The Career Foundation: Future at Work

Future Jobs for Youth: Technology, Finance & Healthcare

April 08, 2021 The Career Foundation Season 1 Episode 9
The Career Foundation: Future at Work
Future Jobs for Youth: Technology, Finance & Healthcare
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The Career Foundation: Future at Work
Future Jobs for Youth: Technology, Finance & Healthcare
Apr 08, 2021 Season 1 Episode 9
The Career Foundation

This three-part episode looks at growing career opportunities for youth—particularly youth that do not have post-secondary education. We speak with three youth leaders who have done extensive research on up-and-coming, promising career paths that youth can access with the right tools and resources. Our panelists include Kamilah Ebrahim, Saad Rasool, and Ben Williams, each of whom provide some great advice to youth just starting out in their careers. 

We discuss our youth-led research project called, “YouthFutures,” which was developed in partnership with Canadian Council for Youth Prosperity. We explore labour market trends and their impact on youth, as well as tips on how to break into top sectors including Technology, Finance and Healthcare. 

Some questions we address include: 

  1. How can we encourage more women to enter the Technology sector? 
  2. How can a young worker advance their career in Canada’s competitive Finance sector? 
  3. What are some examples of free or low-cost training programs in Technology, Finance and Healthcare? 
  4. How can youth overcome the apprehension to enter these competitive industries? 
  5. How can youth access less “traditional-sounding” roles in Healthcare, such as Dietary Aide or Medical Office Administrator? 

We also explore specific career paths and how to enter them, including: 

  • Data Scientist
  • UX/UI 
  • Cloud Computing 
  • Call Centre Specialist 
  • Bank Teller
  • Tax Preparation Specialist
  • Dietary Aide
  • Personal Support Worker 
  • Medical Office Administrator 

Resources: 

 

Show Notes Transcript

This three-part episode looks at growing career opportunities for youth—particularly youth that do not have post-secondary education. We speak with three youth leaders who have done extensive research on up-and-coming, promising career paths that youth can access with the right tools and resources. Our panelists include Kamilah Ebrahim, Saad Rasool, and Ben Williams, each of whom provide some great advice to youth just starting out in their careers. 

We discuss our youth-led research project called, “YouthFutures,” which was developed in partnership with Canadian Council for Youth Prosperity. We explore labour market trends and their impact on youth, as well as tips on how to break into top sectors including Technology, Finance and Healthcare. 

Some questions we address include: 

  1. How can we encourage more women to enter the Technology sector? 
  2. How can a young worker advance their career in Canada’s competitive Finance sector? 
  3. What are some examples of free or low-cost training programs in Technology, Finance and Healthcare? 
  4. How can youth overcome the apprehension to enter these competitive industries? 
  5. How can youth access less “traditional-sounding” roles in Healthcare, such as Dietary Aide or Medical Office Administrator? 

We also explore specific career paths and how to enter them, including: 

  • Data Scientist
  • UX/UI 
  • Cloud Computing 
  • Call Centre Specialist 
  • Bank Teller
  • Tax Preparation Specialist
  • Dietary Aide
  • Personal Support Worker 
  • Medical Office Administrator 

Resources: 

 

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This is the career foundations future at work podcast and webinar series. Each episode, we explore critical topics affecting the workforce and workplace with a key focus on new and emerging trends across high growth industries. Whether we're discussing the skilled trades, youth wellness and education, or supports for persons with disabilities, you'll learn about some great resources to help you, or someone you know, navigate current and future careers. You can visit us at careerfoundation.com to learn about all of our programmes and services. Thanks for listening.

Unknown Speaker  0:38  
All right, welcome back, everyone to The Career Foundation's future at work podcast and webinar series. We're so happy to have you. If it's the first time you're joining us, we are excited to take you on this journey on all things employment. Today, we're kicking off a three part series, looking at growing opportunities for youth, especially youth who don't have their post secondary degrees. There are opportunities out there for you, and we want to make sure that you know about them. Back in November, especially as we were going through COVID, we joined forces with the Canadian Council for youth prosperity, to look at what was happening to the labour market, and how that was impacting youth. Especially after the hits of that retail sector, the service sector hospitality sector got because of COVID. And that's really where a lot of youth worked. And so we were hearing from our young people that they don't know where to look right now. And especially because they don't have degrees, those who didn't have degrees, felt like there were no opportunities for them. So it really prompted us looking at this a bit closer. And we started a research project called youth futures. We wanted to look at at least the three top sectors, and how young people can break into those sectors. those sectors that we looked at were tech, health and finance. And today, we're joined by our first thought leader, Kamilah to walk us through the research. And what she found in that Kamilah, how are you?

Unknown Speaker  2:31  
I'm good. Thank you so much for having me.

Unknown Speaker  2:34  
I am so thrilled to have this conversation with you. Tell us a little bit about yourself and the project that you're working on. 

Unknown Speaker  2:41  
So my name is Kamilah, I am a master's student at the University of Toronto. And I study human centred data science, which is a big mouthful. Essentially what it is, is it's about understanding how technology can be used for human purposes. So thinking through things like we have this complex vaccination problem that we have to solve, what are the technologies that can help us do that? So for me personally, having the human side of technology be incorporated into what I do was always really important. And yeah, so the project that I'm working on with youth, the youth futures project, is specifically trying to understand the barriers that youth and especially youth who come from diverse backgrounds, are have when trying to consider career pathways into the technology industry. So what do you know and not know about technology? What do we need to make more clear, maybe what do we need to work with employers so that they can make better pathways to build a more inclusive tech ecosystem? So it's been a really cool project. So far, I've definitely learned a lot they know about technology, the technology industry from sort of like a hiring perspective in the labour market perspective. But yeah, it's been really fun so far.

Unknown Speaker  3:59  
Fantastic. So you have lots of information to share with us. But the tech sector feels a little bit scary at times. But it is an important sector. Why is it important for you to consider careers in tech?

Unknown Speaker  4:19  
I think yeah, I think the like scary piece happens like sort of for folks who are not coming in from like a traditional background. So I myself, I started off in economics. And I did a lot of policy work in throughout my undergraduate degree. And I didn't think I would ever end up in tech, like if you asked me three years ago, like what is data science, I wouldn't have been able to tell you. But I think that like yes, it's scary when you're starting off, but it's also a really cool thing to know about tech is that people come from all sorts of different backgrounds. So people come into the technology industry with degrees people come into the technology with only work experience people have self taught themselves using free resources online. And I think that like diversity and technology is kind of unique to the sector, because you truly can enter the sector from so many different avenues. And I think that that is probably the first thing that I would say that that's really important for youth to know. Don't be scared, don't be intimidated, it is a little bit scary. But once you kind of overcome that hurdle, you'll you'll see, there's so many opportunities and possibilities. I think the other thing is, the technology industry is relatively new compared to like an industry like medicine, right or like business. So it's actually a really great time to be in tech, because you have the opportunity to shape the industry. So if as diverse youth or youth of colour or women who want to enter technology, we still have the opportunity to shape the industry and make the industry what we want it to be. Right. So that's not to say that there aren't challenges in doing that, and that there isn't a host of things that you know, you'll have to learn and push through. But I think maybe I'm biassed, but I think that there's a lot of room to do really cool things in tech.

Unknown Speaker  6:16  
Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. And young people already have an advantage. I mean, we're kind of bored, we use kind of born into technology in a way like, some are natives to it. And some really learned quite young. And so things like you would really pick up tools and techniques much easier than older cohorts would. And so that's the advantage for young people. But tech is also interesting in my mind, because when we think about the sector, where other sectors are sort of independent, right, like, you know, like health, for example, what we're finding is technology is running through all sectors, I'm connecting all of the sectors. And so no matter where you hope to look for work, maybe you're passionate about, you know, medicine, you're passionate about finance, you're passionate about trades. We're seeing technology impacting all of those sectors. And so it's really important to hone in on that area, because it will impact all of the areas, all of the jobs that are coming in the future. And it offers great opportunities to do that.

Unknown Speaker  7:30  
Yeah, I think I think yeah, that's another really cool thing about tech is like state, like you said, say you're passionate about medicine, you can do like health tech, right. So my sister is actually in human resources. She loves being around people, she loves talking to people, she likes that, like she's very personable. And her like next thing that she kind of wants to consider is like the tech side of HR. So maybe she'll start recruiting for people who are in tech, like data scientists or engineers, where, you know, developers, whatever it is. So it's really cool. Because she's in human resources, like her job is to talk to people and go out and meet people. It's not anything like what I do, which is just sit at a computer. But she's still finding a way to incorporate, like the tech ecosystem into her career. So it's really, really a diverse and like, it has very long arms like long, long tentacles kind of in everything. But like you said, that's I think that's a really cool thing, because you can merge it with any of your interests. I think another thing that people think about tech is that it's very analytical, and it's very sort of by the book, and black and white, which is true. But I also think that there's some career opportunities in tech that are overlooked, that allow you to be really creative, right? So for example, designing products or designing a website or designing interfaces to getting to choose like the colours that are used in the way that it's supposed to flow and all those types of things, you actually really do, you get to build creative muscles and flex them in different jobs. And so I think like, that's another misconception that people sometimes have, which is important to like, think through. Mm hmm.

Unknown Speaker  9:05  
And so I know that part of your project was to develop a report and hone in on three areas that young people can enter into the sector. Tell us a little bit about that. You know, like you're saying people think it's really technical. And you were kind of touching on some product design. Tell us a little bit more about those, those sectors that you looked at the jobs that you looked at, and how people young people can enter into the field, for sure. So

Unknown Speaker  9:32  
the first one that I looked at was what I meant, so data science and data analytics. So like I said, because it's a newer industry, if there's no sort of formalised definition yet, so data scientists could do a whole host of things. But essentially, what a data scientist does is it gathers and collects data and then tries to make meaningful insights from it. And I think like all the three careers that I looked at, there's so many resources online. That you can really dig into and get started. Something that you can learn part time and you can pick it up. The other thing is that it's very iterative. So once you start trying, you might not get it right away, but it's just the kind of thing that you have to try and keep doing. And I tell people all the time, I'm like, the one way to know if you're gonna like it is to just try it, and not be afraid to fail and kind of get your hands dirty. So I was the first one that was data science. The second one was UX and UI design. So those are sort of what I was speaking about earlier, those are folks who would design the products that you use. So for example, when I open up my Instagram app, which I do many times a day, you see the icons, you see the pictures, you see the menu bar, so somebody had to design what that initial screen was going to look like, right. So be the job of somebody who is in product design, you could also do something in terms of when I click on this button, it should go to this frame. So it's very thinking through how your product works, that it's user friendly. And again, like there's a whole host of online resources that will teach you to do these things, some are paid, some are free. But in my experience, like the best designers are those who are just passionate about design, and are open and are willing to learn and can build a project project from scratch, right? So like data science, very iterative, very much just like trying and doing. And the last career path that I looked into was cloud computing. And some of you I think we hear a lot about like, oh, there's like things on the cloud, we really don't know what that is. But essentially, it's a strategy or a technique that you would learn to use cloud computing as a tool. So a cloud computing course, for example, would teach you the different infrastructures, and would give you the skills to be able to either build cloud computing networks, or, or manage one that's already there. And I know that sounds a little bit like scary and like, What is that, like? Where is this cloud? But I think, again, like it's one of those things that once you start, and once you really like get the ball rolling with it, you'll you'll understand more about how it works. And I think cloud computing is proud of the three is probably the one with the least amount of online resources. But that's because it's also one of the newer ones. But I think we're again, like gonna see it picking up I think so many industries are moving on to the cloud. So room for growth, I think in each of these industries, and maybe especially in cloud is going to be huge. So yeah, I personally think it's a really exciting time to get into tech.

Unknown Speaker  12:34  
Oh my gosh, there's so many things. So many things I want to say about those things. So let's go back to the first one data science, right. Yeah. And so when we think about that, what are the kinds of job titles that come to mind?

Unknown Speaker  12:56  
Yeah, so I'm a data scientist, data analyst, data engineer, Data Manager. So it's, it's hard because there isn't like a formalised definition of what you can do. But as a data scientist, you'll typically learn a couple programming languages. So you might learn Python, or you might learn SQL, or you might learn R. And those are like interchangeable skills that you can use when you're doing data science, or data analytics, or data engineering. They're all a little bit like nuanced in their own ways. But really, I think like getting into data science is about like mastering those those skills, and then moving through, like you would have skills that would allow you to do a number of different job titles, if that makes sense.

Unknown Speaker  13:43  
Yeah, what that reminds me of is, you know, when I first started my career as a data entry person, right, the it wasn't just entering data out that would bore me to death. But people already doing these, these jobs and don't recognise the the parallel or sort of the link into to higher level thinking about how what that data, what's the story that data is telling us? Right? And how does that inform decisions about, you know, decisions that companies make about how we interact with our customers. So when we break down data engineering, or you know, data scientists, really it is using data to make decisions in everyday business, right? nothing scary about that.

Unknown Speaker  14:37  
Think like, data science, like you truly can come to it from so many different backgrounds. Like you do need quantitative skills, and you do need some programming skills to become a functional data scientists. But those are not things that like you can't acquire if you just give it enough time and enough like patience and you kind of persevere through it. But yeah, I think Sometimes the titles are misleading, sometimes it's scary. But when you actually do them, you're like, well, I could totally do this.

Unknown Speaker  15:06  
There is a programme that. So you know, you don't have to have Python to be working in data. We are starting a programme, as we speak, really starting starting it up trying to transition women who were affected by layoffs in the service sector to move into Customer Success roles. Right. And, and what that is really is about the data. And what's the data telling you about the customer retention? Right, right? And then how do you work with that customer to ensure that you keep them, you know, as a customer. And so that's sort of a pathway into the tech sector. And then you can grow from there. Exactly, right. And there are all these awesome programmes like lighthouse labs that do data analytics training. There's the boot camps, let's get into UX. Yeah, this boot camps that do UX training, and they're pretty, they're pretty quick. They're pretty intensive. And online, there are a lot of great resources. Of course, Sarah is a great one that people could look at,

Unknown Speaker  16:18  
or even look at, like LinkedIn learning, or if you find folk who, you think that they're doing really cool things, and they post their portfolios on LinkedIn, I think that that's a really, really good way to learn is just seeing like, okay, like, what are other people doing? Like, how did they build their portfolio? What, what courses today did they take? And I think people would be surprised at how like open folks are to sharing their experiences. So LinkedIn, like just networking people with people on LinkedIn has been really helpful for me, especially during COVID when you're not meeting people all the time, right? So if you are ever curious about like, well, this person's in UX design at x company, I wonder what they actually do on their day to day, I think a great way is to just like reach out and be like, Hey, I'm a student, or I'm looking to get into this industry, or I don't really know anything about the industry. But I'm kind of curious. And I think like, that's also a really, really great way to to learn to find new programmes to find your resources. Yeah, it's been really helpful for me.

Unknown Speaker  17:17  
Yeah. And I really like the thing about UX when, you know, we have so many young people doing freelancing and gig on website design and design and, and different things. And really, when you think about it, it's really it's, it's it's technology second user first, right? It's about the customer experience. So if you were designing something for young people, what would make sense for a young person in the way they typically use technology? And then we'll look at how do you enable that experience through technology?

Unknown Speaker  17:55  
Absolutely, absolutely. I think like, yeah, that's, that's the thing is that like to make good technology, you have to understand your users, right? So you have to understand, who am I designing for? What do these people need? And that's why I think like, there's such a big need to have a diverse tech sector, because you have to understand a diverse set of experiences to build technologies that are going to work for a diverse set of people, right. So if we want to design technology that would be friendly to a person with a disability, then we have to have a person with a disability on our team to help us inform what that experience. Right,

Unknown Speaker  18:30  
right. That's right. And and it's not necessarily a fully technical job. Exactly. Right. It's understanding the user case, the product knowledge, and then sort of building the technology. And then you can build yourself into the technology like the hardcore staff.

Unknown Speaker  18:50  
Exactly. I think like tech skills can always be acquired, but that like soft understanding of people, and of just like, even just work ethic, and perseverance will take you so far.

Unknown Speaker  19:01  
Yeah, absolutely. And so when we talk about cloud, I am super excited about that one. Because I mean, what COVID did was showed us that we needed to become room remote workers, we had to transition to home if we could have and many companies who did that are working on the cloud. Right? So how do we keep information safe? How do we enable people to work remotely, those things are really important. So that is a massive market, right right now, and I had, if our listeners remember, had fired from the AWS team speak to us about cloud practitioner training that we provide on our website for free. That is something that people could just go to career foundation comm resources and you will see the AWS training there and You'll be able to access that for free, you can get certified. And it'd be number of jobs that are available in cloud computing. And once you have that certification, Oh, my gosh, I've heard that people sort of hunt, hunt you down on LinkedIn to find you, if you have that. 

Unknown Speaker  20:17  
Yeah, for sure. And I think like, especially now, like you said, like everybody had to, or not everybody, but a lot of companies had to move online relatively quickly. They're looking for people to fill a need, right? And I personally don't think that that needs gonna go just like evaporate once it's over. I think it's going to, if anything, have built an established foundation to keep growing. And yeah, so I think like, like, even just companies who, for example, stores who had, you know, a large in person presence and couldn't do that everybody had to shift online, right. So a lot of us are buying our, our goods online now as much as we can. So just thinking through, like, the way that those industries are going to build and grow. And they're going to have the need for professionals who understand the structures, unless you said, it's one of those things, that's, that's really cool. Because you can find a free resource and at least like different chosen, get, get your hands a little bit dirty, at least understand if you like it, and then you are confident that the industry that you're getting into is going to grow over time, which is a really great place to be. Yeah, absolutely.

Unknown Speaker  21:20  
So when we go when we look at the tech space, we often hear that women, there's a lack of women in that tech space is a lack of diverse talent in the tech space. Right. So we've long learned that, what tends to, do you find that that's changing? Do you find that that we're becoming more diverse in the tech space?

Unknown Speaker  21:46  
I would hope so. I think, I think we're starting to realise that the way that not only tech, but society generally has treated women and girls has not been conducive to, to establishing a, like an an equal tech ecosystem, right? So for example, as young as like Elementary School in high school, girls are not encouraged as much to like, try and to fail, right? Like, we have studies that tell us that, like, we're boys are able to are more comfortable trying something and then like they fail, and then they're like, okay, girls are not conditioned, uh, no, in a way, like, especially like through school system to try something and then to fail and to try again, right? So, tech being the way that it is, it's extremely iterative, like, everybody fails, like you will, like everybody feels like, that's just what it is, you have to try it, it's not gonna work, you're gonna try it again. It's not gonna work again, eventually, you're going to get it though, right? And so I think like, we're having a reckoning now of like, well, we actually need to treat girls the same way that we treat boys, so that they're comfortable working in an environment that is iterative, right? That requires multiple trials and errors. It's the same thing. Like we don't, we don't always encourage girls to go into math, right? We maybe like there's a higher percentage of girls who go into, like arts or science or whatever it is. And I think people are realising that now and are realising like, we actually again, like need diverse talent in tech to build good tech. So I would hope that that's changing, I would really like to see, I think we are probably on the cusp of a big change, I hope. And that's why I tell people like, Don't let the lack of diversity that we see a lot of the time because it is a reality discourage you. Because the more that we are in these spaces, and encouraging each other and supporting each other, the better, we can grow, and we can establish what we want to build. Another thing I think is really cool. that's starting to I'm starting to see especially like in the Toronto ecosystem is a lot of women who are starting their own startups. So they're basically saying like, well, I can actually do my own thing, right. And that's really cool, too. Because if you have a really good idea, and you want to start a startup, there's a tonne of funding for that, too, right? There's a tonne of resources for that, too. So there's opportunities to be entrepreneurial, and there's opportunities to build something of your own. And I think that that is really encouraging. And I really do hope that in the next like, five to 10 years, we're gonna have we're gonna have a different tech space than we have now.

Unknown Speaker  24:22  
And when you talk about entrepreneurial young people have that sort of built in like, we see them everyone has a side hustle. Yeah, that's because they're entrepreneurial and can build these things out. That's, that's fantastic. Is there and so we are also hearing from employers on our advisory councils that they are really interested in, in creating more equitable spaces in tech, but also across sectors. Tech has always seeming to me to say we can design for people we don't understand how So and so now they're, you know, making sure that they have those voices at the table, or at least there's improvement in that area. Yeah, this is great. This is great, great discussion, I want to continue by just asking you, you know, this information can be overwhelming. And what we're trying to do in the report, is really break it down into specific nuggets of information that people can take away. Give us one piece of advice, you would give a young person out there who would love to work in tech, but not sure where to start?

Unknown Speaker  25:39  
I think, well, I'm gonna say the career Foundation's website is a good place to start. But also, just don't be afraid to ask questions when you don't understand something. because keep in mind, everybody who ever started in tech, didn't know what they were doing at some point or had no idea, right? Like, it's a really new field. So people who have been in it for 10 years, at some point, they started not knowing anything about it, right. So I think like, just keeping that in mind and not being afraid to ask questions and finding spaces that are going to be open to questions and that kind of thing. So for example, organisations like career foundations, or I mentioned LinkedIn before, right? Just I think, put yourself out there, ask questions, and don't be afraid to try is probably my biggest advice, because I know what it was like, for me when I first started very, like I was kind of like, should I ask this? Like, I'm not going to know, but you're never going to know until you ask. Right? So I think

Unknown Speaker  26:38  
I really liked that about tech. Because, you know, I'll share with you that my partner's dad actually wrote books, he he's a, he's a computer guy. And he wrote books, in terms of the really old programmes. And you know, it's when I, when I look at them, I feel really proud for them, I think, Oh, my gosh, how much of that is applicable now. And so oftentimes, when, in tech, when we develop something, we can grow from there, but things are changing so rapidly, things are new, and the newness of text, encourage people to be creative, right? Making mistakes is part of the job unlike anywhere else, because it's so valuable to make a mistake, because it tells us why this will not work and not a good thing to pursue. Exactly. But there might be a nugget that's worthwhile taking away and building on.

Unknown Speaker  27:36  
And the other thing, sorry, just the other thing about tech that I think you'll find if you start working in tech, is the tech community is so big that like, if you have a question, probably somebody had that same question before. And there's probably like an online forum that you can find. So even like programmers who have been programming for 10 years, or 20 years, or whatever it is, they still have questions, and they still probably Google the answer to their questions. Right, right. Oh, yeah. It's really a space that like, if you feel like you don't know what you're doing, that's okay. Because probably everyone feels

Unknown Speaker  28:09  
like it's about this all day. That I think you're going to wrap up now. Thank you so much, Kamilah, for sharing your findings with us. I hope it gives young people hope. Because the one thing that we wanted to do here was to show pathways to the future. Yes, COVID did a lot of damage to the labour market and to to youth jobs. Yeah, absolutely. And so that's why we need to inform ourselves about the opportunities to the future, because there are many, and in different sectors. So stay tuned for part two on our series, when we talk finance and how people can break in to that sector. Thanks. 

Unknown Speaker  28:55  
Well, welcome back everyone to the career foundations future at work podcast and webinar series, as we jump into part two of our future, our youth futures project, as we look at finance. So we're joined now by Saad Rasool, our thought leader who looked into how does young people enter the finance sector. Welcome Saad.

Unknown Speaker  29:19  
Thanks a lot for giving me the opportunity to talk to the youth and yourself. It has been a great journey for me to be part of this great team and to find things in the finance sector. It is a growing time to be in the finance sector.

Unknown Speaker  29:33  
Yeah, we're excited about this project. But before we get into finance, I want to know a little bit about you. Tell us first a little bit about you and then tell us about the youth futures project.

Unknown Speaker  29:46  
Okay. So I'm a recent immigrant to Canada. It was Canada welcomed me as a newcomer in 2019. It has been a great journey since then. It was first winter and winter was tough coming from a country from a city, which was like, plus 50 degrees most of the time seeing my first snow, so it was a magical journey which started. But as you would know, as a newcomer, there are some struggles involved. So I was lucky enough, I had a background in accounting and finance. And when I came here, it was, as you know, they're like the, when you come to a new place, you build a new home, the foundation is most important, and building the foundation. That's what requires the most time after that the structure is easy. So that's how I focus on myself, like, I didn't look back and I took all the opportunities that I got. So be it working at a restaurant doing some driving, doing something. So that's where I started, I thought I want to get how Canada is I want to experience their people, I want to experience the culture. So that's how my journey started. And I have a background in accounting, so I build upon doing CPA, then I started focusing on finance and CFA, but all of these were too costly and too expensive to begin with. I was lucky enough, I got a scholarship in for an MBA programme for a university based in Montreal. And that gave me some hope that gave me some idea in order to where I find myself in this place. Then starting January onwards, I was able to help small businesses, I worked with corporations, I work with small businesses, giving them my skill set, helping them out and setting, seeing how they are able to raise finances, and then COVID it. So in COVID, where I was going to start my journey and take kick off, it was a bit of a bumper in the start. But then I realised like, because of working from home, it gives you a lot of time to talk to you to understand what is going on in the market, you can help a lot of people because somebody needs business plan, somebody just need someone to talk to in terms of how to develop their career. So I started working with different organisations. And I started teaching people like first I learned myself how finance and our accounting works in Canada. And I started helping people in their payroll in their financial literacy in tax literacy. So I realised at that point that there are so many young people all around us. And they need that support, because neither the school nor the universities or anywhere else, they are getting this kind of training. And that's where I started helping them out, I worked on multiple projects with different youth. And that led me to start working in this particular project, which was youth future project that came as a blessing at the time. So I was going through very tough time, at the time when this project came like I got COVID at the time. So it was a very journey was very struggle for land like it was being alone in this country. And managing everything was very difficult. But this project gave me hope. And with this with the support of the team members, like it felt like a family. And from there, I was able to start this journey on looking at the finance sector, I was already connecting with all so many youths over the entire year, learning what their fears were about this industry, what they want to know about finance. And at the same time, there were so many people who made a lot of money in a short span of time, because of you know, real estate boom or trading on forex, or you know, stocks, everybody had that some extra cash lying, and they were just trying to try their luck and see how it works. So people were fascinated by finance, but they wanted to understand how it works, how everything come into play. And my one story that I will say like finance very triggered me to focus more on this was when I was talking to a there was a group known as empower, which focused on giving power to the woman. And when I was talking to them, some of them were married, and they were like our husband manage our finances, and we know nothing about it. And then there was young girls, we're trying to see how this all works. But they were because of biases and so many things, there was so much to it that then I realised that it is very important. Nobody no matter which profession you are, from which degree you are following which background you have. It's very important to look into finance Be it as professionally or personally because it plays a critical role on that. So that's where the journey of youth future. And I started focusing on finance. 

Unknown Speaker  34:04  
Yes, certainly you've overcome a lot. No matter how safe you tried to be. There's always that risk. So we have to be careful. But you you demonstrated a lot of resilience there just in your mindset alone. And so we're grateful that you're okay. But that resiliency is so important for young people right now, especially when we look at futures. future careers. Yes, people sort of plan out their career. Why do you think that? Finance is a good career for young people in the future.

Unknown Speaker  34:41  
So finance is having a lot of transition as you would see all other sectors, but finance right now is attracting a lot of young people, both in terms of retail investing and otherwise. So right now people in the past used to think of finances very narrow path where people only wear suits and you know their wealth. As we're hanging out and thinking those things, and you have to be a lot of degrees and a lot of things that you have to plan out, and then only you can enter this, but right now, there has so many divisions within the finance sector, majorly because of the innovation of technology. So that there are so many aspects of thing and there is so much data. So some, but they need experts in all fields. So in the past, you need to be like jack of all trades or than master of one. But now you can be a master of Excel, you can be master of Salesforce, you can be master of cryptocurrency, like there is so much innovation going on, that they need the junk blood in the past, it was all about experience, it was all about degrees, it was all about going to fancy schools. But now because the finance market has grown and being in Canada and Toronto, especially Toronto is the financial hub. And you will see all around, like wherever you go, you will see a bank, you will see an insurance company, you will see something. But now, what has been fascinating, like even if you're a small, like if you're an individual, you can do payroll, you can do bookkeeping, there's so many roles. Now that has been because everybody gets to specialise in their own way. And the beauty of Canada is that they have small certification, they have small volunteer opportunities from where you can learn these technical skills, and then apply them. So whatever appeals to you, if you're a technology buff, you want like software as you like coding you like numbers. So there is something for anyone who is in the sector. So from assistance from call centres, from tellers to technology to a new thing. So they want the because we are the new generation, we are going to use these things. So even when I go to any branch, you know, just for basic thing, the financial advisor sitting with me would ask me, What would you like us to do? Like what type of opportunities would you see in a debit card or a credit card, they weren't our minds right now because that the old generation is going from cash and they were used to their style going into the branch. But new generation is all about phones, we are stuck on our phones all day long. So they want to know what type of experience you can they can offer. So that is something. So even if you don't have the right financial background, or like you know, the C degrees, there is still a way to do marketing, there is still so much to do. And the sector is so so many jobs out there, like they're constantly hiring even, I would like to share that I was talking to people in finance. And it was one of the growing sector, even during pandemic, and people were diverse people had money, they wanted investors to find a way to invest them. And it was growing like be at accounting be at finance, because COVID had so many benefits. So now people wanted to know how to apply for them. And those things like canada.ca is a website, which has all the information you can learn. So you can spend hours over there government has developed the guides, but people are willing to pay you so much for doing those simple tasks, which just like you can do them on your own.

Unknown Speaker  37:46  
So you so it sounds like this is a booming area and and they're actively looking for young people. But like you said, like when when young people or any anyone thinks about finance, they think about dark suits, on Bay Street and on Wall Street really inaccessible jobs. And I know that you did your research around a few specific areas that young people can access, tell us about those careers, and the entry points for you.

Unknown Speaker  38:17  
So in order to do something great, as I mentioned, like foundation is very important to build a building. So same is the thing, like we don't have to look at the top of the financier, that is the dream, but we have to start somewhere so we can build a journey towards that level. So it's a ladder approach is a step up approach. So my focus was like in three different roles, which people think that they are just like dead end roles where you start and that's the end. But when I explored that journey, I found out that there was so many prospects and so many doors that they opened. So there might seem like a basic role in the beginning or not something directly related to it, but it opens a lot of avenues. So the three rules I have been focusing on is the teller role in banks, then the call centre role and the tax preparation. So these three roles I picked them because of their understanding of them, they realise that we need certain kinds of skill set, but not necessarily we need the degrees or we need the certifications or you know, those expensive things that not everybody has the opportunity to do them or the time to do them. So these three rules were the one basic stepping stones for you. Like if you start your journey from here, it will open a lot of doors for the youth. So and being in the bank like every, every week I go or some when I visit. So I talked to the tellers and some are from high school some he didn't even go to high schools. But what so I'll start off with a teller journey like how it works. So in the teller I talked to them, like I've talked with a financial advisor, I talked with different roles. So they weren't immigrants. There were people who will drop out from schools to profit from universities. But what I what inspired me to work on that role was that people were saying that banks support us in terms of certifications. There are constant trainings 12 week training. Six weeks trainings, bank is there for us. And then there are promotions there are reward, there is constant support that you have. And then you become a part of that internal network where you have all the opportunities. So they said, like the branch manager sits with you, they want to understand where your journey wants to take you. They talk with each other, and they're so supportive that they will tell you, okay, our branch doesn't have that opportunity. But if you are willing to go to this particular price, this has an option, would you like to go. So that's the framework that you want to develop and, and I talked to immigrant, one of the immigration story with me, so he worked very hard throughout the year. And he was one of the lucky ones to get a trip to, I think, Bahamas or somewhere with a long the entire bank. And unfortunately, his visa had some issue, which he didn't know that he can only come once to Canada, he thought he had a multiple entry visa. And so when he was flying back, he was stuck, he couldn't come back. But he said like the bank, get him for the hotel, got their lawyers to help him out. He had to go back to his home country. So but the entire time the team was there to support him. So he was an immigrant. And like, sorry, a student he was and he had no part of Canadian system, nothing. And he was just a tailor. So you would feel would see his experience. He said like I am never gonna leave this bank, no matter how long it's going to take, because they were with me, providing them lawyers providing him tickets, providing him all the kind of support he needed. So the entire time they were there. Like, we were asking what can how can we help you out?

Unknown Speaker  41:30  
Incredible story, it sounds like, on one hand, that the the sector itself has so many opportunities. But on the other hand, it sounds like the culture that they're developing is really about taking care of their people developing their people. And that's a place that you want to be. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker  41:52  
So all these three roles that I'm defining it is like, yeah, the titles might be different. But that's the good part. Like when you get hired, they will give you training, then they will tell you, okay, this is the step, these are the certifications you need to do, you need to take time off, we will give you that time off, we will pay for those certifications. And these certifications is not like a bank requirement. It is as you know, Canadian banking system or finance sector is highly regulated, because it is actually dealing with people lives and the hard earned money. So you have to be very safe and secure in that regard. and Canada is all about safety and for its people. So that's why those certifications is not like the bank needs it. They know you have the talent, you have the knowledge that these are just a requirement by law. And they pay for them be at $500 $1,000 $2,000, they will pay for it. And they climb your ladder slowly and steady. And at every stepping stone they help you out to build up. And that's not the end like from teller roll, you can go to back offices, I was talking to one immigrant who started as a journey as teller. And now she is in charge and head of their back office department which handles the asset management side of that bank. So she told me like you don't stop, like she said, she did night classes, she did weekend classes, she did all that because bank was there to support them. And the good part about the education in Canada is that there is a lot of tax savings. So the government gives you a grant and then when you make money, there is a relief in terms of the education so you save on taxes, which he said with the government grant plus the tax saving my education costs was nothing. So that is how and the bank was there to support with the you know, book supplies or other things that they need if they have an exam. So they want to shift their schedule, that's what they had. Now talking if you would like to expand upon other areas as well, like, the salary ranges are good. So they might start at like $16 or so. But sky's the limit for them like it's depending on how hard you work how far you go. The call centres I have seen people get 60,070 $5,000 as well. So it depends how many hours you are trying to put in how much training you want to put in how much encouragement how much passion you show for that particular role. And the text is the same thing you might think like many people I have talked to they think Texas seasonal you know, they it comes once a year and that said like it's gone. No because text if you see like everything shouldn't be a narrow focus thing. So tax for individuals come around April, but what about corporate taxes? What about payroll which they are the every organisation needs someone to do payrolls and every month they every weekly, it can be twice a week, bi weekly, they have to remit money to the government and not many people know that they have to file defaults for each of us. And some people make mistake so you know, I was talking to one guy, he charges 250 dollars just for one T for amendment. And if you would read about how to do it you will be what is that money for so in tax also there are a lot of avenues for you. There are a lot of companies both in every company needs someone in tax. Then there are proper accounting firms. There are other firms and they have realised that you don't need those fancy degrees to do this because taxes is a very specialised field and it requires someone who enjoys numbers who enjoy talking to people. And you can do them and so there are texts or GST There is also all here around, there is something to do. And if you understand that system if you understand how the government works, then as you would know Evelyn's you would be writing a lot of grants, and it all require budgets, it all requires how you're going to use that budget. So if you understand how the government works, there are so much things that recently I started working with government of Canada, and that's what I found, like I get calls from charity. Okay, how can we get the base subsidy? How can we get the rent subsidy? Okay, we are new to this, we are not accountants, can you please guide us how to do the payroll system how to do these calculations? Okay, these are the grants, how can we get these grants. So once you if you really enjoy what you do, then that's like you can enjoy these roles. And building on these roles, making those connections making opening those doors for themselves. And taking the benefit, like the Government of Canada gives you one year paid off to do the education you want to do. It gives you a day off on the if you have some exams, and that's just paid leave. So and even on the day, like in terms of if you have any membership fees for those exams, or something like that, they finance that. So it's only that we think of these roles as like they are not anything. So other benefits aside, like, you know, the eyesight, the glasses, the dental, the all other benefits that come along with it, that saves you a lot of money, and the pension benefits, these are some of the things that you need to realise, yeah, because if you are coming from a place where you want to strive to this disguise, then you have to work extra hard, then you can say like I have to work only four hours a day or five hours a day or eight hours a day, then that is not something that because everybody is doing that, right. So if you want to excel that somebody who went to the university or went that they put in those hours, those years and those things. So now if you want to excel if you want to compete at that level, if you want to grow in any career, this is not only in finance. So you have to take those evening classes, you have to study in evening, you have to work on weekends, but it is like in the start of your career. So first few years, if you build that thing, then you can constantly grow. And I have talked to so many people like in teller or in call centre role in tax preparation role. Now they're at manager's level or senior executives or directors. Yeah, it is a journey of 15-20 years. But nothing is easy. In this world, nothing comes free. But if you strive for it, if you really want something bad, then you have to get the book for it.

Unknown Speaker  47:25  
Yeah, you share with us is like invaluable. Like, I can't, like I can't tell you how important that is for people to see, especially young people who have lost jobs in the service sector. And feeling oh my gosh, where else am I gonna look. And so what you're saying is look at Tech, look at finance, look at health. These are growing sectors that offer opportunities for young people. As we wrap this up, I want to ask you for your advice, one piece of advice, you would give a young person to start their career in finance.

Unknown Speaker  48:01  
I would say to the young person that I did this mistake as well that I was looking focused on the rules I was focused on, like the real estate banking, you know, big fancy words, which we see on social media on TV shows. So our problem of our youth or of our generation is our attention span is so short, and we are too focused on the things that we forget ourselves. So my focus is like no matter what challenges that come your way, what problems you face, no matter how many people tell you that you're not good enough for this role. If you really want it, if you really think you can do it, if you should have the courage in yourself. And if you're resistant, if you are persistent with that thing. And if you try hard enough, nobody can stop you. So I would say challenges will come that life is not going to be easy, things are going to get tough. And last year, if it has taught us anything, this is that we need to be prepared for any kind of thing. And we need to constantly adapt, if we are not adapt, like the basic beauty of our human nature is that we can adapt to any kind of situation. And that is something that I feel we are we as a human person, like we forgot change, we need to realise how there was you know, we were horse riding then cars game, no electric cars game. So constantly, things are changing. Our phones are changing, everything is changing. But we in our mind, we've stopped to change. We need to adapt ourselves, we think, Okay, this is a dead end. Now what to do, and we need to focus on solutions rather than the problems.

Unknown Speaker  49:26  
Oh, my gosh, I could hear you speak about it all day long. This is amazing. It really is about adaptation right? and accepting challenges like this makes me so excited. And I wish we had more time but I'm going to bring you back to really do some motivation for young people because I think they need to hear that. Absolutely. Well, you know what we're going to be looking out for your report on on the finance sector and how you can break in and these opportunities that you've been sharing. So thank you so much. for sharing your findings with us, we're excited to see that report. And everyone. Stay tuned for our next interview with Ben, who's going to take a deep dive with us into the health sector side. Thanks again.

Unknown Speaker  50:16  
Thanks a lot, Evelyn. And I would like to say that I would like to invite all your viewers and the youth to the youth summit on 23rd and 24th of April, I will share the link and hopefully, they will get to learn more about different opportunities and able to raise their concerns and voices with us. We are in this together, so don't worry.

Unknown Speaker  50:33  
Absolutely. And look out on the career foundation social media for more information on the Canadian Council for youth prosperity summit coming up on April 23. Okay, we'll see you on the other side. Thank you. 

Unknown Speaker  50:50  
Okay, welcome back everyone to the future at work, we're jumping right in with Ben Williams, in the final part of our three part series on youth futures, the project that we did here at the career Foundation, with the Canadian Council for youth prosperity. So thanks so much, Ben, for jumping back in to talk to us about your project. Why don't you kick us off with telling us a little bit about you, and the project that you worked on.

Unknown Speaker  51:22  
So I myself am a Canadian student, much like the others involved in the project. And sort of what brought me into this, like a lot of people with COVID, I had recently sort of pivoted, and I found myself working in a long term care home in Ontario, in a care home, near my hometown. And that was sort of my first real exposure to actually working within the healthcare sector. So then, when I came on board and joined this project and the youth futures team, I was given the option to sort of look into a sector and sort of what are the opportunities there for young people? And how can we get them involved in into the sector. And so at the time, I was really sort of interested in curious about the healthcare sector. And it was clear, I think, during the pandemic, that there's going to a very pivotal moment, and there's a lot of opportunity for change. And there's also a lot of opportunity, not just for young people across the board, but specifically for young people, there's just a lot of opportunity to get involved right now in the healthcare sector.

Unknown Speaker  52:28  
Yeah. And the thing is about this project is that we really wanted to show young people opportunities that existed, that they don't traditionally think about when they think about their first careers. So health is a great one for us to look at. But when we think about health, you know, the first thing people think about is like a scientist or a doctor or nurse, a lab tech. And you know, it's not as attractive to everyone as it could be. Why don't you tell us about the cruise that you did your research into? First, and then we'll go into the careers that young people that the pathways young people can take?

Unknown Speaker  53:12  
Yeah, so I would agree with you. I think a lot of people, when you think of health, the health care sector, you really focus in on the the doctor, the nurses, those more traditional roles. And yeah, I think that's one thing, it's, it really is like the health care sector. And I think that care part is you can really focus in on that part. And there really is a great deal of care that needs to be provided to people. And there's a lot of different ways that care can be provided. And that's sort of a bit more of where I focused my work on were these less technical skills, but still very important and meaningful roles where young people can get engaged. So some of these roles are a medical administrative person, a dietary aide, so someone who is preparing and serving meals in hospitals or long term care homes or other such settings. And a personal support worker, who is I think, well, that's, especially here in Canada, we've sort of really seen how important and sometimes undervalued that role can be during the pandemic. And I think it's a really important role that we start to sort of change the Canadian mindset of how we value these roles. And it's definitely well that we need more young people coming along on board.

Unknown Speaker  54:35  
Yeah, absolutely. And PSW was the one that you actually took on just because you saw the need to help people in long term care facilities. And I love that about young people today, where they're interested in making impact and helping others and so PSW is a natural calling. It was for you anyway.

Unknown Speaker  54:59  
Yeah, I Definitely for me, I, I was in a position I was, I was very privileged to be at home and in a safe space. But I think like anyone, you know, when the lockdown started, I also felt like, what am I going to do now. And this opportunity kind of presented itself. And I've I guess I've always worked in roles where I want to help people in one way or another. And this was just another way of doing that. And I sort of found myself drawn to that. So I think that's one thing that's key in people who are considering working in the health care, I think you sort of do need that calling of wanting to help and support people. And I think that's what's more important, rather than, you know, whether you have an academic background or an experience. So some people think, oh, I don't like blood, I can't work in healthcare, because this sort of idea that that it's that very tangible part of health and injuries and stuff, where's, there's so much more to it, I would encourage anyone who's feels that inside of themselves to consider the healthcare sector.

Unknown Speaker  56:06  
So take this a little deeper into those specific careers that you chose. Tell us about how young people could get ready to enter any of those three areas that you identified?

Unknown Speaker  56:21  
Yeah. So we'll just start off these these roles are all sort of selected. Sort of on three key things. Firstly, we were looking at roles that there is a demand for this, there's actually a need for these roles. And secondly, there, there are roles that require a lot, a little bit less than the usual sort of more roles you think of traditionally in the healthcare sector. So limited technical skills, or qualifications or edge, occasional backgrounds are needed, so that there's less barriers to entry. And then lastly, that we want to careers where there's a sort of, we could see a career trajectory, once you start in that role, you can progress and have a more long term career. So yeah, specifically, I'm looking at the PSW role, which is definitely in the demand is huge right now. And generally to take on that role you do, there is a certificate that you would take at a Canadian college. But generally that such certification can be done in a short period of time. So and it can be done part time, and usually less than a year and full time. And around four months. And from my research, there are a lot of employers who are offering some sort of way to sort of fund that training course and a number of colleges. And yeah, well, it's a job once you're on board, you can sort of stay in that role if you enjoy it. Or you can switch from long term care homes, to retirement homes to hospitals. Or if you want more of a flexible schedule, there's a great need for home care where you travel, specifically to home. So so it's a lot of flexibility. And it's also quite common for PSW to then once they've had a bit of experience and sort of settled, whether in their life or financially to go back to school to become an RPN which is a nurse, which is usually about a two year programme. So it sets itself up for a career progression where you feel like you're learning new skills and you're moving forward to different roles. And then yeah, if we're looking at the other roles that we sort of highlighted in the research, one of them is a dietary aide, which is a really important while though I think a lot of times we don't think of but obviously anyone who is staying in a hospital or long term care home and the other health care study, they need to eat and it's important that they're eating food that's nutritious, that's well prepared. And that takes a lot. A lot of people there's a lot of human resources that go into that. And then in generally the dietary aide role involves things like preparing the food, preparing snacks, ensuring that dietary requirements allergen requirements are followed and adhere to that there's portion control so that people are getting the right amount of food. And in some cases, assisting assisting people with serving and actually eating the meal, particularly in long term care homes where people might need more support with that. And yeah, it's the kind of role where if we As you start to get into it, and if you're interested in that kind of dietary side of things, there's opportunities to go back to this college programmes where you can enhance your the more cooking side of things, and come back and actually be a cook in long term care home or hospital. Because you see, there's one person who's in charge of actually preparing the meals or planning the meals, who does need a bit more of an educational background?

Unknown Speaker  1:00:31  
To enter that role, what's the educational background needed there?

Unknown Speaker  1:00:36  
Yeah, so generally, especially in the last year, a lot of posts that I found in my research are just looking for a safe food handling certificate, which is essentially an online course you can do in as little as maybe around eight hours, and usually costs around $30. Certain healthcare institutions may ask for a college certificate related to food handling. But not all, and some, some that do ask for that requirement will actually say on the job posting, required within one to two years, or a certain time period of being hired. So they're sort of flexible in recognising there's such a need right now that though, onboard you without that college certificate, and then allow you to get up part time while you're there.

Unknown Speaker  1:01:33  
So showing like an interest in moving you up to ensure that you have that diploma that allows you to take on the higher level of responsibility. Fantastic.

Unknown Speaker  1:01:44  
Yeah, yeah, I think that's definitely in my research, that seems like a sort of a trend. And maybe it's emerged out of COVID, this huge need for people in this role that employers are more willing than perhaps they have been in the past to support with, you know, upgrading skill sets in order to advance you into into these other roles. Because we're such a great need, I think employers recognise they need to limit their barriers to entry. Yeah, and so the last role is a medical office administrator, which essentially can look quite different. But essentially as providing administrative support, whether it's in a hospital or long term care home or any other sort of medical setting, whether it's a doctor's office, or a specialist office, there's a need for people who who sort of have that background in communications and in managing people and schedules. And essentially, the medical office administrator, or MOA, is often called the sort of that focal point, the institution that's helping to coordinate, you know, connecting the patients to the doctor, scheduling the patients. Often they can be involved in sometimes and the payroll side of things or supporting human resources, particularly if it's a really small office, they might sort of take on those administrative type roles as well. So it's, I think of the three that's the most diverse in terms of what the role might look like.

Unknown Speaker  1:03:25  
Yeah, I imagine I imagine sort of this base of medical office assistant that can sort of go into if you look at a root of a tree, and branches off into HR, it branches off into payroll, it branches off into billing, because it's a huge use with his or her billing or insurance, then you can have, like you said, the scheduling. I've also seen it where I think I shared this with you in the past, then, where a friend of mine had gone into training doctors around something specific. So training and development coming from a medical office assistant. programme, so that's fantastic. You should also know that while you were working on the project, we were building a PSW training programme. And that has been successful and we'll be launching in April, people will have free access to a short term training and PSW with employment guaranteed at the end, as employers are already so invested in the project itself. So really three great ways of getting into the health sector without having a degree right now.

Unknown Speaker  1:04:38  
Yeah, yeah, that's really awesome to hear about the PSW training programme. I think that's definitely much needed right now. And yeah, I'm very happy for the people who will be involved with that. Yes.

Unknown Speaker  1:04:49  
Absolutely. So based on everything I've heard from yourself from Saad and from Kamilah, it sounds like there are lots of opportunities for youth to enter into the health space into the finance, space and tech space. Am I painting too rosy of a picture here?

Unknown Speaker  1:05:09  
No, I, I mean, I think I think as a young person myself, I think there sometimes can be a lot of fear or sort of doom and gloom and you when you think about entering the workforce, especially sort of that first job. But I think one thing that's important for young people to keep in mind is sort of just deciding what you want to do. Or even broadly, what you want to do is sort of the biggest challenge. So I think if you're a young person who has identified you want to work in the tech sector, or the health sector, or the finance sector, that to me is sort of the biggest, the biggest piece of work out of the way. And from there, you can kind of start yourself on the path sort of similar to these paths we've been talking about. Because I think when you when you're headed in one direction, you, you know, we sort of which doors to knock on, which, you know, makes it more likely that the door will open for you. Whereas when you're just knocking on every door, you kind of doing yourself a disservice. So, yeah, I know, it's not always easy out there as young person, but I think if, if you know, where you want to go broadly, not, you don't need to be set yourself up on some very specific plan. There are resources out there for you, and especially online and, you know, with organisations like the career Foundation, so I think definitely never be afraid to, to ask for help or look for help or for support resources. And to help you get there definitely.

Unknown Speaker  1:06:44  
Fantastic. And also, for folks who haven't identified, even the one area that they want to look at, I mean, explore, right, explore and develop skills. I mean, Ben, you, yourself, your international development professional, but you jumped in when there was a need in PSW, and it landed you into a project that explored opening opportunities for youth in the health sector.

Unknown Speaker  1:07:10  
Yeah, definitely. I think that's really important. I think it comes back to what we talked about for about that. That kind of mindset, or what you feel in your mind or your heart. And I think that only comes from exploring, so definitely every opportunity is a good opportunity. And you're building skill sets and experience and all that is important. So that's another thing for young people is never feel like a job isn't the right job for you. Because no matter what it is, you're getting something out of it. And it'll help you move on to the next thing. Absolutely.

Unknown Speaker  1:07:43  
I love that. Now, tell us about the summit that's coming up with our colleagues at the Canadian Council for youth prosperity.

Unknown Speaker  1:07:53  
Yeah, so the Canadian Council for youth prosperity, as I think we've mentioned, has been running this impact COVID Road to Recovery project over the last four or five months, and there's been around 80 young people like myself, and Saad and Kamilah who have been involved in it. And essentially, it's all sort of coming together culminating in this National Youth summit. So that's going to be happening Friday, April 23, and Saturday, April 24. And it really is an opportunity to mobilise young people across Canada. This project is specifically focused on sort of creating a recovery plan, an economic recovery plan for young people related to the ongoing pandemic and its economic knock on effect. And yeah, it's really going to be a youth driven event sort of created by youth for youth. And there's going to be a lot of speakers, and workshops. So it's definitely going to be a really great event. And I encourage anyone listening to join us there. And yeah, if you want more information, you can check out CCYP. They're on Twitter and Instagram, both at cc y p, underscore CC, PJ. And you can also find them on LinkedIn if you just search Canadian Council for youth prosperity, and I'm sure the career foundation will be sharing that with their listeners as well soon.

Unknown Speaker  1:09:24  
We definitely will be doing a huge social media push to bring awareness about the summit. So follow us on social media to get more information on how to register and get involved. So Ben, it's come to that time, thank you so much for spending this afternoon with us and really giving young people some direction. Things are looking up out there. There are opportunities for people to enter even without a degree into sectors that they didn't even think about. So thanks for sharing that with us, everyone. Thanks so much for joining us, especially on this three part edition. The future of work and we'll see you next time as we explore other sectors and other industries that you can access. For more information, always check out our website at the career foundation calm, and Until then, stay safe and be well.

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