S10E2 - Beer, Brands, and Breaking Free (When Your Brand Becomes Your Identity, It's Time to Pivot)!!

What happens when your brand becomes so entwined with your identity that you can't tell where one ends and the other begins? This question lies at the heart of my candid conversation with Joe from mowPod as I navigate the emotional journey of ending Talk Show with P after five years.

"I've built such a good brand that everybody notices it and knows it, but I feel like Paula is being lost inside the brand," I confess during our heartfelt discussion. It's the creator's paradox—success that simultaneously validates and consumes you.

Joe shares wisdom gleaned from his own entrepreneurial path, from mowPod's evolution from newsletters to podcast promotion to creating the wildly successful Friday Night Karaoke community with 39,000 members. His approach to pivoting resonates deeply: generate multiple ideas, test them lightly, but commit fully to just one or two directions. "Don't keep driving off that cliff," he advises when something isn't working, acknowledging the emotional and financial cost of changing course while emphasizing the greater cost of persisting with unsuccessful ventures.

The conversation takes a personal turn when Joe identifies what he believes is my superpower: "You walk into a room and by the end of the day, everyone knows you and everyone loves you." His advice to build my next chapter around this natural ability to connect with people offers a blueprint not just for me, but for anyone facing reinvention.

Whether you're contemplating your own pivot, struggling with your identity as a creator, or simply interested in the behind-the-scenes reality of content creation, this episode offers raw insights into the challenging yet liberating process of reinvention.

FIND JOE AND THEM...

Friday Night Karaoke FB Community - https://www.facebook.com/groups/fridaynightkaraoke/

Friday Night Karaoke Podcast - https://www.fridaynightkaraoke.org/

mowPod - https://mowpod.com/

mowPod Charts - https://charts.mowpod.com/

Transcript

Talk Show with P Introduction

Speaker 1 0:02

oh, all right. Do you need a hitman?

Speaker 2 0:06

oh damn damn, that's loud. Press the recording. Oh yeah, that's the timer, I guess right now.

Speaker 1 0:14

What hi shit talkers, welcome to talk show with me and I am your host, paula the Shit Talker.

Speaker 3 0:26

Shit talking, always rocking Shit talkers. Come on and drop in. Shit talk is always shocking. Talk you shit with pain, yeah.

Speaker 1 0:38

I mean, don't we all like talking shit? Anyways, talk shit with pain.

Speaker 3 0:43

Talk shit with pain. Talk shit with Pay. Is the podcast for you. Talk Show with Pay yeah.

Speaker 1 0:56

Hi, how are you doing Good?

Speaker 2 0:58

How are you?

Speaker 1 0:58

doing? Where are we at? Look at where my head is there we go. I have my own book or something. There we go, there we go. So, joe, you haven't been on talk show with me in a minute, why not?

Speaker 2 1:12

I was, you know what. I keep checking my email for the invite and it's not there.

Speaker 1 1:16

You check your emails?

Speaker 2 1:17

You barely respond to emails Every day. I'm like, I'm like let me look up, paula, and see if I got the email.

Speaker 1 1:23

Joe is lying Nothing. When I email Joe, I have to message him check your email, because he barely checks emails.

Speaker 2 1:30

I check my emails. Every Tuesday, I check my emails.

First Impressions and Memories

Speaker 1 1:35

So how do you feel about talk show with Pete ending it's bullshit, it's bullshit.

Speaker 2 1:40

You didn't ask me first, like hey, I'm thinking of doing this, what should I do? Should I end my show?

Speaker 1 1:45

I would have been like oh, that's why we're here to talk about it. So let's get this off my chest.

Speaker 2 1:53

I know, get it off, take it off. This is a big wipe off my shoulders.

Speaker 1 1:58

I'm not. Oh, my God, we'll get you a beer later. You have known me for five years. Now is it five, four, yeah, like my entire talk show with your journey. Um, what was your first impression when you met me?

Speaker 2 2:14

and now, first impression when I met you yeah, you really want to know my first impression. I was like holy shit, like this girl's got fucking energy. I'm like she's a wild one. Actually, I met you at karaoke. I know that was our first thing.

Speaker 1 2:30

You guys had just closed a good deal. That night you were very happy.

Speaker 2 2:34

Oh, I know, it was a long time ago and we went to karaoke at some bar Was it Osh no, no, no. It was some other rant, it was like some other rant, it was like in Tampa.

Speaker 1 2:45

Oh yeah, it was in Tampa.

Speaker 2 2:49

I think so.

Speaker 1 2:50

Yeah, it was open outside.

Speaker 2 2:52

Yeah, it was outside.

Speaker 1 2:53

They had those bench seating and everything that's when Mike did the shaggy yes, we had Ed with us he said fuck us, are you?

Speaker 2 3:05

scared of us.

Speaker 1 3:08

My favorite of that night is that Uber. I will never forget that Uber ride going back to the hotel after Cy Young.

Speaker 2 3:15

Yes, that is part of my first impression of you was including the Uber ride, by the way.

Speaker 1 3:20

And now that you've known me for a few years, Same impression. Damn. I'm supposed to have some growth, Joe, no, not really no.

Speaker 2 3:29

Your character arc was perfect, like you've matured, you've you know, I'm sure there's something. You're awesome, you know what? You're always awesome and I think that's the like. Don't change oh you know, don't change.

Speaker 1 3:51

Yeah, so, as we are talking about, uh, me ending this journey, uh, why are you doing that again? We're gonna get to that, okay, and you, being you, know you have done a lot in your life. I I just found out that Mopad actually started in 2020. Is that right?

Speaker 2 4:09

I think somewhere around there Maybe it's. Yeah, I thought it was 2019. I thought it was yes.

Ending Talk Show with P

Speaker 1 4:16

Yes, so even with having a business right, sometimes you've got to pivot, sometimes you've got to change strategy. Yes, so for a person who's like me right now, who's trying to figure out ending Talk Show with P or maybe pivoting or rebranding, what would you say is the number one thing to look for in this?

Speaker 2 4:39

region. All right, that's a very good question. I think that you should come up with like 10 ideas and not all of them are going to be good, right, just come up with 10 ideas, write them all down and walk it through, like map it out, right, like write down what this idea would entail and try to build on a little bit, even if it's not the best idea. Just try to build on a little bit and and talk it through. You know, come up with some ideas. What, what would what would this branding for this one look like? What would what my guests look like? What would my uh, you know theme be like? And just come up with these things and just talk through like 10 of them, right, and then like at just maybe like demo 10 of them, right, find a friend, go online back. Okay, we're talking about idea number one and we're gonna phrase like this and we're gonna to phrase it like this and we're going to try to record something and it's just going to be stupid and off the cuff. We're just going to experiment and just see if this is even fun, if I like this at all, and then just do 10 different things like that. If they're all podcasts. You're all in the same spot. It's all recorded. If it's something different, try that out as well, but don't invest super heavily in it. Just give it a try, give it a walkthrough, give it a shot, see what sticks, and then narrow it down from there.

Speaker 2 5:50

Don't do all 10 of them and don't even do okay, I landed on five of them. I'm gonna do five of these ideas. Please don't do that. Don't do one, don't even start with one. Do one, maybe two, if it's like 10 questions, If it crosses paths with the first one. But I always meet entrepreneurs who are like okay, so here's what I do. Here's my five business cards. I'm running a company like this and then, completely irrelevantly, I'm running a solar company. Oh, and, by the way, I also have a podcast. Oh, and also I'm doing hand sanitizer. It's like. It's like oh, dude, like, like, slow down, like you're going to do all of them wrong, right, all of them. Are we taking a selfie in the middle of? You? Know, we're recording this on a thing.

Speaker 1 6:31

I mean you continue talking why?

Speaker 2 6:34

are you distracted by me? All right, but that's what you should do Pick one I at and then do it great.

Speaker 1 6:42

Speaking of landing on one and doing it, great, yeah. And you, having known me for quite a while, yeah, what do you think I'll be great at in your perspective?

Finding Your Next Path

Speaker 2 6:51

First of all. All right, I'll tell you Something with people, something where you are bringing together a lot of people and doing something. I don't know what. The something is Okay, but you walk into a room and, by the end of the day, everyone knows you and everyone loves you. So build on that. Build on that, cause that's what you're amazing at.

Speaker 1 7:13

I'm tired of people knowing me right now.

Speaker 2 7:16

Like build on that. Your strong points are making friends, having everybody know you and having and then figuring out what, what's going on and like doing the thing, getting everybody like amped up to do something right. What does that mean for you? How can you turn that into a job, right and where you do it professionally and get paid for it, right, like community organizer, manager of some sort? Like like like, if this conference was here, like, and everybody's just standing around like they wouldn't they hire you to be like hey, we're doing this and you get everybody to go and do something right, like something where and I don't know what that is and I'm just I'm just babbling, yeah, exactly, but it's something where you're dealing with people and it's funny how you brought up that people are standing and then bring them together.

Speaker 1 8:03

Yes, we're gonna go back to our first time when we met you. Remember when you were rushing people from the hallway into this uh speaker's room and the speaker didn't show?

Speaker 2 8:15

remember that I was like he was like get everybody there. Then the guy didn't even show up we.

Speaker 1 8:22

We ended up reminding people that karaoke is happening tonight, so it wasn't a loss.

Speaker 2 8:26

Right, that's good. Oh, that's true, we did get a special, okay, everybody put your what's your favorite karaoke song?

Speaker 1 8:39

And speaking of people thinking and me trying to find myself, you were there for my first stand-up comedy. I was how did I do Jim? Right, right, but I told you I I was gonna laugh, even if you did, you did tell me, we're still gonna laugh, but we're gonna tell you, don't ever do that shit yeah, okay, no, and I would have told you we were like I would have laughed real loud and I'm like ripple six show up for me now we were talking about.

Speaker 1 9:02

You asked me why I am talking about this ending talk show with you. Speaking of that, they just received one-of-a-kind talk show with him. They always do receive one-of-a-kind talk show with him. I like that. He liked it that much that he left it at the bar.

Speaker 2 9:18

I was half-drunk and then expected to remember it full drunk. I always do that at that time, hey you're sober and you have a backpack and you're going somewhere. You're like, hey, we're in the middle of a bar and you're trashed. Here's something, don't lose it. You got to work on that.

Speaker 1 9:37

So I've been in a place where I can't differentiate. I've built such a good brand TalkSharewp has been a brand that everybody notices it and knows it but I feel like Paula is being lost inside the brand. When I look at myself I'm like who is really Paula without TalkSharewp? I've become so much TalkSharewp that who the fuck is me?

Speaker 2 10:06

That's a plant. It's literally you. What are you talking about that's?

Speaker 1 10:13

Because we're quitting beer as well. Talk show EP is loud beer drinking.

Speaker 3 10:18

Okay.

Speaker 1 10:20

Energetic People, person.

Speaker 2 10:23

So you.

Speaker 1 10:26

Yes, but.

Speaker 2 10:27

So you're absorbing your own brand and you're upset that your brand is.

Speaker 1 10:32

I'm upset. I built such a strong brand. That's a problem. That is a problem most people want to have.

Speaker 2 10:39

You're like my business is failing because my brand is so freaking strong and everybody associates me with this fantastic brand.

Speaker 1 10:46

Chase was like what do you mean? You are talking with me.

Speaker 2 10:50

Some rough luck there, I see.

Speaker 1 10:54

So, vision-wise, right, we were talking more but started 2019, 2020. What was the vision when you were creating it and right now, where it is, five years later? Because you guys I don't know if my listeners know I know I talk a lot about it and lately I've been receiving messages because, for those people about Chattable, the more chats. You guys just produced more chats this year, right in January. So we are growing, growing, we are moving.

Speaker 1 11:25

So the vision you had when you started and where it's heading, right now, sure, so we actually didn't start in podcasts, we started in newsletters oh wow, yeah and so we were driving newsletters very strange newsletters, like every once in a while, when I receive a mobile newsletter, I'm like yeah, and so that's where we started newsletters, driving subscribers Newsletters, driving subscribers to newsletters.

Building Friday Night Karaoke

Speaker 2 11:47

And our newsletter clients were asking us if we would also produce I'm not sorry, promote their podcast. And we said no. A bunch of times we were like no, that's not what we do. So by like the fourth time we got asked, we were like all right, let. And by like the fourth time we got asked, we're like all right, let's figure this out, let's see if there's an actual thing here that we can do. But we don't know anything about podcasting. So we had to learn about podcasting because I didn't want to go in there and be like, yeah, I'm an explorer, do you tell me about this? And I don't know what I'm doing Like I just want to sound stupid. So I mean, I can sound stupid enough on my own, but at least if I can get some subject matter, I can sound less stupid right.

Speaker 2 12:24

So we built the pod. We built our own podcast, started from the ground up how to record it with a microphone, how to make that sound, not sound like crap, how to do video on how to record it. What's, what software is to use to record it, how do you host it right, where do you put it? What happens after that. So we wanted to learn all the things about podcasting when we started this up, uh. And then we promoted our podcast and we sucked at it. At first we couldn't get anyone to listen to it. We couldn't promote it. Well, it was, and if we had some good experience in promoting stuff, so it wasn't so bad, but it wasn't good. It wasn't like a good product, you know, uh. And then finally, after a while, it got good enough. Where we're like this is working loosely, let's go to our customers that asked for this and tell them that we think we got something. But we said, listen, we're just going to work on performance. You just pay for what you get, right, like, if we screw this up, you don't have to pay anything. So you just pay for what you get, and it's hard to say no to that. So they said yes, and we kept that same business model. We still work on performance today, several years later, because it's a fair business model. We don't want to just get paid and then, yeah, we'll do some promotion for you and hopefully somebody will listen. That's not cool, it's not what we like. So we say, all right, here's exactly what we're going to deliver and that's what you're going to pay for, and then it's our job to make that happen. And we still work like that. And then oh, this is later we just developed.

Speaker 2 13:45

You mentioned charts a minute ago. So one of the big charting platforms went out of business over the past year and left a bit of a void in the area of charting. So we said, all right, let's just make something cool and free forever for the entire community. But we yeah, there, you are Perfect. So we built a charts platform and you just go to chartsmopodcom and type in your podcast and that's it and you can see where you are in the in the top 200 charts in multiple countries, in multiple categories, subcategories, and there's no signup or anything like that. It can't required, though. If you want emails, if you can get a daily email, you can do that. Get a daily email for whenever your chart, whenever your podcast, is in the top 200. We'll send you an email and let you know how it's doing. So that's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 14:34

And I love it because I've been working up to the emails lately and I went from being 40 in Japan and next email I get I'm 39. I'm like, damn, what did Mike go do in Japan? Mike must be talking shit about me.

Speaker 2 14:49

You're huge.

Speaker 1 14:50

But you mentioned your podcast. Can you shamelessly plug it in?

Speaker 2 14:55

Shamelessly plug my podcast. Yeah, it's Friday Night Karaoke.

Speaker 1 14:58

They've been slacking lately.

Speaker 2 14:59

Check out Friday Night Karaoke. There's a Facebook group called Friday Night Karaoke and you go there and you, uh, answer like three simple questions, like will you follow the rules of the facebook? Blah, blah, blah. So you answer a couple things, but then it's free to sign up, free to join, and then you're in the community and we now have like 39 000 people in this community, which is really cool. There's a ton of people and it's negativity free, it's ad free.

Speaker 2 15:26

We do have a bunch of gimmicks, but it's a lot of fun and we have amazing users in there that are posting hundreds of songs every day. And what we do is we pick a theme of the week Like this week is country week, this week is eighties pop week, right and then everybody posts songs According to that theme. We then pick like eight to 10 songs and me and Mike go on our podcast and then play those songs live and it's pretty cool. I mean, some of our podcasts get upwards of 50,000 downloads. So you know you could be, you know, singing, all of a sudden karaoke and then 50,000 people hear it on our show the next week, which is just freaking awesome.

Speaker 1 16:03

It is. I love it, which is just freaking awesome. It is. I love it. And they also do competitions, like very amazing competitions. People win Amazon gift cards and a lot of fun stuff. And I love the community because, even though I'm not like, I am in the community but I'm not a big participant. But whenever it comes to like when I was being, I needed votes for the awards, we all put it on the community and people went and voted Like there's so much love. But again, you guys are full of love, Otherwise I wouldn't be hanging out with you all five years straight how many years I keep forgetting.

Speaker 1 16:41

But speaking of community, right, what made you guys build this community? Like we get the podcast, starting a podcast? Because you kind of had to test your own shit to make sure you know what you're doing with podcasts. As you say, you came from newsletters, but then now you have a very vibrant, impressive community and some of them even show up when you go to conferences and cities, when you do karaoke. But I met a few of them in january at portfair as well. So how did you guys end up deciding to create a community and sustain it that way? Because it really is negativity free, like I know every now and then there, but everywhere there's like once in a while those people just wake up in a bad mood or whatever.

Speaker 2 17:34

Yeah, well uh, I love singing, I love karaoke. Uh, mike loves karaoke and clearly he loves singing. He doesn't even need karaoke. He'll just stand there in the middle of random restaurants singing my card yeah, the restaurant performing it yeah, so we.

Future Plans and Pivoting Advice

Speaker 2 17:49

So we were like, once the pandemic hit and everything closed and we're like, all right, bored, right like, and everybody's doing like these, you know, like drunk zoom meetups and like. So, like, all right, let's just do karaoke, let's just sing karaoke online on the internet. I'm yeah, I don't know about this, uh, but he was like he was adamant about it and like we set it up and, uh, we just started posting a couple of things. We post things that were like we saw on the internet and be like, hey, come join the karaoke group. And all of a sudden it took off, uh, and it was pretty cool because a lot of people, uh, who were not amateur singers, some people were like in bands or professional singers that were also stuck at home. So all of a sudden, like tons of people started joining this group.

Speaker 2 18:31

Everywhere, from like from pure amateur karaoke singer to like professional musician, started joining our group and posting songs. And even today, like you know, everything's back opening end, which is great. But sometimes some of those professional musicians still pop in and post songs, like they walk with the theme. Sometimes some of those professional musicians still pop in and post songs that they want for the theme. They're like all right, it's 80s week. I'm going to jump in here Right. So it's so cool seeing that. And the community just grew nicely and we kept it negativity free and we we have an amazing group of moderators in there and they are just fantastic at making sure the community flows nicely and the theme is up and those prizes are given out each week. It's like ten dollar amazon gift cards, but it's just so much fun. It's just a cool thing to get. It's like oh, I got, I won the theme of the week amazon cut goes a long way.

Speaker 2 19:17

I'm an amazon shopper, I'm definitely not five okay for real and and it's just such a cool thing to have and we love the community and, uh, you know, we can go out to karaoke and it's just such a cool thing to have and we'd love the community and, uh, you know we can, we can go out to karaoke now, but it's still not the same as FNK. You know, it's just a great thing that we built and I'm super proud of it. Uh, the podcast is great. Uh, it ties in nicely with the business, obviously. So there's just a lot of overlap there. When I was talking about like-.

Speaker 3 19:46

So the five things I'm going to tie that back together.

Speaker 2 19:48

So if you do a few things, make sure they all are you know, complementary to each other and just one big thing.

Speaker 1 19:55

So this is one of the ideas I have, it's true, because I want to break up with Budweiser, so I'm trying to find a new beer, really Budweiser. So I'm trying to find a new beer. So I'm trying to record myself like create content as I go to different breweries and try different beer until I find my one. Like you know, like dating shows where people meet up and then, whatever, I'm doing it for my beer to find the love of my life.

Speaker 2 20:20

You have no shortage of content for this. You can do like a thousand different episodes, right, and that's perfect. I like it. Make it fun, you know.

Speaker 1 20:32

What else is more fun than going to breweries and trying beer and funding?

Speaker 2 20:35

Don't do it, don't do it by yourself. Like, go bring friends, bring different friends each week, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 20:39

Come bring in this friend.

Speaker 2 20:41

This friend, you know, like just make it, make it interesting.

Speaker 1 20:47

Yeah, you know, like, just make it, uh, make it interesting. Yeah, while we are having conversation, yeah, trying beer, which one do you like if it's gonna be so boring, like who wants to look at one person?

Speaker 2 20:55

myself just drink beers and record myself drinking a beer by myself in a bar. That's awesome. But bring a friend or two, or bring bring three or four just, or like hey, it's friday night, we're going out, there's six of us, we're going to try six different beers and everybody's going to talk about them and we're going to pass them around. Everybody's going to try a few and then edit it down afterwards and just be like all right, here's the winner of tonight. Here's tonight's winning beer.

Speaker 1 21:17

I love it because me alone is just everyday. All right. So I have this specific question If you could go back to 2020 or 2019 and give yourself one piece of advice before starting?

Speaker 2 21:38

I said buy Bitcoin. That's it.

Speaker 1 21:43

Sorry. I'm sorry, finish the question. Does Bitcoin still happen? Are people making money now? Because at one point it was like that talk of talk. Even though our manager just left us today to go to a Bitcoin conference, I guess it's still possible. What would it be so if you were to give yourself go back in 2020 after all the things you've learned?

Speaker 2 22:03

Honestly, I have no changes that I would make in my life because I love my life now.

Speaker 2 22:10

I love everything I'm doing. Now. I feel like if I went back there and was like let me, you know, let me go back in time and beat up the kid who beat me up in school, or something stupid, like I, I, I wouldn't be where I'm at now, like that's a, it's a good question and I wouldn't change a thing because I love everything about what I'm at now, like that's a it's a good question and I wouldn't change a thing because I love everything about what I'm doing now my family, my business, my friends, so I wouldn't change anything. However, I would totally sneak in a little thing that just says buy bitcoin and then and then just put it in an envelope and like, like that's it because right now, like if I opened up, like with everything that I have right now, exactly the same and I found like this little cool encrypted key and I could like download like just 10, just 10 bitcoin, like I'd be like pretty happy I mean, I don't think you kind of need bitcoin, joe, or giving out silver at podfest.

Speaker 1 22:58

You know that's a pirate fee. You know we had to give out some, some buried treasure speaking that y'all, if you've never been to Podfest, I would suggest at least coming just to see more pod booths. They out every year. I'm like what else? I think I go to Podfest just to see their booth and also drink their beer. They always have beer.

Speaker 2 23:20

I like free alcohol.

Speaker 1 23:23

All right as we wrap this up because, again looking ahead, what excites you most about the future of podcast marketing?

Speaker 2 23:32

Oh, good question. So I love what we're doing with the charts. I'm proud of the way it came out and, most importantly, we just released an update just the other day and every one of the things that we updated was based off of user feedback from the community thing, and we put this out there and I'm like give me some feedback, tell me what you like, tell me what you don't like, tell me what you want to see. And all the updates that we did was all based off of everything that people were telling us and I'm going to keep doing that because I use it as a as a user, which is why I designed it initially and how I how I wanted to use it as user. But there's tons of other amazing podcasts out there with different opinions and different ideas, and I want to take all those in and build just something that's just super cool for the entire podcast, and I think so we're doing it now. I think we got it, but there's definitely more to do that.

Speaker 1 24:25

And going back real quick, because again we're talking about community and you mentioned about it, how your Facebook community and you said you have amazing moderate I mean moderators. How do you pick the perfect moderating team?

Speaker 2 24:40

We picked them from the community, so they almost self-selected by being so active and proactive in the community and it was almost like the moderators that we picked were like it was a no-brainer to pull these folks in.

Speaker 1 24:53

Yeah, these people actually, technically they don't hire. They didn't pick me to be their unofficial ambassador, I just picked myself. That's how they roll, isn't it? So, since Paula here is thinking about pivoting or rebranding or ending it at all, how do you determine when it's time to pivot or let go of a particular strategy or project within your business? Because I know sometimes you guys come with ideas and they might go left than how you wanted it to do, or you might be like, yeah, this is a good idea, but maybe not right now.

Speaker 2 25:26

once, once you've determined that the thing that you thought was really cool in the beginning isn't working. Don't keep driving that direction. You know, sometimes you got I mean, you want to, you want to give it an honest shot right. Sometimes it might not be the idea. Sometimes it might just be one thing that you need to change, and I think you should try to change a few things and see if you can make something work before you completely pivot. Right. But if you've exhausted a bunch of different options and it just doesn't look like it's going to work, don't just keep driving off that cliff Like you gotta. You gotta change it, you gotta change it up.

Speaker 2 25:59

And I've seen it plenty of times in the past and sometimes it's hard to do. It's hard to be like all right, we're making a complete pivot. Everyone, all the shit that we've been doing for the past year and a half is over, we're doing something else. Right, it's a hard day, right, right, and it's an expensive day too, because you probably spent a lot of money building all that first stuff for the perfect past year and you've spent all that time and energy and love of building your own company and you're like all that shit's garbage, let's do something else like it's just garbage, right. So it all of a sudden now you're like we have to do something completely different. So it's expensive to do, but it could be more expensive to do Exactly.

Final Thoughts and Promotion

Speaker 1 26:41

Alright, as we come to an end. As someone who's witnessed my journey firsthand, what words of wisdom do you have for me as I close this chapter and embark on a new adventure? I?

Speaker 2 26:51

mean I kind of gave you my advice and everything no no, no, no, that's just the process, but I think the the the really advice is is stick to what you are amazing at, and that's people. You are an amazing person who brings out the most amazingness in everybody that you touch. I think you need to focus on that thank you, joe.

Speaker 1 27:16

Now let the people know where they can find you, where they can find more, but where they can find Friday night karaoke.

Speaker 2 27:23

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Speaker 1 28:06

They sure do, like when you go and book a demo, the call the email. They really do.

Speaker 2 28:11

I appreciate that and also, if you see us at one of these conferences, come to one of our karaoke parties. We're always going out, we're having some drinks, we're singing, we're having a good time. Definitely come to one of our parties.

Speaker 1 28:22

Just like we're about to do a few hours from now. Live from Evolution. Until next time, y'all. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Look at that, we finally did it.

Speaker 1 28:33

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Speaker 1 29:29

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Speaker 2 30:36

Did you press record?

Speaker 3 30:40

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Speaker 3 31:08

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