The SeeArts Podcast #13 🚀🎭 Creating Your Moment with Guilio Scatola 🕺🏾🔥

This episode is a real treat in these uncertain times. Guilio found ways to stay creative and productive during the pandemic and shares deep insights into his thriving way of becoming dancer, singer, choreographer and currently a world renowned creative director with a focus for the details. What an inspiring conversation with open sharing about what the arts mean to him, how he stays motivated, 6 month work and 6 month creative-offs and so much more.
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More Info about Guilio Scatola:
Guilio is an internationally recognized Dancer, Singer & Actor, Giulio has been directing and choreographing shows since 2004. From 2008 till 2012 Giulio worked for Cirque du Soleil as the Original Artistic Specialist and Casting Advisor for all resident shows in the USA and Asia ( encompassing 12 shows) He was featured in the Documentary “How to get into Cirque” and created the original short dance movie “Liquid Sunshine” for One Drop Charity Event in 2012.In 2013 Giulio decided to venture into the Club and Casino/Resort Industry and created original productions for Cipriani’s Downtown and Destino PACHA (both in Ibiza). The following year he Choreographed Dolly Parton’s Dinner Show “Pirates Voyage”. In 2016 Giulio worked as Creative Director & Choreographer for the Multi-Billion dollar project OKADA Manila, one of the grandest Integrated Resort in the world, featuring the biggest Beach 
Club/nightclub in the world Cove Manila. In 2019 and 2020 Giulio was hired as Artistic Director & Choreographer for the High End Turkish Resorts MaxxRoyal. His creations have won various local awards and have also been featured in famous TV programs such as SYTYCD, Britain’s Got Talent & America’s Got Talent, as well as on Vogue Italian Magazine. 
Major productions include:  Best Of Musical Gala Tour (Europe-Stage Entertainment), FIFA Presidential Election (Morocco), Peugeot Rimini Art Festival (Italy), The Beauty Of Magic (Las Vegas - Stage Entertainment), The Night Sun (Ibiza -Cipriani Dinner Theatre), Glow – Fossiana – The Who’s Tommy – Jeckyll & Hyde – Take Off With Us –Gotta Dance (Rag Tag Entertainment & The Hand Company – Las Vegas).

Transcript

Fabian Seewald: 0:00

So welcome everybody to a new episode of the SeeArts podcast today. I'm so excited to catch up again with Guilio. We've met around five years ago in Vegas and had a nice cup of coffee in the Venetian. And well currently, Guilio is back in Vegas. And I'm excited. Well, who is Guilio? Guiliois a multi talented performer, a singer, a dancer. Originally, he's from Rome, but found a creative home in the city of entertainment in Las Vegas, but he has performed all over the globe. And today, he brings his artistic vision onto the biggest stages on Earth, but as well he works as a teacher and teaches artists from soup to slay and high class production. So a big welcome to Guilio, thanks so much for taking the time and joining. Thank you so

Guilio: 0:42

Thank you for the wonderful introduction. humbles me Thank you.

Fabian Seewald: 0:48

Well, to dive into, we always want to get to know you a little bit better. And tell us a little bit like how did you grow up? How did you get into the arts? What were these inflection points on the way of becoming Guilio?

Guilio: 1:01

Well, so always said, right, that one of the first thing that really is fascinating, as far as hearing about myself, is that my mom always said that actually danced before I even walked. Why does she was bragging that she kept from feeling this, you know, this person moving and beating and so she always thought, okay, there's something about the my son that is just, you know, do the kettle, keep steel. And, and there's always been my life, I never was able to be steel this day. So when I first started, I mean, actually started pretty late, let's say because I started dancing when I was 13 years old. And the reason is that I actually grew up in a very conservative family. My father was a very hard man and very conservative. So when he son said, you know, Dad, I want to dance, he wouldn't have it. And he would know, let me do it. So actually, I started with karate, which funnily enough, it's been a great thing for myself, I actually am a big fan of martial arts and, and something that has shaped my career. Because through those arts, I've learned so much I learned about balance, focus, and strength and bridge, discipline and respect. Something that I always think is to be in everybody's discipline. And I loved I loved karate, I actually became a black belt, after five years. And after that, Ben kept on pushing my dad saying, but I want to dance now I've done karate, my sister, that moment was doing gymnastics. She's, she's, she was actually an Italian champion of artistic gymnastics. So started doing some gymnastics with her, and then macrobiotics. And then, little by little, I went into the dance class, right, almost like my dad didn't even notice too much. But then I went to a dance studio in Rome, which was pretty known. And the course would have been normally 10 years to get a diploma. But I got my diploma in three years. So I was very, I loved it, I loved it so much, I could not stop dancing, right? I had to go there every single day, I was really, I had to do it was something in me that I, you know, just couldn't control. And after, after that my dad, you know, of course, he was a very hard man. But then it was a very proud man, he saw that his son was doing something that he was good at and was successful. I started working a little bit on television, but only with, let's say, with still be able to continue my studies, I was doing languages in High School of Languages. So the deal with my family was that I could still work, I could work but I need to finish my study, which is very good. It's important. And I'm very glad I did that. So I got my diploma in languages while I was still working. And then as soon as I got my diploma, I decided to leave Italy. Less even my dance teachers, my vocal teachers said to me, your success, your future is not in this country. You need to leave. You need to go to Germany or Switzerland. You need to do those studies there because they're great companies, great academies. So I decided to audition for Maurice Bazar. Who was one of my favorite all time favorite. still one of the best choreographers ever and he had the academy Luzon, Bishop for the Academy, and it took me so moved to Luzon as soon as I finished my study needles. From there, I went to New York. Anyway, but my life is really long.

Unknown: 5:07

It's so anyway, I've studied a lot of different disciplines through mozar. And from singing to martial arts kendo for two years, all kinds of dancing. The Singing was started to come up something I really, really love doing the singing and acting. So once I've got my scholarship in New York with David Howard, I started to look for musical theater, something that will combine everything right, the dancing, the singing, the acting, audition for musicals, and these are for some musicals in New York. But both of these musicals which will start expressing cats were performed in Germany. So yeah, I did the audition. Now, that took me I started my career in musical theater. I did 12 different musicals throughout my career. And then once I started working in the musical theater, I became aware of the fact that I really like to be also creating something on stage. So through improvisation and acting experiences, so starting assistant choreographer or study assistant directors, I started becoming like a dance Capitan associate, so I did my, you know, my kind of, like, course, my path, right. And then after that, I decided that I wanted to be on the other side to start choreographing and start directing. So from musical theater, I went to different kinds of shows, cover shows, and eventually came to Vegas with a magic show, as a resident director and resident, choreographer, the city of course of surgery silay, and I want to see Oh, which was my very first search show, and it just blew my mind. And as everything else in my career said, You know, I have always a bucket list, right? So for me was checking the list dama musical theater, a double Dance Company, this is great. This is new circus. So you will have thought the circus could be like that, right? Because in those days, I only thought of circus with animals, and you never thought of this artistic, you know, expression of, you know, pure vitality and just freedom and just so beautiful. So I said this, I want to do this. And yeah, I the, the Should I was doing went back to Europe, but I stayed in Vegas. And at that moment, they were opening the first surgery select office in Vegas, and they they were looking for my position, which was the RTC specialist and advisor for all the rest of the shows, went through all the additions, interviews, and I got the job. And that started my life with a circus. And se and after that I left circa one point after almost four years being with them. I wanted to do my own things. I learned so much through them. I mean, I was the artist especially So of all the Cirque styles, so from acrobatics, to acting, to aerial to clowning to dancing, singing music, it was just such a eye opener like I it was, it was a great, great experience. And we open so many doors for me that I took that in as a background and started to do my own things, my own shows and sharing my experience and creating new work. So that's in a nutshell.

Fabian Seewald: 8:44

Well, what a journey from Karate Kid overnight dancing musical theater.

Unknown: 8:49

Exactly. broker advocate. Yeah, it's, it's funny, right? So that's what life puts in front of you. It's, and sometimes we think, like, really, I'm in karate, but then I'm like, Yeah, actually, it helps

Fabian Seewald: 9:04

so much. But you're in this realm, like the discipline in the end. It's a lot about discipline to the simplicity.

Unknown: 9:11

flexibility. Yeah. Yeah, it's Yeah, sometimes Yeah. Crazy.

Fabian Seewald: 9:19

How was this process of in a way leaving the stage to be directing? Like not acting anymore in a way but just was this a very hard decision? Or did you say like you You had every every box checked on the package and instead of key, the next thing is like, there's so much more that comes out of that can be expressive. Someone else's is telling you what to do. How is the Yes,

Unknown: 9:42

it was a it was very smooth actually. Because, I mean, there are a lot of people in my line of career they said from one day to your one stop dancing, that said, um, that for me was almost like, I felt like I was gave, not everything I could give you can always give more But what I wanted to give on stage was lucky enough to be in really beautiful stage and, and I was I had a solo career, so was really lucky to do that. And for me, it was more like, okay, now I like to instead of dancing somebody else's material, I like to dance my own material. Because I like that expression. And I've always been big in improvising, I like to go on stage not prepared, just known the music and just go with it. And, and I would like to, I like to do that on my own. So I did my own things. And when even when I was working for surger silay created a few pieces that occur and directed me choreographed and danced on stage for them. So that was a beautiful moment. And then at one point, I'm like, I would like for people to also be able to do this, you know, to express their, their ability to give them the structure. Because always say, when I when I create a piece, I always come 50% prepared because I want the other 50% to be very spontaneous, very, you know, with instinct now just to be prepared 100% you will, you will never grow. So it was it was really, for me like a very, very smooth, it just made sense. Of course, sometimes I look back and I miss the moments on stage, and I think ghosts will will always be with me, I don't think that can never be, you know, moment in life, how you know, the feeling of being on stage in front of an audience, they're close and giving everything right and feeling tired for giving everything is an amazing, amazing feeling. But then on the other side, being, you know, creating something that said on stage, it is a different kind of amazing to me, still very, very tiring. I like being always like being tired one, I want to give myself 100%. And that feeling is also very rewarding in a different way. So can, I could say was, um, I don't regret anything. I'm very glad I feel very blessed that I can do this. And I can share, you know, my experiences still go on. And now I'm still learning, I'm still learning, which is an amazing thing. And nobody can say, you know, if you ever stop learning, and more things will come I'm sure.

Fabian Seewald: 12:26

Well, I think it comes along with this improv mindset that you you stay hungry. While talking about improvisation, I think this year has been also a lot of pivoting a lot of like, the ability to improvise was so important because it's like such an uncertainty that we couldn't have expected. Tell us a little bit how did you experience this journey of the pandemic? In a way? How did you cope with it on the on the one hand cyber as well? How did you keep on being creative?

Unknown: 12:57

Well, I think probably I've been one of the few people in our business that I was able to still work during pandemic, because a, I was very, like I went I went to, to prepare for the show season in Turkey. I was working, I've been working for my three resorts for two years now. And I left in February. So at that moment, there was a rumor of the of the virus but nothing was certain right, so we all arrived in, in Turkey at the end of February, the whole cast. So we were ready. 30 people there, everybody was safe. Everybody didn't know have any centers because we didn't know about it. And then when we started knowing about it, they closed the resorts, but they kept us in the resort working. So all the guests were gone. But we were still there. So we were able to still create. And it was it was actually great because we were creating not having an opening date. Because they we didn't even know whether we were going to be able to even open the show seasons, but we had we needed to create five shows. So there was a lot of work ahead. So we decided to take our time and really keep working, creating new shows creating new acts. We're doing classes every day, every single person, every artist to give a class of one moment just to really not only me but to have different styles, different things. Even acrobats will give a class eralis very much Cirque du Soleil kind of atmosphere. People wanted to learn new new things new skill the could. So we were really able to go in details right so I was it was great. I mean it was weird. It was like you know you walk into this ghost of a resort it was nobody sheets all over the place covering the furniture but as working in, in, in the convention room and the you know the resort is in on the beach. So we were able to still go and do our walks on the beach was a great quarantine could only do I know, we could only do like resort and home, we were not able to go anywhere else. But we were within our little bubble. And we opened the shows in July instead of June. So we were delayed for not for a month and a half only. The shows open, we were barely safe. Everybody had you know, the rules, regulations, we mask we told the cast could only go there to the shows and go back home. And we're not a lot of guests at the beginning, maybe 40 or 50 guests. But then by the time the the season went on, there were more guests, and they finish the shows at the end of November. So I came back home in September because I wasn't you know, during that period, according even see my husband was supposed to come to visit me in Turkey from America, but I didn't see him for almost six months. And I said I need to go back home. I cannot. Anyway, contractually, I didn't have to stay the entire season. So I decided just to go and come back home. So I haven't been back there long have been back in September since then, is really about been, you know, connecting with people. It's important. I mean, life goes on so fast. And sometimes I just forget, you know, how important is to talk to people and to tell people you're there. And I haven't been able to do that. Often. You know, even talking to my family, I will talk to them once a week, once every two weeks because you can get you can get carried away by you know, since the COVID. I've been talking to them every day. And also my friends is so important. So I've been leaving the creative credit, creative part aside, I've been you know, relaxing and talking to people. And of course, here and there once I start doing my research and see what's gonna go, what's gonna be next. I started putting down on the sand and see what, what goes on. But I've been you know, I've been pushed, doing anything, I'm taking this time to be with my husband in my house and enjoy it. Especially because lately My life has been going away and taking different paths. And it's good to be still and recollect. Yeah,

Fabian Seewald: 17:24

I think it's well well deserved, after all, such a intensive creative creation in this creative because sometimes I feel this pandemic can also teach us sometimes if there is not so many distraction, just being in a room and putting down the work that we have to do. Because I feel that has been at least as well like from our global journeys as well. There are so many distractions, sometimes we need this, well, we wouldn't have need the pandemic but we need this outside impulse to rather come inside zoom in and see what what can we source from, from within. But I think after such an intensive period, it's also good to have some Have some rest in order to let new ideas emerge.

Unknown: 18:06

Yeah, you have to I mean, lately, I've always said I would love which has been like that for the past three years, I would love to work for six months and six months, just stay steel, why not say steel become a lot to travel travel is one of my my favorite thing to do and inspires my work so much. So would love to just work for six months and six months travel meeting people reconnect and just inspire again and recharge, you cannot just keep working, working, working, you're going to get burned out. And there's so much more of that than just the work. And lately you know, especially with the entertainment business, sometimes you know you have those moments when you're really so tired and there's a lot of drama and entertainment. You know, we I guess we love that too. Sometimes being able to save ourselves you know, you always love the drama the gossip sometimes. But sometimes you get so much that are like why am I even in this business? I'm like I just it's very it's very demanding. And then and then on the other end you have people say oh, you're not you know, artists not even work right. Which to me a was unbelievable. Been my whole life has been about dancing and you know that thing, iMac team working like that. And when people say, Oh, you're not even working. It's just it's Yeah, it's mind blowing. Another another thing that this year came, you know, just was tragic. I think when you know, the artists work kind of movement. Right. And it's it's important that people understand how hard of a life it is entertainment, of course, you know, sometimes to me too I've I've dealt with people and dancers that that are Deven be lucky enough to finish studies or to do other things and they just want to dance and that's it. And I've always said There's so much more to life than just that. And I and I've always been thankful for my family to help me now you finish your study first, and then you can go wherever you want to go. And I've always said that to people, even if you dance and dancing takes a lot of time, a lot of effort, you need to do something else. Because no, you know, you have to have knowledge you have to have like, mind openness, right? And you have to travel you have to talk to other people, you cannot be stuck in your little world is not, it's not a thing to do for me. So it's a pastor, you know, it's it's important to be able to fight for the hearts and and fight for people that you know, have been doing this all their lives and don't have anything else to do. But for me, I've been, it's been good. I've been lucky enough that I was able to choose. so far. We'll see how it goes. Because this year has been will reshape probably the entertainment business for a long time. You

Fabian Seewald: 21:01

know, I agree that it's it's changing and transitioning. But I I'd like to ask you, how would you define? How would you define art and being an artist? What does it take?

Unknown: 21:14

Oh, oh, wow. Our to me is just anything that that you think is beautiful life, anything that takes your breath away and anything that I don't know, anything that moves you? To me, it's hard, you know, it's in everywhere. The world is in our peace, music, dance, colors, I don't know, it's just, I don't think that you can even put art in, in in in a bubble rises. It's too much. You know, life is art is just too tight. It's hard to you know, many people ask me that question. It's always hard to be to find an answer, right. But maybe it's true. everything that moves you everything that takes your breath away. I think it's anything that it's about love and giving. It's hard to me and be an artist. For me, it's been always something that define well, walls, I'm a person that likes to give, I'm a person that my husband would say, sees the life through pink glasses. I'm a very positive person, I saw it. It started as it's been in me my entire life, I tried to find good in everything. Of course, that doesn't mean I'm naive. But I'm trying to focus on that and I'm being an artist, for me has always been to be enable enable me to express all my feelings. Whether I was on stage, or backstage, to me, everything I do has a purpose and a meaning. Even though sometimes, you know, a pure meaning of a piece could be just two beautiful people on stage with beautiful clothes, just to give you a moment of just excitement and take your mind away. That's, that's very powerful. Or it could be something that you really want to mean, you know, I've done I've created pieces that had more of a political message or like epic message, you know, it's just and it's such a great thing that being an artist can give you that power of giving this kind of messages and expressing a whether with your body, your your, your, you know, your vocals, your your acting, your whatever you wear the props, or be on the other side in creating the whole thing. So it's a really powerful, powerful tool.

Fabian Seewald: 23:45

Yeah, as you said, like, some people say it's not even work. I think it's beyond work. It's it's, as you described, it's just like, it's our it's our deeper meaning. It's really like it's purposeful to do it, to share it to, to give it Yeah, it's

Unknown: 24:03

it's, it's Yeah, it's never ending. It's just there is no beginning or end to art, right. It's just, it just keeps going. You know, it's just like energy to me is just there is everywhere. It's all around, you just have to capture it and regtech Yeah,

Fabian Seewald: 24:22

we're talking about these six months that you're working when you're not like in recovery and letting new ideas come in. Tell us a little bit about your creative routines and it's where the rituals that you create for the cast. What is the well this routines that you create in order to really excel and have the whole cast like thrive and grow beyond the expectations their own expectations? Yeah.

Unknown: 24:47

So business is all about routines. And you know, since I was a dancer, right, you go on stage here, your own little routine, right? Like you will go up and down the corridor three times or like He will say something before you go on stage are anyways just so you are, you're brought up like that thinking that there is a routine, there is something mystical about this, that is just probably is not the very soul in your mind, right, but it just makes you like to go ahead and have a good time, right. So even on the other side, when I teach or when I create a like to bring everybody together, always, always start the day with everybody doing warm up to me warm up is a is an incredible way to put everybody together to start sharing your energy. And, and not just because people have to warm up, of course, people have to warm up. But for me, it's more about the synergy that you create with a group. Because in the groups, there's so much diversity. You know, dancers are very different from circus artists, very different from our robots, you have your Russians, you have your Americans you have your the form those little pockets already. So that they the beginning of the day, to me is more like okay, let's break out those pockets. And I always say, you know, when you change your cost way change your your outfit for a warm up, you're gonna leave your problems behind. So we're not gonna take your clothes off, you putting something on you stay you're present in the day. And through the warm up, you know, you share your sweat, you share your energy people. So I mean, the feelings you get by being close to other bodies. It's incredible, right? And you can feel so much without talking. So that's my routine, it's created a synergy at the beginning, even my warm up, it's almost like a circle always believed in the shape of a circle. So there is never ending, right keeps on going. And so everything that do as a kind of a round attribute to it. Even when I as I start my warm up, I finished my warm up. So it all goes back together. And it's always as weird because I always start and finish with a bow. As for me, it's a very big art form is a very, you have to pay respect to the fact that we are able to do this, especially nowadays. So I guess that's my normal motivation of the day. And after that, you know, we start our day and I'm a person that likes to laugh. I like to, you know, to put a good mood, but I'm also tough on the other side. So people will say I never see Julio mad but when I'm mad, I'm mad. So it means that something went wrong really badly that you better not because oh, yeah, so yes, that's, that's what it is.

Fabian Seewald: 27:51

Yeah, the surgery is also something we work with a lot because it's also about you can see everything, everybody in the suit, but as well, what Stephen our co founder told us one it's also somewhat like a protected area. Because if somebody would come in from your bag, the guys that kind of are facing you. They could also say you sue, it's kind of like the you're holding the energy. I think that's that's another part of your correct

Unknown: 28:17

energy. Yes, sure. It's true. Yeah.

Fabian Seewald: 28:22

But over the last three years, you've been in the Philippines right now back in Vegas, but also Turkey. For me would be also interesting for such about globetrotting artists. What does home for mean for you? What does home mean for you? And how do you shape this bird life balance? Right

Unknown: 28:42

home in its, I guess, well, it's where I can bring everything along with me. You know, it's where is my husband and my dog and my it's my work and it's, I have been, I've been very selective in everything I do in my life in my bucket list have been very selective. So let's, I every time I do a job or go somewhere, I like to create my own home deck. So it's even when I was in Turkey, I was there for six months. So I brought things with me both things for the house, I like to create my own environment. But it's not just that I'm not just that as a guest. I'm there to relive the moment. It's been in Vegas now for Wow, it's been 14 years, which is crazy how time changes but I don't think there's gonna be my forever home. I don't I don't have yet a forever home. I keep dreaming about moving back to Europe at one moment because I'm missing the European culture mentality. And so for now, Home is where, where I can just create a little moment With my life, and when I can combine to work with my own private life together have been I've been lucky that my husband has been following me everywhere I go, or Moses aside from this year, because of COVID. So it's been my rock and is assisting me in everything I do. And taking care of everything, the house, the dog, so we've made that decision that because of my work takes me different places, it will just be with me, and stay with me this entire time. So I've been very lucky for me, and of course, my family in Italy. It's hard because, you know, it's, you cannot go always back there, but sometimes I bring them to where I am, to try to take them away from the reality, you know, the harsh the normal nine to five work reality. So it's a it's a it's not easy to balance, work, private life, but I guess when if you do something that you really love, and you're surrounded by people that really encourage you support you, that becomes easy. At that moment.

Fabian Seewald: 31:13

Yeah. Yeah, well, well said that, like home is a place that you can create wherever if you put them inside us. And also if you have, if you can bring the right people as well along and you're set like it's a balancing act. The SeeArts podcast is also about this balancing act between Arts and Business How did you manage juggle balance the these two areas as well as being a creative director, but as well, from time to time, you have to look at the numbers, both your own numbers, but also numbers of the production. Is this something you can source out? Or? or How did you create also routines to work along?

Unknown: 31:50

On the ISA? It's, it's crazy, because you know, when you think an artist is somebody that just doesn't think with numbers, right? But it's so not true. It's just, to me, I always found beauty numbers. I don't know. I was kind of a little geek. Also school. I was I liked books I like to study. And and Funny enough, I always liked talking about budgets and dealing with budgets until appointed I got offered my position Okada, Manila, and it was a Japanese company and they love paperwork, and numbers, Japanese people. And exactly, so but it was funny because my position was a creative director and choreographer, but was also corporate creative director, which I had never done in my life. So even in the interviews, they will ask me questions like, have you ever written an SRP? Have you ever done a Bo q Baba? And I said, I always said people say yes, first and learned later. And I kept on saying, Oh, yes, of course, I didn't even know what an SLP was, right? I didn't know what a B or P was. But I said yes, in my interview, because I know that I'm a quick learner, and I will look, you know, now we access we can access everything online, right? And so when I start accessing this, the operating procedures and below quantities and, and business plans. I love that because not only I was able to create a show, but I was able to put that on paper and see how much that show cost, how much I'm paying people so I was the one deciding how much people are paid. And everything had to go in within the budget. So sometimes it was tough because you're given a budget you need to try to figure out but sometimes was really interesting how that can can inspire you some of the ways right? Well wouldn't a third of these artists but because I have to pay that much money maybe I get these other artists and ended up to be very interesting. So it's Yeah, it's it's something that that I liked even now that I'm I'm almost always on my own. I don't have an agent or a manager. And I like that because I want to be able to talk to the client, I want to know exactly what they want and I'm able to actually come back with a business plan with a budget with everything because I wanted that to be related to what I have in my head what I vision so it's a it's interesting, but I really like it I really like that side of the job.

Fabian Seewald: 34:26

I think it's your mindset and your great attitude Did you say on the one hand like fake it to make it or yes say yes and i think that's that's an important attitude as well not to fake too much but the end just like to know yes, you can learn anything today it's at our our fingertips and we join their team, okay open to it and be like, technical wise or be like numbers wise and also seeing the beauty in it seeing the beauty that you can also choreograph the numbers in order to create a masterpiece both on paper and on stage. Yes, yeah. We're currently the whole arts and also has has been pivoting toward digital formats. The state of the art technology are with VR AR, as well, like AI coming into the place. How do you see these technologies? In a way taken over the stages? How important is technology for artistic expression? And as well? What do you think about these digital formats? A lot of questions, but yeah, let's let's take the 10 part of it.

Unknown: 35:26

Yeah, it's, uh, you know, I've always, always said I had a love hate relationship with technology, right? I mean, I, you know, I'm, I'm a, I was born in the 70s. Right? So oops, anyway, so you know, I've grown up without any of that, I grew up without a cell, you know, a cell phone without all these things that you were able to do online, everything was done live, which was beautiful. You know, we didn't really waste time with social media or, or, like, no going out of the house or anything. So I like that fact about my life. I like the fact that I was able to experience that, of course, technology has brought up a lot of different advantages. Having, you know, the possibility to access everything at any given time, it's really important is, it's a powerful tool, but it's very dangerous to kind of like, I think it limits creativity a little bit. And it limits the connection. And, of course, the importance of be connected to other people and be present in life. So I've been, you know, like, even with social media, it's always weird, because I don't know, if you have actually saw the latest social dilemma documentary, it is to kind of a, I'd open about something that I've always thought about, you know, it's just one of those things that is in your mind, but you don't, you don't want to confront it. So almost like, you know, these people eating you up in the back, like, you know, they direct you to do something, you know, it's not something that comes with from you, by directs you to go there. And all my life, I've always said, I want to be in control of my own life, I don't want anybody to control it. So I've been stepping away a little bit from that. And I never use social media anyway, but more of a platform, like a big CV, in the web. That's all I use it for. Right? Of course, it's great to communicate with people and everything. And the same is with with technology, in my like to look at the latest technology, because I use a lot in the shows. But I never want the technology to pass. So to cover the live performance, always try to find a way that that technology can enhance the experience. But it could never, I don't think you can ever find somebody that is as nourishing has energetic as a live person on the stage. I like to create a production around it, I like to be able to give it a setting as sometimes technology is incredible with that, it can give you any kind of settings you want to any kind of flavor. But without the, the the heart of somebody on stage without that kind of presence. I think at one point it will become very boring. And I think it's something that we need to be careful that you know that we just keep going Of course we need to keep going. But I don't want the technologies to pass and you know to take over the live performance is something that came live together, but all they are paying as a moment. So a way to enhance the live experience not to completely replace it. you need you need people we need to have the people on stage at thing to be able to really connect with an audience and to be able to pass an emotion the wow factor that technology can give a some undisputable. Right It's incredible it can give you this wow factor by then you can walk away without having learned anything. So yeah,

Fabian Seewald: 39:19

that's that's beautiful that you say technology can give the Wow. But the heart is with the with the human performance on stage and feeling this this connection. This this deeper? Well, I think that the frequency of humanities is something that I like to call it that there is something more magical and machines are at least let's say not yet there on the stage towards the audience. Do you already have some ideas? How could you play with these distance audience members if you imagine right now in the in the on the stages in on the on the audience ranks in in Vegas that there will be two or three seats left? Is this also something that opens up new opportunities or is this We say, it will be hard because you want to breathe along. And we want to feel the audience if you're part of it.

Unknown: 40:06

So it's a it's a tough one. I mean, even now, when I hear some of my friends are based on stage and, you know, sometimes there are more people on stage that watching the show, right? I've done, I've done in my career, you know, sometimes some shows, you know, you go to matinees, they're like, 20 people, right? And you're, it's so hard as a performer to give when you don't have the response. So I think I can I, I know, so because I've been on the other side, I know important is the response of an audience for an artist to be able to give 100%. So it's hard. It's hard for me to put artists in that position of just gone 100% giving you all for just a limited amount of artists have guessed? Because it's I don't know, it's something that you really need to be able to just go on 100% of your full capacity. And some people are trying now, and they want to say let's not try anything until we're back to normal. No, I like the idea that people are trying to find creative ways, like even drive thru experiences. But you know, the beauty of lab entertainment is the fact that you touch all the senses, right? So when it becomes only touching the, you know, the side, you know, you know, it's just okay, something very loose, it looks beautiful, from the sense you can hear, but you don't have that, you know, I don't know the immersive entertainment kind of experience, right? When people are closer to the audience. So one, there is some you know, even roaming around or the smell is so important, everything that you that you leave during a performance for now. I mean, if they would ask me to do something for a limited audience, I will probably consider Of course, haven't thought about it. I haven't really. Yeah, didn't have the opportunity to really sit down and come up with a new creative way to do this set up the race, when you know, when there is a limited experience the drive thru the, you know, just a few tables, or just a few people. It's, yeah, I mean, I guess he will work we'll have to work for now. It's not a deal. So we'll, we'll see. I mean, I've seen also, now it's a great creative idea that, you know, some companies that just bring the entertainment to you. That could be maybe something a little bit I would do a little bit more like you still bring the entertainment live thing and and you don't you don't just keep from a distance is just something just free to look at from a distance. So I like that idea. Maybe a little bit more. But yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't worry. We'll go

Fabian Seewald: 42:52

see how these things turn out. I think there are definitely the chances for some of the open stood created some one on one concert. So one musician sometimes as well working with improvisation. So one or the other, or just one person comes in, and then you get a private concert, I think there is something in it definitely not on the financial side, but right way of, of the intensity of the intimacy that you can create, then, instead of being one of 2000, and yon Justin is just performed for me, I think it can also touch us on another profanity. But yeah, let's see, I think the COVID or the Corona, Christ brought in some new formats that might be interesting to explore that we wouldn't have thought about because it's just not financially possible. But they're on. Yeah, let's, let's see where this goes. Well, yeah, in order to almost wrap this up, you talked a bit about your bucket list, but you'd like to share a bit. Two, three things that you have on the bucket list, maybe some of our audience members can also help give some impulses and just share like if you have already achieved so much being Yeah, all over the world. Yeah, let us know. what's what's down the road? What's happening on dry

Unknown: 44:07

dirty? Well, of course. I mean, at the moment, I've been really enjoying combining my passion for travel with my passion for creation. So I've been the you know, every day I kind of look forward to to find what is the next opportunity, right? I mean, like my T shirt says, right? One year 365 opportunities. I like that idea, right? It's like, okay, let's see where I can go next. But I can still bring something with me inspire people at work. So I would like to still keep working for some resorts. I think that's also where I guess that the kind of entertainment is going to still go. Because people still want to have vacation. They still want to have different experiences and travel. And I like that so you know Omar McAleese is still a few more resource I would like to explore in other places in the world, like, I have been in Asia for a while I've been you know, in America, I've been in Europe, I would like to experience India, for instance, one thing that is in my bucket list as a traveler. So I think we're not experienced something else Bollywood style, sadly, that would also challenge me because I would like to be challenged as well, or South America. So places that I want to, I want to have that. So combine those two passions for me. And so that could be my, in my bucket list. Of course, I've I've written my own show, got advance attributed live, which I did a workshop here in Vegas. And it was a very terrible situation, because my producer, the moment after we received a contract of residency from Westgate for my own show in Vegas, which is a dream come true, who would not have that my producer passed away, and especially with a heart attack, so that was something that still is still here for me, would like to still find the right venue. And it's a very dear product. For me, it's also because of, of my relationship with him as a producer, he was incredible person, human being really beautiful, beautiful soul. So I really want to keep I want to do it, also, for him to honor him. So that's also my background is to find a place to perform, got to dance. And then another completely different faculties. Because I told you one point, I want to, you know, I want to just give it out with entertainment. And well, what I think is important is just to keep going into something different, a big animal lover. So in my biker lease is to have a little farm, or a bed and breakfast in Spain, and have lots of dogs to have lots of animals and and just be there and just enjoy life and, and just give back to you know, to animals, which we've treated so badly. And so it's That's awesome. I can lease a bed and breakfast or farm bed with animals. Okay, well, so

Fabian Seewald: 47:15

the journey will go on for the next 567 decades we have India on the bucket list. Then gotta dance wherever making biggest Navy as well. Like maybe on Mars or on mood. Let's see, where would be the replication and then a bed and breakfast with dogs all?

Unknown: 47:34

Well, very different.

Fabian Seewald: 47:36

As a last question, what would be something that you could give to young artists today that are in this kind of grew up with the arts in this very uncertain times? Is there any kind of creator any kind of inspiring quote or something from from your experience you could could share with them to seek their art to go on? Right?

Unknown: 47:58

Yeah. Well, I always say to work hard, keep working hard, especially when times are hard. Let's not relax and stay back and wait. There is no waiting. I mean, I you know, I always said, you have to create your own moment. There is no right moment for anything. I've you know, been one in my life that when I had something in my mind that when and try to do it, whether it was leaving my loved family and moving to New York, with $100 in my pocket, and that's all I did it. I mean, now this is probably not as easy maybe because people are just so comfortable at home. And for me, I couldn't wait to just leave something else. So I keep saying create your own moment. Go there. Keep working hard, not rolling or your body burn your brain. learn a few things and travel and another thing be kind. You know, be nice. There's just too much ugliness in this world. And there are too many people that are still thing just not unbelievably so backwards and no open minded. Let's just you know, keep our eyes and our brain open. But be educated and work on on everything. Your body, your mind and just yeah, take take every day as an opportunity.

Fabian Seewald: 49:17

Wow, okay. Well, I did this was a lot of wisdom behind every opportunity or every day as an opportunity. And creating your own moment. I think that's what it's all about, because yet every day is a new chance and it's all about us getting up and making the difference. Yes, no, Guilio, thank you so much for these inspiring words. Thank you Here I care an insight into into your life your inflection points, said from Karate Kid onto the greatest creative directors on earth and still so so and so humble at the same time. It was it was a pleasure to have you on the SeeArts podcast.

Unknown: 49:58

My pleasure. Thank you. So much for Fabian.