The Empowerment Couple

Collaboration Over Competition: The New Leadership Paradigm

Zuri Star & Mikey Star Season 6 Episode 8

The competitive model of success is collapsing, and for good reason. When we collaborate instead of compete, our organizations see 70% higher job satisfaction and dramatically lower burnout rates. But making this shift requires more than just a change in strategy—it demands a complete nervous system reset.

Collaboration isn't just better for our health and happiness; it's better for business too. Female-led organizations are growing twice as fast as male-led ones precisely because they're embracing collaborative approaches. Rather than focusing on single problems through a competitive lens, collaborative leaders tackle multiple solutions simultaneously, building communities that magnify impact through shared purpose.

This episode unpacks the powerful difference between push-based leadership (driven by cortisol and scarcity) and pull-based leadership (guided by passion and abundance). We explore how both men and women can balance their masculine and feminine energies to become unstoppable forces for positive change. As we share, "Movements are born when women say 'enough,' but they last when women say 'together.'"

Whether you're building a business, leading a team, or simply trying to create more meaningful connections in your life, this conversation offers practical guidance for shifting from competition to co-creation. We share five actionable strategies to help you lead collaboratively, including how to deprogram the scarcity voice that whispers "if I help her, I'll lose my edge."

Remember: your growth isn't measured by who you've passed, but by how deeply you've returned to yourself. The only person you're truly competing with is who you were yesterday. Journal with us on where you might still be operating from competition, who you could uplift today, and what success sourced from synergy (not striving) might feel like in your body and work.

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Speaker 1:

I'm already laughing. What.

Speaker 2:

I'm just here to tell you, just here to tell you, yes, that without you I wouldn't be as good as I am with you. That is the full power of collaboration. I'm going to wait and allow you to say the same thing Go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I can't compete with that.

Speaker 2:

That's it. The whole show is about collaboration and competing. I gave you some cup. Okay, you're done.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Empowerment Couple Podcast, where your path to self-mastery expands. My co-host is Empowerment.

Speaker 2:

Coach Zuri Starr and he's expansion coach, Mikey Starr.

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Together we are the Empowerment Couple. Our mission is simple to serve you love, so you can make informed decisions to regain and maintain your personal power.

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We'll take you on a journey to a life filled with purpose, passion and limitless possibilities, while sharing stories of transformation, wellness hacks and healthy habits backed by science and ancient wisdom.

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Plus, we'll keep you entertained with engaging games, banter and funny innuendos along the way.

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Each episode is an exciting blend of education, entertainment and empowerment.

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Designed to help you create a mindset to be a magnet for more love, happiness and abundance.

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Together with our special guests. We are dedicated to sharing information that empowers you to create your most beautiful life A onesie, a twosie, a threesie your most beautiful life.

Speaker 3:

I got nothing. I got nothing. You're supposed to say something. I forgot. I got nothing. I got nothing.

Speaker 1:

You're supposed to say something I forgot.

Speaker 2:

I can say something right now that will make you laugh, and I won't even say it, and you'll still laugh.

Speaker 1:

No, I will laugh at the funny face that you make when you're like don't laugh, and then I'll laugh. Because I'm right on the verge of a giggle at all times, because that's just who I am, so I'll laugh. Because I'm right on the verge of a giggle at all times, because that's just who I am, so I can laugh easily. From scarcity to synergy we're going to talk about why collaboration is the outdated model of success driven by fear, scarcity and hyper competition, and offer a powerful collaborative vision for a new paradigm of leadership.

Speaker 2:

I love that.

Speaker 1:

This episode is meant to empower visionary leaders, and especially women, to lead with love, co-create from energetic alignment and grow through proximity rather than pressure.

Speaker 2:

That's the way you're supposed to do it anyways.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

We grow together, not separately.

Speaker 1:

Right. What if your next breakthrough, client or collaboration, isn't a hustle away but a vibration away?

Speaker 2:

So it's literally thoughts.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's thoughts, it's your nervous system, it's your. How often are you tuning into your heart?

Speaker 1:

and what your heart wants to do, getting into your soul and purpose work. So I think let's just share a little personal story. So both of us are coaches. If you're new, if you're not part of our Empowered Posse, we are both coaches. Mike's an expansion coach, I'm an empowerment coach, and a lot of my clients are leaders, and what I have found is that collaboration is always better than competition, and what happens, especially in the beginning, is that you get really focused on what everyone else is doing and then you start being competitive just by nature, whether you're male or female, our culture promotes that.

Speaker 2:

Well, one thing that I've noticed, kind of actually watching your career, is that one of the reasons why you are as successful as you are, in both the food movement and also coaching, is that you are a natural born collaborator. Right born collaborator right. And on top of that, you were able to seize a tool social media which is a huge collaborative tool, and utilize it and were able to spread that wealth. It's not like you held on to that information. You actually use that information to empower others, other leaders, yeah.

Speaker 1:

In the beginning of my building of tribes, I would just have nonstop free sessions to teach people how to use social media to organize around their issue and to empower them to share as much as possible and collaborate, and it definitely was a part of my business model. Everything was about crowd sharing and like how can I help you and can you help me?

Speaker 1:

And we did a lot of bartering and you know way before um, like the playing field on social media is now pay to play, um, but there's still collaboration. There's still opportunity to um collaborate and not just give all your money away to meta or, you know, tik TOK or wherever you are working, youtube. There's ways to collaborate and if you look at the trajectory of all social media creators or leaders or people in the space of really any industry, they collaborate.

Speaker 2:

Well, I do believe that the competitive model is definitely coming to a collapse. Yes, and we see that we have the old way, which is to compete, to win, to dominate, right. That's how America has kind of been born Hustle, hustle, hustle right. And now we're entering a culture where, in order for us to move forward, we all have to work together right, so that the hyper-competitive, cortisol-driven leadership is now starting to fade, which is great because, instead of having these cortisol-driven leadership models where you're just bound to burn out right, you have more opportunities where one can actually utilize the strength of the group and therefore also celebrate the strengths of themselves at the same time.

Speaker 1:

Right, which is like a lot of fight or flight.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly so. You know, it's a removal of the scarcity mindset and an inclusion now into the mindset that there is enough for everyone, right? And you know, also, which I love to see is that you have more and more women stepping up. So there's, the male-dominated industries are now starting to get saturated with this new, fresh energy. Where it is no longer dominate, win, compete. It's more like hey, we can all do this together. It's all inclusive, exactly, it's all inclusive. Exactly.

Speaker 2:

There was a 2020 study in the Journal of Organizational Behavior, and they found out that competitive work cultures increased burnout by 52%, while collaborative cultures increased retention and job satisfaction by over 70%. Right, so it's like that's the way to go. You know, fear creates short-term wins, but long-term depletion yes, right.

Speaker 1:

Long-term depletion. That's what we want to avoid Awesome. Well, let's look at the energetics of collaboration. So if you take proximity and you add alignment, you will get expansion. When we collaborate from a place of resonance, we can really collapse time.

Speaker 2:

And I like that concept of collapsing time. I mean when you have one person reaching for that top pinnacle, it's going to take time.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Right, it's going to take so much time, whereas the minute you collaborate, you join efforts of everyone's experience, and what could take 10, 15 join efforts of everyone's experience, and what could take 10, 15 years could literally be done overnight.

Speaker 1:

Right, right. And so mirror neurons mean collaboration literally boosts oxytocin, aka the bonding chemical. So collaborative environments they lower cortisol, they increase trust and they create psychological safety, all of which then boosts performance and innovation. There's another study out of Harvard Business Review that reports that high-trust collaborative teams show 50% more productivity, 76% more engagement and 106% more energy at work.

Speaker 2:

I like that 106 percent. It's like that extra six percent. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there is this great quote. It's like an unknown quote, but I love. I think about this a lot when I'm in collaboration, which is often with clients and coalitions that I'm in. You can't compete with me. I want us both to win.

Speaker 2:

That's that's beautiful. Yeah, I should tattoo that on my arm.

Speaker 1:

But Because collaboration is a nervous system strategy as much as it is a business one.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, most certainly.

Speaker 1:

When we win and when we operate from, let's say, pull, like you're being pulled by a passion versus push. You will obviously get so much further in whatever mission you've created, whatever your purpose work is. If you're constantly pushing yourself to do the thing, then you're going to burn out. But if you are being driven by a pull from the universe like a calling, you're going to have such a better experience and you want to work with people who have that same mission.

Speaker 1:

Like I always say, when I am working with different clients and I'm like you know who maybe are hiring, it's like always hire the most passionate person, because passion cannot be taught.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

And you can teach a passionate person anything and they will actually want to learn on their own and become the best at it because they have passion. And it's also why I teach clients how to have fun so that they can call in more flow and of abundance, wealth, divine wisdom and wellness. More flow and of like abundance, wealth, divine wisdom and wellness. Like if you have more fun in your environment and you make your pursuit, your entrepreneurial pursuit, fun, it's all going to flow.

Speaker 2:

And how you make it fun of course how you make it fun is is is to go from a winning concept, which is an ego-based concept, and you bring it all the way back down to the heart, and the heart is going to allow you to collaborate. It's going to be more. That's what the oxytocin is all about right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so it also brings it back when we were talking about social media. I always tell clients this is not about collection, this is about connection. If you use social media not as a numbers game but as a connection game, you're A going to feel so much more fulfilled. You're not going to be watching for how many likes, views et cetera that you have, and you're just going to be looking for the moments that you have in connection, connection points. Because the truth is that the only person I'm competing with is who I was yesterday.

Speaker 1:

And the same is true for you. That is straight up, Because yeah, your growth isn't measured by who you've passed, but how deeply you've returned to yourself. Boom shakalaka.

Speaker 2:

That is beautiful. That is beautiful, you know what?

Speaker 1:

I think it's time for a game.

Speaker 2:

I think it's time for a game.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we're cruising right into the game zone. This game is called you Versus you, because that's, that's really everything right, yeah, you versus you.

Speaker 2:

And we're not talking about sheep, we're talking about you as a person. We're ewes, or?

Speaker 1:

sheep. Okay, um, competitive you versus collaborative you. We'll do this little spin that meets our show, where we are looking to go. So, as I was just saying, the only competition is you versus you, but we're going to play, so we are going to shift the pattern, align the frequency and choose your next level self, level, self. So this is a reflective side-by-side game that will help us explore how you show up when operating from competition, which is like fear and ego, versus collaboration, which is like heart, love, soul, and what we're going to do is there's three steps.

Speaker 1:

So there's going to be the competitive view, the collaborative view, and your embodiment, challenge or your habit, you know, your new standard. That's going to kind of lock it in.

Speaker 2:

Where the rubber hits the road.

Speaker 1:

Right, so it might be a belief, a behavior or energetic pattern. And the challenge then you know the embodiment challenge. It will ask you to upgrade to your. You know your next level. Your higher self, yeah, yeah yeah, so here's some common themes that we see with our clients and even in our community struggle with. So I'm going to start with nervous system, because that's a huge one. All of our clients have that.

Speaker 1:

All of our clients have that and I'm going to use myself so competitive me believed that rest was equals laziness. Okay. Competitive me I was like, oh, I'll sleep when I'm dead. I'm not joking. I used to say that shit, sleep when I'm dead. I used to say, um, like, oh, I don't really need a lot of sleep and I would, you know, be thinking about winning.

Speaker 2:

And on top of that I've also seen you with that little adrenaline. You know when you get a super download you'll go another 10, 15 hours on top of a regular workday. I'm like sorry you got to stop.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you're like I can't, I got to keep going.

Speaker 2:

I got to download. I was like keep going. I got to download.

Speaker 1:

It's like okay, yeah. And also I will say that I would also apologize or make excuses when I did need to rest, because I would basically burn out. And then I'd be like I don't know what's wrong with me, maybe it's this and I would literally explain myself into like not feeling well, but also make sure that whoever I was around knew like oh, I'm still okay, I'm just exhausted. But I'm not going to say I'm exhausted. I don't know why I'm so tired, knowing full well that I spent like 24 hours working my ass off. So that's the competitive me that I have since let go of. The collaborative me would be like no panicking, pausing, just pause. Like I pause much, much more often, and so what I've learned to embody the practice is that I let myself rest to receive. So I often say like rest, breathe and receive. Like old me would have panicked.

Speaker 2:

new me breathes aligns and I choose differently and let me tell you once you, you uh, have command of your nervous system. Like your whole world opens up, it's lovely, yeah.

Speaker 1:

and why nervous system is so important is that you can only attract what you align to. So, with my clients, I'm often teaching them wellness habits so that their nervous system is in a place where they can attract the big dream that they have. So another one is leadership. Do you want to take that one?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm doing leadership and again, just like a nervous system, a lot of my clients are high ranking in their fields and when it comes to leadership, they're having issues with how to move forward without burning out. So, with that competitive self, they'll be asking things or saying things. Like you know, if I stop, they're going to take my spot right. You get that Jones effect right, whereas the collaborative me would be like you know what. There's space for us all. My power grows when others rise with me, right, and I've said-.

Speaker 1:

So you're coaching them in that way I'm coaching them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the best leader knows how to delegate, and when you don't know how to delegate, you're literally expanding your reach. Right, you're using-.

Speaker 1:

Automate delegate or eliminate.

Speaker 2:

Exactly right. So the challenge, of course, would be in your office, in your field, on your team, see who's doing a good job and, instead of looking at them in envy and trying to take them down, give them some kudos.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. Celebrate them, because the truth is is that nobody can take your spot. There's nobody, that's you, and so, really, you are only competing with the version that you were yesterday.

Speaker 2:

Correct, and when you do that, do this practice. It literally opens you up to your greatness. Exactly Then you have an opportunity to shine.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, yes, I love it. Okay, one thing that I see over and over again there's a pattern about ideas and creativity. Oh God, yes, yes and so I would say that the clients that have challenges with that they will be like and I really resonate with this because I definitely recognize that I had some of this happening in my early stages of just being an entrepreneur is that you would come up with an idea and then all of a sudden, somebody else has the same idea, yeah, or similar, because we're all sharing consciousness.

Speaker 1:

Like there's no such thing as original thought and we're all connected, you know. But that doesn't soothe your soul when you're in that feeling of scarcity. So the competitive version would be that was my idea first and then the collaborative version would be like great minds, sync up, let's build something better together. Because the truth is, like you said, you can collapse time, so might as well collaborate. Okay, so then the embodiment challenge for that would be like invite someone to co-create a piece of content or collab on like an Instagram reel. Co-create a piece of content or collab on like an Instagram reel.

Speaker 2:

Like somebody who's in your field, like you know. Raise their shine and you know you'll win together. Yeah, we're essentially asking you to do the exact opposite of crabs in a bucket, right? Yes, let's allow all the crabs in the bucket to lift that crab up.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

And then once that crab's up, that crab can kind of pull everyone out right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because that's where the happiness actually lives is, when you all win together and like. You will do a lot of suffering if you do crabs in a bucket, like for sure.

Speaker 2:

Well, another.

Speaker 1:

What about money?

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, and I was going to say. Another field really is money and business. Okay, All of our clients are out there, they're making money and a lot of them are still kind of functioning in that competitive mindset right where they need to outsell everyone, they need to get that promotion and in corporate, that makes a lot of sense. However, you can still incorporate a collaborative mindset and instead of competitive me would say something like I need to outsell everyone. This launch and collaborative me would be something like the collaborative me would be my aligned clients always find me and there's more than enough for all of us and that's the honest truth and it feels better to say that and it opens up all of the chakras in order to make that actually happen.

Speaker 1:

So it's amazing and it's the truth, like lack and limitation will give you that and expansiveness will give you that, and it's true. I mean, if you think about how many billions of people there are on this planet and you have one launch, chances are you're going to align with your people if you are not looking at conquer status. You know if you're not having that energy of like I have to crush this or else everything is over.

Speaker 2:

It has to be a waterfall instead of a trickle. It all starts with a trickle.

Speaker 1:

It starts with a trickle.

Speaker 2:

Well, a good challenge for this would be to reach out to a peer and ask how you can support their next launch or their next endeavor Be part of their come up.

Speaker 1:

Yep, and you know in the beginning be a supporting character Be an affiliate, for example. Be something where you are going to learn and you're going to grow in your own way. Don't be afraid to do that. Visibility is a crazy one, so being seen essentially. So I'm going to do that. Competitive me. So competitive me would have feared judgment, rejection and I would have hid gifts, like not willing to share the gifts that I have.

Speaker 2:

You're not talking about the gifts that you got at your store. You're talking about the innate gifts that need to come out, yeah.

Speaker 1:

All of us are given gifts, you know, and we have to choose if we want to be fully seen with those gifts. Correct, so collaborative me. Where I would be collaborative with the universe essentially is that I could show up more authentically not perfectly, and show up with a lot of honesty, like radical honesty. I think that is very collaborative because then you will meet people where they also have shown up, maybe in their own honest journey. Right, and also like we have enough people pretending to be perfect and that isn't going to help someone expand.

Speaker 2:

Correct.

Speaker 1:

You know, no.

Speaker 2:

You're looking at me like no no, no, I'm right there with you. I feel like there is a perfection is most certainly a. It's a disease, right? It keeps you from actually moving forward is most certainly a disease, right, it keeps you from actually moving forward. And if you look at someone and you see someone else's perfection, the next thing you do when you look at yourself is you see all your imperfections.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, for sure. So the embodiment challenge for visibility or being seen would be to share something that you once kept hidden, which is kind of popular on social media Now. People are like, oh, you know, instagram versus real life or you know, they'll show like a photo of them before they photoshopped it.

Speaker 2:

I was gonna say. I was gonna say, do a couple of posts with no filters.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. I mean if you just share some type of truth where you have maybe been hiding yourself from being seen, maybe something that you're struggling with, you'll find that you open the door to other people who are also having that. Or if you share something that happened in the past that you've overcome, it helps people see you as an authority on that issue and it can be really connection building. So again, building that connection. But I mean, are you having fun playing this game?

Speaker 2:

I'm having a lot of fun. I have my last one and of course it is going to be about relationships. Everyone has relationship issues, right?

Speaker 1:

Whether it's a romantic relationship or a work relationship.

Speaker 2:

We are just full of relationships I mean I guess you could also extend to relationships that you have with a pet, but you know, it depends on how deep into that pet you're getting right.

Speaker 1:

But your life is dependent on the quality of your relationships.

Speaker 2:

That is correct. That is correct. So you know, the old competitive-based mindset or me would say something like she thinks that she is better than me, right? So right then, and there you're talking about power, struggling, you're talking about fighting to win. Or one dominates the other. And the new collaborative me is going to say something like she is inspiring me to do better than I did before, right? Which is creating a win-win scenario. It's peace versus justice, right? So now you're in a position where you can share your strengths and wins versus vying to see who's gonna be the quarterback.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Right, we versus me.

Speaker 2:

We versus me. That's the way to go. So what I would do for the embodiment challenge is end a fight with a peaceful phrase such as what can we do to find a peaceful solution to this issue?

Speaker 1:

Boom, I love it.

Speaker 2:

Right then. And there you go, from winning and fighting to win to being like okay, how can we arrive at this at the same time? Right, that's a win-win scenario.

Speaker 1:

So the next segment we're going to talk about is the feminine shift in leadership. So there's definitely a rise of cyclical, creative, community-led movements, powerful women stepping forward and leading the change. And not only women, but men who have balanced their masculine and feminine are able to make a stronger impact with connection and it's more fulfilling right. So those that have balanced the masculine and feminine energy which, all again, all males and females have it all. All humans are born with both energies, both sides of us, right, and so when we find that balance, we can be unstoppable. Um, but if we're just talking about women, I I found this great quote in Forbes that said female-led businesses are growing twice as fast as male-led ones.

Speaker 2:

I can tell you why.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, tell me.

Speaker 2:

I can tell you why Because when you compete, you compete to, and when you're competing, you're focusing on one problem, right. When you are collaborating, you're focusing on multiple solutions at the same time, right. So a female-led business that is focused in on solutions is going to get further along faster and gather more strength than someone who is just focusing on their problems.

Speaker 1:

Because women are choosing to create a community. There's a lot of give and take, and what I would say is that feminine leadership isn't really even about gender. It's about intuition, inclusion, interdependence, and it can be, you know, a male that is balanced, and masculine and feminine, using that, that strategy, as the way that they lead, you know, for their leadership abilities.

Speaker 2:

And I mean I've, you've, you've had clients in the past who have been female, who have been stuck in male roles, who are having a hard time making that switch and it and it's. It's simply because the, the workforce is still focused on that mindset.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're still focused on the push through and climb the corporate ladder and you're just constantly pushing a boulder up a hill.

Speaker 2:

And how wonderful that we are now coming to an age where we can reverse that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I feel like the era is collaborative. People say, oh, the future is feminine and we're in like the age of aquarius. But I just want to reiterate that both male and female genders, you know, are any gender essentially, in these times, you know, everyone is necessary. Like, if you look at nature, there's an ecosystem and each person, each, each, you know entity, each microorganism, like everything, plays a specific part, and the same is true as that, you know, in my business.

Speaker 1:

I find that if a woman is balanced and masculine and feminine, she's unstoppable. And same goes for men. And if men are just looking at women and thinking negative about women, and if women are looking negative at men, like you're losing energy. First of all, you're definitely suffering because there's no escaping a man and there's no escaping a woman, and so we have to come together and unify. And so what? I have been in a lot of movement conversations, and so I wanted to say that movements really are born in moments, and currently a lot of the movements that I'm involved in are with women, and it's when women say enough, but they last when women say together.

Speaker 2:

That's so beautiful, and I'm getting the imagery of going from a male-dominated scenario or system to a female-dominated, and in order to do that, you have a full glass of water, and that's male, and you have an empty glass of water, and that's female. And in order to go from one to the next, you actually have to take that energy from the male and dip it in right. So there is going to be a transference of energy from the male to the female, right. So it's not that females are on the rise. It is what we're trying to do is balance it out. And in order to balance it out, we have to re-engage and re-engage the feminine and allow the feminine to heal the masculine, and then we have that powerful balance.

Speaker 1:

Right, and I think, especially in this era, in the US specifically, we have so much polarity, much polarity. So much division, that men and women are also being pit against each other, and not just race, but gender and skin color and all the things are being pit against each other when really our true power comes from unification. Our true power comes from collaboration. True power comes from unification. True power comes from collaboration. But feminine leadership redefines power not as control but as co-creation.

Speaker 1:

Because, women, we are creators. Obviously we give life, but we are naturally creative beings. We came here to create, and being creative means figuring out how to be collaborative.

Speaker 2:

And the benefit of being a co-creator is that that gives you so much change, right. It gives you so much movement. It allows you to move forward without having to drag the old weights of behind, which are all your masculine win, win, win, competitive, competitive, competitive. Because that's done, we don't need that anymore, right, right, so let us allow that to be gone.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I'm on board for that.

Speaker 2:

The truth is, the compete, dominate, outsell paradigm is coming to an end.

Speaker 1:

It's outdated.

Speaker 2:

It's super outdated.

Speaker 1:

And the new model is collaborate, expand, amplify, because, as conscious coaches and leaders, we want to amplify others.

Speaker 2:

And you and I are particularly in a field where there really shouldn't be any competition. We are all trying to do the same thing. There shouldn't be any competition. No Right, we are all trying to do the same thing uplift humanity. So there shouldn't be competition between coaches. But we also see that in other industries.

Speaker 1:

All industries, it's just. It's part of human nature too, because there's you know, part of our brain that you know is trying to survive and we are in. Obviously we've outgrown the saber-toothed tiger.

Speaker 2:

So like we can thrive together. I like what you say in regards to the collaborate, expand and amplify. I mean, power doesn't decrease when it's shared, it multiplies Right. So if you are participating in something that's positive, it doesn't matter if you are the person who's going to catch the winning touchdown or any of that, as long as you are part of the process, you're beautiful, you're in the go.

Speaker 1:

Right, you still get the Super Bowl ring.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Scarcity says protect your throne. Collaboration says build a longer table.

Speaker 2:

Build a longer table, and that is what you've been doing your whole career. You're just building this huge table.

Speaker 1:

And when I was interviewed recently, they asked me a question about like, oh well, what if somebody comes to the issue in this way? It's like I don't care If they want to come to table for any reason any way, we will sit with them and we to table with for any reason any, any way. Like we will sit with them and we will talk with them, because the truth is, if somebody gets inspired, I don't care why they came, I don't care why they came to send in my business, like we're here for a movement, we're here for a mission and everyone's welcome, yeah.

Speaker 2:

As long as the job's done. And one thing I'll say about you is that you know, collaboration is, it's in your biology and it's your blueprint and it's everyone's blueprint.

Speaker 1:

It's everyone's.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's my blueprint, it's your blueprint.

Speaker 1:

Like just with us, empowered Posse, just breathe. That in Collaboration is in your biology and your blueprint.

Speaker 2:

Like you have the ability to collaborate. You don't have to compete.

Speaker 1:

Right, and we are all tribal beings. We all worked in tribes. If we're going to really look at our brain, we thrive when we are in community and when we are in proximity to people who are on the same mission, right? All right are on the same mission right, all right. So next segment I want to get into is five ways to lead from collaboration, not competition.

Speaker 2:

That's it. That's all you need. That's it.

Speaker 1:

Okay. So, number one, you're going to celebrate others publicly. So instead of comparison or whatever judgment, or they're further ahead than me, or whatever the energy is right Like instead of comparison, offer amplification.

Speaker 2:

I love that. Instead of hate, give hugs. So number two join or create sacred circles or masterminds. Why is this? Because proximity breeds elevation. Right, we want to elevate, we want to. That connective process lifts everyone up.

Speaker 1:

And I would just say, to mirror that is that you don't want to be the smartest person in the room. You want the people in your proximity to really challenge you, to make you expand, and so I love that. Create those sacred circles yo.

Speaker 2:

What's number three?

Speaker 1:

Number three is deprogram the scarcity voice. Okay, so here's the scarcity voice. I'm going to tell you what it sounds like. It sounds like if I help her, I'll lose my edge. And what I want you to challenge that voice with is, if I rise with her, we all rise faster.

Speaker 2:

And that's the truth.

Speaker 1:

It's the truth.

Speaker 2:

That is the truth. That's all you got to say. Number four co-create offers or events, right. So we want you to lean into partnerships, right? We want you to be excited about shared energy, and shared energy is expanded reach right. So collaborate, collaborate, collaborate and you'll see your brand just grow and grow and grow.

Speaker 1:

And number five, choose coaches who model collaboration. If their success is built on dominance. Ask yourself is that my path? Because whatever you learn, you will embody, especially with a coach. Yeah, you will repeat, you will mirror that. And so really ask yourself is that your path? Do you want to be part of an old paradigm that no longer serves you? The fulfillment of being on this planet at this time.

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't want to.

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

Let me answer for you. No, the answer is no.

Speaker 1:

The answer is no. The truth is true. Success isn't built in silos. It's co-authored by souls in alignment.

Speaker 2:

Souls in alignment, and that is literally the definition of collaboration. Right, it's being in alignment with another soul.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

So a quick recap right, competition divides and collaboration expands. Let me tell you, you always want to expand, you always want to expand.

Speaker 1:

You're growing or dying.

Speaker 2:

Exactly so. Choose collaboration as your nervous system strategy, wealth building model and leadership philosophy yes, collaborate your way, all the way to the top.

Speaker 1:

It is how I've built all my businesses and how I've built coalitions that have succeeded.

Speaker 2:

I'll go so far as to say that if your business is struggling, it's probably because you are competing with someone that you shouldn't be. You should be working with them.

Speaker 1:

You're sometimes probably competing with yourself because it's you versus you.

Speaker 2:

Yes, that is correct.

Speaker 1:

So here's a journal prompt because you might need to dig a little and figure out what's actually going on, because you might be like, oh no, none of this is me.

Speaker 2:

And if you're not journaling journal Journaling is receipt that you are making progress.

Speaker 1:

Yes, so here's a journal prompt. Where am I still operating from competition or fear of not being enough?

Speaker 2:

I got one.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you got one.

Speaker 2:

I got one who in my life or network could I uplift or co-create with today?

Speaker 1:

I like that. Should I do one more? Yes, why not Okay?

Speaker 2:

Power of three.

Speaker 1:

What would it feel like to embody success that's sourced from synergy, not striving?

Speaker 2:

Sourced from synergy.

Speaker 1:

Yes, baby.

Speaker 2:

You are a songwriter, aren't you?

Speaker 1:

Align it, align it honey, you got to say it so people remember it. Sourced from synergy. Not striving, let's go yo. Okay, well, we hope you enjoyed this episode. We are sending you the highest vibrations.

Speaker 2:

You are held.

Speaker 1:

You are loved. I mean, I could try, but collaborating with you is the funnest part of my week and obviously my best collaboration with you. Obviously, my best collaboration with you is our child, that is correct. So without you I wouldn't have collaboration that I feel is worth more than anything in the world.

Speaker 2:

That was well done.

Speaker 1:

You're welcome.

Speaker 2:

Good job.

Speaker 1:

Okay, now do me I just did you Again.

Speaker 2:

Here's the reason why I like to collaborate with Zuri Star Because she has magic in her bloodstream.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And I like magic.

Speaker 1:

I love magic.

Speaker 2:

I love magic Okay we're good. And then it's my turn Go ahead.

Speaker 1:

Here's why I like to collaborate with Michael Starr yeah, yeah, yeah, Because he makes me laugh and he's a real motherfucker.

Speaker 2:

That's that. That's that. Get your finger off the button. Get your finger off the button. That's that mirror.

Speaker 1:

Good day, sir we're good, we're good, we're good. You can Silencio.

Speaker 2:

Do not hang up on me how dare you.

Speaker 1:

Okay, this is a two-hour podcast, okay. Okay. Let's compete and see who does better.

Speaker 2:

Let's collaborate. The end the show will end in three, two no-transcript.

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