Cole Makin' Moves is a producer, engineer, and videographer. 2 Smooth is an artist currently amidst his first tour. These Philadelphia, Mississippi artists are making waves on the hip-hop and southern soul scene with their most recent hit "Pay For It."
Cole Makin' Moves
Beatstars - https://www.beatstars.com/colemakinmoves
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Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/artist/2mdfKpy2zo9ChZgHGx2Wx2
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/colemakinmoves/
2 Smooth - Linktree
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YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@official2smooth
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/slowrollsmooth/
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(0:06) Influence of Rap Culture on Youth
(8:35) Boosie's Controversial Parenting
(19:13) Patience, Mental Health, and Comedians
(25:31) Comedy and Music Industry Evolution
(31:44) Discussion on Mississippi's Influence in Hip-Hop
(41:23) Southern Identity and Perception
(53:54) Striving for Musical Greatness and Returns
(57:22) St Louis and Promoters
(1:00:34) Achieving Goals in the Music Industry
(1:05:37) Southern Music Networking in Music Industry
(1:19:18) Discussion on Musical Versatility and Collaborations
(1:26:59) Belief in God and Success
(1:33:40) Reflections on Love, Music, and Talent
(1:46:03) Recognition and Support for Artists
(1:49:39) Challenges of Starting New Ventures
(2:03:15) Deon Sanders, M
Cole Makin' Moves is a producer, engineer, and videographer. 2 Smooth is an artist currently amidst his first tour. These Philadelphia, Mississippi artists are making waves on the hip-hop and southern soul scene with their most recent hit "Pay For It."
Cole Makin' Moves
Beatstars - https://www.beatstars.com/colemakinmoves
Apple Music - https://music.apple.com/us/artist/cole-makin-moves/1443582987
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/artist/2mdfKpy2zo9ChZgHGx2Wx2
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/colemakinmoves/
2 Smooth - Linktree
Apple Music - https://music.apple.com/us/artist/2-smooth/308265822
Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/artist/3UHJZFA1xR93DbavmqNAVV?si=9usOCBg2TF6TjQfeslZ-NA
YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@official2smooth
Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/slowrollsmooth/
PODCAST INFO:
Podcast website: https://www.countylinepodcast.com/
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0CzUzLnco4rMJXWUsPeJje
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-county-line/id1511436013
YouTube Full Episodes: https://www.youtube.com/@thecountylinepodcast/podcasts
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(0:06) Influence of Rap Culture on Youth
(8:35) Boosie's Controversial Parenting
(19:13) Patience, Mental Health, and Comedians
(25:31) Comedy and Music Industry Evolution
(31:44) Discussion on Mississippi's Influence in Hip-Hop
(41:23) Southern Identity and Perception
(53:54) Striving for Musical Greatness and Returns
(57:22) St Louis and Promoters
(1:00:34) Achieving Goals in the Music Industry
(1:05:37) Southern Music Networking in Music Industry
(1:19:18) Discussion on Musical Versatility and Collaborations
(1:26:59) Belief in God and Success
(1:33:40) Reflections on Love, Music, and Talent
(1:46:03) Recognition and Support for Artists
(1:49:39) Challenges of Starting New Ventures
(2:03:15) Deon Sanders, M
And we rollin'. They see me rollin'. Yeah, I mean rollin' and tryin' to get me ridein' dirty.
Speaker 2:I went through your catalog online yesterday. No, whatcha find the beats on. What's the name of that website? Beat Stars, beat Stars. Yeah, I found a lot of shit.
Speaker 1:I found some a lot of shit that I could get on. You found some Beat Stars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I found two or three.
Speaker 1:I be likin' that. I be likin' that stuff. I'm gonna move it down a little bit. I'm gonna move it up and down. I be likin' it, I be wonin'. I like when people go and actually check out my body at work, cause my beat star dog got a lot of trap beats on there, though like straight up trap. I barely got any R&B on there, barely, but I'm finna. Change that though.
Speaker 2:Where are your R&B beats at? Just not on Beat Star, I keep them locked away in a key.
Speaker 1:Why you do it like that, I don't know, man, cause I guess I have people who rap and try to get a R&B beat and talkin' about sliding and walkin' down on somebody and doin' this dead in the third tour. I mean that just it don't make sense to me. I never liked it.
Speaker 2:This might put you between a rock and a hard place, but the guys that you get that, come on and talk about sliding with the Draco. Will they really slide with the motherfuckin' Draco? Hell, no.
Speaker 1:Hell, no man, if they is they ever decided to crash out? They better leave me out of it.
Speaker 3:This my thing. If you're gonna to me, if you're really doin' it, you ain't speakin' on it To me, you ain't puttin' it on Wags. But I mean, you know, you got a few people. They just they liked it and they'll talk about it. Really, tell them some damn bout it right now. You know what I'm sayin'. I don't know, if I was doin' it I wouldn't be talkin' about it. Sho wouldn't be puttin' it on Wags, nah.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't either. Nah, it's frustrating to me because I feel that it's just a copycat game at this point. Like you know, if you hear Gunnar or Future can't nobody do it like Young Boy.
Speaker 1:Ah shit, he, just he on a whole different level yeah he on a different level. Hey, young Boy say everything. Well now he probably would say piss on somebody, gray, he tough nah. Chicago post in Chicago, none of that. Oh bluh man. I be listenin' to him. He don't kill. I be in the car. I be in the car gettin' it.
Speaker 2:That's like a push ice-ty. Ah, shit man, what I fuck with push ice-ty, even though I don't fuck with killin' people. Brrr, big brrr yeah.
Speaker 3:I like some of his Brrr yeah me lit I like Gardo I can't listen to it all the time, though. No, no, no, no, no, not all the time.
Speaker 1:Nah, I gotta have some jodicis, don't worry. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:And I think that's the problem with, like, the younger generation. That's all they're consuming, so like, and music is influential, it's very influential. So if you listen to that 24 hours, seven days a week, you know you're gonna eventually become it.
Speaker 2:And it's a reflection of culture, like art is the truest reflection of culture. So the fact that I don't blame young boy for rapping about the things he raps about. He's just talkin' about his life. It's not his fault that he came up in those circumstances and freedom of speech is absolute, so he should be able to say whatever the fuck he wants to. But at the same time, there are a lot of kids out there who have been influenced and continue to be influenced by the likes of Young Boy, pooh Shiesty, all these guys who have talent, but they're speaking about sliding with the Draco.
Speaker 1:That's what they, like you said they came up on that. It was exposed at an early age. You got kids that are fuck you mama, I hate you, slam the door, go in there and cut some damn young boy and then go out and just they be on the sag and just they thugging. It don't work like that. That's not being authentic. You can't help the fact that Some folks ain't blessed to have both their parents in their life and take care of them like that. People like Young Boy. They didn't have that. I don't know a situation, I don't really know a background, but like Safe Inc, somebody got brought up sing them on In the hood. You're gonna re-expose that type of stuff, you're gonna rap about that type of stuff. But if you are not exposed to that, you were brought up both your parents. Whatever the case may be, don't be thugging. I bet you just be legit and just be real. People gonna fool with you heavier than you trying to fake.
Speaker 2:These kids have nowhere to turn. Look at Philadelphia, Jackson, to a larger extent Meridian. Most of the violent crimes being committed are by juveniles, and so they, you know they don't have the and it's our generation that has perpetuated this, because we've had a bunch of children and we're not taking care of them. A bunch of our generation has had children at an early age and Children having children Correct, and so now we're reaping the non-rewards of Children not having parents for an entire generation, and the gangs filled that void.
Speaker 1:I don't know though. I don't know Because our generation, especially males, we more likely in our child's life, now Life for real, I noticed it, a lot of us. I noticed it, our generation, the males, yeah, we do.
Speaker 3:We done stepped up to the plate.
Speaker 1:We there now, unfortunately you got something. That's not, but it's more. Now. It's more coming and that's an encouraging time. Yeah, it's way more coming now. I will say that Because now coming up, shoot, you're just eating him. My dad is one in my life, but I see other people who father wedding too. That's what we had in coming, but now, shoot, I'll be chilling man, I'm gonna have to get my baby Get what he gonna say, and I'm gonna go pick mine up too.
Speaker 3:That's your idea.
Speaker 2:It's so important, obviously, for children to have Not only their dad but just important men. I think about that all the time. Whenever I get into a tough situation, I think about first of all what would Steve, what would my daddy do Then? What would Coach Dice do? What would Coach Jackson do? How would these influential males that I had At a young age handle this situation that I'm in? And it's modeling at it's finest, because, as human beings, that's what we do we model. And kids are so impressionable and so malleable that it's very important for them to have A strong male figure to reference, not only when they're in their childhood, but to watch throughout their childhood, so that when they're 25, 30 years old and they are faced with tough circumstances, they're like okay, I may not know what to do myself right now in this moment, but I had X amount of strong male role models when I was a child that I witnessed. How would they handle this situation?
Speaker 1:That may seem we all got that influence. Hell yeah, I ain't gonna count from coaches to Some of your parents. Friends that you call uncles, all that Play uncles that we call them. It takes a village and I just been blessed man.
Speaker 3:I always had my daddy, uncles, so, granddaddy, you know what I'm saying. I got friends, best friends, like Siobhan, who I know didn't grow up in the house With their daddy. But I mean, at the same time, look how he turned up. He could have used that as an excuse To go off and do reckless stuff and crash shots.
Speaker 2:So, draco, you know what I'm saying? Straight Draco, right. I'm glad you ain't got the stick Hanging out the rental code.
Speaker 1:Hanging out the rental code I ain't got the stick, I'll be sagging. I have about four face tattoos and some dreads.
Speaker 2:Getting them bodies.
Speaker 1:Nah.
Speaker 2:He could have been like.
Speaker 3:Well, I ain't had no father figure growing up. If you, ma'am, tell you be surprised, that'll be some of the excuse. Well, I ain't had no dad. Well, that ain't no excuse for you to turn out like Bro. You still know right from wrong, though, bro.
Speaker 1:I feel like you should use you not having your father around To be like damn. I don't want to be like him. You feel me?
Speaker 3:That's what I would think. That's what I would think. That's what I would think I'd be like damn if I wouldn't be like mine.
Speaker 1:Hell to the no. What a no.
Speaker 2:Y'all see where Boosie disowned his daughter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I seen it. I seen it. What do y'all feel?
Speaker 2:about it? How do y'all feel about it?
Speaker 3:But see, I'm a Boosie fan. Boosie has always been my favorite rapper, favorite. Anybody who truly know me, they know it. You know what I'm saying like, but that ain't the first time that I have seen him. Last shot on his Like I didn't heard like Bruh. They have all kind of stuff on YouTube Like they years back, like when Boosie flashed out Like he flashed. I'm talking about Ah blackie, ah dude, it like they say, that's just how it is when he flashed out. But I don't know, man, I don't feel like we know the full, the full story, to what extreme it got Took to.
Speaker 2:I mean in his song Ungrateful, he tells that girl's baby mama that he was.
Speaker 3:He was Basically flipping her with Bleak, with Bleak yeah, but if you, if he got a song that's what he was talking about in the song. I forgot what song it was like. Uh, how the fuck did it go? It's a old, we all know it. I can't thank it, and he was like we had in the backseat.
Speaker 2:I can't remember what song it was About to rip ass apart. Nah, I went that one. Wasn't Distant.
Speaker 3:Lover. He was like we left her shaking in the sheet. Uh, he was talking about him and Bleak then. She said she wanted me and Bleak.
Speaker 2:We left her shaking in the sheets, that's what he was talking about then. That was Distant Lover one, yeah, I think that's what it was.
Speaker 3:Oh man Like shit.
Speaker 2:Boosie been, he been.
Speaker 3:If you go back and you listen to his music. He been saying all this.
Speaker 1:Distant Lover. I fuck with Boosie. Yeah, I fuck with Boosie, I fuck with Boosie.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Boo.
Speaker 1:If you see them, I wish I really like I literally want to work with Boosie. I seen him. You tagged him On Instagram. I seen him at least say it.
Speaker 2:There's a guy.
Speaker 1:He tagged him bro cause that beat Literally fits him bro. Oh yeah, especially what he going through now no doubt that beat man, it was Boosie, he hear that beat right now. Especially what he got going on with his baby mama and all this other stuff, legal problems, all that man. Let me ask y'all this.
Speaker 3:So you know for his you know part of his rent going off Was when he took the car back from his daughter. How y'all feel about I know when you got it. You know you spend it, how you want to spend it. How y'all feel about him buying his daughter For her 16th birthday A 2023 AMG Benz. She's 16 now. I know there's something. There's something he do with all his kids. But If you had it, liked it To spend like that, would you buy your 16 year old daughter A 2000 brand new, fresh out the line AMG Benz At 16? Would you do it?
Speaker 2:Sitting here today, I would like to say no, I would not. However, I've never had that much money, so it's hard.
Speaker 3:It's hard to say if you.
Speaker 1:Me hell yeah.
Speaker 3:It's 16.
Speaker 1:But nah, she getting awesome, you getting the Honda or something, something. I wouldn't go that far Cause like I, I'm not even I spoiled, like the way I spoiled my daughter now, because I'd be like damn, I ain't had it. So like that's what gets me every time she be wanting this and I'm like, damn, well, I do got the money. Alright, come on, let go.
Speaker 1:I do that. I literally do that, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't. When old boy got that, though, but him taking it back, I agree, I don't care. You disrespected the hell out of me. I'm your daddy.
Speaker 3:Call me a bitch ass.
Speaker 1:N word man, I'm your daddy.
Speaker 3:I done took care of you forever, your whole existence.
Speaker 1:Regardless of what me and your momma got on, I have still taken care of you and I'm still your dad and you gonna do that and you get online to the word.
Speaker 3:You could have called me on the phone and told me you felt like that. You didn't have to. You know what I'm saying. Call me a bitch, ass you call me a bitch ass man, I'll tell you something I don't wanna drop the.
Speaker 1:I think I already dropped it anywhere there. It was by mistake people.
Speaker 2:Do you not want people to hear you say that in work, though? I respect your podcast. It welcomes them. Word by black people.
Speaker 1:I'm weak, okay, woo, hey, okay, since we on that topic, Okay so what if you like, had somebody that came in that actually felt that way about black people and they dropped it on here? Like I know, you were cut off for one cause you I didn't see you cut up.
Speaker 2:Well.
Speaker 1:The racist stuff before in a podcast setting.
Speaker 2:It's different because the way I view it is, it's an opportunity for someone to civilly and respectfully express themselves and how they feel, okay. So if for one, if someone came on and Used the n word with the hard R and they were white, I would already expect that that may be a possibility, because it would likely be a conversation About something serious, such as race relations or something like that. So now, if somebody just set it out of the blue, I'm not gonna get upset with anybody about what comes out of their mouth On the podcast, because I know that that's my goal is to have open and honest conversation. Okay, okay, I respect that but.
Speaker 2:And so everybody's entitled to their free speech. Everybody's entitled to what they wanna say. I know you, I know, and that's what I say here. Now I might reach across that table. Slap shit out of them.
Speaker 3:I know that I'm telling you, brad, you never know, until you actually make it, and then, when it happens, you're like okay, yeah, I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1:I tell that story every time we civilly I really know you dumb up. Hey.
Speaker 2:You know what's crazy, though, cole Is, I've been in a fight Because of race before and my perspective as a teenager. I was pretty confused about race Because I thought about it a lot. My dynamics Me personally compared to White people, say, in private schools or even in other public schools, our dynamics were different. We were white, people were a minority. So and then having that experience and not a lot of other white kids Could understand that dynamic.
Speaker 3:But at the same time Everybody wanna call me while I'm doing it down, go ahead.
Speaker 2:So, having said that, coupled that with my interest in the civil rights era and what went on here in Nishaba County, with the racial dynamic that we grew up with, and then also being Hanging out with people regularly, other white people, who are openly racist and will use the N word with the hard R it was a lot to take in.
Speaker 1:It made you feel uncomfortable, though, when you hang with white people who are openly racist like that, knowing that in your heart, you like me, and come on now.
Speaker 2:Well, there's yeah in my heart. That's how I feel. Yeah, Come on now what?
Speaker 3:the fuck are you doing, can you?
Speaker 2:not see that. That's a derogatory term and, like my whole thing is With the N word, with the hard R, with white people. You can say it, but you better say it all the time.
Speaker 1:I don't want to just say it.
Speaker 2:Don't say it just when you're around white people. Let some brothers hear you say it.
Speaker 3:Keep that same energy. And when you keep that same energy, just be prepared for the consequences that Cause it will be consequences.
Speaker 2:But most people who use that word cold. That's the exact way they handle it. They don't say it when the brothers are around, they only say it amongst white people, and I hate it, you know I don't. But there are people that I'm so close to, who I've known my entire life, who have used that word and will continue to use that word, that I just I can't help not being around.
Speaker 2:Cause it's just them, that's just them, and so I have to just instead of, you know, making a fucking scene every time I'm around them I just have to agree to disagree with them on that, and you know understand. Understand that that's a flaw that they have. That I'm not going to change and it's not worth losing the friendship or the family member over.
Speaker 1:You can't change folks, bro. I will say that you can't change folks. Let's start with what they said. Like if I tell you what you're doing is bothering me and you continue to do that without trying to stop, then I feel like you just don't give a damn about me, so we don't need to have a friendship. You know what I'm saying. I get you, though. I understand.
Speaker 3:And even though in Lee's case it's a little different, because they're not doing it directly towards him, right, you know what I'm saying? It don't have nothing to do with him, even though they know that he's not liked it. But at the same time there's somebody who you've probably been knowing your whole life. So do I quit hanging around this person Because they use, even though I'm not liked it, they not disrespecting me blatantly, directly, I feel where you coming from, though Like I'm not going to end this relationship but at the same time, just know I don't. That's how you feel. I don't fuck with it now.
Speaker 3:So if you get out somewhere else and we around and you use it and they punch you in your mouth, don't look at me, don't look at me. Because you know how I feel about it. You know, so I respect it though.
Speaker 2:I respect it and it's taken, you know, ten years Ten years.
Speaker 1:Well, I got a lot of patience.
Speaker 2:I like to think I do, but I'm not so sure sometimes.
Speaker 3:I be like this all the time.
Speaker 1:Like people tell me all the time, I got a good patience. I believe I make beats and stuff, though, and that takes a lot of time. I think that will calm me down.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's good to have those outlets that Like, if I'm upset, like I'm on the computer, if I'm upset, I'm going to exercise Before.
Speaker 3:I cut somebody out.
Speaker 1:I want to try that.
Speaker 3:That's a good, that's a. That is one outlet I have found that has helped me, like walking, just getting out in the open, like I go to the Northside and just walk, run, like and it's really done to help. I don't do it now as much as I did, but because I you know we be a little more busy now but like just going out there and just getting out in that fresh air, just walking and running, like it don't I mean it do something for your physical too, but people don't understand how much it does for your mental, your mental state.
Speaker 3:Like it calm you down, but like it relax you, it help you focus better. Like Like people got to. Like Get out the house and start moving, get active. That should have changed your whole mental state.
Speaker 2:There are a lot of times mid-afternoon I'll get sluggish, get in a you know asshole mode and I can recognize now, like man, you need to go get this energy out, you need to go exert that energy and when I get done, all that irritation and aggravation Not all of it, but it's significantly reduced. To where I can look in the mirror and be like you back level headed, you back to equilibrium now.
Speaker 1:Now we gonna say I get aggravated. Pretty quick, you know, I get aggravated.
Speaker 3:Short fuse cold. I do too, I do too.
Speaker 1:I get aggravated fast here, bro, but I think that happened when I became a dad.
Speaker 3:I used to be like real, Just like chill I'm still a nut Shalun, but it's like when I became a father, Like I just sometimes I just I just click.
Speaker 2:I think that is attributed to, yes, y'all being fathers, but also us having more life experience. So there are some situations when we can see how the shit's gonna play out, because we've experienced that situation before. So, as opposed to just watching it play out in front of us In a negative way, like we did the first time around, now we're like, hey, hold on now.
Speaker 4:I see how this shit gonna go, bro. Let me go ahead and make a deal with these roads.
Speaker 1:Let me go ahead and cut it off. Dave's friends said we know D-roads.
Speaker 2:Dave's. We built D-roads. Is Dave Chappelle the best of all time as far?
Speaker 3:as as far as wood.
Speaker 2:Comedian Stand up. Comedian Stand up. No, who is?
Speaker 3:It can't be, dave in my eyes, just stand up, stand up yourself, I think, doing stand up.
Speaker 1:I think Kat got him doing stand up.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a good point. Hot take with a good point.
Speaker 1:I think he got him doing stand up, but as far as like actually just hitting on that nerve of uncomfortable, like just talking about the alphabet, community or politics, racism, but isn't that part of stand up conflict?
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm not gonna say he's not the greatest, he's not the greatest in my life.
Speaker 1:You can do comedy without doing that. I'm not against it. But what I'm saying is Dave, like the tiptoe on that thin line, kat just say fuck it. You know well, dave say fuck it, but you know what I'm saying. He more so like Y'all know him from talking about this, y'all know him from talking about this. How many times you've seen Kat talk about something like this? Did today talk about it? Kat gonna have a whole story. That's a good point, you know. But Dave, I mean, he's funny to me. Who?
Speaker 3:is the most overhyped Comedian Stand up.
Speaker 2:I hadn't really thought about that. Oh, I got one.
Speaker 3:I got one I got one, we might have the same one. I swear to God, you been saying that. Dl Hugley bro, he is not funny to me. Dl Hugley gets on my mind All the luck I heard.
Speaker 1:I do not like DL. He been talking crazy Tuesday. He does talk crazy. Well, it's not that I don't like him.
Speaker 3:I'm not a fan of his standard. He's just not funny to me. And he wanted the original Kings of Cumbia.
Speaker 1:Man, they just drug him a lot.
Speaker 3:I don't say how he was just like a third or fourth wheeler. We just need one more person. Come on bro.
Speaker 2:DL Hugley is one of those black men that I think has signed on With the elite liberal mindset and gone on with it Lock, Stock and Barrel.
Speaker 3:I believe he was just at the right place At the right time and they just said come on.
Speaker 1:If you listen to DL Hugley, you still wear Jebos.
Speaker 3:Airpods.
Speaker 1:What's the one with the Rhino?
Speaker 3:Eco.
Speaker 2:EKKO.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all that mess, Now one of my top two comedians Of all time. The creator that he deserved said you to entertain.
Speaker 2:That motherfucker's hilarious Bernie Mac Yo to the good bro no.
Speaker 1:Bernie to go. Oh yeah, Bernie to go.
Speaker 3:But now I'm a fan of Steve Harvey's stand up.
Speaker 2:He underrated it to me. I like Steve Harvey as a stand up comic more than a game show host or radio host or whatever.
Speaker 3:Of course he limited, then he versatile though man, it's like he funny, no matter where he go.
Speaker 1:He's like one of the perfect hosts you could have for anything, for anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what's the new show? He's got, he's a judge the judge. What's going on there?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know Judge.
Speaker 3:Harvey, judge Harvey. Yeah, yeah, judge Harvey, I gotta check it out. I didn't see enough of it. The episode I seen. It was I, but you know how sometimes you gotta like keep watching it For sure. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Kevin Hart's in top three in my opinion Stand up. I like it. I like it.
Speaker 1:I'm cap. At first I was one of the one that like, ah man, he over height, but like I watch something like, damn well, no, you know, he grew on me big time. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I put him in my top three. He's a hustler. I put him top five. He is a fucking hustler.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he a hustler, though, for real, he got that bag, but see, I've never been a fan of.
Speaker 3:I've never been a huge fan of Cat Williams, not like him more than now. I never put him where I put DL Hugh Glead, but I just I don't know you don't watch his stand up. What about Richard? Pryor, I do. Did you watch? Why me? That's like way before.
Speaker 1:But Richard Pryor like not saying that he's not funny, but we didn't experience you know, at adult age or becoming an adult. No, like I'm not taking nothing from him, like I'm pretty sure if I go back and watch him older stuff him I'm gonna be cracking up I have seen some stuff.
Speaker 3:But, then, he died when we was like we weren't even born yet. Nah, we were born. I thought he died like the 90.
Speaker 1:See when you born in 90?.
Speaker 3:Well, if he died in 92, I won. I mean if he died in 91. Let me see, hold on.
Speaker 2:We're also just talking black comics.
Speaker 4:I don't know, it's been a white comic. Let me see what like.
Speaker 3:Best of all time. Hey, I'm gonna tell you who I cannot think of. I would have to look for him on TikTok. I wish I knew his name, bro, so I can give him a shout out.
Speaker 1:I don't know if he followed me on TikTok. I can't thank his name. Richard Pryor died in 2005. Oh, we was, we was. I was 13. We went in high school.
Speaker 4:We went in high school, we went over to middle school, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was listening to Pretty Ricky Grind on me.
Speaker 2:Relax your mind, take time with me.
Speaker 1:Hey, you know something, when you sit back and listen to the spectacular rap now you be like that shit is cringy.
Speaker 3:Give me the lights.
Speaker 1:Let me start kissing on you, girl Bold, messing in your body, getting freaky girl, kiss you on your neck down to your belly button. And maybe your close up while you get this love, hey, but he the hustler, though. He the hustler at the group.
Speaker 3:Man, but let me tell you something he was the hustler Pleasure P. Oh, my God he be snapping like a jazz thing. Like man. He was phenomenal, bro, all of them, but all of them was phenomenal together.
Speaker 1:They got their own type. Everybody wasn't the same. Like Speck was the sex idol, pleasure was that silky, smooth voice, because he really the on the single Baby blue, baby blue, whoa.
Speaker 3:Then he go in. He was just different.
Speaker 1:And slick him with the toe.
Speaker 3:Yep, he was the toe. That was what I was about to say. Slick him with the toe. It was like the perfect combination.
Speaker 1:Spotted 30 in the morning.
Speaker 2:The internet also opened up the lines for different types of people, opened up the opportunity for different types of people to enter the game. So, like somebody, commercially, a music executive, I don't know a pretty Ricky story, but at some point along the way they gave them the resources and the backing to make their best shit. So we were limited in what we were exposed to to a certain extent, because at that point not everybody had the capability to do what we're doing right now and make their own shit and then put it directly to the, to the consumer, through their phone.
Speaker 1:How they came up with. I mean, of course, the internet still played a part, but it wasn't like how how Soldier Boy used the internet. You know what I'm saying Right. Like pretty Ricky and them, they still had to. They just had demos out of the store. They still had to physically market themselves.
Speaker 2:And the internet has.
Speaker 1:It had changed. Now, though.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the internet has up the game. It has exposed more people to better talent man. The internet now it's making everybody better.
Speaker 1:The internet now is the A&R yeah, literally. That's why. That's why a lot of music industries do not like TikTok. Tiktok is making people and, like me personally, I like the shit. I don't give a damn.
Speaker 1:I don't like how people be like man TikTok, just make anything high. No, I mean shit. If it's funny, catchy, whatever the case may be, and people like it, what's the problem? Yeah, they get into the bag Exactly Just because you, just because you know how to be super lyrical. That don't mean nothing in today's time, a lot of times Nothing. I love the fact that you lyrical. I listen to lyrical rappers, but if you, finna, go to the club, you ain't trying to hear nothing lyrical in no damn club you trying to hear it. Fuck the club up.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Fuck the club up. You trying to turn your ACL in there, but I'm not trying to go in the clubs there. I'm not doing that you trying to hear it.
Speaker 1:So that's where marketing comes into play. Like, if you are a lyrical rapper, instead of trying to get your shit played on in the club, where people just drunk and thugging, why not go to somewhere like a coffee shop? Why not go to some of your poetry slams? Why not make some TikToks on that type of vibe? You could have your shit playing with some fucking hot tea beside you and people love it.
Speaker 3:That's market. Yeah, that's marketing. Know where your shit need to be played. If you rapping like that, you don't need to be in the club with it. You need to be, like he said, where people who like that type of shit gonna be. It makes sense.
Speaker 1:It makes sense. Use your hashtags to market towards those people. You know. That's just how it is. I'm not about to sit here and I wouldn't play. You weren't going church playing. No, young boy.
Speaker 2:No, that's what I'm talking about Exactly.
Speaker 1:You want it Exactly.
Speaker 3:It's simple.
Speaker 1:If you make gospel music, you're not going to go to the club at two o'clock in the morning and cutting on your song. That's not marketing you, just being ignorant at this point, yeah you just don't care you just yeah, you're evil. You need change.
Speaker 2:Have y'all ever seen the guy from Mississippi who some people claim Puff Daddy copied and created Big Will?
Speaker 3:I've heard about that, but I have heard of it.
Speaker 2:I forget homeboys name, but he was a real guy from Mississippi and his name was he had either notorious in his name or BIG.
Speaker 1:I didn't look this up, yeah, and if you listen to me, I don't know.
Speaker 2:But I'll tell you who an interesting story about how I learned about this guy. I was on a flight from Dallas to Houston in February and I ran into this black gentleman at the bar in Dallas waiting on my flight to Houston. And I get to talking to this guy and we're exchanging names and where we're from, where we're flying from, going to general airport conversation, and he keeps talking about his daughter and why he's having to fly here and fly there because of his daughter being this great artist. Well, he was flexing. He was wanting me to ask him who the fuck his daughter was. Well, I'm not that type of guy. I'm going to strangle him along a little bit until finally I just had to ask him. Long story short, he was going to Jackson to his relatives funeral. This guy lives in Los Angeles. He ends up being her, her's, dad.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow, oh, the singer, her. Yeah, it was her dad.
Speaker 4:Yes, and he and so Her dad, her dad, her dad, her's daddy.
Speaker 3:Her's dad.
Speaker 2:And so we get to talking about Mississippi, and he's from southeastern Arkansas originally but got a lot of family in Jackson and we were talking about blues music, Southern Soul music and I told him I really like my two favorite types of music are country and hip hop. So we started talking about hip hop and he tells me this story that he's like because I said something to the effect like Mississippi hadn't gotten enough recognition in the rap game throughout hip hop's history and he was like, well, it could. So I'm going to argue that one of the best of all time was created based off of a character, a real character in Mississippi, who rapped.
Speaker 1:I'm going to lift this up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I heard about that a couple of years back.
Speaker 1:I'm going to lift this up.
Speaker 2:It's bars too.
Speaker 1:I'm going to lift this up. He eats that, but you know they always say like like main industry really do be paying attention to like underground stuff and shit, it's so that they can go create their own version of it without having to bring that person out. Why not just bring the originator out? Can't make as much money, man, much of that didn't trick people back in the day with that money Signed 360s in. There man look.
Speaker 3:Because you got to try to develop these artists, you got to try to put all of it Instead of if you just get this person and just, hey look, this is what we want you to do, this, the image we're going to create around you, do this, do that, because that person already there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Problem is that they're market like let's use the big example If they were to take the real big from Mississippi and try to make him the star, that big ultimately became notorious BIG from New York. His market is automatically bigger from the jump as opposed to Mississippi big.
Speaker 1:So they stand. More resources out there, yeah.
Speaker 2:And they stand more of a chance to make money quicker if they just take this guy to New York in that day and time. Now somebody from Mississippi can make it on a big level Because again the internet you can go straight to the consumer. You ain't got to rely on an executive to come pick you out to slums.
Speaker 3:And I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love it. Yeah, it's liberated the game.
Speaker 3:I love it for sure, but now and I tell everybody you have to be willing to put the working in though.
Speaker 3:Oh, for sure, because the content and everything now is on you. Everything is on you. So what you put into it is what you're going to ultimately get out of it. Everybody just looking for this quick viral moment where the quicker it comes, the quicker it fades away. You know what I'm saying. You got to work this shit Like you. Be your labels now. Or like executive now. Be like man, what we? Just the only problem we having is we having a hard time getting our artists to create content Because they just like why I got to do this? Or like man, that's the shit that's getting people on. That's how you get your like you said, it's direct to consumer. At this point you get chance to go straight to your fan base, but you got to put the content out.
Speaker 3:It ain't got to be nothing extravagant. Put your set your phone up on your tripod, play your music in the background and just do some shit. Do some shit Like we pay for it. Man, I'm on the shit. I got fucking 10, 20s, four, fives and six ones. People in the company talking shit. He ain't got number $200. You know what I'm saying? I'm slicking them long ass nails. He got.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. They all in the company, but I got a million views on this post. There you go. I made it work. You know what I'm saying. And y'all going to stream the music. Pay for it. Been out what March, March. I checked the streams on yesterday collectively and I already got over it's like a million, it's like it's over a million. It worked With everything, With everything.
Speaker 1:I was way more than that then.
Speaker 2:Also, that's a really good song. Appreciate it. Thank you, appreciate it. That's a really good song.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's way more than that.
Speaker 2:The quality of the song and y'all's efforts. From a marketing standpoint, I think it's been a perfect storm. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And it's so new to it's so many people who still haven't heard it because it's only been out five, going on six months. Like perfect example King George, his song Can't Stay Too Long, his biggest hit to this. I don't know, keep On Rolling might be his biggest hit now, but his breakout song was Can't Stay Too Long. That song came out in 2020. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it until 2022. That's two years, bro. That's how long they but they kept bro. It take a long time for songs to just surface, but you gotta keep on working it. Create content. You know what I'm saying? That's what you gotta do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you gotta maintain that level of commitment. Or just like you said, just as quick as it came in a leap In a leap. So I mean, if you get a buzz online, yeah it's better be working.
Speaker 3:You gotta be working. You better be working, because if you don't, you'll get lost in the shuffle If you get a fire. This side the hardest thing to get is the fire. If you get a little bit of fire, you better be putting some type of lighter fluid on that bitch I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:you better be dumping it, the hardest thing doing it, getting started it's getting started.
Speaker 3:But once it starts, Once that motherfucker gets started.
Speaker 1:You keep on throwing all type of bullshit on it. I'm telling you, I find what I can find and throw it on there.
Speaker 3:Whatever you can put on there to keep it lit and make it bigger. That's what you gotta do. That's what creating content is.
Speaker 2:King George is on top of the Southern Soul game right now.
Speaker 1:But he's so dope. He's so dope to me, like if I go somewhere.
Speaker 2:And he's just what 26, 27, something like that.
Speaker 3:Somebody said that, but I heard somebody say that he's like in his early 30s.
Speaker 2:I went and Googled it Just looking at King George before the age conversation even surfaced. He don't look 20, 20. He looks to be like 42.
Speaker 3:He don't look dead old to me. He do look like he, he look like he probably all age.
Speaker 2:But I think also it's like I've seen videos of King George and his concerts. First of all, king George is a national treasure. Like King George should be way more popular than he is amongst the American public. But the videos that I watch is just it looks like older people, like early 40s, 50s at the Southern Soul Fest and Mobile or some shit, and so I've equated that to King George being old and looking old.
Speaker 1:He don't look old to me.
Speaker 3:He don't look old to me, it's just his breast is torn. It's the type of music he had been here before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he got an old soul. He been here before.
Speaker 3:Like, like. As black people, that's what we say Like we got an old soul. You know what I'm saying. The type of music he makes, what he talks about, His music attracts an older crowd, but he got a lot of young people, because a lot of young people are starting to get into Southern Soul. You know what I'm saying? Because that's what you especially like, bro. We in the South you not gonna not hear no Southern Soul.
Speaker 3:It's called Southern Soul, we in Mississippi. It don't get no more Southern than where we at. You damn right, it don't. It do not get. For anybody out there who listening we are in Mississippi. It don't get no more Southern than Mississippi. We are the, we are the Southerness of the Southern. We got a town called why Not?
Speaker 1:I'm telling you, we, down, we down here, we down here Coming down in the slab.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Eleanor, shout out to Louisa, shout out to Alibaba.
Speaker 1:It don't get no more Southern than Mississippi, but have you been to the Delta?
Speaker 3:You feel me. Have you been to the Delta, oh God?
Speaker 2:Ain't nothing down there. Don't go to the Delta.
Speaker 1:Bro, it's a. I'm telling you, bro, like I love being from the South man.
Speaker 2:I love being from the South too.
Speaker 1:Like when I go somewhere else and like they be like man, you gotta be you where you from, and I tell them I don't miss it. Man, you sound like that's what they say.
Speaker 1:They be like man y'all. Just they say we talk slow. That what they say, but that don't mean like we talk slow, like you know our intelligence. They saying like we just lay back when we talk Down here I'm considered a fast talking person. Yeah, you are Real deal, like for real, but like if I go somewhere else, like up north or something, they be like man, you sound like you from the South.
Speaker 2:I have to catch myself on this podcast because if I just carry my everyday tone I can be, I can almost put people to sleep sometimes. So I have to be sure that I keep my pace up so that I don't get long and drawn out, cause that's my natural draw.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let me shoot it how we talk yeah.
Speaker 2:But I do think people like listening to it, especially people around here, because if you think about it like we don't have a whole lot of media options to look, I mean to see and hear people that sound exactly like our neighbors, yeah yeah. That's why I think people like Hardy are so popular right now is because Hardy's a true Southerner and we tend to resonate with people all over the country Like they're interested in us, like you said they'd be like where are you from, based? On your accent.
Speaker 2:And they don't see us on mainstream media or hear us on mainstream media, so that when one of us does make it, they're like damn, I like this motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then, like they want to see what we do down here, like I want to see it from y'all, like y'all from there.
Speaker 2:But I think for so long the American public has just been like those are just a bunch of dumbasses down there, we ain't fucking with them, we're just going to let them do them and you hear some stories down here besides the racism, you going to love it.
Speaker 1:I promise you that you find some history down here that don't have anything to do with racism. You find some stuff down here. You got all your horror stories. You got all your pimp stories.
Speaker 2:And we're not the you got all your music stories. We're not as hostile from a race standpoint as the national media would have the nation believe Currently.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't care. Some of it is I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1:I get what you're saying, but, like I think we said this last time we was on here, down here racism is just so bland, like it's not undercover. You know it's here, so that's why it don't freaking bother us, like people up north, if somebody calls somebody in word up north, they oh my God, he said it and they make a whole damn press release on it. Down here we know somebody down the street saying long you ain't saying to me, cause you know what time it is and that's how it is. I mean.
Speaker 2:Other than that, what would be? I mean, how often does that happen? How often has a white person called you to N-word to your face, exactly? So I mean on generally speaking, I think our relations are better than the perception of them or across the country. I'm not saying they're perfect, I'm not saying they're great, but I do think they're better than what people around the country think they are.
Speaker 1:You think it's getting a little better because our generation, like we, actually fooled each other. And the older generation, who just hate each other goods, they die now.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think that has a lot to do with it. I think that has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 1:Cause I can guarantee you it's somebody who will race his head and they probably burning in hell. Now I don't care, but they great, great, great granddaughter got some mixed kids, mm-hmm. Well, I'm just being honest, like I mean.
Speaker 2:I mean that's. It's such a Nearsighted view to be adamantly racist, white person or black yeah, now white people.
Speaker 1:now I'm not lying like you got some older black people who just mm-hmm, yeah, ain't, ain't fucking with the crackles, they don't want, they don't want no grandkids mixed with nothing.
Speaker 2:No, they want that the black or the berry, the sweeter, the juice.
Speaker 1:Both way, like I'm being real, like yeah, that pure black.
Speaker 3:Darker the flesh than the deep of the roots. What up to pop? Now you're talking, but some of the best music has came out of the state of Mississippi.
Speaker 2:Oh, we're the birthplace of America the birthplace. Y'all can thank us, not me personally, but yeah, yeah thank you Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:I'm glad to be miss it.
Speaker 2:We just got a good. We gotta get our shit to grow, man. We gotta get more people man with DD.
Speaker 1:Old folks die. I'm sorry they sound harsh but like I think I'm not wishing death on nobody, y'all just just joke. But what I'm saying is like Y'all are older, the older politics are not in tune with. I held our generation. If y'all in in tune with us and we I'm 30, you know we are, we are adults, we take care of ourselves. I was got kids, all of that if y'all not in tune with us, the hell make you think you're in tune with all the young boy listeners.
Speaker 2:Oh, my god, yeah, they're. They're out of touch and they way a lot of touch now.
Speaker 1:You had somebody more. So of our eight, what's the youngest you can be to be president? At it 35, 35. Put somebody 35 president right now and see what happens. No doubt real deal. I'm being honest, I bet. I bet they can relate to me, gonna relate more to us and a younger generation.
Speaker 2:I mean that that's a good point. Have y'all seen those videos of Mitch?
Speaker 1:McConnell, dude, like he's terrible, he's terrible.
Speaker 2:And Joe Biden? They won't even let him outside. They won't even let Joe Biden come outside.
Speaker 1:It's time to damn camera. Get on me.
Speaker 2:This old geriatric ass.
Speaker 1:He's freezing and man look, y'all stop putting that man up there. Y'all clearly see ARP a devil.
Speaker 2:It is Look you think black folks you're gonna vote for.
Speaker 1:I don't know who, I don't mean. The thing is, y'all get black people vote. They did last time. They voted for last time.
Speaker 1:You gotta get black people to vote. That's a thing. Um, I'm not. I'm not having politics, though, but I have seen that and I'm not blind to clearly see this man. It's not stable to be in front. No damn camera on God talking about stuff. If that the case, get to that. That's that. Types are mountain. Yes, I'm a read. If you can't stand in front of this camera and have a clean cut conversation, stop being stubborn, get your ass out the way and let somebody else come do that job, and then that's the problem. That is clearly the problem.
Speaker 2:But the another problem is the reason that they won't get somebody else and they want to keep him in that position Is because he ain't really running this shit. Somebody else is running the shit. He's just a figurehead, and whoever whoever's running shit don't want to lose control, so they gonna Try them back out there.
Speaker 1:I just think politics is just who is the biggest stubborn asshole? Real deal, not. I'm not like look, I don't know politics. I never been a politician.
Speaker 1:I ain't really in the so that's why I don't really just touch on politics. But what I will always and forever say is y'all are out of tune with the younger generation. If you're not into the younger generation, create a job for somebody who is in tune with the younger generation. Do something that. Do something that you can clearly see what the damn problem is with our age group, instead of two beers and trying to be stubborn and keep freezing on the damn camera. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2:If you saw this shit, you would laugh your ass.
Speaker 3:Say what we need.
Speaker 2:Cole, in this, in this moment, right here, what we need is somebody running the computer with a screen and they could look it up, pull it up on the screen and then to smooth could laugh his ass off watching me telling you, bro, freezing his shit, because this ain't the first time he did this, no, this is like the second time in two months.
Speaker 1:Yeah and like and if he got a problem, hell problem, why y'all keep putting y'all making a mockery? That's what that is. Yeah, they're trying to.
Speaker 2:They're trying to put up a front as if nothing is wrong, when it's clearly a problem that we have. Before I even show the video, look at it, man. Oh yeah, you clearly know some we have entirely too many old people running this country.
Speaker 3:We do. I don't see them, I just I ain't know what the name.
Speaker 1:Man, look, bro, forget that, I don't care, I talk about everybody. Hey man, look like a damn, he looks like a turkey a church, sock church so. Like mr Soco.
Speaker 2:Connobie looking like a church so he looked like a church.
Speaker 1:So yeah, he don't mean he need to cut that out man, put somebody else right there.
Speaker 1:That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I feel like and this goes with any job, not just politics if you know you are old or no, you either finish retire or you can retire earn. Whatever the case may be, get the hell out the way and let somebody else do that. Just like like boards, like people who be like on board education or whatever. It'd be a lot of older people on there. I want about a young, about my age. Come say something.
Speaker 2:We need term limits on whether it be a board, whether it be everything Senators, house representatives, congress, all that shit. You need to be able to get in that bitch and do it for about four or eight years and you need to get the hell on out the way, get out the way, just like.
Speaker 1:Have a work shadow. You can go on, start coaching this person up to do it. You know, instead of jazz I'm not saying just get the hell out the way and just throw me in there, because you throw me in there I might not know what I'm doing the first year, but I ain't gonna say the first. I said the first month, but give me about about two months. I know I make some shake, but have a work shadow, get the hell out the way. That's all I asked his move.
Speaker 2:They want, though, because they profit so much from being in those positions. I Mean it's so obvious. It's so obvious that if you get elected to Congress, you are, and and God forbid if you get seniority in Congress like Mitch McConnell. I want to create so much you create.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's not. It's not about how much they get paid by the government itself. It's how much they can get paid based off of the relationships that they build with people in Washington, whether it be defense contractors, whether it be other politicians. They figure out ways through Relationships over the course of 50 fucking years to make as much money as they possibly can like. Think about Hillary Clinton how much she's made since running for president. Just because she goes and she speaks, she charges an ass ton of money. But it's because she's got all these relationships and she's built like they're just they're greasing each other's pockets and it's because they're there to mother.
Speaker 1:Lot of old money. Lot of old money, not all money. I just say you're too long. Give me some of that damn money I'm running to. I run into.
Speaker 2:I want to go to the White House one day they said there was a rumor that Joe Biden's son left his cocaine Hmm at the White House. Oh, it's a son. Have you all seen those those pictures and videos of Joe Biden son smoking crack?
Speaker 3:Real tall. He do cocaine crack. That's what they say.
Speaker 2:And apparently I guess, when your father, the president, is a lot of pressure again I Ain't doing no drug so there's also the the allegations that Ukraine and Joe Biden have had a relationship and they're in bed with one another. Have fun, you claim and pay in Joe Biden.
Speaker 1:I get what and I ain't feeling I don't even change the study. But get what, what? I still got a week up and go to work in the morning tomorrow, on Sunday. No, I'm just saying in general, whatever the hell they got going on, yeah, damn, because I still got bills paid for.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is very true. It's a. It's hard to sometimes Wrap our heads around as regular people. What the fuck they got going on?
Speaker 1:Yeah, like don't get it twisted like I understand, like I said, a lot of older people like they're watching news and they be in tune with what's going on and politics, my grandma's something out of time. Y'all need to be watching this so you can know what's going on. But at the same damn time I got a light bill that need to be paid. Yeah, I can't sit here and watch Mitch freeze on TV every two damn hours. I gotta get up and go to work. So you know it's just. Hey, it is what it is at this point I can't do nothing about it.
Speaker 2:Have y'all seen the video of Oliver Anthony Richmond, north of Richmond? He's a ginger white dude. He got famous off of video a song a video of his song he's singing, called rich men north of Richmond, talking about politicians in Washington, and he put it out and he has skyrocketed to number one on charts, billboard charts and Basically become the most popular person in America.
Speaker 1:It's on tick-tock.
Speaker 2:It's everywhere.
Speaker 1:It's everywhere. Okay, so I Talk is a new a and R man. It's everywhere. I'm just me and I man. You can. You can blow up doing anything.
Speaker 2:You blow doing anything. The quality's got to be there. The quality's got to be there.
Speaker 3:The quality definitely gotta be there, I mean you know, excuse the wire.
Speaker 1:Can't be there, though, and today's where? No, there's no you can go get a random. You can use this Mm-hmm, this is called an iPhone. It got a camera. You can use this stuff and People will rear, deal like, go crazy over your content, and you can use this stuff until you get some money to get some new stuff. That's all it is. Look at, look at that. Look at our earlier music. All that stuff. You what you got, you what you got. I had an interface just like that and what?
Speaker 2:at what point do you have to decide to Continue investing? And In the quest for what, what, what is, what is to smooth quest? What are you, what are you going for, what are you striving for, ultimately, through your artistic efforts? I.
Speaker 3:Just want to be the best at what I do. I want to go down. I want it. When it's all said and done, I Want to go down is one of the greats to ever do it. Whatever they look like, you know saying I ain't got no, hey, I want to know. Yeah, I do want plex, I want a wars, I want this. But I want to go down as one of the one of the greatest to ever do this music, shit, whatever that looks like. That's what I'm striving for.
Speaker 2:Are you seeing steps in that direction? It's, you see it.
Speaker 3:So you're seeing returns on your quote-unquote Investment man, ten times old already, you've been touring huh. Yeah.
Speaker 2:How was st Louis?
Speaker 3:St Louis was dope. St Louis was dope, it was, it was real dope that was rocking with us in st Louis. Good vibe, it's good. People shout out to the promoter big ant, that put that together. Shout out big and yeah, big ant, cool dude. I think that was his first time actually doing an event. So you know, shout out to him for bringing me to the city, first one to bring me to st Louis. So that's be for promoter to. You know, saying that they can be the one that say hey To smooth, I bought him to st Louis. That's, that's like, that's a big thing for promoter.
Speaker 3:You know I'm saying so years down the line or here, maybe later on this year. You know we continue to do what we do and we skyrocket here. Have debt on his resume. What shit I'm the. You know I'm the first one to bottom bottom to st Louis, right? You know? Damn, for real. Then they make that brain traffic his way. People want to rock with him more. But Shout out to him and shout out the st Louis Texas. When they'll be. Rest in peace when they. I wasn't never Hooked to his music like the, but he was like To me, he was like the bear white, so no side of the loop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is fucking cold.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was like he liked the bear white of southern.
Speaker 2:Yes, sir. Voice deep, but like he can rap to.
Speaker 3:I see I ain't never, I would never really just hip to you ever listen much, but he had a very distinct voice like you're, like your mama, probably know who when they'll be war. You know I'm saying like Rest in peace. When they think he died from what, like colon counsel, something, like it was something.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I just heard that he passed here recently.
Speaker 3:What I like. A month ago, oh yeah, hey, he was like fit the night, do y'all look?
Speaker 2:at the website. Daddy, be nice.
Speaker 1:What's on the? I'm not gonna put that in my damn God type in type in daddy be nice. What is, what is about?
Speaker 2:southern soul type it in.
Speaker 1:I swear to God, it's not. It's not it's not porn I.
Speaker 3:Don't have Like.
Speaker 2:I don't have my phone in here with me.
Speaker 3:It's sound like some. I swear to God.
Speaker 1:We'll look at after there, daddy, be nice.
Speaker 3:What is it about?
Speaker 2:like it's just music. It's an entire website dedicated to southern soul music charts, history, artist biographies weekly charts, daddy, be nice.
Speaker 3:Dot-com, I think, is the name one last time you looked at it probably two weeks ago.
Speaker 2:I Ain't seen you on there yet, but I've been trying to get daddy be nice to get his shit together and get you on that bitch. Oh it, I've had, I've had to be nice to be on the podcast, and he did not, is it?
Speaker 1:like something is Like it's starting up or is already like no, he's been doing this shit since early 2000s.
Speaker 2:Oh, daddy be nice.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you ain't. You ain't seen pay for it on there.
Speaker 2:I haven't, but if Cole would look it up on his phone right now, we could see. You tell me what it is, what it is.
Speaker 1:You had to tell me, but I'm gonna but I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna tell you something this real when you asked this. Revert back to the question have, have you, have I, been seeing a return on my investment? I will say this One of my goals, I've already completed one of my goals that I had for myself and and one of my goals was, I told my old ladies I said I don't know what song it is, but I said I don't care what number it get to, but I said as long as I get one of my songs to get on the iTunes chart or the Apple Music chart, it could be I think Apple Music go to like 200, one out of 200, or iTunes go to like 117. I said if I get on that bitch and it's the number 200 song, I don't care, I achieve that goal. Is that all genres? This is well, it's whatever song you're, whatever.
Speaker 1:Nah, this one, the all genre chart, it was the actual blues chart.
Speaker 3:It's the actual blues chart for iTunes, because you know they break them down into. You know categories or whatever. So whatever song you're, what you call it categorized in, they have a chart for it. That's it.
Speaker 1:It's not called DaddyBeDicecom, it's called Sudden Soul R&Bcom. But he is the. I get what you're doing, though. I get what you're saying that went through me out. But now like iTunes.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I done seen that iTunes, they have.
Speaker 1:they do have the chart, though, with everybody.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but now shout out to him. Shout out to him, but iTunes and and that that's the main chart, you know what I'm saying? That's curated by one person. Yes, that's subjective. That's subjective iTunes you can't.
Speaker 3:You can't submit your song to iTunes. Hey, put this on the chart. Not saying that that's what he do, but iTunes. You don't know how to talk to nobody from iTunes to get your shit on the chart. Either you got it or you don't. Based off of plays. Based off of play. Based off of who fucking with your shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Have you surpassed, from a number standpoint, where you ever imagined you would go at this point? Oh, just from YouTube to iTunes, to all the different platforms. I mean you're number is.
Speaker 3:I always knew I would do it, but the the time frame in which it happened shocked me.
Speaker 2:Did you think pay for it was going to do it Like when you recorded? When y'all recorded that and y'all got done before y'all got ready to hit send to put it out for the world where y'all like this bitch is about to pop.
Speaker 3:I think we feel like that about every song that we do, but when it happens I tell anybody.
Speaker 1:I felt like I felt like we had one Couple one this is just from a personal standpoint that my first blue beat Me and Feezel did that together. Yeah, who's?
Speaker 2:Feezel, feezel.
Speaker 1:I think one of the things that I don't on the tracks to shout out the fees. Yeah, you heard Spank, al, I think you should go with me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he on the intro. Yeah, he on the intro Smooth hotel. Shout out the freaking feet. We're going to give him a period one day, though, but but I did one thing that did shock me too, though. Out of out of 117 people on the iTunes chart, pay for it, pay for it has made it to number three on that chart. So what? And the only two people that was ahead of this was ahead of me was King George was number one we keep on rolling and Ella Jane free at last and pay for it was number three.
Speaker 2:So what category was? Is that chart? That's blue, that's blue, yeah.
Speaker 3:And that's. That's the iTunes charts. I know curated charts from no person, from not one person who got that. No, this is the iTunes chart. If you got an iPhone, you can go. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I do wish that iTunes and or Apple music and Spotify would designate Southern soul as a genre within all of their different categories.
Speaker 3:I don't think they're going to do that. They're going to do that.
Speaker 1:They're going to do that. It's so distinct, it's real distinctive. It's just like how they do R&B. Now, like you go to the R&B charges, you just gonna sound like some pop on there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like they're gonna do that, they're gonna do that.
Speaker 1:It's too niche yeah.
Speaker 2:Too niche, like yeah, way too niche. But I think if more people were exposed to it then they would like it because, like our Southern stars don't blow up like they did in during Motown or during the really the 50s, 60s, like now. It's very regional. You very rarely see a very Southern person go mainstream commercial success Damn.
Speaker 1:King George. Oh, so I know, lord have mercy.
Speaker 2:I think you should. But like I'll say this about Southern soul music, like I think it would be wise of you to smooth to dabble in Nashville circles, because a lot of what Morgan Wallins doing has a lot of Southern soul tendencies. If you go listen to his 36 track album that he put out here recently and it's fucking breaking records every day.
Speaker 1:You like, you like. I'm set on.
Speaker 2:I'm indifferent. I get depends on what you define as an album, but I'll answer that after I get done talking to the double D's.
Speaker 2:If you, if you go to Nashville and you pop in there and you know, say you record a couple of songs with some up and coming country singers, they gonna be able to get on a Southern soul vibe. They may not know what Southern soul is, but when they hear it they're gonna be like oh yeah, I know what the fuck's going on. And the listeners white people that listen to country music they like that sound but they don't necessarily know what.
Speaker 2:Southern soul is and so if you marry the two and it makes your market that much bigger.
Speaker 1:I think white people like pay for it Hell yeah, it's different, bro, because it don't sound like.
Speaker 3:No lie. Shout out to P2K. P2k told me he said, bro, he said pay for it ain't even really blues. He said that shit really like is damn near hip hop when you think about it. He was like, because you kind of you kind of rapping but you singing at the same time. He was like and I think that's what make people like, fuck with it that much more because it don't sound super bluesy. You just took your style and you made it into a bluesy type. You know what I'm saying. Then you got Chavon, they, him and Fizzer, they laying down the damn the bass and the fucking horns and all that Pay for it don't sound like nothing else. It don't sound like what's out now from a blues perspective. That to me it don't.
Speaker 2:I thought what was awesome is all the skits that came back. I've seen the ones that you put up on Snapchat Tiktok, yeah, yeah. Have no fear, Mr Pipe is here.
Speaker 1:Bro, I knew. I only know why I asked that question about you. Think white people like it. I know they do, because that Tiktok with the man was in his car with his kids. Yeah, now, boy that I think I was in a bad mood until I saw that.
Speaker 3:And I'm talking about his key. That brightened my day. His key is in the backseat, saying it word for word, word for word. His key is now.
Speaker 2:He was like man.
Speaker 3:I played this song so much. My kids know this shit Word for word. He hit me up on Tiktok. He said I'm going to send this video to your IG. Sent it to me. I said that's crazy.
Speaker 1:That's why I always say like music don't have a color, it don't have a color, music do not have a color.
Speaker 3:This man told his men say if you ever in Arkansas, please let me know. Bro, we go to a bar. Whatever he said, drinks on me. This man don't know me from a can of paint White guy. Just that's how music would bring it together.
Speaker 1:It's something about music, bro. It literally would bring people together that you do not know when you since been on tour, you'd have had people show you videos, especially the girl who was in Texas showed the video what she had a son, her son, singing it. Shout out to Zoey and she came to the show. You know like what, she had about an hour hour to drive, yeah, something like that, something like that and came and like these people. You know they meet them and they tell their story and like that's cool, that's really cool to me.
Speaker 3:They be like man my. Every time I play this song, my son, my daughter, people send me videos to my tool smooth page. They kids when they playing payfold. These babies are singing it Because they parents done played it so much that the kid loved the song and it's a friendly song. It's no cussing in the song and it wasn't designed like this. Just, I don't hardly cuss in my music anyway, I just don't, because I'm all about expanding the brand. So I want to, you know, I want to be in all type of markets. I want kids to be able to hear my music. I want older people. That's why I got a. That's why I have a lot of older people that you know make up a lot of my fan base, because I don't put out vulgar. Yeah, I might talk about six, but here don't we all have six. That shit ain't no secret, damn right.
Speaker 3:You should be at five, at five.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:But it's how you, it's how you talk about doing it. You know what I'm saying Like songs like slow rolling. I ain't cussing slow rolling. It's a love making song but a lot of older people and younger people fuck with it. So I just make music that, that that hopefully touches everybody, young and old, and it's been doing it.
Speaker 2:So it's paid for to single off of an upcoming project.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:It's going to stand alone. It's going to stand alone.
Speaker 3:It's there, it stands alone.
Speaker 2:So is there a follow up to smooth hotel? I'm going to yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I will say that on the kind of line we, we are going to put out an extended of the Lux version to smooth hotel. I can't just let smooth hotel just stay like that. Like we, we are doing extended version, probably about four or five more tracks.
Speaker 2:When's that? Do you know when that's going to drop?
Speaker 3:If I don't do it, at the end of this year it'll probably be the first part of the nation. But I got to do that, I got to. I have too many people hearing me up about it.
Speaker 2:I called Arthur Young's manager trying to get him on the county line and he's actually from his name's Damien. He's from where, he tell me, somewhere. I don't know if it's in a black belt, but it's not the maplest somewhere in Alabama.
Speaker 3:I was to or him or Arthur Young, his manager.
Speaker 2:Trying to get that worked out. If y'all talk to any King George's, arthur Young's, I know, I think you in big mail Y'all got a relationship, though I will tell you that too.
Speaker 3:I'm going to run that by big mail today. Today, did you reach out to him? You tried to reach out to him To big mail. Yeah, yeah, did y'all get that worked out? Uh-uh.
Speaker 2:I think. But I was given a number. Who and the person who gave it to me said it was big mail's number, but I think it ended up being a sister.
Speaker 3:Yeah Well very seldom will you probably get their number. They may have like a booking, somebody like that. You know what I'm saying, but I get that worked out for you for sure. Big mail, that's the homie Shout out to big mail, big mail.
Speaker 2:Big mail's from the walk.
Speaker 3:Me and big mail got a show coming up on this September the 16th in Sugarlite, me and him performing in the girl's show Sugarlite.
Speaker 2:Where's big mail from Walnut Grove?
Speaker 3:Nah, I think he from either Decatur or Newton. I want to say mail from Decatur, I think, up the road, up the road.
Speaker 2:Up the road. He a homeboy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, Shout out to big mail man. Big mail is cool dude. I ain't got time, yeah, I done built. We done well, we done built some good relationships. Shout out to P2K, me and P2K talk on the phone a lot. He the one that got the song with King Joe you turn gotta make a U turn.
Speaker 2:I like that fucking song.
Speaker 3:I gotta turn around y'all P2K big mail, of course. Oh yeah, I got a chance to chop it up with Sir Charles Jones, so Sir Charles Jones want to do some work with me, so we going to be going out to Dallas to Sir Charles Jones studio.
Speaker 2:OG Tribble OG right there Urban Mystic.
Speaker 3:For show Urban Mystic. Who else? I'm missing somebody. Damn, I'm missing somebody. J1. Fellow Mississippian. So and I done talked to these guys on the phone. These guys done reached out to me like, hey man, what's your number? Let's chop it up. Shoot on my number, we chop it up on the phone. So yeah, we got some BC coming up.
Speaker 2:That's so important man.
Speaker 3:Networking.
Speaker 2:I don't care if it's in music or podcasting or whatever. If you're a barber it's going to be good.
Speaker 1:It's not hard. It could be a scary thing to me. What's that Networking? But it's something that your work does for you when you just don't know it for real, like how the shit just take off with pay for it, like social media. So I think social media makes it easier to I mean, ain't no make it. It does make it easier to network. It's nothing like that ground network, though. Nothing like it.
Speaker 1:Like I can, like how he just can call up one of these guys. You know what I'm saying. That's different. I can't just call you. What the hell do I just call in your main page on Instagram or something? And try to get in contact with you. You know like that's weird, but you know after they didn't probably seen it. And then boom, amen, what's your number Get at me.
Speaker 2:I'll be doing that shit. I'll call the motherfuckers you got a page.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, I'll call them in a heartbeats. You call somebody main page, hell yeah, do they answer? Probably not Every night.
Speaker 3:You talking about the?
Speaker 4:phone number that they. No, no, no no. I'm talking like the actual social media page.
Speaker 1:Like you know, you can call people on Instagram and Facebook, not a number they got up there.
Speaker 3:They want you to call them.
Speaker 1:That's different. Yeah, they want you to call them. You won't be talking to them, right.
Speaker 3:You'll be talking to whoever they represent. No, but you're actually doing the right thing.
Speaker 1:Call that number and they can put it up there for a reason. But I'm saying for the ones and I'm gonna say it on the podcast Stop calling the damn Too Smooth page man, please bro.
Speaker 3:Please stop calling me that page, bro, because I'm not gonna answer. I'm not gonna answer. He get the phone call again like I do.
Speaker 1:We're not gonna answer that shit.
Speaker 3:Irked my nerve Go to the bio and it's gonna you either gonna see a number or you gonna see an email. I think it's gonna be like fans.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be like man, I'm gonna try and say I can talk to them, but I'd rather you Like you're most likely to get a response from a DM than trying to call. That is very weird. He do respond.
Speaker 3:I do respond to DMs. He respond to that.
Speaker 1:I just got my first DM fan mail too, that's for pay for it. Shit feel good, though I think I screen shot.
Speaker 2:I had somebody reach out at my DMs after the podcast I did with gambling. Yeah. Caleb yeah, and she was trying to get on, so I put her on. Caleb yeah, nah, I'm weak man.
Speaker 3:Hey, let me tell you something. Let me tell you, let me tell y'all something the more your brand grows, the more shit it comes with like this. I'm telling you Because just imagine this Now I have 75,000 followers on my Toos move page. You got to know the inbox be looking crazy sometimes, and I'm talking about people would be in there saying some shit, but that's what comes with this shit, though. You know what I'm saying. You got to think you got 75,000 followers. I may get 500 shares a day. On a light day, think about how many people are seeing this shit from all over the country, all over the world. So you're going to get some inboxes. Some people may see you some pictures, some videos, but I love it. I take it all in, though. Have y'all seen Tofer's Bible quiz? I love Tofer man. When I tell people who Tofer is, they don't believe it. I don't know. Sir, I just have one thing to say to you you did your damn thing on pay for it. See, see, thank the God, see.
Speaker 1:Thank the do say bottle. See that me and Fee Zell was drinking on that day.
Speaker 3:Man of bars was up drinking at like eight o'clock. I was still back there in the bed.
Speaker 1:Like we. Literally I did something I'll never do. I brought my setup home like down here, Because that's a lot of shit to move, Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:You done, seen it, and I got more since then. So I told Nick. I said, man, look this weekend right here, dedicated, we going to get in the studio. Got in there, I did. I made a beat early that morning. I made two before everybody got there, because that one on the sick of time Did that then turn around, and that's what we did. Pay for it, man, fee Zell. We did that. Boom, did that beat. I want to say did you, did you write? You didn't record anything that night, though did you besides, in about 10? In about 10. That was it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I didn't record pay for it. It was weeks.
Speaker 1:It was weeks, yeah, yeah, but in about 10, we actually went in and did some stuff on that too, and that was and that's another rare moment because, like I rarely hit the record button for Nick. Now he do it himself and just send it to him. Look at two smooth. So like I'm telling you like it was a lot of rarity going on. It was a lot of rarity going on that day. I never bring all my stuff down here but I like forget it. We're going to do it and then I can't. That's the last time I didn't hit the record, but before the end I can't tell you when. Right, at least for him. You know what I'm saying. Like that's just how we work here. Do his thing, shoot it to me, do my thing. We there, we go.
Speaker 2:You been fucking around in Atlanta any.
Speaker 1:No, but I need to. My boy Dula shout out to Dula Dula been the he been. That's oh shoot, I knew it was one.
Speaker 3:We forgot the name oh guy Young guy, Young guy Shout out to young guy man yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's Dula. That's who Dula produces for, so shoot you ever been younger?
Speaker 2:Really, I don't think so.
Speaker 1:So take he.
Speaker 3:Son of a son. Yeah, you are like, where's he?
Speaker 2:from Atlanta, he from no. No, he from New, I don't want to say he from.
Speaker 3:New he from New he wherever male from. Male and guy know each other. I think they came up like together. Let me see. You know what I'm saying. So they, wherever male from. I don't want to miss the whole, you know what I'm saying, but I think it's like the New Decatur area. I think it ain't Hickory, is it? It could be. It could be.
Speaker 1:But like I'm telling you, I'm telling you brother, I'm telling you brother, Me and young guy finna put some shit on Me young guy and me, I got some, got some, got some shit.
Speaker 1:I definitely, I definitely want to go to Atlanta, though Dula he goes out there and do some stuff and he tell me all the time. I just ask him to give me a little heads up because you know we've been going to places now so but I want to go, I want to go, I want to go work with, I think I think the thing that really irks me a lot of times people try to box me in because I do a lot of freaking, I do a lot of R&B. I love to do R&B, that's my main thing. But I do make a lot of trap stuff and make a lot of that. That boot noise, not just sudden soul, but I'm saying stuff for boosting them.
Speaker 2:I like that boot noise. Man, what I heard a couple, I heard a couple on beat stores yesterday's got that boot noise. I bet your ass in here doing the grid. I got hey, I almost got my pen and pad out. I'm doing it. I'm telling you.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you because man, like like I was, I have been forced to be so versatile because Nick can rap and he started out rapper. But what's hitting now? Sudden soul R&B. So it's naturally I'm going to make that type of stuff. I don't put that stuff out there because, for one, I don't want somebody who either can't sing or they want to rap about sliding on somebody on one of the R&B tracks that arex, that arex, my core, that is so they will try it.
Speaker 1:Man, that'd be hard man They'll try to slide on the R&B track, trying to be different. Yeah, and I'm not against you being different, but I think it just meant it just me. You know some young blue type shit, and I ain't just with him. It's just like they won't even go that route. They won't go that route. They won't even go to K camp. Rap and K camp is freaking fire. Yeah, he is Like he shout out at K camp. I would love to work with K camp.
Speaker 2:Really, I got some shit that man, I like seeing me personally selfishly. I like seeing smooth perform as he performed on pay for it. I like to hear him sing, but I also like to hear him rip that motherfucker up. Man, look, I can see smooth going and being the ultimate Southern soul Drake type that can go to the top rapping or singing at any time he versatile though.
Speaker 1:For sure.
Speaker 1:Now Nick is versatile, so I'd never know what the hell Nick are like of mine, that they just I don't know At that point I just send the shit. But you know he eventually he gone boom. Yeah, like I fuck with that hard and he'll do it. Now everybody else that I work with, I don't try to box them in, but it's more so that they don't want to step out their comfort zone a lot of time. You know like this is what I do. I'm gonna stay doing this. So I'm not for to make a bunch of freaking R&B beats for you. If this is what you're doing, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:You gotta get out your comfort zone. That's where you growth is it?
Speaker 1:Whenever you get out your comfort zone, that's when you go on start to see stuff, set up, pray, pray, pray, pay for it and turn around my lab blue beat sent to the nigga and he called me. So that's what I'm saying Like you, step out that comfort zone. I stepped out my comfort zone and did that, we got paid for it. And now, whenever the hell he do that one to this one you know what I'm saying Like boom, like damn, you really that show. Yeah, I versatile, straight up.
Speaker 2:So y'all are working on another Southern soul song and we working on everything.
Speaker 1:We're gonna be on this. Everything Like I.
Speaker 2:it's not a box bro, Literally y'all just doing what y'all feel, whatever the hell.
Speaker 3:Because you gotta think like I got like my will, you got to pay for this doing what it's doing, but you still got people who, who live in slow rolling. You know what I'm saying? Well, that's R. It's R&B, yes, based off of like a blues song, but it's R&B. So that keeps us not confined to that box. You're not gonna see me out here with no cowboy head and no fucking boots.
Speaker 2:That shit ain't shot out of here by the who do that?
Speaker 3:But that ain't happening that ain't me, I be trying.
Speaker 1:I don't even know not. I be trying, bro. I'm like bro man, just put some boots on, fuck.
Speaker 3:No, I ain't got put no, I ain't got no problem with the boots. I don't have problem with the boots. I'm not wearing a fucking cowboy hat, but I ain't get it.
Speaker 1:I be like man. I be wanting to wear a cowboy hat at Trail Rise Because you know it fit the theme, you know, and he like wearing hats. So I'm like shit, put the hat on. I ain't putting on no fucking cowboy hat. I don't blame you. I ain't no cowboy, I don't blame you.
Speaker 2:You like the cowboys, that's football Got him.
Speaker 3:I just like that cousin, cousin that he was the Mississippi State. That's it what they gonna do this year. So both that disappointed me so damn bad.
Speaker 1:last year I bought the. Hey, I'm not scared to say we're four now. I'm not scared to say so.
Speaker 3:I'm just gonna take a game by game. Hey, I ain't put no predictions on them, just be quiet until the time.
Speaker 2:I just want to see Dak put together. I want to see him play 17 games, or 16 or higher.
Speaker 1:I want to see him put together MVP type season so he can shed a lot of folks up.
Speaker 2:I think he can, if he can stay fucking healthy. Yeah, because before he got hurt, minus the inceptions, but you know like, I think city lamb is a beast, I think that I think that had what. Tony Pollard is too, I think, I think that had what running backs have.
Speaker 1:like they call it from the lightest thing he had Pickitis, pick. It is intercept, interceptionist.
Speaker 2:It just shows me a lack of interceptionist.
Speaker 3:It's like a focus.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, but like it happened, like it's kind of like freak, those like getting your head. You can shoot like I had, I ain't gonna cap, I can shoot a jump all day, but when it came to free though I was, I was bad. I don't know what it was about. I'm fine, I'm not, I don't, or it could be this call.
Speaker 2:It could be he was diagnosing a two, three zone and it was a three, two zone.
Speaker 1:Man, I think you just trying to be technical. I think it was in his mind. I think it was in his mind. It's just like I'm telling you. It's just like if you stub your toe, you're going to keep thinking about how you don't want to stub your toe again and you're going to mess around and stub your toe again because you keep thinking about it.
Speaker 2:About the myself a self fulfilling prophecy. Yo literally about the mistake I don't cap man.
Speaker 1:I try, I try not to think about negative stuff because I be feeling like you, that speaking stuff into existence, shit is real, yeah. So I ain't gonna lie. I be kind of like man look, I ain't wishing none of that on me, I'm knocking on wood, I'm what she look.
Speaker 3:I speak it into this. If I want some good to happen, that's what I speak and that's what come from it. Every time You're going to have negative, no matter what, you're not going to get around that shit because it's life. You're going to have good you're going to have, back to the day you leave it.
Speaker 1:I will say that, though I feel like anytime a bunch of negative stuff happening, that really does mean something's good bound to happen, no matter how big or small, because you didn't seem somebody negativity happening to you, even the smallest shit, going to bring your day up.
Speaker 3:Well, I feel like God maybe had to tissue before he blish you know what I'm saying. Might need, might need to see how, how your faith is. You know what I'm saying. That too. Before I give you, before I lay all of this on you, let me see if you can handle it. Let me, let me prep you for this.
Speaker 1:I'm like Lord, please come on. We don't really do you think?
Speaker 2:do you think that you can be successful if you don't believe in God? What's what?
Speaker 3:showed. What's your definition of success? Everybody definitely says is it money?
Speaker 2:Be one of the best in name the field Actor, ballplayer, scientist. That's fine.
Speaker 1:That's fine, then, like that if your, if your version of being successful is just being real and famous, everybody knows you and, whatever the case may be, now, hey, that's you. That was some folks.
Speaker 3:It's your definition of success. Some folks, success is being closer to God.
Speaker 2:Do you think you can reach that level of success without a belief in God?
Speaker 1:I don't think you reach a level of success without a belief in anything. You got to believe in something. I don't mean, you guys do Even if you don't believe in. God. You got to believe in God. You got to believe in something yourself, other people, something. You got to have something to help you get somewhere. You ain't going to do nothing on your own.
Speaker 3:They just get that out the way Now. My belief is in God, but somebody else believe may not be in. God, that's y'all, and that's, and that's whoever hey you know, that's your belief, but that's where my belief is in. I know what got me here and I know what's going to take me there. But, like I said, go back to what's your definition of success. Is your definition of success Me having a million dollars in the bank? Me being all over TV? You know everybody's definition of success. I sure want that, though.
Speaker 1:It's different.
Speaker 3:I do want it.
Speaker 1:But I am not going to trade in no belief for that, though they just put it that way no. It ain't worth it. Put it that way it ain't worth it, so I'm going to do that.
Speaker 3:Though we got to die, we got to leave here one day. What happened then? I can't take it with me.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. You know how. Even you got to be to bury your money and shit with you.
Speaker 2:That shit, man. That's a mental problem. Like for that to be part of your will.
Speaker 1:People you do have. You still have gray robbers in today's time. They might it might not be as common as it used to be back in the day, but if you got a million people know you just buried yourself with five million dollars somebody going to come out there with a shovel Ain't no doubt Somebody coming.
Speaker 2:There you go. It's more than worth their time to dig your dead ass up to get that money.
Speaker 1:Exactly If I sit up here and spend six hours digging your ass up for five million dollars.
Speaker 2:Hey, yeah.
Speaker 1:Get it Shalty. Somebody going to dig, yeah, dig with their hands for five million.
Speaker 3:You got to be a sick motherfucker. Yeah, you got to be sick though you got to be sick, but you got people don't care, because what you going to put, yourself through to get that money. What you going to have to see. You going to have to re-idea disturb a corpse.
Speaker 1:A corpse bro.
Speaker 2:Do you do it shortly after he's been buried or do you wait a couple years? I would hope so.
Speaker 3:I would hope you wouldn't wait a couple years, Because when you open up that casket it's going to be gruesome.
Speaker 1:I think people just don't care though.
Speaker 3:It's going to be gruesome Because they say it like I mean, you got to. They always be like. You know how they be like caskies. They might say you're a cask, oh it's an airtight casket. Well, I heard a funeral diary saying none of them are airtight. You know what I'm saying? It gets so messy on the ground. Now it was like when it rained your little one, they just floated around in the casket.
Speaker 2:I'm getting burned. You know what I'm saying? I'm getting cream out.
Speaker 3:So when you open up that casket. You don't know what you're going to see. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you do not know Gold and shit. Man, you feel like this is probably going to be bones in her and like real, real talk, because you underground bro, like this shit's not airtight, airtight wood.
Speaker 1:I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't. What's the word I'm looking for? I can disrespect somebody grave for no money.
Speaker 2:I couldn't disrespect nobody grave for anything, it's the idea of being buried in a casket to preserve the body.
Speaker 1:I think it's.
Speaker 2:Or is it just more?
Speaker 1:decorative If you want to preserve the body you can mummify somebody Do what? If you want to preserve a body, you mummify them.
Speaker 3:I think it's more decorative Giving them a quote, unquote of sending them off the right way, instead of just throwing them in the ground.
Speaker 1:A little piece of comfort, you know, like make them look at peace, yeah, make them look at peace.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what, that's how I view it, but think about how many humans way more humans have just been thrown in the ground than in a pine box or back in the day. Oh yeah, I mean, we've probably only been putting people in boxes for like 500 years or so. Yeah, like our ancestors used to just dig a hole or just kick them off the hill or something.
Speaker 3:You'd be surprised how many remains. People didn't found by just going out there digging up stuff Like just for real. People been out at four, five, hundred years, just digging up people bones. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:I'm reading this book right now. It's about the Sackler family. They were very influential in building the pharmaceutical industry in this country. Anyway, one of the Sacklers, arthur Sackler, he's the OG Sackler. He was obsessed with collecting Egyptian or well, collecting in general, but particularly like Asian art and art in general, and he got an entire I think it was like a pyramid from Egypt and had it shipped to New York and this thing was like, however many millions of years old or what, thousands of years old or whatever, and they rebuilt that pyramid in the museum, metropolitan Gallery of Art or some shit in New York. They moved a pyramid. Yeah, they moved a pyramid. They took it down, not a pyramid, it was made out. I forget what the fuck it was made out of. They do understand pyramid.
Speaker 1:They used to bury people that died working on it right, like slaves and stuff.
Speaker 2:Yes, it wasn't a pyramid, it was something. It was some structure that was made out of blocks.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's what I was thinking. I was going to say damn, I do that.
Speaker 1:How Excuse me I?
Speaker 3:will have some sense of uneasy feeling to like visit a period.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure it'd be cool to be looking at it from the outside. You didn't even get me going in there, but I think there's like a uneasy feeling, apparently those things are apparently.
Speaker 2:Those things are extraordinary, like encouraged. They don't know how they were built.
Speaker 1:And they still trying to go in there. They gonna learn.
Speaker 2:They still trying to go in the pyramids.
Speaker 1:Man food with mommy's all the time.
Speaker 2:Momifying is weird.
Speaker 1:You think it's weird.
Speaker 2:I think it is too, but like it, just I don't know it's just another, another form of Admirations, like celebration of death, I guess as a bear they used to bear them with all they stuff, like all the gold and everything.
Speaker 3:They starting to do some weird shit with, like the dead. Now I didn't see some shit through social media Like no lie. I seen one dude, his, his brother had passed and like he's a street dude. You know, I say I got a lot of money. He, he put on, he put the blunt at the funeral, put he the lit blunt in his brother mile. Bullshit, you, not you look this shit up. Had the blunt lit in his brother mile and everybody, whole family, just gathered around it, just celebrate, like I'm talking about. Disturbing is disturbing but you looking at this like it make you think this shit ain't real. But it's, it's real people doing shit like that and.
Speaker 3:I put no damn blood. Man and for one. My family ain't gonna let you even try. No bullshit like this.
Speaker 2:Think about how much weird shit went on before everybody had a fucking camera.
Speaker 3:Thank you, yeah, right now now you just able to see it. Think about all the shit we couldn't see because it went all man.
Speaker 2:Dude. I saw yesterday in the news where this lady had built up a YouTube channel with her business partner about how to Parent children and they arrested her for child abuse. Oh Wow yeah. That's crazy. She was like she built a channel, a YouTube channel, off of parenting, like her parenting style and teaching it to people, and what have you?
Speaker 1:and the whole time she was torturing these children. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:I believe money and it sounds like that, why they say you cannot believe everything you see, bro, I call. You can't believe everything you see. Everything you see ain't ain't what it is. Everything the glitter ain't go. I'm about to say that everything the glitter ain't go, ain't that? What a bunch a and what it's on. Yeah, yeah what's that?
Speaker 2:I've got four minutes.
Speaker 1:Everything sweet and everything that goes Go Hmm.
Speaker 3:I Hear somebody see, you got seat one time.
Speaker 1:That's who can sign, boy yeah yeah, I don't care. Nobody say like Between our lifetime. We ask me B-Singles dog man.
Speaker 3:Darn it the people that people don't talk about no of fun Darnia, john, oh call what was the name.
Speaker 1:Call time is called Thomas. Damn my boy right there. See, I couldn't.
Speaker 3:He's still like he doesn't kind of reinventing himself, but like the people that don't know about it, talk about them. Or like a fun Darnia John Call time. It's like music, soul, child. Music, soul, child, bro. Like man. We have some man Freakin, let's see.
Speaker 2:What is that 90s R&B? No, it's like didn't well.
Speaker 1:It's 90s too, but it's like early 2000s, real 2000s air R&B was hard too, now Reese's oh my god, yes, Cisco's Incomplete.
Speaker 3:I just heard that song yesterday, but I'm gonna tear it up.
Speaker 2:Listen to that be this guy had that silver hair for your.
Speaker 3:Even though it seems I may have everything. I don't want to be a lonely fool. This man said all of the money, the car, don't, none of this shit matter if I can't have you. That's love, bro. That's what. That's what this, this, that's what the world need right now. We need to talk about love mobile. Who has a?
Speaker 1:who is missing? You said us sure.
Speaker 3:I should. That's the goat. Well, I mean, you know us he. You know I'm talking about people that people don't really talk about.
Speaker 1:No, Usher, though usher started 90s, yeah, yeah, but see usher, man, usher is doing what I think he doing, what Drake is doing now. Well, he was a bit doing what Drake is doing now, but that way, what I mean by that is he keeping up with the time, like usher. Every freakin there are error he dropping and he'll have a hit with me. Go back and look it up. They just reinvented. Go back and look at usher. Always have a hit, no matter what error music. Yeah, it's gonna be something.
Speaker 2:That's equivalent to Nick Saban. Nick Saban changed with the times, or a coach that changes with the time Success over a long period of time. Yeah, more than likely, or they have to. They have to evolve, with you gonna have to.
Speaker 1:You gonna have to, it's gonna. You gonna get forced to, otherwise you're gonna continue to get your ass beat. That's right. So, I'm telling you bro. That's why that's why usher I'm telling you usher will forever be the goat to me and R&B because this man constantly you be like man ain't heard from no usher in the wild. They say no, he's dropping something out Like I did good, good, that shit. He got with something on it. It may got you ever thought you're gonna see a usher feature in 21 Savage song.
Speaker 3:No, exactly Know how to evolve with the time.
Speaker 1:He just know how to go. Bro, I'm telling you now, I don't he also.
Speaker 2:That shows he's also staying connected in Atlanta man.
Speaker 1:I don't disapprove with none of it, cuz you know. You know what need to be done.
Speaker 2:You know, and just for you, you doing it for them too before I lose this thought, I want to talk to you about this 1017 Gucci man with Zop.
Speaker 3:What drop?
Speaker 2:top is he. So he's a good talent identifier. But they are troubled souls. Pusha Stee didn't see, that's how he was, but didn't big scar, didn't he pass? Yeah he passed and then fully oh yeah yeah, like there's a fool.
Speaker 1:Oh food young.
Speaker 2:There's four or five of them that they're pretty damn good. Push ice in particular.
Speaker 1:Push ice, you like Pusha, I fuck with you like pusha, but I just been on you listen to big walk dog. Fuck, yeah, man, I love big.
Speaker 2:Walk dog.
Speaker 1:I love walk dog.
Speaker 2:Walk dog got them bars.
Speaker 1:Man, if anybody knows walk dog, please Put me in contact. I got some shit that I know he can wrap on. Well, I bet you it's gotta have a damn piano going.
Speaker 3:Definitely got some she cold tovin.
Speaker 1:Hey, go go walk dog team. He be snapping um. I think, though I think the most one, one of the most successful Like team building stories is your guy there, yeah yeah, see him.
Speaker 3:G.
Speaker 1:Definitely so undefeated. I fooled them.
Speaker 2:Also, with 1017, you've got walk dog, who is badass, you got big fizzle, you got cootie. Both of them both of them boys are from Arkansas and they can go. Yeah, so he's, he's got. He identifies good talent, but he's, you gotta be able to keep him on the roster.
Speaker 1:I think if push ice there and and on food, you didn't go to jail, it'll be a different ball game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it'd be a different ball game, I think a little bit of a setback.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he just did, he, he signed on. You know who TL Eastinco is he from? He from Alabama, he's from Belsman. Oh, he's from science by Gucci, from so and Sink oh, he already had a couple hits. Before he even got signed sink or dodo, he said, uh, check this, I'm checking off the checklist.
Speaker 2:Hey, maybe. How long did Gucci live in Bessamer?
Speaker 1:Gucci, because he be.
Speaker 3:He be claiming Atlanta.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Now, I know, I know he he's from, he from them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, he from there, where he from. Yeah, but like doesn't he hollers on foreign shit?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he grew up in Atlanta.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm pretty sure you grew up in Atlanta, but you're gonna claim where you grew up. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I'm born in Marie, but I grew up in Philly, you know but he's.
Speaker 2:It sounds like he spent like 10 or 12 years in Bessamer.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but it like he still have ties there, though it's like Rick Rose Shit. Rick Roe got time in.
Speaker 3:Mississippi even miss it Snoop Dogg from Mississippi. A lot of people don't know that. Yeah.
Speaker 2:There. They themselves were born in Mississippi, or their parents, no, they were born here, Snoop was born in McComb, wasn't he? Yeah, and then.
Speaker 1:Oprah.
Speaker 3:Oprah. He fell from.
Speaker 2:I claim, is what they were born cause yes, cause, yes, right.
Speaker 3:I think Ross was born in.
Speaker 2:That's dope, though, like that, just another piece of Mississippi dead for you don't know about so we've just got to have people that had their formative years here, which don't don't get me wrong we have had some of the most talented and well-known, well-renowned artists, writers, people that have participated in the arts that have ever existed in the United States of America, elvis Presley being one of them.
Speaker 3:I just feel like we got something different. It's in the water, it's in the water, it's something, is just something in the water, it's something in the water.
Speaker 1:Definitely. Yeah, got no trouble to have some talent down here. Look at the resources we got compared going up north. Hey, we making it, we making it happen. Yeah make a ham cam.
Speaker 3:I just feel like this will make our make, make us so good at our crap. Because we got to work there. We, I told I had another interview with somebody and I told him that I was like look how much harder we got to work as opposed to us not being from New York or some shit like. Then we got out of, we really got out of talent. We just ain't got the resources. A lot of them got the resources but they don't have half the time and I ain't taking it away from all, because some of them they can really go, but some of them got half the talent but they got the resource.
Speaker 1:I think, though, like a bigger, a bigger place like New York, atlanta, something like that is Saturated though it's, so it's like super over saturated. Like miss, if you, you gonna, I can find something, you gonna find singers here. You know you can find singers, you can find all that. But like you go to Atlanta, a lot of them probably trying to do the same thing. It's saturated, that's right. Really so they have to they have to to Find a way to stick out if you think about it, the South in general really runs.
Speaker 2:South got something to say pop culture and music, country music, hip-hop music. You look across the music, but musical spectrum it's either. Southern, southern artists or people heavily influenced by Southern artists like James Brown. Like it doesn't get any better than James Brown.
Speaker 1:Tabity.
Speaker 2:Elvis Presley, I Mean hell. Even right here in Philadelphia we've got Marty Stewart, otis Rush. We got too smooth too smooth on the rise coming up by the be.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna tell you I don't. I think this is what I think. I Think people, people want to wait till you get these accolades to give you your flowers, and I don't see why. If you don't, you just dope. I don't why you got the win, a award. You ain't got the win. Producer of the year for me to know.
Speaker 3:You five you see I'm saying, yeah, I ain't got a way to see you on BET. I'm looking at all the shit that you did before you got to be. That's what got you to be T you know. I'm saying the BT didn't just pick you and say, nah, like All this shit that he did before BET, that's what I'm looking at. But I'm gonna give your flowers the a lot of people. They want to wait till you get the Grammy. Man, I already shit. We always nah, fuck this. I'm fine now. Fuck, fuck when I make it to BET, fuck when I make it to the to the Grammy.
Speaker 1:Give me my flowers now cuz, if you fool me heavy, like you say you do, you know that's gonna happen.
Speaker 3:You know what you know is you know, they say, that's gonna be yeah, that's eventually is going to happen.
Speaker 1:So why not take this trip with me? Why I climbed to get there? Don't sit here and have to help, don't watch me. Find something to prop my own damn Ladder up so I can climb up this damn thing. And then now you want to. Yeah, I knew you, always knew you, and now hold the ladder for me.
Speaker 3:That's what they I have people say that now man, I'll, and I do appreciate it cuz some people are genuine about man. I always knew you, you this day and the third. But don't wait to a person Achieve and a crazy amount of success before you give them. They just do. Before you get them, they fly. I feel like that could be a little disrespectful to somebody who done put years of working in and then you be like man I, you know, I always knew you had it, you know saying like now I get that person, they fly when you see them put in the fucking working in another words to smooth saying Give my motherfucking flowers, give me my flowers.
Speaker 3:I don't work for them, bitch. Every one of every rose, every dandelion, every tulip, late nights early morning.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you said dandelion. But, yeah, it was our flowers.
Speaker 3:Man for real.
Speaker 1:I ain't saying I ain't saying I'm not gonna like fool anybody, like no, I'm a fool with you regardless, but you got your ones. That, like he said, I always knew you're gonna make it like. No, like, give me my support now that this is what people honestly don't know about what we do. This is the hard part of actually Like feeling the support. You know I'm saying we go out of town and we'll see a shit ton of support from a bunch of damn. I mean they had tables decked out with food and liquor and everything damn it.
Speaker 1:I said damn you feel me you know, and this ain't no attack, this ain't no attack on nobody in the hometown, like that. But I'm saying, if we just give that love, give the same love, reciprocated. You know, I'm saying because you never know, like st Louis, how they decked this shit out for us. That type of shit they're gonna always show them a little. They won't come back. Guess we're going back Cuz we know what they did. No first impression matters, bro. Yeah, I for real. Just keep that in mind.
Speaker 2:I was talking with worm the other day, I'd posed to him that we should start a music festival mm-hmm Field party music festival and Philadelphia, show the county all types of music and and make it a also told tophor suggestion to tophor wish you make Philadelphia the cultural hub of Mississippi, because there ain't nobody standing up right now saying hey, it's us, y'all come here, y'all come create with us. If you're an artist, come here. There ain't nobody saying I think.
Speaker 1:I think starting to some like, the hardest thing of anything is starting is to get started. But once you do it, once you do it, it become clockwork. It really becomes clockwork. Yeah, never, I never sat back and be like damn, I know, I know, I did not have a dream of being a producer at 10 years old. Never, I always do music, I mean, of course, but never they'll be like me. I'm gonna be a producer. But then turn around, look there, nick. Hey, I think I'm gonna start doing it, one to save us money, to it, just make life easy for both of us. But then we start becoming clockwork. This is clockwork. Now you know what I'm gonna do. Like what Andre three that you know I'm gonna do it so that I think, if it was to start something down here, everybody like, yeah well, we know how the first one went and just try to come up ways to make it better for the next year and keep it going. Nobody else doing it. You gonna have people criticize you regardless. So my will do it.
Speaker 3:That how I look at people gonna find something negative to say I don't care, like, it don't matter what, you don't. They go, they gonna find something. They gonna have something negative to say about this when they come out. They gonna find something. If this, if this episode reaches enough people, you gonna have one or two people in the coming.
Speaker 1:And guess what? Oh, no doubt. And guess what? I don't give a fuck, like I don't care.
Speaker 3:I mean and it may not be about what we talk about I take on something about the color this couch they knit, bro.
Speaker 3:They'll be in my video. Why his nails? What? They could not come out later color, why is there so long? Then somebody else a comment. But see, I'm gonna tell you this the good part about having people, fans who really fuck with you have somebody say well, he got them near time. I he gone, use his hand to do this with you. Have somebody's coming up Well, at least it near clean. Yep, see, I'm saying see, sometimes you ain't got, you ain't gotta fight all your battles.
Speaker 1:Yep, and now look at this way. You need comments. In a way, you need that. So now I got this negative comment, but it's still a comment.
Speaker 1:So, thank you for the staff for one and two. Now I got another comment with somebody defending me. Now I got support and and I got support and two comments and Four views and then other people probably see y'all arguing under my damn pose and now I got more people coming to my pose. Thank you for this free publicity. That's all it is. That's how you got to look at it. I didn't have people to man did. I didn't did beat reviews. They black man, they beat trash is hail one of his songs. Like a player, I think I told you Like a player.
Speaker 3:I sent it into a beat review. Most underrated song on my catalog man like a player.
Speaker 1:I, I sent that beat it was to. It was to beat reviews, I'd rather do beat views. But the first one man, hey, I was the last beat of that night and they fuck with that beat hard. He said, man, like they were giving out stars and stuff. I shot a producer grab. That was like man, hey, man, it'd be dope life for real. Man, probably about a week later it's this other dude, he did one and I sent the same beating man, hella, did it sound like a Damn porno from the start of something.
Speaker 1:Hey, huh, I was confused there. I like, okay, well, you know, whatever, whatever, but shit like that just made me go hard. Okay, well, that's, that's it. Yeah, I'm gonna make something else on your ass, but just know I'm always remember that. That's why I always say, bruh, when you do reviews, be careful what you say. I don't, I don't, I don't be like I will flame your ass, but I'm more so will help you. Like when I did a music review, the main thing I kept telling people hey, well, your quality just not there. I'm not saying that your trash, you just need. You need to either look up to how to make your quality sound better or go to the studio and do it. You know, just do it like that. They got people man, that's it. Trash your foot. That's just how, like a porno, nick did a song on that bitch. Look at it Killed it, thank you. That's why I'm saying what one person don't like, somebody else gonna love it.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, I mean everything I would say everything ain't for everybody. I'm always remember that, though, and well, I mean, you got to as a as a person. You got to take criticism in stride, and you got to use it and and channel it in a positive way for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know this fuel some people, people who, who do reviews or whatever, and they just bash people who are actually trying to get your approval.
Speaker 2:That's my whole shit.
Speaker 1:But then, like when that person boss up, they like see, I mean you just got to take their criticism and use it. They're gonna do that anyway. You know, I'm saying like if you tell me my quality is not good. I'm just gonna try to make my quality better. But at least you give me advice. You ain't sitting up here. Ah, man, that's your trash. You fuck that. Why the fuck you even doing?
Speaker 3:this criticism? That's, that's criticism. Yeah, this is fake, is this is fake this spec.
Speaker 1:So when you now look at it, how this shit turning out, and bro got some, bro got placements, they did. I don't give a fuck though, yeah, whatever. But who's to say now, the shoe can always, you know, I'm saying the tables can always turn, no doubt, tables always turn. So now, who to say isn't the ball in my court? Now you probably won't come do something me, hey. But oh, I remember you, I'm gonna remember. I make no, I made that I make porno music, remember and see I screen shot stuff too.
Speaker 3:I Screen shot to take a picture is something disrespectful. So, just two years from now, if our payoffs just happen across again and you want to reach out or what it I'm, I'm gonna show you this. I did you this. You right here. Okay, I ain't gonna even be this, but I ain't gonna work with you. Yeah, it's not, I'm not gonna work with you. Not being petty.
Speaker 1:It's not being real, it's just being real. I rather you give me true criticism, like because that wasn't criticism.
Speaker 3:That's this you tried to disrespect me, you try to do shit. I didn't do nothing to you to deserve what you said, to try to get it he, he, hey.
Speaker 1:So you try to get a he he instead of the center paper. Like man, look, I think you need to do this next time. Sing out like this, sound like they make your beat, like they you. This that's criticism. Criticism because you actually do want to see your.
Speaker 1:Structive criticism and I can take it. But you got some who can't take a structure criticism. I just on them. Now you got other artists who can't take that shit for nothing. And if you can't take a structure criticism, you've been not ever seen me. Nothing. Gotta be coachable. There, there you go, man. I go back to the Atlanta thing. I ever go to a lamp, I Said. I said I will always do this with. I ever go and actually get in the session with a bunch of people who's already on. Guess what I'm gonna do shut the fuck up. And I'm really gonna shut up and listen and look, cuz I want to see how y'all operate. I don't know, ain't never been did that before. I Feel so am I? Yeah, like I think I'm. I'm so much of a sponge bro. I call.
Speaker 1:I call Nick Brevin, I learned something new. And be like bro, I just learned this. Or I want to learn this, you know, that's just how it is, but some folks ain't coachable bro.
Speaker 3:Got to be coachable.
Speaker 2:I want to get y'all's opinion on this before we wrap it up. Dion Sanders.
Speaker 1:Goat. Do y'all like have?
Speaker 2:y'all been keeping up with how he's handling his new job at Colorado.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so what?
Speaker 2:so he overturned the roster almost completely the First one to ever do it. It's within the guidelines, it's within the rules. He's got 86 new kids on that roster and Came out one day this past week. Two things he said there is no culture. He said it's all about winning and basically he doesn't care if the kids get along so long as they're winning. And and he also said that he's not a Florida State Seminole, that he graduated from Talladega College. He said a lot of Polarizing things in some people's eyes. Do y'all Support and agree with the way Dion's handling Colorado? I?
Speaker 3:Feel like at the end of the day, it's gonna boil down to winning, simple as that I always do. I mean, people can try to make it out to be something other than it, but Regardless of Everything that you see it, he said if he go on to have a winning season, nobody's gonna talk about what he said, not a damn one person.
Speaker 3:It's not gonna matter. I Ain't saying that cuz he black. I ain't saying that cuz he Dion Sanders. I ain't saying that cuz he in the hall of fame. I'm saying it because if he go on to have a winning season, ain't nobody gonna curtain. Nothing is he knew it, colorado, what he did at Jackson State, ain't nobody gonna curb her.
Speaker 1:You, you, you, you tipped on culture, oh. So my thing is, whatever Colorado did before he got there, it got you. Y'all record that y'all had last year Is that prior to him coming there? So honestly and I we said it before we even got on her Whatever the hell he do, if he just win one more game is better than what he did, which I did before he got there. So Sometimes, man, that go back to the stubborn shit that I was speaking on.
Speaker 1:Whatever y'all used to do didn't work. Try something else, do something else, cuz you losing a lot of people. This is how you lose Interaction with this generation, with whatever you ain't going with the time. I ain't finna, I'm not finna. Do all this old-fashioned stuff. No more. Like yo, we like, let's say, for instance, with the band and stuff I play band at UWA bro. So my first year was a lot of traditional stuff, straight traditional stuff. I'll fight song First down white fuck, touch it. Yeah, I went on at far but. But you know, but the band at the time was majority black, so True enough. Naturally, we finna bring in our culture along with more up-to-date stuff. So eventually it changed from the kickoff we playing freaking Go big red to now. Oh yeah, and we all got some red men we playing boozy.
Speaker 2:I like that way more.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and you are white. So like I'm being honest, like it went from us, go big. So now we playing boozy Football, team height, knocking somebody out. They damn cleat off a kickoff because they hear some damn boozy, we that's. That's. That's the new culture now. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:I hope Deion goes undefeated.
Speaker 1:I really do too, bro. I hope I hope.
Speaker 2:I think that what he's doing is Proving that there's more than one way to skin a cat. Now, what you said, nick, is obviously the truth. If, if he goes one and eleven, or just, I mean, let's say he has a sub par season, you know, wins less than he loses, has a losing season it's not gonna be as important if he goes on the wind like what he was saying. But he really is just a Different version of the way he was coached at Florida State. I mean, it sounds to me like his defensive coordinator his name escapes me right now coached similar, similarly to the way Deion coaches very in your face. Someone call it old school, but the thing that Deion does very, very well is that he is able to be flashy and flamboyant but also get up in your ass.
Speaker 1:He'll praise you the same way. He'll come down on you and he's.
Speaker 2:He's like discipline is important. A lot of people look at flashy and Flamboyant and think Undisciplined.
Speaker 3:Well, he's confident he is that and and that. And Confidence tends to rub an insecure person wrong. Yes, very much so it does. When you you what, you gonna get mad at him for being confident. He's always been that way. You have never known him to be any other way than how he is now.
Speaker 1:So am I right or?
Speaker 3:am I wrong?
Speaker 1:What's he saying when you look good? Look good, feel good play good, look good. Like yo shit hell. So what Hell? I can look good because I play good, I feel good. So what that?
Speaker 3:man said look at me. What make you think? What the fuck did he say? He said the opinion that you have of me is not the opinion that I have of myself. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Did y'all see the spat with Danny Cannell? I did Between Deon and Danny Cannell, right, all right. So there was an interview. Deon was in an interview this week and he was told that he's a seminal. But Warren Sapp visited Colorado this week. He was at practice. Blah, blah, blah. The lady was asking Deon a question in the press conference and she said but he's a hurricane in your seminal. And he said oh, oh, hold on, I ain't no seminal, he's like. I graduated from Talladega College, hbcu.
Speaker 3:That what Deon said?
Speaker 2:Yes, Danny Cannell saw that clip and basically said something to the effect of there's a way to handle this question and the way Deon answered it, is not it? I guess he was insinuating that Deon was disrespectful to Florida State because Florida State let him be Deon, and Deon roasted his ass. In a response he was like ain't nobody ever let Deon be Deon, but Deon I've been this way I've been him.
Speaker 3:I've been him. I feel like, though, I've been him.
Speaker 1:They be trying to blatantly disrespect him in his face and then like just the media and then when he, when he lashed back they can't take it, and that's what I.
Speaker 2:that's what I like about him the most is Deon says what's on his mind. He doesn't filter it based off of how it's going to be perceived in the media. All he cares about is making that seemingly making Colorado better.
Speaker 1:And they throw them a little rock and hit that man all day until he decided to throw a big ad brick. And now y'all want to pressure everybody how to get, but hurt. Yeah, that ain't how they, that ain't how you know what type of person he is.
Speaker 2:They're always been one way and they're fucking over. The NFL is fucking over Michael Irvin. Have y'all seen that shit? I think I know what you're talking about. Oh, thank God. So Michael Irvin was accused of sexually harassing a woman at the hotel Marriott Hotel.
Speaker 1:He stayed at, I see.
Speaker 2:And I think it was Arizona went for the Super Bowl in February and I have a video too like he they've got a video but there's no audio. But I mean, if you watch the video and that's all the evidence you have to go off of plus witnesses. And witnesses are saying didn't shit happen. The video is saying didn't shit happen? And they're still have having suspended or fired and he's yet to get back on television because it's stupid of those allegations.
Speaker 1:So back to what I said earlier get them stubborn assholes about this power. That's what they need to do. I'm telling you, bro, I went my having Michael Irvin, my boss. I wouldn't either Readee like Uncle Shay. Shay man, you not know. Club.
Speaker 2:Shay Shay man dude, I thought Shay Shay was gonna put them hands on a job of ranch daddy.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, you see the head they ain't run up. Bro, have you seen?
Speaker 3:Dude, he was seen. You seen, stephen A Can't we say you ever seen a?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we seen a Some of us. Never seen a what's it up.
Speaker 4:What's your wall? They're like no, but it ain't pretty, you see.
Speaker 1:Stephen A and Shannon's interview and he and Stephen A Like I knew at that moment that it was over with when they were talking. You know after what happened with Hamlin and stuff, what happened with her oh, demar Hamlin, you know. You know the show. You know when Skip made that tweet.
Speaker 2:What he did, what he say Skip's a dumb ass. He's not a dumb ass, but he's a. He's a little skill, he's a peculiar individual.
Speaker 1:I used to love Skip, but lately he re-adeal. He liked to say shit, now just to get in the press. Yeah, and. I understand your position of your job, but at the same time, you got a lot of come on now, what did what?
Speaker 2:did he do? I think it was?
Speaker 1:it was something like that. It was a very important game and they should have kept that game going after that happened and stuff. An insensitive comment. It was just insensitive, and you know, true enough, the internet is not a place to be sensitive on, by far no please, please, do not be sensitive on it.
Speaker 3:You can't be.
Speaker 1:You can't take shit to heart on the internet.
Speaker 1:Because the internet is a place my band already say this shit all the time. The internet is just a place to give people who are scared or a dumb ass of voice. That's all it is so. But they just stay right to say what they want to say on the internet, because I can't physically touch you. When once you piss me off, but coming from skill and you working with a man who then played in the NFL, who's a Hall of Fame this day and a third, you know how he feel about that situation man died. They had to save him. You shouldn't say anything. That got do with nothing about that, except you praying for that man and left alone. He's stupid. Yeah, he's stupid. I don't give a shit. I never come in on celebrity posts. I come in and say, man, you stupid shit. I just wish that they see it.
Speaker 2:That situation, coupled with the Brony James situation, has me worried that something's going on.
Speaker 1:You know that's not the first time it happened. At USC, though that happened. I think it was a year before A player had the same thing happen.
Speaker 2:I think he's got Cardi Agery. Some people speculate that the vaccines have something to do with it.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's the vaccine.
Speaker 3:I think one vaccinated. Do what you want me to tell you what I think this is. I'm going to tell you. Seriously, it got a lot to do with the food that we're consuming. Believe it or not it's the food that, but the food that we're consuming, bro it's killing us, bro.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're saying the people that are falling out. It's because of the food that we're eating.
Speaker 3:It just tastes so good, it's in the food. Think about how many young people in their 30s that are dying from heart attack. I know I have two of my friends close friends died. One was 37. The other one was 33, I think. Heart attack, bro. You're not supposed to die from a heart attack when you're 30. When you're 30. It's not supposed, you're not really supposed to die from a heart attack, no way. But let alone being in your 30s. These are your prime years and these people dropping dead from a heart attack. It's in the food, bro, this processed food that we love so much and I'm a fast food lover, show tastes, good Lover. It's in the food, bro. What else can it be? What else can it be? People can say it's the vaccination. I believe it's the food, bro, because everybody ain't vaccinated and they still dying from heart attack.
Speaker 1:But everybody eat fast food. I think, personally, people try to find a vaccine. They use a vaccine as an excuse to just be oblivious to the actual problem. Sometimes I'm not saying look your belief, your belief. If you against it, be against it. But when shit hit the fan for somebody who did take it, don't blame the vaccine, because people who did take the vaccine. When shit hit the fan for somebody who didn't take the vaccine, the person with the vaccine gonna say, well, your ass should have took the vaccine. So that's what I'm going to do. You know, we just basically doing this. Stop doing this and do this. Focus on that. That's the problem. This is what it is. But y'all, y'all going stream all this music. Stream stream too smooth, pay for it, search up too smooth, search up cold making moves. Working on the album yes, sir, working on the next album.
Speaker 2:Is that you working on the next two smooth album? Are you doing a producer?
Speaker 3:He's out, he's out, yes, sir.
Speaker 2:Let me get on that bitch.
Speaker 1:Come on, we gonna talk for real Because I ain't gonna cap this one. I wanted to be. This is my take on. I'm gonna say this so we can wrap it up. This is my take on albums. Like you doing albums, your next album really don't supposed to sound like your first one. I think you need to have your production gets better. You know, damn the music like, of course the theme of your song, like smooth hotel, is R&B. So if Nick drop another R&B album, of course it's gonna be R&B, but I want the production to be better. I want it to sound a little more clear. I want us to try new things, a new sound, whatever. That's how I do. I like albums Stepping outside of that comfort zone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like Travis Scott albums, His shit always sound different every time. You're not gonna get an album that always sound the same I think that's a true representation of an artist truly being an artist and making what they feel like they're supposed to make in that time?
Speaker 1:Now it don't always work, but, like what I'm saying is, though a lot of artists, they'll try to do a different genre, though with that, don't do a different genre. Try to stay in your genre, but just make your production sound more cleaner, like, let me, I got some new equipment, now Let me try to utilize this on this album. This album is gonna sound like my new album is literally gonna sound way more powerful than my first one.
Speaker 2:Cole making moves. We don't give a fuck about how you feel.
Speaker 3:Well, everybody be putting new views and new everything on your way.
Speaker 1:All type of custom words in my tag.
Speaker 2:Cole making moves. We don't care about how you feel, is that it? Yeah, cole making moves?
Speaker 1:we don't care about how you feel. I had to improv on that thing. I had somebody, I had to improvise Cole. I had somebody tell me. I know they say look, cole, I know that you don't really care about how we feel, but I'm really ready for this album. I holler. Hey, I liked it. I liked it that's.
Speaker 3:that's that could turn into a thing. I'm telling you that could be a thing.
Speaker 1:Cole, love my tag bro. And I never expected the tag to go like that.
Speaker 3:I never. I know you don't care about how I feel, you know, but but I like that.
Speaker 1:I'm ready for this album. Yeah, Like they do that I'm saying, bro, shout out, I'm Nick you name. Shout out Nick Finch and my homeboy, Nick Finch man. I'm telling you, bro, like they. You got my name, boy, you better, but they, I'm telling you, bro, people do that type of stuff and it it make you feel good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1:Because people, people really deal like they, they pay attention and people that support, like that, are all way full with you. Hey, don't let it be so long next time. It ain't man that ain't. I'm going to give you something you can play too, before the thing starts.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, y'all run this bitch back. We appreciate y'all. Kelly, hold on before we go.
Speaker 3:I got some advice for people that's upcoming doing a thing, whether it's podcast and business, whatever whatever you doing, if you truly believe in it, if you got a passion for it, if you love it, stay consistent, man. It's going to work. It's going to work. But it ain't going to work if you don't stay consistent. If you get tired, take a break and come back. Don't take no long ass break now. Don't stay gone too damn long, but keep going. Stay consistent. Consistency, believe in yourself number one, perfecting your craft and working hard and staying consistent is going to happen. I'm a living witness, he a living witness.
Speaker 3:We have seen more progress in the last six months than we have seen in the last six years. We got the numbers to show it Six months of us just putting our head down and just grinding. We outworked ourselves by 12 times what we did in the last six years. No lie, number wise, money wise, everything. We will post the damn, whatever the receipts to show you. In the last six months, everything changed. So stay consistent. If you believe in something, if you know you got something, man, keep going, it's going to happen. That's all I got to say. Keep streaming that music. Too smooth, cold, making moves. I don't know what the fuck.
Speaker 1:my name was Cold making moves too smooth Ay.
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Speaker 3:He always says don't tell pe compartment.
Speaker 2:Don't tell, don't tell anyone what to do.
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