:So that's, ok. Yeah give it a year.
Speaker 1:What do they get? Get all gross.
Speaker 3:I've seen how much back here you have, that's true.
Speaker 1:No, no, no.
Speaker 2:So this is a part of the show You're just saying. You saw a YouTube video where, like, jets are dirty.
Speaker 4:I'm just curious Do you drink the water of the bath jets that you're in? You lay in have you ever been in a hot tub.
Speaker 3:You just lay in we all agree, you don't.
Speaker 2:I don't love, oh, I fucking love hot.
Speaker 3:I don't love hot, I don't know, I fucking love.
Speaker 2:I don't like we got distracted. People suit.
Speaker 4:This is true this is you like taking baths, so you, you like to take bath every once in a while, I like to be completely immersed in water.
Speaker 3:If I love a bath, breathe underwater, I would want my bath is is there's no jet but you?
Speaker 2:do post shower bath right Sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I have to shower. Right, I have to shower first.
Speaker 2:If I take a bath where I'm soaking in hot water, I will immediately exit the bath and take a shower where I rinse off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know what. Yes, so fuck are we talking about. Correct, okay, okay. What the fuck are we talking about, right?
Speaker 3:now Really straight stuff. Oh, now I understand. So this episode, it like it introduces this, basically, the first scene-ish is these smugglers that are that are have been caught by a cop or two cops and in the process of trying to apprehend them, one of the older cop dies and the female cop who was younger is left, you know, alive. So she doesn't control the cats.
Speaker 2:She wants to, then. She wants to then like avenge her partner.
Speaker 4:Right and becomes the smartest cop ever.
Speaker 3:Yes, in the same. She's not a detective, she's a cop In plainclothes.
Speaker 4:All of a sudden, now she's in plainclothes, correct, now she's on her own roof In the same scenario, Does she's in plainclothes? Watch out, in plainclothes. I like how you say that. I know you do.
Speaker 3:In the same scenario, she sees a black panther. She's not freaked out by this. I mean, she's freaked out by like, oh, what's up with that? But she's not freaked out that like, oh my God, I saw a fucking wild cat and somebody should arrest this cat. She didn't say that.
Speaker 2:So everyone's. Oh so, is it common knowledge within the universe that there are people that transform the cats? No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:All he is. He is just a.
Speaker 4:He is a college professor that also works with the police department in their science division, and he fought, he fought in a ma'am and he got put in a tiger cage and then he started breathing a lot.
Speaker 3:They don't explain, they don't explain, they don't explain his plan.
Speaker 1:He fought in NOM. They don't explain his partner.
Speaker 3:Who is introduced for 30 seconds?
Speaker 1:Who's the best?
Speaker 3:Who's?
Speaker 2:the best part A female cop.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on hold, on, hold, on hold on hold on Okay, okay, no he.
Speaker 2:This is nothing have to do with my supposition by the way. There's nothing to do with your supposition I leaned heavily into the porcelain spa angle no none of it.
Speaker 3:I can probably tell by the way we all reacted. None of us knew anything about a porcelain spa. None of us picked up on that.
Speaker 4:We did not give a shit with what they were smuggling by the end. We gave two fucks about that I sent you the picture in the first five minutes. I sent you the picture with their smuggling. So I was so excited. I was like, wow, they're so organized with their smuggling, they go through all of this, they go through all of this.
Speaker 3:They go through all of this. Their truck is a sewing machine truck. It says sewing machine blah blah, blah.
Speaker 4:It's a giant sewing machine. No, no, it is not a giant, it's a machine, it just says somebody's sewing machine on the side of the truck.
Speaker 3:But what's funny is that as they're loading it, the bad guy drew he's the one that's the head bad guy and moving all the guns and shit, you can see him with a list. So they went through all of the effort of making it not look like it's a gun running. But on the actual list itself it says 200 Mac 10 machine guns.
Speaker 4:Yes, yes, it's literally a decoder list of what is what, and I'm like these guys are gonna get caught.
Speaker 3:But, all the while, the entire, so when they're saying porcelain spa, they mean Mac 10 guns.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the entire episode.
Speaker 3:the guy that was in the shark attack at the end is a colonel and he is the through line of the army. Who is colonel of the army. So you are mixing the police officers and the military together and this colonel is facilitating these shipments. Colonel Hunt, so that it will Excuse me. It's actually a sea hunt, a sea hunt okay.
Speaker 2:Colonel Sea Hunt Okay.
Speaker 3:A sea hunt, and so hunt, he's our colonel of our country, hunt.
Speaker 2:Our country, okay, country, and so he is. Oh, I don't get it.
Speaker 3:He's facilitating this, like you know, smuggling business through like, oh yeah, it's fine, we're not gonna worry about this boat cause it's fine. And of course, nerve gas is on and he's selling it to the nerve.
Speaker 2:Terrorists, mm-hmm, all of us. So that's the cat, the cat knockout gas that I saw earlier.
Speaker 3:It was just nerve gas, but there's so much in between those things, that doesn't make any difference. It doesn't make any difference and also doesn't make any sense, Like notes that I wrote were. So the cat visual effect was the only one they had money for. Yes so he turns into a bird.
Speaker 1:So the bubble forehead is used a lot? Yes, can you tell us?
Speaker 4:what other animals does he turn into, cause you seem to know some other animals he turns into.
Speaker 2:Well, I kind of cheated because in the credits. There is a cobra, nope, he doesn't turn into a cobra.
Speaker 3:Keep going, keep going.
Speaker 2:I did notice that in the park there was an earthworm. Nope, no, okay, keep going. And then that's pretty much what's in the credits.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you saw other animals. Right In the last few months I saw a lot of them.
Speaker 2:I saw like I saw lions and tigers and jaguars and poos, and what was the what?
Speaker 4:was the? What was the one? Lions and tigers, and what Jaguars and poos?
Speaker 3:Like from what I can tell. See that, from what I can tell, wait hold on.
Speaker 4:No, no, no. What did you say before?
Speaker 2:Lions, tigers, jaguars and poos. No, just just wait. The one starts with a J.
Speaker 3:Wait a minute. Does that start with a J Jaguars? Wait what we found it what? He put an extra A on the end of that Go again.
Speaker 2:What Jaguars? And okay, Jaguars, Spell it. Wait, hold on.
Speaker 3:Spell it for the class.
Speaker 2:I can't spell no, come on, come on.
Speaker 3:Chad can't spell, but you can.
Speaker 2:J-A-G-U Come on.
Speaker 3:Don't be a. Don't be a dick. Okay wait, don't be a dick.
Speaker 4:So imagine you're driving a car that's an expensive car, that's got Jaguar.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, are you British.
Speaker 4:Do you have a helicopter?
Speaker 3:Helicopter.
Speaker 2:Okay, we're getting off the helicopter. Do you have a helicopter or?
Speaker 3:a helicopter.
Speaker 2:I'm just curious.
Speaker 3:Is that the?
Speaker 4:way they pronounce it in Britain.
Speaker 2:Jaguar. Okay, then why don't?
Speaker 4:you have a fucking British accent. I don't know, it's just how I learned it.
Speaker 3:There's nothing after the R besides the S dickhead.
Speaker 1:Who taught you? Who taught you this Jaguar? Isn't that like a?
Speaker 4:jabber.
Speaker 3:Are you sure you're not thinking of Jaguar? He's putting something after the R, is it Jaguaras? Say it again, brent Jaguar.
Speaker 2:Lions tigers, jaguars no.
Speaker 3:Stop, you're a fucking dick. Say the word, say the word Jaguar, jaguar.
Speaker 2:That's how I say it, I'm slowing it down, wait it's.
Speaker 3:Jaguar.
Speaker 2:Jaguar, jaguar.
Speaker 3:Jaguar, jaguar.
Speaker 2:Well now, my brain is like fucking crazy.
Speaker 1:You're saying it. You're saying it, it's.
Speaker 2:Jaguar, jaguar, thank you, jaguar no.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, you fucking idiot. Jesus Jaguar, you're saying Jaguar, jaguar.
Speaker 2:You're not saying it right.
Speaker 3:No, it's Jaguar, jaguar, say it slower, jaguar.
Speaker 2:Jaguar, jaguar Jaguar.
Speaker 3:No, what? You say it faster, then you say it faster.
Speaker 2:Lions, tigers, bears and jaguars.
Speaker 3:No Say, jag Say Jag, jag Say the word war.
Speaker 2:War, say raw, jag War Jaguar. There you go, jaguar.
Speaker 4:No, say raw, say raw, what Say raw.
Speaker 2:Raw.
Speaker 4:Now say Jaguar.
Speaker 2:Jaguar.
Speaker 1:Jaguar, I was just trying to get you to make a sound. That, jaguar, it goes raw Jaguar.
Speaker 3:It's a Jaguar Anyway he turns into a panther jaguar. Whatever it is panther, some kind of cat?
Speaker 4:So does he not turn into the fucking snake? No, the cobra, the cobra that's used to interrogate is brought in.
Speaker 1:You're made to think that because, Wait a second.
Speaker 2:Did they just bring the snake in for fun? What sentence did you just say? Ok, they used.
Speaker 4:Ok, Jag they interrogate a guy.
Speaker 3:They're trying to interrogate the lead bad guy. His name is Drew. He's in with a sex worker. They go to his apartment and he's about to have sex with a stripper or a prostitute. She faints and Ty.
Speaker 2:She faints because of sex.
Speaker 3:Ty is Jesus' sidekick, right the black guy? Yes, the cobra.
Speaker 2:Oh OK, he's a protector I thought the cobra was named Ty.
Speaker 3:So then he walks into this Drew's apartment, he sneaks in and then he goes into the bathroom and he sets the basket on the ground in the bathroom behind the prostitute, and then he takes off the lid and then a cobra pops out.
Speaker 2:She sees it and she passes out, and that is Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, that is actually turns out to be a real cobra, but they seem to be.
Speaker 4:Yes, they seem to be tricking us somehow. Ok, wait, but did you recognize where the guy was from? The actor who played the sidekick Did you recognize? Where he was from Because you guys have been watching or I think Jason's been rewatching the Wire or watching the first time in a while.
Speaker 1:He's been a ton of moves.
Speaker 4:He's the mayor in the Wire, oh shit.
Speaker 2:Yes, he's actually got an amazing career and I feel like for Aquaboy, the mayor in the Wire. Yeah, glenn.
Speaker 4:Terman, yeah, he's the mayor in the Wire and then eventually the former mayor in the Wire, but then also he was on Broadway when he was 12. Yeah, that's him.
Speaker 2:Oh, wow, yeah, OK.
Speaker 4:When he was 12, he was in the original Raisin and the Sun. For those of you gay theater nerds with me, he played opposite Sidney Poitier in Raisin and the Sun on Broadway when he was 12. That was the original cast, and then the thing that I feel like is the most important for our Aquaboy listeners is that he was indeed married to Aretha Franklin for six years. What the fucking fuck Holy shit, so I just wanted to pass that along.
Speaker 2:Who had what? The longest funeral of all time. It was like 75 feet.
Speaker 1:I don't remember seeing him at it, but I'm going to go back, I'm going to rewind.
Speaker 4:I'm going to go see what's happening with the Aretha Franklin.
Speaker 2:What you're telling me is that this had nothing to do with some sort of big cat rescue farm.
Speaker 4:No, no, no, no. I literally wrote Snake in a Basket.
Speaker 2:What the fuck.
Speaker 4:An.
Speaker 2:Egyptian headdress that she found in a cave.
Speaker 3:So the moment that no, also not that. So the moment that we learn that the snake is not him.
Speaker 2:But he's controlling it with his mind. Where that's our question, he's not even there yet.
Speaker 3:Well, he comes in, he just shows up, he shows up.
Speaker 4:It was confusing as fuck. It was momentarily out of the.
Speaker 3:I like boom, he's there, like somehow, so we're meant to believe.
Speaker 2:So they're interrogating with the snake, like they're expecting the snake to ask all the tough questions. No, no, no so like yes, yes, that's kind of it.
Speaker 3:Every scene that has an animal, this same actor immediately shows up. So we're like used to this.
Speaker 2:Oh, so he's oh wow, he just he's not the cobra.
Speaker 3:Disappeared. Now he's there. This is the first incident where the cobra shows up. His partner brings the cobra in a basket, lets it out. The cobra shows up, freaks people out. And then this the same detective or not detective, police officer, what's her name? Again. Whatever name is, she shows up. She thinks by this point she has a theory. She has a theory that this animal is Brooke McKenzie. Brooke McKenzie has a theory that, like the professor who controls animals, is actually animal anamorphic.
Speaker 2:So at this point she doesn't know that he's a puma.
Speaker 4:So she? No, she thinks he is, and so that's why she thinks he's a snake.
Speaker 3:She grabs the cobra, she grabs him just like willy nilly, like. Give me this fucking code.
Speaker 2:She thinks it's in the credit, that's in the credit she's grabbing this cobra and looking his face like you, fucking bitch cobra.
Speaker 3:What a little dick you are, okay. And then she then all of a sudden, behind her, walks in the professor, who is the guy that actually turns into a panther. She's like, oh my God, she freaks out, she dies or she passes out. And then the next scene. Yes, thank you. Motherfucker Correct. And then the next scene she's in different clothing. She's in different clothing, but she shows up. She's at his house.
Speaker 3:In a bed and he's like here, my house, whatever, and she's like trying to find lights, and she finds lights and she turns them on.
Speaker 2:So what's the Hold on? Okay, okay.
Speaker 3:And in turning on the lights she also discovers a zoo exhibit.
Speaker 4:Oh, that's on in the basement.
Speaker 3:Which has a panther in the basement.
Speaker 1:Yes, behind glass Like there at the zoo.
Speaker 3:No, no, this is so because you're like what's going on? And then he happens to walk in while the panther's there and she's like what the fuck's happening?
Speaker 2:The panther's like sitting in an easy chain, somehow like panther is behind.
Speaker 4:No, it's no no, she raises the glass. Yeah, she accidentally raises the glass.
Speaker 3:The panther walks towards you like I'm going to kill you, and the guy walks in. That is the panther. The professor walks in with his mind.
Speaker 4:Panther for what? No, he's in man form, but we never know. He like has a little conversation. He's like hey, I just raped this lady and I'm going to rape her again. So get the fuck out of here. We skipped something.
Speaker 2:She's so confused, Hold on hold on.
Speaker 1:Hold on.
Speaker 2:Wait, can I ask you a quick question? Okay, so he has to have.
Speaker 4:So he know, because he shows it Well, where the fuck is his shark living?
Speaker 2:So does he have to own.
Speaker 3:No no.
Speaker 2:Speak a animal that he can transform into?
Speaker 4:I don't think so. Wouldn't it just be easier? Can he just turn into other people? Wouldn't that just be easier?
Speaker 3:You would think you would think but no no, they have the scene with the cobras. How does this go back to Vietnam? Melody passes out, okay. Okay, they wake up in his apartment. She's laying in bed, she's naked. She's wearing his robe and he's also wearing like a red monogram and he's wearing a monogram and he's on the bed.
Speaker 2:Is her robe monogramed? Yes, it is. It's got Jesus Christ on it.
Speaker 3:And he's putting a. He has a cloth on her forehead and she's kind of groggy.
Speaker 4:And then she realized she passed out from the cobra. She passed out from the cobra and just got undressed by him and she's literally asked him.
Speaker 3:Okay, sorry. So she realizes that she's not wearing any clothes, she's wearing his robe. And then so she asks him why am I wearing this? And he says this what is this?
Speaker 2:Oh, it's my robe. It's extremely unwise for anyone unconscious to wear clothing that is tight or binding. It sounds like a set up to a porn as well.
Speaker 4:Sounds like a fucking serial killer.
Speaker 3:You're really enjoying this, aren't you? So she kind of freaks out. After that she's like I got to get the hell out of here. Wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Wait one for one second, one second.
Speaker 4:Something feels like it's been inside me and we agree that he is not British.
Speaker 2:That's a fake British accent. No, he's really British, he's really.
Speaker 3:British he's doing the worst British accent ever. He's trying to be posh, or?
Speaker 4:something. So he's doing like the American accent. He probably talks like. He probably is really cocky and real. He's probably like good day governor Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 3:He's not like with a cocky accent. Good eye. Well, I thought that he was this fucking twat has got me old, twisted around me knuckles.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm just going to rape her as many animals as I can.
Speaker 3:We're trying to do the same with some fucking pussy cats.
Speaker 2:And this fucking bitch and a bird and a hot bird, is this train spawning all of a sudden?
Speaker 4:I'll have a drink, this drink, and then I'll fuck her again.
Speaker 3:Boy man the safest thing to do is to change out of your pajamas. That's right. This fucking twat doesn't know what pajamas is. You know I'm saying so she's freaking out. Diminate him, diminate him, diminate him.
Speaker 1:In Jolly Olin when we call them poofas or boozey front thing or boosies.
Speaker 3:Yeah front fatty.
Speaker 4:It's just so. That's what she freaks out Back up.
Speaker 2:I got a question I got to insert in here.
Speaker 4:I'm not a key, a butter it is.
Speaker 2:I'm going to insert my question.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:I apologize. I apologize, it's my fault. Please insert your question.
Speaker 2:Okay, let me. Okay, you guys present and I'll insert. So is he trying to do an American accent but it's failing, or is he trying to overdo what Americans would perceive as a British accent?
Speaker 3:Yes, I think he's just trying to be very suave, he's it's very like a double seven-ish Grooming.
Speaker 1:he's grooming her.
Speaker 2:I'm definitely very fancier. Second question so this is not the guy who played face on A-Team no this is not that actor. Benedict, I think is it's not him.
Speaker 3:It is not him. Okay, this guy did Manimal and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 2:Really yes, nothing after that, nothing really no, not even adult films? No, are you sure? No, I know you checked, you, little minks. Okay, all right, keep going.
Speaker 3:She freaks out, and that's when he recommends to her let me give you this pill that will help you forget Any Cosmos. So he tries to Cosmos. Again, again, because he's definitely already done it once, because he gives her the pill, she fakes taking the pill and she lays down. She waits for the other two guys to go to bed because they say we're gonna go to bed. And then she gets out. Wait what two guys. Jesus Christ and Ty, I mean. They say they're going to bed. They say they're going to bed.
Speaker 2:Literally that's a weird visual it is, but whatever. So let's go to bed.
Speaker 3:Jesus Christ is a guy named Ty. He's got a Z shell necklace. Then she gets out of bed and then Jesus.
Speaker 2:Christ is the guy from the wire.
Speaker 1:They both go to sleep. They go to bed, they go to bed.
Speaker 3:No, the wire guy's not there. No he's there too. He lives with him.
Speaker 4:At some point? Also, doesn't the panther fall asleep next to her too? At some point, yes, for some fucking weird reason.
Speaker 2:The wire guy Wait he's the panther.
Speaker 3:No, no, wait, where's the wire guy? This fucking shit is outrageous.
Speaker 4:Well, they spent all this time in a tiger cage I watched it.
Speaker 2:They spent all the time in a tiger cage and Ty and Liz got really close and you guys still haven't gotten it clear to me why he lives in a zoo.
Speaker 4:We also haven't gotten it clear to us why he lives in an underground zoo.
Speaker 3:She goes to investigate. She goes into his basement, that's what she sees All of the other animals that he owns and she finds it. He has animals in cages?
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what they're trying to say.
Speaker 3:That's what they're trying to say they're friends, but apparently he speaks to them as well as being them.
Speaker 3:I don't understand so she's looking around his desk, she accidentally hits a button that opens up the enclosure for the panther. So that happens. Then she finds his journals, and that's where we hear his backstory, when he and Ty were in Vietnam and they were both in a little cage pastored by the Vietnam and they were about to be killed. And that's whenever Jesus Christ turns into a panther. And okay, well, you watched his hand turn into a panther, right.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay.
Speaker 3:That took less I'm sorry more time than their backstory for the friendship between him and the Vietnam War. Oh, so the the the, the, the guy that assists him.
Speaker 2:The mayor, the future mayor of the wire yes, was with him In the Vietnam, behind the wire in Vietnam. Correct, they got captured.
Speaker 3:They got captured by the Viet Cong and in that process JC turned into a panther, bit their ropes to get them out and which his best friend had no reaction to. It was like dude dude, that's fucking sweet that you can turn into a fucking panther.
Speaker 2:So he was born as a mutant. Basically Apparently no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no His father had the same power.
Speaker 3:His father, no, his father was a researcher of the power, but he had the he had the same power he inherited from his dad.
Speaker 4:Oh, I thought he inherited the. No, he inherited the research, but it wasn't until he was in the tiger cage.
Speaker 3:It was the. He inherited the ability to turn into other animals. Disagree, I think you just inherited the research. You're wrong. You're wrong, chad.
Speaker 4:It was these huge fuck off books of research.
Speaker 2:The real guy, the real guy was, but I mean before he was born. So she didn't. So she didn't find a mummified Egyptian king whose head dress was in the shape of a woman's reproductive system no, no, not heaven. Okay, just checking, because that was my supposition.
Speaker 4:I just feel like Tony misled our listener because he did do 59 episodes of Falcon Crest. Oh, he was in.
Speaker 1:Falcon.
Speaker 4:Crest After this, and he was indeed born in Cambridge Shire, England.
Speaker 2:Oh, Jesus Christ was.
Speaker 4:Yes and his dad. I really was interested because his dad is Sir John Mills. I don't know the fuck that is, but it sounds very British to me.
Speaker 3:Fuck it, there's literally nothing of note in this show. No, nothing really. There's nothing like you have.
Speaker 2:How could it not be? This is everything. And there's an animal transformation, you know everything and it is confusing a fuck.
Speaker 3:I feel like I could write 10 volumes.
Speaker 4:This is more confusing than chance.
Speaker 1:Of confusing elements, more confusing than my sexuality.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm sorry, I stepped on that joke.
Speaker 3:No, you're fine, You're welcome. I am in the unsure column of this episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:That's why I'm 5.5. Now, if it was a scale from zero to 10, I would be a fuck.
Speaker 3:I just don't even understand like what happened, why, who?
Speaker 4:We all understood the rape. We knew that he's a rapist that changes into animals.
Speaker 3:Right, there was one ET callback where as fuck yes, as JC turns into a hawk, which he's done multiple times in the episode.
Speaker 4:Wait he can be a bird, oh yes, but you never see it.
Speaker 3:You never see it.
Speaker 4:No that's the only other thing you're seeing when you get to fly.
Speaker 3:seeing out of his own eyes do you see from his own eyes? As I understand it, they never show the transition. They never show it. They only show Panther transition.
Speaker 4:They only had the one effect no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:The heart transition I feel like you see, like a little bit of the hand going like this no, no, no, there was a different hand moment. No, that's his pussy grab.
Speaker 4:That's.
Speaker 1:Donald Trump's pussy grab, that could be.
Speaker 2:That's his pussy grabber, okay. No you never see, so you don't see him transition into a bird no, fuck no. Or a cobra no, it becomes a bird but at one point it becomes a hawk.
Speaker 3:He's flying to try to go find the bad guys and he flies over the moon and they're like paws in the middle of the moon, as to be like.
Speaker 2:Oh, from the ET reference Gotcha. So does he have in his private zoo? Does he have a cobra and a hawk?
Speaker 4:No, well, we didn't get that deep into it.
Speaker 3:The only animal that they show is the Panther, that's it. I thought there were other cages though Also he falls in love with this Mackenzie. What it bridges? Wait, Brooke Mackenzie. Wait, do you?
Speaker 4:fall in love with the girl you're raping, I guess if you're a psychopath.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's fucked up, but he does fall in love with her.
Speaker 4:Why did you ask Jason that question specifically In episode one? I should have asked you, you're right. Oh shit, what a dick.
Speaker 3:What a dick it is. There's so much that's trying to happen, this one episode and honestly, like.
Speaker 2:None of it helps it. What are the rules? No, there are no rules.
Speaker 4:There appear to be no rules.
Speaker 2:Clothing is on.
Speaker 4:Clothing's off. It materializes, it first, it materializes.
Speaker 3:He turns into a Panther. Right, we've even brought up the fact that he but then later he gets into the rules of like he can control animals. Yeah, he can control. He needs backup and he can control the other animals. But we haven't even discussed when he turned himself into a house cat and he puts his head inside of Ursula Andrew's bathrobe while she's on the phone.
Speaker 4:Oh yes, that's true.
Speaker 2:Also because that's when I wrote what animal do you think he likes to rape as most? I was processing Tony, okay, say that again slower. So he has identified.
Speaker 3:he identified that there is this woman. The sex worker who wears a fur coat.
Speaker 4:You know well, this is your sex worker.
Speaker 3:You identified her as a sex worker.
Speaker 4:But she's the.
Speaker 3:In your mind. That's who she is. She's the boss lady. He identifies her as a prime suspect that is connecting with the colonel we don't know as bad yet at this point. How do they know that the they discovered this through the bad guys and the corruption.
Speaker 2:Oh, so she is responsible for murdering Cop's partner?
Speaker 3:Yeah, so JC is now a hawk and JC flies around trying to get close enough to the conversations to listen to this, who you understand as a sex worker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the big boss lady yeah.
Speaker 3:So he follows her to her apartment, okay, in which he sneaks in her window.
Speaker 2:That's kind of hot. Okay, we don't know what he does. Yeah, we don't know what he changes into or whatever there.
Speaker 3:But then she comes to her home, in her apartment, she starts changing clothes, she goes naked apparently.
Speaker 4:She gets out of the shower, she goes to the shower.
Speaker 3:She goes naked, she goes to the closet and she Did they show it Before she goes to the closet. She gets on the phone and she's talking to the colonel Mid combo. She says hold up a second, let me just do something. She goes to the closet because she thinks she hears something. Sure enough, there's now a white, fluffy like house cat in the closet. Person. She doesn't fucking have a house cat. She's like oh, a cat got in my car. Oh my God, a house cat got in here.
Speaker 4:How did it happen? It's weird that she doesn't faint Because it surprises her.
Speaker 2:So he's controlling the house cat, so he is the house cat. He is the house cat at this point, so she just picks up the house cat, go ahead, tony.
Speaker 3:While she's in the shower, he comes in the door and he starts snooping around. Then, all of a sudden, the phone rings. He hears the phone ringing, he runs into her closet and then she comes out immediately after that, answers the phone and then Jesus Christ is transferring into a cat while she's in the closet. She hears it, she puts down the phone to investigate the sound. She picks up the cat. Oh, a cat. She picks up a random fucking cat. Who does that? Who is in their house? And a cat is there when you're not expecting it, so she doesn't even bat an eye, like right now in Awkaboy's.
Speaker 3:Zero fucks given A cat pops out of the door and you're like what the fuck? Let me pick up that cat. No, fuck, no, you don't, I would put that cat.
Speaker 2:You're like get this fucking cat out of here. It is a rogue cat, but what were you saying about it?
Speaker 3:It puts his head on her, so she's on the phone, so we're not in there yet no, she's on the phone talking with the Colonel going over all of their evil plans. Then they cut to a shot of the cat has put his head inside of her bathroom next to her titties. She's just got out of the shower. She's naked.
Speaker 4:This is the most rapy show I think we've watched, which is why I think Brian will vote to renew.
Speaker 1:And it's not an accident. It's not an accident.
Speaker 3:They have put the cat's head under her robe For real. No, it's like covered by the robe. Yeah, it's looking nipple, it's. It's. It's for sure looking nipple. It's very odd.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know what I wish? You could watch this show. And then you're thinking the tech.
Speaker 3:That is an interesting texture. They definitely enticed that cat. I got to go, guys, I'm going to go find a cat Stack. So there's nothing redeemable of a show Cat blow jobs, I don't know.
Speaker 4:There's nothing else Like that the tongue is so sandpapery.
Speaker 3:That was the only thing we had. It hurts so good.
Speaker 2:Right in the hole.
Speaker 3:Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Yeah, so that that's the end of the show. They stop the world.
Speaker 4:I thought you meant our show.
Speaker 3:They stop the world. The end of the show. You show. You saw the show. There is no through line. It is fucking crazy. So OK.
Speaker 4:It's like loss there's a million questions and never an answer. That's true.
Speaker 2:And that is very true.
Speaker 3:Questions here they basically stop the world.
Speaker 2:They destroyed from nerve gas.
Speaker 3:With a cat, a lion, a lioness and a hawk. I have a shark. There are there are.
Speaker 2:OK. How can I say this?
Speaker 3:There are no team of man no, no, it is all him.
Speaker 2:It's all him, so he's controlling all those other cats in the warehouse.
Speaker 3:Correct. And one point I asked question what is Wait, Is the cat an actual cat? And then later I'm like oh no, no, it's not.
Speaker 4:And then I did have this thought too, because I feel like all the cabbies were super cooperative with him Very cooperative Do you? Think he could also control the cabbies the way that he can control the other animals, probably.
Speaker 2:What is a cabbie?
Speaker 1:Like somebody's driving a cab. Oh, that's not the time, so I could.
Speaker 4:I feel like the New York cab drivers are all really like, willing to help him out with anything he needs. You show me a business card.
Speaker 3:Ok, you can take over yeah come on, they also have weird healing powers, like he can heal himself. Like he's gotten hurt multiple times and like he's shot.
Speaker 2:So is he super human in general Like he, I guess, does he have cat abilities, even if he's not cat. He's just super creepy.
Speaker 3:He's super rapy, you got shot at one point though, and just.
Speaker 2:Because cats are horny.
Speaker 3:Are they?
Speaker 2:Cats are horny pets. No, I think you're thinking of nine lives, did you?
Speaker 3:guys notice that the music was fucking.
Speaker 4:It was really annoying.
Speaker 3:There was an entire first like 15 minutes the show was like a high pitch screech. That made me think that.
Speaker 4:I was maybe a dog, but they played beat it.
Speaker 3:They did have beat it, but it was not a Michael Jackson version of beat it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that was Michael Jackson it was not Michael Jackson. No fucking way, that was totally Michael Jackson. It was not Michael Jackson, 100% Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3:I can't wait. How do they fight?
Speaker 4:you, we are going to fight. I'm going to find that shit right now and play. Ok, go ahead. It was not Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2:How did they work in beat it by Michael Jackson? It was just in a book. They went to a nightclub.
Speaker 1:Oh OK.
Speaker 3:It was the very beginning of the show. When they're trying to investigate and they're trying to, they're following the guy.
Speaker 4:Not the very beginning, it was probably like 30 minutes in. It was fucking nightmare. It felt like forever. Horrible it was horrible.
Speaker 3:They go into a nightclub. They're trying to catch the Drew guy and what the?
Speaker 2:what guy the Drew? Oh, ok, the Drew, he was Drew.
Speaker 3:No, it was not good. Let me talk about the Drews. Oh my God. Please don't bring them up. This was not Schindler's List at all.
Speaker 2:I was so shocked. For a minute there I was like I didn't even know that angle existed in the show. It's all just that point. Wow, you guys sound like you really love this show.
Speaker 3:It was so bananas, like I mean, there's no through line, like no just no. Nothing makes sense. So the very end where the shark fin pops up in the pool, that's the entire show, we think nothing makes sense and also we don't even know there was no shark through the rest of the show. We also don't even know for sure if that was just a joke, if that actually was JC, If that was JC trying to play a prank, if JC was going to eat him.
Speaker 1:we don't even we don't know, they don't explain. I don't know. That is not Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3:You didn't tell me, michael Jackson.
Speaker 2:It's not Michael Jackson. It sounds like one of those things If you love Michael. Jackson, you'll love Jackson, michael Maybe it is.
Speaker 4:That is Michael Jackson.
Speaker 3:That is not Michael Jackson. Well, either way, it didn't advance the plot, so I guess that is a matter.
Speaker 1:It had nothing to do with the show.
Speaker 3:Much like everything else on the show had nothing to do with the show. All right, let's vote.
Speaker 2:OK, well, let me ask one more question. So that's Michael.
Speaker 4:Jackson. I'm voting to renew. Motherfuckers, that's Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2:So there was no cop that ran a cat rescue that starts building a litter box that will accommodate the cats accordingly.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:OK, gosh dang, that was way off my supposition.
Speaker 4:Did any of your supposition include rape? No rape.
Speaker 2:It basically included litter boxes that enclosed thousands of acres of land.
Speaker 3:No, that is off. You have a thing with cats, sentient cats, and litter boxes.
Speaker 2:Sentient cats are in there and they go to war because they realize that the litter boxes are.
Speaker 3:No, that's not all, that's true.
Speaker 2:OK.
Speaker 3:Cats are persecuting the droos. I wish you'd talked about that. That would have been more fun.
Speaker 2:All right. So, guys, we are in the part of the show that is called Cancel and Renew. If you guys are done talking about a show, I am thoroughly confused as to what actually happened.
Speaker 3:We are done.
Speaker 2:We're in cancel, renew. So that means we're going to go around the table and we're going to either vote to cancel or renew manual, and if we cancel it then we move on to a new show. We'll have to wheel out the big wheel here into the studio. Or if we vote to renew, we will watch Manimal Episode 2 and continue on in this year, you know in 2010,.
Speaker 3:They tried to reboot this franchise. What they tried to reboot Manimal.
Speaker 2:Yep, and do it as a movie, because I don't know.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:On what channel they were going to do a movie, a manual movie. Oh, that's so this is. Yeah, I did read that this is like a cult show, like people love this show, but it didn't even last a whole season. I mean, it was canceled, it was put on hiatus after its fourth episode aired they pulled it.
Speaker 2:It's super confusing. Ok, so we're going to go around the table and vote in cancel and renew, and this time we're going to be starting with my fourth line of succession. Friend Chad Chad, what is your vote on cancel and renew?
Speaker 4:It was Michael Jackson renew.
Speaker 2:All right, we have one renew vote. Now we're going to go over to Tony. Tony, what is your vote on Manimal? Cancel or renew?
Speaker 3:I got to see episode two, so renew.
Speaker 4:God damn it. I fucking should have canceled. I wanted to do the opposite of Tony, to fucking tell him to each.
Speaker 2:You guys are always at war. It was Michael.
Speaker 4:Jackson, you motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Why can't you just get along and fuck like him, Jason?
Speaker 4:Didn't beat up come out that year. How would they have had a second version of beat it? It's just some dude covering.
Speaker 2:Beat it right, Pay less money. Yeah, there's no way they could have gotten the rights to beat it with the budget.
Speaker 4:They didn't get the rights back then they just did whatever they wanted. That's why a bunch of those shows like aren't released is because of the music rights that they don't get. That is true.
Speaker 2:That's why they don't put them on DVD because they have got weird music copyright issues. Ok, over to Jason. Jason, now that you've had time with Manimal, what say you on your vote?
Speaker 3:Cancel.
Speaker 2:Oh, my god, all right, so over to Brian. Brian, now that you've thought about Manimal, what is your vote? Guys, I'm going to. I really struggled with my last 10 minutes and Can I just, can I just change my vote?
Speaker 4:No, you can't? You already voted.
Speaker 2:You can't change it, even if you go.
Speaker 1:What if I spend the evening? If you storm the Capitol, you can't change your vote.
Speaker 2:Wow, I got. I feel, like guys, that I got a taste of Manimal.
Speaker 3:No, but I don't need any more of it because that's all you got.
Speaker 2:But I don't feel like I got a full mouth load and you don't need it.
Speaker 4:You need more rape. Is that what you need?
Speaker 1:You're voting yes for rape.
Speaker 3:Is that your voting yes for rape?
Speaker 1:That's a word understanding.
Speaker 2:So I think I'm going to make awkward boy great again. I think I'm going to Renew. Yes animal to episode two. We are going to find a stand alone.
Speaker 4:You don't stand alone, I'm just in.
Speaker 3:No, you fucking made your choice. You lying, you bet you.
Speaker 4:I was trying to fuck off Tony.
Speaker 2:You lying, you were trying to what.
Speaker 4:Tony. Fuck off, tony. I don't know how to speak.
Speaker 3:It's OK, well, guys it's Jaguar I really think that we take you again one more time.
Speaker 2:Jaguar.
Speaker 4:So, you're thinking of that.
Speaker 2:You're thinking of Jabberwocky, jabberwocky.
Speaker 1:What? Oh no, I know from Alice in Wonderland yeah, there are bears.
Speaker 2:There are tigers, there are Mayans and they're Jaguar.
Speaker 3:You're horrible.
Speaker 2:Why are you? Don't be a dick.
Speaker 3:You like such a dick You're such a visceral reaction. I love you, I love you I love you too.
Speaker 2:I love all these awkward boys that are in front of me. All right well listener, thank you so much for listening. Please, please, please, please, please, review, share and like the show. It helps a ton. You can find us on Apple Podcasts, spotify, google Podcasts, iheartradio and anywhere where you enjoy podcasts. Don't forget you can call the show. Maybe we'll actually get a call from Kate at the most satanic and sensual of numbers.
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Speaker 2:You can text us there as well. Tell us what we're doing wrong. Inhale Satan. Our website awkwardboyshow, and our logo was created by Libby Creative. You can find more out at LibbyCreativecom. You can follow us on Twitter, although we don't post anything there at Awkward Podcast. Thank you so much too, dimitri Lifshits, for our music. You can find out more at soundrollcom and experience more Dimitri Lifshits, and I can't wait to experience more minimal with you, the intrepid listener, and my good friends. Very soon we're on to episode two and any last words. Everybody, it was Michael Jackson bitch. Nobody fucking cares.
Speaker 4:Happy 40th episode.
Speaker 2:Yeah, happy 40th, the most important day in human history. Number 40. Jason, fuck you. Fuck you Say what Fuck you Bye.
Speaker 3:Stay dry, awkwardboy fan, don't forget to tell your friends about us.
Speaker 4:Wait, people actually listen to this.