Muscle Talk with special guest Goob! Ray Short allowed to compete as a convicted s*x offender? WTF!

Join John Livia and Lee Priest and special guest John "Good" Dorsey as they discuss Ray Short, a convicted s*x offender, who is still competing in the IFBB.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

All right, muscle talk. What's up, Big Lee? What's up, big John? Alright, so update on my on my Hyundai. So I I called them I called them today, and they're basically going to warranty like 80% of the engine. So shouldn't the warranty be a hundred percent if it's not the warranty? It should be a hundred percent. Yeah, but they they're just looking to fucking like so because there are certain things.

SPEAKER_05 0:31

But they're gonna get something out of it. We just can't give it all. We need something, right?

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Right, right. Yeah, exactly. So the guy was reading off a list of shit that they won't cover, spark plugs and but uh thermostat and all this other shit. And I just I cut them half off. I was like, dude, how much is it gonna cost me? And he's like, Well, including the uh what you owe for the breakdown, probably around three thousand. And I was like, All right, just do it, man. Because I figured I just I figured, you know, they're worn you down, John. You're a broken man, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I figured I was like, all right, three thousand dollars, and I literally have a brand new engine.

SPEAKER_05 1:10

I was gonna say so gonna be pretty much a new car again.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:14

And I, you know, I do a lot of driving, so I'm the work warranty though, the work they're doing, did you get a warranty? I don't know. I gotta ask. Or when you drive it off and see you later and it blows up.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

Yeah, right. Yeah, exactly. And I was like, all right, if I get a brand new engine, I could I could either drive it for another hundred thousand miles or trade it in in a year or two, and you know, whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_05 1:38

But I was just like, you know what, just fucking do it because asking when you get it back, is that um is this engine now to rebuilt? Is there a warranty? Maybe get rid of it, maybe get rid of they normally do normally to get a reconditioned engine or they redo it, they have to give you a warranty. So maybe keep it until that warranty is almost up and then get rid of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

Just fucking get rid of it. Yeah, exactly. And then um, I gotta see if they'll reimburse me for the uh for the rental. So yeah, that's uh that's another 800, but actually, it might only be because I'm I rented it, I'm gonna be returning the car early, so it might not be 800, but but it's just like you know, you gotta understand. I drive into New York City every day, so the car is a four-cylinder. Leah, I put twenty dollars, I got a half a tank of gas, it's front-wheel drive, it goes through the snow. It's practical. I bought it was the it was the first car I ever bought that was practical. So I'm like, you know, I was like, all right, that's that's it. I'll I'll I'll buy this car in the warranty. And when they I was like, I'll just fucking I'm at the point where I'd I'd just rather keep it with our engine instead of dumping it and buying a new car.

SPEAKER_05 2:50

I just got that Mazda CX30 little thing today as a rental. I'm like, this is nice, it's got the heads-up display. I can see how fast I'm going on the speedometer down here, right? If it's 60 or 80, it even turns red. So they really make sure you know how fucking fast you're going. I'm like, yeah, I think this is a nice little comfortable car, this little man. It's not bad.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

So so you were telling uh telling me before we started, um, why did you have to get a rental?

SPEAKER_05 3:16

I'm getting the Dart Vader machine wrapped in Star Wars Darfader and the big lightsabers on the hood, and then he's on the back where he's reaching out to Luke. But yeah, see, Luke is just reaching out of the Death Star. And down the sides, I'm getting, you know, the Thai fighter, the the spaceship or whatever fighter jet thing that he flies. Yeah, it's like a scene off to show it's like there's a Death Star behind in the background, and the fighter jet thing that Darth Vader flies, there's a couple of them heading away from it, and on the other side it's got them shooting lasers at other things. So it's going to be like rapidly.

SPEAKER_00 3:51

If you don't mind me asking, if you don't mind me asking, what is that uh costing it?

SPEAKER_05 3:56

About seven grand.

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Like a new paint job. Uh must be an ISBN leap break.

SPEAKER_05 4:06

Hey, it's a work vehicle, so it's tax deductible.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Oh, okay. There you go.

SPEAKER_05 4:10

Come tax time, come, come, come tax time, like when I got my car wrapped before. I got it wrapped with business logo decals.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 4:20

Because I'll put a little neutrafit sticker in amongst the Star Wars. It's uh business logo.

SPEAKER_00 4:25

Actually, you're right. Speaking of Nutrafit, uh, I used Kroba today to go to the gym. Very good, very good. Um, and actually, one of the somebody actually messaged me on Anabolic Academy. What are you gonna grab?

SPEAKER_05 4:40

I was just gonna grab something like that.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

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SPEAKER_05 5:07

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SPEAKER_00 5:10

Which one is that? Oh, that epitaphs that's the one I'm using. That's the one I that's the one I'm using.

SPEAKER_05 5:14

And then I sometimes take some out of this one.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

I didn't start that one yet. I have that one. I didn't start that one yet.

SPEAKER_05 5:20

And then I've taken a little bit out of this one.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

Okay.

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I'll just pick up one every day and just and this one, radmasse.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

Oh Jesus, you've just taken all of them. I started off with two.

SPEAKER_05 5:31

And I got this one, then I've taken this one. This like a Roma one.

unknown 5:35

Ah.

SPEAKER_00 5:35

And then I got the Meistatin blocker one. I wanted to use that one next. Then I got the GH one. I didn't need that. How are you doing, boys? What's up, Goob? What's happening, man? Uh black ops. That's for our sponsor vintage muscle. All right. First of all, uh, I gotta take you at the Olympia.

SPEAKER_05 5:53

I'm signing another sponsor, some TRT clinic is going to be sponsoring me. I'll be signing the contract at the Olympia.

SPEAKER_00 5:59

Oh, very cool, very cool. Yeah, what was funny is that in in the last video we did on Monday, um, somebody wrote, is Lee still with uh uh Young LA? And and actually somebody else responded, the young LA dumped him. And I and I wrote back and I was like, he's still with young LA. Nobody just because just because I trash some of their clothes.

SPEAKER_05 6:19

Look, they sponsor me, they pay me, but I don't have to like all their clothes. So if I want to burn their box, I can burn their fucking box. It's like I said, look, I like this shirt, I'll hold this shirt and say I think this one's shit, whoever designed it's a fucking retard. That's my opinion. If they want to get rid of me, they fucking can. I don't care. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_02 6:37

Well, that makes when you like something, that makes it all the more special now, doesn't it? It does. It does.

SPEAKER_05 6:43

Actually, when I'm honest like that with these unboxings, people like them all. They're like, I'm gonna buy this now because Lee said it's shit, so it actually has a reverse effect on something.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

Well, nothing pisses me off more than watching somebody get a sponsorship and then they loved every single one of their products. Everything. You love everything? Fuck off. Like, there's nobody, there's brands I work with. I don't love everything that they have. There's some things that I hate.

SPEAKER_05 7:05

Yeah, anyway, people like Lee, these are they're your sponsors. I said, yeah, they're my sponsors, but I'm not gonna lie to my fans and say I love audit clothes when I don't. I think some of them are fucking horrible. I'm like, the fucking Looney Tunes drop. Who do who fucking gives a fuck about Tweety Bird? I'm not wearing yellow, I'm not wearing yellow Tweety Bird sweatpants and topped at a fucking gym for fuck's sake.

SPEAKER_00 7:25

Yeah, I bought stuff from Young LA that I like and I bought stuff stuff from Young LA that I returned. I didn't like it. It is what it is, what it is. All right, let's introduce our special guest, uh John Dorsey. Everybody knows him as Goob underscore you two on Instagram. Should we call you John or Goob?

SPEAKER_02 7:41

I don't care. Uh I don't think anybody knows who's John who's John Dorsey though. Okay, so we'll call you.

SPEAKER_00 7:47

First of all, I want to thank you for coming on with for such short notice.

SPEAKER_02 7:50

Of course, man. I was on a uh at the airport about to fly to Charlotte. I'm getting a uh I'm finishing my back piece, see my tattoo orders for three days. And then there two, three hours go by. Oh, can't flight's canceled. Sorry. Why is the flight canceled? Air traffic control. What does that even mean, bro? So I have to catch a hundred. I live in New York City.

SPEAKER_05 8:09

They didn't come to work, they didn't come to work today.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

Oh, air traffic controller. I'm like, can I get a specific what does that mean? Oh, no, it's just canceled. Like, okay, I guess can I get rebooked? No.

SPEAKER_00 8:18

Unbelievable.

SPEAKER_02 8:19

No, no rebook, so I had to catch a hundred dollar Uber home. God bless New York City.

SPEAKER_00 8:24

Oh, you're in. I'm in I'm in Jersey. I'm enough. I'm in New York City every day, though.

SPEAKER_02 8:27

So the worst home. So here I am. I just got in about that's why I'm eating. I just got in about five minutes ago. Nope. Ready to go.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

All right. So let's get to the actual story. Today, uh, I was at work and Lee sent me this link of John doing this Instagram post about uh Ray Short. And I had no idea. I don't think anybody had any idea, and Goob was the one that actually broke the story.

SPEAKER_05 8:54

Even though didn't you read the story like two years ago, you said I read somewhere, and did he just get swept under the swept swept under the carpet? Because I didn't even hear about it then. It must have been shut down pretty quick.

SPEAKER_02 9:06

So I I posted it in 2023, and it was like a thing, and people knew about it. But the the unfortunate thing about my page is I'll do a Photoshop story and somebody's oh, share this, share this. Oh my god, look at this person, share this, share this, a million views. And then I'm like, this guy molested a child. 100k views, maybe, maybe, John. It's it's very frustrating, but you know, so that one didn't do too well maybe three years ago, and then uh I realized that he competed at the Masters Olympia and they let him, which yeah, they probably just didn't know, whatever. Yeah, and uh, so I I've been tracking him, and I was waiting till about two weeks out, and I was like, I'm gonna repost all this shit and give this guy the time of his life.

SPEAKER_05 9:49

I think it's fair because, like I said, I posted in your comment too, and I think the other people said too, they destroyed Sean Roden over a fucking allegation. Yes, an allegation they stopped, they shopped Mr. They stopped Mr. Olympia competing, he lost endorsements, that's right. So-called friends who fucking disowned him, like pretty much ruined him. Whether that, you know, stress led to some of his death, who knows? But that whole time he couldn't even fucking compete. But yet this guy has a conviction, it's there for everyone to see, and they're letting him fucking compete.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

No problem at all. Good. Why don't you why don't you tell the story about Ray Short? I actually, you know, I try to do my best as a YouTuber and podcaster. So when I saw your post, I actually looked it up myself. I couldn't find it on Google, but I found it on Duck DuckGo, and it popped right up on Duck DuckGo. And um I saw the the same thing that you saw, and plus a whole breakdown of actually what happened. So why don't you uh just tell us actually what Ray Short was arrested for and we'll get into it.

SPEAKER_02 10:50

So uh he was his actual crime is listed as indecency with a child by contact. Uh, I'm assuming that this was some sort of a negotiated bargain plea deal bullshit. Uh and he got a very, very, very stern sentence guy. It was a 15-year-old female that what I'm told is that he was in some sort of administrative position to her a coach or something like that, a 15-year-old girl. Uh that's what I'm told. I I I don't know if that's an actual fact. They usually are very uh curtailed about the details of the victim because they're children, obviously. But uh he got a really harsh sentence, guys, and this is this will really teach him to never do it again. He stole the innocence of a child, a 15-year-old, and at the time he's 31, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

31.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

31? Uh stole her innocence. Really harsh sentence, guys. Seven months of probation. And and and community supervision.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Yeah, I know. I actually read that originally he was supposed to he was supposed to do six years in prison.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

Yeah, but I mean, who knows? Who who knows who he knows? He did zero. He did seven years of of supervised probation, and then uh I'm assuming that he was only required to register as a sex offender for 15 years, which is extremely alarming for a sex crime where you're you know, you you've touched a child. Usually that's for life. Usually the ones where it's like fifteen years, ten years, that type of stuff is like you know, the random dude who gets caught pissing outside in front of a school or something, and somehow it gets he gets super fucked, and they're like, Okay, ten years, like what you know, you you you were an asshole through this whole thing, and they just throw the book at you. But in this case, like how uh it because if you look Ray Short up right now, you can't find his you can't find him on the registry any longer. So I'm assuming it was a 15 year registry, but thankfully I archived everything. And and we we never forget these things, Ray. We always we always keep these things, Mr. Short.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

And and also I also read that he moved to a different state and did not register as a sex offender at the new state that he moved to, if I'm accurate.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Uh that's possible. You may be confusing him um with somebody that I just covered, uh, a guy that was a professional wrestler that uh last year was required to register and did not in Florida.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

This was, let me see, okay. Ray Short's legal troubles c uh continued after his initial conviction in 2023. He failed to report his registration status. Oh, that might have been Ray Short.

SPEAKER_03 13:22

Oh, yeah, that might be a good one.

SPEAKER_00 13:24

Which led to further legal consequences.

SPEAKER_02 13:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought you were talking about 2025. That was a guy that I actually covered today, which is just crazy, right? Like you're you're required to. You have to, you have to be on this fucking registry. You your face has to be there. People have to be able to search it and know. They have to know what car you drive because you're a fucking creep and you fucked up. They have to know where you work, where you live, and this guy, oh no, I don't want to do that. And maybe he was thinking, oh, it's only a year or two. But if you look now, he's you can't find them.

SPEAKER_05 13:52

So I know he's doing, like he said, he's meant to be doing this Atlanta Pro. And isn't he also down for the Linda Murray thing and that, but yet the IFBB, someone said that um, I was reading on some of your comments on yours too, that the site was removing any comment that people put up about him, like on the Atlanta Pro site, was it? Or the really Linda Murray. Anyone that's commenting, anyone that's commenting on it's the posts are being removed.

SPEAKER_02 14:15

I don't know if that's true or not. Uh, what happens sometimes is things are filtered or they're in the hidden section at the bottom. Like I saw a lot of comments were hidden. And the reason those comments are hidden is because they say something like, Ray Short's a pedophile, or they might say something like, kill all pedophiles, or something crazy like Ray Short is a huge piece of shit that's you know, they say crazy stuff like that. You know, these people out there are saying these crazy things like that. I was just quoting them, by the way. They were just saying these crazy things, like kill all pedophiles, and it auto it puts it at the bottom and makes it a hidden comment. I know, right.

SPEAKER_05 14:51

So I've always said that hidden comments, but there were quite a few that said I posted something about it and my comment was removed, so whether they are going through removing them or Dynamite D, uh, David Dave, if you know David DeMosquita, he left a comment that I thought was very thoughtful, where he said, Hey, I'm at this show, I have competitors that show, I'm a coach that works on high levels competitive.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

And he said something like, My wife and children are not going to be there because you have a sex offender that's allowed to compete on stage. And it I mean it begs the question like, wow, John Roden, who ever it was Mr. Olympia, had an allegation from this, you know, the bikini girl, whatever. I don't know, you know, who knows what the conclusion of that would have been, but I didn't feel that it was a very, very, very strong case to begin with.

SPEAKER_00 15:31

No, when you actually broke it down and you looked at it, it was not strong at all.

SPEAKER_02 15:35

I I read into it and I was like, this seems like a case of regret, and I got caught, maybe. And you know, it was it was a very interesting either way.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Either way was I believe that the Sean Roden situation was that first of all, the girl was of age, that's number one. And her was it her husband or business partner was waiting downstairs for her. Yes. And the DNA was actually saliva on her breasts, if I'm at, which is really sus. It's really we'll never know.

SPEAKER_02 16:06

I mean, but aren't you like, you know, as an as a married woman, don't you sometimes just go into random hotel rooms with men that are you're not you know, I mean, like it's just like it's like honestly, just like the most normal thing in the world, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 16:18

Like like two a.m. two a.m. in the morning or something, yeah, right, yeah, and leave your husband downstairs, right? Exactly. Not the laptop like that fucking hotel room coffee at 2 a.m. I think. Yeah, I know I meet up with random people all the time in their hotel, especially you know, yeah, the most picking up two biscuits, or I'd kill for two those biscuits at 2 a.m.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

It's it was oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

I the more I read into it, the more I was like, yeah, this is like we don't know, it was but it was at very, very, very best. It was like suspicious circumstances, and the actual fact of it is never convicted, and it was allegations that were made. And then well, we don't know the conclusion of that, but based off of that, he was alleged as as these things, based off of that, an allegation, no court of law, no jury, no judge, no nothing, nobody said it was true. They alleged that it might be true, banned. I have TV control card revoked.

SPEAKER_00 17:12

Fuck you, like fuck you, but it's gonna complete nothing, nothing. And then you have a situation like this, you have a situation like this.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

But after that, it's like, whoa, okay, how about that? How about this, guys? We adapt and modify the rule set, and you put, oh, if you're a registered sex offender, you can't compete. How about like some administrative change? Because people are asking questions like, okay, well, that was a really big unilateral thing that you guys did that we didn't have prior knowledge of, that if you get arrested for this particular crime, then you can no longer compete. Okay, cool, we accept it. I accept that, right? Like, I don't want rapists and predators and whatever in the IFB. That's cool, make it a rule set. And then if you're not gonna make it a rule set, maybe be really open to banning other people if I don't know, half a million people see a video and you're getting messaged all the time about a dude named Grace Short that's a sex offender. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

There are certain there are certain crimes um that are just unforgiving for me. And you know, there are there are crimes that are forgivable. You know, we have uh me and Lee have a good friend, Bo Lewis, who went to jail for murder. It was not intentional. He got into a fight with a guy in the street over a girl, and he actually unintentionally killed him because they were fighting in the street. I don't know the circumstance, and Bo did uh, I think 18 years, can't came out of jail and actually turned pro within like a year or two, and then won the New York Pro 212, uh in the next year or two after that.

SPEAKER_02 18:35

I know I know exactly who that is.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

I forgot, I can forgive that. That's yeah, that's understanding shit happened.

SPEAKER_02 18:41

That's like children and kids, the indefensibles absolutely not. I don't care, and somebody left a comment the last time I posted the video. Oh, it was 16 years ago. Like, I don't give a fuck. Like, is that girl ever getting her innocence back? Like, oh yeah, it's been long enough. He's probably not a creep anymore. I don't know. When I was 31 a few years ago, I wasn't trolling around high schools trying to victimize children.

SPEAKER_05 19:04

31 and 15, you know.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

Come on, dude. When I was 21, I wouldn't date a 15-year-old. Give me a break, man. It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

It's weird that none of us have done these crimes, and it's just should be you know what, enough time has elapsed. Yeah, there that's true for a lot of things. Yeah, dude. I have a friend, he he when he was 16, he did a very stupid thing and was sentenced and he murdered somebody, and he got out when he was almost 30. Kind of an odd guy, very nice dude. And you know, I wouldn't, you know, uh I wouldn't go and buy drugs with him because it would happen the past time somebody went in to buy drugs with him. But I, you know, I if he wanted to compete in a bodybuilding show, sure, bro, absolutely. But it's like, you know, if he told me, and this actually happened, a friend of mine, I didn't know this, but in 2018 he was in one of those Chris Hansen type stings, a local real police prior to put it on, and I found it. And and I I texted him and I was like, David, what the fuck is this? I sent him the the article. He's like, Oh, I thought you knew. What do you mean you thought I knew? And you know what I did with the information? Blasted his ass. Unfriend. We're not friends no more.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

Look, man, I what I don't understand is like you're you're the adult, you have to make the the decision. You you can't there, you can't, there is no way, shape, or form you're blaming this on the 15-year-old whatsoever. Okay, what I don't understand is I I I don't first of all, I always like I was always attracted to a woman, not a little girl. I that's the first thing off the bat.

SPEAKER_02 20:32

I don't know why guys are attracted to Step one of not being a job molester, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:36

Right. But why can't if you like him young, why can't you at least be with the ones that are legal if they're because this is there really a big difference between 18 and 15? Like, can't you just go for the 19-year-old and at least you won't be in trouble? Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_02 20:51

You know, for a guy like him, he's a huge fucking loser, and he had no agency. If I'm remembering the story correctly, this was three years ago at this point. I I think he was some sort of coach for something, and it was maybe a girl's soccer team. And he had some there was also another uh, by the way, guy I there's a video I have to repost. A natural uh bodybuilding pro guy was at a show. He showed he popped back up, same story, victimized a child, was a coach and in charge of it, whatever from like five years ago.

SPEAKER_03 21:18

I posted a video.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

But he he was at a show this weekend that a friend of mine was at sent me a picture of him, said, Oh, he's back. Not for long, bitch.

SPEAKER_05 21:25

But even but even like you said when they say, even like you said when they say it's been 16 years, it doesn't matter to me. There is no limit on that shit. And oh, too bad Ray can't compete in the pro show. Poor you. You can still fucking train, you still got your life. This girl, whatever happened, could be still traumatized for the rest of her life, but you can't compete in a pro show. I feel so sorry for you, Ray.

SPEAKER_02 21:46

Not poor guy. He's gonna have honestly though, I was I was praying on his downfall, I was conspiring. I've been logging into a burner account, checking on him for every you know three months to see if he was training for a show, and I was like, ooh. We're about two weeks out.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

Get the Instagram machine running. Fuck this guy.

SPEAKER_05 22:06

If I do that though, I wouldn't even fucking compete. I wouldn't go out there because you know this would come up.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

It's like I would be completely embarrassed of myself. I would hide in the fucking shadows. I would move to a different country. You know what? I train at home.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

You know, he he also he was telling people, let me see if you give me a second here, I can find a screenshot where he is telling people that I made it all up and that none of it's true.

SPEAKER_05 22:30

So you you made a border court document.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

You know what? I think a random bumfuck from Oklahoma looked at him and I said, That's the guy I'm gonna victimize.

SPEAKER_05 22:40

Just like just like somebody did a 15-year-old girl and he's gonna phone book and just went thing, that's who I'm gonna raise short. That's him. That guy.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

Let me find this. Uh I have a screenshot on him. I actually forgot about this until we're just now talking about it.

SPEAKER_05 22:56

I like how Goob, I like how you also go after those fucking cunts who herd animals too. I like that also. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Oh, I got uh I got a big update on uh if you guys heard Michael Gertchie uh fucking TMZ robbed my story, didn't give me any credit at all, but whatever, it got fucking national. Uh he beat both of his dogs and was just a big piece of shit.

SPEAKER_05 23:14

Who's this? You haven't seen the videos of him beating these dogs? Oh, you want to get you want to get angry to watch the stuff.

SPEAKER_00 23:24

I don't want to watch it. I don't want I don't um It's really bad.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

But his uh his whole thing was he these women were coming at me and they're like, hey, you gotta expose this guy, you gotta expose this guy. And it was it was basically like he is a douchebag when it comes to being a relationship partner, but if I did that in the bodybuilding world, I would have 500 videos I could post every day, all day for the next year. So like it it was like, okay, well he's a douchebag, and it seemed like he was like a terrible shitty guy, but it's like you know, call the police with the shit like you know, I would get a restraining order, like I I don't know what I can do about this. And you know, they're bothering me for like a week about like expose this guy, expose this guy, expose this guy. And then the last day that you know, before I release this video, I was like, I don't know, I don't think I'm gonna do this. They send a video, it's this blurry ass video from a r uh uh Nest camera at home of him absolutely fucking annihilating these two dogs he had. He had a tank corso and a pit bull, and he I'm not even kidding, picks the pit bull up like fucking Undertaker style, power bombs it into the ground, kicks it, kicks the other one in the face. It's disgusting. And and I'm like, it's a blurry ass video, and you can barely see what's going on. And I say, like, whoa, why didn't you lead with this? Like, I don't give a shit about the other stuff. Like, yeah, it seems like he's a douchebag. Why are you with him? Those dogs can't choose to not be with him. You know what I mean? Like, you you're a grown woman, you can get out of there. Which, you know, she did, thank God, whatever. And he continues to stalk her to this day or whatever. But uh, I was like, you know, why why don't you send me this dog video? And so I did. You know, she did, I got a crisp video of it and posted it, whatever, and and uh they started tagging the local police department. This video is two years old, and nobody ever did anything about it because I don't think any it ever saw the light of day until I had it. And I post it, the local police department gets right on it, gets the DA to fucking charge us for a two-year-old video. They get him in there, a felony in will be like he's fucked right now. He has a court date like every single other week. He's been in and out of courts.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

I can watch two guys beat the shit out of each other. I can't watch anybody abuse Anna. You wouldn't want to see this one. No, I don't want to see any of it.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Good news on that, the two dogs were seized by him. He fought tooth and nail. He went into hiding. And when he went into hiding, everybody that followed my page that knew or was in the area were giving leads on where they saw him with the dogs. He flees from uh wherever he's in Massachusetts to uh Virginia, his home in Virginia, they take the dogs from him. They actually go, show up, take the dogs from him, and they go to two shelters, which and then it went dark. We didn't know what was up with the dogs. And the reason was this guy's a fucking crazy person, and they didn't want him to like go to whatever rescue was promoting the dog or whatever. Uh they just announced yesterday that both dogs found places, the one found an animal sanctuary, the uh the pit bull, and the King Corso went to a Corso rescue, and they fostered it out to a person that's gonna keep it.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Alright, good, thank God. All right, let's get let's get back to uh Ray Short. Here's the thing this is Linda Murray's show, right? Okay, I've interviewed Linda Murray, she's been on on my channel. I wanna say I don't think she knows because I would think she would take it. She does.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

I tagged her in multiple videos, which then because every single time somebody comments something, she gets the notification. I sent her DMs, I sent her information about Ray Short. If she hasn't seen it, it is because she is willingly avoiding it because it is something that is difficult to deal with. Wow. Jesus Christ. Like hundred percent, like million percent.

SPEAKER_05 26:48

And you think as a female promoter, you wouldn't want somebody like that in your show. Yeah, you would think so.

SPEAKER_02 26:53

You would think, you would think, but I mean, it's very easy. You know, what can she say? Oh, well, you know, I can't ban him because the I can't take his IFP pro card. Like, oh, that's great. Ban him from the venue. He can't come in the venue, he can't compete at the show. You you have the venue for a day, you rented it for a day.

SPEAKER_05 27:07

Like you said, you could say he's making if he's making other people feel unwelcome here to they're feeling uncomfortable with their children.

SPEAKER_02 27:13

So they don't even need to say that. All they need it's a private establishment, it's a private place. Okay, you can't be here. Trust me, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:19

When I got banned just for competing elsewhere and the IPU didn't like me, they stopped me from going to contests and expos. I was I was on the ban list, I couldn't go in for doing nothing.

SPEAKER_01 27:29

Think about that. Lee Brees did not touch a child and was not allowed to compete. Raised your come on down, buddy, get on stage.

SPEAKER_00 27:39

This is just sick. You're a winner. This is just sick.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

But I appreciate you guys because up until a few days ago, I was really the only person talking about this. And I've I've seen a couple channels picking it up and actually saying, like, oh, hey, wait, is this guy actually gonna get on stage? And if if I mean you guys, you know, speak directly to the bodybuilding community. If you guys say it, then it becomes a thing that people really give a shit about.

SPEAKER_05 28:01

And that's Xavier and I for IFBB AMA. That's a good channel too, that has Aan Twan and um Hollingshead and all that on it. We did a thing yesterday and they're gonna clip it and put it up on well Friday, Friday time. They're gonna put that up because they don't want this to be I want this to be out before this fucking show happens.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

Uh he's gonna get the most amazing boo. I'm doing the same thing.

SPEAKER_00 28:26

This is going up tomorrow morning, and then I'm clipping it and put it on Instagram and TikTok and Facebook. I can't forgive anybody who does anything with an underage child. I can't. I don't care if it's I I can't. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 28:38

You you that's and then it's like you know, people ask, Oh, are you gonna like you know troll him for the to the end of his life for this? Like the answer is yeah, like you can't undo, there's no forgiveness, there's no forgetting. I will do everything I can to make this guy uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_05 28:52

If this should just say out in a public car, he needs it just like his kids. Yeah, exactly. What can he do?

SPEAKER_02 28:56

He can find a job, find a job where you interact with nobody and you don't leave the house, and everybody will be happy, bro. There's a truck driving position, I promise you, that you can you can get in that cab, bro. Nobody's gonna be booing you on stage in the cab.

SPEAKER_00 29:12

And he's not making any money as a pro bodybuilder because he's a shit bodybuilder, okay? And this also shows this also tells me, this also tells me if he did the Masters Olympia last year, and uh this also tells me there's probably not much shame, which which means has to question his conscience because I I don't know why you would put yourself in the public eye if you were completely convicted of a crime like this. This is just disgust, you have to have no shame and no conscience if you decide, yeah, I'll go back on stage and be in the center of attention again. What the what could possibly happen? Okay to me, that means he doesn't care about it.

SPEAKER_05 29:47

And like you said, in the way we think about it, people knowing now, how could you sit in an audience watching him on stage and even applaud for that fucker on stage? How how could you clap for him knowing what he's done?

SPEAKER_00 29:59

It's like what Goob, on my other channel, I interview a lot of uh former uh uh mafia guys. Okay, I have a second channel called Serious Outcast. The last guy I interviewed that was a mafia guy, it was two weeks ago. His name is Jimmy Easy, okay. He he did uh 16 years, he he uh you know turn states evidence. So we actually told a story and he told it on Vlad TV as well, okay. That um he uh his one of his boss told him that he there was a sex offender in the neighborhood and they wanted to, you know, give him a beating.

SPEAKER_02 30:34

Now there were other people that noble, no noble, noble job, noble service there.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

Yeah, there were other people that were saying that were questioning it, and apparently he was originally doing it because he he thought this guy was holding on to a lot of drugs, or he originally was doing it that um he was gonna uh uh take this guy and um you know steal the drugs and so on and so forth. So uh and you know, sell the resell the drugs. So he he actually finds the guy. I think it was he pulled him over. Um the guy didn't have any drugs, but he actually found a scrapbook. I want to say it was in his car, but I might be wrong, it might be in his house. He actually found a scrapbook, and this is the early 90s, and the scrapbook had pictures of young kids in it, okay? And he gave this guy such a just such a beating, he actually gouged out both of his eyes, and he he blinded him. It was you might be looking at that scrapbook anymore. Oh no, yeah, and he tells the story on the time back for that, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 31:40

It's like, well, you know, all the mafia shit and uh Rico and whatever, but two eyes of one good deed, so we gotta forget that's worth like three and a half years or something, it should be at least, like at least so there's even honor among people like that where you just don't go there, and that tells you something.

SPEAKER_02 31:58

It's like you could go to any prison in America and you ask them, like, you know, job molester, no, dogs, love like okay, well, if the worst people on our society still and I don't mean the worst people, I mean uh the people that have you know maybe more weird moral compasses to us, because there's some crazy shit that you could get, you know, get in prison for that's like absolutely stupid. But if the if the people that break the.

SPEAKER_05 32:24

You could have a killer in jail who's murdered people, another murderer comes in, he's like, I don't care. You can have someone that's even like murdered everyone, but as soon as a child molester comes in, you're fucking dead. You cross the line.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

And I I actually interviewed another guy who was the his name was they called him Pee-Wee because he was six foot eight and four hundred pounds, but he was the former Las Vegas chapter president of the Hells Angels. So he gets arrested again. This is in the 90s, and he said that um when he gets arrested, they have all the newbies lined up against the wall, facing the wall. And they said, anybody who is here for grape or you know, um any kind of uh uh underrated sexual assault or anything like that, take two steps back. And there were two guys that took two steps back out of the whole line of other guys, and they took those guys and they put them in a special fucking like kind of spot where no gen pop's not gonna get to them because they know they're gonna get destroyed, because the the prisoners have their paperwork immediately, especially if you're Hispanic, according to him, and and white. Um, the black guys are kind of like this, but the Hispanic guys and the white guys, they want nothing to do with you. And and if they and if they they know that you're there because you you know you assaulted a female or you assaulted a minor, or especially a uh a girl that's a minor, you know, sexually assaulted or whatever the case may be, they know you're done, man. You're done.

SPEAKER_02 33:51

And I mean, think about like I I don't know if you've watched the show, they got uh 60 days in. It's fucking awesome show. It's the it's these people they like want to go and the the the premise of the show is like help the sheriff improve the jail by sending like regular people in to do 60 days, but really it's like fun reality TV. But they get there and these prisoners have nothing else to do with all their time. So they talk to the person, figure out their name, whatever. Then when they go to the phone and call their people on the outside, or they're sending their messages on the the tablet to the outside, they're like, This is the name, this is what they say their crimes are, this is where they live. Can you look this person up? And they'll you know, come back like, Hey, you don't have any paperwork, is that your real name? And they they really like get these people, and it's like one day, day one, they're all trying to figure out what their crimes were. And there was one woman that came in in the women's unit one and she had a crime where she had like beat her kid or strangle her kid or something, and and all these women were like, We're gonna beat her ass. They figured it out in eight hours. Yeah, that's gotta be. I mean, Ray, what was it? You know, Ray really avoided some tough time on the inside.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

That could have that could have been him. That could have been him. So if he's boohooing about fucking, oh I get the bodybuilding shot, I can't go, and everybody, everybody booze me. Like, yeah, suck a dick, dude.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

Like, it could have been way worse. You could have been in there for six years and gotten your shit stomped out every single day, you know, looking around your shoulder.

SPEAKER_05 35:11

It could have been getting the colonoscopy and getting the colon removed. Yeah, really. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:16

Actually, just to prove my point, I did another interview on my other channel where a guy was falsely accused of grape and sentenced to prison. And he did either 12 or 14 years, and they proved that he was because this is all in the early 90s, and DNA was just starting to come on the scene, and they proved that he didn't do it. But they tried to kill him three times. One time they actually did. They he was like in the wait area, and this guy came over with a um uh short dumbbells and started beating him in the head with it. Um, and then uh the it was the beating was so bad that the the the prison didn't have the means to treat him, and they had a helicopter him to an actual hospital to be treated. So, yeah, they will get you. Even and and the guy actually got out of jail, was proven innocent through DNA, and then sued the state of New York. I believe he was in Buffalo, sued the state of New York, went to law school, came out, started a practice to uh help people that are falsely accused. Wow, yeah, uh it's unbelievable. Yeah, but no, they will they will you you you go to jail for grape or anything like a kid, and you are in deep shit.

SPEAKER_05 36:25

But I love now that she's out there and it's getting out there from us and Goob doing it and some other stations, and when it comes out on the other thing that Xavier I did. Now the IFBB must know got wind of it by now. Come on, it's like yeah, if they let him compete, like I said, I want to hear their reasoning on letting him compete, but you destroyed Sean Roden over an allegation when this is a conviction. We have the paperwork. There should be no rather lower. Even if it don't give him a chance, let him compete, he studies time. Fuck that. That's like, no, he doesn't compete ever. You destroyed Sean over an allegation, and you're gonna let this guy compete when he's a registered sex offender. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:03

Have some more, have some, have some morals, have some values, okay? Set some fucking standards, all right? And the IFBB should have a standard that we are not gonna tolerate this. But it really seems like they're turning a blind eye for whatever fucking reason. It beats the shit out of me. It's not like he's a big draw, he's a shabbe a third-tier bodybuilder at best.

SPEAKER_02 37:23

There's a lot of people that are gonna be in those stands that are aware of him. Not fans, people that hate his guts and think he's a predator. But you know, a lot of people are gonna be there for him in the bad way, not the good way. So, very well-known guy.

SPEAKER_00 37:35

I wonder how the bodybuilders are gonna take it.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

I mean, if I if I were stage, hold on.

SPEAKER_00 37:42

Go ahead, Goo. I'll get I'll get back to you, Lee. Go ahead, Goo.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

Oh, I wouldn't want to be on stage with him. And and I really think that I mean, I I've done stories on people like this before, and you know, they've gone to shows and people give them a hard time. Like, I guarantee you, everybody on that stage that's in the open class is aware right now that he's in the show and that he's a sex event.

SPEAKER_00 38:01

Go ahead, Lee. What were you gonna say?

SPEAKER_05 38:02

Especially like I was saying, like, you know, you got people back there like James, I'm a James stand-up guy. James has just had a baby daughter. Now going through my mind, I'm like, I've just had a baby daughter, you fucking touched a 15-year-old, you put yourself if that was my daughter. How could you even like want to share the stage with a piece of shit like that? You'd be like, Don't even fucking get up here with us. You don't belong here, you're a piece of shit.

SPEAKER_00 38:24

Yeah, it's it's unbelievable. Um he's gonna have a tough day. Yeah, he's definitely gonna have a tough day.

SPEAKER_02 38:30

I think he's I don't think he's gonna go. I think he's gonna drop out. I think there's zero chance that he actually.

SPEAKER_00 38:34

If he doesn't drop out, that proves he has no shame and no conscience. Right? It really, because this is gonna be out tomorrow. Then I'm gonna clip it and I'm gonna tag you, Goob, and I'm gonna tag Lee, and it's gonna be all over Instagram and TikTok and Facebook. If if he shows up, that proves he has no shame and well, I think we long time ago established he has no shame and no conscience.

SPEAKER_02 38:55

This guy was a convicted sex offender and then put himself in a position where he might become famous and well known, and didn't even think, like, oh, maybe that thing from my past comes back up. Like, not at all. Just I'm gonna be a professional bodybuilder, I'm gonna be on stage, I want people to look into me. But so maybe it wouldn't be shame and it wouldn't be that, it would be fear, where he's like, holy shit, I'm gonna be backstage with a bunch of dudes on ton of Annvar and Trend that might beat my ass. This might be a horrible position for me to be in. I cannot handle this.

SPEAKER_05 39:24

You know, something like, oh, they're gonna find out I had a DUI or shoplifting.

SPEAKER_00 39:29

No, this is something Yeah, yeah, no, there is you know, things like get you know, it things like assault, things like you know, drugs, things like alcohol, you know, you it's forgivable, right? We we all get into shit, it all happens, but with kids, it is not forgivable. There is no forgiving. I don't care if it was 10 years ago, 20 years ago. It is not, you can't. It's just it's it's just the epitome of absolute.

SPEAKER_05 40:01

No idea.

SPEAKER_02 40:01

I think he is uh he is with a woman, and I don't believe all of the children are his. There are children that he is in contact with the cares for every day.

SPEAKER_05 40:10

I'd be very, I'd be very worried about him looking after the kids. Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

She's got to be the track record is terrible.

SPEAKER_00 40:17

He he she's gotta be a shit show, too. I mean, you know, unhealthy people always contact unhealthy people.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

They I mean, no, you know, it's just like that uh classic, you know, Disney movie type of relationship. Like you meet a guy, he's back, you find out he's a registered sex offender, you introduce him to your daughter. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 40:35

Like it's just like the classic, classic.

SPEAKER_05 40:37

Now you'll take you'll take really good care of her when I'm not home.

SPEAKER_02 40:41

Yeah, but lady, on the real, on the real. This chick's like, you know, the the little girl is like maybe eight, nine, ten or something. Like in five years, are you gonna be on are you gonna be okay him driving her to high school? Are you gonna be okay him picking her up? Are you gonna be okay leaving the house?

SPEAKER_00 40:57

This woman has she's she's gotta be, she's gotta be just as as fucked up as he is. He has to, because nobody in their right mind and no responsible human being would put their children in that position.

SPEAKER_05 41:08

And if you knew, if you knew and you were, and like you said, she has a birthday party. Would you want your young kids going to her birthday party now? And that's the guy in your house.

SPEAKER_00 41:17

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

SPEAKER_05 41:18

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 41:19

Sorry, my husband has to leave the house before you guys come over because he was a sex offender. Oh, okay. Sounds good.

SPEAKER_05 41:27

Sounds good. He gets very excited at these young birthday parties. He can't control himself.

SPEAKER_02 41:32

Damn, this guy's got a this guy's got a whole family. There's somebody to be watching this, and they're like, holy shit, I'm on suicide watch. I don't I never I never molested no kid, and I don't have a wife or kid or girlfriend or anything. How does this guy have a family?

SPEAKER_01 41:43

Imagine that. Yeah, how does this guy have a family? How?

SPEAKER_00 41:46

Yeah, and there are and there are and there are women that leave great guys and and destroy homes because they just feel like it. And this guy's got a fucking wife and family, no girl and family. Unfievable.

SPEAKER_01 41:56

Whole family, all loaded up. All loaded up.

SPEAKER_00 41:59

Unbelievable. That's like the equivalent to when uh the the serial killers go away to prison and then they have like, you know, shouldn't have to know, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_05 42:06

This ego, what is this all fake, that's all made up, that's not true, that's not true, or is she just a believist and doesn't even know herself.

SPEAKER_00 42:13

No, she's gotta be a shit show just like he is. She's gotta be as toxic and nuts just like he is. Like I said, with the serial killers that go to jail and then or or the or the or the celebrity killers that go to jail, whatever the case may be, they have they have like a whole lines of women that write to them and love them and so on and so forth. That doesn't happen the other way around. You know, girl doesn't kill somebody in an old form of a. I mean, you go down the list, all of them. It's not even a guy who's a hillside.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

At least that guy did a mobile noble thing there, you know. The guy's a hill side strangler.

SPEAKER_05 42:54

All the fucking women from the Ramirez, oh, uh, they show up.

SPEAKER_00 42:57

The Menende Menendez broth brothers, they show up in there. Yeah. Um, the guy Watts who killed his kids and his wife. Oh, he's got people just girls writing letters, sending naked pictures to him. It's unbelievable.

SPEAKER_05 43:09

It's just a mistake, he'll never do that again.

SPEAKER_02 43:13

Oh, yeah. There's a lot of broken people in this world, very unfortunate. Yeah, it really is.

SPEAKER_05 43:18

But it's kind of like I said, this was gonna all have to rest on the IFBB, and this will show the IFBB's moral standing if they let him go on stage.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

Any predictions? Any predictions, Lee? With your experience with the IFBB and actually being banned in the past, do you lean more towards the old ban him and create let create some sort of uh rule set for sex offenders not being able to do that?

SPEAKER_05 43:40

I hope they would because my banning was over because I competed elsewhere and I spoke bad about the IFB. I got banned for life. Sean Roder was an allegation, they ruined him. So it seems to me, because when I fought the case, I brought up you're gonna ban me for competing somewhere else, doing what I do, making money. And I said to the IFBB, you Have this guy here, he's a convicted felon. This guy here does this. This guy here by Google online. I can see him doing gay porn. So if a if a young kid was to Google these people, what looks worse? Me competing, doing what I do, making money, or seeing these people. And they figured what I did was worse. So on their track record, they'll probably let the cunt compete because going against the IPV or speaking bad is worse than I guess fucking graping a fucking or having an underage sex with a young girl, according to them, or an allegation made like Sean Roden, they destroyed him. But when they've got someone who actually did it and got the proof, oh, we don't care. Oh, we don't care. Let him go.

SPEAKER_00 44:38

You know what the difference is? The difference is Lee Priest at the time was one of the most popular bodybuilders in the world, and Sean Roden was Mr. Olympia. That's the difference. Nobody knows who Ray Short is. He's a shit bodybuilder. Nobody knows. So they don't give a shit. That I know. So yeah. I got I.

SPEAKER_02 44:54

That's another argument for why, like, he sucks. He's not going to win. There is not a single person delusional enough, it's not his wife, to put him in the top three of this show this weekend. So, like, it it is, it it changes nothing. It's not like, oh, well, if Ray Short's not there, like, what's the top five gonna look like? The same. It's gonna be the exact same. Nothing's gonna change. Nobody's gonna notice. He's gonna come on stage. The only people cheering for him are gonna be his wife in the back. Yeah, you go, baby. The rest of the people are gonna be like, fuck this guy, and everything, nothing, it'll literally save time. One less competitor. It'll save time, it'll get rid of that guy. Nothing will change. The lineup's not gonna change. You can literally just get rid of him. There's no reason not to. He has money, too.

SPEAKER_05 45:35

Yeah, because the IP, and like I said, now because we know and the IVB will know, to me, that's gonna show the IVB's character if they let him go on stage knowing, even though he's not a good competitor, if they let him up there knowing what they know about him, that just shows me their fucking moral ground. So Tyler and them don't come on spouting that this is a family business and we do it for the people and blah. Fuck that. You're not.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

I think he's gonna, I think he's gonna be on stage. I think he's gonna compete. And I think they I think they are gonna be like, well, this is he is basically a no-name. This is gonna blow over by next week. Some other gossip will come up and they'll turn the blind eye to it. I personally think that. I they or they might let him compete and then after this act surprised and be like, okay, we're never gonna, we're not gonna let him compete anymore. But I honestly I think if I was a betting man, I would say, yeah, he's probably gonna be on stage.

SPEAKER_05 46:26

Linda Murray should be like, I don't want him on stage.

SPEAKER_00 46:28

Well, you know, again, if that's the case, then Linda Murray is just going along with you know, whatever the powers that be. You know, she doesn't want to ruffle feathers.

SPEAKER_02 46:39

And and it's sometimes really hard to do things that may cost you money or a position that you're in or whatever, but if it's the right thing, you just do it, you know. That's why Lee, tons of respect for you for saying, Fuck this. I'm gonna go and compete somewhere to make more money, knowing what it, you know, what you might have to do or endure for that. That's called having integrity. It's very rare nowadays.

SPEAKER_05 46:58

Yeah, back in the day I signed with um I was changing contracts and Muscle Tech signed me a free-year deal, good year, good money. After eight months, I'll put it in magazines. Lee Priest said this, Lee Priest said, I said, I didn't say that about the product. They're like, Well, we pay you just yet, I didn't say that. So after eight months, I said, I want out. They're like, We'll take you to court. I said, Take me to court. I say the product shit. We went back and forth and they finally let me out of my contract because I wasn't going to go along with them and me saying that this because I said, Listen, if I say this product is the best product ever, people work hard for their money, young kids. They go buy it on my recommendation and they go, This is fucking shit. They're never gonna believe a word I say again. I said, You're not gonna buy my integrity or who I am. So fuck you, I got out of the contract and Dexter's like, I want to get out hell again. I'd say, just say that product. I said, Dexter, just say it's shit. He's like, oh Lee, you're crazy, you're crazy. I said, then why be with a company to put words in your mouth? I said, you can pay me all you want, but I'm not gonna fucking lie to people. Same as with young LA. I like these shirts, I like a lot of this shit, but if I do if I get closed out of the box and I don't like it, I'm gonna say I don't like it. People like, but they pay you, Lie. I said, Yeah, but I don't have to like everything. Fuck.

SPEAKER_00 48:07

Well, the best was actually re and this was recent. This was in the last year with species.

SPEAKER_02 48:11

Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, I I just quit I quit my uh first and only supplement contract three months into it. Uh I did a video exposing uh that guy Malibu FitMax, and the company that I was with was upset with me about it because that company was friends with the the company that that uh signed the guy. You know Malibu, do you know that whole story? He was uh pretending to be hit by an IED or whatever, like this big line.

SPEAKER_00 48:40

Give me a give us the uh give us the the the reader's digest version because I didn't hear this.

SPEAKER_02 48:44

Long story short, uh he had this meteoric rise in about January or February of this year, started posting online. He's like this goofy looking dude that looks like Gary Busey fucked like some California blonde somewhere or something, and just like the bigot interesting looking guy. He claims online and put it in his bio and marketed himself, saying, I was an army veteran and I got hit by an IED in my face, and that's why my face looks like this. When the actual reality is he got Botox and all sorts of other stuff and Jimmy just shit up and just looks weird. He just looks like a freak. And um I I pulled his DD 214 and did all this crazy stuff and like called it out that he actually never got hit by anything, that he went over there, kicked around, he actually fell once while drunk in Korea in a station. He was too got too drunk and fell and like fucked his lip up or something, and that was the only IED that we could find, which wasn't an injury from service, it was an injury from drinking too much. And so I did the whole story, it came out, and they were upset with me about doing the video. This was at the Arnold, actually. They were upset with me at the Arnold that I had done this video that I had called it was ANSUS because they were super upset with me that I had done the video because the guy who owns uh the brand that sponsored Malibu was uh was mad about it because we were there and they didn't end up bringing Malibu because millions of people had seen the video about Malibu. They spent all this money to build a booth around him and they couldn't bring him to the expo because too many people would be trolling him because of me telling the truth. So the gu when I get apparently I leave for lunch and the guy who owns this uh ProSups is the company's called comes over and his motherfucking the guy who owns ANSUPs at his booth because of me, and they call me, they're like, Hey John, like listen, can you just not say anything about that anymore? And I was like, fuck you guys, like straight up fuck you. This is day one of the Arnold, like straight up fuck you. I'll go home tomorrow if you want. Oh no, no, no, no, no, it's okay, it's okay. And I I was like after this weekend, like I'm literally done with these fuckers. And I got and I texted dude and I was like, dude, I'm out, like I'm out. I don't need oh, do you want to just like see talk about it? Like, maybe we'll pay you one more month. No, I'm good. I'll see you later. Thanks, guys.

SPEAKER_05 50:42

Exactly. Yeah, but then um well yeah, as I was saying to that species, I signed with Dave back with species. I went back with species. I was three months in, and Dave and Greg were having a thing online over David Paul and that, and pretty much these show, a couple of shows, like Greg's good friend of mine. Dave was pretty much just calling Greg a liar, putting him down and shit. I just said to Dave, I don't like the way you're talking about Greg and putting him down that I want nothing to do with your company. I want out of the contract and shit. So I got out just because he was talking shit about a friend of mine. I said, I'm not gonna be with you doing that, so goodbye.

SPEAKER_02 51:14

Wow, me and you are very alike, Mr. Priest. I have blown up so many money deals for myself because somebody did something that I just didn't agree with and couldn't rock with anymore. And I was like, Yeah, I'm out of here.

SPEAKER_00 51:25

Well, maybe one day I'll be in you guys' position where I can say, fuck you.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

Or right now, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But Lee, you will agree with me. You will agree with me. The reason we are in the positions that we are in is because we constantly do this stuff and we only attract business partners and people that have supreme integrity and are happy to hire us for our outspokenness. So and I was I was when the AN Subs guys had this conversation with me, and I said to them, I was like, I I actually at the Arnold, I pulled the owner outside and I was screaming at him uh in the aisle there, and he had some guy I because I I came back from lunch pissed off because they sent me this text about like you need to keep this a little quiet, and I'm running back to the booth to go, motherfuck this guy, and I see him in the hallway, he's like outside, and he's talking to some other vendor or something, and I'm just screaming at him in front of them, and I was like, Oh god, this is so bad. But you brought me in and know who I am and what I do. Why are you upset with me doing stuff?

SPEAKER_05 52:22

Dave Columbo, Dave Columbo used to do shows like, I don't get Lee, just when he's doing good in the IFB, he opens his mouth and this and he just sabotaged himself. I said, Yeah, I'm making good money, but I they're screwing over the other athletes. I was making like in the 90s 18 grand a month. I could have kept my mouth shut, but it's not about me, it's about the other guys who worked their ass off, and they should be getting paid too. So I stood up and I got blackboard and MD. I was getting six grand for MD a month just for doing that column. I could be told Steve Blackman, you've got to get rid of Lee. If you don't get rid of Lee, you're not photographing any more athletes and that. And then Greg told me Steve had like, fuck, I don't want to do it, but I have to. So they dumped me. I lost a lot of contract speed sweat. But I said, you know what? Even when I went I went from like 18 grand down to 4,000 for a while, I said, you know what? I still got food on the table, I got a roof over my head, I can still go to the gym. So fuck you all. I still did my thing. And things slowly came back because, like I said, people know who you are, they know you're a stand-up person. And then, like you said, when you do get with someone, you get with the right people who have the same values as what you do.

SPEAKER_02 53:22

100%. I I work right now with a company called Hummus Fit. I could say anything and they they trust what I say. And if I say something and I don't like something, they're never gonna chir me about it. Uh I could post any content and they know that I'm a wild guy and that I'll post some crazy stuff sometimes. I've done videos on on coverage on companies that we work with. They don't care. If it's the truth, they want it out there and they like super support me in that. I know they would never be like, hey John, you gotta you gotta keep it a little quiet about this. Absolutely never. And and then again, like John, to you to to what you said, there is value in things other than money. And and and to me, I would rather be super broke. And I don't think my antics will ever cause me to be super broke, but if they did and I was doing the right thing while it happened, I'm happy with it.

SPEAKER_00 54:04

No, you're right. I haven't I haven't experienced that. I have two sponsors and um they haven't said anything about my content.

SPEAKER_05 54:11

Well, the guy, the guy, the guy who is head of crucifix and that he he likes you, John. So I know the guy personally. Yeah, that's for sure. I know that Lee Priest pretty pretty well, so you're safe.

SPEAKER_00 54:21

I have two sponsors thanks for Lee Priest, actually. Yeah. But even on my on my other channel, I interview, like I said, mob guys. Um, I've interviewed, you know, a former Klu Klux Klan member, I've interviewed um bikers, I've interviewed uh uh you know adult entertainers, and then I haven't gotten anything from anybody to say to say, you know, we won't sponsor you or anything like that. So it is what it is, you know, not and um, you know, you're you're 100% right. And uh you have my word, I'm going to stick to my I am too old to uh bow to the almighty dollar.

SPEAKER_02 54:53

Okay, so it's all about like what do you you know as at at the time that my heart stopped beating, what did I do for the world? And it's not gonna be any amount of zeros or whatever or whatever I had. It's you know, who did you stand up for when nobody else would what did you what did you change for somebody that nobody else could change? What did you fix? How did you help somebody else? It's not gonna be anything, nobody's gonna be like, he made a ton of money and it was really great for him. It's not gonna be sad about you at all.

SPEAKER_05 55:18

And I've seen, I see, I see some of the things you uh I was seeing so I didn't know who you were for a while until someone brought to attention. I see some of the hate you get, but even the hate you get from people, deep down, they must be like, you know what? I'm glad he brought this out to the attention. I wouldn't have done it, but I'm glad he did. I think people people just pile on that hate wave, and just so yeah, I I don't like him either, but deep inside they're probably like, oh fuck, I love Goop, what's he doing today? I love you, but when they when you're in public, they're like, we don't like him either.

SPEAKER_02 55:45

Because I think the majority of the people are positive though, because you you you you're exposing shitheads, you know, you know, never I'll get like random, like I I posted the the most hate I've ever gotten, ever, ever, ever. I live in New York City, and uh there's this crazy situation right behind my house where there's like a homeless camp coming. And I've lived here in this spot for almost eight years. Never has there been a homeless encampment that has existed for like three months. It's like huge, like skid road type of shit. Live in a nice neighborhood, it's like not normal. There'd be, you know, a tent pop up and then the police come take it down. But there's a new mayor, and his whole prerogative is like, oh, we'll find a house for them and leave them there until and it's like this is like really weak policy. And I did a video criticizing it, and I was upset about it. And I got so much hate from that video, more hate than anything I've ever done in the bodybuilding world. More hate than I think I lost like 2,000 followers talking about homeless people living in my neighborhood in a policy that I didn't agree with.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

That was that was the big one.

SPEAKER_05 56:40

Everything else I just want a better life, John. Just leave your front door open so they can come in and watch the TV.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

Yeah, too nice, people he was like, he was like, uh, I help these people, and I was like, Well, come help these ones, bro. He's like, I'm in New York City, I'll be right there. It's like, okay, like I think you know where I live.

SPEAKER_00 57:03

I could uh I could attest for what uh Goob is saying then because I work in New York City every day and it has gotten worse. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 57:09

Yeah, it has gotten worse. No, no, no, no, but that's all in our head because we don't like the mayor, guys. We're we're imagining it. We're imagining it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I can't wait for the if you guys saw about the uh they're having um it's a uh city-run grocery store. There's apparently gonna be set up grocery stroke where things are subsidized to 30% less than uh what they normally would be. And I don't know, it seems like it's gonna have a ton of problems that nobody's really solved yet. Yeah, it's not gonna work out.

SPEAKER_04 57:40

Yeah, it'll get robbed, it'll get robbed and diluted like every episode.

SPEAKER_02 57:44

Yeah, I'm gonna go buy my welfare cheese. We'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_00 57:47

Yeah, right. Well, Goob, listen, uh, I want to thank you for coming on, man, and thank you for doing what you do. Thanks for watching. It's uh it's actually an honor to have you on, and uh please keep doing what you're doing because you're doing a great job. And uh Lee, of course, all the love and respect in the world. Lee is like we're like fucking buddies, so it's different.

SPEAKER_02 58:02

But uh Lee, Lee, we actually we have a photo together from Lee's got a photo with everybody together at one point or another.

SPEAKER_00 58:11

I know that's the one.

SPEAKER_02 58:12

I don't have one with scene, Factor. I don't have one revenge thing, so that's I have one review. But I it was uh your booth had like just closed. It was like really late at the Arnold, like maybe seven, eight years ago or whatever. You were there with some sort of company that was like it was like some bullshit company that they were closing down and the booth was closed, and you were just sort of standing there, and and I I was like, Lee priest right by himself. I'm gonna go snipe him. And I went up and you know, got it. And my friend who was with me is like this the fucking annoying, like would follow all the YouTube bodybuilder like dudes that aren't that never competed. Yeah, yeah. And I go, I was like, yo Lee, uh take my picture with I take a picture with you, and uh, you know, I I never like st hang people. Okay, bye, because I know you fucking talk to people all day, and that's you know, I like I understand that. Yeah, I know, but it's like you know, I there's times and if there's a line, yeah, there's times and then there's not times. And it was like your booth was closed, you were nice enough, give me a picture, I'm out of there, and I'm off the lane.

SPEAKER_00 59:09

Lee doesn't say no to anybody. It took us 45 minutes. We were in Nashville together, it took us 45 minutes to get from the booth to the front door to leave because everybody kept stopping him. He doesn't say no to anybody.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

Well, well, that's that's and I was like, this is my chance, like go your foot. And we're walking away. My buddy's like, who's and I'm like, dude, you have literally never been to a bodybuilding show. You watch fucking like these 110-pound dudes on YouTube, like, you need to shut the fuck up right now. Like, I'm not even gonna tell you. I'm not even gonna tell you.

SPEAKER_01 59:36

And then he made us the six million dollar mini you fucking.

SPEAKER_02 59:41

But after I felt bad because after I took my photo, a bunch of people they were like, Oh, he's open for photos again, and they just like started materializing. I was like, Oh, this is terrible. I'm like everybody's gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 59:49

That happens all the time. He he could be standing by the bathroom and the a line will uh start. But uh you ever get the shoulder tape?

SPEAKER_05 59:56

If it wasn't for my fans, I wouldn't be where I am and making what I'm making now. So I always appreciate I don't say no to any fans. So even the ones that hate me, I don't say no.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

Have you ever gotten the shoulder tap though? No, no on the urinal?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:11

Oh yes, yes, okay. I've actually I've actually walked in and a guy's pissing holding his dick and then turns around from holding his dick and goes, Oh, hey Lee, how you gonna go in a cubicle? I'm like, I'm gonna cubicle, I'll just pretend I'm taking a shit. So I go in the cubicle and they stand outside the door. So wait, are we doing six? Are they doing six sets for biceps? What do you think I should do? I'm like, I'm like, if I was taking a shit, leave me in fucking peace.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:40

Jesus Christ, people have no fucking chance.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:43

I've taken many, I've taken many photos even at the airport. Last time I would just went to the UK, Sydney Airport. I'm just willing to take a picture. I'm like, that's not a very good backdrop. Doesn't matter. Many pictures where I'm taking a photo and there's urinals behind me.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:57

It's like yeah, you should hey honey, here's me and Lee in the shitter.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:01

Yeah, right, exactly. All right, guys, thank you very much. Goop, thank you for coming on, man. All the respect for the world.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:08

Seriously, anytime, anytime, anytime. I'll be back. I'm happy to, you guys are the best. It was uh Pitanic experience some podcaster, drive. Nobody drives, you guys are on it. Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:18

Thank you very much. All right, fellas, I'll talk to you soon. Take care, thank you.