Interview - Josephine McAdam - Actor / Eva (LA By Night) / Juliette (Haunted City)

Today I chat with Actor, Roleplayer and fan of horror/supernatural roleplay games - Josephine McAdam.

We discuss her Films, her Roles as Eva (LA By Night) and Juliette (Haunted City), being a Player and Keeper and, much more.

You can find Josephine and all of her associated content via the links below.

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Adam 'Cosy' Powell

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Snyder’s Return: 0:27

Hello and welcome to Snyder’s return a tabletop roleplay podcast. My guest today has honed her mind and body for action. She has experienced the battle for beyond explored the cities by night and left a legacy that will last for Eva. She is more than a one hit wonder taking multiple shots acting on both sides of the supernatural divide, predator and Hunter. She can be found keeping sanity in check, or making scores with a crew between her periods of stagecraft stylish outfits and exquisite cuisine. It is an absolute pleasure to welcome actress streamer and TTRPG roleplay royalty, Josephine McAdam, Josephine. Welcome to the show.

Josephine McAdam: 1:07

My goodness, I was not expecting what an elaborate and beautiful introduction. Thank you.

Snyder’s Return: 1:15

What do you This is all your work. I've just responded in my own particular way. So thank you for doing so much for me to draw on.

Josephine McAdam: 1:26

It was my pleasure. Thank you. Thank you for having me as

Snyder’s Return: 1:29

well. Thank you. Thank you so much for agreeing to join me. But before I get into some of the things that were alluded to there in the introduction, how did you get into tabletop role playing games, please?

Josephine McAdam: 1:40

Well, it's been a long time actually started when I was, I was probably like six years old. My father actually deemed my brother and I in Dungeons and Dragons growing up. So I think I've had one of the best experiences to be introduced into tabletop. And I was just very lucky, you know, I still remember my, my first character, my first death was completely my brother's fault. And it just, you know, I just loved it. As soon as we played it, you get to explore and, you know, delve into dungeons and try these different puzzles. And, and when your DM is your father, it's like, you know, he really wants you to enjoy yourself and get the most out of it and be able to learn and it's, I think it's the most nourishing experience I could have ever had with a GM.

Snyder’s Return: 2:38

That sounds amazing. And so from this early start in the hobby far earlier than than many I would suggest. Where did that did that? Did you sort of consistently play through your youth and and up to where you are now? Or were their breaks? What was that sort of? Experience and, and progress? Like?

Josephine McAdam: 3:00

There are definitely breaks? Yes, mainly, not by my choice, but because I couldn't find any friends to play with me. You know, it recently, it's gotten so popular, which is so wonderful to see. But as I was growing up, I think, you know, my brother and I's campaign, I don't know, I think we stopped playing after, after I had my first character death really shook me. And then I wanted to play with other friends, but just no one knew what Dungeons and Dragons was. And I'm not sure that my dad had time to GM. So then it was like trying to find, you know, a group willing to do this and it took a long time where I didn't play for a while until, when was it? My 16th birthday. Or perhaps 1617 One of those were my birthday wish my request of all my friends was that they would come sit down and we're going to play a game of Dungeons and Dragons. That's amazing. And we did and they all loved it. And that was that was really wonderful. And then you know, it just had little like campaigns with friends on and off since then. Really?

Snyder’s Return: 4:15

So even a home game at the moment.

Josephine McAdam: 4:17

Yes, yes. Actually I am at the moment we have a home game that is you know, every Monday night we play over zoom even though we're all in the same city that's just you know, after work laziness for you. Yes, let's convenience will say and that's so wonderful. It's so different than the shows I do because it's just you know, we're very relaxed. It's we're snacking were in lounge where you know, we get distracted by some tangent topic and but it's it's nice, it's comfortable and we get to explore. My, my DM is Chris Locky and he has helped right You know, some of the books that he is pulling from for a campaign. So it's it's really cool to have that level of knowledge coming from your dungeon master, you know?

Snyder’s Return: 5:11

Yeah, I was about to ask is it? Is it homebrew or anything like that? And I guess, as you say, Chris lucky it's a well informed homebrew I guess.

Josephine McAdam: 5:20

Yes. Yeah, it is it you know, it shifts and changes we have been playing in in wild mount and it just sort of shifts and follows wherever he wants to take it from here, you know,

Snyder’s Return: 5:30

so I'm dying to ask about your character now, because home games are much different to what we may see on on Twitch. Yeah, we'll get to that in a bit. So your character, please, I'm just, yeah,

Josephine McAdam: 5:45

I am playing. You know, we made this character right after we had watched the first season of the Mandalorian. And I just, I loved it so much as like I want to make a character that was like heavily inspired by him. So I'm, I have a fighter, a pallid elf fighter, in fact, who comes from a very small circle of of bounty hunters, called the honed and they've recently been attacked. And so like, I'm, I'm out adventuring in the world, because I want to find who attacked our organisation or our town and took basically they kidnapped a bunch of people. And so I'm on a search to find them and reunite them because I'm like, one of a handful of them left. And so very brooding you know, not great with words, but really turned into the tank of the group. I've actually ended up multiclassing into barbarian as well. So

Snyder’s Return: 6:47

he's nice. No, I love the way that sounds. Just proves you can pull your inspirations from anywhere I

Josephine McAdam: 6:53

suppose. Right, exactly.

Snyder’s Return: 6:56

And so when did you know having this birthday? Treat way back in your 60s or 70s? Where did you go? From there? Was it? Did you sort of sporadically play and then get wedded work? Because you're an actress would work and tabletop sort of linked together? Did one sort of take precedence over the other for a while? And are you sort of did you manage to balance that quite? Well?

Josephine McAdam: 7:23

Um, yeah, you know, I, they've always gone hand in hand, because I've always loved to play pretend, right. And both of them allow for that. And I've pursued, actually, I've been in theatre since I was very young as well, you know, I was always in every theatre programme and all my schools and went to university for that as well. And gaming alongside it was just sort of another way to sort of scratch that itch of like, delving into different characters. And, and the framework that goes with that. I didn't start having tabletop becomes something I was working in until I came out to Los Angeles, really, so that that came quite a bit later. And for me, I don't know, they're just not very different, you know, I still get to I put in the same amount of work as if I were getting a roll, sometimes more work, because you know, you don't have a script or anything you you're going off of have very little when you're jumping into tabletop games. So there's a lot more of almost coming in as a writer as well, and, and trying to tell a story. They don't know, they just go hand in hand. For me. There's not one that overtakes the other, they just sort of support each other I find.

Snyder’s Return: 8:44

Yeah. So mentioned the you've sort of done theatre and acting and you've done some award nominated to you in the tower. That was Award nominated. And hard reset is another project and you're working on a short film or coming up to a short film, I believe.

Josephine McAdam: 9:06

Yes, yes. So I have written, I wrote a short film this past summer with my friend Ross Bryant, who was also in the tabletop community, and is a very talented improviser and writer. And so he helped me with my first writing project, basically. And so we've written this short film, and it is in fact about some tabletop players. So it kind of it merges all of our interests into a medium that, you know, first got us going creatively and that we're very passionate about which is Film, film and TV and being able to collaborate on a set was such a large group of people really is what I love. And so it was nice to be able I was going to, I just wanted to pull from what I knew. So tabletop is something and you As I know very well, and it's, it's a comedy horror, and you'll see a lot of familiar faces from the tabletop community that are going to be in it. And I'm very excited. We're filming in early January. We've got Jonah Ray is directing it. And we've got Becca Scott, and if fina waterway and and Ross and a few others that you will find out. But yeah, it's it's silly, it's fun. And it's just a little short that we just want to get together and create put out there. So hopefully we'll see it in the, you know, in a few months time.

Snyder’s Return: 10:38

Now, it sounds exciting. And you've mentioned there some fantastic people from the community. Becker, Scott, at times recording, congratulations on your progression. Yes. You have had the the opportunity and the privilege to play with some of the incredible names within our community within the tabletop role playing community, when did you really get your start on the sort of the streamed games? And how is that progression gone from sort of first appearance now through to one that we'll touch on the many shows that you are currently in and have started in? But what was it like getting your start and your progression from sort of stepping on to? I nearly said the stage they're stepping in tabletop role and moving on from there.

Josephine McAdam: 11:28

Yeah, you know, it just is a very natural progression for me, but there wasn't much forcing, I suppose. You know, like it was already something that I had been, as you've heard, you know, doing for so long I've been playing in tabletop. So it's very easy. Jump for me to make i Let me see how far back do I go? Yeah, everything was just a very, very easy transition. So we moved to LA from Austin, Texas. And there, we met, and we're very good friends with Ryan day, who is like family to us. And Ryan is Felicia days, brother. And when we moved out to LA, you know, he had introduced us to Felicia and I learned about Geek and Sundry. And it just sort of, you know, they were looking for hosts as well. And I was like, Well, I love gaming. And you know, and it just sort of fell into place where I could come on and be one of their hosts for some of their shows. As it turns out, I'm not the biggest fan of being a host. And, and that that revealed itself eventually, you know, I like playing characters I like I like not having to be myself per se. You know, like, I just like delving into and making believe. And so hosting was not my cup of tea, although I got to meet such wonderful people along the way. So it was still so so worth it. But at a certain point I stopped hosting, but I always told them, you know, what, if there is any tabletop opportunities, I'm there in a heartbeat, because I just I love it so much. And that is when they started calling me back for more tabletop stuff, specifically, and I don't know what the I can't think of what the first thing was. I can't even Yeah, I don't know what my first stream game was, you think I would have made a note at some point. But it's been so long now.

Snyder’s Return: 13:27

Sometimes milestones just partially by before they realise their milestones. But moving on. Moving on from from that so you you sort of hosting was not your forte as you bid sort of come back to these player roles. And you have since just reading through sort of Twitter and Instagram and YouTube, you're gonna link to things and we'll get to link shortly you have played such a variety of systems was so many great individuals. What's it been like, sort of delving into new characters with new systems every so often with? Great, I wouldn't say supporting but everybody supports each other. But fellow roleplayers Well,

Josephine McAdam: 14:10

you know, it's such a gift to be in games with people that are just as passionate as you are right there. They're so ready to go with whatever you throw their way and we'll throw right back to you so much, you know, like story to, to hold on to and character moments to work off of. I've just been very fortunate with the people that I've gotten to work with and it's ever growing. I'm constantly getting to meet new people in this field, and there's so many I still have yet to play with as well. I feel I feel very lucky. I'm really glad that I've gotten to delve into different systems as well. I find it doesn't make much difference for me as far as character choices or character designs that I go with I mean, sometimes it it influences the, the mood and the atmosphere of the character, right? Whether it's going to be a very silly comedic game or if I know someone's gonna die very quickly, and we're going to just be making multiple characters, you know that it kind of changes the mood. Versus if I know it's a character, that system that will not have characters be so disposable. If I know it's going to be a longer term, then I'll, I'll create a more lived character within with more to discover along the way. But you know, I am happy to play whatever system I'm a big board gamer in general. So for me, it's just like, Oh, it's just a new board game, but I'm still going to play it no matter what, you know, like, I'm just as interested as system isn't usually what stops me from wanting to play a tabletop game. I'm happy to try new ones all the time.

Snyder’s Return: 15:56

Yeah, no. And I can I can see that as as you've tried so many. But there does seem to be a draw. And you can correct me if I'm wrong to the supernatural. And one of your most sort of well known Saint lived characters, it's actually undead or unliving. So what was it like becoming part of the alo by night, coterie is the right word, but also the wrong word in that respect.

Josephine McAdam: 16:33

Incredible life changing. I mean, it's been it's been really lovely. I've met so many dear friends through it. I've gotten to explore, you know, I think so many of the games I had done really leaned into comedy and silliness, which I also adore. But I think I have more strength in drama when it comes to these kinds of like darker stories in TTRPG. And there's just so much to explore there. And I don't know, I think I love dark stories because I think they make the really light and bright moments of light of life like shine so much more, you know, like when you have that glimmer of hope when you have something good happen. It just it just impacts so much harder when there's all this darkness all around you really hold on to and I just think it makes it really special. And so I I tend to really love stories that are in these dark worlds and La by night, definitely. Let me explore that. And it was interesting because I came in as a guest. So at first it was sort of fulfilling needs for the main cast and the story that they're telling, right. And I love that because honestly I do come at this from an acting perspective first so it's like if I have any sort of script of you know, not that there's a script but like if I have any sort of guidelines if I'm coming in just as an NPC I actually really love doing that. Not that there's much opportunity in general for for that but I love that I really enjoyed that I love being able to help facilitate a story or moments for other other players and characters to get to be a part of and it just kept evolving it was just ever changing really,

Snyder’s Return: 18:24

ya know and it's certainly had an impact on the wider family I like to try to try and get these terms Correct. Across saw the word of darkness in the Vampire the Masquerade group and community and yeah, such it was fantastic to have watched you portray their character and and you've gone from the dark city that is La by night to dusk vol very different but still dark in its in its own sort of way. What What's it been like? Sort of playing in the blades of the dark world that is dodgeball on the glass cannon network?

Josephine McAdam: 19:10

Yeah, it's so interesting. Also very dark. Honestly, I keep making these tragic, tragic characters. If there's two sort of, you know, themes that I love playing into it, you know, it's within tragedy and romance. I don't know why I just love it. I just have so much fun. It's a genre that I enjoy reading as well. And so it's, I like to you know, if I'm going to be improvising I like to create content that I would be eager as an audience to watch as well. It makes it easier for me to make choices and know it would be fun to see. But dusk vol blades in the dark has been so lovely. So free it is like so, open the improvs ation is incredible because the players actually do get to form the story that's happening. It is very it is the most collaborative system I've gotten to work in, in tabletop so far. You know, we get to suggest what scores we want to go to, we get to suggest the characters that we know it's it's so collaborative, it's really incredible. And we even you even see what got you XP at the end of a session, you know, like, it's, it's really interesting, and it's been so fun in such a supportive environment. My cast members like working with Ross, Brian aboubaker, Celine and Jared Logan is just the most supportive environment that's we're always going to help each other and to know that, you know, every session we sit down is just, it's just a breath of fresh air. And so there's the weight. It's like a weight that's off your chest as far as you know, getting something wrong. But on the other hand, we're also crazy or just sadistic, I'm not sure we get ourselves into the weirdest situations and we really explore these strange topics that dusk vol that this world allows us to with the undead and with ghosts around and, and being able to interact with them. And this like here archy in the city, and we've really been exploring that. And it has led us to the strangest places, but it's, it's great. I never have any idea what's going to happen.

Snyder’s Return: 21:35

Sounds amazing. Um, before I move on, follow a similar thread. Would you mind Josephine just letting us know? Or could you lead us to these dark places for letting us know where we can find your good self on social media? And on the web, please? Oh, yes.

Josephine McAdam: 21:52

Well, you can find me on social media. Let's see. So Instagram and Twitter, where I'm the most active I would say is at JC V, I m not the easiest to remember, but they're my initials and they're never taken as usernames. And then you can you know, check out my IMDb for some of the film work that I've done. At the top of my twitter I actually have a pinned post where you can see tabletop projects that I'm a part of as well as film projects and where you can find them and there's also a link I believe in there that I've I've got a playlist of all my different tabletop shows that I've been a part of that are on YouTube so you do Yeah, you do. Okay, there we go.

Snyder’s Return: 22:38

I can confirm it works and I will make sure that all the links mentioned that are down in the description below this podcast one of the threads I sort of just carry on with the the blades in the dark gospel is how is Juliet getting on?

Josephine McAdam: 22:56

A character Oh, man. Juliet is I guess I'll describe her a bit for listeners that may not know you know, she is well we're all scoundrels in blades in the dark you're all playing scoundrels trying to get up in the ranks of of criminals in the city. And she she is a widow she lost her partner in what is a quote, accident and quote that happened in the sort of scientific guild that she was a part of in the past and since then, we have she has you know, cried through the streets of dusk vol morning her we have resurrected not resurrected we've summoned the ghost of her dead lover. Spoilers if you're going to be continuing in want to check it out. And and she's inhabited the body of one of her crew mates and so her dead lovers there but she's not quite the same. And so you can only imagine there's a lot going through Juliet's mind and she goes through the wringer. And she's, you know, I think she's having a rough go at it. But there's this you'll just have to see if she ends up doing anything about it. I think. And I think that's the hardest though, one of the hardest struggles is if you have you, sometimes getting what you wish for, you know, doesn't exactly end up the way you want it. And especially when that wish has led to you seeing basically sort of destroying your memory and how you saw your loved one it's it's a very, very messed up situation to be in and we're just gonna have to see how she, she deals in time.

Snyder’s Return: 24:46

Yeah, for sure. So that is on the glass kind of network available on YouTube and various social media links that you can sort of follow and support them and buy in, turn yourself on And that sounds like it would test anybody's sanity. But you don't just do it in one system. You play the calyx calyx. Yes. Yes. Thank you the calyx game part the good. Good time society. Yes.

Josephine McAdam: 25:19

Yeah. On Becca Scott's channel the good times society? Yes.

Snyder’s Return: 25:24

So what's it like playing in that kind of more Eldritch Horror rather than supernatural horror if if I'm allowed to?

Josephine McAdam: 25:37

Yeah, sure. What's lovely about the calyx is, it is, again, very supportive. Everyone that Becca gets on board for those games are very just wonderful human beings. And it's different because also, you know, we know that there's going to be an end to calyx, it's all sort of almost like anthology esque series, you know, it's just little mini series, where we'll do a small arc, you know, maybe two to three episodes, or one shots of scenarios and Call of Cthulhu. And it's really fun, because I think I play a little more fast and loose when I know it's going to be a mini series. And so we first of all, I love this kind of like Eldritch Horror, my favourite board games is Arkham, horror and Mansions of Madness. So getting to play Call of Cthulhu just sort of scratches that itch. I love the sort of collaborative investigator angle to it. It's like we're all we're trying to solve a problem. And so that encourages you to look behind that door that looks really spooky, or to open the tome that, you know, is eerie, and has this foreboding, like Doom or coming from it. It really encourages you to, to look into the darkness. And because we are there to get answers, and I really love that, I don't know, I just love this genre, as well. It's really fun. It's really fun. And you know, we'll likely go mad by the end of all of it.

Snyder’s Return: 27:10

Well, how did you find because I can, you know, I hear your love for the systems and the love for the, the worlds in which they inhabit, but what was it like going from player and trying to keep your sanity there to begin to being in the role of a keeper, and trying to keep your sanity there?

Josephine McAdam: 27:29

Yeah, it's so interesting, I think a much better player than I am a keeper, but it's something I'd like to, I'd love to explore it more. I'm just, I'm a perpetual like, planner, I need to have a plan. And so when confronted with bring these investigators on a scenario, it's like the amount of work that I put into characters and planning for I guess I get I get so caught up with character work, that's why I like playing right, you get to just focus on one character that when I was a keeper for what was the name, if I could just remember the name of the scenario but there's I had like all of these note cards of all these different characters that I could just pull from at random but I had like prepped them all ahead of time and it was just so much work and I even like a write down like just a single sentence of of dialogue not necessarily that will be said but just so that I understand like their their voice and their tone of each character but it's like I probably could have improvised all that but I just needed to have a plan I don't know why I just it's it's something that's still very new to me being a GM I'd love to explore more so I can get more confident in it and not have to plan everything but I get so worried that I'm just not going to have something or that all forget forget a detail along the way. That's really my biggest fear is just forgetting something major.

Snyder’s Return: 29:02

Well, going from sort of concentration on both your your real world work and you're delving into characters and just keeping your your mental health in check. Do you get much downtime away from all these activities or does sort of tabletop make up part of your sort of downtime in that respect?

Josephine McAdam: 29:29

You know, my home game definitely is helpful in that you know, it's very like I said it's very relaxed, very comfortable. You know, I don't have to sort of put on makeup put on you know, presentable outfit I can be in my lounge wear whatever. That's really nice. I do have a pretty insane schedule. It's it's pretty nonstop. I have to say it is hard to balance at all between st You know, because I stream on my own channel as well. So I'll stream video games. And then if I get voiceover auditions, and they kind of, you know, interrupt, it's usually like, oh, I need to get this done tonight. And I go to martial arts, and then I'm also writing a feature film. And then we're in pre production for the short film I'd mentioned. I'm also working on a fight scene with my martial arts instructors to film that in the New Year as well. So it's, it's a bit of a constant just jumping from one to the next and back and forth. And it's just kind of the pace that it's at right now. But, you know, I do get, I just have to watch that I don't get burnt out on things. I do want tabletop to always be something that I have fun and enjoy. And I think as I've gotten busier, that is something that I've become more strict about, you know, sort of backing away from a lot of ongoing projects and more signing on for just, you know, one shots or things that I know, will pre record, just because they can work better with my schedule. And so that I know, I won't, I don't ever want to. It's like acting as my career. So I know that there are points where I'll get stressed out, right, there's a lot of work that goes into it. And it's a sort of long road. But a tabletop, I don't ever want to feel burnt out on tabletop gaming. And so I've been making sure that I can shuffle things around and only say yes to certain things. So that it's always a fun, you know, experience for me, it's always something that I look forward to. And this year, it really has been that I've been really happy with keeping that in mind. And so it's it's a lovely escape for me. Yeah.

Snyder’s Return: 31:45

And with sort of available play time as it were, in your schedules. Are there any systems game systems that you haven't had the chance to play yet that you've seen and gone? Ah, maybe if someone was to throw one shot, maybe it'd be at a home, a home game one shot of this system? I'd really like to try that.

Josephine McAdam: 32:06

Oh my gosh, yes. Right now I'm, I'm scrolling through my photos, because when I was I took a photo of a, an RPG that I saw while I was at GenCon in August, and it just looked so fun. And it's so funny because it used the same sort of D six di system is blades in the dark. And so I thought, Oh, that'd be easy for me to pick up as well. I kind of know the system. Let me just find the name of it is the wild C. And I've never heard anyone you know, like I had never heard of it before I came across it at this booth. It just looks so beautiful. There's like cactus people there's all sorts of like very like nature driven characters. And really honestly like, art gets me it pulls me in to check something out. But it's there was like this cactus character that was holding like a cup of tea or something. And that really got me was like, speaking to my heart. Let me let me find the way that they described it was wild see, let me see if they've got information on the because I just feel like you've got to they've gotta it's like too many mistake the wild sea for an endless sea of branches and leaves but they're wrong. It's an endless sea of forest of all the horrors and wonders of nature unbridled here in the sporulate and reach of my conica fungus rules the waves. And so you've got these like ships that that have like saws and blades at the bottom of them because they like ride these forests like seas of forest. It's just really interesting and different. And I just I really want to play in it at some point.

Snyder’s Return: 33:55

Yeah, no, that's that's it's piqued my interest for sure. I'll see if I can find any information on that once once this interviews is over. So that's another dark setting. I'd like to point out you've just mentioned there so there's,

Josephine McAdam: 34:12

I mean, I guess it was also cute.

Snyder’s Return: 34:15

Cute and dark, which is probably the worst kind of dark guys and nice looking playful characters and then just just it just does Yeah. It's great. So what comes next for you? We've mentioned the short film and some reductions on certain commitments, so allowing you to do a few more different things, but what else is in the pipeline for you?

Josephine McAdam: 34:45

Oh, goodness, you know, I think I'm, I'm pretty overloaded right now. But once once the short film is is shot and done, then I'll just be I'll be writing in the feature and then you know the action scene I'm worried the fight scene I'm working on will also be hopefully, you know, in a few weeks after that, I'm hoping to then plan a sort of either mini series or a two shot or something of a game with my husband, again, who we've worked, we did eclipse in the past using the mothership system, and we just love mothership so much. And we've been wanting to find the time to do another sort of like, like I said, to shot maybe just much smaller scale to just do another project together again, and fundraise for something. So once I'm done with these few projects I'm working on we're gonna shift and look to that and you know, sort of really make it full because he's, he's a concept artists, and so he'll do you know, character art, and really, like, pour in a lot of work into it and see if we can raise some money for a good cause and have some fun with some friends for for a couple episodes. Yeah, yeah,

Snyder’s Return: 35:58

it's so sort of drawing in other people and bringing in friends. And and this is a tenuous link, but we're going we're going somewhere with sort of bringing more people into the TTRPG. community, how is the inclusivity? And the respect and all those sorts of diverse diversity and inclusivity of the TTRPG? Community? Where do you see it sit at the moment? And where do you think we need to go to, to further be inclusive?

Josephine McAdam: 36:32

You know, there's, so it's different. I have different opinions on it, when we speak about it, like in show business versus it as a hobby and for everyone to partake. And I think there's work to be done in both, I think we should be bringing, putting breaking down as many barriers as possible to include people in one of the things that I think would be great for, for people playing at home or anything is to really break down the need to get the rules, right. I you know, and like having so much of so much. putting so much weight on on people that do like, oh my gosh, they know all the rules, like they're an expert, like, that's okay, but you don't need that to play these games. And I think that it was, it's such a daunting aspect of jumping into any sort of game is like this giant, you know, book or a rule book or anything. And I think, sort of approaching it and breaking down that it's okay to get things wrong, there is no right way to play an RPG because one of the best things about tabletop RPG is it's it's, you know how malleable it is, and how adaptive it can be to whatever someone wants at their table. I feel like it's just a framework, and then you can just adapt it to whatever works best for you all. When it comes to inclusivity, in the sort of show business sides of things, there's always more work to be done. There's a lot I think of performative action that's happening, you know, on social media, or wherever, where you see a lot of people publicly speaking about these things, but the most work needs to be done behind the scenes, in the actual production side of things. You know, I do I do what I can to ask for certain things when on projects I sign on to, and I think a lot of us should be throwing our weight around more in that sense of just like, we need to be more inclusive, we need to be more diverse, we need x or y. And it's it's getting there. I feel like I get less and less pushback as time has gone. But there's still there's still a lot of work there to be done. And it just, I don't know, it's just better the more people we have in our communities. Yeah,

Snyder’s Return: 38:54

absolutely. 100%. And so moving that on to help, maybe players that are coming into the games and looking at all books as a player, yourself and having experienced, I think I've got a list of at least seven or eight different systems you've played. What tips would you give to a new player coming in? I realise it's a personal experience when it comes to being a player. But just just something to help, maybe newer players that may want to pick up a game or two, once they found a GM or or DM to run it with them.

Josephine McAdam: 39:32

Hmm, I guess, you know, remember that at the end of the day, you're supposed to have fun with this. So if you're running into something that's causing you stress, and that it's a collaboration with the people that you're there at the table with, it's not just for you, it's for all of you together to experience it together. So if something is happening if you're running into something that is A is stressing you out is no longer fun that I would, you know, always communicate that and sort of make sure that everyone at the table sort of understands what everyone else is looking for and hoping for because then you can all help fulfil that for each other. And it becomes this very nurturing, wonderful storytelling medium where everyone is helping each other explore these different ideas and worlds, and characters. And I just think communication, and remembering to have fun are just like, really, really integral things to hold on to as you jump into TTRPG.

Snyder’s Return: 40:39

Definitely. And so, Josephine we have discussed a lot through the course of this interview, you have achieved so much and are primed to, to achieve so much more. But is there anything that we haven't spoken about in this interview, you would like to bring up now?

Josephine McAdam: 40:58

You're so sweet. Um, I, you know, I don't know, if there's anything in particular, just support your, your tabletop players, your creatives that you see, you know, the world can be a wild place to go through and sometimes especially in like, economically difficult times, that we find ourselves in and out of, it's, it's hard to keep up with the time and the effort that it requires to sort of pour into creative creativity. But I think that it's what gives us that light during hard times, and what keeps us going. And so if you can support your creatives, you know, support them, however you can, they are probably feeling the same sorts of hardships we all do. And that, you know, these people in your TTRPG games on social media that you follow, are just as human as everyone else. And we all have our own hardships as well. So just try to treat everyone golden rule. He'd like to be treated as well. And to remember that online as well.

Snyder’s Return: 42:11

Absolutely. And so we can support you as a creator. Josephine, where can we go to find you? online and on social media, please? Yeah, well, so

Josephine McAdam: 42:22

on social media, it's just at JCVI em, you can come hang out in my Twitch streams, but we do a lot of video gaming in there. I also play some piano on Wednesdays. But that's twitch.tv/jcb I am it's very cosy. We drink a lot of tea. And, and sometimes Oh, actually, we're going to be doing a season two of New York by night watch party in the new year. So that'll be fun that we did season one this year. And it was it was really fun to get to watch alongside sort of in a European timezone and have that live experience and chat for everyone. And since I make an appearance in season two, I think it'll be really fun to do to be a part of a watch along and and, and chat and see how chat likes it. But yeah, I think that's really that's really mainly it social media twitch. Yeah,

Snyder’s Return: 43:21

I will be sending an email to your storyteller for a an interview, don't don't. For a moment, we will be having words. It has been a so much fun to be able to get you on the show and speak about it. And we haven't touched on your many and varied travels. But something that potentially we can discuss at a future date, because I'd love to get you back. Especially after your appearance in season two, if not before, of New York by night. And chat once again, about TT RPGs. Maybe even the wild see if you get a chance to play.

Josephine McAdam: 43:59

Oh my gosh, I hope so.

Snyder’s Return: 44:02

So yes, thank you so much, Josephine. As I said before, links are down the description below. You can follow Josephine on Twitch, Twitter, Instagram, everywhere. Should everyone just Yeah. So thank you so much. Sorry.

Josephine McAdam: 44:18

Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. It's been a pleasure. I

Snyder’s Return: 44:21

can't wait to speak together maybe run again for you in the future. Tempting range that outside of this interview, I think thank you so much. Bye. Thanks for listening. If you'd like to learn more about the show, then go to www dot Snyder’s return.squarespace.com. Alternatively, you can find us over on Twitter at return Schneider. We have a link tree link in the description of this episode. And if you want to support us, come and join us over on Patreon and we also have a Discord server. Please leave us a review because we'd love to learn how to improve the channel and provide the Add to content out for for those who are listening until we until we speak again thank you