This episode featured the ever reliable Michael Massey and the inaugural appearance of my dear dad, Brendan. We discussed what it means to be a Catholic in public life and further, the fact that so many prominent Catholics appear to be living contradictions. The conversation concluded with a comment on the Vatican's recent survey to gauge the relevance of the traditional mass under Summorum Pontificum - and a sneak peak into the beautiful bottle of Sangiovese that gradually disappeared over the course of the episode.