Hi , this is Carolyn and I'm here with Erin and we're going to talk about trying out for an adult recreational team . Aaron , have you ever had to try out for an adult recreational team ?
ErinNo , I haven't , but I do have a story about it . But the reason we're doing this is because it's so ridiculous to do adult recreational tennis team tryouts .
CarolynWell , I have , and I also got cut from that tryout . So maybe it should be getting cut from an adult recreational team . I'm not sure . So this was my first experience with adult recreational tennis . I took a lesson from a tennis pro and he set me up with a lady that he said I should go and hit with . After I'd taken a few lessons he said go and hit with this person , she'll be great . Well , I go to hit , and it is with a team of two , five ladies and I was terrible . I was hitting the ball over the fence so I should have been cut . I mean , the captain wasn't wrong , but I didn't even know .
ErinI was trying out Like I just thought I was going to hit .
CarolynI was trying to make new friends . You know you're an adult , you don't have any friends . I'm trying a new sport and then , after I practice with these ladies , I get a text from the person who's the captain and just saying hey , I'm sorry , there's not a spot for you on the team .
ErinThanks , but no thanks . The team is full . Magically , we filled the spots today , Right before this text . We filled all the spots .
CarolynYeah , before , before the practice , there was a possibility , but afterwards there is no , and I told it to somebody and they were like you probably could have looked it up , because where we live in North Carolina , where we are on our spring team , there's a limit of 15 people and they told me to look . I should go back and look up and see if there was only 13 on that team or , you know , not 15 .
ErinRight , yeah , that's so funny . So I didn't have that experience that I know of . I mean we all could have gone through tryouts , right . I mean that's how crazy adult rec tennis can be . We probably all had a trial and maybe didn't know . And it was funny that the pro set you up with , let's say , this captain , but then it was like a whole team of people , so you were probably not only being judged by her whether you could it's not like you were just going out for a friendly hit but like all eyes were on you and you had no idea .
CarolynFor sure , nobody wanted to play with me , right , because I played on different courts that night . I remember that and I guess nobody said yes that and I guess nobody said yes .
ErinThat's even better . Oh my gosh , I could just picture it . And here's the funny thing about Carolyn . So I know you got good really quickly , so they were probably kicking themselves Like the best thing is probably you could say big mistake , big . Because , you went from a 2.5 to a 4.0 , and not that many . How many years did it take you to go 2.5 to 4.0 ? Six .
CarolynIt was six . I think it was six , that's pretty good .
ErinThey just had no idea how good you were going to get . But did it motivate you ? Maybe ? Or you just didn't know it , Because that would motivate me . I would be like I'm taking every lesson . I would be so competitive if I got cut that it would make me better .
CarolynNo , I think the captain was correct . I was pretty terrible , so it wasn't really a motivation . And then someone else just asked me to be on a singles team and I realized I really enjoyed it and really enjoyed the people and everything like that . But I definitely started off getting cut without even realizing it . So for anyone listening . If you get cut from your first team , do not give up , Right .
ErinDream big . People dream big . So I didn't have that experience that I know of . But I was on a team that we were going to states and I remember them wanting and there was to . They were wanting to all meet and do a team practice . But it really wasn't just a team practice . The captains were looking at who they should put on court one and court two and court three . I think it was a combo state . So maybe there was like three doubles because there was no singles at the time . So I'm sure it was a combo situation .
ErinAnd I remember my doubles partner and I , who were typically doubles one , were playing against the women who were typically doubles two and they were making bad line calls , my own teammates . I was shocked Like I did not want to play another season with them . They're lovely people now but we were so competitive at 2 five that I was like my own teammates are cheating , making bad line calls and to so they could get on , you know , doubles one , which now is probably not the case at all , because sometimes that doubles one spot is too much pressure anyway at states . But I remember leaving that practice thinking I cannot believe that we just did this like it was a team practice . But it remember leaving that practice thinking I cannot believe that we just did this Like it was a team practice .
ErinBut it was really like for who was ? It was like challenge matches , like who was going to play at what on what court at States , and I was like I can't believe we're being competitive with our own teammates . Like this is crazy . But that's two , five tennis for you . The competition makes people nuts . It does .
CarolynIt does , and I remember I don't know if my husband's even going to allow me to put this on here , but I'm going to tell it anyway . So he tried out for a team that was a level up , so I think it was a four or five team that he was asked . So it was really interesting how it happened . It was where you know how it is , where people , like a friend of a friend , asks you what can you play on this team ? And that's how it happened . And so my husband thought he was being asked to be on the team , but he wasn't . He wasn't being asked to be on the team . I think he was being asked to try out for the team .
CarolynSo the captain contacts him and says do you want to meet and hit ? Yes , and my husband and I were laughing because we were like this is totally a tryout . And he gets there and the guy that's the captain is probably in his 20s and he takes out a ball hopper full of balls and then they go to opposite sides . You know they introduce themselves . They go to the opposite sides of the court and he starts feeding my husband balls to hit of the court and he starts feeding my husband balls to hit . And then I guess he passed that part of the tryout because after he started to stop feeding the balls they decided to play a match . But my husband did say he was like is he going to feed me balls for the next hour and a ?
Erinhalf Like he's a pro and this is a clinic .
CarolynYes . That's so crazy so luckily Mike did make that team . But that was definitely a tryout because afterwards he said you know you're on the team .
ErinDid he get an offer right there ? Did he get a rose ? He was presented a rose right there and there .
CarolynRight , right . I think he got the offer too , to play singles only . You know how those offers are , so I get those offers a lot . We would love you to be on this team .
ErinWe will be playing singles , but we need a warm body on a singles court and you're our girl , right , exactly , exactly . That's so funny . I didn't think guys I could see girls doing that , but I think we'd be a little more like secretive about it . But I thought guys were just straight up like hey , dude , this is a tryout , this is what we're going to do , but the fact that it was , I mean that sounds so awkward . If I showed up , could you imagine , as a woman showing up and having another like a captain being like all right . So we're going to start the first 30 minutes I Showing up and having another like a captain being like all right . So we're going to start the first 30 minutes . I'm going to feed balls and you're going to work on Like if you paid a pro to do that , and you're like this is a lesson , but not like okay , I'm going to check out your forehand and your backhand , and that's so crazy .
CarolynYes , yes , what would you ? Do Erin , if someone did that . Someone asked you to be on a team and you were going to hit with the captain and they started feeding you balls from a hopper .
ErinI have no idea what I would do . I would probably go through with it Like Mike did and think this is super awkward . I don't know . I'm surprised he didn't say what are we doing here ? They're usually much more straightforward . We're like okay , this is weird , but I'll go along with it . Yeah , I don't know what would you do ?
CarolynI would hit the balls . I mean , I would love it if someone would feed me balls .
ErinAnd not pay them . Is this a free lesson ? Yes , exactly , that's crazy . Have you heard of any other , anyone else having tryouts ? I'm sure teams do it all the time I have heard . I did hear from someone recently that really did say , like you should do challenge matches , like take your best , you know , take your best deuce and add players and play them against your you know second team or whatever . And I'm like do you know that this is a woman's rec team ? Like this is not going to go over . Well , right .
CarolynYeah .
ErinIt's like , okay , we're gonna . I mean , they do that for juniors all the time or for JTT . They always like they always and I think high school and college they always rank you on a court based on but we don't do that in adult rec tennis . Maybe we should , maybe we should , maybe we should start implementing new things , carolyn .
CarolynThat's right , but be very clear from the beginning this is a tryout , yes , or this is to put you in what order we think for a match , and I think again , if people's expectations are met , this is what's going to happen .
I think what was so shocking for Mike is just he didn't realize it was a tryout till he was in the tryout . Right , well , same with you , well , except you were , yours was a little less obvious that it was a tryout . So did the team that you didn't make ? Was that like a they're trying to build ? Was that was a two five team ? They're trying to build like a super two five team to go to states and beyond , or what was do you ? You have any idea ? Or were they just looking for people and you just didn't make the cut ? You weren't the people they were looking for .
CarolynYeah , I think they were just looking for people and I was not very good , and so I did not make the cut .
ErinAnd Mike's was truly like we're building , like a super team , we're taking this as far as we can . I don't even think it was .
CarolynI think it was again the same story as far as we can . I don't even think it was . I think it was again the same sort of thing , that's worse .
ErinIt is that answer's worse .
ErinI mean because when you get to the four or five level , if you're having tryouts , you think I'm having people try out to be on like a super team and I'm like , because mostly guys don't like , I've found out my husband hasn't played . I think he played one season ever of league and doesn't play at all anymore . But he captained a team and literally guys are like I can't play tonight , let's just forfeit that court . And women are like that's ridiculous . We paid to be in this league and we should make it up at all costs . And guys are just like eh , whatever . So I'm surprised they would have tryouts for a team that they weren't trying to like build , you know , like a super team , to go on to like playoffs and states and maybe beyond .
CarolynYeah , it seems like a lot of effort . I think it was , you know , the captain deciding whether or not this person is good enough even to be on the team . I don't think it . Maybe it was to make a good team , but Mike's ? I don't know if he'll want me to say this , but Mike is not a four five , right ? Yeah , he's not a high level four five . So I think it was just whether or not the captain was willing to have this person on his team .
ErinDid he have any other four O's on that team ? Did the captain have any other 4-0s on that team ? I don't know if he did . I don't know if he did , so maybe it was like a level below .
CarolynCan you make it on ?
Erinthis team Right , so maybe that's the reason . Yeah , I was going to say if he had other ones , I hope that they had a tryout as well .
CarolynYes , well , but Mike has tried out for a super team before and he didn't make it . And yeah , he probably should be on this podcast right now . He's probably going to be like what are you talking about ? But he thought again that it was where he was being invited to be on a super team . But it was a tri-level team and he then shows up for a tryout for it .
CarolynBut he said very honestly like he wasn't . You know , with try level , they only take four at that level and the other people that were with him trying out were self rates and appeals and Mike was very honest like they were better than him and so they should make it . But again , it was one of these things like let's make everything clear , this is a tryout , like everybody should be just very honest . When I go to try out for my 2-5 team , you are trying out tonight , so you will get like I didn't know I was trying out . I was like , oh , I made some new friends and then all of a sudden I get a message saying you did not make , don't have friends .
ErinNot only are you not on our team , we are not going to be your friend .
CarolynI think I think the text actually said you know that I could come to practice when people couldn't make it Right . You're letting me know I was a sell in .
ErinYou were sub . Yeah , you were sub Well nowadays , you know when , like if Mike thought , or if you thought , or if I thought you know that we were going to be , like invited onto a team , like someone has contacted us and said , hey , you know , come out and hit tonight . You know I have this team , I would I guess you should watch the language . Like I'm offering , like I have a spot for you on the team , but let's hit to make sure . Or like I would just be like can you send me the team ?
Carolynnumber . I'm not stepping foot on the court until you give me that team number .
ErinIf they say no , then you know it's a trial . Maybe that's there , there you go . Here we solve the problem . If somebody asks you to play tennis because they have a team that they're putting together , but they say , come out and meet me to hit first , and you say , can I have the team number so I can get registered , and they say no , not yet . No , you are going for a tryout . Yes , that's right , there we go .
CarolynPlease let us know if you've ever had to try out for an adult recreational team and if you knew it was a tryout , you can message us on our website , which is SecondServePodcastcom . Thanks so much for listening and hope to see you on the courts soon .