Shooting the Breeze with John Livia and Lee Priest: John's Birthday Celebration

Come celebrate Johns birthday with John, Lee and surprise guests.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_10 0:00

Fucking thing. Okay. Oh, it's all right. So who's we might have some latecomers because I invited a bunch of people, but this is my birthday celebration, and we have I normally come quick, not like the Molly crew. We have we have Ian Hedeck from the Ian Hedeck podcast who covers bodybuilding. He's been covering bodybuilding forever. We have the beautiful, talented, intelligent, weapon. Oh, thank you. Oh, oh shit, sorry. And we have the biggest pain in the ass in bodybuilding, Lee Free.

SPEAKER_03 1:01

Well, that must be me. And I can't believe you're not drunk. In honor of your birthday, I took today off. We never took today off training. It's Tuesday, so I figured I'll train from Wednesday to Sunday till I leave to go to Germany on Sunday. So I'll take today off. I'll take today off, and it's only 11:30 here because uh we we fell back an hour due to daylight savings. So but I've drank like almost over three-quarters of a bottle of gin just to be ready for your podcast.

SPEAKER_10 1:33

And you're not even drinking I'm actually uh drinking uh tequila.

SPEAKER_01 1:37

Oh my gosh, no, I'm drinking uh uh boobly.

SPEAKER_03 1:41

What is that? Oh booblay, it's booblet, Michael. It's booby.

SPEAKER_08 1:46

So do I have I have uh I have vodka, I have vodka and a lemonade.

SPEAKER_10 1:50

Oh, all right, good. We're all having a good time. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

We are all having a good time, yes.

SPEAKER_10 1:56

I also I invited Bo, I invited Dorian, I invited Mac Truck, uh uh Rich.

SPEAKER_03 2:02

Not not an Emma Cummon because I hate you, and plus and plus they're all black, so they'll probably be uh half an hour late apart from Dorian.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

I'm gonna answer that question. How he convinced me to come back is he pulled the it's my birthday card, and I just my heart strains pulled.

SPEAKER_10 2:22

I knew it. I knew it.

SPEAKER_01 2:24

That was that was the that was the that was the line.

SPEAKER_10 2:26

I'm like, oh well, I uh truly appreciate you coming back.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

Thank you very much. I'm sitting here right now, Wendy, with a gun to my head. If you don't come on, I'll pull the trigger.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

I'm walking on the plane tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 2:39

Stop, wait, hang on.

SPEAKER_10 2:40

Oh shit, I got bullets just flying out.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

Oh my gosh, he had that ready to you just had that on standby.

SPEAKER_10 2:46

Like I have a lot of uh I have a lot of points. Yeah, I have a lot of problems and the Chinese, the Chinese prop. Oh Harold Wendy, Harold.

SPEAKER_03 2:58

Just in case this this show I've only got this one I showed you before, but oh my gosh, Ian.

SPEAKER_02 3:06

I also have a I also have a birthday, John. I just want to say from Gotham City, happy birthday. It's great you're having a birthday today.

SPEAKER_08 3:14

I should get a prop now. Should I get should I get a prop too?

SPEAKER_10 3:16

Yeah, I know. I know and I also have a uh a gavel and uh uh a hammer for Lee when he when he can't fucking stop. I go order in the court, order in the court. Uh okay, and here is uh where's Rich. He's not ready yet. All right, Rich is coming. So I don't know. I gotta get some more props. I haven't been spending you need some more props. Yeah, that's I think I want to get I want to get like one of those uh I want to get one of those Jewish hats with the curls. Oh yeah, but don't go cheap. Make sure you get that propeller on top, lady extra don't no, not the beanie that they the the actual like Hasidic No that thing you put on your head and has a propeller on top with the with the curls, you know? Jewish helicopter, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 4:03

No, no, no, no, John, John. You see, you want you want the one that looks like a giant q-tip, like it's like like this big.

SPEAKER_10 4:09

Yes, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 4:11

With the one I want, I want to have this big so you can walk around with it, right?

SPEAKER_10 4:19

With the curls, and I also got to get a women's wig so I can I can look like Wendy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:24

Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_10 4:25

We'll we'll see. Yeah, we'll get a whole bunch. Well, uh Chindan. If nobody's Italian, that means a hundred years of good luck. So here we go.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

Cheers.

SPEAKER_10 4:38

Thank you, thank you. I don't know what happened to uh uh Rich, but I'm gonna actually You know he's black plays in the connection, keep past it. Yes, and I'll come back.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Anyway, okay I'm just gonna I'm just gonna sit here and laugh.

SPEAKER_10 4:53

Oh Ian, is Nick is Nick uh competing this year or he's done?

SPEAKER_08 4:58

It sounds like he's done in shape, but I'm saying that he's done.

SPEAKER_10 5:03

Yeah? Okay, tell us what you know since it's still bodybuilding. Thank you, Holly.

SPEAKER_08 5:09

He's the way he's going right now, because when I saw I see him at my gym from time to time, and he's like he's like, you know, he wants to take a little time off. That's what he said, but he looks like he's still in shape that he wants to come on. And I was thinking he might jump into New York or Pittsburgh. But he said, uh he had to go to the ball.

SPEAKER_03 5:28

Commissioner Gordon's here. The black ladies arrived. You do know the latest Commissioner Gordon is black, so that's Rich.

SPEAKER_11 5:37

They ought to say, who cares?

SPEAKER_10 5:40

Thank you, Jordan. Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate that. Thank you. How are you doing, big Rich?

SPEAKER_06 5:45

I'm doing well. I just got here from the gym. Sorry for my lateness. Turn your phone the right way, Rich.

SPEAKER_03 5:50

Turn your phone the right way.

SPEAKER_10 5:51

Yeah, turn your phone horizontal.

SPEAKER_11 5:54

Oh, it doesn't matter. There we go. There we go. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks?

SPEAKER_10 6:02

Wendy, Rich. Uh, Rich is a coach and an IFBB classic uh physique competitor as well.

SPEAKER_06 6:08

Yes. I see Wendy. Everybody knows Wendy. For normal commentary, all I can say is I'm not worthy.

SPEAKER_03 6:17

Yeah, yeah. Shut up, Rich. It's his birthday. Stop giving compliments to the wine. Come on, as you can.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Yeah, John's birthday. He gets John's birthday.

SPEAKER_03 6:26

I think that that's not about her. It's not about her. She gets that every fucking day of her life. Oh, you're so beautiful. Look at you, look at you.

SPEAKER_10 6:33

So I apparently I'm the birthday. Where did you drink? Yeah. Are you drinking anything? What are you what there better be some juice?

SPEAKER_11 6:42

I'm gonna guess. I'm gonna guess.

SPEAKER_01 6:46

Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_06 6:49

You know what? I'm gonna be honest. I'm gonna be real.

SPEAKER_11 6:56

Is it real? Hey, great. Hey mate, look look at the bat, look at the bat. I'm part of black. I'm part of black. I know.

SPEAKER_01 7:03

The Batman knows this is leading into that. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_11 7:08

Um Batman is nearly all blackish, you know. I'm dressing in black, so I got you, brother. I got you. Batman, where's your what's your drink, Batman? Me? I like to drink Gotham juice.

SPEAKER_00 7:21

Yeah, well, where is it? Oh my Gotham juice.

SPEAKER_11 7:24

It's a bit of penguin, splash a joker, and a little bit of Sandman, all mixed into a twist of what's her name? Yeah, forget that bitch anyway. A bit of her.

SPEAKER_10 7:35

You know what we need to do? We need Lee or Batman to uh disappear and come back as a different character.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

I actually that's my question is what is what is your favorite character, Lee? Batman, Superman. We have Lee's favorite character as well.

SPEAKER_11 7:51

Now I am the law, and I will not put up with any sh bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Yeah, you don't even know.

SPEAKER_11 7:56

Anything goes on over here, Jim.

SPEAKER_01 7:58

Maybe we should decide which one we like the best. So he plays the eastern. That's a good idea. I agree.

SPEAKER_03 8:04

That's my idea. So far. I work for ice. I work for ice.

SPEAKER_10 8:10

Oh and we got no foreigners on here. Fuck.

SPEAKER_07 8:12

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_10 8:14

I should have, I should have fucking uh I should have uh invited Victor Martinez.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

I love it. Someone said, What's the topic for tonight? We don't have one.

SPEAKER_10 8:23

Okay, who's that?

SPEAKER_01 8:25

Uh simply deep, simply deep 1985. Simply deep.

SPEAKER_10 8:31

What is my simply deep 1985? What's the topic? What character is this, Wendy? I don't know who this is.

SPEAKER_01 8:37

This one, uh, you look like you're wearing an LED mask.

SPEAKER_10 8:41

Is that uh is that a Star Wars character? So help me out.

SPEAKER_03 8:45

That was that was Kyle, that was Kyle I Red.

SPEAKER_10 8:48

Oh, it's a Star Wars. I don't know Star Wars. Once I get once Darth Vader's gone, I don't know much about Star Wars.

SPEAKER_03 8:54

I got Darth Vader up on the show.

SPEAKER_09 8:59

Here we go. Oh wow. Which one is that? Is that Sky Jason?

SPEAKER_03 9:05

That's Jason X. Jason X. When they put Jason Vohees into outer space, and the computer and him got mixed together, he became like a terminator Jason. Are you serious? Really?

SPEAKER_08 9:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 9:17

Wait a minute. They have they have a they have uh what the hell's what the hell happened?

SPEAKER_01 9:25

Oh simply deep 1985. I get I get it. You're deep with the questions and conversations. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_10 9:32

Yeah, let's uh now who am I? Okay, now you're regular Jason. That's obviously Jason. Wait a minute Jason that was in out of space.

SPEAKER_11 9:39

Which Jason was that which Jason Jason X. Now I'm just Jason. I was a little kid swimming in the lake, and those camp people are meant to be watching me. Got too busy fucking and I drowned, and then I come back and killed all of them. Fuck them.

SPEAKER_10 9:53

But I all right, hold on. I don't think I got past like the second Friday the 13th. How did they made one where Jason's in space?

SPEAKER_03 10:02

Yes, he goes to space, they put his body in out of space. Are you fucking serious? You gotta watch it, it's a great one. Because it actually becomes it becomes huge, it becomes huge and muscular and he's like half terminator, and he starts killing them in the space station. That's incredible. That's incredible.

SPEAKER_10 10:21

I never fucking knew that. You know, there are people like that are really into like Friday the 13th and whatnot. No, the last one I saw was Friday the 13th versus uh Freddie versus Jason. I watched that. Oh, yeah. They're making that one, they're making they're making a part two today.

SPEAKER_03 10:37

Are they really? I could be like from Street Fighter.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

There we go.

SPEAKER_10 10:43

Oh, yeah, Scorpion.

SPEAKER_03 10:44

I saw this could just be your fancy new covert mask if you're going down on a stinky girl. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_10 10:58

That's happened that that hasn't happened to me in years.

SPEAKER_06 11:00

Like, I think it was anything about the movie He-Man.

SPEAKER_03 11:07

I just had to watch the preview again. Not watching when he's Adam and he turns into He-Man, he still looks the same.

SPEAKER_07 11:13

Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 11:14

I'm not watching that shit.

SPEAKER_10 11:15

I'm just you know, no. The last time I watched He-Man, I was like seven. I'm gonna leave it there. All right, I'm just not watching He-Man. But I mean, I I never even saw the Dolph Lungren one. Oh, that wasn't bad. Swear to god, I didn't. I grew up, I grew out of video games and kid movies when once I got to like mid like junior high school, like I didn't play video games anymore. I got my hand.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

What console did you have?

SPEAKER_10 11:41

Nintendo, super nintendo, like I had the last one I had, I think, was Super Nintendo, and then that's that's where I left off. Last one I had was Commodore 64.

SPEAKER_03 11:51

Oh my god, you're fucking that's so you know what Thanos, you know what Thanos thinks of that?

SPEAKER_10 11:57

What can he do anything else? What if what if Thanos had to like you know pleasure that stinky girl? You would have the mask on.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_10 12:08

What would he have to do?

SPEAKER_03 12:13

Firstly bitch slaps her. Yeah, then he then he punches her in the face, and then he hits her right up the esophagus.

SPEAKER_10 12:23

He doesn't through the whole, doesn't hold through through the whole you know, you know when you're young, when like Wendy, you know, I'm drunk, so I'm gonna treat you like one of the guys right now.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

I love I love that you guys aren't holding back.

SPEAKER_10 12:34

You know, when you know when you're young and you're like you're like 15 and you first you like start finger popping and you're like you have no idea, and then you get to like 25 and you're like, Oh, I I know what has to you go in there and you pull this way, yeah. And then she's like, I feel like I got a P. And you're like, Oh, that's it, that's the spot.

SPEAKER_06 12:55

When do you think what did I get myself into?

SPEAKER_03 12:57

Yeah, sorry. You forgot when you were 15 for five days, you don't wash your hands and keep going DMA smell.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

Oh god, I don't know, but you're giving me insight. I don't know, I don't know how it is to be a 15-year-old boy, but thank you for the insight. I'm glad that I have that now.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

Trust me, trust me, John. Girls, I had a sister. Yeah, we just say it openly. Trust me, girls are a lot worse behind closed doors. My sister used to date a stripper, right? If you go to a strip club, guys just sit there, guys just sit there in a strip club like this, look up, they talk to their mates. Strip clubs have the best meals. So you really go there for a meal. My sister daily stripper. So I went to some of these shows. Those women are like fucking an Ethiopian chasing a fucking food truck. I mean, like, they are fucking out of control trying to rip his pants off, grab this, grab that, going backstage, married, going backstage, blowing some of the other strippers. So don't these women come off innocent? They're fucking worse than the men, don't they? Oh well, it's in the genes. You can't fight DNA, it's in your genes.

SPEAKER_10 14:03

Wendy, you're a guy tonight. It doesn't matter. You're a guy tonight. You're a you're a guy tonight. That's fine. Um, but yeah, you're right. When girls go to a strip club, male strip club, it's like a big party, they start going crazy. When guys go to a strip club, it's basically like a lion hanging out, chill out, yeah, chill out. A lion looking at a herd of elk that's just staring at it.

SPEAKER_03 14:21

They're looking at the girl on stage that used to look like their wife before they got married and she put on 50 pounds and had four kids.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

I have a question for you, Lee. I have a question for you. Do you serious? Do you feel objectified? Does this bother you?

SPEAKER_07 14:36

Well, objectified.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

Do you feel objectified? Do you feel like like objectified?

SPEAKER_03 14:45

Wendy, that's what you've been drinking. What words what word you're looking for?

SPEAKER_01 14:49

Yeah, just you just you know, when when women just like look at you and they just want you for your looks and your body. Jesus Christ, Wendy, you're gonna make me fumble at all.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

No, no, women, Wendy.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

In all my Wendy, makes you feel Wendy. You know, in all my life, I've told John this before, whether I never picked up on the signals or anything, in my whole career as a pro when I did guest posings, appearances, I never got one phone number, never had a one-night stand, I never did anything like that. So I don't think I was objectified. I think they looked at me and went, that guy's fucking nuts. Stay away from him. Yeah, it was pure respect for your he's a good body, he's a good bodybuilder, but oh fucking hell. If I sleep with him, he might stab me the next day.

SPEAKER_10 15:32

So I'm the handsome one. So uh Lee has the clout, but I'm the handsome one. So let's just we'll leave it at that. Okay, got it.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

I know women love clouds. John John's John's my wingman on the F 18 going down on fire.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Uh I can't wait to see you two together.

SPEAKER_10 15:55

Oh, yes, we'll be in we'll be in Nashville. And um, Ian is already Ian already is making plans to go to fucking Arnold USA next year. All right, and Pittsburgh, right?

SPEAKER_08 16:06

Already.

SPEAKER_10 16:07

He's already fucking, yeah, he's already fucking making plans. He he messaged me last week. He's like, you want to go? I'm like, dude, I didn't even Jesus Christ, it's just the old UK just ended. I don't make plans.

SPEAKER_03 16:17

Why don't you make play? Why don't you make plans to go or to go? Why don't you make plans to go to the Olympia? Because he and I'll probably be at the Olympia and it's Vegas.

SPEAKER_10 16:25

When is the Olympic? The thing is, okay, here's the thing. I'm going to the Bahamas in a couple of weeks, then I'm gonna go to then I'm going to Nashville, and then I'm going to Aruba in September. Oh my god. I know. Oh, and the Olympia's in September, you prick. Listen, uh, listen, life isn't all about bodybuilding. Sometimes it just gotta get away. You know, you think you think we go there for bodybuilding, you fuck? No, you go there because they pay you, you fucking hard on. That's why no one goes to the Olympia for the bodybuilding. You you go there because they pay you. They paid you to go to Edison, New Jersey, and you showed up. Oh shit. What happened to Russia? I'll go anyway.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

Where's Rich again?

SPEAKER_10 17:07

Rich has got bad service.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

All right, Ian. He needs to fucking duct tape that internet connection to his neighbors a bit better, for fuck's sake.

SPEAKER_10 17:14

Yeah, really, he's got rabbit ears over there. Okay, Ian. So, Nick, we don't know what's going on with Nick, Nick Walker, right? You're saying that so far he's saying he's not doing anything.

SPEAKER_08 17:28

But yet he's still in shape that he can do the Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_10 17:33

Yeah, he can jump in and like, yeah, right, exactly. But he said, no, he's not doing New York and he's not doing Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_08 17:40

Right.

SPEAKER_01 17:41

Did he say why?

SPEAKER_10 17:44

No, I don't know why.

SPEAKER_08 17:45

I just wanted to, I think he just well, remember, he's doing his own prep now. He has, I knew he had Guy helping him out watching him. Yeah, guy, yeah, he has helped him.

SPEAKER_07 17:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 17:56

But you know, Nick was kind of more like if he didn't win this show, you know, he's okay. I got you.

SPEAKER_10 18:07

He still gotta qualify to do the Olympia though, right?

SPEAKER_08 18:10

He does, yeah. I mean, but the funny thing is they got him on the Olympia poster, too.

SPEAKER_10 18:15

Well, yeah, I mean, he also could like just jump in a show right before the Olympia, you know, he'll whatever. Uh nobody will show up. Everybody will fucking be like, oh, no way.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

I wish he would have done Detroit. That would have been so perfect.

SPEAKER_10 18:32

He should have done Detroit.

SPEAKER_03 18:33

We all said everybody, we everyone should have done Detroit.

SPEAKER_10 18:36

I know he would have smashed Detroit, and then it's and he would have just had to hang out till the Olympia.

SPEAKER_03 18:41

What's going on, Rich? Rich, didn't your neighbors pay their internet? Are you losing signal? What's going on? No, I'm in a new car, I'm in a new unit and the new construction.

SPEAKER_10 18:50

Oh a new unit. Did you move, Rich?

SPEAKER_06 18:54

I did move.

SPEAKER_10 18:54

Rich is also in Canada, so uh that explains a lot. And the United States is about to take over Canada, so you know we're not that bad. It will hold Canada will be the 51st state.

SPEAKER_03 19:05

Why didn't why did you move Rich? There's two reasons. You wanted a new place or you became single. Which is it? Oh, because good question. Well, that's a very good question.

SPEAKER_10 19:15

You told me you had a girlfriend. Oh, yeah. Uh when did we talk last?

SPEAKER_03 19:19

Oh, you that's another one you could be hiding from the girlfriend.

SPEAKER_10 19:24

Who's the fucker talking shit to Lee? That's me. It's my show, you goddamn.

SPEAKER_07 19:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 19:32

Um, yeah, you told me you had a new you you had a girl, what when did we talk last? Like oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Two months ago, something like that.

SPEAKER_03 19:39

Oh, she escaped from the basement months ago.

SPEAKER_07 19:41

She's born chains, that's why you moved. That's why you moved.

SPEAKER_06 19:49

We have to move out west, but and then go to Dubai, but not looking too good now.

SPEAKER_10 19:53

We haven't, oh okay. Oh, that's right. You were talking about going to Dubai, yeah, that's right. Yeah, because you're you're Muslim, right? Yeah, yeah, that's right. Okay. Um, we haven't had a good serial killer in a while. I don't know why.

SPEAKER_03 20:05

Look, you can be a Muslim and not be a terrorist. Look, you can be a Muslim and not want to blow shit up.

SPEAKER_06 20:11

Exactly. Only in the bedroom.

SPEAKER_03 20:13

No, but being Muslim though, being Muslim, there are Muslims who aren't of Islamic faith because some Muslims can be Christians or whatever. So, but do you follow Islam or like the not the crazy, not the crazy Islam, but Islam is the peaceful Islam.

SPEAKER_10 20:32

I mean, I'm a good judge of characters.

SPEAKER_06 20:34

Number one, I follow peace and harmony. Uh I believe in happiness, treat everyone equal, fairness. It's all about my faith. It's all about I believe in what's right, what's wrong. Whatever happening in the Middle East, that's that's not my concern, that's not my business. I understand it's terrifying, but like I said, end of the days, I'm still me. Um Islamic, and that's it.

SPEAKER_10 20:55

Well, let's get back onto the serial killer topic. We have not had a how many backpacks do you have in your cover? Excuse me, Lee. See this one I need to fucking John.

SPEAKER_01 21:03

Go with it because I have something to say to that. So keep going with your thoughts because I have a I have a follow-up to that.

SPEAKER_10 21:10

I have a theory too, Wendy. What's your theory? I have a theory.

unknown 21:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Well, I mean, my theory to that is back when in like you know, 60s and 70s, we have some of the most notorious serial killers. Um, I watch all the all the shows.

SPEAKER_10 21:27

Yeah, women love that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 21:29

I know who's your favorite, Dharma, Gacy.

SPEAKER_10 21:33

No, I know who her favorite is. I know, I know who Wendy's favorite is. I know who it is. Not Kemper. Not Kemper. Ed Kemper was the co ed killer and he was a genius. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

Well, so I so well, here's my theory, okay? Back then we didn't have they didn't have the internet, they barely had, I mean, cable was not. And so I mean it was a lot easier for people to get crafty and creative and hide out. It's like you people catch things without even realizing it on their cell phones. People have tracking, you know, devices. There's just way too much uh protection now and technology. I'm not sure if we're gonna get a notorious serial killer, it might be a thing of the past.

SPEAKER_03 22:23

It's not the cell phones, it's not the cell phones, it's sort of DNA bullshit they can do.

SPEAKER_10 22:29

There's a lot, there's a lot that they believe it or not. I actually have a cousin who is a um forensic psychologist. Yeah, and she actually told me that there are serial killers, but they get caught really quick. Yeah, like the Craigslist killer got caught really quick, and she said uh she basically told me that um because for monoforensics, DNA, ballistics, um uh surveillance, it's very difficult to get away with being uh a serial killer, but you have an upswing in mass shooters because that just happens on the whim like that.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

You just gotta be just gotta be transgender to be a mass shooter these days. But you know, the thing is too, if you want to be a serial killer, just do it randomly, like driving across Australia. There's the odd hitchhiker, pull over, stab him in the neck, and keep going. Just you know, just there were random shit where there's no connection, you just keep on going.

SPEAKER_10 23:20

Uh Wendy, did you watch that show that was on Netflix? I believe uh it was two seasons about when the FBI put together a task force just for serial killers in the 1970s.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

I might have.

SPEAKER_10 23:32

I might have it was it was only two seasons and it was fantastic. I forgot it was called uh something mind. Uh I forgot the criminal criminal mind. Wasn't it criminal mind? It was a criminal mind. Um, and um, what they did was they actually interviewed all the serial killers that were in jail already.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Yes, I don't know if that I saw that exact show, but I saw something like that. Um, very very interesting, very fascinating. It's a talking to a psychologist about these, uh, about these serial killers. It's crazy how you you know what they do and they seem totally normal when they're talking. It's it's almost it's eerie.

SPEAKER_03 24:12

It's but they're IQ, they're gonna get their IQ is really, really high. So like all these people. Anyone throughout life, even if you're not a serial killer, but just look at anyone like they say was crazy, Tesla. Um, what's his name? Who built the spruce goose, Elon. You know, all these people that have like great ideas and they're smart as their IQs through to roof, but even some of these serial killers like Bundy and all these people, they reckon they're IQs through the roof, and they're just like normal people if you were to talk to them. They're charming, down to they're not like you know, when you tell your kids stranger danger, you paint this picture of someone evil and scary. Most people that adopt kids can be like your grandfather. How are you going? That's nice. Here we go, off we go. Little fucky sucky in the back of the truck and slit your throat, and out you go.

SPEAKER_10 25:01

As far as thank you. Yes, it was called Mindhunter. Yeah, Mindhunter. Yeah, I watched that one.

SPEAKER_07 25:05

Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_10 25:06

If it it's only two seasons and you gotta watch, it's fantastic. And uh, it's uh did you see it, uh Ian?

SPEAKER_08 25:16

No, I said I have to put it on my list. I mean, I knew there was a movie.

SPEAKER_10 25:19

Yeah, it's based on a true story, and it's they the FBI put a task force together to figure out what's going on because there was this explosion of serial killers in the 60s and 70s, and the guy they would actually go and interview serial killers and see what made them tick. It's it was it was amazing, and they they for some reason after the second season they killed it. I don't know why they stopped it. I have no idea.

SPEAKER_05 25:40

So, what makes you a serial killer? You killed after two people, three people, or what that's a good question.

SPEAKER_10 25:45

Um, I think there's uh I think there's a lot more goes into it. I think there has to be more of a motive. You have to kill more than yeah, two or three people, and there has to be like the rules, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:54

Yeah, I think what was that famous line from Cliffhanger when John Lifgow got out the helicopter and they're like, You're a murderer, you this, you're mass murderer. He goes, Oh what he goes, kill a few people, you're a you're a killer, mass murderer, kill a few thousand, you're a conqueror. Go figure.

SPEAKER_10 26:12

Yeah, that's right, that's right. And the worst, wait, Wendy, the worst serial killer, as far as I'm concerned, was uh Eileen Wernos. She was very clever. She was just a prostitute that would say, Yeah, let's have sex, and then he would she would shoot you and then leave and then take your money.

SPEAKER_03 26:29

Wasn't that because she was raped and that by a lot of them to begin with? So it's more of a more of a revenge thing.

SPEAKER_10 26:34

Yeah, but Ed like somebody like Ed Gaines, who you know used to make like a skin suit, right?

SPEAKER_03 26:40

Yeah, and he made furniture, so at least he was useful. He made it wasn't like you just kill wasn't like you just kill a man animal and don't eat it. He killed a person and made furniture, so at least he did something.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

Yeah, that was her. That was her, yeah. That's right. Okay, that's right.

SPEAKER_10 26:59

She did a great job uh in that in that movie, yeah. Yeah, and but basically she would just you know say, Yeah, I'm a prostitute, and then guys would be like, Okay, how much? And then she would shoot you in the face and take your car and your money and your jewelry, and that was it. Everyone's gotta have a hobby, yeah, yeah. Well, like like Ed Kemper, Ed Kemper, he hated his mother. They made a movie about him Ed Cain, Ed Cain. No, it's a different one. Ed Kemper. It's a different one. They call him the co-ed killer.

SPEAKER_03 27:30

I'm thinking of Kemper from the bodybuilding world. What's his name?

SPEAKER_01 27:34

John Kemper, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 27:35

He's from Jersey. So so um, so basically what he would do is he at first he would basically um kill any, he would uh kill any young woman, he would uh rape them before and after they were dead, and then um he would uh cut their heads off, and then he would bury them in the backyard, and he would he would face the heads up, even though they were buried, looking at his mother's window, because he said that he always wanted Ma always wanted people to look up to her.

SPEAKER_01 28:06

Oh my gosh, and then his face.

SPEAKER_10 28:09

So far away is the bad thing in this. Keep down, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the and then the and then the and here's the best part. Yeah, then the his last kill was his mother, right? His last kill was his mother. He decapitated her, he had sex with the head, and then he kept hearing her screaming in his head, like hearing voices. So then he took the vocal cords and and uh put them in the garbage disposals, and then he actually turned himself in because they they couldn't figure out who it was. And then, um, and then when he turned himself in, he actually told them, Don't don't ever release me because I'm never gonna stop.

SPEAKER_03 28:43

Oh my god, yeah, it was it's funny. Now that's now that's a great story of a serial killer getting rid of his mama, and the first thing they're having a problem is admitting it. So I didn't see what the problem is.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

So, John, you are a serial killer aficionado.

SPEAKER_10 29:00

I think it's because of my cousin, it should be the next.

SPEAKER_01 29:03

We were talking about this before we started the show, and you're figuring out what direction you know, you've you've interviewed porn stars and all kinds of different types of people. You're trying to figure out where you flow. I think this could be an avenue for you, you know.

SPEAKER_10 29:15

I'm gonna give the I'm gonna give the world smut.

SPEAKER_01 29:17

Uh there could be a there could be a market for this.

SPEAKER_10 29:20

You're no, there is, and as a matter of fact, Wendy, the majority of uh serial killer podcasts are women. Women love serial killers, yeah, because they plan on killing their fucking husbands all the time. They fucking love serial killers. Men usually like the the the the um the gangsters, the murderers of power, the money, you know, uh the mafia, the the the Mexican drug cartels.

SPEAKER_09 29:45

I like I like serial killers.

SPEAKER_03 29:48

I like the random shit. I like the random shit. Like if I was walking along a bridge or somewhere and there's a couple taking a selfie near a cliff, and I look around, no one's around. Just fucking push them both over. Fuck them shit like that. Just instant shit and keep walking.

SPEAKER_10 30:02

Yes, uh John. You're right. Ed Kemper was six foot seven, he was well over 300 pounds. Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:08

Um, anyway. The BBK killer someone mentioned, he was good because wasn't he he was a family man? He went to church and they didn't catch him for over 30 years or more. You'd drive the land.

SPEAKER_10 30:23

He stopped.

SPEAKER_03 30:25

Was he the same? Was he the same as the Green River killer, or is that a different guy?

SPEAKER_10 30:28

No, I don't I never heard of that guy, but the um the what do you call it? The what was the name of the killer that you first mentioned?

SPEAKER_03 30:35

BB BBK.

SPEAKER_10 30:36

Yeah, the BBK killer actually stopped killing in like the early 90s, and then he started again in 2000s. Bad mistake. DNA was lucky. Right, that's when they caught him because then uh because uh forensics technology was so far advanced that they actually caught him when he started again in the early 60s.

SPEAKER_03 30:54

That's where Jack the Ripper was lucky, no DNA back in Jack the Ripper's day. Nothing it was unbelievable.

SPEAKER_10 30:59

All right, let's get the other guys involved here. Rich, tell us what's going on. Are you competing? What's happening? What's going on in uh in your life?

SPEAKER_06 31:07

Uh very good question. I moved um since Ramadan, I've been uh on hiatus, but um starting my prep um Friday. And the plan is either back to Dubai Pro or Romania and then call it quits. Uh Dubai Pro.

SPEAKER_02 31:29

The Dubai Pro is that's I thought I thought he said by pro. You gotta be bi to go.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Oh my gosh, of course you heard that.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

James kick it in.

SPEAKER_10 31:38

Carry on. But that is uh, you know, listen, if I had a pro card and I wanted to compete, I would definitely go to a country that I'd want to see. What's the you know what I mean? Why not? If you're gonna compete and and um you're gonna get yourself in shape, you might as well like make a weekend out of it or a week out of it. Oh, you you so you stood there, right, Rich? Well, last week last year when you did it, you stayed there for like a couple of weeks, right?

SPEAKER_06 32:01

I stayed there for like three and a half weeks, fell in love with it.

SPEAKER_10 32:04

Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of people love it. Sergio didn't like it too much. Sergio didn't like it too much. But Sergio left.

SPEAKER_03 32:11

Careful when you're driving over there. Yeah, you know what?

SPEAKER_06 32:14

It's not as bad as um, like I said, it's anywhere like in the world. It's you can be caught, do something wrong, and it's just severe there. But the problem is, it's just if you don't have the money and the wealth, uh, yeah, you can get stuff stuck in a in a bind.

SPEAKER_03 32:30

But rather than that, to be put to break it to you. You're black, if you run someone over, you're fucked, just carry on.

SPEAKER_06 32:39

That that's besides the point.

SPEAKER_03 32:40

Yeah, I think Dubai is a lot better than America, they don't discriminate on race in Dubai, so you're okay.

SPEAKER_10 32:46

Yeah, yeah, you're right. Uh Dubai just throw everybody in jail when you screw up. But Ian, what do you think? How is how is the Ian Hayek podcast going? What have you been covering? What have you been doing?

SPEAKER_08 32:57

Covering pretty much everything. I mean, you know, we're getting ready for um see Pittsburgh, we got Legion, New York.

SPEAKER_09 33:05

That's right.

SPEAKER_08 33:06

You forgot FIBO, you forgot the FIBO pro. I don't know anyone's doing it yet. That's right. That's that's why no one talks about it because no one knows about it.

SPEAKER_10 33:13

Well, Sauce is doing FIBO, right?

SPEAKER_03 33:16

Soss is the only one we know of, and I'll be there in a week's time, and I don't know anyone doing the show.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

I have FIBO FOMO though, because everyone who's not competing, except for me, seems to be going to FIBO.

SPEAKER_03 33:28

Well, why you if Sas is the only one in FIBO, I'll jump in at Fed and get run around. Oh, yeah, really.

SPEAKER_10 33:34

Ian, why are we getting such a shit turnout this year when it comes to competing? Last year we got a tremendous turnout. Go ahead, Ian.

SPEAKER_08 33:43

Because everybody's waiting for the summer. Well, look at summer shows. Everybody's waiting for either Texas, Tampa. But if everybody waits for Texas, Texas and Tampa are the main two shows, and then you get everybody who wants to do and then you get everybody who wants to do the show is in probably uh in Europe before the Olympia.

SPEAKER_10 34:10

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_06 34:12

What about look at Taiwan? One person showed up in Taiwan.

SPEAKER_10 34:16

Are you serious? When was this?

SPEAKER_06 34:17

Yeah, this weekend, past weekend. Taiwan in Taiwan. One person in one.

SPEAKER_01 34:24

And they held the show.

SPEAKER_10 34:25

They but the question is, did did he win? What category was this person in?

SPEAKER_06 34:33

Men's physique. And what about the open and no open only men's physique and I could have won the open in Taiwan? Well, so they didn't have they didn't have the open at all. There was no open body, there was just men's physique and another category, and and I think that was it, or bikini, that was it.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

And they only had Jesus Christ. Well, I asked I asked that question because we used to have an organization here in Australia, and the promoter was so funny. If one person turned up like that and you weren't in your best shape ever, you'd get second place. Sometimes there was a category of two people, he'd give them second and third. He'll be like, you know what? You aren't in great shape. If somebody here was in good shape, you wouldn't have got first. I'm not giving you first, you get second and third.

SPEAKER_07 35:17

So somebody's that's interesting.

SPEAKER_02 35:20

Yeah, some of these people wouldn't even win a show if they're the only person in it. That's fucking retired.

SPEAKER_06 35:26

And he got the qualifier for Olympia. Yeah, that's oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

I don't know. I'm just not down with that.

SPEAKER_10 35:33

That's not right. Not the Olympia. If there's only one person, I can't believe one person showed up for time, and they still held the show. You know, he lost his ass on that fucking show. You know the promoter lost money.

SPEAKER_03 35:46

But we can't blame him now. If he came in really good shape, anyone, we can't blame him on numbers not turning up.

SPEAKER_08 35:52

So yeah, Ian.

SPEAKER_10 35:54

Did you hear about that?

SPEAKER_08 35:56

No, I didn't hear about it at all.

SPEAKER_10 35:58

Yeah, Jesus. Taiwan unbelievable. I don't know what's going on this year. Last year we had a fantastic turnout of Pittsburgh, the Arnold, um, uh New York Pro. And for some reason, this year it's just we're having a poor turnout. I don't know what the hell is going on.

SPEAKER_03 36:15

I just don't know why pros are in their young when they're in their 20s or early 30s, and you've dieted it down like the Arnold. Perfect example. I know I've said it before, but when we did the Iron Man, was the first show. We went from the Iron Man to the Arnold a week later. A week later was the San Francisco. Everyone did all of them. So I don't get why these people go through the heartache of the dieting, the training, the cardio. You do one show, things don't go well. There's a show a week later. Why the fuck aren't you doing it? Or the week after that?

SPEAKER_01 36:45

He looks amazing.

SPEAKER_03 36:46

Oh, that's okay.

SPEAKER_01 36:48

Yeah, he looks he looks like he looks good.

SPEAKER_10 36:52

Yeah, he should be he should be, yeah, he should be on that show. He looks amazing. But Wendy, why do you think why were you why do you think we're having such a poor turnout this year?

SPEAKER_01 36:59

I think because there's just so many shows. I mean, back in the day, I mean, when I first started competing in 2008, there were not so many options. I mean, the the year I turned pro was the first year in figure that you had to win a show to qualify for the Olympia because the year before I turned pro, it was a top three at every pro show. And they did it that way because that was the only way they'd have a decent lineup at the Olympia. My first Olympia um that I competed in, there were only 19 of us that qualified because there were just not, I mean, there weren't, so you had more of a critical mass at every pro show. You know what I mean? Um, like I mean, you know, when Lee was competing, when you look at the Iron Man Pro, I mean, everybody would do the Iron Man Pro because there were there weren't a lot of pro shows to do. So you won a pro show and you're like, you look like you could, you don't know who how you're gonna do with the Olympia, you know? But yeah, I mean, there are just so many shows. Case in point, I was just doing Monday Night Muscle with Suki from Beyond the Stage TV on Sunday, and we interviewed three of the of Jamie D. Bernard's bikini pro champions because there were three bikini shows happening on the same day, and all three of our athletes won the, you know, but that just goes to show. I mean, one weekend there's three different pro shows. So you you consider all the pros being distributed in all these shows. It's just so many, you know, and it just it kind of sprinkles it out into the field so much more.

SPEAKER_08 38:31

I mean, when there's diluted by having so many shows. Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

I mean, you have like you could have a critical mass of the strongest athletes who all want to compete at, let's say, you know, Pittsburgh Pro. And if like the same weekend there's another show, you're gonna have a stronger lineup at one than the other for sure. And so it's you know, and the there's there is a in some divisions, there's a tiered system with points. So some shows get more points than other shows. But I mean, a win is a win. So if you win a show, I think in in some divisions you still qualify automatically with one win. Other divisions, I believe bikini and physique, and I don't know what other divisions you have to win two pro shows or burn on points. Um, but I do think that that's what's happening for sure.

SPEAKER_10 39:22

You know, um uh somebody brought up a good point about the prize money in open. Um if I was uh you know, if I if I was Mo Fuda and now I know I and and you win the Detroit and you find out that there's only eight people in the Arnold UK, um I would see what I have to do to get in there because he could could have definitely came in third and took home a nice paycheck.

SPEAKER_03 39:48

Well the people the people thinking of the prize bike is like back in there. Say that again, Ian.

SPEAKER_08 39:56

He was supposed to be there. No, Mo Fuda was supposed to be in the actual RO UK. Oh, and what happened? Well, his wife is pregnant and he's missed her. And he pulled himself out.

SPEAKER_03 40:05

Yeah, no, she's already pregnant, it's not gonna get any more pregnant.

SPEAKER_06 40:09

No, but that's what he's saying. He missed her and she was almost ill and he wanted to come back home.

SPEAKER_03 40:14

So all right, whatever. Oh but even back when I was competing, I don't the prize money now is a lot better. Fuck it's a huge thing. But but back in my day, we barely had 10 grand at the most to win a show. You did it, you did it because you're in shape. If there's contests a week apart, you just did it. No one that I know have ever thought about if I win this, I'm gonna get this money. You did it because if you won a pro show, it did well, it would help you just then, you know, contracts and magazines. I know we don't have them anymore, but that's back then. Yeah, no one ever did it for the money. It was just that shit, I've gone through hell for this show. There's a few more just a week apart. Why wouldn't they do them? It's just crazy not to think that. And Wendy, beyond the stage TV, you get lots of guests on with difference of opinions. I think you should have John on to mix up the opinions sometimes.

SPEAKER_10 41:04

Yes, yes, let just let me know, I'll be there. Um, I have to say this, I forgot. I I should have said this at the beginning of the book.

SPEAKER_08 41:11

John, John Andrew, Andrew Jack has qualified has said he's doing both the UK and the Arnold is Columbus.

SPEAKER_10 41:17

Next year, yeah. Why not? Might as well. I mean already said might yeah, really. You might have might have you could do it again next year.

SPEAKER_03 41:28

One of my biggest hate, and I told you before, my biggest pit hate is when you have someone interviewing a pro and they say, So what's your next show? And they say, I gotta speak to my coach. I'm like, Oh god, yeah, yeah. You pick the shows if the show suits you and you're excited to do it, you tell tell your coach, I want to do this show. Now you get me in shape for this show. You don't ask your fucking coach because sometimes the coach will look at the lineup and go, Okay, well, you might not be at him and you might not be at him. So if you come fifth, if you come fifth or fourth, it might not make me look good. I'm not gonna put you in shows where you can win or get runner up. So you tell your fucking coach what you want to do.

SPEAKER_08 42:11

Yeah, really. Um, I just have to say this. Wait, John, wait, John, John, before you continue, yeah. You know, you know, also Andrew Jack won 30 grand at his gym. That's right.

SPEAKER_10 42:24

How did he wind up doing that?

SPEAKER_08 42:30

They gave him 15 grand per um per rent. Damn, that son of a bitch is rolling in it. Um you go to you go to a show, you go in your show, and then the gym says, Here we're making enough money, we're gonna give you money.

SPEAKER_10 42:45

Yeah, I know, really. Um uh, I don't want to bring the show down, but I have to I have to say this. Um died. No, nobody died, nobody died. Uh, but Jace Jason Arnes is uh he's back home, he's not in the hospital anymore. But it looks like he had he's gonna have to be going back to the hospital. So he he's he's not in uh good position right now. Uh so this I don't know the I I know the details, but he doesn't want me to say anything yet. So but the link is in the description. Please do me a favor, just go to iPorveil Subs and pick out anything. I mean, he's got great products. Use the discount code SNS10. iPrave SUPS has great products. He has his sleep aid Dream Chaser, he has uh the fiber, he's got a great pre-workout called uh Rogue X, his branch chain amino ass, it's all quality stuff. Just go and show a little support. You don't have to spend a fortune, just buy something, use the discount code so we know it's from he knows it's from the show. Um, I'm doing, you know, I'm trying to push as much as I can for him and his uh his product line, you know, as a as a friend. He'll he'll be okay. He's gonna be fine from what I understand, but he's he's He's gonna be in and out of different hospitals and clinics. And when he's ready, he's gonna come on the show and talk about what's going on because it's it's it's it's severe, but he'll be okay. I'll be all right.

SPEAKER_03 44:11

But it's not the worst when you go for a second and they say you gotta go back here and you gotta go to that one. You're like, Oh, when's it ever gonna end? It's like oof.

SPEAKER_10 44:19

Well, yeah, that's what that's what had happened. He had two back surgeries, and um he just kept having a tremendous amount of pain and a tremendous amount of pain and a tremendous amount of pain.

SPEAKER_03 44:31

Uh back's like the worst because you know, James Kahn, the actor, he'd come in the golds and loveliest guy. We talk about the Sydney Swans. He had back surgery, and that one at Jinx chasing him, but that's what ended up killing him. They fucked up his back that bad. He was on oxygen and that. And like I said, when I was in Venice, not the time before last, I got to see him and he was on oxygen and that. And it's one of those things I was upsetting to see him because he'd wasted away a bit from the thing, but uh still not it was still nice to talk to, and I was glad I got to talk to him again. But two weeks later he passed away. But that all stemmed from fucked up back surgery, like the back when there's so many nerves, it's so imagine being a imagine being a back surgeon or a brain surgeon where fucking not even a millimeter, you touched the wrong thing, and the person's fucked. I'm like, my god.

SPEAKER_10 45:18

Well, his first his first surgery that he had, it was it was a simple surgery. I had it, and it was um herniated discs with spinal stenosis, and it was just gonna remove uh the herniated disc and it was gonna be replaced by bone. But the first surgeon actually put uh the bone discs that was that were too wide for his vertebrae. So he literally had he literally stretched out the actual vertebrae, which compressed even more nerves and made more damage than than good. He just wanted to get taller for classic, didn't he? I can't say this. I can't say this. Um, when he went back into the hospital this time around, so he had then he had a second surgery, and then he went back into the hospital this time around. When he went back into the hospital this time around, he found out that he had three broken ribs. So, um, so and he doesn't even know how that happened.

SPEAKER_03 46:08

So uh thing is sometimes it's not even the surgery, it can be what happens after, like with Fletch, you can get a surgery, then the blood clots or some infection. That's the scary part, it's the shit after the surgery.

SPEAKER_10 46:20

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SPEAKER_03 46:58

He was a But the thing is too, if you're with a partner who married or girlfriend and they know that's what you do for a living, yeah. Right. Yeah, I'm sure I'd love you to be there, but you know, that's what you do, and what you're doing is making a living for you and that child when it's born. Because what happened to the old days when your wife would just have a baby, the father would be outside the room. Now they want you in there, they want you to see that vagina get stretched open, they want you to video it for the family to watch. It's like, who wants to see that shit? Nobody wants to see that shit.

SPEAKER_10 47:28

Nobody wants to see the two-headed lady, nobody wants to see that shit.

SPEAKER_03 47:32

And I'm thinking, is that shit gonna snap back, or do you have to throw in a leg of lamb and pull the bone out and give you a reborn? Because that shit ain't gonna be tight with that watermelon head coming out.

SPEAKER_10 47:42

Well, today they do a C sec C-section every time.

SPEAKER_03 47:45

I guess they complain I got the scar, I've got to pull my bacon over this. I gotta go there. We've got to get bigger tits to keep the attention off the scar.

SPEAKER_10 47:55

Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, that's what we're gonna do. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Hi, Wendy. Don't worry, Wendy. If you decide to get bigger boobs, we'll all start a goal go fund me and we'll pay for it. Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_01 48:11

Sure, that no one would mind.

SPEAKER_03 48:16

There is a point though, women do go too big because I see these girls who are like Wendy. John, there is a thing is too big. It's like get them to match your body, like some just go crazy. I got 500, I should have got 900, then they get 900, I should have got 13. It's like now you just look ridiculous. I know John's getting turned on right now. Shut up.

SPEAKER_10 48:37

Actually, uh you need to overfill, you need to overfill the same. That's terrible. That's terrible.

SPEAKER_03 48:43

Wait, wait, wait, and then you'll go out with your girlfriend, all the guys are like this, they're like, I don't like them looking at your boobs where they're fucking triple K.

SPEAKER_10 48:52

Why the fuck are they wait? Wendy, Wendy, listen to this on my other channel. Uh this we had four stars. I know. Yeah, this girl that I used to uh I had on, I interviewed, she was a Instagram, whatever. She did OnlyFans, they were the same shit. She has these, she has these breast implants, right? That were not permanent. And they would no, they actually had a valve. I swear to you, I swear she could choose her size for the day, or what she would go, and she would go bigger every couple of months because she had to stretch out the skin. So she would go, and at first, you know, at first it would be um, oh, here's Mac truck. Look at that. Oh Mac, I was just telling, I was just telling Wendy a great story.

SPEAKER_01 49:39

You got right into the conversation just at the right thing.

SPEAKER_03 49:42

A girl, a girl who inflates her boobs. I went to get gas in my ties at the garage, and then this girl there with a tube up a shirt, fucking pumping her boobies up. I couldn't do my ties on the coverage.

SPEAKER_00 49:52

Is this the thing? Is this a guy?

SPEAKER_10 49:54

Yes, because they originally used it for women that had uh you know a double massectomy and they got uh breast implants and they have to stretch out to get the permanent ones, right? But then what they realized is there were girls that like just wanted to go bigger and bigger. So they made these implants that you can go every so often, and you could you could like basically there's a valve in the implant, and you could just add more saline solution. So every couple of months, as long as the skin stretches out, you can go bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. Wait, I think she went up, I think she went up to a peacup.

SPEAKER_03 50:28

I got I got a private, I got a private question, John. A private question just between you and me.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:35

Black guy, black guy's excluded. Can you get that for your cock?

SPEAKER_01 50:39

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_10 50:40

Unfortunately, I don't think so, man. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 50:42

I can't put on my cock, I can't pump my cock up like that with an ear shoe.

SPEAKER_10 50:47

Oh, by the way, we have another birthday. Uh Mac Truck had a birthday when yesterday or the day before, Mac?

SPEAKER_04 50:52

Uh, the day before.

SPEAKER_10 50:53

The happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. We're selling I'm celebrating with some flips.

SPEAKER_03 50:59

I think I actually think it's Greg Valentino's birthday today, too. He's 66. I think so. Oh, tomorrow. It's today or tomorrow. He's 66. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_10 51:09

I gotta I gotta message him on Instagram.

SPEAKER_04 51:11

Yeah, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_10 51:12

Um, but how you doing, Mac? How's everything going? Thank you for showing up, by the way. Really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_04 51:17

Oh, yeah, dude. I was tearing up tearing the streets up trying to get to the house.

SPEAKER_10 51:22

Were you on your bike?

SPEAKER_04 51:24

No, I was in a car.

SPEAKER_10 51:25

Oh, okay. All right, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 51:29

You're a black guy, you're a black guy in California. Don't do that in your car. I don't want to see you on YouTube, all right.

SPEAKER_04 51:35

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Lee, I left the windows clear too, so they could see my oh, okay. That's good then. That's good.

SPEAKER_02 51:41

No excuses.

SPEAKER_04 51:43

You ever watch it like a professor?

SPEAKER_10 51:46

Mac, you ever watch any of those body cam footages that's that are on Instagram and and TikTok? They're all over the place now. Wendy, do you ever see any of these things?

SPEAKER_01 51:54

See what?

SPEAKER_10 51:55

They have they have now after the uh George Floyd thing, all cops are have to wear body cams now.

SPEAKER_01 52:03

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_10 52:03

Yeah, so they literally they literally have channels. I'll send one to you. They literally have channels on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, just dedicated, just dedicated to body cam footage.

SPEAKER_01 52:15

I've gone down that rabbit hole before, and I'm like, why am I still watching this? What is this person?

SPEAKER_03 52:20

All I can say is not all I can say is no matter the race, no matter what, all I can say is I'm gonna get it put on t-shirts. Comply, don't die. Because you're not gonna win an argument with a cop. There's no use arguing, there's no use going through that shit. Just do as he said, even if you've done nothing wrong, sort it out later. Just do as you say. Because if you get an asshole cop, you're not gonna win an argument. So just comply, don't die.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

I don't know what it is. I don't know what the fascination is. When I when I go, you know, you're a blonde with big titties.

SPEAKER_03 52:55

Here's the ticket. I'll change my mind. All right.

SPEAKER_01 53:00

Go ahead, Wendy.

SPEAKER_10 53:01

What were you gonna say?

SPEAKER_01 53:02

It's it's you know, it is interesting to me that we go down these rabbit holes. Why do we? We're on Instagram and we're we go down these rabbit holes. There's this new thing, it's like minute-long storyline that goes meow, meow, meow, meow, and it's like have you seen them? What the hell are we watching?

SPEAKER_00 53:22

I don't even get it, but I've wiped it.

SPEAKER_04 53:25

Yeah, the the strawberries have be cheating and shit.

SPEAKER_01 53:28

Yes, those things like the things.

SPEAKER_10 53:32

And explain this, explain this. What is this?

SPEAKER_04 53:35

When they're it's like fruits and vegetables, right? Yeah, and like let's say the girl is a strawberry and she has a guy and he he's just shit broke, right? Yeah, with another guy that has money, cheat with him, and let's say he's a cucumber. She'll lie and tell the boyfriend she was pregnant by him and she'll have a cucumber baby, but the boyfriend is a banana.

SPEAKER_07 53:58

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 54:01

Are you saying that Carl Simpson was with are you are you saying are you saying that Carl Simpson was with a watermelon?

SPEAKER_04 54:10

Hey, listen, you have to see it.

SPEAKER_00 54:19

You would be like, What the hell are you talking about?

SPEAKER_08 54:21

Yeah, no, I know so speaking of this speaking of body camp. Did you see the one about tiger woods? Oh, it is drunk. He's like, he's like, Oh, I was just on the phone with the president.

SPEAKER_10 54:31

Yeah, like what the fuck are you calling me for? Did you see how fucked up?

SPEAKER_03 54:37

It could have been Chiman, he was on the phone with could have been present.

SPEAKER_04 54:42

Yeah, that was a motorcycle club. This is what you do.

SPEAKER_10 54:47

Next time you're in the ape.

SPEAKER_06 54:49

Hold on, next time you're in the ape. Hold on. Okay, Rich, what were you gonna say? What about you see the one with Vince McMahon speeding to get to a car?

SPEAKER_10 55:00

Just trash that car, and they're like, and he just walked and he holy shit. Yeah, unfucking believable, man. Unreal. What happens to these people that that make so much money?

SPEAKER_03 55:12

Just watch it at the airport though. I I like watching people at the airport because everyone's on their phones, and if someone's sitting near me or I'm sitting beside them, there's this one girl watching TikTok, and half an hour she's scrolling, and all she was watching for half an hour was people doing this. It's like people pulling faces, and I'm like, the world's going fucking retarded. She just keeps scrolling, and it's like people pulling stupid faces. I'm like, we're going backwards, we're like devolving as humans. We're we're going this way. It's like they built the pyramids, they built the pyramids. We couldn't build a fucking sand castle with a bucket today. I'm like, what the fuck's what the fuck's going on?

SPEAKER_10 55:54

It's like you know what my guilty pleasure is? I'm totally not gonna lie. I I I love watching these reaction videos where it's like Gen Z or Young or Young Millennials or or Gen Z watching movies because they think movies are Disney and and uh and and and superhero movies, and they've never seen Pulp Fiction, they've never seen The Godfather, they've never seen, they've never seen The Shining. And to see their reactions of a movie like this, they can't even understand that they actually made a movie like this. Like they them watching Full Metal Jacket is they're like they are basically dramatized forever. It's unfucking believable.

SPEAKER_03 56:36

Have you seen have you seen have you seen the ones where they do reactions to like just old shit where they're watching people use dial phones or they go on the log online and it's like two minutes later, you get online or you get a fax screw that like they're watching this fax paper come out with writing on, they're like, What's that? How's how's it is that a printer? It's like some of the shit we use back then or a pager, finding a payphone. They're like, Oh, I think I've seen payphones somewhere, but I don't know if they were I've seen high school kids trying to figure out how to use a rotary phone.

SPEAKER_10 57:11

I saw that one.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

Yeah, the best ones, the best ones actually were so when reality TV first came out, it was like people they were like just trying everything. I mean, this the shit that was happening back then would not fly now without like woke culture. There were shows that was so messed up, like there was this one called The Swan. They would take a girl who remember that. Remember that, and then they would they would hide her out for like six months and give her like a job and like make like do like all these surgeries on her body and her face, and she had to hide out, she couldn't even see herself, and then they would six months later after she was she would get she would be revealed and see herself for the first time. How effed up is that? We watched this stuff. I mean, we I went in as Michael and came out as Michelle. We had one where they had um women getting ranked in front of a live audience, like on a scale of one to ten, and then like the channel of judges would say, Oh, you're a three, and then break down all her flaws.

SPEAKER_03 58:19

If she had to stand there in a bikini listening to this, I mean this stuff happened, like this is a real but that was okay because across the bottom of the screen it would be like if you don't feel good on that caught a suicide hotline on such and such number that kid, what's his name?

SPEAKER_10 58:34

What's his name? Clavicular or what's his name? He's been on um other podcasts, but he does rate girls and he's very honest, and he breaks down like his for their facial structure and whatnot, and just destroys these fucking poor girls.

SPEAKER_04 58:57

Like mixed, like he uh biracial dude.

SPEAKER_10 59:00

No, no, this is a guy, this guy's white. He like punches himself, he punches himself in the face.

SPEAKER_01 59:08

He gets he, but Lee, you would mog him.

SPEAKER_03 59:11

Isn't that word? That word, that word mog and stuff.

SPEAKER_08 59:15

It's like morgan, it's like yeah, and you know who he is, right?

SPEAKER_01 59:19

All day.

SPEAKER_08 59:19

Yeah, I say he sounds familiar.

SPEAKER_10 59:21

Yeah, I think he um he he uh he went on fresh and fit, yeah, and they had a group of girls, and he would basically was there just to rank the girls and just to shoot.

SPEAKER_03 59:30

Isn't he going through um court right now because he ran those people over in the car?

SPEAKER_10 59:37

Um, if you're gonna run anybody over in in in in any state, make sure it's Florida. And then uh because the guy was coming after him, so he he just took off and and the guy ran him over, so it technically it's self-defense in Florida, right? And he kept recording the whole time. And um, and then he also some someone recently he volunteered for somebody to choke him out, and for some reason, I don't know why. And the guy choked him out, and then he went into like convulsions and having like uh a conniption and whatnot in the middle of the stuff. Yeah, dude, like I don't like I would love that for this channel to blow up.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:15

Stop at you, it's enemy on stop.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:18

I would love this channel to blow up and uh me be the next mixed strength and power, but I'm not gonna fucking have anybody choke me out so I can get views. That's not happening.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

Hey, hey, John, John Nashville, never never say never join me.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:34

If you were to choke me out, we're fighting. That's I'm just letting you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:37

Oh John, there you now now you're really now. You're really giving now you're really giving me a hot dick.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:45

What about getting smothered?

SPEAKER_10 1:00:47

Oh no, that'd go by a chick. Oh, I'd do that. I am, I am. I was kind of good.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:56

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:58

That's okay, John. If I see her smothering you, John, and you're passing out, I'll punch her in the face.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:03

It's when I was single, I paid for that. Are you kidding me? I was that no problem.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:07

I'll save you. I'll save you, John.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:10

When I was single, I was like, Yeah, okay, here you go.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:15

Yeah, there we go. No problem. Uh, but yeah, we lost one. Yeah, Rich. Rich has got bad connection all night. I don't know, I don't know what happened to him, but it is what it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:24

But uh he needs the slight person at a time.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:28

I don't I don't even like if when somebody gets too, you know, Mac, you know what I mean. I don't even like when somebody talks too close to me. You know, when a guy talks too close to me, I'm like, yo, dude, fucking back up.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:39

Tell Rich to sit in the room that he's closest to his neighbor's internet router, then we won't fucking lose him.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:46

All right, yeah, he's got I don't know what's going on with him. He's got uh but he said he moved into a new apartment, he's got construction going on. But I'm just glad that he showed up and he's in Canada.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:55

Well, we can excuse it, he's in Canada.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:57

Rich is a rich is a solid dude. Rich is a good dude. Believe me when I tell you, he's a good dude. Um, anybody that I invite back on the show uh is a good dude because I if if somebody comes on the show and they're a shithead, I they don't get an invitation. Yeah, Wendy, you dude.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:14

Yeah, I guess I'm just I guess I'm not a shithead.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:17

No, you're not. No, anybody me and Ian were talking about this the other day. Uh, anybody who comes on my show on a regular basis is as far as I'm concerned, is aces. Like, and believe me, I I I'm a pretty good judge of character, right? Uh, you know, so anybody who if you've seen somebody on here more than once, they're a good character, tip you.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:37

You're just a paid. I was gonna say you're a good judge of character, but you keep inviting me back. Oh, oh, why isn't my internet channel growling? Because you keep bringing me on, you fuck w I am the destroyer of all podcasts.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:59

I tried getting rid of you one time, you came back. I didn't have a choice. You forced it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:02

What is an experiment for a month? Don't bring me on, see if your viewers go up.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:09

Maybe that's why you're never invited on fucking RX Muscle anymore. Um, could be, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:15

Lee gets the views. He's like, if if you are somebody who does organized interviews as I do, I have had Lee on so many of my podcasts, and these are the type that I I really do my homework. I loved having Leon because I never had to do any homework, I never prepared. That was I would just go with it and it would get the most views, and it was the best.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:39

So John, the first time he had me on, he had a list of questions, and after about the first three, he goes, I don't know why I bothered fucking writing these out.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:47

And it just exactly what happened to him.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:50

That's why he started serious and sealing us because we're not talking bodybuilding, are we? I'm like, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:57

And then and then he like then finally he goes, All right, all right, all right, right. Ask me one of your questions. Go ahead, ask me one of your questions. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, get it. And then and then he would cut me off and go on to something else anyway. So but uh but um uh so Mac, did you decide what show you're doing this year? Uh nah, dude.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:15

Like, look, I went out to uh Vegas um this past weekend to go um go um visit Jay.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:23

Did you go to show him, didn't he? Did he show this week? Yeah, that's right. He did have a show, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:28

So I went out there, you know, because the last time we talked, he told me he wanted me to get up to 300 pounds and whatnot. Dude, I lost weight, so so I asked him because this weekend he was like, damn, Big Mac, you're big, but you're not big enough. He was like, yo, because my biggest problem, he says I stay too lean all the time. And when I when it's time to diet down, I lose the muscle. So I I look flat or whatnot. So he was like, I say, so I need to get fluffy. He said, Yeah, I'm like, dude, but I eat, I pretty much eat anything I want. He like, you gotta eat more. I was like, Jay, I don't think it's the eating. I think I need to probably start putting some slain in. I was thinking of slang in.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:11

I was thinking the same thing. I'm just disgusted that the bowl cup you went to Jay Cutler and not Lee Priest. Um I'm just I'm just disgusted at this. Well, what kind of advice would you give them, Lee? Jesus Christ, do it. Go fucking eat everything inside, graze like a cow, no set meals. You eat a meal, say you have your steak and rice an hour later, bowl of ice cream and a bag of cashew salt and nuts. Then you'll have your chicken and vegetables, and then you'll stop at McDonald's and get a couple of burgers and a caramel sundae. It's just like you're grazing all day long. That's what's what you do, right, Mac?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:49

Yeah, so listen, so like with my body, when I jack the gear up, I lose weight, right? So yeah, man, it's weird as shit, dude. Like, I take shit a woman should take, right? So I I try to bump the um Tess up to a thousand. I try to bump the EQ up to 800. I bumped the DECA up to 750 and I started losing. So I l I lost like within its four weeks, I lost almost 30 pounds. Damn. Yeah, it's fucked up. So and it's weird. Like I'm old as shit. Like I shouldn't be burning up like that. So now I lowered it. I lowered all my chems down again. So now I'm about to throw some trend E in for four to six weeks because I gotta get that boost to put me back where I where I lost. Because if I can gain what I lost, then I can realistically be looking at something in August.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:41

Alright, good.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:43

I say, dude, I lost two, three times now, not at my best. I'm gonna lose at my best. Because then I know, like, okay, but you're getting your ass kicked because you're not um you're not performing well, like that's the most embarrassing shit in the world.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:59

Don't even think about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:01

Once you sign that fucking contract, you gotta nearly die to pull out of the show. Yeah, yeah, listen again. Yeah, really? I was like, Well, I guess I'm about to go out here and look like you're gonna stop showing up, fat or not.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:19

It's okay. I I pulled out of shows before and got fined and suspended. It's okay. You get it, you get over it.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:25

No, we know Lee, we know Lee, you the reason why between y'all are the reasons why it is a blacklist.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:36

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm white. I'm white, white, I'm white. Why am I on the blacklist? Hey, you don't want to goddamn blacklist.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:43

Chris is why it's a list. You the reason it's black. He's the president of the list. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:51

Lee don't give a shit. To all my people on my list. Welcome. Thank you. That's right. We're the real, we're the real people on the blacklist.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:01

Listen, listen, that's how much of a dick Lee is. He knows Jay don't like fish. He's trying to force a fucking fish patty down his throat.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:12

Jay just needs Jay just needs to lighten up. He's too fucking perfect. You know he's not like that when the camera's off. Come on. I'm trying to bring him out of his shell. Cut his own all up and his fucking shirts, right? Sitting there all prim and proper, never swears. Fuck you, Jay.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:28

Yeah, hammer cut off your ghetto as shit.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:33

He had Jay eat McDonald's, and then he had he had Phil eat Donald.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:37

Eating Krispy Kreme. Yeah, I'm bringing down one Mr. Olympia at a time. Don't worry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:42

I haven't had a crispy.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:44

Hey, Jay's gonna be. Jay's gonna be in Nashville. Jay will be in Nashville, so he might get a drink forced down his throat. Might as well drag him to karaoke.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:54

Are you gonna get us Krispy Kreams?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:57

I can't promise that, but I can guarantee I'll be getting you zoom cocktails and getting his drunk. That's for sure. I'm in. I'm in. All right. Where will you where will you be on the weekend of the fifth and the sixth, Rich or Ian or Matt? Because um in case something goes wrong and we need bail, I need to call somebody, which will be on standby.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:18

I'll be stand by. Stand by actually standby.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:27

Jay will be there. Who Jay Cutler will be there? Uh yeah, I don't know him on a on a on a regular basis. He know I had him on, I interviewed him once, but I'm not gonna say that like he knows who I am. Uh uh, so it'll be a really good time. If and if you guys could make it out there, please come. It's because it's gonna be. Yeah, he'll probably come. I I uh I already told him we're gonna be there. He's like, You want to stay at my house? I was like, No, no, that's fine. Um, I'll get a hotel. I don't want to stay, I don't want to be around that thing of his. I don't wanna I don't want to get too close. You know what I mean? You might that's fine. Anyway, uh, gentlemen and ladies, thank you very much. Uh ladies, you call these fucking ladies now.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:14

He's just it's just including me in that lady's group that's everything.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:18

Gentlemen and one lady, thank you very much for coming on, Mac. Thank you very much. Uh, Rich, Ian, Ian. Uh, you're a great friend, Rich. You're you're a good dude, man. Lee, of course.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:29

And how does it feel being 50, John? How's it feel? How's it feel being 50?

SPEAKER_10 1:10:34

I'll answer that question. And Wendy, thank you. All the love and respect to you for coming on again. I really appreciate it and dealing with this crazy podcast. You know, it I don't really I don't it doesn't fucking bother me. Like, I don't think it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:45

Oh, wait, wait till you go to the gym, then you'll notice that one year difference.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:49

Yeah, like I I went to oh, I went to Iron Culture today, uh Ian. And uh I think they're out of their minds with the prices, they want$150 a month. I was like, Are you at a fucking and that was the cheap package? The other one was$200 a month, and I was like, And what and what do you get with that? What do you get with that? I mean that the equipment's great, but I'm therapy and no, so it's like now thanks anyway.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:16

Oh, you went to the old to the new one of West Orange?

SPEAKER_10 1:11:18

Yeah, I went to the new one west orange, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:21

Okay, a hundred and equipment's great old rusty dumbbells, a barbell, a torn bench can do the same shit as this fancy and there were people there, and I'm like, You agreed to this?

SPEAKER_10 1:11:33

Jesus Christ. Imagine if you trained there, if you ought to snooty up stuck people. That's exactly what it felt like. That's exactly what it felt like.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:39

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:41

All right, guys, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Macy's birthday. Thank you very much, Richard.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:46

Happy birthday, happy birthday, happy to broke.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:50

Thank you, guys. Uh, I will speak to you guys soon.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:53

Yes, yep.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:55

I'm gonna hold my breath till we do.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:57

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:59

Happy birthday, John, and it was so nice to hang out on you guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:04

All right.