Healing Our Sight

Illuminated Healing: Exploring Red Light Therapy with Dr. Carl Rothschild

• Denise Allen • Season 2 • Episode 53

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In this illuminating episode, I am joined by Dr. Carl Rothschild—founder of Trifecta Light Technologies and a pioneer in red light therapy—to explore the exciting intersection of light and wellness. With over 40 years in holistic health and decades of innovation in LED therapeutic technology, Dr. Rothschild shares how red and near-infrared light can reduce pain, improve sleep, support brain health, and potentially enhance visual and neurological function.

We take a closer look at how red light therapy works at the cellular level, dispel common myths, and explore its practical applications for those navigating vision challenges, recovery from injury, and overall vitality.

🧠 What We Cover:

    • What red light therapy is and how it stimulates cellular energy (ATP)
    • The difference between red light and near-infrared light
    • How light affects not just the body, but potentially the visual and neurological systems
    • Myths about red light therapy—and why more isn’t always better
    • Real-world ways to incorporate red light therapy into daily wellness routines
    • Dr. Rothschild’s journey from chiropractic care to becoming a global innovator in LED healing technologies

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💬 Favorite Quote:

“We are light beings—we respond to light more than we even realize. When used properly, red light therapy can be a powerful ally for healing.” – Dr. Carl Rothschild

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Denise: This is the Healing Our Sight podcast where we discuss vision issues and healing strategies from the patient perspective.

The goal of this podcast is to create an awareness of the diverse types of vision issues people experience, to highlight the types of help available, and to open a dialogue between patients to show we're not alone in our vision struggles.

As a patient who gained 3D vision at age 54 through vision therapy combined with strabismus surgery, I feel uniquely qualified to offer a hopeful, balanced perspective on the possibilities.

Please use the link in the show notes to send me a message and thanks for joining me today.

Welcome to the Healing Our Sight podcast. I'm your host, Denise Allen. Today I'm very excited to introduce my guest, Dr. Carl Rothschild, who is a pioneer in red light therapy with over 40 years of experience in healthcare.

After decades as a chiropractor and clinic director In Los Angeles, Dr. Rothschild founded Trifecta Light to explore how red and near red light can support energy, healing and overall wellness.

He brings a grounded, science-based approach to one of today's most promising therapies. And I'm so excited to talk with him about how red light might even support visual and brain function.

So welcome today, Dr. Rothschild.

Dr. Rothschild: Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it.

Denise: Absolutely. Can you tell us a little bit more about how you decided to explore red light therapy?

Dr. Rothschild: Sure.

So I started in 1978 as a chiropractor and I was bit of a. I was my version of a hippie, so to speak. And my version was that money was not as important as I wanted to help people.

I know it sounds corny, but I don't mind making money. But if I only made money and didn't help people, it wouldn't work for me. And of course, if I only helped people and didn't make any money, that wouldn't be great either. But the fact that I can help a lot of people and also have a decent living, I appreciate that a lot.

So, I became a chiropractor, and my goal was to help as many people as I possibly can. I've had 12 practices, but about 26 something years ago, when very few people were doing it, I was introduced to red light therapy and I'm considered sort of a pioneer in the industry.

And in fact, I wrote this book here, but they can't see it if they're not seeing it video. But it's called Illuminated Healing. I don't make any money from it, but it's on Amazon, it's called again Illuminated Healing and it's actually a good read, at any rate. And I was introduced to red light therapy with the notion that maybe it could help. But we knew one thing for sure, that it could not hurt.

And sure enough, I was starting to. I mean, it revolutionized my practice. I was starting to be able to help people with things I never dreamt of before, including just about any ailment physical, I should say.

Like someone came in with a ripped Achilles tendon that normally we would just have to send for surgery. And we did get a surgical consult, but before the surgery actually was needed, we were able to heal that ripped Achilles tendon. And then this person had a kidney problem, and. And he said, can you help my kidney? Now? Believe me, I know it's not in my wheelhouse. It's not. I'm a chiropractor, so it's not really part of my domain of becoming a kidney expert, so to speak. But we helped the guy's kidney. What can I tell you?

This lady had a gum disease. And we helped them as well. And then about 13 years ago, it was discovered that there was an element of red light that actually helped with weight loss.

And I said, whoa, wait a minute, because I know that's a tough one. And if you could do it in a natural, healing, healthy way,

I wanted to get on board. So even in a bigger way. So, I got involved with manufacturing, and we were making devices. We were involved with lasers, and we were involved with pads, and we were involved with different things that helped with healing, but also with fat loss.

But then Covid hit, and our practitioner wanted less physical contact between the patient and the provider. And we came up with the bed, because with the bed, you don't need staff. The person gets in and out of bed themselves. And we just thought it would be a nice substitute for what we were doing up to that point.

Little did we know that what we learned is that when you bathe the entire body at the same time, you will get unbelievable results.

So, in the past, as I said, I might use a laser on a shoulder or on a TMJ problem or something like that, but now we're covering the entire body, and within a short period of time of us having delivered our first series of beds, we were getting feedback that was startling is the only word I can use.

So this guy, for example, had Parkinson's, and it wasn't our idea. We just said, well, we just know one thing. It couldn't hurt, so why not try it? And it helped him tremendously. And this guy had Charcot Marie tooth disease, which is a rare hereditary autoimmune disease. So, he couldn't walk comfortably, and he was in pain every day. And after six visits, he's interviewed and he looks at the person that's interviewing him and he says, thank you for giving me my life back.

And that's when it hit me. That's why I became a chiropractor in 1978, because I wanted to help people. And now more than ever, I'm hearing thank you for giving me my life back.

What else? What could be better than that? And so, this guy's walking, he's on a treadmill, and this other guy's contacts us, and he's having a heart attack once a week. Had you ever heard of that? No, I had never heard of that. And they had implanted a defibrillator in his chest like 13 years prior.

So, he was having hundreds of heart attacks in that period of time, and he was dying. His heart was, I think it was about to give out, to be honest with you. And so he contacted one of our providers and said, would you try? Can you help me? And the provider called me up and I said, look, let's just treat him for five minutes and stay in the room the whole time, because we know one thing for sure, you couldn't hurt, so let's try it.

And that patient went home that night after that one five-minute treatment. Normally a treatment is 12 minutes. Went home after that one five-minute treatment, and that was nearly two years ago. Has not had a heart attack since. He's had more treatment, but no more heart attacks.

And everything's come back to life. Everything. You know, he was dying. Every organ and gland, his energy, everything was gone. And it's all he would say. It's like he says, my energy is through the roof.

That's his exact phrase that he would use. And just how grateful he was that he has a new life. And that's what we're hearing again and again whether it's Lyme disease or shingles or whatever.

So now let's talk about the eye. Well, we'll talk about the eye in a moment. I just wanted to point out something.

Denise: Yeah.

Dr. Rothschild: Is it well known where you are right now?

Denise: I don't know that I've talked with anyone in, in healthcare to be able to know whether it's well known, but I, I would guess it's not.

Dr. Rothschild: Well, let me tell you something. Many of the technology, much of technology out there was started in, in the United States and then taken by other countries and Duplicated and actually stolen. Right.

This is one of those rare opposite. Where it was developed and guess where?

Denise: Probably in China. Yeah. Okay.

Dr. Rothschild: So the technology was actually, and I'll tell you why, in countries that medicine is not about a. A profit center. It's not all about making as much money as you can.

And, and the United States is not like that at all. It's about making as much money as you can. The whole healing industry is geared towards, you know, almost everyone in the medical profession is going to be a multimillionaire.

That's, that's the goal, I think, for them. And this is why the new administration. I'm not going to get political here, but there is a leaning with RFK Jr to look towards maybe less of the profit issue and more healing, more people.

Denise: Right.

Dr. Rothschild: Well, red light's all about that, to be honest with you. It's not about doing surgery or drugs. I mean, sometimes you do have to do it, no matter what. Nothing else will help, but it's about a great, beautiful, natural alternative.

So, China actually started the whole thing, and we brought it here. The doctor who brought it here, got the FDA clearance was Chadwick Smith. And I knew him before he was involved with red light therapy. And thank God I knew him because he's the one that convinced me to shine a light on somebody and it's going to make a difference.

Now in the back of my mind, believe me, I'm thinking, he's crazy, right? Okay, I'm going to shine a light on somebody and it's going to make a big difference. I did not believe it and little did I realize that not only, you know, so we took it on to try it out, and as I said, it revolutionized my practice, but, you know, it's taken over my world.

I mean, this is all I think about in the world of healing and stuff. I mean, I love being a chiropractor, but, you know, there's a lot of controversy around chiropractic, and I don't want to go through all those reasons, but there's none with red light therapy. So, it's a real pleasure that I don't have to deal with, you know, different professionals who think I'm a quack because of it or whatever.

And, and it's lovely and it's so easy to get in and out of the bed. I have one here in my home, and I'm 72 years old, and I tell my patients, it's not about not getting older. It's going to happen. It's about trying to age gracefully. It's like a candle that burns bright from the beginning, all the ways to the end, and then sputters out and dies.

Instead of spending the last 20 years of someone's life in a wheelchair, a burden on society. They can't feed themselves; they can't wipe themselves; they can't bathe themselves.

And I don't want that. I never wanted that. So, I've always taken pretty decent care of myself and staying away from the obvious things that will do anybody in right.

In fact, I tell everybody the reason why most people are not the ones who don't take care of themselves is because they're not scared enough.

They don't know what they're doing to themselves today, how it's going to pan out when they're 40, 70 or 80 years old. I used to teach a class. Will you be dancing when you're 75?

I had to change it to 70 because no one believed they were going to be dancing at 75. And the truth of the matter is there's a lot of people who just don't take care of themselves because they're living for today. But the truth of the matter is that's not true. You're living for today, but you're also living what kind of future you're going to have.

At any rate, that was the story about China and how we took it here. We did the opposite of what China normally does, is take our technology and bring it there. We took their technology, brought it here, and it has been unbelievable. But like I said, by building the bed and bathing the whole body, one of the things that we do is people ask, well, should they keep, you know, should they wear goggles when they get in the bed?

And I tell you, if you do that, you won't get all this glorious, beautiful energy into the eye. And so instead, if I'm telling you that it can get through the skull and get to the brain and it can get through any tissue and get deep into your tissues, then you know it can get through the eyelid. So, you just would keep your eyes closed when you get into bed, and you could open your eyes. It's not radiation, not any of that stuff that people fear, but it's a very bright light and it can give you a headache,

I suppose, if you leave it open the whole time. I leave my eyes open from time to time just for the. But it. But knowing that it's not going to be able to hurt me. But it's something that you acclimate to. At any rate, let me give you some examples.

Denise: Okay.

Dr. Rothschild: We have a lady that had uveitis. Now normally the pressure in in the eye is somewhere between 10 and 12. And her pressure was 180.

Denise: Wow.

Dr. Rothschild: And these are millimeters of mercury, but it's just like a temperature. But instead, we're taking pressure and the pressure again in her eye was 180.

And the treatment for that was an injection once a month, right in her eye. And I asked her how, what's that, what was that like? And she said Horrible. Horrific.

Denise: Yeah.

Dr. Rothschild: And she also had to take drops and the drops alone, the co-pay for the drops were $400 a month. The injections are $5,000 a month. I don't know how much I'll copay on the $5,000 injections, but the copay on the, the medication was $400 a month and she doesn't need that anymore.

Her pressure has now gone back from 180, is now normal. It's around 10 to 12 now. Did we expect that? Not really. All we knew is we couldn't hurt, right? Yeah. And we tried it.

Denise: So, is she coming into the office for that treatment then or did she buy a bed to use at home?

Dr. Rothschild: No, no, she was getting. No. There's two kinds of people. There's people that have more money than health and they buy the bed. But you know, the average person, you know, it's not inexpensive. These are medical grade high end pieces of equipment.

Denise: Right.

Dr. Rothschild: That costs about fourteen hundred dollars a month to lease.

So, most people who have the money will do it. But most of the people are businesses that buy it to build their business. And it's a great way to build a business.

And fourteen hundred dollars is this very simple thing to make back.

Most of our doctors and professionals are making at least 10 times return on investment. At any rate, getting back to the eye floaters in the eye, we've seen that almost within two weeks those are gone.

Cataracts. We already talked about uveitis, but glaucoma is in the same category. And so we're seeing phenomenal results with the eye.

Denise: Now what about macular degeneration? Is that something you.

Dr. Rothschild: Macular edema, macular degeneration. Great results with those as well. So, people are about to lose their eyesight and now they're not. We had a guy that had Lieber's hereditary optic neuropathy. I never heard of that before.

Denise: Right.

Dr. Rothschild: It's. There's a whole community called lhon community. And these are people that essentially have Multiple sclerosis of the retina. And they're going, they're going to go blind. There's no question you're going to go blind with that. Because what it's doing is it's eating away the retina, very similar to multiple sclerosis, which eats away nervous tissue.

And similarly, if you get in a full body bed with multiple sclerosis, it will halt the progression of the multiple sclerosis, most likely. Again, what's the worst that will happen is nothing.

I tell people it's three times a week for two weeks, that's six visits. And then report back to your professional and tell them this is where you were and here's where you are now. Did it make a change? Did it help you? And most likely it will help.

You might need a lot more treatment or not, but at least you'll have seeing that it can make a difference whether it's Parkinson's or dementia, Alzheimer's, multiple sclerosis. I mean, you could just look these things up. And I'm going to tell you an easy thing to do is to just go to Google Scholar.

Denise: Okay.

Dr. Rothschild: Have I mentioned Google Scholar to you before? Are you familiar?

Denise: You sent me some. Yeah, you sent me some stuff earlier when we were discussing the episode where you found a bunch of studies on Google Scholar.

Dr. Rothschild: Regarding. So if you go to Google Scholar and put in the word red light therapy, I wonder if it would surprise you to find out that there would be three and a half, over three and a half million entries. That's double-blind studies, research papers, articles and whatnot.

Now, not all of it's extremely pertinent, but three and a half million, you're going to get a lot of studies that could help you. And then you would put in whatever the studies that you want to go up.

So, you put red light therapy and lupus or red-light therapy and some of the words that you use. What would you put in there?

Denise: Red light therapy and strabismus or ambrosia.

Dr. Rothschild: This is not. Doesn't slip off, you know, easily off my tongue.

You just put those in there. And I think you'd be surprised pleasantly that you would see how research has been done on all these things. And like I said, if it was something that had any potential of side effects, you know, I would be concerned, but I'm not.

You couldn't hurt. In the 50 years they've studied this technology, there's never been a recorded side effect.

Denise: Wow.

Dr. Rothschild: So I just want to go over how it works and why it works.

Denise: Absolutely.

Dr. Rothschild: Unless you have a question?

Denise: Well, that's what I was going to ask you. Just explain a little bit more about how red light therapy works, because I don't think that it's very well understood.

Dr. Rothschild: It's not. And again, that's why I wrote the book, and I do recommend you get that. But, yeah, and I don't make any money, if I haven't already said that. I'll make a dime from it. But. So now, how does it work? So, it was discovered and started working on NASA started working on it, but other scientists also, about 50 years ago, give or take, and they coined that phrase photo biomodulation. So, photo means light, bio means tissue, and modulation means it does something. So, it's just talking about how light can affect your tissues.

And of course, they were using equipment that was very subtle back. You know, it was a state of the art at the time, but a fraction of the power of what we can do now.

Denise: Right.

Dr. Rothschild: But what they discovered was that with all these changes and whatever, the direction always was about the mitochondria.

So, you know, your body's made up of tissues, and your tissues are all made up of cells, and every cell has mitochondria.

Now, when I went to school, I was taught there was one mitochondria in every cell, and that's not true. So, for example, the heart,

which has the highest demand for energy. And I'm going to go over what the mitochondria is about in a second, but you can take a hint that it's about energy.

The heart has the highest demand for energy, and it has the. The average heart cell has over 5,000 mitochondria in each one of them.

Denise: Wow.

Dr. Rothschild: So that mitochondrial. The mitochondrial tissue makes up 10% of your body weight. Nobody knew that until more recently.

Denise: Mm.

Dr. Rothschild: And so can you imagine how important and prevalent the mitochondria are? So what's that about? As people get older, as they get sickly, there's always a mitochondrial, what they call mitochondrial dysfunction, where the mitochondria is not doing its job. The mitochondria's existence is the reason why you and I breathe oxygen and eat food.

It produces the energy currency of the body called ATP. What that means is that the ATP is what gets your body to function. It gives your energy not only to do all the things that you and I are doing, but also to heal.

So, if you have mitochondria dysfunction, your body is going to start falling apart. It goes disease, death. And if you can get your mitochondrial back in shape, you can Reverse that. And that's what this is all about. But they still weren't positive how it worked until they discovered that there are elements in the body similar to plants that have elements that are stimulated by the sun or affected by the sun called chromophores.

We have those in our body as well. In fact, plants have mitochondria and they are stimulated to create the energy in a plant. So maybe somebody, you know, I could tell, jokes about how, you know, they did the plant and then they, they couldn't figure out. Anyhow, I'm not gonna get religious and we're not religious here, but I can just tell you, and I'm a wise guy from New York, so forgive me, I joke around sometimes.

But what they found was that there was an enzyme hidden in the wall of each of the mitochondria called cytochrome C oxidase. Cytochrome C oxidase. And it's a chromophore, meaning that it's stimulated by sunlight. And what does it do?

It stimulates your mitochondria to come back to life. Okay, so what I'm saying to you is that this whole conversation I'm having with you is essentially about sunlight, but only the glorious, wonderful elements of sunlight. Not UV light, not blue light that can screw up someone's circadian rhythm. It's about red and near infrared light.

In fact, if I may tell you, there's a word called infrared. And probably everyone's heard that word, but there's no such word of just infrared. It's either far infrared or near infrared. Now, far infrared is a fancy way of getting deep penetrating heat, which is nice, it feels nice, but you're not going to make any long-term cellular changes. Near infrared is the one that does that.

And when it first came out, near infrared was, interestingly so that it was. We called it cold, like cold laser or cold light therapy, things like that. Not that it was literally cold, but it didn't get hot, okay?

And so that's the essence. If you're going to be working with equipment that's high grade, high medical grade, that you want to make sure that the lights don't get hot. Very powerful without heat.

That's the essence. And that's what costs more money than the junk that they're selling on Amazon and stuff like that. At any rate, to move right along, you stimulate the cytochrome C oxidase, you stimulate the mitochondria, you create the ATP that brings the body back to life.

And that works in every tissue of Your body now, it only works on the tissues that the, that the effect is going to be noticed when the body recognizes there's a problem. So, an example of this is a freckle.

Someone says, well, it's going to affect the freckle. No, the body doesn't recognize a freckle as a disease or an illness or anything like that. So, it's not going to attack a freckle.

But if it was an infection or inflammation or any disease process or sprain, strain, any kind of thing like that, then it will very much affect that. As a chiropractor, one thing we learned was to remove the interference and then get out of the way.

What that means is that we recognize that the body has its own innate intelligence that will, that does the things that are needed. We don't sit there and go, you know, okay, now heal this wound and, and now bring the white blood cells and now the fibrin, fibrinogen or anything.

We don't do that, right. What we do is we correct it as much as we can. Just like if someone breaks an arm, they're going to align that, if it's not aligned properly, set it and then run away and let the body heal it. But in some diseases, there are doctors out there that think it's their job to intervene and they sometimes, if not often, make it worse, get the body in a better position so it can heal itself. That's what this is all about. And that's what the sun does. And that's what we've done, is we've taken four elements of sunlight, two wavelengths of red light, two wavelengths of near infrared, integrated them together, magnifying them a lot, and drive it into someone's body and then run away and pray. And that's what we did, was like we throw in all this beautiful energy and get surprised. Almost every day someone will call us up and say, you didn't tell me it could help this or that.

Or we had a guy that had Lyme disease, he contracted when he was 12 and it ruined his childhood, it ruined his education and social life, and of course it ruined his possibility of a career. And then he's in his 50s and he decides he's going to try full body red light bed, and that's ours. And he gets out of the bed after the first that 12-minute dose and is goes, this didn't do anything. And he just dismisses it as a bunch of hooey.

But five hours later and ever since, it's totally changed his life. So, I'm going to be sending you these videos and if any of you, any of you out there want them, I'm assuming that you'll be able to get it to them.

Watch these videos because they're.     That's what really should.

I'm the kind of person, if I see that it's going to rock your world. I mean, I'm the one interviewing most of these people. And it rocked my world when I talked to Arnett that was having the regular heart attacks or I talked to Jessica who had 16 horrific things, including the uveitis that we described, but psoriasis and three forms of psoriasis and shingles and Lyme disease and just a whole bunch of stuff and they were all gone.

I didn't expect that. I didn't know that it was going to be that effective all the time. All you do. suggest each of you go to the website trifecta light.com and look there. You'll see, find a location closest to you. One of our professionals will find the closest location to you.

So, you can try it. Try six visits, that's three times a week for two weeks, 12 minutes a dose and see what happens to you. And if you don't see any difference, which I think has never happened, the only reason I'm thinking that would happen is that the doctor forgot to plug the bed in.

I don't know what else, because after six visits there are very few things we haven't seen some results with. You know, some people have such tragic, horrific problems. It could take a year maybe, but it's worth it.

That or spend the rest of your life suffering. I'll. I'll do whatever it takes to stay healthy. And people don't realize what it costs to be sick. You have no idea what it costs to be sick if you've never been sick.

Hospital stays, the drugs and everything like that. And yes, insurance covers some of it, but not all of it. And not only that, you miss work, you miss playing with your kids or being with your grandchildren or whatever.

Being sick is a very expensive thing.

Denise: Yeah, it is. Can we back up just a little bit though and tell me a little bit about how the Trifecta Light Systems differ from what people are usually exposed to. Maybe a do-it-yourself kind of version or a home red light tool or something that someone else is providing in their office. That's maybe not the bed, but something that's more like what you used to do.

Dr. Rothschild: Well, until we made the bed, I thought we had the top of the line.

Greatest thing and then we realized that you really need to if, you know, I don't have an objection to a face mask or a helmet or anything like that. But you're not going to get these glorious changes until you do full body.

At the same time, you have to bathe whatever bed you're going to recommend. I'm not here to just to discuss that. Here's what I'm going to tell you. The first thing you want to look at is lights that are very strong, that don't get hot.

That's the most important thing. And the ability to customize the treatment so that a person who's 80 pounds doesn't get the same dose. Who someone who's 400 pounds. A 400 pounder can absorb a lot of this energy without it getting hot.

Now why is heat a problem? Heat dilates blood vessels, brings more fluid to the surface. That's why your back or front will turn red. And that would block the penetration of the light. And it's self defeating.

That's why we called it cold laser. In the past we were trying to be under the radar as far as the body is concerned. The body didn't know what was going on.

So we can get deeper penetration. Once you lid onto the body, that thing's happening and it does dilate more blood vessels and bring more fluid to the surface, you're going to not be able to penetrate very deep.

We won't have as great a result. So you want the highest grade, highest medical grade lights that can be very strong without being hot, but are customizable. So you have an 80 pounder not getting the same dose as a 400 pounder.

Also, the ability to pulse the wave is a really beautiful thing. If you've heard of resonating frequencies or frequency healing or anything like that, different tissues in your body resonate with different frequencies.

And so my favorite frequency that we start off with is 528 hertz. So if you were to go on Google and put in 528Hz Hz and then put maybe the word healing energy after that,

you'll see all kinds of articles, videos and forms and things like that about the glory of 528Hz. It's the universal healing energy. But it's also what John Lennon apparently used to write the word, the song, Imagine. But what we go through is we train the people on how to use the bed properly.

Another feature that you want is that you want the lights as close to the body as possible. As you come away from the body, you lose power Exponentially. So, when you have equipment that's a lower grade and gets hot, you can't have it as close to the body as we'd like it to be with our device.

It comes right onto the person's body and that's an important factor. So high grade, high medical grade lights, lights that come close to the body. Customizable. So, you can change the settings for the person who.

Based on their condition as well as their size. Those are the three main features. There are others, but those are the main things that are involved with our bed. I'm not.

I just want to tell you that we include all the training and 32 things actually with the purchase but end of that.

Denise: Okay.

Dr. Rothschild: Anything. Now, I do recommend, if people want to learn more about red light therapy, also go to the YouTube channel. So, if you go to YouTube and put in Trifecta Light Official,

there's over a hundred videos and they're not sales. I mean, they're beautiful, beautiful educational videos. They're wonderful. And I'm very proud of that YouTube channel.

And yes, I've created some of the raw material, but I have people that know what they're doing to make it really look beautiful.

Denise: So, the videos that you alluded to earlier, are they on that YouTube channel? So, people could just go there?

Dr. Rothschild: They're not.

Denise: They're not.

Dr. Rothschild: I'm going to send those to you. Some of them are on there. I'm sorry, Some of them on there. You see, it's an interesting thing. I'm just reporting the news in my mind when I tell you that so and so had a kidney problem and now they don't.

To me, I'm reporting the news, but some people out there think that I'm making claims that I shouldn't make. So I can't put it on the website. And it might not be on the YouTube channel that way, but I'm just sending raw video that a person, this is what they said.

What am I supposed to say? You know, this woman had stage four renal failure. She was about to go into need dialysis. And after a month of treatment, her kidneys are perfect. Perfect. Now everybody says often they'll say, well, do I need to continue once I've reached my goal, whether it's kidneys or liver or thyroid or whatever.

And the truth of the matter is that taking care of yourself is a lifetime endeavor. It's not something that you just do it when you're sick. You want to do it so you don't get sick.

Denise: Yeah.

Dr. Rothschild: So we people typically go on maintenance right after the program. And that could be once a month. It shouldn't surprise. Brush your teeth once a year. You're going to take care of yourself regularly because you do, you know, you want to keep your teeth and it's painful not to, you know,

to go through the cavities and all that stuff. Well, it's similar with the rest of your wellbeing and health. The dentists were really good about doing that. And the rest of the medical profession, not so good about teaching people how to maintain their well being and health.

Denise: Right. As far as the practitioners go, do they tend to be chiropractors that buy these types of beds or what types of people are we looking for when we look for this kind of therapy?

Dr. Rothschild: It's the entire fitness industry, health industry, beauty industry, mental health industry, and athletes are great. If you're an athlete and you want to be competitive and you want to run further with more stamina, then you want to use red light therapy.

And if you have the money, you get one of these things and you use it in the morning and then do your routine. We worked with the Olympic Training center for track and field in the Pacific Northwest and I interviewed them.

In fact, one of the videos I'm going to send you is with Chloe Cunliffe, who's a professional pole vaulter. And they get in the bed in the morning or the whole team would get in the.

Not together at the same time. They would get in the bed early in the day and then their activity that day would be easier, better, less chance of injuring themselves.

And then they get in the bed again in the evening to recover from that. And when they wake up the next morning, normally that eight out, they're professional athletes. That eight-hour exercise routine that they go through would be so exhausting the next day they'd have to drag themselves out of bed.

And when we use the red-light bed, that doesn't happen the next day. They, they as they described, they wake up fresh as a daisy.

So, an athlete, if they're serious, it's why we have NBA teams that have our bed. As I said, we had the Olympic track and field. We have two major athletic centers in Florida that have the bed.

And it's going to grow, you know, as, as the word gets out there.

Just like chiropractic grew. When I started, I was one of two or three chiropractors in my area. And when I retired from active treatment, there were about 100 chiropractors in the same area.

That's how chiropractic grew, and red-light therapy has grown even, I think even more. And it's been just amazing. But the danger is the **** that's out there that people are buying.

I'm not objecting to local treatment, that's fine. But they're buying stuff that's such junk that what happens is they try it, they use it, they don't see a difference, and they say, ah, this whole red light therapy sucks.

The truth of the matter is they didn't really try the right stuff. So, you want to get to a facility that has this and try it for six visits and see what we're talking about?

Denise: Okay. I'm just wondering, did you have something that was in that lower price point before where it was just the application? Let's just say, uh, someone wants it just for their eyes.

Is there an application for that that's short of buying the whole bed?

Dr. Rothschild: There is no such thing as just for your eyes. As a holistic practitioner, again, I'm not suggesting everyone needs to buy this bed, but they do need to use something like this, a full body, even if it's just their eyes, because the eyes are not just the eyes.

As a whole holistic practitioner and you come up with an elbow problem. If you think I'm only going to be looking at your elbow, you're wrong. I'm going to make sure your entire spine is good, and the rest of your body is good and the elbow will recover much faster and stay that way much longer.

So I don't have an objection to someone getting the equipment if they want to, but if you want the true full value, I liken it to an MRI, I'm not suggesting everyone buy an MRI to have in their back room.

So, the kids, when they need an MRI, they have you go to an MRI center. Well, in this case, you go to a red-light center and you get the treatment that is the highest grade and, and really experience what you need. Okay, then after having six visits, then you can respond.

Denise: Yeah, well, I'm asking the questions because I know that these are the questions that will come up with my listeners. You know, where they're saying, well, how does this work? How can I access it easily?

You know, what's the difference between this and those more targeted applications and that. I think we've kind of answered those questions at this point. Based on how you've described the way that this bed for infrared works, is that fair to say?

Dr. Rothschild: I could manufacture anything. I could manufacture all those types of pieces of equipment and I don't. I just want the best. And so, I don't want to have somebody get a lesser valued product. So, we only make the Pro 450.

We made the 100. It was great until we made the 200, which was great until we made the 300, then the 400, now the 450. And within the 450, this is at least the fifth rendition of it where we've improved it, changed it, modified it even more so.

And as the world of technology grows, that's what happens. It gets better. I mean, I'm sure people have iPhones, and I'll bet they have a newer iPhone because having the older one will not allow them to do what the newer phones can do. And so that's the same thing with these red-light beds. My suggestion is to have the best to get the most effectiveness.

Denise: Okay. Yeah. So, if someone's looking for the best red-light therapy, then they would find someone who has your bed available in their practice or whatever.

Dr. Rothschild: They go to trisectthelight.com right on the homepage. It says, you want to find a. A bed nearest you. And then they click on it and just fill in their zip code. And one of our staff members will get them the closest location for them.

Denise: Okay.

Dr. Rothschild: Try it. It's.

Denise: Yeah.

Dr. Rothschild: There's no, you know, there's no downside to it. The worst that'll happen is nothing. And the upside is unbelievable. Just unbelievable.

Denise: Yeah. Anyhow, sounds good.

Dr. Rothschild: It was fun. I want you to make sure that you work on that WI fi over there.

Denise: I wish I could work.

Dr. Rothschild: Have a great. I would love to ask you, how's the Chinese food? Is it good over there?

Denise: It's amazing. Yeah. And it's totally different than what you think Chinese food is. It's just like in the United States.

Dr. Rothschild: Are you telling me when I go to Chinatown and when I go to Chinatown in New York, you're telling me that that's not Chinese food?

Denise: Well, it's a version of Chinese food, but China is as big as the United States, so it's like saying that the food in South Dakota is the same as the food in.

Dr. Rothschild: You got Sichuan, you got Cantonese, and you got. I get that. I like Chinese food. My wife doesn't. So we don't have it as much as I would like to have it.

At any rate, with that said, have a wonderful evening.

I hope it gave you enough information to be helpful.

Denise: Absolutely.

Dr. Rothschild: If people are out there, you know, maybe they'll. They'll see the like and experience what I have experienced this is great success.

Denise: Awesome.

Dr. Rothschild: Thank you so much for entertaining me. And we'll talk again some other time, okay?

Denise: Yeah, absolutely.