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They're that"},{"speaker":"Wade Bowen","startTime":3738.93,"endTime":3741.54,"body":"passionate about burning records"},{"speaker":"Wade Bowen","startTime":3738.93,"endTime":3741.54,"body":"and whatever."},{"speaker":"Thomas Mooney","startTime":3741.749,"endTime":3745.049,"body":"Yeah. Well, we're"},{"speaker":"Thomas Mooney","startTime":3741.749,"endTime":3745.049,"body":"rolling on an hour here. So"},{"speaker":"Thomas Mooney","startTime":3745.589,"endTime":3747.479,"body":"yeah, it's good talking with"},{"speaker":"Thomas Mooney","startTime":3745.589,"endTime":3747.479,"body":"Yeah,"},{"speaker":"Wade Bowen","startTime":3747.479,"endTime":3749.489,"body":"man. You too. Thanks"},{"speaker":"Wade Bowen","startTime":3747.479,"endTime":3749.489,"body":"so much. Gonna let you enjoy"},{"speaker":"Wade Bowen","startTime":3749.489,"endTime":3752.069,"body":"talking music. So yeah, it's a"},{"speaker":"Wade Bowen","startTime":3749.489,"endTime":3752.069,"body":"lot of fun. I'll let you"}]}