Hard Men Podcast

Smashing Celebrity Idols: Taylor Swift, a Viral X Post, and Duties of Fatherhood

December 08, 2023 Eric Conn Season 1 Episode 144
Hard Men Podcast
Smashing Celebrity Idols: Taylor Swift, a Viral X Post, and Duties of Fatherhood
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A recent tweet of Eric's went viral on Twitter/X, which at the time of this post, had reached over 10 million impressions. What gives? Taylor Swift appeared on TIME magazine as "Person of the Year," scantily clad and with a cat draped around her neck. It may be the perfect picture of today's feminine ideal, but it's also heinously destructive for women, families, and society. We discuss in this week's episode.

In this episode we talk about a father's duty to protect his daughter's sexuality, and why this is an important inheritance given to future husbands. We also talk about Doug Wilson's book, Her Hand in Marriage, and why fathers should continue to lead their young daughters in the household.

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This episode of the Hard man Podcast is brought to you by Premier Body Armor and by Private Family Bake. Well, welcome to this episode of the Hard man Podcast. I am your host, eric Kahn, and very excited that you could join us for this episode. We are going to be talking about Time Magazine's Person of the Year not Woman of the Year, not Cat Lady of the Year. Now we're going to be talking about Time Magazine's Person of the Year T-Swizzle, taylor Swift. Why do you have to be so mean, eric? Well, we're going to talk about that in this episode.

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I had sort of a. I saw the Time Magazine cover. It's a little bit ridiculous Taylor Swift on the cover with a cat around her neck, outfitting and she's dressed him honestly, of course, not the cat. I mean Taylor Swift, okay, and she's Person of the Year. This is supposed to come out December 25th, 2023. That is the Time Magazine, and Taylor was on there and I said some things. We'll get into what I said on Twitter, but, yeah, it's so funny. I should have known. I should have known that this had the potential to bring out the Rainbow Brigade, which it did.

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But really, my point in sharing this is so many young women who look at a Taylor Swift and think Taylor Swift is a role model for what women should be and she's dressed him honestly and she's on stage and she's performing and everybody's like, oh my God, she's dating Travis Kelsey and everybody just thinks this is the greatest thing in the world. And Christians have lost their minds too. We'll get into that. The Gospel Coalition loves Taylor Swift. One thing you can learn about Taylor Swift's latest breakup and why it's about the Gospel and everybody is just obsessed with this lady, and so I thought you know this is something that needs to be addressed. There's nothing against Taylor personally, other than her like witch, demon, cult stuff. I guess that's personal and the cat is stupid around her neck. But, yeah, this is not the sort of woman that we want to be celebrating, and people in the church particularly need to wake up, and so, yeah, I addressed this. It was really crazy, because I was looking at this last night and it had like 1.2 million impressions. I thought, oh, my goodness, this is, this is crazy. And then I woke up this morning it was 4.1 million and then, as I'm recording, that was maybe an hour ago, hour and a half ago. As I'm recording 5 million views.

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People are really passionate about T-Swizzle and I do think it's funny because you know, I've listened to Taylor Swift, some of her earlier stuff. I mean it's like desperate teenage girl, I got dumped. But there's some of it is not absolutely Well. Okay, it's pretty terrible, but I'm trying to be, I'm trying to be nice here. This is the Hard Men podcast and we're about being nice and winsome. Okay, and so anyway, I Taylor, come on.

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What's going on here? People are very upset. It's the rainbow brigade. Chase Davis commented. This is the top comment. I see top comments in my mind as well. These are some fun comments from some perfectly healthy people. They are perfectly healthy.

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J Chase Day is going to be there with us. I don't know if that's an approved nickname, but it should be. Chase just turned 37. So shout out to him. He had a Zinn 37 birthday cake, which made me wonder if you had Zinn with 37 milligrams of nicotine that would be. That would really be something. But it's also going to be something.

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Chase is going to be there at the conference. We're going to be talking about things like how to kill a movement. Chase 29 died and what happened, what went wrong. Sometimes one of the best things you can do in sort of a debrief is to say what failed. What failed with TGC, what failed with the winsomeness movement. Many of you probably listened or saw some of the stuff that we've been talking about with Kevin DeYoung. You know Kevin DeYoung and all this. You know I'm concerned, the concern bros, I'm concerned about the Moscow mood, all of this. Well, chase is really good at unpacking that and what's going on with that movement.

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Well, in case you missed it, like I said, taylor Swift was named Time Magazine's Person of the Year. That's right. Today's heroine, according to the very left-leaning establishment, is this hyper-permiscus woman that I tweeted about. So what was the original tweet? In case you missed that one, let me read it. I said it's shameful and sad that a hyper-permiscus, childless woman, ie Taylor Swift, aging and alone with a cat, has become the heroine of a feminist age. I think there's many reasons that the regime has picked someone like Taylor Swift. You can read articles about this. She's been very much connected as of 2020. I think somewhere around there with George Soros money hyper-leftist since then. She's really one of the big Democrat you know. Bring people out to vote, you can again. You can look up the information on this.

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We won't go into all the details, but I even think the thing with Travis Kelsey is really interesting because you wonder if it isn't just a media marketing ploy. Right, get more eyeballs on the NFL. Guess what. Travis Kelsey is also Mr Pfizer. Aaron Rogers is right. Travis Kelsey is Mr Pfizer right, so he's in all the Pfizer shots and the whole thing. You watch the chief game. If you've seen any of these. It's like the whole time there is like TMZ Taylor Swift. The whole time they're like oh my gosh, taylor stood up. She's hugging Donna Kelsey. Travis is mom, oh my gosh, there's two. I mean it just makes the. I mean if you could stomach the NFL at all, like at this point, it's just like full gag reflex, right? So you gotta wonder what's going on here with the larger leftist, elitist media push. And it's also interesting when you look at.

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I mean obviously people freaked out, right, everybody's freaking out in the comment section. But man talk about the like gutter trash, just utter trash world of like rainbow brigade world. I mean, every comment in the post that is negative is like oh, I guess you have small genitalia, eric. Oh, good one. Are we back in high school in the locker room? Like what in the world? People on here? Oh, clearly an incel, clearly a pedophile. Yeah, and his projection, obviously these people who are like living in a New York apartment probably not New York, okay, let's be real, probably like the ghetto of LA, you know, and they've got the rainbow flag flying and they're like this guy is this Eric Codd Hardman podcast. He's an incel. Yeah, uh-huh. So again, the absolute worst of the worst.

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As Chase Davis said, some fun comments from some perfectly healthy people is not what the comments section is. I do love one of the comments. This is like the good comments. Was Andrew Torba on here and he said this is pretty much like the exact regime thing, like this is the ideal person in regime world is a single lady who is just obsessed with the state. Right, that's absolutely what's going on in this post People losing their absolute minds. But none of it is. You know. Also a lot of like don't judge. Christianity is about don't judge. Well, yes, that is one of the most abused passages in scripture. But here we have it right.

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Taylor Swift, like this, is being promoted as she's the queen bee of what you should be as a young lady. Absolutely not, and so this is why you know, this is why I called it out. It's amazing to, like you, see somebody like Taylor desperately clinging to your, her youth, she's alone, she's barren, she's a billionaire. Somebody said in the comments they're like yes, well, taylor is something, you will never be a billionaire. And I said oh, I'm sorry For a second. I thought you were going to say you used mattress, right.

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This is the crazy thing about Taylor Swift is, again, it's not necessarily personal, but it's like what does scripture teach? The sexually immoral will not inherit the kingdom. Clearly, if you listen to her music, you see the lifestyle. It's not good. This is not a picture of what young ladies should aspire to. You know, so many of the comments were like oh, is the little bitty man of weight, of the successful woman? No, I don't want young ladies to destroy their lives and have a cat around their neck and that's the only thing that they have.

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You can have all the billions in the world, because scripture is very clear the glory of women is in motherhood. Eve is the mother of all living. When you're 90, god willing, you make it that far. What's kind of like. You can have billions, it won't matter. You can be the cat lady billionaire who probably leaves her money to, like I don't know, the gaze in a library. But I repeat myself, right, you could be that person, lonely, you know, with too much plastic surgery. Or you could be surrounded by your generations who praise you in the gates as you go off into eternity to be with the Lord. Which will be more valuable? Well, clearly, the thing that scripture tells us and God tells us and nature tells us that we have to be aiming at is our generations. Even the Proverbs, grandchildren, grandchildren are crowned to the agent and fathers are their children's glory. So that's the generations, that is the glory. So you think about this.

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For a woman, you can write trashy. You know trashy songs that teenage girls would like, get their hearts all rung out over. You could do that. And then it gets worse. You know Taylor's. I don't know, I've heard very little of her music in the last 10 years, but from what I've heard, it gets like way trashier Again. This whole thing is like is this what you want to aim at? Absolutely not.

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Some people said she's dating Travis Kelsey. She's not alone. You saw the meme though, right, the meme with Travis Kelsey and Pfizer, and it said Mr Pfizer, it's like there's no way this doesn't end with Travis Kelsey getting his heart broken, whether it's Pfizer or Taylor Swift, this is great. This is great stuff. Some, some mnemologists out there, so hats off to you mnemologists. Probably Taylor, I would say she's probably working on her next Grammy song. Right, it's probably going to be a breakup song. Travis is going to be the inspiration. That's probably. She just needed new material. That's probably what this is about.

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Here's a quote somebody shared from CS Lewis. I think this is actually helpful. This is from 1943, but CS Lewis said this where men are forbidden to honor a king, they will honor millionaires, athletes or film stars instead, even famous prostitutes or gangsters, for spiritual nature, like bodily nature, will be served. Deny it food and it will gobble poison. End quote.

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I think CS Lewis was even picking up on something here. There is a right respect for honorable people. We should honor the king if he's a good king and a righteous king. We should honor authority figures and you know we should honor pastors. But look at our culture. Look at what our culture has become. This isn't like you look around and it's not that we will be judged. This is the judgment. We honor prostitutes and gangsters and trashy people and we put them up as these poisonous examples and we're telling our young ladies you ought to aspire to this. I think it's actually the death. Some of this is like signaling the death of trash world. Actually, I don't think this is like. Look at all the followers and comments in the comment section, if you have the stomach for it. It's just not like oh, wow, talk about some really thoughtful responses. No, it's not that at all.

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Right, taylor is the regime's ideal slave. She's an unmarried, childless, aging woman who worships the state. Andrew Torber was right. Not only is a woman like Taylor enslaved to her lust, something she imagines as liberty and freedom, and all the women who follow after her. Right, she's also robbed of her greatest glory, which is found in motherhood. You see, as it turns out, what a woman should be taught to desire is a household and children around her apron and an honorable man to call me, lord, right, this? The culture just freaks out when you say this, but this is actually God's pattern for women. This is her glory. It's not to enslave her. You're enslaved when you're enslaved to your lusts. You're not enslaved when you're serving a family, a husband and the Lord. This is honorable and noble, and you'll rise up and your children will call you blessed. Right, this is the glorious life and it's good, and our world hates it.

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But I also think a bit more could be said about Taylor, particularly related to her. Like celebrity status plus promiscuity. It's utterly insane to me that a woman stripped of this precious gift of sexual purity is being celebrated as today's modern woman. You notice that, like there have been movies like 40 year old virgin, it's like, oh my gosh, being a virgin is so horrible, it's so pathetic and disgusting. Even the comments on Twitter are, all you know, in the fashion a lot of them, of like oh why don't you just tell me that you've never had sex, eric, okay, right, like being impure is celebrated and being chased is laughed at. No doubt, though, taylor really is a sad picture of today's modern woman. That is what it is. It's a travesty, it's a great sadness. It's not something that we should be celebrating. So I'm going to camp out here a little bit.

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In this episode you might ask yourself in Taylor's story where's her father? I don't know anything about her father. I'm assuming you know it's probably when you get to that level of you know, superstardom it probably is not something that your dad wants to be a part of. Don't know anything about him, but I do know about this situation that it reeks of fatherlessness. It reeks of a father not doing his job. I want you to think about something I've been reading recently Doug Wilson's book Her Hand in Marriage, which is about courtship. I'm guessing this would not be. It's probably not on the Oprah book list, I'm guessing. I'm guessing Taylor hasn't promoted this one, but she should read it and I think it would be helpful.

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This is what Doug Wilson says about virginity sexual purity. Right, virginity was an inheritance brought into the marriage, protected and insured by the father, end quote. This really brings me to the point of the show, which is, to make a very brief case, that young daughters are glories. Young daughters are glories that ought to be protected by their fathers in the place where they're protected is in their father's household, until they are given in marriage to their husband and then they are protected there in their husband's household under his authority. It seems like the real failure in Taylor's story and in all the women who are being told to follow her. She's probably just a propaganda tool, right, it's a failure of fatherhood.

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Fathers should be the one stepping in, in the fashion of proverbs, and saying to their daughters and to their sons this is the loud woman, this is the woman who is immodestly dressed and sensually speaking and singing, this is the woman that you don't want to follow, because her path leads to destruction and the grave. That's what fathers should be telling their daughters about. Taylor Swift, you know, and this is where we have to be careful You're like, yeah, but the songs are so catchy. I went back to December with Taylor Swift and I really felt it when she's saying why is it so mean? Right, remember being 22? Remember red? Yeah, this is the problem.

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Right, the bad woman, the wicked woman, a woman of folly in Proverbs, has what she has smooth speech and a smooth tongue. She's enticing, she knows how to suck men into her orbit, and young women as well. Here's the interesting thing Biblically, there's no category. There is no category biblically for a young woman simply going out in the world to live on her own, sleep around a bit, find a career and partake of the serial dating game. There's no biblical category for this. Instead, what we see biblically is that the young woman is under her father's authority and when she is married, she is to be given to her husband, as we said, and part of what the father is giving as an inheritance and a gift this is the thing that he was protecting is her sexual purity, her virginity, and so this is a valuable thing. This is controversial I said this months ago on Twitter, but being a virgin is valuable, it is a precious thing to give to your spouse, and this is true for men as well, but it's especially true here in our conversation for women. So sons will leave home, but daughters are given Genesis 224,. Therefore, a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one. Flash In Numbers 30, three through 16, we have an interesting passage.

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In this passage we learn that a daughter's vow must be ratified by her father. So if the daughter makes a vow, we're told, and then she comes home and her father let's say he finds out about this, he can say no, your vow is null and void. Why is this? Well, because she is under her father's authority. That's the point that's made so clear in Numbers 33 through 16. She is under her father's authority and then it says when she is married, it is the husband who can nullify the vow, because now the authority has passed to him. It's also worth noting if a woman is divorced or a widow, her husband dies, then she is now the head of her household. She's not under her father anymore. For those of you who'd ask that question, it's a good question. But here's the point Young ladies are not sent off to college. And go find yourself. Young ladies are not sent off to college or another place. And said go find yourself.

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Numbers 33 through 16, especially in verse 14, it talks specifically about her being in physically in her father's household. So for a lot of young ladies, even in conservative reform camps, one of the ideas is like well, yeah, you're not married yet, so you need to go have a career, you need to go be in a man's world, right, you need to go out and pursue those things. The problem is you remove her largely in many ways, especially if it's not just like a job, but you're like sending her to a different location altogether. Well, how is she going to be protected in her father's household? She's not right, and so here's the point she needs to be. She is created to be under the authority of either father or husband. Otherwise she's unprotected. And that's how you get this whole generation of Taylor Swift wannabes right. Except what they're going to get is an STD and not be billionaires. They're going to be way lonelier than on the cover of Time Magazine, right?

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If father has authority over the young girl's romantic interests and sexuality, isn't this crazy in our day and age? Doug makes this case, by the way, in her hand in marriage. It's a short book and I recommend that you check it out. A father's duty is clear. He is to protect his young daughter by ensuring her sexual purity, right? So this gets into the whole courtship. He's not to allow his daughter to be serially dated and sleeping around. This is the father's role to make sure that this does not happen.

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But imagine with me for a moment if you say to the Rainbow Brigade or just people in general in our culture today that a woman's virginity is a gift or inheritance, a thing to be protected by fathers, I think to be highly regarded by young men who are pursuing lives. All people lose their minds. That's because everyone today has been trained to think that a really free woman is the woman who has been deflowered by dozens of men who are not her husband. You remember the Matt Chandler right, the pastor. He tells the story of the pastor who passes a rose around and he says I want everybody to like, pluck a petal. And then by the time it comes back and the whole room of men has handled it, he's like who would want this rose? This is what a woman is like. When she gives her sexuality a way to every man, she becomes undesirable. And of course Matt Chandler is like Jesus wants the rose, right, and he's slamming this pastor. The pastor is actually making a great point. It's actually a great point.

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It's a very proverbial wisdom point. It's to say as a father to young ladies like if you're deflowered by every man, you become undesirable. Honey, we don't want that. We want you to be beautiful and a gift to your husband and your sexual purity as part of that gift to your husband and sexes for the marriage bed. And then we say to our young people as they enter into marriage. We say to our sons as well Proverbs 5, 18,. I want you to go and be intoxicated and drunk with the love of the wife of your youth. Let her breast satisfy you at all times Proverbs 5, 18.

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Right, there is a proper place for sexual pleasure in marriage for young people, and the gift that is given from men and women to each other is their sexual purity. This, particularly in daughters, is what fathers are supposed to be protecting. So the simple fact remains virginity is desirable and good and beautiful. How important is virginity in a woman? Well, we also learned in Deuteronomy 22, kind of the answer to this question.

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We learned that a husband who is duped so imagine this situation a husband is duped, his, his, you know, betrothed. She says, and her father says she's a virgin. Well, what happens if this claim is false? Somehow the husband finds out. Well, he could bring her in Deuteronomy 22,. He could bring her to the elders of the city. What if this claim were true? Like there's steep punishments if he's incorrect. So the weighty thing for him to even bring this charge.

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But this is what we read in Deuteronomy 22,. If she has found guilty, that she lied and she's deceiving her future husband. She's defrauding him. This is what we read. They shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house and the men of the city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel to play the harlot in her father's house. Isn't that a stunning like in our culture today? Like can you? Can you imagine if people happen to read Deuteronomy 22? First of all, they're going to hate it.

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But even think about the concept that you are not to play the harlot in your father's house, to sleep around and then defraud your husband by telling him your version. Think about the consequences. But also think about where it says she should be stoned in front of her father's house. Why would she be stoned in front of her father's house? Because he was the one that was supposed to be protecting her sexual purity. It's a judgment on the father's house as well, isn't it? He allowed her to play the harlot in her father's house.

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That's one of the biggest themes you should see when you see a generation of Taylor Swift's. You should see fathers and husbands who have completely selfishly and sinfully abdicated their roles as father's husbands and authorities. Taylor Swift is what you get when the patriarchy has just completely given up its responsibility and duty to its people. There is father rule, but it's horrible. There's always fathers ruling. Even when they're abdicating they are ruling. It's just very, very poorly into the destruction of themselves and the judgment upon their household. How many fathers have allowed their daughters to do this and the judgment is against them as well? Your daughter will be stoned to death in front of your house. There will be a societal reckoning.

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Do you think Deuteronomy 22 is saying what the people in my comments are right now? Whatever a woman wants to do with her own sexuality, that's her own business. Ain't no man gonna tell me what to do? No, what I do in the privacy of my own bedroom is no one's business. That's not what God says. All these things that happen in your household are full of community ramifications. They're full of their public statements. What you do in the privacy of your home ultimately ends up being a public statement.

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One of my pastor friends sent me this after the Swift Debacle. It's a quote from William Gage, which I've been reading as well. It says this besides, who knows not that the preservation of families results in the good of church and nation. Let me read that again. Who knows not that the preservation of families results in the good of church and nation? So a conscientious performance of household duties regarding the end and future of them may be accounted a public work. You see the issue here what we do in our households, it echoes out into all of community and civilization and our society and culture. You can't just do things quote unquote in the privacy of your own home and not have societal ramifications. Of course it's going to impact all of society and the Lord in his infinite wisdom knows this. Which is why, due to Ronyme 22, you have to deal so harshly with sexual sin like this.

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Again, where was the stoning for deception to take place? At the door of her father's house? How many fathers need to hear that word and absolutely just repent? How many of you completely failed to do your job, sent your daughter to college and said good luck honey. How many husbands have allowed their wives to simply imbibe the TMZ Hollywood culture? Their wives are in the Christian church. Their wives are consuming things like People Magazine all the time. Remember going to like churches. Now, I'll never forget this. Going to church and some of the young ladies and the women in the church. It's like so what's going on in your life? Oh my gosh, I just we need to pray for Taylor Swift. Did you see what her boyfriend did to her? I'm like these people aren't even real. This is like the Hunger Games, right. This is like made for TV, but people imbibe it like it's real, and then their daughters are reading Cosmo and really desiring to become like these harlots. And that's what Taylor Swift and what she embodies is harlotry.

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Where you see sexual sin like this in women, you ought to see what's really behind it, which is a failure of leadership and authority from husbands and fathers. All of this Deuteronomy 22, everything I've been saying. It's completely shocking in our culture and people will accuse me, eric, you're being a shock jock, like no, I'm really just saying things that are just wildly unpopular, but I believe them and I believe our culture needs to hear them Right when we talk about things like Deuteronomy 22,. It should be a shock to our system because it should show us how far we've slid down the path into sexual immorality and away from biblical standards.

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Fathers need to take sexual sin seriously, particularly in their protective role over their daughters. For the sons as well, I am not saying don't do it for your sons, but you have a special role here for your daughters. You should do everything possible to protect your daughters from promiscuity or sexually immoral behavior or modest stress. This is what fathers are for, all right. Fathers are the ones who say to their daughters you are not wearing that, you are not going out with that boy, but, daddy, I really like it, I don't care. Right, this is what fathers are for as a protection, and it's not simply to say no to their daughters, but it's also to say yes, to point at the glory which is, hopefully, their wife and the flourishing home and beautiful women who know how to adorn their homes and obey their husbands and submit joyfully and their home is bursting like a fruitful vine. And you get this feeling. Brian's Brian Covey's song.

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Pastor Brian write a mighty host. The woman is a mighty host. She brings her army with her. There is nothing more glorious and beautiful than a woman who is adorning her home. Right? So fathers, be protecting, but also be promoting and cultivating this love for biblical femininity and motherhood.

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You know, this was so much of the failure. I think of a lot of young wrestlers and reformed. And then what became TGC is. You know, we were talking about things like the glory of femininity, but we this is crazy we were not grounding femininity primarily in what it is, which is motherhood. Right, we were telling women in the gospel coalition that being single was really great. We were telling women that really the fulfilling path was singleness, which is an absolute, complete lie. Right, eve is the mother of all living. She has a purpose. This is why Paul says in Timothy and Titus and elsewhere I would have the young widows be married and bear children and be fruitful in their homes, learn how to love your children and your husbands. This is a woman's glory, not being dressed like a stripper with a cat around your neck, right.

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The other thing I would say here is it's not wrong for men to desire sexual purity. Right, it's not wrong for them. Now, it is incredibly stupid, by the way. There are mannisfirer guys who are like I mean, they're sleeping with everybody and they're like I need to find me a virgin. You're like come on, man, if you're a whore, like you can't have a triple, double, quadruple standard. And so it's not wrong for men to want sexual purity in a wife. And so you should say to our young people be sexually pure men and women. If they desire it in their future wife, these young men, they should desire it for themselves, right? So, fathers, if you have young sons, you know, son, don't go to the strip club, don't consume pornography, don't make your rounds through college storms. Its behavior is despicable and vile. Let's celebrate, aim at and cultivate sexual purity on all fronts.

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The other thing I would say is those who have committed sexual sins should realize the severity of those sins and repent accordingly. So when you read something like Deuteronomy 22, which, by the way, the death penalty is not in the Old Testament, it's not just for any forms of fornication, right, there's some cases where a man who fornicates with his betrothed, he can go to the father, the father can allow it, he pays the bride, they get married, you know, etc. There's different circumstances, but do you kind of get from this the and you should the severity of sexual sin, this thing that we treat so glibly, the you know rainbow brigade in the comment section on Taylor Swift, like they're, they're celebratory about absolutely what is vile. But even in the Christian church we just have this low view like, oh yeah, they fornicated, you know it's, it's not how God sees it and so we need to repent accordingly.

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You know, one of the ways I always said you could tell people weren't repentant was when they stopped doing those things. But they would still brag about them. They would still still tell the stories like, uncle Rico, oh man, let me tell you about some of my exploits. Oh, you know, you would get those kinds of stories and to me that said, I don't think you are actually repentant fully about your sin. But then you meet other people and are like, look, I was this way and it was vile, and I thank God that he saved me. I thank God that his grace washed me from my sin and helped me to walk in repentance and obedience. That is a picture of what the gospel is supposed to do. All right, we don't celebrate our sins. But this is the great thing, this is the gospel frees you, no matter what you've done. You can be free in Christ from your sin to walk in obedience to the Lord. You can be free from the guilt of a dirty conscience for all the things that you've done. But it starts by realizing how severe those things are and how steep the price of Christ dying for those sins really was.

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Now some of the last things I want to say here. Just by way of application, I think it's very clear from like Deuteronomy 22 and some of the passages we've looked at. I don't think it's a wise idea that we send our young daughters out and away from a father's household and authority. Just go to college, go live on your own. Well, here's the deal. They're not young men. You can do that with young men at a certain point because you need to leave and go find a wife and create a new household. That's really not what a young woman is doing. She's supposed to be under her father's authority Very clear from scripture A young woman is unprotected and unsafe when she is not under her father or husband's headship. A young woman who does not have this protection of authority on her as a head is unprotected, and so this is a dangerous place for her to exist.

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The main point, if you're a young woman and you're in your father's household, the main point is not that you should be really using this time to develop a robust career, college, education etc. That's not the main point of what this time is to be used for. You're still aiming at motherhood. It's still important to be in your father's household, learning from him and being aimed at motherhood, how to be a great wife and having the protection of a wise, loving, godly father over you. It's important that you're around your mother. It's important that you're continuing to learn from her All the trades.

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This is the other crazy thing to me. We act like compiling spreadsheets and so precious and it's such a skill and it's so important to be doing, and then we act like where is the art of motherhood and being a wife? Where has that gone? Do you know how hard it is? I'm so impressed by all the ladies at our church. I think about it. It's like some of the food that they cook, some of the personal favorite as we get to Christmas time, some of the cheesecakes, some of the breads. I mean the art, the skill, the mastery, the craftsmen level, mastery that is required to be a great wife and mother, Like everybody today is like oh, being a mom is so easy.

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Well, yeah, I mean if you aim at the absolute bare minimum and then they think motherhood is not glorious, well, of course it's not glorious if that's what you're aiming at. But if you are aiming at, like, peak femininity and motherhood, it is a glorious and hard and takes full devotion to do those things well, to be a mom, to nurture, to care, to create an environment that is just full of life, teeming with life in the home. So I think part of this we need to recapture the glory of being a mom and wife and woman in the home. Part of the problem is you send these young ladies out in the workforce, which I'm not saying it's bad if they have a job. But if you say the main point of this time is like go find a career, go submit to another man in another place who's not your husband or your father, it's just vocational, are you really teaching her to grow into a godly woman who can keep a home and make it a place of beauty and rest and joy and peace? Probably not. So.

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Again, I think the fundamental principle here is a woman should be in her father's household under her authority until she's given to her husband. It's both for protection and cultivation of the motherly arts. This is the great gift sexual purity and just the you know, just amazing skills of motherhood that she can pass on to her husband and her future generations. That's going to be the glory. That's the glory that scripture describes. And again, fathers. This isn't like lock your daughters away and keep her from a husband because you want to keep her for yourself. That would be irresponsible. But the whole point is that you're training her up. She's an arrow to your training her up and you're aiming her at the right thing, which is husband and household. So fathers need to be taking a proactive role.

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By the way, we've talked about this on the pugilist will continue to do so. What is that role for fathers? And helping both daughters and sons find suitable spouses. We talk about this from William Gouge with Pastor Dan Burkholder. That's an appugelist. You can sign up for that for as little as $5 a month and get more practical tips, information etc. For how to help your sons and daughters find spouses.

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Again, all this to say as we wrap up this episode with Taylor Swift. We've talked about the Puritans, we've talked about the glory of daughters in the home. All of this to say I just want to encourage our listeners. I know most of you are probably not, most of you are probably not going to Taylor Swift concerts, and especially in such a manner that you're aiming at that and saying, like I want my daughters, I want to be like Taylor Swift. Right, I get that, but I think what we need in our day and age, think about the Gospel Coalition, think about what they've done. Anybody who speaks up against the culture. You get a Kevin DeYoung, moscow mood article, like a slap on the wrist from Dolores Umbridge. That's what you get. Bad little boy. You spoke the truth. You're not allowed to do that. You need to quiet down. You're not allowed to feel like you're mood. That's what you get from a Kevin DeYoung. Meanwhile, the Gospel Coalition is writing articles the Gospel according to Taylor Swift by Trevon Wax still up, I think it's 2016.

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And what we can learn from Taylor Swift's breakups about the Gospel? And then you can read you can find it on the archive, one of the archive services. But the Gospel Coalition they took it down. But what Christians can learn and appreciate from Taylor Swift's latest eras tour? I mean, give me a break, but it really is about. It discourages the people of God long term, doesn't it? And so I think what we need is just to be encouraged that you're not crazy for saying that wives and motherhood are glorious for women to pursue. You're not crazy for looking at Taylor Swift and saying and all the propaganda machine saying, this is dumb. This is stupid and dumb, and so I want to just be an encouragement to the fathers and mothers, but the young ladies as well. Aim at the things that God says are glorious. Forget the world. I love this picture. By the way, we'll close with this Four fathers.

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Caleb is 85 years old. He is about to inherit, but in order to inherit the promised land, which he was promised right, he came over and it's 40. He's 40 years old. He comes over, he spies out the land. He's one of a few men who he fights the mob and he says this is good land and God's going to give it to us. And then they have to wait 40 years. So now fast forward. Caleb's 85 years old and they come into, inherit the land, and it's all giants who are in the land. And I love what Caleb says to Joshua. He's like put me in, coach. He's like I'm as vigorous as I've ever been, I'm strong, I'm ready to fight, we're going to win. God promised Right. So, fathers, as you look at the culture, as you look at all the obstacles that you face, as you look at the giants in the land and the Taylor Swift billions but you know we were talking about big money and big powerful forces. You say, with Joshua and with Caleb, god promised, god promised me, we're going to conquer, we're going to defeat the giants in the land. Because why? Because God is with us.

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Paul's in the middle of the sea, the end of acts, the storm, the angel, the Lord stands by him and he says don't be afraid, I have plans and I have a purpose for you. I just want to encourage you guys. Even as we get into all the Taylor Swift stuff, I think the thing we should do is laugh Proverbs 31,. Woman laughs at the times to come. And idiots, because that's what it is, this is idiocy. You can laugh at those things but also be full of courage and hope and strength. Do not be afraid that the Lord stands with you in this work, as you seek to build strong households, as you seek to teach your wives and your daughters and your sons how to live out what they've been called to be as men and women. God will strengthen you for this task. We will close with that. I hope it's been an encouragement.

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Again, want to encourage people to check out the Pugilist. We've been talking about William Gage. We're going to be talking about more on courtship, with Doug Wilson getting into the practicals. I know a lot of people have young kids, but it's still helpful to think through that. Then, of course, we're in the phase now where it's like, oh, I really actually have to figure this out and get our kids prepared. I'll tell you one thing it does for me as well. As you start to think about the preparation process like in my case for sons, preparing my sons to be married it really forces me to look at the time table and say, okay, I have a year and a half, three years for some, four for the other. Okay, I have a set time period. And it really forces you to think, okay, at that time not saying they're going to get married at that time, but I need to get them so that they are when they're 18, they're at least ready. So that's one of the things I want to talk about in the Pugilist as well People will be unpacking.

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What do you actually have to do to get your sons ready? We know they have to be providers. We know that they have to be sexually pure. If you've got sons, that means you need to equip them. How are they going to deal with the pornography issue? How are they going to deal with smartphones, the brothel in your pocket? How are you going to be able to deal and teach your sons to deal with those things? How are they going to lead their family? Do they know how to lead family worship? It's one of the things that we've been doing in our household, especially with my oldest too, especially with my oldest. Treat us like we're your kids and lead us through family worship.

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I'll give you a little coaching along the way, but you got to be able to cataclyse. You got to be able to pray for your family. You got to be able to teach and ask questions. You got to be able to do these things. How are you going to lead a wife? If you can't do that? Then career what are you going to do? You got to provide. How are you going to provide? How are you going to have enough money? What's your plan? What's your mission? Do you understand what households and families are for? If not, let's get you ready. All right, so, really, really good things. That's on the boy side.

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Of course, you have a unique set of things you have to prepare women for. This is the other thing. This is why I think keeping women under their father's care in the household is so important. I'm not fundamentally preparing my daughter to go be career boss, babe, lady. That's not what I'm preparing her to be if I have a daughter. Right, that's not what you're aiming at. You're aiming at motherhood, and so what would be most conducive Is the college environment or is being in the workforce. Is that the main training ground for motherhood? No, it's not so, even though, again, I'm not saying a woman can't work, not saying that she can't be involved in family businesses and that sort of thing. But that's the other beauty. If you can have family business, small business, she can work with dad around mom, like it's household economy. Just not crazy about sending daughters off to environments where they're going to. It's a seedbed for something else. You're training her.

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The workforce is the world of men. People don't like this, but that's what it is Right and that's the reason we say one of the caveats and one of the questions is well, homeschooling can be problematic, because one of the things you just need to be careful with we homeschool forever, right Is you have to get your sons around other men too, like they can't just be around mom all day, and so that's something you have to be careful of. And so what do you say? We say, well, we go, send them into the workforce with men, because that's where you learn how to be men. But if you're sending daughters into the workforce, what are you? Training them become Men, okay, so it's like, well, there's some things you can do that are not that, but you have to be careful. Right Still needs to be around. Mom Still needs to be focusing on motherhood. I know everybody in our culture is going to freak out about that, but the main aim is motherhood. Even if there's work, main aim is still motherhood.

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Well, hopefully this episode has been encouraging and we encourage you to check out new christened press conference and you can go to newchristenedpresscom slash conference June 6th through 8th. Best pricing you will ever get is right now. Sign up, bring the whole family, love to have you guys there. We're going to have a great time, concert from Brian Sauvay and we're going to do Psalm singing. It's going to be amazing. Stay for worship on Sunday Probably going to be more than one service and we'd love to see you guys there at the conference in June in Ogden 2024. Well, thanks again for listening to this episode of the Hard Men podcast. Until next time, stay frosty. Fight the good fight, fight like men.

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