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#12 Not Chasing Unicorns: Venture Studios, ‘Boring’ AI, and the Future of UX – with Barry O’Reilly of Nobody Studios
In this episode of the UX Institute Podcast, I speak with Barry O’Reilly — author of Lean Enterprise and Unlearn, and co-founder of venture studio NobodyStudios — Barry joins us to talk about why he’s not chasing unicorns, and why “boring” AI businesses might be the smartest bet in the next decade.
Barry shares his journey from accidentally falling into programming in Dublin, Ireland to working on products such as Citysearch in the first dot-com wave, ThoughtWorks during the rise of Agile and Continuous Delivery, and finally into building a venture studio aiming to create 100 AI companies in five years. We dig into why most VC funds aren’t returning capital, why enterprise AI sales are a trap for early-stage startups, and how smart founders are using AI to build lean teams that still ship meaningful products.
We also get into why current AI UX has a long journey to go, how design will become the key differentiator on top of LLMs, and what product and UX teams might actually look like in 3–5 years.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
- How Barry went from engineering student in Dublin to author, advisor, and venture studio founder
- Why Nobody Studios focuses on health, wellness, e-commerce, and EdTech for AI opportunities
- Why “boring” but proven business models are often better than hype-driven AI ideas
- How tools like Lovable and similar “one-person billion-dollar company” platforms are great for prototyping but dangerous for production
- The studio’s strategy of building companies cheaply and selling early, instead of chasing unicorns
- Red flags in AI startups: vanity metrics, no learning loops, brittle tech stacks, and vague “proprietary data”
- Why early-stage founders should avoid long enterprise sales cycles and niche down to a very specific use case
- How Barry uses his own AI stack (meeting copilots, scripts, automation) to dramatically increase personal and organisational productivity
- Why UX and product design on top of AI will likely be the biggest competitive advantage in the next 5–7 years
- How roles for designers and product managers may shift away from pushing pixels in Figma toward higher-level problem solving and LLM-powered workflows
Barry O’Reilly
Author of Lean Enterprise and Unlearn, entrepreneur, advisor, and co-founder at Nobody Studios, a venture studio on a mission to build 100 companies in 5 years.
- Barry’s books: Lean Enterprise, Unlearn
- Nobody Studios: https://nobodystudios.com/
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