Parenting Balance Podcast

014 Nutrition Basics For Brains With Isa Griffin

Teresa VanPelt and Kelly Williams Season 2 Episode 14

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With the COVID pandemic seemingly never-ending, many families find themselves making unhealthy meal choices while limiting their physical activity. We are guilty of this ourselves and coined the weight we gained “the Covid-19 lbs.” This is why we were very excited to speak to Nutrition Coach, Isa Griffin to learn the basics of healthy eating to boost immunity, maintain a healthy weight, and have optimal brain function. She shares tips and tricks to simplify the process of making healthy food choices. In this episode, she suggested hiding chia seeds in a pudding to create a healthy dessert your kids will love. We found an Isa-approved recipe for chia seed pudding you may want to try. Check it out here. You can find Isa on Facebook @enourishnutrition, Instagram @isagriffin, and her website https://www.enourish.life.


Isa is a personal and professional coach based in California. She is a business owner and entrepreneur in the Health and Wellness industry. She is certified in small business management as well as nutrition coaching and has a thriving private client practice. Isa has a very versatile background that includes over ten years of experience in the spa and beauty industry as well as a career in modeling that allowed her to see the world. Most recently she has explored commercial gardening on her family property where she has rediscovered her profound love for nature and plants. As much as the pandemic has grounded her, before this adventurous soul could be found surfing in Costa Rica or sightseeing in China, this girl truly loves to travel. Right now though, she can be found embracing slow-living in the redwood forests of Northern California with her longtime partner Zack and their pup Moosh. 


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Kelly Williams :

Hi everyone, welcome to the parenting balanced podcasts. My name is Kelly Williams. I'm a licensed clinical social worker and an ADHD parenting expert by experience. I'm here with my partner. Hi, I'm Teresa Vanpelt. I'm a licensed mental health counselor and anxiety parenting expert by experience. And for the past 10 years, Kelly and I have had a family practice in Florida. This podcast is for parents who want to really understand what's going on with ADHD and anxiety. So you can ditch the chaos and feel confident and happy again.

Teresa Vanpelt :

Easily Griffin, is a professional nutrition coach based in California and the founder of nurse nutrition has wonderfully adventurous spirit underlines her down to earth approach in using science based strategies to help our clients create achievable diet and lifestyle plans and improve their overall wellness. Thanks so much for being here today. Yeah, thanks for having me. I am so excited to talk nutrition today and I really got to admit that it is for selfish reasons. I have been joking with my friends about the COVID-19. That's 19 pounds I think I've gained started, you know. Well, frankly, it's not funny anymore like.

Kelly Williams :

It feels like it's never ending, and I want some real information about. Gosh, what can I do to make changes so that we can kind of adapt to the current situation where we're really getting a lot less movement, and we've got a lot more stress, you know, and I want to know to you So what can we, or there's nutritional things that we can do to like boost immunity, or our family. Yeah, Kelly I hear you I think that everybody is going through that right now and that word adapt is definitely something that deserves attention because whether we are aware of it or not, that's what we're all doing so. I have a quick list of eight tips to optimize optimize your immunity and protect your health. During this new adaptation that we're all facing with COVID-19. So I'm just gonna rapid fire go through them and if you were Teresa find one to be more fascinating or want to know more about it. I can kind of dig into the dig into the nitty gritty of it, but we'll just jump right into the first one. The first one is to focus on Whole Foods and key nutrients. The second is to achieve and maintain healthy body fat level.

Isa Griffin :

The third is to support your gut health. The fourth is to move your body. The fifth is to moderate your alcohol intake is to sleep well. The seventh is to balance your stress load, and the eighth is to remember hygiene fundamentals. So, those are kind of overarching themes that we can come back to, as we're going into a stressful time or going through a stressful time or just needing to adapt. I kind of like it as a framework to just come back to.

Kelly Williams :

Okay, so I can say that I only know like what to do.

Isa Griffin :

If you would ask me what is this right. So let me start with number one. What are the key nutrients.

Kelly Williams :

What are they.

Isa Griffin :

Yeah. So for right now I would say the key nutrients would probably be protein. Vitamin C, vitamin D, zinc, and our omega three fatty acids. So those are the ones that I would say we want to look at and then just on a more broad spectrum The Whole Foods part is important, I coach this, and it's very simple, almost too simple sometimes that essentially just be eating whole foods and what that means is through is that you would find in nature. Right. So, how it grew right yeah if you were out foraging would you be, would you be able to find something like that and and when the answer is no. Most of the time it's process. So that's the difference there is of leaning towards a whole food diet that you could find in nature, because that's going to give you. I mean nature is amazing. It really does provide everything we need as beings. And if you're getting a balanced whole food diet most likely you're getting all your minerals, vitamins and nutrients that you need for your body to perform and be healthy and keep its immune system, healthy and strong and vital. Okay so whole foods are key to supporting

Kelly Williams :

a healthy immune system. Absolutely. Alright, achieving and maintaining a healthy body fat level, I almost want to avoid this one right now because of that. Like how do you know like what is the healthy body fat level. Well they have calculations for this based on your height and height, age, and so they have you know a chart that kind of gives you a general idea, although every being is different body fat percentage is is pretty accurate. What this means overall to is not just overweight or underweight as well so. So we want to make sure that we are giving our bodies sufficient nutrients, so that we have a healthy body

Isa Griffin :

fat levels because we don't want to not have enough fat, we need fat. we can talk more about that and the misnomer around that right now, but we don't want excess adipose tissue we don't want excess fat on our body because that that creates a strain on our internal organs and can can make it harder for our systems to run efficiently, but we also don't want too little fat because that our bodies have to work really hard to try and do basic functions that require fat to the system to carry out the function that they need to do. Yeah, totally. It's easier for me to see how not enough fat is an immune system stressor

Kelly Williams :

too much like my challenge for a lot of the kids. The parents that we work for if they're on a stimulant medication, their appetite. So it's really hard to maintain that appropriate weight, I think. Right, I am I have lots of tips and tricks for how to get more fat. Yeah. But that that is a big challenge but, again, I like that you pointed out, it's also a spectrum, it's just not too little to talk about gut health, like, how do we support our gut health. Okay so gut health is so fascinating. There's so much research now that that connects our mental health to our gut health and there's a big nerve that runs from our brain to our gut and that's why when you have something bad happens you get a really, like, a stomachache. Or if you're, you know, equilibrium is off you don't feel well like there's these, there's this connection there that we've now. Science has proven, and there's also a connection in the gut biome which means your bacteria that naturally live and thrive in your gut and your mental health. And so, in that regard that that's just fascinating in the first place but also supporting your gut health can also help your flora and fauna in all different areas like your skin, your allergies your, I mean, I could, I could go on it's just pretty fascinating, your gut health, and there's ways you can support that gut health, and one of them is by eating pre and probiotic rich foods. So, those are going to favor. Your yogurts your bananas your sauerkraut. Anything that's fermented those foods are really good to build up the

Isa Griffin :

healthy bacteria in your gut that then have a nice balance with the bad bacteria is there anything that's coming in that they're not not conducive to a healthy flora and fauna so I like to think of it as like your gut health is like your. I don't know like a terrarium. And it's just this perfectly balanced thing and it has these little bugs in it but they're okay because they eat the other little bugs and like, it's just you know this thing. Yeah. Like you need the good, you have to have a certain amount of good bugs, because they keep that in balance right because we're out of balance so it's that that like you'll always like your person we go to seed cuz the seeds that that parsley with flowers and seeds it feeds all the insects that will eat the bad insects on the rest of your garden it's that kind of concept, you know.

Teresa Vanpelt :

Yeah, apparently they're right now.

Isa Griffin :

Yeah, let it go girl let it go,

Kelly Williams :

something new today. Oh wait, let me back up for the bananas here because my husband is like he has to eat a banana every single day, and I had no idea that bananas contribute to gut health. Yeah, same with like weeks, weeks or prebiotics so those are a good word. There's a lot of foods on that list when you start to look into it. We'll know or yogurt, you know, but there's a lot there's quite a few that you can get and again it just goes back to that whole food diet when we're eating a variety of different foods found in nature. They really do provide us with a lot more than we kind of acknowledge conventionally. I don't think I've ever heard of prebiotics before today. Okay, that surprises me because I'm a little bit of a foodie, and I'm a gardener, and I don't know that I ever made the connection I was I you know like probiotics on all the TV commercials and, you know, that's been sort of marketed to us but I maybe I'm just losing my mind, but I don't, I don't know that I ever realized there was prebiotics such a

Isa Griffin :

thing as prebiotics yeah yeah there are and they're actually starting to kind of be proven to be just as if not more effective. Okay. And like you know how there's certain

Kelly Williams :

vitamins and minerals that you take in combination. Right, yeah. Vitamin C, probably not gonna get it right but you know what I mean. prebiotic and a probiotic Is that like a combo kind of a thing that you want to eat together in one meal to maximize the effect. That's a great question. I don't think so not necessarily I don't think it could harm you, but I think they're perfectly okay taken together or separate. Okay, okay.

Isa Griffin :

Once like this is kind of a developing. You know we're learning more and more so it will be cool to follow.

Kelly Williams :

Oh, yeah, you know, I think in your field in nutrition is very much the same as in our field of like we're keeping up with the brain science is like every day you wake up and you can literally learn something new every single day because it's moving along, so quickly. And I feel like maybe nutrition is similar that way because it's all the technological advances all this.

Isa Griffin :

You know we can do things now with technology that we never could do before. Yeah, it's true and honestly it's, it's also. There's so much science and new information coming in but just just if you boil it down to the human body from like anatomy standpoint, what happens when you put specific different foods in your body and how they individually get broken down and utilize that science in itself is honestly a huge topic and I mean I still have so much to learn when it comes to nutrition and the human body. I definitely don't, I don't claim to know it all because it's just such a vast and fascinating subject. So, yeah, it's, it's ever changing but in in the way that new science is coming out and we're finding out more about our bodies which, which is what I really love I love that. When I was first studying nutrition I remember like reading my textbooks and then just being so stoked at this information and sharing it with my partner and be like, oh my gosh. Did you know that when you do this, this happens and he would just kind of glaze over and be like, that's awesome. To me, geek you want to kind of like, Oh, totally, totally.

Kelly Williams :

So it sounds like you come from, you know, like in medicine, we would call this way of thinking like a functional medicine perspective. And so it sounds like you've come from like a functional nutrition perspective, where you're looking at the entire body is one thing you're not isolating trying to like take it apart and isolate things on their own. Is that my hearing it right. Yeah, absolutely. And that's actually just by just by nature, not necessarily by education because they do teach you know functional nutrition therapy, which I'm not certified in, but through my coaching practice, I just had seen. You know that it really is a whole package that a person's well being is not just one face. One part it's not just looking good or eating the right thing you know it's emotional reasons for why they hadn't done that in the past it's, you know, spiritual connections to themselves and what that really means for them their own definition of that you know it's it's the financial it's but it's all of it it all feeds into whether or not they're, you know, progressing in the way that they want to progress in their life and so yeah I look at the whole person when, when I'm coaching my private clients and we dive into things that come up because I think that life is the one that is teaching us like what we're supposed to be going through and even sometimes they don't acknowledge it or realize it but it's always like right they're showing us what we need to be working on or can be working on and so in that regard. Yeah, I really look at it as a holistic thing and I look at you know nutrition and health as a holistic practice that's really custom and individual I really never want anyone to feel like they have to do it this certain way Or else they're not a healthy individual, you know, you have to be vegan or you have to do this it's like no no no no no, we're all so unique. We all deserve that unique treatment because

Isa Griffin :

our lives are different our kids are different. Our surround environments are different, you know and and what one person needs the other person out there so just overall I think it's really important to acknowledge that everybody's journey is going to be different. It doesn't have to look the same. You know, yeah I'm so glad you said that because so many you know when you have kids that are different, right. That's what our podcast is about kids that have brains that are different. A lot of it can feel very isolating, you know, and it can feel like we're not we're not like everybody else in this idea that everybody's, you know like, we're not all supposed to be the same.

Kelly Williams :

You know, we weren't designed that way. And you're sort of validating that from your perspective as a nutrition coach, and, you know, I somehow you know I feel like the tide is turning. And we're progressing toward being able to accept our differences, but I feel like we're coming out of this time. When I don't know like maybe if people really felt more like we should look like what media portrays For example, I don't know what do you think Teresa, I know that you know with anxiety you specialize in anxiety. And a lot of times, kind of like what people are thinking about you is a great trigger for feeling anxious. Right. I just like the whole thing of. I'm hoping that we're kind of moving to a different point. Culturally that we've got to figure out what works for our family, and what's best for our family and this time this downtime that we've had. We've gotten to know our family intimately on different levels and we've been challenged in different ways, and especially our population with anxiety and ADHD, what works for other families does not work for ours. Just, the more you know like culturally being more accepting of that. This is okay and different isn't wrong and we've got to find our way. And that's our hope for these, especially these interviews and these podcasts, a podcast episode is to provide the information for people to figure out what their balances, what works best for their family. Right, right, because everybody's different when we're overwhelmed with things, I mean this is what I do in my therapy practice. If someone comes back and they're having challenges again, or whatever, it's like okay let's go back to the fundamentals let's go back to the core, and let's build back up again. Yeah,

Isa Griffin :

yeah absolutely I do that in my practice to Theresa where we, we have a thing that we call a growth mindset and in that growth mindset, there is no such thing as failure in any of my programs, there's no such thing as failure all we have is data we gathered that we can read and go through and then, you know, change our path accordingly so instead of like I messed up I, you know, ate all this stuff or whatever, we go back to that scenario ago what was happening right before that and around that time that led you down that path, okay cool now we know and now in the future, let's just try this tiny you know atomic habit or incremental switch and see how that works. Next time you know we just take the information and grow from it. We never just throw it all out. Yeah, I love it, I love it. Well, and I know that you help people better understand nutrition from a science based perspective but I'm wondering if there are common misconceptions or myths about nutrition that you see in your practice. Yeah, I do there's there's a lot. One of the biggest ones that I think is pretty detrimental. Is that fat is bad, and that that eating, they all eat less than two all lose weight, like that one too is a tough one, I see in a lot of females, but the fat one is really, really detrimental to the system. So, thanks to the low fat craze of the 80s and 90s people were giving. So you like people in that that timeframe we're eating less fat than ever before,

Kelly Williams :

and sugar,

Isa Griffin :

which is probably the worst thing that could have been advertised or are just the worst thing for disease prevention and brain health and overall body composition and health I mean that's just, we know now that that was like the worst thing to do. So, there was marketing about that. I mean, I believe our like Food and Drug Administration was condoning. Oh yeah. And it really from a from a health standpoint. That was just sabotage to the nutrition and, and health professionals. I was like, what it's like a marketing campaign to just tear down people's health. Feels like from from my standpoint, and we're still coming out of that you know we haven't fully transitioned out and been re educated around fat, and where their role in our diets and what that means. So, the standard American diet is still chock full of the wrong types of fat and when I say wrong kinds of fat, I just mean trans like trans usually when you think trans you can think bad like trans fats, trans fats that are created from industrial food processing. So again, if we stick to our whole foods diet. We're going to be not consuming and we're going to naturally be avoiding those high processed fats like canola oil and things like that. Okay.

Kelly Williams :

just let me, let me just ask right off the top okay because I'm thinking about like and I do my very very best to do the whole foods, but you know like kids eat potato chips. You know, and sometimes I have to make a deal and it's like if you if you need this, then you can have that. So is there a way to look at a food label, and know, like for example, veggie straws, compared to regular potato chips on the outside in fact veggie straws says they're better. Are they really better, like, probably not. I mean what we're looking at. They're in this same vein of like trans fats, is we're looking at high oil, they're they're using very highly hydrogenated oil which means they add hydrogen to the oil and it makes it have a longer shelf life It makes it a better consistency and, but it's really not good for the body, it is harder for the body to break down. So in that regard when you're looking at the two labels you're looking at the transport level you're looking at, You know what kind of oil looking at the ingredients is a big deal, just looking at the number of ingredients

Isa Griffin :

can be a good hack like if you're going to a store and you need to get out of there because your kids crying or you hard time crunch. If you have two items in your hand and you're looking at them and they're comfortable, you know items, and you look at one has a really long list of ingredients and one has a short list of ingredients, just grab the one with a shorter list of ingredients because most likely it's healthier. Okay, that's awesome. I love that one there's one that's pretty common that I've heard and what's your thought about this one if you can't pronounce the food and the ingredient labels and it's probably processed the chemical or something like that. Yeah, and that's that's pretty true sometimes it's not sometimes there are names for, you know, a derivative of vitamin C that's just super long and you can't pronounce but it's perfectly good for you. But, rule of thumb that if you don't know what it is like, you know, and you're not willing to put in the research to find out what it is, it's probably a good idea to avoid it because I mean if you think about that. Where else would you do that you know if you didn't know what, like if this was some random thing and it was, you know, given to you as like a face cream but you had no idea what it is that's a bad example in their face dream but not a great one. Again, that's like one of those nerdy things that I do like I know not everybody does. I guess a better example would just or just in general, a better way to look at it is like, if you know your body can break down things. Best that are found in nature and that you can pronounce and see and you know what they are. So, when you have ingredients that you have no idea what they are or, you know, it's probably a good idea to just, you know, at least let your red flag go up and go. Okay, I don't know what that is. So, I don't know if my body knows how to process map very well.

Teresa Vanpelt :

When you were talking about that we were talking about some knots of healthy fats to trans fat and things like that. What are Kelly Do you have more questions about. I want to know what the healthy ones are about the healthy fats. Yeah. Okay, so the healthy fats are, you know, two of them

Isa Griffin :

let's just go into two of them are omega sixes and our omega three fatty acids. And those are the ones that the body the human body requires for survival. I'll say that again, they require for survival so your body requires those two fatty acids to survive. And you put the body of the human body doesn't produce them. So, it's your responsibility as your body's live in owner to get it though. So your omega threes and your omega sixes. Your omega three is found in mackerel in cod and oysters and sharing and chia seeds and hemp seeds and walnuts, among other things, and maybe they act as a launching pad for hormone production, and they help to prevent heart disease and strokes and are an integral part of the cell membrane throughout the body. So they're really, really helpful that they're good good good fats. They also help reduce inflammation and it can improve mood and sleep, they help with muscle growth and improve insulin sensitivity. They're awesome. Wow, okay but almost every single thing on that list of omega threes, my kid was

Kelly Williams :

right. So, the walnuts. I mean walnuts chia seeds, hemp seeds. I would I have to make a major effort to get those into the diet. And so my question is like is there enough if my kids will only eat chia seeds, hemp seeds and walnuts, you know, we're talking about two tablespoons a day, at best, or maybe even a week, at best, is that something I should supplement. Instead, or how much of it, do we need you know that's a really good question. I, you know, I wouldn't be careful for myself to advise supplementing especially to children because my thought on this is that if they're getting a well rounded amount of vegetables and fruits and seeds that they really don't need it, and that if you, if he went into that you would want to go in the way where you would do a blood test and really figure out if they truly are, they're interesting. Yeah, definitely.

Isa Griffin :

But, um, you know, I honestly like they wouldn't they wouldn't be sick if they were really this deficient in that so most likely they are getting in that. And, you know, one little hack with the chia seeds and hemp seeds and walnuts is, you can kind of blend those together and then you can do like a chia seed pudding, that, that you can put some cow and some maple syrup in and make it sweet and you can, you know, hide it as a dessert for your kids. Ah, okay. Do you have a recipe for that because we're gonna have to put that into our community. If you do, yeah i mean i don't have I'm, I'm kind of a like whim. I know how to do the, because when you soak chia seeds in milk overnight. They like plump up and turn into jelly, they do and I think it's a two to one ratio isn't it. Like when I'm not sure that a lot of kids with neurological differences have food sensitivities. And so, when you're in that situation, textures that come problematic. And so a lot of times we're, you know, kind of running around trying to figure out. Not only are we trying to find things that taste good, but a lot of times, our kids are resistant to what we're serving, because of the smell of it, or the texture of it and what it like actually feels like on the mouth. So, yeah so knowing you know kind of knowing about like

Kelly Williams :

putting you know like a lot of kids, they'll take a pudding. And so Pudding Recipe would be really good, because when you're eating something that's like pudding but there's something crunchy in it that that sends off the alarm bells for kids, you know. Yeah, so we'll have to, we'll do a little research and we'll put some links in the show notes maybe to some resources that we can use and I can consult with us so to make sure that we're finding good recipes.

Isa Griffin :

Yeah, that would be great. No, no,

Teresa Vanpelt :

I'm sorry, go ahead. No, you go. I was just saying like you were talking about the omega threes but then you also mentioned them mega sixes. Yeah, so are mega six sixes are pretty similar with what they're found and they're found in things like walnuts, salmon flax or beans. And they're also important and they help produce hormones and improve brain function and muscle growth and just in general, those are those are the

Isa Griffin :

two fatty acids that are essential but it's just in general, when we go back to that concept of, you know, fat, being bad. I think it's good to remember and needs to be acknowledged that, like every cell in your body is encapsulated with fat, like we absolutely need fat for a healthy cellular system, and, you know, another thing like lipid soluble substances such as fats active special transport transport mechanisms that help the central glucose pass through the blood brain barrier. So that's like kind of mouthy and wordy but like, essentially, what that means is we have this blood brain barrier that keeps bacteria, out of our brains, and only a few things can actually pass through that. These omega fatty acids are one of them, alcohol and drugs, unfortunately, are some of them, but it's really amazing that we can have foods that can actually pass through that red blood brain barrier and help us with her cognitive health in that way and then the fats are what helped transport and those lipids are what help transport those things through that passage so how essential, they are to our system and our health is really something to turn on to say it's kind of like, fat,

Kelly Williams :

or to cognitive health. What prebiotics, and probiotics are to gut health.

Isa Griffin :

Yeah, or protein is to muscle growth.

Kelly Williams :

Yeah. Protein is to muscle growth. All right, all right. Wow, you know like, it's so fascinating now I gotta ask this because we live in Florida, and I'm a gardener, and I'm about to harvest all of my avocados from my, My trees that I have outside that I avocado a healthy fat.

Isa Griffin :

Which one is omega six or omega three or is it a different. It's a different one, it's a different one. And when we talk about those types of fats like avocados are our coconut oils are not both of those kinds of fat. There's, there's a way that I coach my clients to make sure they're not getting too much or too little. And it's the same way I teach and coach about proteins and veggies and carbs, and that is by using your hand to measure, because you don't have to weigh it, you don't have to bring a measuring cup anywhere. You can just eyeball it based off your individual hands. Okay. So when we think about, fat, we want to look at our thumb. And for a balanced meal I can just go through this really fast with you guys like a balanced meal you'll want depending on if you're a male or female, but one to two thumb sizes of fat on your plate. Okay. It's like eating as much, avocado as my thumb.

Kelly Williams :

COVID-19 is coming from.

Isa Griffin :

Just a guideline to help you were eyeballing your plate, to kind of be like, oh okay so and you when you look at your thumb you can carry it down, it's not just like where your thumb leaves your palm, you know it's it's a little bit below as well like any kind of muscle. Yeah, maybe not all the way down in the muscle part but like halfway down. So it's one to two thumb sizes. And then it's one to two cup handfuls so like if you were to put you know salt in the very middle of your hand you cup your hand like that or cupping water. So one to two cup handfuls of carp. And then, if you make a fish for their hand, it would be one to two fish per meal of vegetables. And then protein if you open your hand like you're saying hi, it would be that palm size one to two palm size of protein per meal.

Kelly Williams :

Oh my gosh, I love this.

Isa Griffin :

Yeah. And that's really what it is like exactly and, and you can eyeball it on your plate like when, when you have a buffet style or, you know, I don't know if your family's like sit down or they like plate themselves up as they go through their kitchen but for us we usually like plate ourselves as we get in the kitchen so for me, I'm making my plate I can kind of mentally be like okay there's a, you know, my sweet potatoes so I know that that's a car so I'm gonna do you know one cup handful of sweet potatoes and I don't necessarily like put them in my hand but I kind of have an idea of what that looks like and I can can judge my meal planning on my plate that way.

Kelly Williams :

Because you can, you know, kids with non neurotypical brains need a tangible example like they they like to know things, but it's hard working memory is weak and it's hard to remember things. And so it's like wow if you everything you can measure just using your hand, and I'm assuming that a kid sized hands would be a good portion. Right. Yes, but if they're still hungry like and it's the same with same with adults like if that's not enough fruit food for you if you're still hungry I always say like, give it some time because the mind and the stomach have a lapse especially when we're eating quickly, where they don't catch up to them to catch up to each other, fast so you know take a few deep breaths, you know, get up, walk around, give it 10 minutes and if you're still hungry, like keep eating for kids if they're still hungry. If the stuff on their plate is Whole Foods and they're still grinding and they want seconds I say let them go, they need it. Yeah. Yeah. But if they're saying I don't want to eat this but then 10 minutes later saying Mom, can I have a bowl of ice cream. Right then, then, I always just leave the plate out and say you can eat what's on your plate and then have ice cream, you know, but that is tricky because they're very good at, you know, explaining how full they are and how they're very dramatic and everything and I'm curious Five minutes later it's like, Hey, can I have some ice cream. But having this information in a simple kind of a formula, you know, is really what's key because when you got this house full of kids and when your house full of kids happens to be like emotional or hyper, you know you're kind of frazzled all the time. So, what was it, number, number seven on your list balance your stress. You know sometimes we can't do that right so

Isa Griffin :

handy formulas for what to do you feel empowered you feel good about what you're doing. Even though it looks chaotic on the outside. What were How can they find out more from you, Lisa, I know that you do a live every Sunday on Facebook. Is that right, I do yeah I do a live video every Sunday from my a nourish nutrition page on Facebook and I have a poll of every week, that, that you can vote on the subject of the week so my viewers and followers so on the subject so I know that it's something at least a couple people were interested in not just me coming up with stuff off the top of my head, and, and all of everybody is welcome to add any questions or topics that they would want to dive further into, and then, always, always, always during those lives, they're open to comments and questions and I answer any questions to the best of my ability on any topic, regardless of the subject matter topic that comes in yeah i i was on your live last Sunday and it was awesome, you know, and I just you have such a kind of down to earth. You put in an easy way of explaining things, and get what you're trying to explain is really quite complex you know and so I think it's a quite a challenge. Thank you so much for joining us and we have learned so much.

Teresa Vanpelt :

If people want to follow you to get more information on your, you talked about teaching teaching your clients and Is that like a membership program.

Isa Griffin :

So right now I'm doing a freestyle of my website so I'm not sure when this airs if it's going to be up and running yet on the website, www dot nourish dot life. You can find out more information about my membership program which you can apply to. It's a year long program, and it comes with, you know, okay three voice lessons readable lessons and daily habits, as well as added support for me as a private coach, and then, so that is going to be featured on there and there's more information there that you can find that, and that's through the precision nutrition programming, which is amazing, all about a lot of that science based nutrition. And then I also have private clients, so they work one on one with a small group of people and on the website you'll see more information about that there it dives in a little deeper so if anybody's interested in learning a little more you can just go to the Facebook page for show notes, so I can, can I link. I don't know if I can link to the Facebook

Kelly Williams :

page but

Isa Griffin :

I'll try. Absolutely, or I can send you the link direct to the article, too. So with a private coaching I have three months, six months and 12 months programs and my, my three month program is really popular and that's where I do personal, professional coaching so I'm certified in small business management, as well as nutrition coaching so I have clients that are working on all different transitions in life, not just health. So in that realm. We have my private clientele where we dive into different things but I support all of them with this nutrition knowledge and you. If you are a private client you automatically get access to that membership. Good to know. Good to know. Wow, thank you for, you know, for like sharing this with our listeners today. This is wonderful. It's really helpful. I'm so grateful to be able to interact with you and I just hope that all the listeners gained some some value and some knowledge from this because really, honestly. That's one of the reasons I dove so hard into nutrition and this career is because I think it was, it was so fascinating I just felt like the more people knew, the more they would be in awe of what their bodies are doing for them and the better they would treat themselves and then by doing that, the better their lives would become so I'm hoping that that ripples out. We got to link to your, we're gonna link to your Facebook page in the show notes.

Kelly Williams :

Perfect. Thank you so much again for being here today. I really appreciate it. And I just think what you're doing is amazing.

Isa Griffin :

Thank you, Kelly Thank you Teresa I really appreciate the opportunity to be honest with you guys and reach to reach more years than I normally do. Thank you for listening to the parenting balanced podcast, to join our mailing list, go to parenting. Transcribed by https://otter.ai