Shooting The Breeze with John Livia and Lee Priest. Can Nick Walker win the Olympia?

Nick Walker wins Tampa but can he win the Olympia? 
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SPEAKER_05 0:31

All right. We're live, and Lee Priest is back. Hey, seems like it's been forever. Back from the UK.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

Oh, yes. Back from the UK in the land of Oz.

SPEAKER_05 0:43

Some of the picks and vids I saw looks like you had a good time. Looks like it was it was worth it.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

Meeting people every day. And you know, it's like, yes, you get a lot of different questions, but then it's like I'm I feel like that's I'm in Groundhog Day repeating the stripes. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

I'll do a quick rundown of my life story, then I'll just leave it up to them. I say, I'll leave it up to you to ask the questions. And one place was pretty cool because one question was about training. Then the next question was, tell us about a vodka bottle. I'm like, oh here we go.

SPEAKER_05 1:20

And uh apparently Giles is into kites, huh? He likes flying kites.

SPEAKER_02 1:24

Yeah, I started the AI thing, and one of the AI videos is it just had Giles run through the field, and for some reason it gave him a rainbow kite. So that just set the whole tone for the whole. Did you see the last one I put up where he's at home missing us and his cat's like we are fuck off? I didn't see that one. I just put it up, it could have been yesterday or yeah, he's sitting at home going, I want to go on tour again. He's got to be holding onto his kite now, sitting with his cat. The cat goes, I did see that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, but I was busy, and um Chris is going to be the distributor for Crucifix over there. And I think he ordered quite a few tubs and pretty much all sold out over there.

SPEAKER_05 2:04

So, yeah, you know, crucifix is doing great. Yeah, I'm back in stock today. Back in stock today, I heard. Oh, okay, because crucifix is back in stock today. So go to Nutrifit N-U-T-R-I-F-I-T-T. That's two T's for people that are listening. If you buy Crucifix and use discount code priest, you get 20% off. But you if you buy Crucifix and another product from Nutrafit and use the discount code priest, you get 30% off. Yeah, and that's not even Black Friday. Yeah, I know. It's not even that Black Friday. And I I get I use White Wednesday. White Wednesday and uh Muslim Monday.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

I had to ask you, how many drops do you put under your tongue? I because in the morning when I go to get it, I can't read the bottom because my eyes are so blurry in the morning.

SPEAKER_05 2:48

No, I go up to Does it say a mil?

SPEAKER_01 2:50

Does it say a mil?

SPEAKER_05 2:51

Yeah, it does. I go up to one milliliter. Um, and if I can't get it because it's a pain in the ass, sometimes I just do a half a milliliter at a time. But two halves, uh one milliliter of the epitest, and then I've been doing one milliliter of the 19 Nandro.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

I got them all sitting there. So in some mornings, I take one mil of the GH, one mil of the Equimas, and then I take one meal of the Epitest. I just fuck it out every day. I take something different.

SPEAKER_05 3:17

I still have the other ones that I haven't uh tried yet. I'm gonna try start trying. I'm gonna add another one in uh next week. I think it's the Roma, the aroma one too.

SPEAKER_02 3:25

Is it like a Romatessan one too?

SPEAKER_05 3:27

I think I got I'm not sure. I gotta, I think I wanted to try the uh the myostatin blocker.

SPEAKER_02 3:33

Oh, I got that one too. Yeah, I sometimes take that one as well in the morning. I just like I said, whatever I grab, I take like three different ones each morning. So who cares? Something will happen. It's the newlywed. Oh yes, look at him. Holy three.

SPEAKER_05 3:49

Oh, what a fan.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Got the ball in shine now. Welcome to the club.

SPEAKER_05 3:56

I wore my I wore my wedding ring on the day I got married and uh I lost it on my honeymoon. Oh, I don't even wear jewelry.

SPEAKER_03 4:07

I'm still getting it.

SPEAKER_05 4:07

No, the truth of the matter is like I still have my my wedding ring, but I never wear it because I work physically and then and then I go to the gym, so it's like I just don't fucking wear it.

SPEAKER_02 4:19

Mine never comes off. Really? Well, I could, but that never comes off.

SPEAKER_05 4:24

Oh I just uh I just it just gets in the way. And some of the guys at work, they actually have the rubber ones that they actually switch off when you're working. But I'm like, I don't fucking, I'm just getting tattooed, get the tattoo on. Yeah, no, not doing that.

SPEAKER_03 4:38

Things like a size 14. I got like yeah, you have gorilla hands, code figures, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 4:44

Well, when what happened was when we went to go buy the um uh the like obviously the engagement ring was a surprise, right? Obviously. And then when we went to go buy the the wedding bands, I said to my wife, um, look, I'm not let I'm gonna get the cheapest wedding band because I'm I'm not gonna wear it. I was like, I'm I'm working in the sewer all day, and then after that, I'm I I'm at the I'm on the gym, I'm in the gym, so I'm not gonna wear it. So she got a little upset. So I said, Look, pick out whichever one you want. Okay, because the money that we were gonna spend on my wedding ring is now gonna go toward your wedding ring, and then that kind of made her happy. So now, of course, she's got the diamond wedding band, you know. Anyway, all right, bear with me. I gotta vent a little bit. I really had a shitty pick together. All right, just just bear with me, and then we will get into uh Tampa and we'll get into Atlanta and Joe and Nick, right? But I gotta, I have to fucking vent. I five years ago, I bought a Hyundai, and the reason why I bought a Hyundai is because I like a little car to go back and forth to work, something that's practical and good on gas. And the whole reason I went with Hyundai is because they give you a hundred thousand mile warranty. It's 10 years or 100,000 miles, right? So I'm driving to work a week ago, literally, one week last Monday, and I'm by the George Washington Bridge, the fucking smoke starts coming out of the fucking back of the car, the car's overheating. I'm like, what the hell is going on? The car dies. Boom. Long story short, the car dies. Wow. Like nothing. Can't fucking okay. I get a towed to Hyundai because it's supposed to be under warranty. So it's Paramus Hyundai in New Jersey. I get a towed there. That's where I got it from. I get a towed there. Okay. Luckily, the insurance company covered the toe, okay? All right. So I bring it there, and they're like, okay, well, we have to see what's going on with the car. So they they finally figure it out. They do the the diagnostic test, and it's uh the the engine is seized. So I'm like, okay. So they're like, okay. I was like, what does that mean? I was like, oh, we'll get back to it. They give kind of get go back and forth and back and forth. So finally I do the diagnostic test and it turns into a bad crankshaft, which from what I understand is covered under the warranty because five the first five years is bumper to bumper, the next five years is power transmission. That's considered a power. It's it's part of the engine, it is a major part of the engine, it should be warranted. So I'm like, okay, well, you guys are gonna warranty it. Uh we don't know. But what do you mean you don't know? It's under warranty. I then so the guy goes, the guy who's been helping me, and but and he's been nice, don't get me wrong. The guy at the service department, he's been really trying because I'm like freaking out, right? He goes, Can you produce any paperwork showing that you kept up with the car? I was like, I'll do what I can, right? Shouldn't that be in their records out? Shouldn't that be in their computer? Well, because I didn't go to them all the time.

SPEAKER_03 7:43

Oh, you gotta go to them hold.

SPEAKER_05 7:44

Oh, right, you know, so I I produced three uh receipts from December of 2025 till now, where and on all three receipts were oil changes. Other stuff was done, and on all were all uh and then two years ago, uh two years ago, I did bring it there and I paid out of pocket to have a job worth done there. So they have four clearly I've been keeping up with the car, okay? This is not negligence, right? Because that's what they're trying to prove negligence. So I give them the paperwork, I give them everything. Okay. Oh, oh, do you have a loaner? Uh uh we would give you one, but we don't have one available. Great. So now I gotta pay out of pocket to go get a rental, right? Oh, so that's what I did today after work. So I'm paying out of pocket to go get a rental, right? Okay, I speak to them today. They tell me, I swear to god, Eric, don't bullshit. They go, they want to tear down the engine, take more pictures, and send it to corporate. And I said, Okay, and they're like, but they'll send it to Japan.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

We're gonna send it to Japan, have them look at it.

SPEAKER_05 8:48

Right, yeah. I know is Hyundai Japanese or Korean?

SPEAKER_02 8:51

Fuck them, it's all the same. Yeah, and then both their rides do this shit.

SPEAKER_05 8:55

Yeah, right. So um, uh and I was like, this one they're not gonna pay, they don't want to pay for it, they'll only pay for it if the customer pays for it. So I'm like, okay, if I pay for it, do I get reimbursed if it's warranted? I don't know. It's all I don't know. I really got mad at the guy that I've been dealing with. I went his name is Felix, and he's a nice guy, don't get me wrong. And I was like, Felix, do you fucking know anything? Like, really, right? So he's like, I'm trying, I'm trying. So I was like, all right, let me fucking calm down, whatever. Okay. I call him, he goes, let me find out. Call him back. He's like, I don't know. So now in between this, I called corporate, like I went over his head and I called the corporate uh number for it. And they told me the same thing. Yeah, we're waiting for it to see if it gets approved. I'm like, Jesus Christ, what it's under 100,000 miles, it's 91,000 miles, it's a 2019, it's under 10 years old. I don't how much more do you fucking want? Certified pre-owned, which means the warranty sticks, right? Because I bought it in 2021 or something like that, right? So I said, I get them on the phone and I go, you know what? Pay it, I'll pay it. Do it, I'll pay it. Because now my attitude is I think they're trying to like discourage me from keeping the car there. They want me to go, you know what, don't it's not worth it. I'll just get a new car. So they won't warranty it. But fuck that. My attitude is no, you it's warranted. So, you know, no, I'll pay the $900 for you to break it down because in order, if I get a if to change that whole engine, it's probably gonna cost $11,012,000, which that they don't want to do, and they're trying to do that, and it's at 91,000 miles, so they're like, like, this probably happens at exactly $100,000, $110,000.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

And they're like, once the warranty's up, it normally five happens.

SPEAKER_05 10:44

Yeah, right? It's like fuck all, but no, it's not. The warranty is not up, it's 91,000 miles, it's less than 10 years old, so you guys got to warranty it. They are giving me the runaround like nobody's business, dude. So I gotta pay for this breakdown so they take more pictures, even though they already know what's wrong with the car. And then and then they won't give me a loaner, so I had to pay out of pocket for a fucking loaner. And they don't know whether they're gonna reimburse me if I'm warrantied, and they don't know if they're gonna approve my warranty, which I should be warranted. So, what's the point of buying a Hyundai and driving around this little fucking faggot car to begin with? If if the warranty isn't good, if they're not gonna honor the warranty, I might as well go get the car that I want, you know. Fuck Paramis Hyundai. Fuck Hyundai, and especially fuck Paramis Hyundai in New Jersey. It's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

Hope they fucking get blown up.

SPEAKER_05 11:35

Yeah, so I'm already looking at worst case scenario, which is I'm gonna wind up junking the car and buying a new one, which I shouldn't. They should give me a new whole new engine or rebuilt engine.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

Are you gonna go to Hyundai and buy a new engine?

SPEAKER_05 11:47

Yeah, oh, I will never fucking buy a Hyundai again. Go to Toyota down the road.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

Toyota's a pretty good, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 11:54

No, I'm gonna buy a mechanic at all. I'm gonna buy a car that I want. I'm not gonna buy a little shitty car again. What's the point? The whole you look nice in a Camry. Oh, yeah. Well, that's the what that's the way. If the warranty held up, I would be like, Yeah, it's worth it, right? That's the whole point. That it it was practical, good on gas, gets me back and forth to work. The wife has the nice car. If we go out, we got the nice car. My wife has a BMW, so right, and then um, what do you call it? And then I was like, Well, what's the point? If I'm not gonna, if they're not gonna, you know, honor the warranty, I'm just gonna go get the car that I actually like and not the not the practical one, you know. But anyway, that that that was my week, Eric. And then and then last week, I was waiting for them to give me a I was not waiting for them to give me a fucking loner because they're like, oh well, we don't have one, maybe we'll have one tomorrow. They give me a runaround about that. So I was using my fucking bike because I have a motorcycle, you know. Uh huh. And uh of course, did it rain at all when you didn't? It rained in the traffic on the George Washington Bridge in the rain. They they you know that it rained twice, and then finally, like today, I it was pouring out how many times did you sit on the bike going, fuck my life? Oh, dude, I was so I was raging pissed off Friday because it was pouring out. And here's the thing that you don't understand about rain. Not only does I don't have one of those uh Holly Davidson's with the uh with the big uh thing in the front of it, the what do they call it?

SPEAKER_02 13:28

The bearing it hits you like rocks, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_05 13:31

Yeah, so yeah, I have a you know uh on a on a breakout with the um ape hangers up high, and there's nothing in front of me. So not only are you getting hit with the with the rain from the sky, you're getting kicked up from the water from the car in front of you. So all my so my pants are soaked, my shirt, my jacket is soaked because all the water's getting kicked up on me. Jesus Christ, I want the slide. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

So what are you driving now?

SPEAKER_05 14:06

Well now I got a rental, I got a central, I just picked up the rental. And uh honestly, if I can't go for another eight, nine hundred dollars, that won't make sense if they try to if they try to like stonewall me again. So if they try to stonewall me again, I'm gonna just I gotta go get another car. It is what it is, and I will just never get fucking a Hyundai again. And I'm clipping this, and this is going on TikTok, Facebook, Instagram.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Um I shall share it and hopefully Paramus Hyundai has a Instagram page I can tag them in.

SPEAKER_05 14:37

That's right, exactly. All right, Eric. Before we get to Tampa, how is it being a married man? You got married last week, dude. Yeah, it doesn't feel any different. Yeah, because you already live with your wife and you already have a kid.

SPEAKER_03 14:52

So we lived together for close to four years.

SPEAKER_05 14:55

Yeah, so it's just a big party you had, that's all. Ceremony and the party. How was the party?

SPEAKER_03 15:00

It was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

Yeah, how was the cake? How was the cake? Is the question?

SPEAKER_05 15:05

That was a normal, like a basic cake. Yeah, basic cake. Do you do the whole big bootella giant cake Italian like we do?

SPEAKER_03 15:14

No, we did like a we did like a small one, and then they just yeah, like divide it. We had like 160 people there.

SPEAKER_05 15:20

Uh that's a that's a pretty big wedding. At Italian weddings, everything is over the top.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

Is it one of those two? If you got that many people where you really had to strategically don't sit them near them because they could fight was it one of those people?

SPEAKER_03 15:33

Yeah, they don't like each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like three or four hours to get all the seating together.

SPEAKER_05 15:38

Yeah, it's ridiculous. I went to that. I went to it. I can't sit there with this one.

SPEAKER_03 15:42

My bachelor party was three of the guys dated the current girlfriends of the other ones. So it was like fucking drama.

SPEAKER_02 15:54

It's a small, I live in a small town, so everybody felt like three of the guys dated the same girl. Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_03 16:04

No, yeah, three yeah, it's all a it's a little bit of a shit show.

SPEAKER_05 16:09

It sounds like honestly, it sounds like Game of Thrones. They're all sleeping, a lot of incest and shit going on. Holy shit. Uh, what are you, one of those Appalachian people?

SPEAKER_03 16:21

It's like we're like the only bodybuilders around here, and the girls go for the same guys.

SPEAKER_05 16:26

Oh, I see. Okay, okay. No, not in Jersey or in New York, that's for sure. All right, so let's get to the weekend. Uh, Nick blew everybody away. Yeah, I mean, Nick, Nick's Nick's back shot. Nick came out and it was all over. I mean, it was rigging. But now, let's be fair. It's Tampa. And I know everybody is like, Nick could win the Olympia, and Nick could win the Olympia, don't get me wrong, but this is Tampa. This isn't the Olympia or the Arnold Classic. You had great bodybuilders, you had um uh James, you had to give it to James.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

James is still improving and looking like even after like China and he traveled over here to that, and he's still, I think he actually looked a bit crisper than China. So hopefully, if he keeps doing the shows, he's only gonna get better. Because generally, like I said to him, because he's great, sent me a couple of messages saying thanks for the support. But I think sometimes, yes, your body can close down, but if you can still hang on mentally, mentally it's generally when you lose it more than physically, you just give up, you're just like I'm burned out, I can't do it anymore. So he seems in a good frame of mind, and you know, like I said, getting seconds is great. He's always just knocking on that door, it's a bit frustrating. There's a few shows to go, so finger fingers crossed for James that in the next. I think there's three more shows, isn't there?

SPEAKER_05 17:42

Texas, there's Atlanta, Texas, and the one in Austria, Austria, Austria, yes, yeah. Yeah, so uh all right, Eric, before we get to uh James and uh Joe, and I also want to talk about Charles Griffin. Uh Nick. I mean, I I know what you're gonna say, but give us your opinion on what you thought of Nick when he came out.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

Oh, yeah, I thought that was the best he's ever looked.

SPEAKER_05 18:02

Really? Yeah, yeah. I thought it was credit, I thought it was comparable to the Arnold, but I thought the Arnold was a little better. Oh, those, especially those back shots. Those those were his rear double bye is fucking insane.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

And he controlled his waist very well, and then all of a sudden, when he gives his speech at the end, it's like the contest is over now, he can let it hang out. Who gives a fuck? That's when it's when he was competing, when he was competing in the comparisons and in between, he held it tight where it should be. Now he's happy at the end, the pressure's off, so he lets it hang out. Who gives a fuck?

SPEAKER_05 18:38

Yeah, I know, but he really did held on, he really controlled his waist well. His I mean, he is just becoming a better and better and better bodybuilder. His posing, his stage presence, he's improving. I don't know how he keeps improving, but he just does his rear double by. I used to say Derek's rear double by was one of the best I've ever seen. It's in the top of rear double bytes of all time. Nick's rear double by is fucking insane. Especially, I love when somebody does a rear double by or a or or a real lat spread, and you could see the adductors and how thick their legs are, you know, and some guys just don't have that, and you can actually see the space in between the legs, and Derek doesn't have that. So uh Nick's adductors are so thick and they're fucking together, and you can see it. Another guy that does that is Chris Masaro, he has the same kind of legs, but that is just so impressive, dude. Fucking unreal, and the detail in his back is insane.

SPEAKER_02 19:38

Uh actually, I just answered Christo's 78 question. He asked that question about what Lee, what my thoughts on people criticizing Nick. And the thing is, dude, no matter who's in shape, even me, I had a 29-inch waist. If I just sort of relaxed it, it would stick out a bit. Everyone's does. It's like yeah, you can be the skinniest person. Your stomach's gonna push out a bit if you relax it. So I don't see what the thing, the whole big criticism is because the contest was over. He's relaxed, he's happy now, he's just breathing normal. So this whole thing, look at his waist, is still big. It wasn't when it counted, so shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_05 20:12

Or when they do a rear shot, right? And then it counts and then they have a side pick, yeah, and he's on a real shot, and it's and he lets his stomach out because nobody's looking at it, and then it's just ridiculous, dude. It's ridiculous. I don't know what you want me to say. He couldn't he control look. Nick is be like I said, and he's becoming a better bodybuilder, stage presence, confidence, posing, and he's improving. The guy is he it takes a very, very special bodybuilder to beat Nick. There's only a handful of guys that can beat Nick, and and those guys, and as good as James was, that wasn't even close. It wasn't even close. You know, Nick is the only guys that could really beat Nick are the top five in the Olympia. That's it. No, the Andrew Jackson Samson, Derek.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

And they have and they have to be on too. Like I said, if any of them come in, if Nick comes in like that, or even just say he does a one percent even tighter, if that's possible. Yeah, if any of those like Derek comes in like last year, and because I do think Derek was at his best last year when he won, if they come in not as hard and stuff like that, I think Nick can easily push him out the way.

SPEAKER_05 21:17

No, you're 100% right. Nick kind Derek kind of got lucky last year. Uh Nick was off, he was he was flat, and Samson came down way too much where he just didn't look good, right? Um, and then Hottie uh was a close second. So uh if I if you know Samson is not fooling around, Nick is not playing games either. Samson's not playing games, Nick is not playing games. I don't think Hottie is playing games either. He has that fucking drive. And don't forget, you still got guys like like Martin and Tonio and Chriso. I mean, these guys, Brandon, own at these guys are the best in the world. And then they're not fucking around. Especially a big Martin.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

Martin now then can still come in and surprise a lot of people.

SPEAKER_05 22:06

Martin has his head on straight. Um, forget about his attitude. Uh, we all know he's got a shit attitude. But if he has his head on straight, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:14

He can he can mess those couple of guys up there.

SPEAKER_05 22:17

He could throws a he could throw a monkey wrench in that whole lineup because you know, when he comes in shape, you gotta be really good to beat him.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

I mean, you know, I he won what was it, Portugal and beat Samson yes last year after Samson tried to uh tried to like basically and then when Samson won the Olympia, Sampson wasn't shredded, shredder, he was cut enough with his size and shape to give him the win. But I'm thinking now if these guys start coming in better condition, that being just cut enough ain't gonna cut it. And Andrew's shape too. When he's on, your eyes just go, the eye just go to him because he just looks so freaky, like the cartoon character.

SPEAKER_05 23:01

Yeah, he's another guy that gets better and better and better. And even his posing is getting better, and it's just you know, I I mean, I know everybody talks about you know the the early 2090s and the early 2000s, there's no question about it. It's probably the deepest deepest lineup of bodybuilders ever. Yes, I was there, I remember. I know you're one of them 100%. You're one of them, you beat Russia. But this lineup of open bodybuilders is no joke, man. They it really isn't the joke. Even the bottom guys, even guys like Tony, Chris, Jordan, Martin, these guys are that uh eventually you see how that Russian sergei guy does whatever.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

That guy's a fucking animal. I know, I know in um Austria. I think James's main competition there could be that. Is it Juan or Juan or uh uh uh Joan Pradales? I think he I think he's doing Austria.

SPEAKER_05 23:52

Yeah, he is. Joan Rivers is doing is that a new show? Yeah, it is. Yeah, what's it called? The Austrian Oak.

SPEAKER_03 24:00

Okay, but after Arnold?

SPEAKER_02 24:02

Yeah, I think I gotta take a phone.

SPEAKER_05 24:05

Go ahead. All right, Eric, let's go to James. He came in second. What'd you think? I thought it was really impressive. What'd you think?

SPEAKER_03 24:11

Oh, yeah. Just like I mean, this is like his year. He's been he's been on pretty much every show.

SPEAKER_05 24:16

It's kind of like what you went through where you came in second two uh two shows in in the row, but he came in second three shows in a row. Now it's gotta be a little frustrating, right? I mean, tell me how frustrating it is when you're that close.

SPEAKER_03 24:28

Yeah, I mean, probably it's probably not for him because he knew how good Nick looked. Like that was you know, that yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_05 24:33

We let's make the except yes. The last two shows were definitely more frustrating, right?

SPEAKER_03 24:38

I think they should give an automatic qualification to top five. Remember, it used to be top five, now it's top three.

SPEAKER_05 24:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:44

At the Olympia, right? It's like it's you know, if you're fourth or fifth, that's uh you're still fucking smoking anyone. Yeah, yeah, you're still smoking anybody, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 24:53

Right. You go you could win any small show, any Atlanta, Tampa, Texas, New York. Yeah, exactly. You're 100% right. But James man looked phenomenal. I mean, the oodles of muscle, and then the dense you could see the years of weight pounding and that heavy weight pounding comes through on James, you know, that graininess from all those years of heavy pushing weight. You know, Hardy's got it too, you know, but Hardy's just got better structure.

SPEAKER_02 25:23

This is the best, like I said, James went through that period for a while where he was good, but then he sort of yeah, he just sort of lost it, not lost his way, but whatever the drive was gone. But now, like I said, this is probably you know, some people say when you get to that when you get to that age, you start going this way. But this is the best James we've seen. Yeah, I'll be the first way.

SPEAKER_05 25:41

I was writing James off saying it's probably an eight.

SPEAKER_02 25:43

I think the guy he's got is a coach, but it's also a friend of his and stuff. So I think they just click. And if you click and your mind's right, that can make a whole different in this sport. Like I said, you can be strong physically. I said, but if you if you're not strong mentally in this sport, you're gonna go fucking nowhere.

SPEAKER_05 25:59

Absolutely, absolutely. So now let's talk about the gorilla in the room because he did look like a fucking gorilla. Yes, uh, Joe Palacios.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

Yeah, so if he just comes in a little bit tighter and stuff, like he's got he's got all the size he needs. If he just brings that conditioning in more, he's gonna, like I said, do damage. That's all that was missing was the conditioning, really.

SPEAKER_05 26:19

If he was five or ten percent penny, it would have clearly came in.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

And it's just water, he could it wasn't fat, he could just tell it's just so water there.

SPEAKER_05 26:25

So but Eric, did his his side shots, he's so massive, even on the Instagram pictures. He has that mac truck density on his side chest. His chest and his chest is probably one of the biggest threats. He just looks like a fucking Mac truck. What'd you what'd you think?

SPEAKER_03 26:45

I thought the same thing. He's he's massive. Probably I don't know what he weighed on stage, but 260 in the low 260s.

SPEAKER_05 26:51

I took I spoke to Justin.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

And he's about what 5'9.

SPEAKER_05 26:55

Uh, I think he's 5'8, 5'9. Yeah, he's in the lows.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

That's one where I think he'll get tighter for Atlanta and push January.

SPEAKER_05 27:03

And then even tighter for Texas.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:05

Because um, the thing is in Atlanta now you got Regan Grimes.

SPEAKER_02 27:11

Yep, yeah, and Forrest Ars was the top 10. Yes, Forrest. Back in my day, the top ten requalified for the Olympia H.

SPEAKER_05 27:18

Yes, that's right. Yeah, he did. But now it's the top three, yeah, and then the winner of every uh every show. But now you got Regan Grimes coming in to this show, and he could do damage. He's looking good. He has, you know, out of everybody that's doing the show, he probably has the best structure, you know.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

I just want to say one more thing about Joe, too. He actually put out a nice video talking about Nick and James and on it too. He's very complimentary. You know, some people get upset when they get beat, but he did a nice respectful video about who was competing against.

SPEAKER_05 27:51

Joe is uh that Joe Joe is becoming like probably my favorite at this point because he's respectful, he's professional, he um he's a gentleman, he never has a bad word to say about anybody, he never goes after the um the uh fucking the trolls, right? He just brushes it off and he just gets better. I I I messaged him and I said, You know, you could win Atlanta. And he wrote back, he goes, I know, I have to make the right adjustments. Me and Justin are working on it. That's it. He just so he knows he dropped the ball, but every bodybuilder drops the ball at one point or another, and he's just gonna pick up the pieces and get better for the next show. I guarantee he's gonna be harder in Atlanta, and guaranteed he's gonna be even harder at Texas. Oh, yeah. Oh, a hundred percent. Now, the other guy I want to talk about who took fourth place, and and and he's he's been on my show twice uh when I first started, Charles Griffin. Great guy, great guy. Here's the thing that threw me over. I didn't think he deserved fourth. And hear me out. The reason why I didn't think he deserved fourth is his pec tear is so bad, I just kept looking at it. His his right, because I don't know if you remember, uh, he had a bad pec tear. He was doing a workout, and it was in the gym with the dunk, and you could still it's it's it's just it's really bad. And every time he was posing, and obviously he did the right thing, every side shot he would go to the opposite side of his pec tear. But when he did his most muscular, when he did uh any of the front shots, you can clearly see it. And I, you know, I always thought that if you have a pector or tricep tear, a bicep tear, you know, it throws your whole symmetry off.

SPEAKER_02 29:37

I don't know, but what do you think? But then we saw Dorian win with a torn bicep tricep and bloated. I think when Dorian won his last one, I love Dorian and the freakiness, but Nessa should have won that because everybody Dorian was like bloated, like you said, you talk about not holding your stomach in, and then the bicep tricep tears. Like when you got tears like that, to me, you should all it's almost like you lose a point automatically. It's like it's like to me sometimes when I see guys win, say like a bigger guy wins, but I mean like he's got zero calves, just shins, and the guy beside him might be a little bit smaller, but he's got great calves, it's complete. I'm like, well, overall, he's the better bodybuilder, he's got fucking calves. The guy that runs missing a whole body part.

SPEAKER_05 30:18

Yeah, no, you're right. But Eric, is it me? Because you you're you're a younger and you are in the trenches and you've been on stage and you know what the judges think. Is it me, or do they not care about the muscle tears anymore? Because I would think they should, but what did you think?

SPEAKER_03 30:34

I don't I mean, his shape and conditioning was still there, so yeah. Well, why they and for him.

SPEAKER_05 30:43

Let me uh pull him up. Where is he?

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Okay, and okay, and he taken how many years did he have off lately? It's been like for two or two years.

SPEAKER_05 30:52

Yeah, you know, he didn't have the size of the other guys, he clearly had the conditioning. I mean, his quad, his quad separation is insane, right? But can you guys see this?

SPEAKER_03 31:04

It's loading. Yeah, I think yeah, I think fourth is because the dude who got fifth, I I think Charles was better than him.

SPEAKER_05 31:12

And and Charles got pissed that he got fourth. But even in this shot, you could see the pector right here, right? Uh oh, what happened?

SPEAKER_02 31:20

Well, that's where I said, I guess what the judges are looking for, you could have made an argument, okay. Joe had the size and that, and Charles has size and conditioning. What were the judges looking for there between third and fourth? Because I don't think you know Charles would have beat James or Nick, no way. But so when it comes to Joe, maybe it could have been well conditioning over the mass of Joe. So it's hard to say what judges were looking for there for the those placings.

SPEAKER_05 31:46

No, I thought one obviously I think they had one to three, right? It's just the four, it's just it that's all it was, really, with me with that pec tear. That pec tear was driving me fucking nuts. Uh, do they have oh, okay, here we go. So uh see, he went to the other side, which is a smart move, right? Um okay, you can see it a little bit with the front double pie, but it's not that bad. His legs, him and he's separated all the way up to his fucking posing trunks. That's like Chris Cormier separately.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

When you're scrolling, I think the YouTube's a bit behind. That one of Nick just standing like that, relaxed front on. That one says Nick Walker first place. If you go back to the main page, okay.

SPEAKER_05 32:29

Let's see. Hold on.

SPEAKER_02 32:31

It's got Nick's name and for there. That one. That's very. If you go back and look at Dorian back in the day, that's very Dorian fitness looking that was standing like that.

SPEAKER_05 32:40

Yeah, and he's doing the front relaxed well.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

He's not he doesn't have to be uh if you look at Dorian back at some Dorian had his arms like that. You can see the fitness through the lats, the arms, the chest, and that reminds me very much of Dorian when Dorian would stand like that back in the day.

SPEAKER_05 32:58

I see you could see Charles's pec tear right there. You know, that's just throwing me off. I keep looking at it. Like every time I look at Charles' shots, I look at that. Um let me see. Let me go back to Charles. Here we go. Uh he does a good vacuum. He does a good vacuum. His back is uh really detailed, uh it's but it's not as thick as James, Nick's, or uh Joe's. I mean that's that goes without saying, right? That's pretty you know, uh that then they don't show any of the other ones, but you can clearly see the pec tear here and here. And there's another one. Is there another one? No, that's it. But when he did his uh, you know, he likes to do the crab shot, you could see it. And then when he does um any of the front la any of them, you could see you could fucking see it.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

But how old are you? How old is he? Charles has got to be uh I would say late 30s. Yeah, not in his forties, not not ready for the master's O yet.

SPEAKER_05 34:07

Yeah, no, not yet. Let me see. Oh, by the way, uh actually Phil Kohar said he's doing the master's O next time.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

I saw that. I saw he put up a thing saying he's going back for redemption.

SPEAKER_05 34:16

And he should, you know. And and and what do you what what what's great about it, he realizes that that's his that's where it should be.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

But do you think though, because he's very like he's like me, he talks about the good and the bad, but whenever you talk about the bad, the IP seem to focus more on that. And of course he's on Matt's show and him and Matt talk about the politics. Do you think that might hold him back from? Oh, absolutely. It'd be interesting. It'd be interesting when they go to judge him, would they judge him fairly on his physique or shit that he has said on the podcast with Matt?

SPEAKER_05 34:49

I hope not, because by that point, there should be a bunch of other gossip we could talk about. That was by that point, it'll be three years or two years. Uh, how old is Josh? Oh shit, he is, he's 44. I didn't know that. Yeah, you can do it.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

Hey, Carl Group, he'd be a he'd be a contender for the master's out.

SPEAKER_05 35:07

Absolutely. Oh, no question, he'd probably win. Uh, this other kid, Colossus Ken. He's another one. He just got has to come in sharper. Um Lee, is it because they guys like Ken and guys like Joe, they put on muscle so quick that it's a little bit more difficult to get leaner and harder and have that hard graininess?

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Yeah, I don't think so. Because I've seen guys do it back in the day. I think it's just a point of learning your body and learning that point of sometimes you know, you want to stay full and be hard, whereas sometimes guys can that side can get hard, but then they look flat. So I think it's just a matter of time finding that perfect balance of you know being full and hard. So some of them are full, but they're still a little bit watery. And then you see the other guy who will get hard, but then they look flat. So it's like you gotta find that balance.

SPEAKER_05 36:01

Eric, what do you think? You think it's a possibility that all this new muscle and it's very difficult to get that lean? Let's look how you know James go ahead, Eric. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 36:11

No, I don't think so. I I gained 20 pounds in one year before the USA's, and I I got just as hard as I always have.

SPEAKER_05 36:19

Okay, so then maybe it's just a matter of learning your body or just time.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

Yeah, and maybe not like I said, don't look at the scope because some guys get so obsessed by their weight, they think, oh, I'm losing size, I'm losing muscle. When we've seen it, we've seen it a hundred times. If you come in that little, say you lose an extra five pounds and you come in crisper, you're gonna look 15 pounds bigger on stage. It's all an illusion. The harder you are and the more detailed you are, you fucking look so much bigger on stage. You come in a little bit off, you look a bit smoother on stage.

SPEAKER_05 36:51

So the other the last guy I want to talk about, obviously, Patrick Moore came in sixth. They forgot who it was that came in fifth. Um, that guy should be proud of himself because he actually broke the top five. I forgot his name because he's not really well known, but he broke the top five in a really tough lineup. Um the other guy I want to talk about is uh Tim Budeshame. Eric. I don't know if you ever competed with him. Um I don't know if you've been on stage with him. What is it about him that he can never break the top five or top six? He he's a monster. He comes in hard. I I know it's a structure issue, but I think it's his shape. It's a shape, right? His conditioning's there. And he's a big dude. He's a monster, absolutely. His conditioning is always on point. Uh, it's gotta be his shape and his his way. He's got a very thick waist. I don't know. Let me see if I can find him here and then I'll share it.

SPEAKER_02 37:50

But it just Not to change the subject, you don't like my young LA talk. Why am I wearing it? Because I can't. If anyone's trying to message me on Instagram, I've still got 10 hours of ban to go because I shared a young LA post of the compression shirt, the Batman and Superman one. Yeah, and then I got a notification saying that goes against copyright and that, and I can fight it. So I did, and then it says, here is your case number, and here is the person that reported you. The person that reported me, if you see my post, was young LA.

SPEAKER_05 38:22

Ah, all right. So he doesn't I'll I'll share this. He doesn't have any um what do you call it? Shots up yet from the show. But this was a week ago. And uh, you know, I know I understand by himself, he looks great, but I think it's it's gotta be a structure. He's got that long torso and it's thick. He has looks like he's got a high lat insertion, but he's got the size and conditions, just like you said. Yeah, he does have the size. I would I would love to see if there's a back shot here. Let me see. No back shot. If if he doesn't put back shots up, well, that's your answer. Right? I mean, here's a little bit of a back shot. See, the thing is on Instagram with the goon light, they all look that fucking good.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

You gotta compare it to I've walked out of some I've walked out of some bathrooms in hotels, and the lighting's just that good. I think I can make a fucking comeback, and then I go to the other light and like, nah.

SPEAKER_05 39:26

Yeah, right, yeah, yeah. All right, here we go. This was I think Portugal, if I'm if I'm not, if I'm right. But how tall, how tall is he, do you know? Tim? Let me see. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 39:36

I think he's about five's nine. Is he okay? I just couldn't tell with the other guy standing beside him what sort of and he's it's it's gotta be a structure issue.

SPEAKER_05 39:46

It has to be. His legs are retarded, he comes in chiseled and grainy. Okay, yeah, it's gotta be a structure issue. Uh um, but because these guys are just let's see, here we go. I know, because you look at him and you go, Oh, this guy should do well, and then he never fucking does well, you know. I mean, he's an impressive guy, but yeah, he's got the long torso.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

I wonder if it just comes down to the judges sometimes. Like I said, judges are human, they have what they like, but it's like you look at him, you think, shit, you know, he's got everything there. It almost looks like uh who's the guy that passed away that used to compete back in my day.

SPEAKER_05 40:32

Um art on the wood?

SPEAKER_02 40:33

Art Atwood, yeah, Art Atwood, yeah. Yeah, Art Atwood. There was a lot of guys. I don't remind me, I'm still here. But he reminds me a bit of Art Atwood type body.

SPEAKER_05 40:45

Yeah, you're right. Yeah, and art never really did well.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

Yeah, he did okay, but he was always just in that middle rank type thing. And I think it was because art had that sort of his shape wasn't the best, you know.

SPEAKER_05 40:57

Yeah, and he was a freak, he was another big boy. All right, let's get rid of that. Okay, so now we're going to Atlanta, and everybody plus Regan is going to Atlanta. You know, Jane, at this point, you gotta believe James is gonna be in the same shape because he's been keeping his he's been keeping his condition and fullness and graininess throughout in the last four shows. Um, so you gotta believe he's gonna come in the same way. Joe, I guarantee you, Joe comes in harder. They because I already spoke to Justin and him, and they already know what they have to do to change it. I even I even saw a post with uh his friend that helps him posing in the gym. He they already know that they have that he's gotta come in harder. Um now, how much harder? And the problem is now you got Regan Grimes, and Regan doesn't look like he's fucking around either. Regan looks fucking good, you know.

SPEAKER_02 41:52

I can never put my things on Regan because like I said, Regan, when he's on, he's on, but then Regan, we've seen him so many times just be that little off, and when he's a little off, he looks a lot off for some reason.

SPEAKER_05 42:02

So yeah, and uh he really looks. Let me see if I can find a couple of good shots of him. And then okay, well, here's here's a back shot of him, right? And even though we're watching it on Instagram, because we know some people you know have a problem with Instagram, aka uh who's the guy you debated last week?

SPEAKER_02 42:25

Milos.

SPEAKER_05 42:26

Milos, it's just you're saying this is fake? You're saying that how ridiculous was that? We're gonna get to that. That's ridiculous. But Regan and this shot looks fucking good, man. What do you think, Eric?

SPEAKER_03 42:37

Oh, yeah. Yeah, he looks way harder than he was. Uh what he compete last year, or I think it's a good year off.

SPEAKER_05 42:44

I thought he maybe he did, I'm not sure. Um, and I'm trying to see if we can find another another shot. Is this recent? Oh no, this is fucking a month ago.

SPEAKER_02 42:54

Oh the only thing I can see happening there would be if James comes in better and better and Joe comes in better, it could be between there. Like Riga looks good there, but being Regan's show, he's gonna have to nail it first go because sometimes your first show might just be that little bit off.

SPEAKER_05 43:11

Yeah, uh a hundred a hundred percent uh agreed.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

Whereas like James is on the roll now, and Joe's got done one, he's going to the second one. So, you know, he could turn up Riga might turn up like Joe did and just be that little bit watery and then fuck, you know.

SPEAKER_05 43:25

You're right, you're right. Get the nerves off after that first. I'll tell you, you know, Jay Jay. I was always a fan of James, but he's made me even more of a fan of him because the for some reason, the guys that won't let up, the guys that keep trying, the guy I'm a I I've said this before. I'm the fan of two types of bodybuilders, Eric, right? The freaks, the mass monsters, and the guys that don't give up. The guys that just go and go, like they they just like and the the guy like last it was Sauce. Like everybody wanted to see Sauce win because he came in second. I don't know how many times. Now it's James. Now everybody and James is a gentleman.

SPEAKER_02 43:57

So like he's in a good place mentally. too with the baby now and his life and stuff. So like I said, if you're in a good place mentally, that makes a huge difference.

SPEAKER_05 44:06

Especially if you have a good woman behind behind you, like you know, somebody like Eric or or James, or you know, a lot of these guys, you skies is the limit if you got a good a good wife behind you. And then if you got a shit wife behind you, you might as well put a 38 to the roof over to get it. You know? And we saw that Sergio went through that. Yeah, exactly. Sergio went through that. Uh uh John Delarosa went through that. Um a lot of the guys go through that because they wind up dating and hanging out with these fucking shit like girlies.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

My buddy my buddy was uh married two years ago or a year ago she just gave him hell all the time and finally got divorced and then this year he gained like 25 pounds of muscle. I'm not he's about to get his pro card at North America.

SPEAKER_05 44:51

Yeah there you go that's it's the truth. I don't know what it is but it's like if you if you have a good woman it's sky sky's the limit and we've seen it we've seen it and if you have a fucking woman that is just toxic forget it.

SPEAKER_02 45:05

It's you forget if if you don't have a woman I think just being in the right head space just makes a yeah like I said like I said like I said people think it's all physical with the training and cardio and eating but mentally like I said that's the main part of it and you're a piece in your mind and feel good positive and you're in a good mood that makes a huge difference.

SPEAKER_05 45:26

Yeah so let's uh let's talk about you and Milos. I did a video last year last week I did muscle talk by myself and I wanted to do muscle talk by myself because I wanted to rip Milos apart which I did and I put it on Instagram.

SPEAKER_02 45:40

I don't know why here's what I here's what I don't understand about Milos that's one bodybuilding is about criticism like you're going on stage you're taking your clothes off and you're exposing to the world and the judges and you're saying critique me judge me here I am judge me right you're literally at that's the whole fucking sport right judge me I'm going to get in the best shape I can possibly get in this guy's gonna do the same judge me but when somebody has an opinion outside the judges to Milos it's like holy all hell breaks loose it's I'm sorry to go but in our IFB thing I sent you some of the chat where I just said look James was better look nothing against and when that whole thing was well we saw how Bruze looked two weeks out you know when we knew James was going it's like James is going to qualify once we saw these pictures of Bruze it's like fuck James ain't winning because every Bruze looking like that is hard no one can beat Bruze almost looking like that. Yeah and when I said to V Lost I thought Bruze was going to win like I had Bruce in first place I said but when he showed up and he didn't look like those Instagram pictures he was off and that it's like what do you mean you look like them you're saying they're fake you say I said no I said how we looked on stage you look nothing like those pictures whether what happened to travel you said he had a cold and this that plays into but you can't tell me he looked like those pictures he's like no I said well that's all I'm saying I'm just saying and here and here's the thing he won like literally could Milos could be like I don't give a shit what are you saying my guy won and he's going to the Olympia like that should be the attitude that's why I keep saying this this is why I like Chrisito because he doesn't give a shit he does his talking when his clients are winning Derek and Andrew.

SPEAKER_05 47:34

And I made that point I was like look how much criticism Derek gets from Lee because Lee didn't think he should win Mr Olympia and his biceps aren't Mr. Olympia bicep est this is what Lee critic criticizes him for. And Chris doesn't say a fucking thing he doesn't give a shit his whole attitude is yeah well more tough shit my guy's Mr Olympia and and that's it. And and my my other guy is uh my other guy is uh an auto classic winner so I don't I don't know what to tell you you know he just he does his job he gets the win and he moves on where Milo's was just you said he looked like a condom full of cheese and it was like and you were trying to correct him and I love how he tried to get out of it. All right well let's get to the point and you were like no no no no no no no no let's stay on this because that's not what I said.

SPEAKER_02 48:26

But he's the one that said he looked like black boot polish and I just said he looked like a black condom full of coal. What do you mean? It's like I didn't say jizz I said coal and then oh man but the thing was too and then I said he got robbed because if you saw the text I only seen some of it every time I said something he would highlight it and quote it and get mad and mad and at the end I kept saying but I still love you and I was just getting him riled up because we're driving in the car I'm just writing stuff and he's getting angry and angry thinking if you couldn't work out that I was trolling you Milos to get you mad well that's that's another thing I said I said you can't win when it comes to when Lee trolls because he that's he loves it. He lives for it I was like he's gonna have ai videos of of of fucking Milos crying you know it's you it's just you gotta be able it's and and the thing is Milos is one of the greatest bodybuilding trainers in the world he's up there with uh asito he's up there with Farrah he's one of the best guys in the world and he was a he was a top 10 Olympian when he competed you so you're one of the best bodybuilders in the world it is beneath you to fucking answer people that critique your athlete it's beneath you like and let me say right now I like Hardy and even when I said the Bruce shouldn't have won and oh my god I got all that abuse from Iranian people this so we're doing this to your mother your daughter we're gonna kill you I actually got a couple of nice messages from Hardy saying I still love you Lee sent me photos of his family so look I love Hardy so even if Hardy doesn't win or do whatever I'll still talk nice about Hardy Miller so you won't have to yell at me okay yeah and and that's another thing like and and that just proves what I said right Hardy leaves um I forgot the guy was training him who is it he day no sorry I get I get Hide Hani and Hani and uh so honey him and separate and the first guy he goes to is Milos this is a guy who won Mr. Olympia wins the auto class and every chance of winning Mr Olympia again and the first guy reaches out to is Milos clearly that says you're one of the best in the world you're you it is beneath you to respond to people that comment literally could you imagine if like who was the guy that was winning all those fucking um uh who was the train who was the football coach that was winning all the uh the super bowls with uh Tom Brady Belichick Belichick I think Belichick gave a shit what people thought of no he just wanted to win the fucking Super Bowl how much shit did they put on him and his young girlfriend and girlfriend and then uh all that was deflated and yeah it's just like it's like dude you gotta get tough you gotta get tougher skin man you can just sit back with all the rings and go right and milos could do the same thing with all the guys that he's trained he all right sampson's wife definitely trains him and does a good job but milos was the one that helped him put all that size on yeah clearly right I mean he took he took sampson to the next level so that's it man you don't try and I think I it's getting Hardy to that next level now because Hardy looks like he's got some good sizing and distinct through now and whoever you know let's talk about Hardy's retiring maybe Hardy said one more and let's just go all out Milos and let's see what we can do and there must be a little thing in there too where you know Milos would love to see Hardy beat Samson so you know oh well even if he doesn't win as long as you know Hardy's naked sampson third whatever as long as he's ahead of Samson Milos is coming for it yeah right exactly well Eric what do you make of all this thing with Milos and uh that that debate and it was just ridiculous.

SPEAKER_05 52:20

What what do you think I didn't hear about it really yeah uh uh I forgot what what what YouTube channel was it on iFBB IFB AMA IFB AMA Chris Tuttle was the it was Chris Tuttle yeah moderator and what happened was uh you know basically you know long story short everybody thought not everybody but 90 of the people thought James should have won in China they gave it to uh be roos which it's not like be roos looked like complete shit he was off by maybe five ten percent everybody thought and James was on James was I saw I saw the pictures I was like I thought James should have won yeah everybody did yeah very few people did like Chris Masaro thought um um cancelaries milos will attack you yeah yeah so so basically leak came out and said James got robbed he should have won that and milos got his fucking fucking panties in a bunch and the starter just then the ama ifb ama private chat that we have there and even then Antoine even did um Antoine Valiette did that video and he pretty much gave every post to James and Milos was going off as fuck why you know your guy won I know people are gonna talk that's it I mean it's like you're you that's your attitude should be ah keep talking my guy won my guy's going to the Olympia what are you doing you know hopefully that's the thing too hopefully you can get to the visa thing I said I that's another thing I said I said you got bigger problems to worry about you got to see if you can get that visa form to get to the Olympia forget about what Lee Priest said you better be working on that now to get right yeah you got eight weeks you better fucking work on it now yeah exactly he thought that Baruz was at 100% he said he was very comparable to the win in Portugal that he won't which means nothing which means nothing doesn't it's like that win means that's what I said I was like okay you're comparing him to Portugal but that doesn't mean James wasn't better.

SPEAKER_02 54:17

So if James looked like that in Portugal James probably still would have been in better shape you know last year James was off this year James is the best James we've ever seen it's a big fucking difference man yeah did you see what Bob Chicarello said about his beard yeah and he did trim it though he did I even said that I said I even said to James in the in the messages we're talking back and forth I said I know you love the bee James and the Viking and that sort of stuff I said but just trim it a bit trim it a bit just make it neat because it does it does make a difference. It's a distraction it's a distraction those poses I think um who did it today I saw I think on Rx Muster they might have done a picture someone did where they took it off no it might have been on OG with arm on and that and because I said his beards here when they took it away you saw more traps and more upper chest when his head's like that. And actually the illusion is he looks so much better because you can see more even though it's a little bit it just looks so much I didn't even think of that.

SPEAKER_05 55:15

You're 100% right I'm looking at it as a distraction but yeah when he trimmed it you saw the upper chest and those traps even better. But they did they actually get an AI picture and removed the whole thing and you think oh shit he looks like up here he looks five pounds thicker all of a sudden because you can see the upper chest the traps coming right from here not just from here yeah he's got he's got crazy traps too insane fucking traps when he hits that most muscular it's pretty like what the he's got a thick upper chest and that too so it's like why hide it just or you gotta do it do it with your head up yeah and he and he can hang with the size with Nick and Joe he clearly hung with that size you know I mean his side shots is real I mean he James come in James come into Atlanta with a goatee yeah every time he gets smaller and smaller and smaller he does have a mustache yeah and by the time he gets to Texas he's gonna look by the time he gets to the Olympia he's gonna look like uh who's that guy with the little head in uh in beetle juice oh yeah that one yeah yeah but um uh yeah well it's gonna be it's getting interesting because we got you know two more shows and you know whoever doesn't win this one is gonna do taxes.

SPEAKER_02 56:24

I know like James loves the beer and like I said when you saw the comparison without it he looked so much better so I'll be like I wouldn't give the judges any leeway especially with Regan coming to the shows I'd be like you know what I'm gonna make it tight on my chin or remove the whole thing because something that small could be that deciding factor yeah yeah absolutely especially when you got competition like that knocking on the door right near you where it could go either way I wouldn't leave anything to chance why is Regan so popular why does he have a million five or a million eight subs uh followers on Instagram I think he's just really good at social media.

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It's gotta be right I don't get it I used to watch his videos back in 2015.

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Oh really before he turned pro he would post like every week oh okay maybe that's it I don't know because you know I see I see your account here on YouTube going up again John you're doing good no my YouTube account's going up but not it's increasing my uh Instagram is increasing I'm doing a lot of uh funny stuff did you see the did you see the uh the thing I did about Larry Wheels I haven't seen it yeah you shared it you shared it oh did I yeah oh yeah about oh yeah of the yeah where that guy's going like that yeah did you see that Larry yeah did you see when Larry decides to do some new thing and that guy's like you know so you know Larry Wheels like every week he does something new like he like the guy literally gets paid to figure out what he wants to do with his life I mean so we started off in powerlifting we went to arm wrestling and then we went to classic physique and bodybuilding and then the strong man and then he did the slap contest and then he did sumo wrestling I mean it just goes down the fucking list man so now this remember they used to have those bracelets what would Jesus do in that yeah we can do instead of what would we have what will Larry do what will Larry do bracelets so so now he's doing MMA right and he has a fight coming up so I made this post I'll pull it up for you and then then we'll we'll go but I it's he can he can tear a muscle get injured doing MMA just as easy as we're like are you taking any of this serious or or not you know uh let's see MMA I mean you're going against guys that have been doing it since wrestling since they were five years old yeah well I don't know how good the guy is that uh is doing it I have no clue but apparently he's got a fight coming up you know um Steve Hawkins is dead so it's not him yeah right I so I don't know who the guy is but this is what I put up okay it's pretty true though oh okay yeah you think the guy he's fighting though would have to be at the same level he couldn't be super experienced otherwise it'd just be walkover wouldn't it did Eric did you see the one I did about Nick Walker uh all right this one about Nick Walker see what you got see what you got all right that's pretty good pretty good all right I used to like him as a comedian then he went all woke for a little bit didn't he he did he did I don't know what the deal is I mean his his wife did you did you see when his wife gave Trump the finger at the at the UFC it's like you cannot like the guy but don't don't embarrass your husband like that man like that really affected Trump ooh yeah like oh that's just he ruined his day yeah but like you're gonna attack you like me lose yeah right don't don't don't embarrass your husband like you you don't do that i mean you know what what if what if you you can make a joke about it go my wife give trump the fucking thing and now I've got drones flying over my fucking house like yeah you can do a whole bit on it yeah right you can do a whole comedy bit on it secret service turned up at the door yeah yeah right uh all right all right gentlemen I'm gonna let you go uh thank you very much oh we are we plugged Nutrafit and we even oh and then we we did plug vintage muscle on it talked about vintage muscle and the doses to take and then you yeah yeah I'm very I'll be honest with you I'm really liking the Nutrafit products too I've been taking the whey protein I've been using the pre-work I'm really liking the for their products and people go that's because you get they sponsored no it's not because of that either John was using it before they even sponsored him I did actually I did use crowbar before I ordered because what happened was we had Austin who owns Nutrafit on the show and we were talking about we were talking about Nutrafit and then I ordered uh Kroba and I was like this was like a this was probably one of the best pre-workouts I've ever I'm not gonna lie this and Jason Owens has a pre-workout called Rogue X those two are the best this tastes a little better but it it was very comparable as far as the uh the type of energy that I like and there's also no crash you know you know when you're having way too much caffeine you know if you offer the vintage muscle don't worry about taste because the pro hormones you know they work when they taste like that. Yeah yeah no that's you don't some are bad some are like holy hell well I got what a guy at work wants to use them yeah because he doesn't want to go to uh a clinic and that'd be a good per people like that are good to actually because you know some people in the industry like ah you might as well use the real thing these aren't gonna work a guy like that is good of course they're using nothing you give it to them they're the best like guinea pigs to say fuck I'm feeling this this is done this done that whereas some bodybuilders like I'm not feeling it like test I'm not feeling it like fucking steroids yeah it's it's ridiculous and then somebody messaged me and asked me about vintage muscle and he goes do I have to go on PCT I went no it's they're not anabolic steroids you don't have to go on PCT because I asked him I actually said to him are you on are you using any anabolics and he said no I said well then it's perfect for you you get a hundred percent you know perfect for you I feel like that's where everyone starts too yeah right right right right right right yeah exactly and they have a whole bunch they have um well like ten different types you know I only I have five of them I only use two so far I gotta use the other three and see how they work all right fellas might turn into a monster he was selling these pro hormones what happened bro he was selling these pro hormones and he was like yeah take three capsules a day yeah if you're getting too big then go down to two a day only two drops so you don't turn into the incredible hog three drops before you go remember what we say fuck Paris Hyundai New Jersey Paramount I can take that warranty and shove it up their ass yeah exactly all right fellas I will see you guys soon thank you very much take care