Shooting the Breeze with John Livia

Join me as we discuss the crazy drug protocols young bodybuilders are doing and why so many are dying at such young ages.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Ah, what's up, guys? This is a very special shooting of the breeze because I am on my own. Lee has been really busy traveling. So, right now, as we speak, Lee is traveling back to Australia from Italy. He was in Italy for the last week and a half or something like that. And it's been um crazy the time difference. He did come on one time because at the Italy is six hours ahead of me. So when I record this at 8:30 or 9:30, it's either 2.30 or 3:30 in the morning in Italy. So it it he did stay up late one night, um, which of course I'm very grateful for. But it's been difficult. So he'll be back Wednesday, and hopefully I know he's gonna be traveling, but basically he'll be back. It's just we have to uh you know deal with the his his traveling schedule. Anyway, this is shooting the breeze series is telling us bodybuilding special shooting the breeze today because we're gonna be talking about this kid, uh Gabriel Gainley. Um let me just bring this up. Let me let me not beat around the bush here, okay? Um let me not beat around the bush here. I'm going to bring this up, and Amana Db did a very short video on uh Gabriel Gainley, and he had some sources tell him what he passed away from. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

All right, guys, another young bodybuilder gone way too soon. When is this gonna stop? Okay, I believe um he passed away of too much insulin. So if you used a lot of insulin, you don't get the right amount of carbohydrates in a certain amount of time, you can go to a coma. And he obviously didn't wake up from a coma. That's what I'm hearing, and people are speculating, but I believe that's what it was from. Listen, this new young generation of bodybuilders, um, that's why on our podcast, Iron OGs, and I and people will say, Oh, you're just hating on the younger generation because this and that. No, they're literally taking 10 times the amount that I was taking in the stage. I started competing at 18. I even won first my first four shows on a very, very tiny minimal amount of stuff. Now these guys are starting out of the gate on you know, 10 I use the GH, you know, uh 50 I use insulin, insane stuff that these top professionals aren't even doing. But you got guys on TikTok, IG spewing out all this misinformation that these guys think they have to take all this stuff. Stop listening to these younger guys on social media telling you this horrible advice and coaching people. I've coached people for 20 years. I've had I've never had one sick client ever. This guy's 22 years old. You can see all the acne and all that. You know, I mean, I mean, he was obviously abusing everything. And this is not just one guy, this is plenty of people have passed away at a very young age. Even some of my best friends have passed away from abusing their body with all these chemicals. What people don't understand to get a good physique, we used to build it in 10 years. These guys are trying to rush it in like two to three years. And what's happening? This is happening. I've consulted with many young bodybuilders, and I decided not to coach them because they were already taking way too much stuff. They were literally taking more than the top pro bodybuilders out there. And a lot of them don't believe, like, you know, certain people like me, like, oh, y'all are just lying, y'all didn't come off. We're gonna come off three to four months at a time. Nothing, nothing, no crew, blasted crews or none of that stuff. We would come off. And you tell that to gu uh to guys that today and they think you're crazy. They don't believe it. Well, this is the outcome, and this is sad for his family and uh, you know, for him, you know, these guys, a lot of times they don't they don't know what they're doing at all. They're just following blindly what other people are doing, telling them uh a lot of the social media culture is very extremely toxic. A lot of these influencers are terrible to listen to. That's why you need to hire a good experienced coach as myself. And I'm not trying to plug myself now because I don't even have much spots left open to take that many competitors in. And when you get some of these guys, um, and like I said, you talk to them, they're already on so much stuff, they're not even coachable. And they think more is better, and it's not. So rest in peace to him and his family, guys. I believe it was an insulin overdose, took too much insulin, but um, guys, this has to stop, and that's why I preach constantly to the younger generation.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

All right. So that was Armand's take on it, and I agree with him 100%. I tried to get him on today, but he wasn't able uh to come on. So this there's several moving parts here, there's three specific moving parts. Um, the first part is his age. Now, here's what I mean by that. When you are in your early 20s, you almost think you are immortal, and you never think anything terrible is gonna happen to you. Okay, so you do stupid things, and you know, 80-90% of the time you bounce right back. It's never a problem. But at the same time, what's happening here the other moving part is how accessible all these compounds have become. It is very easy to get a lot of anabolics for uh very affordable prices, very easy to get GH, very too easy to get insulin, very easy to get all these peptides, very to eat, very easy to get testosterone, very easy to get trend. You go down the list, and it is extremely easy. Back in the uh late 90s, early 2000s, when I was growing up, and I was in my um 20s or my early 20s, and I was, you know, it wasn't that easy getting this stuff. Whatever was available basically in the gym that you went to, that's what you had, you know. Um, so it there were times that that I looked for something, I wanted something, and it just wasn't available. It wasn't there. We didn't have the internet, we didn't have uh social media. We it it was basically what you could get, right? So the accessibility of the drugs is one thing, plus the age. I am I am very much convinced that if that a young man is not mentally prepared to deal with such success overnight. You're talking about a 18, 19, 20, 21, 22-year-old kids that become overnight successes because of social media. Don't get me wrong, it's few and far between, but it does happen. I don't think they have the fortitude, the fortitude, the mental capability to deal with this success, to deal with the money. You're going from having nothing, because nobody, no young man at 20, 21 years old has a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. Even if they have, you know, even if their families are independently wealthy, you know, that might be the only way if your family is independently wealthy, uh, but that is, you know, extremely rare. Most kids, at most men at 21, 22 years old, they don't have anything, they don't have two quarters to rub together. And the majority of men make the majority of their money over the age of 40. And I think that is natural because once you get to 40, you are able to deal with life better, you're able to deal with responsibility better. You have worked 20, 30 years to make that money, and you're not willing to blow it. It didn't come easy. Because when you have a 20-year-old kid or a 21-year-old kid or a 22-year-old kid, and the money comes overnight, it seems like it's came easy and that it's never gonna stop. And that's the mentality. Now, put this into play. Yes, um, the the rumors are that he took too much insulin, and I'm sure he was taking too much insulin, too much growth, too much test, too much trend, so on and so forth. He had, I don't know, over two million uh followers on Instagram. Very, very famous Brazilian fitness influencer. So, what else comes with that? Well, money comes with that, sponsorships come with that, big money comes with that, fame comes with that. So then what happens? What are the elements of that in a young man? Well, you it could go to your head, you could think that you're better than what you are, and that youth could think that you could do things that the normal person can't do, and that on top of just these the regular 20-something year old mentality of feeling like it nothing's gonna happen to me. So, you know, 22 years old, you don't think anything's gonna happen to you. You could I could take a 10 I use a growth, nothing's gonna happen. I mean, uh, you know, I'm 20. It is a you are wired differently at that age. Now you have money, you're young, you're jacked, now put into the put into this whole chaotic cycle of girls, nightlife, drinking, um other drugs. I'm not saying that this is what happened. I'm saying that this is generally what happens when a young man makes money overnight. That's why you see so many athletes, football players, fighters, uh, NBA players. That's why you see them go broke. Because they don't understand how to deal with the fame, the fortune. They don't even know the difference between an accountant and an accountant and a um uh you know, a money manager. They don't know the difference between the two, right? They think it's one person to, you know, they they they they don't know who to trust. The majority of young men that make money and that have that have good futures, have people around them that truly love them and look out for them. Like family or maybe um, you know, mentors, so on and so forth. So this kid dies young, and clearly, I'm not saying that it wasn't due to the anabods. Clearly, um, the rumors are that he was doing way too much. Let's go back to when I was a kid. First contest I ever did, I ever the first contest I ever competed in, 1999, Mr. Staten Island. I was in my I don't know, I was 21 or whatever the fuck I was. I don't remember. This is what I was using, and it wasn't it was because two things were a problem. One, money. I didn't have any. I was a young man, and two, whatever was available was what I had. Uh I was using pink D balls, which I know now are Tyrannible. They were five milligrams each. I was using two a day, 10 milligrams. Uh Primobolin and Windschule. That was my cycle for my first contest ever. I wasn't using a testosterone, I wasn't using GH, I wasn't using insulin, I wasn't using anadrol, I wasn't using trend. I didn't even know what it what trend was. You know, now back then it was parabolin. And right after, you know, I came off everything every year for a very long period of time, especially in my 20s. And again, it wasn't because it was what was funny is that most of most of the time it was because of money because I just didn't have enough money to buy it. But you know, I remember I would be off gear all winter. I mean, for six months, I wouldn't touch anything. Nothing. Nothing. I would train natural, and then like the springtime, or I'd buy, I'd get something, right? I would, I would get like I would get uh decker, I would get fucking test, or I would I would get something, right? That's what I would do. I am 50 years old now. I still come off, and I'm not even on this is, and I'll be very, very honest with you guys. I am on four units of growth and I am on 500 milligrams of testosterone. Every year after Labor Day, I come off the testosterone, and I come off basically everything. Okay. I go on HCG and Clomid, kick my natural test levels up, which is not as good as it was back when I was young. And then I get my blood work done, and I make sure my blood work is fine. And then I go to a cardiologist and I make sure my cult my heart is in good shape. Okay. And then I usually wait till after the holidays. So September, October, November, December. So from eight to 12 weeks, I'm not on anything. Now, because I am 50 now, I do still use TRT because my natural test levels are low because I'm I'm older. So I during that time I will use 100 milligrams of sipinate a week. Okay. Um, and then what I do is I go to the gym and I'm gonna wear a sweatshirt anyway because it's cold. And I um I so the sweatshirt is for two things. The uh because it's cold, because it's the winter time, and because I really don't want to see my body in the mirror because you know I don't look as good as when obviously you're on, and so on, so forth. And then after then, I usually go back on growth and testosterone, um, and I kick the testosterone levels up higher. But you know, um I am 50, so at this point I use test, they use GH. That's all I use. That's it. Now, the other moving part that's going on here is social media. There are a lot of YouTube channels, Instagrammers that are very TikTokers that are very irresponsible. Um, they say to do these crazy cycles, they say to do these crazy things, and it seems very oh that, oh, oh, that's how you get big. Oh, you have to do these crazy amounts. And then then you go to a channel like mine when I have you know somebody like Paul Barnett on or Jason Arms, and we talk about what you should really be doing, and it doesn't appear to be too sexy. You're like, ah, you know, he's telling me not to do much and to come off every year. And you know, uh so-and-so channel tells says I need to you do a thousand milligrams, 1500 milligrams of testosterone, 10 units of GH, and I don't have to come off, and that's why he's disjacked. Uh and and in their heads, in their young brain, their young developing brain, that appears sexy. It's the equivalent of opening up a strip club versus investing your money in a um Fortune 500 mutual fund. One is guaranteed, but it's not sexy. The strip club is sexy, but it's not guaranteed. Okay, that that's the equivalent. So when you're young, you're attracted to these over-the-top and ridiculous fucking social media influencers, and even if they don't talk about the actual amount that they use, just seeing you, just just looking at them, just seeing them, just you go, oh, they must be using a ton. And believe me, there's plenty of there is plenty of podcasters out there that are irresponsible, that are don't care as long as they get clicks, and I'm not one of them, and that's why my channel is growing slow. I'm not one of them. I'm not gonna sit here and tell a teenage kid, or even even in my real life, if a teenage kid comes up to me and he's below the age of 21, 18, 19, 17, 16, and he asks me about steroids, I just go, You're too young. You're too young. You don't even know how to eat right yet. You don't even know how to train right yet. You don't even know how to bench right yet. You're too young. Work on those things, work on your health and nutrition first, work on your your form first. You don't even know how to work out right. Don't worry about fucking, you know, steroids right now. I've never touched insulin, not once, ever. And the only time the first time I started using growth, I think I was 37 or 38. Yeah, 37 was before my last contest. I never used growth until my final contest. That's yeah, four units, four units uh uh uh a night. Okay, that's that's it. Um so you have a lot of different moving parts going on here, and I think that this is the problem with these guys that are dying at such a young age. The problem with these guys dying at such a young age, here's the another problem that nobody talks about is you see, we all know that Gabrielle Gainley died because he had a huge following. We all know Boston Lloyd died because he had a huge following. We all know Dallas McCarver died because he had a huge following. What about the young kids that don't have a huge following? I mean, most kids, I mean, 98% of kids don't have a big following on social media. The kids you don't hear about that are dead because they used way too much too many compounds, way too many, too, too many uh uh insulin, way too many peptides, way too many GH. What about those kids? Those kids get no attention, or they're overlooked, and I guarantee you there are kids like that that watch uh Gabriel Gainley, that watch the Boston Lloyd, that watched the Dallas McCarver, that watched uh that watched the Trent Twins, that watch Larry Wheels, that you know, you go down the list and they go, I gotta get jacked like that because I want to be fucking famous, I want to be on Instagram, I want to be on YouTube, I want to be jacked, I want to make money, I want all the girls, uh, you know, so this is what you have to do. And they want it overnight. So if they want it overnight, and this stuff is easily accessible and not as expensive as it used to be, because it's very easily accessible, well, then it's a it's a recipe for disaster. Because I guarantee you there are young kids that are dead because of the same reason we just don't know about it, because they didn't have two million followers on Instagram. Guaranteed, it's all 100%, right? Guy, if I have any young listeners out there, please when you go on YouTube, when you go on Instagram, when you go on TikTok, listen to the guys that have been in the game a very long time, listen to the guys that know what they're talking about. Don't listen to the sensationalism, don't listen to the 21-year-old kid with abs. They know nothing. They're just gonna guide you down the wrong road. Listen to the Dave Palumbos, listen to the Armada DBs, listen to my channel, listen to uh uh Milo Sarchev, the Chris Acidos, the George Farris, the John Meadows, uh God rest his soul. But his his John Meadows content is still up there. The Charles Glasses, listen to those guys, the guys that have been in the game and the guys that understand what you're getting into, and the guys that will tell you the truth. Say, hey, look, you know, look, guys, the best analogy I've well, there's two really good analogies of steroids. The first one was from a woman, and uh, it was a female bodybuilder I used to be friends to. Her name was Cassie Hornbuckle. I've said this before. She said that anabolic steroids should be like makeup, just a little bit to highlight your great features. That's it. Okay. The other analogy was from Paul Barnett, which is great. He said it's like a motorcycle. It's dangerous. You're on two wheels. But when you're on the motorcycle and you're riding on two wheels and you ride without a helmet, you ride without a leather vest, you ride with sneakers, well, the odds are that you're gonna get hurt even worse if something goes wrong. But if you're on the motorcycle and you have a DOT-approved helmet and you have a leather jacket on and you have jeans and you have boots and something happens, at least you're protecting yourself. If you're going to use these drugs, you need to use them responsibly and you need to talk to people that will help educate you and guide you through this. You cannot just start blasting away at such a young age. The other thing is, you don't know if you have a genetic disposition for a heart problem, for a kidney problem, for whatever other kind of problem that may be there. And you don't know because you're too young. You don't go, let's face it, 21-year-old kids don't go to the doctor. They don't, they don't, they don't. They go to the doctor if they get fucking sick. That's it. If they break their arm, they go to the hospital. But they don't go to the doctor for checkups. They're 21. So if there is some kind of genetic issue with your heart that you don't know because you haven't gone to the doctor and it was not, you didn't label it yet, you didn't figure it out yet. And then on top of that, you're using all these drugs. I mean, think of it, it's just a recipe for disaster. It is, it is going to be a terrible situation. And we don't want to see young kids fucking guys. There is more to life. I know I sound, I oh, listen. I know I have my own bodybuilding podcast. But there's more to life than just lifting weights and looking good and getting in the gym. There really is, man. It should be a hobby, it should be fun, it should be health first. It shouldn't be an obsession to the point where you may die. That's not what this is all about. I know people that can't even have a conversation unless it's about bodybuilding. I'm like, come on, guys. I mean, you I mean, you don't have any other interests. That's all they want to talk about. It's unbelievable. They have no idea. I have another channel which has nothing to do with bodybuilding. We talk about it's we uh mob genre, adult entertainment genre, biker genre. I just did a video on um the Mexican mafia in 2026, who the shot callers are in prison and the Mexican Mafia in 2026. That one just came up. Bodybuilding to me was always a something that was a great hobby and was something that I've always loved, but I never really took that serious, with the exception of a short period of time in my 30s where I thought maybe I can get a pro card and then figured out real fast that I couldn't. I always kept it as a hobby. It never consumed me. It never consumed me. So if you are a young man and you want to find out what to do, how to do it, what to do, please listen to the podcast, listen to the people, the guys that have been around a long time, that are educated, that know what they're doing, that train people. Listen to the king. King Kamali's great. Amana TB's great. Dave Palumbo. I mean, I go down the list. Dave Palumbo always has Chris Asseto on. Chris is a genius, you know. Dave is just Milos, you know, the guys that are guy, I mean, uh, you know, the the Jason Arnes, the the Paul Barnett's, you know, me to a lesser degree, but me, at least I could guide you. At least I could tell you, please don't do that. You don't, you don't need trend blown, insulin, gh, IgF1 at 22 years old. You don't need it. The ends aren't gonna justify the means. You're not gonna see a major difference because you fucking use I guarantee you if Gabrielle Gainley cut his doses in half, he would look the same. I guarantee it. We don't want to see these young kids fucking die. And like I said, I guarantee you there are young there are young kids that are dying, but nobody knows who they are because they don't have a big social media following. I guarantee that's the case. Guarantee that's the fucking case, okay? And the the social media guys, I saw a video several years back, and I'm not gonna say who. And this guy had his own pre-workout, high STEM pre-workout. And you know, when you're supposed to take one scoop, and this guy filled his entire container up with water and was drinking it, passing it to his boy, his boy was drinking it, passing it back, and he was drinking it, their faces were beet red. And and I and I'm just like, do you realize how irresponsible that is? Because you know some 15-year-old kids are gonna fucking do that. Do you realize how irresponsible that is? It's it's unfucking believable, guys. You know, and they and and there are people that don't care, they don't give a shit as long as they're getting clicks, as long as they're making money, as long as they're getting views, they don't give a fuck about you. They don't care about you. And and and the and the and the worst part is the channels that do like this, um, you know, we're the channels that are growing slow. We're the channels that have a very slow follow following. Because I'm not into sensationalism. I'm not. I'm gonna keep it simple. I'm gonna keep it basic. Yeah, we go to the gym. Okay, what there is nothing, there is nothing fancy about bench pressing, there is nothing fancy about squatting, there was nothing fancy about deadlifting, there is nothing fancy about a hundred milligrams of testosterone a week. But because I'm not into this sensationalism, because I want my channel to be actually accurate with facts, and because I want my channel to be responsible, you know, I don't have 50,000 subscribers on YouTube. It seems it's backwards. It seems you know, it seems like the guys who are just telling you to do crazy things, they're the ones that should be penalized, right? So we have a lot of moving parts. We have accessible drugs, affordable drugs, social media guys that are irresponsible, telling these young kids, or or telling uh telling these young kids to do these crazy things, or or just young social media influencers, young fitness influencers that kids follow and want to look good. They have a short attention span, so they want it tomorrow, they want it today, they want it yesterday. They're not gonna wait, you know, five years, seven years. They don't they don't want to hear that, okay? You have that happening, you have the young mind happening where you know more is better. And how am I going to be how how is this young man going to deal with such success? You know they can't. You know they can't. I mean, you you know they can't, because they're not even smart enough to keep the sharks away. Even if you do, even if you do save your money and you're not stupid, you're too young to realize who to trust and who not. Sorry. You need to go through life and you need to get scars and you need to realize who's who. And that's why I truly believe that people that are over 40 and making the majority of money, which is the natural way, okay, that is the majority of men make the majority of their money over the age of 40. By that point, you understand life, you understand uh who to trust as an accountant, you understand who your financial advisor is, you understand who you could trust, you understand the type of people that you can keep away from, you understand that uh putting your money in a in a um Fortune 500, you know, mutual fund, even though not sexy, is intelligent. It's smart, okay. You know, opening a restaurant or a bar or a strip club or starting a clothing line, you know, is fucking a shit show. You know, you know there's too many of them, you know that there's too many, too many of those. It's just it's just overloaded. I don't know exactly what happened to this kid, but I know that this happening, this is happening far too often. And the scary part is it's happening far too often with people that we know, okay. How many of these of these kids that we don't know is happening to? You know, the kid that has 500 followers on Instagram that nobody knows, that's from fucking bumfuck Louisiana who nobody heard of. Right? I guarantee you to every one Gabriel Gainley, there's 10 of 10 of those kids. It's just the math works. 98% of people that go on social media don't become social media stars. I've been doing it, I've been doing this for six years. Two channels, I've been doing this for six years. Nobody knows who I am. I keep doing it because I love it. If I wanted to be an overnight success, good I failed, didn't happen. Didn't happen. Two channels constantly pumping out contact, didn't happen. So 98% of people that put go on social media, that put their content on social media, it goes nowhere. Okay, it it's it's it's a market that is completely flooded. You don't have people that are guiding these young kids, right? And this is why, I mean, go watch there was a there was a documentary called Broke, and it was about all the young sports players, NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, all these guys that were incredible athletes after college or after high school, that made a shit ton of money and now they're broke because they were too young to know how to deal with it. They were too young to understand that money isn't gonna be here tomorrow, that you need to save your money. They were going out, they were partying, they were investing in stupid shit. There is one story. Go watch, go watch it. It's called Broke. I'm not kidding. They had interviewed the former Jets head coach. I forget his name, don't remember his name. One of the football players who was in his early 20s, making millions of dollars, came to him and asked him about this investment opportunity. And here was the investment opportunity. During this time, it was like, you know, Sandy. We were having a lot of hurricanes, there were a lot of floods. So somebody came up with this idea and needed an investor. And he came to this NFL player that was on the Jets to see if he invested. And luckily, this guy went to his head coach to ask him if it's a good idea or not. Here was the investment. I kid you not. It was plastic that is wrapped around your furniture so that if there another flood happens, the plastic blows up like a balloon, covers your furniture, and just floats away. And then when the water goes down, you could go and get your furniture back. And it's it's it's not damaged because you had this plastic air bubble balloon around it. And he went to his head coach. I I I am not fucking kidding you, okay? I swear to you. And this kid was actually really considering it. If you if you make $10 million, if you have $10 million in the bank, this goes to any amount of money, take half of that, put it in an SP $500 mutual fund and leave it there for 30 years. Because this is what happens, it is the top 500 companies in the world. But you see, if one of those 500 companies falls out of the top 500, another one has moved up into it, so you don't lose money. Because it's always the top 500, but you're not gonna make 20% on the money, you're gonna make between three and five percent for the next 30 years. But it's it's your the money is going to be there, it's not sexy, it's not interesting, it's not fun, but it's practical, and nobody tells these young kids. And if somebody does tell these young kids, they're whatever. Because they don't realize that this is what's happening, so they want to fucking get jacked, party, make money. I guarantee you that this kid didn't even have to pay for his head so much of a fucking following. I guarantee you that he didn't have to pay for anything. There is one guy from New Jersey who has a huge social media following. I'm not gonna say who. He's from New Jersey, and I know for a fact that he doesn't pay for his anabolics. People just want to this particular person just wants to give it to him to say, I supply this very popular social media. So I guarantee you this kid didn't even fucking pay for it. Guaranteed. Guaranteed didn't even pay for didn't even fucking pay for it. And if he had to, he had so much money anyway at 22 years old, it didn't matter. I mean, he had over two million uh two million two million followers on Instagram. You are as a young man, as a young person, even as a woman, but especially as a young man, you are not supposed to have this much money at that age because you mentally can't deal with it. Believe me, look, I used to get paid a regular job and go out with my friends on the weekends, and by Sunday I was broke because I went out Friday and Saturday night all night, and my check was gone. I so you don't think that it just gets worse with more money? They just continue to spend more money. There was this one time I went out on a Saturday night and I was in the city, and I spent so much money, I didn't have money to get back by public transportation, to get home by public transportation. I was in my early 20s. I had to call my father to come pick me up in the in because I I spent my entire page, everything. So you have a lot of moving parts that are happening in this in this situation. But we what we what we want to do is we want to guide these young guys and girls and girls, the young generation, we want to guide them not to overdo it with these drugs because it is dangerous. You don't have to fucking blast yourself with all these different drugs, everything else around it that I actually talked about with Gabrielle Gainley, the fame, the fortune, the mentally inferior inferiority of dealing with all this whole situation. But the first thing is these drugs, these anabolics, because I guarantee you there are kids that don't have any money that nobody knows that are trying to do the same thing. And if they die, there's no fanfare, nobody knows who they are, the mother is crying in the corner, his family is a disaster, nobody has any idea who this person is. I guarantee for every one Gabriel Gainley, there's there's 10 young kids that nobody knows who who died the same way. It's again it's it's pure math. The numbers just have to be that way. I mean, I mean, I know kids in the NPC doing the NPC, their first show, they're doing GH, they're doing insulin, they're doing tests, they're doing trans. Like, Jesus Christ, man, it's your first show. You know, whatever, it is what it is, man. But it has to, I don't know how I'm gonna we have to start also calling out the social media influencers that are irresponsible and telling these kids or telling people just saying things and uh that are you should take this and you should take that, and this is fine, and that's fine, and the sensationalism. Well, we have to start calling these people out because these young kids gravitate toward the sensationalism, okay? They just do. All right, all right, guys. I'm gonna cut it short today. Lee's not here. Hopefully, Lee will be back on Wednesday. I wanted to dedicate this to this topic tonight. I hope I can make some fucking progress with this because this is ridiculous, man. We we lose too many young kids. I mean, too many young bodybuilders die way too soon from this bullshit like this. All right, guys, listen, have a good night, and I will check you soon. Later, peace.