Athletic Recovery & Performance Podcast

Navin Hettiarachchi-4 pillars to the best version of you!

July 28, 2020 Season 1 Episode 8
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Athletic Recovery & Performance Podcast
Navin Hettiarachchi-4 pillars to the best version of you!
Jul 28, 2020 Season 1 Episode 8

ūüéß New podcast episode #8
Great Interview with Navin Hettiarachchi. Navin is the Director of Wellness and Performance with the Washington Wizards and hosts his own podcast 9' minutes to thrive with Navin(https://www.navinhealth.com/podcast/)focusing on the 4 Pillars to the BEST version of you!

Navin is also the founder of the REDT method that integrates his unique expertise in multiple healthcare disciplines‚Äď osteopathic, functional medicine, chiropractic, physical therapy, Trigger Point needling/acupuncture, athletic training, PRI, strength and conditioning, and cupping ‚Äď complemented with the latest evidence-based practices in science and technology. He travelled across the country and to Australia, Belgium, England, Malaysia, India, Ireland, and Thailand to learn from the pioneers and experts in these healthcare disciplines.

|   | Navin’s Biohacking Devices | Short Description
| 1.       | Nutrition: Water filter  AquaTru Reverse Osmosis System - No Installation Water Purifier‎ | www.waterandwellness.com/aquatru/reverseosmosis‎
| 2.       | Mindfulness: Meditation, visualization, and self-hypnosis device  BRAIN TAP - Guided Meditation with Music - Light Frequencies - Sound Frequencies - Spoken Word   | https://braintap.com/

| 3.       | Mindfulness (mental sharpness) and for Sleep/Recovery: Omnipemf | https://omnipemf.com/science-behind/ 
| 4.       | Sleep/Recovery: Apollo | https://apolloneuro.com/ 
| 5.       | Overall Health/Recovery: Richway - Mini Biomat   | https://biomatdirect.com/ 
| 6.       | Recovery/healing: Earthing Sticky Mat Kit   |  https://www.earthing.com/collections/all-1/products/ground-therapy-double-sleep-mat-kit 
| 7.       | Sleep/Recovery and Jetlag: AYO | https://goayo.com/ayo-glasses 
| 8.       | Sleep/Recovery: Joovv Red light | https://joovv.com/  


Navin Hettiarachchi
Instagram  https://www.instagram.com/navin.het/
Website https://www.navinhealth.com/
Twitter https://twitter.com/navin_h?lang=en
Podcast https://www.navinhealth.com/podcast/

Please find Anthony Kjenstad, Jake Wilks and Firefly‚ĄĘ
Email:  Anthony@athleticrecovery.net
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/athleticrecoveryandperformance/notifications/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/fireflyrecovery
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fireflyrecovery/
Website: https://recoveryfirefly.com/

Show Notes Transcript

ūüéß New podcast episode #8
Great Interview with Navin Hettiarachchi. Navin is the Director of Wellness and Performance with the Washington Wizards and hosts his own podcast 9' minutes to thrive with Navin(https://www.navinhealth.com/podcast/)focusing on the 4 Pillars to the BEST version of you!

Navin is also the founder of the REDT method that integrates his unique expertise in multiple healthcare disciplines‚Äď osteopathic, functional medicine, chiropractic, physical therapy, Trigger Point needling/acupuncture, athletic training, PRI, strength and conditioning, and cupping ‚Äď complemented with the latest evidence-based practices in science and technology. He travelled across the country and to Australia, Belgium, England, Malaysia, India, Ireland, and Thailand to learn from the pioneers and experts in these healthcare disciplines.

|   | Navin’s Biohacking Devices | Short Description
| 1.       | Nutrition: Water filter  AquaTru Reverse Osmosis System - No Installation Water Purifier‎ | www.waterandwellness.com/aquatru/reverseosmosis‎
| 2.       | Mindfulness: Meditation, visualization, and self-hypnosis device  BRAIN TAP - Guided Meditation with Music - Light Frequencies - Sound Frequencies - Spoken Word   | https://braintap.com/

| 3.       | Mindfulness (mental sharpness) and for Sleep/Recovery: Omnipemf | https://omnipemf.com/science-behind/ 
| 4.       | Sleep/Recovery: Apollo | https://apolloneuro.com/ 
| 5.       | Overall Health/Recovery: Richway - Mini Biomat   | https://biomatdirect.com/ 
| 6.       | Recovery/healing: Earthing Sticky Mat Kit   |  https://www.earthing.com/collections/all-1/products/ground-therapy-double-sleep-mat-kit 
| 7.       | Sleep/Recovery and Jetlag: AYO | https://goayo.com/ayo-glasses 
| 8.       | Sleep/Recovery: Joovv Red light | https://joovv.com/  


Navin Hettiarachchi
Instagram  https://www.instagram.com/navin.het/
Website https://www.navinhealth.com/
Twitter https://twitter.com/navin_h?lang=en
Podcast https://www.navinhealth.com/podcast/

Please find Anthony Kjenstad, Jake Wilks and Firefly‚ĄĘ
Email:  Anthony@athleticrecovery.net
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/athleticrecoveryandperformance/notifications/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/fireflyrecovery
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fireflyrecovery/
Website: https://recoveryfirefly.com/

Anthony Kjenstad :

Hello, my name is Anthony Kjenstad and welcome to the athletic recovery and performance podcast. In this podcast you'll follow my journey of understanding the science behind recovering performance and the technologies that help us get there. I will be interviewing athletes and the behind the scenes professionals that help these athletes reach optimal performance and recovery. Hey podcasters This is an exciting podcast for me. I'm speaking with Navin Hett he is the director of wellness and performance with the Washington Wizards. I had the pleasure of meeting him a few years ago at the NBA conference where I attend to discuss the Firefly. And I also ran across him recently when I ran across his podcast "9 minutes to thrive within the Navin". Navin considers himself a one stop shop for healthcare in his role with the Wizards and focuses on what he calls the four pillars of the best version of you. He is also the founder of the REDT method that integrates has unique expertise in multiple healthcare disciplines. I really love the energy and have been brought to the podcast and I'm enjoying his podcast as well. I do have to give a little disclaimer, we do start this podcast kind of midstream discussing the difference between the geko which is the medical version of the firefly. So you're going to kind of start this podcast off midstream. I hope you enjoy.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

I seen that. So that's that's the only difference right? One is medical version one is just a daily wear.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Yeah, so the geko was initially the primary product it was it was invented to prevent blood clots after surgery, which it competes with sequential compression. That was their primary goal. What they eventually found out is, hey, not only do we prevent blood clots, but we reduce swelling. We help wounds heal faster in the lower extremity. And oh, by the way, we have this positive effect on athletic recovery are out, you know, so most of their scientists on the medical side, just a little bit of science on the recovery side is you most technologies don't end up going too deep on on the science there. And quite honestly, it's not their focus, their focus is this $7 billion pool of preventing blood clots and reducing swelling. So to them living in this performance world. They're a UK based company, they don't really care about that side of the world. So we'll have a reusable technology hopefully in the next 12 to 14 months, that I think we'll have more of an application and like your prosumer your, you know, your everyday weekend warrior, your youth athlete, your, your ultra, you know, runner Iron Man, but right now we've sold mostly into pro sports, college sports and a military like so. PJ's, navy seals, etc have found a lot of advantage to using the technology. So yeah, it's been a cool journey.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

It's such it's such a great technology, just the community. As of yesterday one one of my wifes friends friend had an ankle sprain and mental ER and no fracture but swollen up so bad and firefly was one of the things that I sent her I'm like hey, take a look at this is something that you know you could be around while you're babysitting or take care your kids and stuff like that. So I think it's just such an easy use.

Anthony Kjenstad :

No it's good to hear that you you make that connection and fortunately for me a lot of selling into the training rooms has been very challenging because the technology so simple, but kind of complex in the different ways you could use it. So I'm glad you've made that connection. I've I've got a lot of training rooms now and i'd love your opinion on this. I don't even use cold therapy anymore. Quite honestly, for like an ankle strain sprain they'll go directly to a firefly throw it on, keep it on as long as possible and the outcomes like the LA Dodgers here locally, I also do sell a cold compression device in my distribution company called the nice unit. It's a iceless cold compression, and they won't even they don't even use cold compression anymore. So it's interesting. I'm almost selling two competing technologies, but there's still a lot of people who believe ice is good in the training room, or it's just what they've always used. Um, but if people truly understand the technology, you would use a firefly over ice in my opinion, anyways,

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Anthony, I think is what modality can you use 24 hours a day? Pretty much you know, you could read this to go to a movie, you can read this to go to a dinner. Not only that, it's just work on a whole systematic effort, not just ankle, just really getting recovery. So that's I think that's what the best thing about the fireflies that's not just that limb it's a whole body response.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Yeah, this wasn't meant to be a commercial for me, but I do appreciate that you understand it becauseCuz that's my, what keeps me up at night for the last four years? Um, you know, it's like, Why do some people get it right out of the gate? And some it takes a long time and we can you know, we can talk more about that in the future but yeah, I'd love your, your insight on on why that is. But um, so I ran across to you, because your podcast and I thought it was interesting, you know, to listen to what you're doing so, for my community, tell me a little bit about yourself and what you're doing with the wizards.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

so I started with the Washington Wizards 17 years ago, before that I was with the Redskins. Um, then 17 years ago, when I started I was pretty much athletic training, all training room, then, about seven years into that. We just saw that we need to do something in the weight room, so is moving straight to the weight room but with what I did, I just couldn't keep my both feet in one room you know, I just it was just very natural for me to have one foot in the training room one for the in the weight room, and then all of a sudden that just came became who I am. And then it could be a day that a player comes in. Check the Oura ring see how their HRV see how they are resting heart rate, see how they're slept. And you know asking about hey, how was how did you feel it's your stomach blue that kind of goes into more functional medicine that he can supplements that's one of my babies then go from adjusting a neck to chiropractic dry needling to go to the weight room and lifting and then doing you know post recovery Cryo Chamber or some dry needling to go from fight or flight to rest and digestion. So in terms of what I do is just a army Swiss knife, a little bit of everything. Just once.Stop Shop.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Got it. Got it. So, so from a formal training side, I mean, I saw that you came through kind of as an athletic trainer, but you've done a lot of additional things to get you where you at, are you considered now a functional medicine physician or have you just kind of taken all these modalities of chiropractic care, ATC, strength and conditioning and and, you know, model this I kind of think that's the new performance director right is who who does it best? Is it strength and conditioning is that athletic training, but you've kind of got it all in one but there's no real formal training for that right? You kind of have to go into different specialties and pull out what you need and and build this perfect performance director.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Absolutely. I think that's what makes me very different. I'll have gone from India to Australia, a month in Australia, two weeks to India, Belgium, Ireland, all these countries and learning from the real expert the learning from the guy who's eight years old, the guy who wrote the book that manual for osteopathic or chiropractic. So instead of being very silo instead of being an athletic trainer, I'll look at through 8 different lenses. You know I look at the whole 360 approach or player for example, it could be that players right hip is getting tight. Because of that there is sincerity in so it all starts with the nutrition all start with how they sleep, their neck is constantly on because their mouth breather so really dive into it. I kind of call it my ready to approach root cause evaluation and treatment right the funding fundamentals this kind of dive into sleep, nutrition, mindfulness, corrective movement, so from the REDT method, dive into seeing it's just his neck is not getting tight every morning because Have is just tight. That's another reason. Could it be the glasses? Could it be that dental? Could it be the way that they breath? I'm some I'm a very much of a biohacker when it comes to human humans?

Anthony Kjenstad :

Yeah, yeah. Do you find you know, I'm in the pro sports, everybody seems to be very siloed, right? Like, I'm the orthopedic surgeon. I'm the athletic trainer, I'm strengthen conditioning now you're putting this director of performance and you've even added wellness, which I think I want you to dive into that as well, because I think that's a missed spot. But where do you live in the training room? I mean, is it is it you have to be probably very politically minded in the training room, I'm assuming.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

So right Anthony, it's,it's very different, but at the same token, the players see the value, right. The way that I know the place in the value is that in my 17 years, I've been went through so many players. But when the old players call and said, Hey, I went to the doctor, he recommended this, or my mom is having a surgery, can you talk to help me through? Or my wife is pregnant? What supplements should I take? You know, or the guys that that I'm in teams right now? Hey, I'm sending you my report, MRI report, can you take a look at it? Tell me what's your opinion, this is what they're doing. So I know I'm doing something right. Just by the feedback that I'm getting from other people and at the same time, I'm getting amazing results.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Got it. So So from a formalized perspective, if like my 16 year old son wanted to be you, I saw that you went to the Master's in United States. You got a master's in the United States Sports Academy. I've never heard of that. Is that just one of the pieces? Is that an athletic training component? Or can you define that a little bit?

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Um, it's Anthony's super simple. So when I graduated in college in 2000, I want to do my doctorate I'm pretty much in my family, the first person to go to school came from Sri Lanka. So I'm like art, you know, I'm gonna do my doctorate. So I went to Rocky Mountain university to start taking some classes but then like, a few months later, I got internship with the Redskins. I'm like, wow, I can leave that, you know. So then at the same time, I want to get my master's so this was the best fit that I didn't have to travel. It was all online. I just to be honest with you, I did it to do it. So I have those credentials. I'm not a letter chaser but I want to learn it's all about learning. So that was just one of the one of the tools that I kind of went after.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Got it. So in your podcast, you talked about your four pillars of wellness. Where did you get that from and could you maybe go into each of them just, you know, I guess kind of in numerical order of what you think is the most important down to two, and then I'm going to ask you to add a fifth pillar which is blood flow.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Yeah, I mean, I think blood flow is part of everything you know. Um, so Anthony with with all this time in the NBA, I feel like what is it? Why is it Why is somebody going back to the neck pain or the hip tightness, you know, you're looking at an MRI, everything's clean, but this kid is having a problem, you know, so I kind of been back to root cause what's the root cause, you know, root cause evaluation, then pretty much Okay, are we found the root cause evaluation, then we got to diagnose it. Okay. And then treat it so I kind of I call it REDT, REDT method and when you find that root cause evaluation, everything kind of went down into four pillars. It was a sleep issue, it was a nutrition is use a mindfulness issue. It's a correct movement issue. And also kind of quickly going into each pillar. If you don't have your sleeve down in the quality asleep, the REM sleep, the deep sleep. If you don't get your heart rate lower early, you are missing the biggest thing. There's nothing better than cleaning your brain and repairing your body then sleep and it's free. I call other players as it's free throw, what's your sleep score or 69? So are you going to be happy with a 69 percentage free throw? No, we need to get 200 because it's free free throw, you know, there's nothing like sleep. Then we go to the next pillar nutrition. real food quality food. I'm a big fan of one ingredient food, salmon or avocado or nuts are just one food ingredients we cannot run away from that they are that they are in a society of artificially genetically modify pesticides. So that's pillar number two. pillar number three is being mindful, being present. Really pillar this. It has an effect on everything. Just like every other pillar has an effect on this. If you're not mindfulness, you can go to sleep you get Now, if you're not mindful about what you eat, if you're not mindful about a great example, Anthony's free throw, our guys make hundred free throws in a row. But when they come to the game, they're thinking about the shot they miss or they think about the school, they can make the free throw, right? And now you know, we are in this bubble guys are talking about can go to sleep because it's a new environment. You're always thinking, thinking thinking. So that's the mindful pillar. And you could see that kind of diving deep into it. You could you could talk about, you know, they have done studies on radiation or something. They say, Hey, you know what, we're going to get 10 people we're going to say, this machine is radiation, you're going to lose your hair, but they didn't get any radiation, all of a sudden they lose hair. Right. So the mind is the best medicine what's in between our ears. is the best medicine then the last pillar is correct movement. Yes, you could we could talk about the listeners the crossfitter by the way speaking about firefly, amazing tool for the crossfitters after the CrossFit class, put it on move about your day, and that's nothing like recovery. crossfitters It's great to do CrossFit. What are you doing when you're not doing CrossFit is great to play basketball, what do you do not when you are not playing basketball? for regular people? Are you just a runner? You know what I mean? Are you doing some strength tests or we all have our individual need, all of us are tight in certain area, loosen set area, just like a thumbprint it just so individually kind of going back to the 360 degree approach for human being. We have very unique we have own individual biomarkers from the gut to the brain to the how we move. So Anthony correct moment is to find out what that person's go to. Is it could be a big toe that's not more than it could be the neck is not moving and fixing them so they could go on and perform what they want. So those are the four pillars. And that's how I came about the four pillars.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Got it. So So you guys are down there with the NBA, you're in the bubble here. What would you say? I would assume a couple things. Number one, you're getting to know your players better than ever, because you guys are on lockdown. What are the advantages to being in the bubble? And you know, I would think a lot of people think there's disadvantages but what are the advantages of of you guys all joining together as a team?

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Anthony, you just said it, Anthony. I think it's uh, you know, before I get to maybe one meal with these guys, once a week, every couple of days. Now we get a three meals with them. They're sitting down and chatting. They're not in a rush to go home drive home so they had to be traffic or their girlfriend or their wife or their kids. You know, so self selfishly. I get to know them so well we are spending so much time together. I think it's just great you know you just get to sit down and have a talk with the GM or the head coach or the youngest player on the team and that's been really cool.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Yeah, that's got it in listening to you talk that's got to be a huge advantage for like the rookies right? That probably don't get to know these guys as well because they're they're just not letting them in the bubble. Right. But now they're all stuck together in the bubble. They don't have any. So I would guess from your your four pillars, mindfulness or wellness is a is better because of I mean, I'm sure there's negatives, people missing their family, etc. But if you are buying in and you decided to come there, I got to imagine that this could transcend it to 2021 being maybe a better season just because the guys are gelling together.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Absolutely and speaking are the four pillars is a great way to just talk about it. Hey, how are you? Sleep if you didn't sleep, or let's talk about your room, the temperature, the computer, the glasses, or let's talk about the nutrition or this is low fat, but let's get the full fat. Or let's read the ingredients. So every day I get to touch and make themselves make a difference. Help them help these young athletes, like you said the rookies are so they could play in the league for 20 years and every day, teach them before practice after practice here is how you how your body is supposed to move. So this has been an unbelievable time to share and teach. And I think before Anthony, you say something kind of goes up one ear and out the other because they're too busy, they're kind of thinking about their next thing, but now they're mindful of their present day in the bubble so just really been amazing.

Anthony Kjenstad :

So you hit a couple technologies that you were talking about, um, what else are you so so you guys you talked about Oura and I've obviously seen the press on that being able to maybe early detect COVID. Um, you talked about the glasses so I'm assuming you're talking light blocking glasses and staying on the circadian rhythm, etc. What other technology? You know, two questions. First one's for me you talked about sleep. How do you get better REM sleep? I mean I wear an Oura ring I wear a Polar watch. I'm not by any means an elite athlete but I'm athletic and I try to maintain a healthy lifestyle. Um The one thing I see in the Oura RIng that really always bums me out is I don't get deep sleep I get 20 minutes a night and I you know tried to do the right things reduce my caffeine intake by two o'clock you know trying to eat the right things not eat after 7pm all those things do you have any hacks for the community in regards to how to get better sleep?

Navin Hettiarchchi :

I'm gonna dive in deep into it just kind of kind of the high level is kind of just looking at you looking at the numbers looking at the translate my my or I have two years with the data, right so I could really look at it and I love Oura Ring so it's very individualized but just general throwing out some stuff will be like deep sleep and somebody said then again and I want to say quality of carbohydrates. You know how maybe some sweet potato see how that would affect just like food brings you up if you junk food, right, your heart rate slowing down at six o'clock, that's when you're about to get up like good, bad, bad sugars or bad food you get your heart rate is working your HRV is working too much. Just like that. If you put quality of ingredients, the body's got done, done, doing his work by 12 o'clock or one o'clock rest of the time is repairing versus the time is REM sleep. So that's one then a lot of people who don't get deep sleep is because they're not going into early. They're not locked in with their Circadium rhythm. So deep sleep is the early part of the day. That's the first part Quarter in the second quarter. So maybe dial it inone hour early or 30 minutes early and see how that will change.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Got it? No, I appreciate that. That feedback. So outside of that, are you blocking light after a certain time? Are you um, you know, kind of walk through some other technologies that you guys maybe are messing around with now that you're you've got a captive audience.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Um, Anthony that's, that's a key word for me. I'm messing around. Obviously could come to my room right now and see it. I pretty much got pretty much got pin different hacks. So one half would be something like that. Something like this. Halo. Noah is called a brain tap. So subconscious programming. And then I have some stuff like that will help you be mindful help you breathe better And I got stuff like, neural rhythm. Same thing downregulate actually put this under my pillow to help me go to sleep. Let's see what else I have. I have Apollo | https://apolloneuro.com/ . Same thing this this guy a couple of different programs to downgrade again sleep socialize. So again, everything's working on brain. That's my baby right now since the COVID I've been doing. If you go to my Instagram there's a picture of me self hypnotic myself for them to go and do some tooth work I have that then I got some stuff that I think all our Overall Health/Recovery: Richway - Mini Biomat | https://biomatdirect.com/ it's what it is is it's like infrared infrared, infrared heat. Then it has a grounding crystal so what happens that our bodies positive The earth is negative. So it's used the negative ions to heal ourselves. Then I got a new another one that I really love it's called somatic device So somatic device so this kind of helps minimize the, the junk, you could say the junk current or any type of toxins, it kind of helps it help clear away then I'm a big fan of a arguably obviously a you know some stuff like this like, like a Joovv Red light | https://joovv.com/ 14 mile by mile by violation

Anthony Kjenstad :

So those are the drafter send me some links to this stuff in a follow up email and I can have the community looking and I love looking at this stuff.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

We'll do let's see. Then I'm always hacking hacking stuff with food like ketones, ketone aides Like this is a viral like keto keto ID. So that's, that's so many stuff that I'm always constantly trying and trying to see for how I could hack it.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Have you heard of a product called flykitt? It's a combination ofyou basically say, Hey, I'm leaving this. I'm leaving Los Angeles and I'm going to LA arrive in Europe on an on this flight. It's gonna take me this long. This is when I naturally wake up. This is when I naturally sleep. You put it into an algorithm or in an app and they basically will send you a kid and it's a combination of oral supplementation, light blocking, timed eating, timed rest, and basically it's supposed to keep your body on its circadian rhythm so that you don't get jetlag. It was initially trialed in the military with pilots who are hitting all these timezones and they're just going to market I'll link you up with the Founder I actually tried the technology twice on flights back to Europe in the last 12 months and the second time I went I followed it, you know, by the book to the point and I literally did not have jetlag is a combination of, you know, correct eating, blight, blocking and just really keeping your body on the same circadian rhythm. How do you dealing with pro athletes, knowing that a lot of these technologies, even the Firefly, they have enough research to make themselves dangerous, but they were usually developed in another space, right? How do you evaluate what's safe to put on your athletes? what and how do you get through the bullshit versus the This seems right? And although it doesn't have, you know, a level one study on it makes sense. And we're going to we're going to give it a go.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

And the great question, I think where it starts is it starts with me. You know, how does it make me feel?How is my Oura ring? How is my my CGM continuous glucose monitor? How is that changing? How is my blood work? How is my stool? So it's all about me. Then I try it. I try with family try my wife before I give it to the player. So I really have a good understanding I have a good buy in personally. So when I have a good buy in, it's so much easier to do give it to somebody sell it to somebody I know it is proof, you know, just just like all the stuff that I showed you I go through with it.

Anthony Kjenstad :

So, you know, obviously the elite athletes like the NBA players have guys like you and a team around them. What would be your two or three hacks to the weekend warrior, ultra runner. I've even spoke to a lot of Olympic athletes who don't really have a team around them. What would be like some of your obviously, it's your four pillars, right? I mean, and I think what I've figured out in this whole recovery world is sleep and nutrition. You said it, you said it very well. You know sleeps a free throw, right? You should that should be the number one priority. But But outside of sleep and nutrition, what are some things that a youth athlete or a parent of a youth athlete can implement in your mind that are a technology based or not even technology based just, you know, two or three things that are just again, free throws in your mind outside of sleep and nutrition?

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Great question. Tough question. So pillars are the four legs of the table. Okay. those are those are going to give us 99% Ah, if you dial in on sleep if you dial in on nutrition, quality of ingredients as a parent like people last year was was was why don't you like breakfast I said because America said American breakfast is more toxic and breaking down people more than helping and causing the inflammatory athlete, you know? So nutrition, mindfulness and correct movement. If you have those four pillars, you have a strong table we have a strong foundation we could stand up on it. Then the next thing is next up is one percenters you know we could we could talk about supplementing we could talk about creatine to going out there and getting protein powder if you're looking at protein powder some of them got even the best his best brands got arsenic Got destrose got sucralose you know those are not real ingredients is actually costing us not helping you like you're giving it to your kid that that that kid might not get deep sleep. Then you learn the kid watch TV all night long and now they can't get recovery sleep. So I think as a parent, like help the kid dial into those Four Pillars help the kid go outside, take the shoes off, get grounded. You know that then negative ions will do so much mentally and physically for their body than anything else. So, Anthony, people want to pay and get something they want something in their hand, a pill a supplement or tool. But the free throw is the sleep, nutrition, mindfulness corrective exercise, you're going to eat anyway, you're going to go to the grocery store anyway. Instead of getting a bag of chips, can we get maybe an apple? You know, instead of getting an apple can we pay a couple of cents more and get organic apple? So we have choices in our school, those odds I wish I could tell you a tool or something but the free throw is do the the four thing that's so free to you connect with the universe, the earth and let's get healing out of that. Not only good for your mind, but good for your feet. One of the best ways to get your feet mobile. No, no, no

Anthony Kjenstad :

Good Points. Um, so lastly, you know let's talk about your podcast why why nine minutes?

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Great question. So nine minutes is a number nine resonates a humanitarianism, paying it forward, good karma and setting proper example. So that's number nine. So a big fan of number nine. Then you got number nine to talk. And I got number nine to listen to. So we came up with that just enough, just a golden nugget from the most amazing people that I come across Anthony, just in his podcast was a former cabinet member, and Ronald Reagan. Amazing gold nuggets. And so I think you know, all of us have nine minutes to listen to. So what I want to help people is that they could listen to and put those into their life if they could get into and dial in the four pillars themself, you know, if somebody's given us the advice if we are not dialing in mentally, physically, emotionally, we cannot get those pillars, you know. So with the podcast, I'm going to try to make a bit build a community around do like a membership and that's my that's my passion to help people to be their best self Actually, I'm gonna call the membership. be your best self like how can we be the best version of ourselves and let's do it effortlessly. Let's do it as a free throw.

Anthony Kjenstad :

No, I love that. I love that so so I can find you on Apple podcasts under is it nine minutes with Navin?

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Yeah, it's nine minutes with Navin. nine to to five is Naveen. You also spoke about Instagram.

Anthony Kjenstad :

So how can they find you? How can the community find you? outside of the podcast on Instagram and where else

Navin Hettiarchchi :

On Instagram on @navin.het that mean heath, energy and transformation. Have on LinkedIn my whole name Navin Hettiarchchi , then I'm a big fan of Twitter. I'm speaking about your son You know, this lot of good people putting out great content, you know, great free content. So I try to be one of those people that you know put out stuff that what I'm trying out how I could help people so Twitter, Instagram, I'm always trying to share my knowledge and help people.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Awesome. Well, hey, we went over the nine minutes I apologize. We're at 33 but I so appreciate your time. great meeting you. And good luck out there in the bubble.

Navin Hettiarchchi :

Thank you so much, Anthony. Big fan of your product. I think it's it's a must. Like we talked about everyone could wear it everyone should we already just super simple we're talking about a free though. This is a free throw recover recovery unit so definitely everyone who's listening give it a shot for Firefly out like Telling you like, I wouldn't say, I'm a big fan if I didn't try it and see the results myself. And if I didn't try it with my players, I would never recommend it. So highly recommend the Firefly.

Anthony Kjenstad :

Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Unknown Speaker :

Well, podcasting 8 in the books, I hope you enjoyed it. I put the links to the different technologies Navin was speaking to as he was rumbling around his room in the notes. So check those out, as well as the links to his content on the business side, hoping you could take a few minutes to subscribe to the podcast and give me some reviews during so I can get the feedback. You can do that wherever you listen to your podcast. It's been an amazing journey so far and I hope you're enjoying these as much as I am. And looking forward to episode nine. Have a good day.