The little brother brings a whole lot of history of his own. Casey Scherer doesn’t really roll in his brothers shadow, more like on a parallel path. Casey spends time with Rich talking about the moves he’s made, his racing history and his plan to live his best life ever. I’ll never forget meeting him in Arizona after a Spring Training game and the fun that ensued.
4:09 – we were hooked!
7:18 –first job involved a sledgehammer
10:12 – spent nights in Mello’s barn working on race Jeeps
11:40 –I ran faster laps than the instructors
13:30 – ran with NASCAR drivers
15:00 – it taught me discipline
19:47 – Shannon taught us how to share
24:07 – the 25 hour long endurance race was fun
25:38 – staring down my own gun from the barrel end
28:05 – I bought a bone stock Can-Am X3
31:20 – it wasn’t a sponsorship, it was a relationship
39:09 – I got hurt. It was all games off. No more racing.
41:48 – how do you continue your life and not dwell on this silly situation?
46:12 – there’s no script
49:15 – Mountain Vibe Festival
52:21 – Team Awesome
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[00:00:01.080] - Big Rich Klein
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[00:00:56.040] - Big Rich Klein
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[00:01:21.810] - Big Rich Klein
Conversations with Big Rich, we have Casey. Scherer, if or you could say Scherererer, Casey is the younger brother of Jason Scherer, King of the Hammers champion.
[00:01:35.250] - Big Rich Klein
But Casey has his own championships that we can talk about and his life and some of the things that led him out of the Bay Area, up into the Sierra Nevada foothills and then to St George, Utah. So let's let's say hello. And, you know, Casey, thank you for coming on and being a guest.
[00:01:56.340] - Casey Scherer
Hey, Big Rich, thanks for having me, man. I love listening to your podcasts, and I'm happy to be able to join you and be involved in one myself.
[00:02:06.720] - Big Rich Klein
That's awesome. So let's just jump right in with both feet. Sure. If anybody listen to Jason's, they're going to have this might be kind of a repeat, but the hometown that you were born and raised in is.
[00:02:22.200] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, so I was born and raised in Danville, California, where my parents built and we lived in our my parents' dream house. So it was really fun to grow up with my brother and have all the the fun things that we got to do in the shop there growing up.
[00:02:41.640] - Big Rich Klein
So let's talk about that house. I don't think we got into that with with Jason, the shop that you just mentioned. Was it like just a garage or was it a shop shop?
[00:02:54.390] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, no, it was it was a garage that my parents park their cars in and my brother bought a CJ5, and we he played with it a little bit. He went to college up in Chico and the jeep actually got stolen. And I think you guys covered that his segment. Yes. And and then he came home to help my dad run the business a little bit, family business. And they decided to do a full frame of restoration on it.
[00:03:29.100] - Casey Scherer
And, you know, I was I loved it. I was the kid sweeping the shop floor and it wasn't anything special. It was just a two car garage that that my dad kind of relinquished his parking spots and and let Jason, you know, completely do a frame off on a CJ5, which was back then to us just getting into it. It was a big deal, rebuilding the motor and and cleaning up the frame rails and trussing everything.
[00:03:57.030] - Casey Scherer
It was a lot of fun stuff, a lot of good memories.
[00:04:00.060] - Big Rich Klein
That's awesome. That's a that's a great way to get to get involved or to build that passion of, you know.
[00:04:09.270] - Casey Scherer
Oh, we were hooked. Yeah, we were hooked. There's no doubt. I mean, I've got I can look back at pictures and, you know, there's camping gear all over the driveway coming back from the Rubicon. And my dad come home from work and there's know coolers and sleeping bags and stuff everywhere. It was just we lived it. It was as soon as we got done with school, it was back to working on Off-Road stuff.
[00:04:31.410] - Big Rich Klein
Let's let's talk about those early years school.
[00:04:35.850] - Casey Scherer
[00:04:36.840] - Big Rich Klein
Were you scholastic athletic or tried to find your own thing?
[00:04:43.290] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, I tried to find my own thing. Jason was really scholastic and athletic. I kind of bounced around. I had had some learning disabilities and stuff like that. I bounced around to a bunch of different schools all the way. Even in high school, I got kicked out of high school for having long hair. I went to an all boys Catholic high school and they just didn't approve of of Casey's ways signed up. I registered myself with the public school and and it was great.
[00:05:14.010] - Casey Scherer
I had friends on both campuses. So definitely Casey knew how to have some fun back then.
[00:05:21.440] - Big Rich Klein
Yeah, I know the long hair story. I grew up in this in my youth was truly in the sixties and seventies was high school. And yeah, long hair was was like a norm.
[00:05:38.520] - Casey Scherer
Yeah. It was kind of taboo, you know, at an all boys Catholic high school, I wore, you know, I was really into the Grateful Dead, wore tie dyed t shirts every day. And I went to I went to a bunch of concerts, Grateful Dead concerts, when I was just the young and Jason would let me tag along. And he was always so cool that way, his older brother to let me tag along, you know, a lot of a lot of siblings get away.
[00:06:03.420] - Casey Scherer
And we had a lot of the same friends and and same interests. So, yeah, that was an interesting part of my life, my youth.
[00:06:12.480] - Big Rich Klein
It's awesome. It's interesting that two brothers can be so different. You know, I know that that my kids, Megan and Rich, are extremely different. And so no matter how you raise them or where you grow up or what the the influences are, there's still people still have their own their own destiny to make for sure.
[00:06:38.280] - Casey Scherer
We get my brother and I get confused constantly. We have, like I said, a lot of the same attributes. And, you know, we have a very similar voice and and people confuse us quite often. But we were were quick to jump on them and say, not Jason's my older brother. Casey's my little brother. Vice versa, it's pretty funny, we kind of it feels us it's fun.
[00:07:00.540] - Big Rich Klein
So let's talk about what you've actually been talking about it. But besides school, early family life, you're your dad started Pelican Communications and in that and then Jason helped. And then you're involved with it now, too, aren't you?
[00:07:18.840] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, I'm actually a I'm a Western regional sales manager and an owner of the business. So, yeah, kind of from the beginning, I think one of my very first jobs was my grandfather giving me a sledgehammer and he told me to break up. He owned a company called Oakland Cigarette Service. And Jason and I would tag along with my dad who worked for my grandpa, and we'd go to the warehouse and I used that sledgehammer and I would break up vending machine cigarette vending machines and get them to fill the dumpsters with them because they were converting their routes from cigarette machines to amusement devices, which are like pool tables and jukeboxes.
[00:08:07.290] - Casey Scherer
And it just kind of spiraled from that. My dad many years later went on his own, started his own business and was started with pay telephones. Yeah.
[00:08:19.890] - Big Rich Klein
And there's a bit of history.
[00:08:23.280] - Casey Scherer
Are there few and far between to see them. But when you do, they're they're out there still, believe it or not, you have one to one another. One of my first jobs is counting quarters that my dad had a route and he'd go collect the quarters out of them and I'd put them, count all the coins and take them down to the bank. And and over the years, he kept me employed. I helped my brother install, I think, somewhere around three thousand payphones from pouring cement pads and hammers, hammer, drill on them, lagan them into the ground, running phone lines it and it was all Jason that taught me all these things.
[00:09:05.130] - Casey Scherer
So it was it was really fun at a young age. I had a great work ethic. I enjoyed it because I got to work with my brother and my dad. It was it was just fun. And I still have that same same attitude to this day that I get to work with my family. You know, there's ups and downs on that. But in the big picture, it's well worth it. We all really enjoy what we do.
[00:09:28.990] - Big Rich Klein
That's great to hear. So you're wheeling was started with your brother? Yep. With that CJ five, correct?
[00:09:38.670] - Casey Scherer
Yeah. So I think maybe we went a little bit too far. So let's back up for a sec, OK? The way the way I got into Wheeling was again I was tagging along with my brother, going with one of his family friends, and then we had a gate to our driveway and it broke. One day some of the metal broke and my parents hired this handyman to come in and fix the gate. I think this is like early nineties.
[00:10:12.810] - Casey Scherer
And it was Jeff Mello like, oh, Jeff, it was the Jeff Mello. And he's a hero of mine because of it. He was actually using a bunch of batteries and he was arc welding the gate back together and fixing some of the ornaments, ornaments style gate stuff. And he saw my brother's jeep that he was rebuilding in the garage and it clicked. It was just, you know, from then on out, it was spend the nights over at Jeff's barn working on his race jeeps and rock crawlers.
[00:10:46.380] - Casey Scherer
And he was doing arenacross. And I was just I was enthralled by it. I'd ride my bike over there every day to learn something. He was cool about it. You know, he was like, here, pick up a grinder, use the welder. Here's here's how you sharpen a drill bit? He wasn't shy about it. And it it taught us a lot back then. Yeah. Really fun to to be able to meet Jeff.
[00:11:08.940] - Casey Scherer
And then again, it was going out on the trail on Rubicon and Fordyce and, you know, meeting, meeting people that were had like interests. And, you know, still to this day, like guys that we met out on the trail, like Brian Faris, still work in my brother's shop and set up differentials. I mean, it's it's been a lifelong friendship.
[00:11:30.970] - Big Rich Klein
That's awesome. So, yeah, you also got into racing go carts. When did that happen?
[00:11:40.200] - Casey Scherer
That happened a little bit later. I, I went to a trade school out in Arizona called UTI, which was a heavy diesel and industrial school. And I went to Bob. Bondurant's school of driving out there in Phoenix and got into a Shifter car and it was just a school and I went out and I ran faster lap times than the instructors did, and they were like, you've got to get into this sport. So I graduated school and I came back home, started working for my dad again.
[00:12:20.920] - Casey Scherer
And it's funny, I'm actually looking at a picture in my in my office right now, my dad giving me my very first go cart. And yeah, I just got into it big time. I started traveling all over the country, racing with a couple of buddies and got picked up by some big sponsors, by some manufacturers. And then the next thing I know, I had factory sponsorships and I was traveling all over the world, going to Guatemala race down in San Salvador and Nicaragua.
[00:12:53.240] - Casey Scherer
I kept going back to Guatemala, made a bunch of friends over there, and they kept inviting me back to race in their series and kind of help them bring the bring that type of level of racing to Guatemala, where now go kart racing is just absolutely massive over there. And I like to think that I had a part in making it as big as it is today over there.
[00:13:16.720] - Big Rich Klein
That's cool. I knew and raced and I knew that you had factory sponsorship and I knew that you'd gone out of the country to race to. Didn't you also race against some big name guys that ended up being NASCAR drivers?
[00:13:30.430] - Casey Scherer
Oh, yeah. Me and all those guys. I mean, the Scott speeds. AJ Allmendinger was one of my teammates. My buddy Andrew Alfonzo went on to race Porsche, Lehman style stuff. Billy Johnson, who was another one of my teammates. It's just crazy. I could go on and on about all the names, the guys that were involved that are now in the limelight of professional racing. I see. You know, the McDowell family are just out there just killing it.
[00:14:01.240] - Casey Scherer
NASCAR right now and jostles all those guys that I raced go carts with. They they they've done very well for themselves. So if if there's any advice to kids out there listening to this podcast, get yourself into a go cart and dig in, because you can if you put your head down to it, anything is possible. You can work your way all the way up to the top, all the way all the way into Formula One. Max Verstappen is one of the top Formula One drivers right now.
[00:14:32.470] - Casey Scherer
And he I used to see him at the go kart track all the time. It was he was just a little kid. So you just put your put your face down and and drive, practice, drive, learn the go kart set up, learn how the thing works and. Yeah, good luck.
[00:14:49.700] - Big Rich Klein
I understand that's a great way to get into racing. I guess a lot of guys. They they segway into more open wheel racing.
[00:15:00.640] - Casey Scherer
I think it taught me a lot Rich. It taught me it taught me disciplines. It taught me how to respect other racers and how to drive. It taught me line theory and braking thresholds and, you know, how to set up a chassis and how to not smoke my tires in the first couple laps. And I mean, there are so many little things that later in my life racing off road, I think it was a huge benefit for me.
[00:15:29.590] - Casey Scherer
And it's one of the reasons why I think that when I jumped into racing UTV's with Ultra4 that I came right out of the box and, you know, won the championships and got Rookie of the Year because it was my skill set played or played right into it. Right. Right. It was. And I had I had Coach Jason there to teach me along the way as some of the differences and how to set up an off road car versus a road road car, which there is big differences, but there's also a lot of similarities, right?
[00:16:04.870] - Big Rich Klein
Well, yeah. And I would imagine one of the things that I've heard is that especially Shifter Carts is the feel you get to, you know, because you're so there's there's very little space between you and the pavement that you drive feels different.
You have to drive. I mean, you you are you touch the brakes and if your elbows aren't locked in your heads, hit the steering wheel. There's you drive by the seat of your pants and you learn you learn how a car reacts in bad situations.
[00:16:40.330] – Casey Scherer
You get in the marbles a little bit and you know that you're going to have understeer and and you go way too hard into the brakes. You know, that didn't seem to push like a boat. Just keep going straight. You've got to learn that finesse. And it took me a little bit in off road, you know, I'd come into a corner racing a NorCal Rock race or something, and I'd try and slow the car down and it would just keep going straight because you're in dirt.
[00:17:06.430] – Casey Scherer
There's no grip. So, you know, it was there was a lot of stuff that took me a long time to figure out. Luckily, I lived near Prairie City and then when I moved up to Auburn, when I moved out of the out of the Bay Area, out of Danville. And so I was there all the time. I mean, I think the gate guy knew me by my first name.
[00:17:31.390] - Big Rich Klein
Yeah, that's a it's a good track out there, too. I had I had something to do with that when we when I owned Vorra. Oh, nice. Me and a guy named Steve Sullivan, and actually we even had Curt Leduc come up one time and run the racecourse that we used legend. Oh yeah. And we were it's funny, we were in a in his his wife's Grand Cherokee, and he drove up from San Jose because he was there for four wheel parts, truck fest or whatever they called it.
[00:18:04.810] - Big Rich Klein
He I asked him to come out and take out take a look at the track. And then he brought his sons up and we raced with us and stuff for a while, but he we did the track in the Grand Cherokee with the three of us, and I thought we would just drive around the track. No, he he was driving. I mean, we were off the jumps we found about sliding through the corners. And I'm like, OK, I guess I should trust this guy because he knows what the hell he's doing.
[00:18:32.620] - Big Rich Klein
So, you know, I it was fun.
[00:18:35.110] - Casey Scherer
I really like Curt Leduc, I've had the pleasure of of hanging out with him and and meeting him. When my brother started racing with Ford, you know, Jason made friends with Curt on Trail of Missions through BF Goodrich. And they they became really good friends. And I met Curt for the first time and I introduced myself. And the first thing he said to me was, oh, I know who you are. I follow you on social media. My brother looked over at me like, OK, you know, you get a legend like that guy saying something like that to me that it really stuck.
[00:19:13.570] - Casey Scherer
Put a big smile on my face. Yep.
[00:19:15.340] - Big Rich Klein
That's that's what offroad racing does. I mean, you get to meet, you know, whether it's whether you're racing UTVs or or. Class 11, Volkswagen bugs or Class Nine cars or whatever. Sure, you know, if you put yourself out there to meet the people that are around. Everybody's really. For the most part, personal, personable, yeah, I think that's. And again, I think my brother touched on it a little bit in his segment.
[00:19:47.430] – Casey Scherer
But honestly, Rich, I think that's all because of Shannon. And I think he taught us that. He taught us to. And he has this famous line. He'll share absolutely everything with you, but he's still going to beat you with his junk. And it is been lost over the years with so many people and how big the sport has gotten. But I think the founders of it still have that humble attitude where it's why the sport's grown so much, in my opinion, is everybody shares these cool new technology, the Joe Thompson's that are building UFO cars, the Campbells, the cross building, his new car.
[00:20:27.750] – Casey Scherer
It was it's not like Crofts had all this knowledge. He went in there and and got it from a bunch of the veterans. And and I see it it took me a little bit to gain that in the UTV stuff because my background in go kart racing, it was kind of like how Robby Gordon is. You know, there is a cover over your car that nobody shared any secrets. Right. And it's like the mind game where in Ultra4 and even in rock crawling, you know, growing up around that, it wasn't that way.
[00:21:02.580] – Casey Scherer
Everybody was sharing their ideas. I see Jesse building all these Portal stuff and he shares his ideas with everybody. It's really cool how it's how it's all and again, to circle back on it. I really think it came from Shannon teaching all of us that that's the way to do it. And I still am that way. I get phone calls weekly from people, hey, how do I do this or how does this work? And I love sharing that kind of information.
[00:21:32.370] - Big Rich Klein
That's that's great. That's that's what helps grow the sport for sure. Because if you got to go out there and and figure it all out on your own, it's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. It's really time consuming. And there's those days where you're really down, you know, like dirt circle track, I, I can see how people get into it. If you have early success because you've figured it out somehow or you've got somebody on your team that has figured it out, it's great.
[00:22:04.140] - Big Rich Klein
But you see guys out there just, you know, struggling and struggling for years. And it's like, you know, dudes, you know, you don't you don't know how to set up your car. You don't know, you know, all the things. Yeah, I. I dabbled in it for a couple of seasons. I raced the NASCAR Red Line series, which was a late model series, raced the bull rings like Madara and. Stockton99 Speedway, and I loved it, I thought it was a ton of fun, but again, just like you said it was, if you didn't have the setup, you were getting dumped and those guys didn't care, they would dump you.
[00:22:46.400] - Big Rich Klein
The same guy would dump you every single weekend to teach you a lesson. And it got expensive fast because because it was and I got to the point where I was like, man, the good ol boys won't let me buy. You know, you could you have to beat them fair and square. And then when you started beating them, they they they Dale Earnhardt, you know, if you couldn't beat them, they beat you. So they were beaten on your bumper and it just wasn't it wasn't a fit for me.
[00:23:12.800] - Big Rich Klein
I wasn't I didn't have that grit. I was too nice of a guy to to be able to compete in it. I was it was fun, but it wasn't wasn't what I was striving for in my racing career.
[00:23:25.580] - Big Rich Klein
Right. And if you're hot headed, it's even worse because when somebody dumps you, you know, the next thing you want to do is go in the pits. And if you're if you're not a big guy, like most of the NASCAR guys, you know, you've got there is your lead tire change guy is actually a bodyguard.
[00:23:44.030] - Casey Scherer
Yeah. I mean, there is I, I think there is a fight every weekend. I'm trying to remember when there wasn't one and I can't. So that's just kind of the mentality and that's that's the sport. Nothing wrong with it. Those guys, I'm sure they're they're still doing it to this day. And, you know, it's it was a good time in my life. I did I did some really fun races, too. I did.
[00:24:07.520] - Casey Scherer
I did a twenty five hour long endurance race at the Thunder. Yeah. And Thunder Hill. I did it. I did it four years in a row. Was really fun in a late model stock car. So here you are, three o'clock in the morning doing one hundred and eighty miles an hour down the straightaway and a prototype three car comes passing you two hundred and ten miles an hour. It was awesome, you know, and and, you know, you come down the straightaways and the brakes are glowing and you can see the cars in front of you.
[00:24:39.650] - Casey Scherer
It was a ton of fun. I, I loved that race and maybe someday I'll be able to be back involved in that because it is such a fun, fun event.
[00:24:50.440] - Big Rich Klein
Let's talk about your UTV racing and how that how that evolved. I mean, where did you just wake up some morning? OK, I'm going to go race one of these glorified golf carts or what?
[00:25:04.870] - Casey Scherer
No. Well. Let's see, so I lived in I lived in Danville, in the Bay Area, and I was doing the normal routes, working for my family business, and I came home from work one day for lunch. I lived about two miles away from our corporate offices and. My house is kind of a revolving door. We had a big swimming pool in the backyard, my girlfriend at the time, who's now my wife, her sister was Marcy.
[00:25:38.320] - Casey Scherer
Her sister was always in and out of town. She lived out here in St. George. And I pulled into the driveway and there was a little four door Nissan or Prius type car, smaller, smaller hatchback kind of thing. And I just kind of thought to myself, oh, someone's someone's here from out of town or someone's swimming in the swimming pool. Didn't even think twice about it. And I started to walk up to my front door. And there is a guy standing there pointing a gun at me in my own house.
[00:26:17.740] - Casey Scherer
And he said, get the eff out of here. And I took off running behind my truck and I jumped to 12, 12 foot tall fence. Can't even believe it to this day that I jumped over that fence. And, yeah, my house completely got robbed. I'm so lucky to be alive. That guy could have shot me right there. I mean, without without hesitation, he could have shot me. And it turned out it was one of my guns.
[00:26:46.000] - Casey Scherer
They had broken into my safe. They had stolen all my wife's purses and jewelry, anything that had any value. They just cleaned house. And that kind of sadness is scary. Is that was that opened a lot of opportunities. I ended up selling the house. I moved up to Auburn, California. Up in the foothills, kind of try to lead a little bit quieter lifestyle, get out of the big city, settle down, ended up getting married and my neighbor was Phil Blurton who is three or four times best in the Desert Champion, UTV World Championships.
[00:27:34.720] - Casey Scherer
He's won. I think he's won everything, in my opinion. I think he's got some score races he needs to win. The King of the Hammers might be right on the cusp, but total bad ass. Right. And he said, hey, you should get into this UTV racing. I've been racing shortcourse in the Polaris. And there's this new car coming out by Can-Am called a maverick. And this was in twenty seventeen. And I said, let's do it.
[00:28:05.170] - Casey Scherer
So I went down to the local dealership and I bought a bone stock Can Am X3 and took it to his shop. I think it had two miles on it and started sawzall on it. I mean we cut it up and built the race car that I actually still have today. And he built a best in the desert style car for Racing Desert. And I built the King of the Hammers style car that had awesome approach and departure angles. And I used every skill set that I had to make that thing.
[00:28:44.530] - Casey Scherer
Just a rock crawler, put a huge winch on the front of it, started working with different manufacturers. And I went out and raced King of the Hammers for my very first time in twenty seventeen and didn't finish, but had just an epic race passed. A bunch of guys had a ton of fun and the rock trails and you know, my brother gets on the radio to let me know, hey, you know, you're nowhere in contention for a win or anything like that.
[00:29:15.520] - Casey Scherer
Just have some fun. And we ended up breaking the car, but we never we never gave up. We raced all the way to resolution where they kind of looked at me and said, OK, your day is done. They're forty four hundred cars are now qualifying. You're out. But it was it was awesome. And I, i that first race, I'll never forget it. It was definitely a fun one.
[00:29:40.730] - Big Rich Klein
So let's let's continue talking about the ultra for racing and, yeah, where that where that Can-Am lead you.
[00:29:50.290] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, so then one day I got I got this idea to call Can-Am and let them know about some of my successes, I won a race out in Texas, the Vanquero 212, which was in Sierra Blanca. And I don't know if any of the listeners have heard stories about that race, but it was a legendary race. We raced right on the Rio Grande. Sheriff Arvin, who's the famous sheriff for arresting Willie Nelson and and Snoop Dogg and a bunch of other people for trying to bring marijuana over into Texas.
[00:30:31.150] - Casey Scherer
He was the local sheriff that put the race on with Dave Cole. And, yeah, that was my first win. And so I took that and I went to Bombadier, Can-Am and BRP and ended up getting a factory sponsorship from them. And they helped me out for the whole season, from parts, helped me with entry fees, all that kind of stuff. So I was just absolutely blown away that I got a factory sponsorship for a UTV company, that I used my skill sets from racing go karts and knowing how these factories work, it was it was a relationship, a partnership.
[00:31:20.170] - Casey Scherer
It wasn't a sponsorship. I wanted to help promote their product and look at where they are now. They're super involved in ultra4 racing. I think they're they're the title sponsor for a lot of different events that they put on. And and, yeah, we just kept that that that speed, that that steam, that's like I don't really know how to explain it, Rich. It was just a drive. I wanted to be involved. I got done with work every day and that race car, got torn down so that I could go to the next race and went to stampede the MetalCloak Stampede in twenty seventeen.
[00:31:59.740] - Casey Scherer
And I had a pretty rough day. I got dumped really hard in our heat race. The car just got destroyed and my brother, Tom Wayes, and I think even Loren came over to help out. Everybody was thrashing on my UTV to get me into the main event and I went I had to start from the back because I got crashed out and I passed everybody. I was just I was I saw red. I had that red mist. I live on a mission.
[00:32:35.680] - Casey Scherer
And I drove from the back, won the race. And I came in and my brother and Dave were at the start finish line. We come in that up the track there and they said, you won. And I hadn't even been paying attention because all I was doing was driving. I didn't care what place I was and I was just driving as hard as I could. And they said, you won. And it was super fun. I got to get up on the podium, spray champagne for my very first time.
[00:33:07.390] - Casey Scherer
Spraying champagne is ultra4 a race. And yeah, it was awesome. Tons of fun. And then we took that speed and we went out to the Fallon and ran the Fallon 250, the PCI Fallon 250. And again I put together a really good program. Jason came out and supported me out at that race and my whole team and and we ended up pulling off a second. And that second place secured us the championship for the West, the national championship.
[00:33:45.280] - Casey Scherer
And then I got to the awards banquet and I had gotten the ultra4 Rookie of the year, which was to me, I think it was bigger than. Then the championship it was, I got the rookie of the year of all ultra four racers. It was like, you know, still to this day, this is mind boggling.
[00:34:05.800] - Big Rich Klein
Well, yeah, when you jump into upper levels of any racing organization and you win a championship, no matter what kind of vehicle you're driving, that's hard to duplicate as a as a as a newbie.
[00:34:19.360] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, it really was. And I wouldn't have been able to do it without the partners that I had. They really stepped up. I mean, all of them. It was it was really fun. It was a fun, fun season. And that sparked a little more interest. I got a random phone call one night from a part manufacturer named Travis Solander. And Travis, as first question is to me is I'd love to work with you what breaks on these cars?
[00:34:53.470] - Casey Scherer
And he was a part manufacturer. And so we started developing parts from radius rods to knuckles and tie rods. And the next thing I know, I'm traveling out to Logan, Utah, to go see his facility. And and he introduced me to every single one of his employees. And we just started this relationship where I was helping him as a racer and he was manufacturing these parts and he built a very successful business. And the next thing I know, him and a couple of his employees and everybody, they're now racing full speed.
[00:35:33.100] - Casey Scherer
I mean, they are committed. They've got trailers and race cars and full teams, and they're all racing three or four different series. So it's kind of neat that one phone call could turn into getting a whole crew of guys out racing and in our sport.
[00:35:49.960] - Big Rich Klein
Well, let's let's dive into that angle. You mentioned not sponsors, but partners. I've always been one to I I'd rather build a relationship. We call it contact before commerce. And and the whole idea is to build. A friendship with somebody or some kind of a, you know, personal relationship before they become a partner, before asking them for help with your racing or in my case, the racing series, it's you know, I've I go to to SEMA and it's to talk to.
[00:36:35.410] - Big Rich Klein
My current partners, and to see the people that I'm interested in working with in the future, not to walk in and hand them a proposal and go, Hey, my name is so-and-so and this is what I do. And here's a proposal. I want you to be a partner. I've never done what I did that at the very beginning. And I and I never was successful. So we started, you know, just walking in and saying, hey, you know, I'm Rich Klein.
[00:37:04.030] - Big Rich Klein
I'm with CalRocs or WE Rock or VORRA or Dirt Riot. Whatever it happens to be that I'm interested in getting them involved with yet. And it's and then I go back the next year, you know, I get their their email address so I can send them updates on what we do, post race emails and that kind of thing so that they can see that we're legit instead of just some guy, random person walking up with a proposal. So, yeah, that's one of the things that I try to to instill in racer's.
[00:37:34.390] - Big Rich Klein
And you brought that over, I guess, from from having been successful with the go carts
[00:37:42.760] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, it was a little bit of that. I think I learned my majority of it honestly from the off road stuff. Charlene Bower had a lot to do with it, took her class way back when. I mean, I can still hear Charlene in my head saying, put your window net inside your car, not outside your car, so that when people are taking pictures that your window net isn't covering up all of your sponsors, take your take your sunglasses off.
[00:38:11.470] - Casey Scherer
You know, those little types of things, they actually do go a long way and into exactly to your point, Rich is, you know, one of one of my biggest sponsors over the year is Cody Waggoner from LaserNut. And I straight up asked them one day I'm like, why are you sponsoring me? Like, what? What's the deal like? You know, is it for exposure or what? And his response came back is no, man, I think you're cool.
[00:38:38.020] - Casey Scherer
Like you're one of our friends, like I want to help support you. And that meant more to me than any corporation or big sponsor because it was a friend and that happened with PRP. That happened with Baja Designs that happened with Bigfoot, winch ropes it was all of those like really cool relationships where it wasn't just racing. Also it was, hey, let's go grab beers or hey, you want to come do Easter Jeep Safari or whatever it may be.
[00:39:09.010] - Casey Scherer
It just turned into these friendships that I still have today. Like, I don't know how to explain it. And I can kind of segway some of that into what I'm doing today with Ultra4 and in case you missed this, because I'm maybe I'm maybe I'm just I'm a little bit ahead, but go ahead. I was I was involved in a really bad accident. I, I wrecked my UTV in twenty nineteen at the ultra4 nationals up in Reno and that that day was a light switch.
[00:39:49.870] - Casey Scherer
I lost my factory sponsorship. I got hurt, I, I lost. It was literally a light switch. It was all games off. No more racing. Doctor's orders. I came over a jump and I cooked it way, way too hot. And I had some other mechanical issues going on with the car. And when I went off the jump at about seventy miles an hour, the front bumper hit the dirt first and I went for a ride eight times.
[00:40:23.920] - Casey Scherer
The car went over every time the rear tires hit the ground and I was full throttle and it went and came to rest. And when I came to rest, it came to rest really violently and broke my back, had a burst fracture of the vertebrae, instantly went to the hospital, went into surgery, had a cage, put in fuzed a bunch of vertebrae. That was it. There is no more no more drive for me now. It was all about my rehabilitation and spending time with my family because that was the most important thing in my life.
[00:41:02.070] - Casey Scherer
[00:41:03.700] - Big Rich Klein
When you say your face, that kind of trauma.
[00:41:07.660] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, it was there are some dark moments there. I when I was in the hospital, I was in really bad. I couldn't pull myself together. I, I was just in such a dark place. And my brother's co-driver, Jason Berger, and his brother in law, Jesse, came to visit me at the hospital with Tom Wayes. But they're really close family, friends. And they said, Casey, you know, let's try and put this negative, bad, horrible thing that happened to you and let's turn it into a positive.
[00:41:48.190] - Casey Scherer
And how do you continue your life and not dwell on this silly situation that happens? And it taught me a lot. It was I get to spend more time with my family. I get to travel, I don't have to spend so much money on race car parts. It just the list kept growing and all these positive things that I was interested in. And it sparked a whole new interest in my life. It wasn't just race, race, race, race, race all the time.
[00:42:21.310] - Casey Scherer
And I didn't realize that I had turned into that. My wife later told me, you know, that's all you did. You got done with work and went straight to the shop. I didn't even get a, you know. How was your day, honey? Sometimes it's definitely been a blessing. And it kind of got it opened my eyes to the world that's out there and the awesome life that I can live.
[00:42:43.570] - Big Rich Klein
Right. I think that's one of the things that that others can learn without having to go through the traumatic accident that you did was that, you know, racing or any pursuit of that passion that that fuels you. You can't forget about your base and the base. I mean by family, you know, whatever it is that that got you, you know, to where you're you're at. And I think a lot of people lose that, lose sight of that.
[00:43:19.410] - Casey Scherer
Definitely, I think I think a lot of racers have the same attributes, we have that addictive personality and it's all we're all we're all we're all very competitive people. I mean, that's why we're we're out there racing in the first place. And to step back from it once in a while is actually really healthy. I think I think, you know, you don't have to compete in every single race. You can go on a family vacation and regroup and and have some better, cleaner ideas in your head on how you can better your race car or better perform in an event, you know, be more comfortable in the pits, whatever it may be.
[00:43:59.760] - Casey Scherer
Sometimes taking a step back from it is a window of opportunity.
[00:44:04.290] - Big Rich Klein
Very true. So. The what do you what do you focusing on since you said that that segway into into life after the racing?
[00:44:16.250] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, so life after the racing, I, I got a phone call from Dave. Dave, I've Dave and I have always had a really funny relationship. A lot of us can say that. Yeah. A lot. Know definitely. I mean, being Jason's little brother, he's always kind of messed with me like, oh hey, there's Jason's little brother. And, you know, it always puts a smile on my face. So quick little story.
[00:44:45.070] - Casey Scherer
One day Dave was looking for my brother and my brother when I was in his motor home. And I think Jason was in trouble for something. I don't remember what it was. But Dave said, get in my golf cart. Take me to where your brother is. I need to see him right away. So, you know, I roll up to Jason's motor home and and I jump out of the golf cart real quick and I run up to the door and open the door as fast as I can.
[00:45:10.600] - Casey Scherer
And Jason's like, what? I'm like, the cops are here, the cops are here. And it's just Dave Cole. And and we always have had that silly, funny relationship. A lot of people don't understand how I can mess around with Dave the way I do and get and get away with it. And it's strictly because we were friends first before before I was a racer. And it just that relationship is carried on. So Dave called me after my after my accident and JT and checked in on me.
[00:45:43.900] - Casey Scherer
And then about two months later, Dave called me and said, Casey, I've been thinking about this and I can't lose you at our events. I need you to come to our events. You are your personality is huge. You know, literally, it's not just the racers, you know, the mechanics, you know, the tire changer, the guys out in remote pits. He's like, I think you might know more people at this event than anybody does.
[00:46:12.700] - Casey Scherer
And so he wanted me to go do segments where I, I get to go introduce myself to race car drivers and get interviews just off the script, you know, candid, fun stuff, you know, walk up to Bryce Menzies after qualifying in this T one truck and, you know, have a conversation with them instead of it being your typical ESPN interview. Right. Right. Just just fun. Make it fun. I mean, I think that's why why great announcers, guys like Cameron Steele, John Crowley, those guys are so awesome at what they do is because they're just themselves.
[00:46:58.210] - Casey Scherer
There's no script. They just there's no there's no B.S. It's just let's go have fun. Let's talk about what's important at the moment. And people really, really seem to enjoy it. And so Dave and Hammer King Productions hired me to come do the segments that they have on their pay per view channel and on their YouTube channel now. So you can go check them out. It's pretty, pretty funny stuff, doing interviews with Gomez brothers and and talking to Terry Madden and stuff like that.
[00:47:32.380] - Casey Scherer
It's just it's awesome. So I've been going to a bunch of the races and doing interviews with people. Went down to Baja a few weeks ago for the El Rey. Got to do a bunch of funny segments and yes, just turns into me staying in the in the limelight and and enjoying the sport. You know, I don't have to go chase sponsors or anything like that anymore because it's it's it's just for fun. I really enjoy it. Cool.
[00:48:02.030] - Casey Scherer
Yeah. I mean, I got to go. I got to I got to meet some legends too. I did interviews with Chris wisemen and stuff like that, talking about technology and going over to the Fox booth and talking to my kin and learning about different technologies in the sport and stuff works kind of mist. People aren't really talking about it unless you pay attention to that specific product. So going and talking to the guys like Bill Burton and seeing what they're doing with their race cars, it's really fun, Rich.
[00:48:32.710] - Casey Scherer
It's it's and I like the technology part of it. And yeah, I just kind of leave it at that. Excellent.
[00:48:41.290] - Big Rich Klein
So let's one of the things I wanted to talk to you about, because it's something that Shelley and I've been wanting to do, but the timing hasn't been right because we've been rock crawling for twenty one years. Yeah. It's the mountain vibe. Yeah, so, yeah, you're I don't know how if you're just a fan or if you're part of that, but, you know, the only time I ever see any advertising for it, it's it's from you.
[00:49:11.370] - Big Rich Klein
So, yeah. Talk about that concert and what got you involved.
[00:49:15.420] - Casey Scherer
Yeah. So 11 years ago, my best friend, Alan TrackMan, I call him Brother Al because he doesn't just like a brother and he treats me like a brother. He we are all sitting by a campfire one night and he had this dream to put on a three day concert where we go camping and have a multitude of bands. I'm going here on the Twenty Fifth Mountain Vibe Music Festival, number 11. And there is I think there's something like twenty two or twenty three bands playing throughout the three days.
[00:49:55.320] - Casey Scherer
It's awesome. It's you camping there next to a river. There's a huge stage and then at night around 11 o'clock at night on Friday and Saturday night, they have awesome headliners and he has food vendors and you know, the bands are awesome. There's there's everything from bluegrass. You get, you know, a solo guy up on stage just playing an acoustic guitar. You get a deejay that comes out Scratch's records and then you get a full punk band and it's every type of music and isn't just like going to a Dave Matthews Band concert or a festival for four days.
[00:50:37.020] - Casey Scherer
It's just a constant flow of different music. And Allen and a bunch of us kind of started it all. And Al's always just had me be involved in it, kind of be a VIP and and help with bands and help with parking. And, hey, can you load up your truck and take a load of trash out to the dumpster? I've always just been involved in it and it's an awesome event. Last year it didn't happen for obvious reasons.
[00:51:09.990] - Casey Scherer
California covid. Yep, yep. But this year it's going to be bigger than ever. You know, I talked to them the other day, sold more tickets than he ever has. You can you can check out their website. It's mountainvibemusic.Com. And you can actually it's pretty cool because on the website you can click on any of the bands that are listed that are going to be performing and hear their music. So if it's something that tickles your brain a little bit, you can come out and enjoy it and it's kid friendly.
[00:51:44.700] - Casey Scherer
There's tons of families out there. I'm going I'm going solo this year. We got got rid of the motorhome and I'm just going to stay in the pop up tent, but I'm really looking forward to it. I, I can't even tell you how much fun it is. It is the bonfire, the the drum circles. The people are awesome, the food vendors. It's just one thing after the next hanging out in the river with all your buddies having beers, jello shots.
[00:52:11.280] - Casey Scherer
I mean who goodtimes.
[00:52:14.670] - Big Rich Klein
So Allen is one of. The team awesome members, is that correct?
[00:52:21.080] - Casey Scherer
He is, yep, and he was one of the founding fathers of Team Awesome team. Awesome was a again it was a group of friends and we we were awesome people. We would stop what we were doing to help somebody else out at the races. And that's how team that's how Team Awesome kind of became. It wasn't it wasn't pit support or anything like that. It was just a bunch of awesome people that would go around. And, you know, if someone was struggling trying to get a tire off, they would stop what they were doing and go over and help them.
[00:52:55.070] - Casey Scherer
And and that just grew throughout the sport. And people like Josh wanted, hey, you should make hats or something like that for all the awesome people. And the next thing I know, I'm, you know, getting fuel, clothing to make socks and hats and building a website, kind of starting a brand. And that's where Team Awesome came from. And Al had always supported me in that because he's like I said, he's like a brother.
[00:53:23.870] - Casey Scherer
And so he supports me in all my races. I don't think I ever missed a race rich, even if I even if I go karting days. He was my mechanic. He was always there as just a bro. And I never asked for anything in return just to have a good time. And so I feel that you have to pay it forward. I, I do the same thing for him. That mountain vibe where I come in and I help in any way I can be a volunteer to help out.
[00:53:52.530] - Big Rich Klein
That's really cool. Yeah. I wasn't quite sure what the relationship was with that. And I'm glad to hear I don't, I don't do the pay per view thing. I rarely watch any other racing because we're just always traveling or putting on a show. I do occasionally listen to Wyatt's podcast. Yeah, just in. One of the things is just because some of those drivers I don't know, since I'm not at Ultra4 races any longer or King of the Hammers was the only one I really got involved with.
[00:54:25.670] - Big Rich Klein
You know, I don't I don't know everybody anymore. So it's. Yeah, it's just it's grown. Yeah, it has.
[00:54:33.590] - Casey Scherer
It's hard. It's hard to you know, I have a hard time putting my finger on it, but the best way I've been able to follow along with newcomers into the sport and stuff is I follow the cars. So for instance, Bailey Coles now driving a Trent Fab IFS car and I always just follow that car. And who had the car before him and and and who like my brothers, we call it the little tribe car. That car went from my brother to Tom Wayes and then Tom Wayes to Mike Bou and Mike Bou to Ron Prindle.
[00:55:14.240] - Casey Scherer
I didn't know who Ron Prindle was. Right. So right. I mean, I just followed that car and and turns out like, oh, I know Ron Prindle. He was you know, he was always helping Mike Bou in the pits and, you know, he actually lived by me. And so that's that's the way I, I follow the new people in the sport.
[00:55:32.090] - Big Rich Klein
[00:55:33.350] - Casey Scherer
[00:55:34.070] - Big Rich Klein
So what else do you have going on, man?
[00:55:37.550] - Casey Scherer
Business is is really fun right now. Jason and I are involved in all kinds of neat stuff and family living out here at St George moved out California about a year ago where my brother in law, Lance Clifford, from Pirate four by four, he lives out here. My my wife and his wife are sisters. And so we are we're involved in and BMX bike racing with the little kids. And I've got a two and three year old Sloan and Cole, and they're out there on their Stryder bikes, you know, just Balance bikes.
[00:56:17.420] - Casey Scherer
They don't even have pedals or anything on them. And they're out doing the course for their niece and nephew, Connor and Callie are out racing BMX bikes. And and it's so cool to to watch them interact. And, you know, Connor is a national champion and racing BMX and it's cool to watch him like coach of along and, you know, look forward, go, go, go and pedal, pedal, pedal it. Just man, there's nothing better.
[00:56:43.130] - Casey Scherer
I absolutely just love it.
[00:56:46.130] - Big Rich Klein
That's awesome. When you can get the kids all involved and especially the older ones to teach the younger ones the tricks of the trade that they got, you know, either from coaching or from other racers as well.
[00:56:58.720] - Casey Scherer
You know, it's yeah, it's it's it's going to be tough for me not racing, because I have again, I have got that competitive mentality and I think I'm going to as much as I can teach my kids, I'm going to get my kids in to racing go karts and get my kids and the little polaris 170 and we do a ton of recreational wheeling really involved in trail cleanups and stuff around the St. George area. I had an absolute blast at your kids event out at Trail Hero, and I invited a bunch of people out this year to stay.
[00:57:39.400] - Casey Scherer
Stay with us at our house and. And go to that event, so, yeah, I'm still still really involved in the recreation wheeling and and just enjoy it, that's that's what that's what life should be about, is is enjoying what you're doing. I know that I. I had to become a promoter because I'm not. I'm not a very good winner or loser. I'm too I'm probably hyper competitive and I don't even play board games with family because it's a cheat, the cheated monopoly.
[00:58:21.790] - Big Rich Klein
I don't cheat, but then I can be ruthless, you know? I mean, everything is about blood. You know, it's I just I found that it's just a lot easier to keep friends and family around if I am not competitive, if I stay away from, like I say, even simple board games, you know. Yeah. Just as a as a racer, the only thing I, I competed in want to Charlene's events, Shelley wanted to cover it for the magazine and she goes, OK, you know, this is we're not we're not doing this is anything but media.
[00:59:00.160] - Big Rich Klein
You know, we don't have to win. We don't have to be, you know, at leaders of the pack or anything like that. And I'm like, okay, we'll try to do that, you know? And I'm going to try to take this. Not serious as soon as Ryan Miller went past me. It was everybody I mean, I was like fourth, the last to leave, the two passed me and then the last one in the pack was Ryan.
[00:59:29.420] - Big Rich Klein
And, you know, Ryan is he's hyper competitive. Oh, yeah. And he just goes blown by me in this in what they called the rally jeep, the little TJ. Yeah. And I'm like, no way. And I started Flooring it and Shelley, you know, after a couple of miles Shelley goes, What are you doing? She goes stop. We're going to stop for lunch. And I'm like, the middle of a competition. What do you mean?
[00:59:54.530] - Big Rich Klein
We're stopping for a lunch. But I stopped and then so, you know, and I'm chomping at the bit, you know, oh, my God, we're on the first lap. Everybody's on the second lap. You know, we're in the second lap was part of the first lap was just kind of like wear you out all around, you know, sand hollow. And then the second lap was all of these technical. Things you had to do, you had to drive blindfolded, you had a winch challenge, you had these other things and I didn't even get to the challenges.
[01:00:27.970] - Big Rich Klein
I come smoking around this corner again, knowing that I'm way behind and that, you know, we're going to be the last one through all these little challenges.
[01:00:35.510] - Casey Scherer
But you had to beat Miller.
[01:00:37.180] - Big Rich Klein
I had to at least see somebody in, you know, in front of me and I. I went into this canyon way too fast, hooked a rock that I'd seen earlier and said, OK, you know, I cannot hit that rock because if I do, I'm going to tear the tire up. I'm going to blow the rim. Well, I blew the rim. I mean, shattered and and it was a bead lock and it was like, OK, great.
[01:01:02.490] - Big Rich Klein
I don't even have my spare on because I was trying to go light. You know, my jeep is built for up or four down travel. You know, it has like an inch and a half up travel. So, you know, you can't go fast in the dunes. Anyway, I hit that rock and Shelley goes afterwards. You know, she was she was upset because I had taken it too seriously. And I told her, you know, I did warn you, you know, I mean, I just I can't help it.
[01:01:30.840] - Big Rich Klein
So it's better that I'm a promoter. When people ask me, why did you get into promoting it was because it was a way to be involved in the sport without having to be that hyper competitive. Big rich.
[01:01:44.070] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, well, we're glad you did, Rich, because, you know, I can't even count on my hands. How many events of yours I've been to, man? I just I look back at those events and, you know, meeting cool people like the Websters and hanging out with the Mellos and, you know, like watching Ryan Taylor and those guys, you know, with little funds go compete and just have so much fun competing and what your sport helped evolve into.
[01:02:18.990] - Casey Scherer
You know, hey, we want to go fast and slow. It's just it was the stepping stones for how big? A lot of the racing not you know, I mean, you had Vorra. I remember going to VORRA races and. Oh, man, that had to be. What year was that, two thousand, maybe a little later.
[01:02:42.480] - Big Rich Klein
Yeah, I took over in 2000 and. The end of two thousand and two, yeah, two, three, four, five, two, three, four and five. It was four years.
[01:02:54.970] - Casey Scherer
And seeing Randy Avery out there in his Jeep and I mean, I just the the friends and the people that we met in the spark, the industry, it's it's we owe a lot of credit to you, man. I appreciate it.
[01:03:09.790] - Big Rich Klein
Well, thank you. That's not why I brought that up, but I appreciate it. So is there anything that you want to talk about we haven't touched bases on.
[01:03:21.230] - Casey Scherer
Oh, man, I don't know, I. I'm just really excited to to still be involved in the Off-Road stuff and and I don't I like I said, I'm not get back in a race car. But, you know, I'm trying to help out some people right now. I'm going to be doing with the team awesome brand. I'm going to be doing some driver spotlight's on some people that I sponsor. There's some young kids growing up right now that are racing and the one 70 class that I'm trying to give some knowledge to, you know, and help them out, even just those little kids and big kids too, on the same same spectrum.
[01:04:07.560] - Casey Scherer
They get pretty excited when I give them some swag and some stickers and stuff because they just love that they can have a sticker on the side of their car that says awesome. Like, it just it puts such a smile on my face and, you know, for a couple dollars and stickers and a hat or something like that, it's it's pretty fun. It gives them a little bit more drive. And this month I'm actually showcasing one of my friends who just moved out to St George, Kevin Stern, who's race now race and forty four hundred in his BDS sponsored IFS car.
[01:04:42.120] - Casey Scherer
So this year I'm going to be doing them every month, the different drivers spotlight and promoting them and help promote them and show just how awesome some of these people that are involved in Team Awesome really are.
[01:04:56.600] - Big Rich Klein
That's great. That's yeah, that that is awesome.
[01:05:00.740] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, and it's it's for fun and it doesn't I don't ask anything in return for it. It's just to have fun and get people to get some eyes, get more eyes on some of these cool people and you know how much fun they have, too.
[01:05:15.770] - Big Rich Klein
So what is in the future? Are you going to continue? Well, you said you're going to get your kids into into racing if they wish to be doing it. Are you are you going to go into boating, go out to the lake all the time or get your casual days?
[01:05:37.010] - Casey Scherer
Yeah, my casual days. No, I really enjoy just the the taking the Bronco out. I have an old vintage Bronco. That's my very first vehicle actually. I bought it when I was 14 and I still own it and it's pretty robust and fun to go wheeling in. So I had my afternoons and sometimes the early mornings consist of loading that babies and going wheel. And let's see, last Friday I loaded up the kids and the raptor and took them out to the sand dunes where you were talking about earlier there and, you know, ripped around in our raptor.
[01:06:18.860] - Casey Scherer
And and, yeah, we just I love it. We we like to go down to San Felipe and Baja with the family and stay at our friend's house down there and hang out on the beach and just I'm trying to live and show my kids the best, the best lives that they can live. Again, it's this accident that happened to me in twenty nineteen, really opened my eyes to a lot of other things in life that I'm interested in doing well.
[01:06:48.620] - Big Rich Klein
Excellence. Yeah. Casey, I'd like to say thank you for, for coming on board and discussing your life and the situations that have happened in your life to get you where you are today. And I hope that anybody that listens to this gained some knowledge on, you know, the whole sponsor versus partner, the, you know, living that life to the fullest and, you know, can can gather some information out of that and put their right their life in the right direction.
[01:07:27.440] - Casey Scherer
Yeah. Thanks for it. Absolutely. Thanks for having me on. This is fun.
[01:07:30.890] - Big Rich Klein
OK, and again, thank you. You take care now.
[01:07:35.720] - Casey Scherer
Thanks. Bye bye. OK, bye bye.
[01:07:38.660] - Big Rich Klein
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