Namely 90s

#244 - Michelle Trachtenberg | In Memoriam

Namely 90s Season 4 Episode 244

What a gut punch this last week has been. The world lost Michelle Trachtenberg and the boys do their best to remember her properly… and then take a Buffy Buzzfeed Quiz.

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Pixelland by Kevin MacLeod
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Transcript

00:00:00 Brandon

You seem peppy and I feel like I'm dying.

00:00:03 Andrew

I think I'm I want to have like a triple shot of espresso at like 6:00.

00:00:10 Brandon

That's a good.

00:00:11 Brandon

Like the last two or three times we've recorded, I've come from having a Gibraltar at trivia.

00:00:19 Brandon

Been like wired now I'm like.

00:00:23 Andrew

Yeah, Gavin, it makes.

00:00:23 Andrew

Gulf Shores.

00:00:25 Andrew

Except for the straight part hail.

00:00:27 Brandon

Hello.

00:00:29 Andrew

Are you intending to be on blur or do?

00:00:31 Andrew

Care. Does it matter?

00:00:32 Brandon

OK. Do you need me to unplug my background switch?

00:00:34 Andrew

I don't care.

00:00:36 Andrew

I need to see the mess that is Europe.

00:00:38 Andrew

It's not that bad.

00:00:39 Narrator

Welcome.

00:00:41 Narrator

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00:00:42 Andrew

What?

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00:00:45 Brandon

Take kids.

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Listen in to the conversation about how the decade defined those who spent their childhood there and how it shaped them as adults.

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I.

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00:01:22 Andrew

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00:01:27 Brandon

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00:01:49 Brandon

Before it's too late.

00:01:54 Brandon

I'm just checking make sure that our Patreon is actually up.

00:01:57 Andrew

Huh.

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Yeah. So then after that, we'll be doing some form of some project at some point in time.

00:02:03 Brandon

May I call you your phone?

00:02:04 Andrew

So stay tuned.

00:02:07 Andrew

Tuned.

00:02:08 Andrew

I'm gonna be doing a series of tutorials on how to apply eyeliner in the political arena as.

00:02:15 Andrew

As with JD Vance, a new spokesperson for Maybelline.

00:02:21 Andrew

Sorry.

00:02:23 Andrew

I'm just riffing. JD Vance is an A hole.

00:02:29 Brandon

Patriots not up anymore.

00:02:31 Andrew

My favorite thing about JD Vance is like how many times he's been recorded talking about how much of A POS he thinks Donald Trump is.

00:02:38 Brandon

Mm.

00:02:40 Andrew

Turns out he's the POS moving on.

00:02:45 Andrew

Uh.

00:02:46 Andrew

What's new with you?

00:02:50 Brandon

Not.

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Just discovering that I.

00:02:56 Brandon

Patreon doesn't seem to.

00:03:00 Brandon

We unpublished your page due to inactivity, OK.

00:03:03 Andrew

Thanks everyone.

00:03:05 Andrew

Well, Brandon.

00:03:06 Andrew

The tuberculosis or the consumption if you will.

00:03:10 Andrew

Is it you're 1 of?

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Mm.

00:03:11 Andrew

Wait, what state is that happening in all the Republican states?

00:03:14 Brandon

Death.

00:03:17 Brandon

Yeah.

00:03:19 Brandon

Some kids, measles came by and gave me chlamydia.

00:03:23 Andrew

I still have the hantavirus like Gene Hackman's wife.

00:03:26 Brandon

Yes, apparently she had it and he had Alzheimer's and.

00:03:27 Andrew

What?

00:03:32 Brandon

They just died.

00:03:34 Andrew

Trantavirus Jesus.

00:03:36 Andrew

Mm.

00:03:39 Andrew

Yeah. So that happened. What else?

00:03:41 Brandon

Alright, our Patreon is back online.

00:03:41 Andrew

What else?

00:03:43 Andrew

Hey, sign up for one of our support levels.

00:03:47 Brandon

Means.

00:03:49 Andrew

Is Patreon a?

00:03:50 Andrew

A thing?

00:03:51 Andrew

Well for you podcast.

00:03:51 Andrew

I mean, yeah.

00:03:55 Andrew

I would subscribe to something for a.

00:03:57 Andrew

I sent it for a Patreon once, so I have an exclusive guide on how to start a certain type of aircraft in Microsoft Flight Simulator.

00:04:02 Andrew

Yes.

00:04:04 Brandon

Interesting.

00:04:08 Andrew

It.

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Was a cold and dark start up tutorial which is like the inside of my heart.

00:04:14 Andrew

Let's.

00:04:15 Andrew

So you have the tuberculosis.

00:04:18 Brandon

It does feel like I I do have consumption so.

00:04:21 Andrew

You have every single 1920s disease.

00:04:23 Andrew

Quote Jeremy Clarkson.

00:04:27 Brandon

Like we are, we are at trivia last night and they have the door open and it's like I can feel both the cold in my lungs, the smoke in my throat from like the BBQ outside and the smoke from the cigarette smoke goes outside.

00:04:41 Andrew

You sound.

00:04:42 Andrew

You have bronchitis secondary to whatever viral illness you.

00:04:46 Andrew

Had or have.

00:04:47 Brandon

Yes, most likely.

00:04:48 Brandon

I'm dining with bronchitis.

00:04:51 Brandon

Umm.

00:04:52 Andrew

Oh, that's not funny.

00:04:55 Andrew

Let's see what else. What?

00:04:56 Andrew

Oh, American foreign policy has been turned on its head. That's fun.

00:05:00 Brandon

But we walked it back.

00:05:01 Brandon

Day 2.

00:05:02 Andrew

He walked it back and then we walked it forward.

00:05:05 Andrew

Like we're doing a little line dance.

00:05:05 Brandon

Never gonna lose it as you.

00:05:07 Brandon

Out every food.

00:05:08 Brandon

Take it to junk.

00:05:11 Andrew

Yeah. So that that's the thing that happened.

00:05:13 Andrew

Mm H.

00:05:13 Andrew

We'll see where that goes.

00:05:17 Andrew

The world is.

00:05:17 Brandon

The attack and died.

00:05:18 Andrew

Gene Hackman died after the Max.

00:05:21 Brandon

As well as his wife.

00:05:23 Brandon

Betsy Arakawa.

00:05:26 Andrew

Gene hackman. He was in movies.

00:05:28 Brandon

The French Connection.

00:05:30 Andrew

Enemy of the state.

00:05:32 Brandon

Superman, the four, the quest for peace.

00:05:35 Andrew

Superman.

00:05:37 Andrew

The wiki feet years.

00:05:39 Brandon

Superman 'cause he.

00:05:41 Brandon

Lex luthor. He played the original movie version of Lex Luther.

00:05:43 Andrew

Oh, wicked. Wicked.

00:05:47 Brandon

French Connection. This is the.

00:05:50 Andrew

Yeah, let's see what else.

00:05:52 Brandon

Oh man, he was in Bonnie and Clyde, features beside the venture.

00:05:55 Andrew

OK, Hoosiers.

00:05:59 Andrew

That one.

00:06:00 Brandon

The original Picido Venture enemy estate with Will Smith or.

00:06:03 Andrew

Yeah, I mean, the state that movie slaps.

00:06:06 Brandon

Get Shorty.

00:06:08 Brandon

Wow, really?

00:06:08 Andrew

Oh, Speaking of slaps, did you listen to the did you watch the Oscars?

00:06:12 Brandon

Hmm.

00:06:14 Andrew

Yeah, they happened.

00:06:15 Andrew

I guess Conan was pretty good.

00:06:16 Brandon

4 tandemons moon.

00:06:18 Andrew

Conan O'Brien AK Jimmy Kimmel was pretty good.

00:06:22 Brandon

How dare you compare me to Jerry? Come on.

00:06:23 Andrew

He.

00:06:23 Andrew

Made.

00:06:25 Andrew

He well, he made that joke. He said something about like if they didn't.

00:06:29 Andrew

It.

00:06:29 Andrew

Make sure that everyone knows his name is Jimmy Kimmel.

00:06:29 Brandon

Goodnight shinko.

00:06:31 Brandon

That time.

00:06:33 Andrew

He made a joke about.

00:06:36 Andrew

Oh boy.

00:06:36 Andrew

Forgot his name already. Kendrick Lamar calling.

00:06:39 Andrew

Hmm.

00:06:40 Andrew

Drake a pedophile.

00:06:41 Andrew

Mm.

00:06:42 Andrew

And then people are like, that's racially motivated 'cause. You didn't make a joke about white pedophiles first of.

00:06:47 Andrew

Like, is that the standard we're holding ourselves to you? Second of all, he's like, remember that pedophile joke I made about the movie conclave and the Catholic Church?

00:06:56 Andrew

Yeah, thanks, Conan.

00:06:58 Andrew

Anyway, I don't have any pedophile jokes on the Oscars, frankly, but.

00:06:59 Andrew

3.

00:07:02 Brandon

Hail in the birdcage.

00:07:04 Brandon

Pac-Man.

00:07:05 Andrew

Oh, I had that, that Eugene Levy and.

00:07:07 Brandon

Darren Williams.

00:07:11 Andrew

The other one.

00:07:12 Brandon

Eugene Love using that Nathan Lane.

00:07:14 Brandon

Williams.

00:07:15 Andrew

I'm thinking of a different movie.

00:07:17 Brandon

The birdcage, where it's like.

00:07:19 Andrew

I'm thinking of a different movie.

00:07:21 Andrew

Movie. Am I thinking of?

00:07:24 Brandon

A mighty wind.

00:07:25 Andrew

Aren't you best in?

00:07:26 Andrew

Why am I getting those two conflated?

00:07:26 Brandon

Thus in shell.

00:07:28 Andrew

Don't know why.

00:07:29 Brandon

The bird cage is about a drag, a gay drag club owner.

00:07:36 Andrew

OK.

00:07:37 Brandon

Yeah, played by either Elaine or Robin Williams or.

00:07:40 Andrew

Oh, did you know so?

00:07:40 Brandon

Gay couple.

00:07:43 Andrew

I.

00:07:43 Andrew

Saw OK.

00:07:44 Andrew

I'm gonna look this up to make sure I'm not gonna Fact Check myself.

00:07:48 Brandon

His sons getting married to Gene Hackman and Diane West Weiss.

00:07:55 Brandon

Daughter and they're like Ultra Conservative Republicans, and then they're gay couple.

00:07:59 Brandon

So those are in laws.

00:08:02 Andrew

I was gonna say apparently they they're trying to cancel a bunch of pictures from U.S. history, and they're taking away a picture of the Enola Gay because it.

00:08:09 Andrew

The word gay on it.

00:08:12 Andrew

But they're like trying to eliminate pictures of people of color in the military. And like all the stuff in the National Archives.

00:08:12 Andrew

That's.

00:08:18 Brandon

That's not.

00:08:20 Andrew

Is going on out there.

00:08:22 Brandon

Is the coach in our replacements and 2000 replacements with Keanu Reeves.

00:08:30 Andrew

This.

00:08:31 Andrew

It's good times.

00:08:32 Brandon

He was the bad guy in ants.

00:08:35 Andrew

The bad guy in ants, the bad guy for a good movie.

00:08:39 Brandon

Or general general.

00:08:41 Brandon

I don't know if he was a good guy or bad guy.

00:08:43 Andrew

The.

00:08:44 Andrew

As in your lower jaw.

00:08:46 Brandon

Yeah, because they're.

00:08:47 Brandon

Because they have the animals.

00:08:48 Andrew

Oh, this is this intro is all over the place. Just so you know.

00:08:52 Brandon

Well, so you can go in directions and I keep toughing it back to Gen. action.

00:08:57 Andrew

Gene Hackman, the person who is in a lot, but I I don't.

00:09:01 Andrew

Haven't really watched any of his stuff.

00:09:03 Brandon

I recommend 2000s of the replacements.

00:09:06 Brandon

It's a comedy.

00:09:07 Brandon

It's a comedy football movie.

00:09:09 Brandon

Keanu Reeves there are like replacements for the team, but football team after.

00:09:17 Brandon

The NFL goes on strike.

00:09:17 Andrew

I watched the jail version of that with.

00:09:22 Andrew

Yes.

00:09:22 Andrew

David spade.

00:09:26 Brandon

Did you get fired in jail at one point or later?

00:09:28 Brandon

Is in it from.

00:09:31 Brandon

Evolution.

00:09:32 Andrew

I'm referring to the no.

00:09:34 Andrew

Adam.

00:09:35 Andrew

Sorry, the 2005 longest yard.

00:09:36 Brandon

Adam Sandler was the black man, you know version.

00:09:39 Andrew

No, wait. A what?

00:09:41 Brandon

Evolution. He's in the replacements.

00:09:43 Andrew

No, that's Orlando Jones.

00:09:46 Andrew

I'm talking about the longest yard.

00:09:48 Brandon

John favors in it.

00:09:53 Brandon

The longest yard wasn't a comedy, was it?

00:09:55 Andrew

That is Chris Rock, James Cromwell, Nellie, William Fichtner, David Patrick Kelly, Tracy Morgan, Cloris Leachman and Burt Reynolds.

00:09:59 Brandon

What?

00:10:04 Brandon

Turn Ferguson fire in.

00:10:05 Andrew

It's actually a fun movie.

00:10:07 Andrew

A fun movie.

00:10:08 Andrew

Adam Sandler as well. Not doing the voice.

00:10:11 Andrew

Not doing the voice.

00:10:15 Andrew

Shibboy doobity.

00:10:17 Andrew

Chalamet.

00:10:21 Brandon

Don't say it three times. In some of them.

00:10:25 Brandon

Hazon love, isn't it?

00:10:31 Brandon

Reese evens anyway.

00:10:36 Andrew

Yeah, Speaking of dead people.

00:10:40 Andrew

Speaking of dead people, yeah, so.

00:10:45 Andrew

It's just going on and on as we get older, more and more people are passing away and it's usually not surprising when they're a little bit older, but when they're a bit younger, it can be shocking and tragic, even more so.

00:10:55 Brandon

Do you?

00:11:00 Andrew

And so we'd like to say, I don't know. Sorry that was.

00:11:02 Andrew

Thought you were.

00:11:03 Andrew

To pick that up. So we'd like to say.

00:11:03 Brandon

I was going to, but that would be fun.

00:11:05 Brandon

Know.

00:11:05 Brandon

You just go.

00:11:06 Andrew

RIP to the Max to Michelle Trachtenberg, who was.

00:11:09 Brandon

Rachel Max.

00:11:12 Andrew

You know, part of my childhood in the form of being in the.

00:11:15 Andrew

Buffy the Vampire Slayer where she received a lot of hate for being the most annoying character.

00:11:17 Andrew

No.

00:11:21 Andrew

She wins, yeah.

00:11:21 Andrew

That's testament to her acting skill.

00:11:25 Brandon

And during that 'cause she was done, slashed the key in season 5 of Buffy, which I think was 2001.

00:11:28 Andrew

Stop listening.

00:11:36 Andrew

I don't know that, but it's like, you know, someone's a good actor when you can't stand them in a show, like, for example, we may have talked about this for Ed Helms in the office.

00:11:36 Brandon

Anyway.

00:11:42 Andrew

Mm.

00:11:45 Brandon

Yes.

00:11:45 Andrew

Exceptional actor cannot stand his character.

00:11:49 Andrew

I.

00:11:50 Brandon

Fair, fair point.

00:11:53 Brandon

Let's see.

00:11:54 Brandon

Yes, 2.

00:11:55 Brandon

She started in 2000 season 5 through 7.

00:11:58 Andrew

Five through 72000, OK.

00:12:00 Brandon

So but one of her first roles was on Clarissa explains. Actually, her first documentary television role was on law and order.

00:12:13 Brandon

For the episode, God bless the child, uncredited, but she was.

00:12:16 Brandon

Clarissa explains it all in 1983 for the episode of Babysitting, where Melissa Joan Hart's Clarissa has to is babysitting this bratty girl.

00:12:19 Andrew

OK.

00:12:28 Andrew

Scott typecast there.

00:12:28 Brandon

But yeah, well, she can't type cast as a know it all bratty. Girl, which got her the role of Nona Nona F Mecklenburg on the adventures of Peter.

00:12:41 Andrew

Michael just.

00:12:44 Brandon

Yeah, Pete and Pete.

00:12:48 Brandon

Her dad was played by Iggy Pop.

00:12:52 Brandon

But yeah, so she she was alongside studios.

00:12:55 Andrew

Yeah, we've watched a here at the name of 90S headquarters and she was in that.

00:12:59 Andrew

We did.

00:12:59 Brandon

We did.

00:13:01 Andrew

But she wanted us.

00:13:01 Andrew

There you go. There's a tie in.

00:13:04 Brandon

Oh yeah, apparently she was herself on an episode of Blues Clues and reading Rainbow, and guys like us.

00:13:12 Brandon

This must have been for when she was hearing the spy, 1986, OH, 1989. She was in the live action Spectre gadget with.

00:13:20 Brandon

This Matthew Broderick, which we I think we went over before.

00:13:26 Andrew

Agree by the way, erasing all all references to reading Rainbow 'cause, it contains the word rainbow is a black man on it.

00:13:33 Andrew

No, I'm like yes.

00:13:35 Andrew

It was on public television.

00:13:38 Brandon

Two out of four she tried to.

00:13:42 Brandon

Break out into the film industry with ER, shrimp.

00:13:46 Brandon

I mean, she was Harry the spy, but like, this is the reinvention she was like, I remember.

00:13:48 Andrew

AM.

00:13:54 Brandon

Like this era of Hollywood is a little gross because it's, like, barely legal teenage girls being sexualized. And it's like the that's.

00:14:03 Andrew

Because that's who's running Hollywood back.

00:14:05 Andrew

Now they're more interested in like eating infants or something.

00:14:11 Brandon

But I remember the trailer. It like she they're at a nude beach and she's like, oh, I'm gonna take my top off and go running.

00:14:18 Brandon

Then they like show her from the backside, taking a top off and running. It's like.

00:14:24 Brandon

Well, that's why that's the only reason anyone watched.

00:14:25 Andrew

Yep.

00:14:27 Brandon

Movie euro trip.

00:14:29 Andrew

Yeah, yeah.

00:14:30 Brandon

Which has. I'm going to assume a rotten tomato score of.

00:14:38 Brandon

45.

00:14:38 Brandon

Of 100 no 47%.

00:14:39 Andrew

And never.

00:14:40 Andrew

And never was actually a review of hocus Pocus 2.

00:14:43 Andrew

Yes, umm.

00:14:46 Andrew

Where she appears topless. No, I'm kidding.

00:14:49 Brandon

Oh, apparently it was a sequel to Road Trip. What?

00:14:54 Andrew

Do not know that it makes sense though.

00:14:57 Andrew

Then they had.

00:14:57 Andrew

A Middle East trip after that.

00:15:00 Andrew

No.

00:15:01 Andrew

Let's see those 2004.

00:15:03 Brandon

Yeah.

00:15:05 Andrew

Who could forget?

00:15:06 Brandon

2005.

00:15:07 Andrew

No, I have a 2006.

00:15:10 Brandon

OK, 2005's ice Princess? I never saw this movie, but a lot of girls are aging a little bit younger. Have been like, Oh my God, they're so attracted to.

00:15:19 Brandon

Was my ice Princess with.

00:15:22 Brandon

I can control and hidden Pantieri and Joan Cusack.

00:15:27 Brandon

2006 black Christmas.

00:15:28 Andrew

And who could forget that 2006 episode of House MD, where she appeared as a teenage girl who had her heart transplanted 6 months earlier and goes into anaphylactic shock in her clean room after her boyfriend almost kisses her?

00:15:32 Andrew

Past.

00:15:47 Brandon

Melinda barbach.

00:15:49 Andrew

She plays the like over protected child who's trying to rebel against her mom.

00:15:54 Andrew

Of thing.

00:15:56 Brandon

In the episode safe.

00:15:58 Andrew

Show me episodes safe. Yep.

00:15:58 Andrew

Interesting.

00:16:00 Brandon

2006 she also made an appearance on law and order criminal intent as a completely different character from her previous law and order show.

00:16:09 Andrew

Warren Wyderer criminal.

00:16:11 Brandon

Also 2006.

00:16:14 Brandon

If anyone watched Robo early robot chicken with a gummy bear scene where it's a gummy bear hopping through the woods and it's like, oh, I'm so happy 'cause, I'm a gummy bear.

00:16:22 Brandon

Bear and accidentally steps on a bear trap and then just loves how this shrill St.

00:16:30 Brandon

That was her as well as other various voices.

00:16:34 Andrew

I mean, you know, there's no.

00:16:36 Andrew

No shame.

00:16:36 Andrew

Being a character actor, right?

00:16:39 Brandon

Right, I got her roles on Gossip Girl as Georgina Sparks for 28 episodes, as well as the reboot she came back for a few episodes.

00:16:48 Brandon

A main role on ATV series called Mercy.

00:16:51 Brandon

Was in weeds for five episodes.

00:16:53 Andrew

Mercy.

00:16:55 Andrew

She also began, probably due to her illness. I shouldn't not try to be mean, but she did begin to resemble Elizabeth Olsen, and she got older, in my opinion.

00:17:05 Andrew

Elizabeth Olsen Elizabeth Smart. No, it's wrong person.

00:17:08 Brandon

You're thinking of the of the Olsen twins, not Elizabeth Olsen, cause Olsen's also has a fuller face.

00:17:13 Andrew

No, a little bit.

00:17:16 Andrew

Yeah. I mean a little bit.

00:17:17 Brandon

You you're you're thinking of like Mary Kate and Ashley during the sheep fashion years.

00:17:18

I I.

00:17:22 Andrew

She looks like an Olsen somehow.

00:17:24 Andrew

Little bit.

00:17:24 Andrew

Well, she looks.

00:17:25 Brandon

I think she looks like.

00:17:26 Brandon

She specifically looks like Mary Kate.

00:17:29 Brandon

Like when she was, they were real thin.

00:17:33 Andrew

OK.

00:17:33 Brandon

And that's most likely the health related.

00:17:36 Andrew

Yeah, that's the health related thing for the others.

00:17:38 Andrew

Was like the cocaine years, but.

00:17:39 Andrew

Her it was a health crisis of some kind.

00:17:41 Brandon

Allegedly.

00:17:44 Andrew

Allegedly, everything we say on this show is allegedly, but you can be president and say anything you want without the word allegedly in front of it.

00:17:44 Andrew

Yeah. Yes.

00:17:50 Brandon

This album.

00:17:53 Brandon

Well, apparently there was a 2023 Harriet the spy on Apple TV, Plus a series.

00:17:58 Andrew

Yeah.

00:17:59 Brandon

She's a voice in it.

00:18:03

Alright.

00:18:03 Brandon

Yeah. And then I just saw as I was collecting.

00:18:09 Brandon

Some memorials for her that.

00:18:13 Brandon

She wrote a script that was rejected by Hollywood, but her current or her boyfriend.

00:18:22 Brandon

I guess current boyfriend, boyfriend at the time of death and producer friends are trying to get it.

00:18:31 Brandon

Made into a movie 'cause. It's well, well written.

00:18:32 Andrew

Also, she she was by the left speaking the Oscars left out of the Oscars in memoriam package. But.

00:18:38 Brandon

I heard that.

00:18:39 Brandon

That this had.

00:18:40 Brandon

Yeah, like I think it's year, year end, right.

00:18:44 Andrew

I believe that's probably true.

00:18:47 Brandon

So hopefully they correct that next year and she's in that one, along with Gene Hackman.

00:18:52 Brandon

Was Gene Hackman in this one is the question.

00:18:57 Andrew

I don't know. I don't think so.

00:18:58 Brandon

I didn't watch it so.

00:19:01 Andrew

I didn't watch them.

00:19:02 Andrew

I just watched part of it.

00:19:03 Andrew

Yeah.

00:19:04 Brandon

So let's see.

00:19:09 Brandon

Some Danny Tamborelli, who played younger Pete on the adventures of Pete and Pete, shared a photo of him and Michelle trapped bird together and said.

00:19:20 Brandon

You're called growing up alongside her and making people laugh together and.

00:19:25 Brandon

More importantly, we learned to make each other laugh and pull pranks on everyone.

00:19:28 Brandon

We're doing improv, and it was still called playing for 10 to get laughs.

00:19:33 Brandon

She was a bright light, a firecracker and caring person who spent a lot of time and effort advocating for people who needed a louder voice.

00:19:40 Brandon

Was someone to look up to in this business and to the general world at large.

00:19:44 Brandon

She'll be missed. All my love and sympathy and compassion to Lana, Irene and the rest of her family and friends.

00:19:49 Brandon

You know, like just all the outpouring for her.

00:19:53 Brandon

It really makes her seem like she was like a down to Earth.

00:19:58 Brandon

Person.

00:19:58 Andrew

Yeah, remind.

00:20:01 Brandon

Rosie O'Donnell.

00:20:05 Brandon

Who? Some?

00:20:09 Brandon

Starred alongside her in her spy.

00:20:14 Brandon

Where did the fair go?

00:20:15 Andrew

She she instead of doing like a 21 gun salute, there was a 21 Kush slingshot salute at the OK.

00:20:21 Brandon

Yes.

00:20:24 Brandon

Because Roger Donald does his thing on her talk show, she would do the Kushal slingshot. For those of you who don't know, it's funny. If I explained you were jokes.

00:20:35 Andrew

I see.

00:20:37 Brandon

But yes.

00:20:40 Brandon

She she said she found it heartbreaking.

00:20:43 Brandon

Love it very.

00:20:44 Brandon

She struggled last for years and she could have helped.

00:20:47 Brandon

I thought there was a better quote there.

00:20:51 Brandon

What else?

00:20:53 Brandon

Buffy costars Sir Michelle gillery.

00:20:56 Andrew

We're.

00:20:58 Andrew

No, I'm.

00:20:59 Andrew

It's like, of course, they're all gonna be.

00:21:01 Andrew

Hopefully supportive and.

00:21:03 Brandon

I did.

00:21:04 Brandon

I did see uh Sarah Michelle Gellar's um in some mental health crisis right now because of of her passing, which?

00:21:14 Andrew

Hmm.

00:21:17 Brandon

Probably not a great sign for the Buffy reboot that they were just called out two weeks ago. Not.

00:21:22 Andrew

No, no, no, no.

00:21:24 Andrew

That's getting the Republicans put mental health in such a priority in this country, so that'll be nice at least.

00:21:27 Andrew

Let's.

00:21:30 Brandon

See service shop going around.

00:21:32 Brandon

Michelle, listen to me.

00:21:34 Brandon

I love.

00:21:35 Brandon

I will always love you.

00:21:37 Brandon

The hardest thing in this world is to live in it.

00:21:39 Brandon

I will be.

00:21:39 Brandon

I will live for you.

00:21:41 Brandon

And then she also added three broken hearts and a key emoji.

00:21:47 Brandon

James marsters.

00:21:50 Brandon

Said my heart.

00:21:50 Brandon

Heavy today that he's played spike.

00:21:52 Brandon

We have a.

00:21:53 Brandon

We have lost a beautiful soul.

00:21:55 Brandon

Michelle was fiercely intelligent, howlingly funny and a very talented person.

00:21:59 Brandon

She died much too young and leaves behind the scores of people who.

00:22:03 Brandon

And loved her.

00:22:05 Brandon

David Roy Ennis.

00:22:07 Brandon

So very sad, horrible news. RIP and prayers to her family.

00:22:13 Brandon

Yeah. Allison Hannigan, I am deeply saddened by the news of Michelle's passing. She brought a loving energy to the set of Buffy. My thoughts are with Michelle's family and friends.

00:22:26 Brandon

And yeah, Amber Benson, who played Terra in the Caulfield. Claire Cramer.

00:22:33 Brandon

J August Richards, who never actually acted with her but was gotten on Angel.

00:22:40 Brandon

Let's see, Ange.

00:22:43 Andrew

Too soon?

00:22:44 Andrew

Too soon?

00:22:45 Brandon

Every roast Hamlin, Chris McArthur.

00:22:50 Andrew

Well, that's a funny. Weird what?

00:22:54 Andrew

I guess that's a funny weird connection.

00:22:56 Andrew

What's that?

00:22:56 Andrew

It says Amber Tamlin was in house for the later years, then act together. But.

00:23:02 Brandon

Yeah.

00:23:04 Andrew

Hmm.

00:23:04 Brandon

So Amber Tamblyn was.

00:23:08 Brandon

I think a contemporary of Michelle.

00:23:12 Brandon

They were, I think, the the Buffy.

00:23:12 Andrew

Robably true.

00:23:15 Brandon

They were like the same age and like she was like the bad influence girl on on dawn in Season 7.

00:23:25 Brandon

Yeah.

00:23:29 Brandon

So yeah.

00:23:32 Brandon

The anything else on the shelf there? Michelle trachtenberg.

00:23:35 Andrew

I mean, I I didn't know. I knew her best from Buffy, honestly.

00:23:41 Brandon

In that episode house.

00:23:42 Andrew

There's that one episode of house, but you know it's sad.

00:23:46 Andrew

I mean, sad when anyone dies, but especially when someone that no one has anything bad to say about and is entirely too young for that.

00:23:54 Andrew

We can, you know, all we can do is keep living.

00:23:58 Andrew

Right.

00:23:59 Brandon

As Sarah Michelle Gellar said, yeah.

00:24:03 Brandon

Yeah, you know Michelle Trachtenberg like.

00:24:07 Brandon

She.

00:24:08 Brandon

She was.

00:24:08 Brandon

She was like the kid that you wanna be friends with on the ventures. Pete and Pete like.

00:24:09 Andrew

Hey.

00:24:15 Brandon

Harriet the spy.

00:24:18 Andrew

Yeah.

00:24:20 Brandon

She seemed like she was cool, and apparently she was so.

00:24:27 Brandon

Nice.

00:24:27 Andrew

I already ripped the Max from the.

00:24:29 Andrew

90s crew.

00:24:30 Brandon

Yeah, pull one out.

00:24:33 Andrew

All.

00:24:33 Andrew

Well, now let's go to our mid episode break.

00:24:38 Andrew

And this time, I'm not going to say questionable things between this part.

00:24:38

YouTube.

00:24:42 Andrew

And the.

00:24:43 Andrew

Now back to the show part.

00:24:45 Brandon

Yes, it occurs to me that I didn't edit that out last week.

00:24:50 Brandon

All right.

00:24:51 Andrew

Anyway, and now back to the show.

00:24:55 Brandon

So instead of doing that whole thing half, half, half, half.

00:25:00 Brandon

As well, let's just do a BuzzFeed quiz.

00:25:02 Andrew

Yeah, I kind of brought the mood down there.

00:25:04 Andrew

Got to do it occasionally.

00:25:06 Brandon

Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think, I don't think we've gone through season 4 episode without doing a BuzzFeed quiz yet. So.

00:25:13 Andrew

But now it's our thing.

00:25:14 Andrew

Yes.

00:25:15 Andrew

What the last episode was just all BuzzFeed quizzes.

00:25:18 Brandon

Oh yeah, maybe not these Uptown BuzzFeed.

00:25:18 Andrew

That sounds terrible.

00:25:21 Andrew

What if we make a namely 90s BuzzFeed quiz and then go through it?

00:25:26 Brandon

Yes.

00:25:28 Brandon

That might actually be something that we can do.

00:25:31 Andrew

Anyway, so we're doing a BuzzFeed quiz called everyone has a Buffy the Vampire Slayer character that matches their personality.

00:25:39 Andrew

One is.

00:25:40 Andrew

By Evelina Zaragoza Medina.

00:25:43 Andrew

Posted in 2021.

00:25:45 Brandon

And if we have done this one in the past five years, let us know.

00:25:49 Andrew

We haven't.

00:25:50 Andrew

We.

00:25:50 Brandon

You sure we didn't?

00:25:51 Andrew

There's no way we might have.

00:25:52 Brandon

I swear we did one last year.

00:25:54 Brandon

Think we did.

00:25:55 Brandon

But like, are you more?

00:25:58 Brandon

Spike or Angel but.

00:25:59 Andrew

OK, OK.

00:26:01 Brandon

I don't remember.

00:26:03 Andrew

Well, here we.

00:26:03 Andrew

So do you want to start?

00:26:04 Brandon

Sure, it starts with a question of what type of.

00:26:08 Brandon

Are were you?

00:26:11 Brandon

A loader.

00:26:11 Brandon

A class clown? The athlete.

00:26:13 Brandon

Teacher's Pet, a theater kid or an overachiever?

00:26:17 Andrew

Boy, that was none of these things.

00:26:23 Andrew

Hmm.

00:26:24 Andrew

I can be excused being a teacher's pet.

00:26:27 Brandon

Yeah, I guess so.

00:26:31 Brandon

I guess I could be accused of being an overachiever, like I wasn't straight as, but I was in most of the AP classes and.

00:26:39 Andrew

But you will really be wrapped over the knuckles by a nun if you drop below A/B.

00:26:42 Andrew

Yeah, of course.

00:26:43 Andrew

You know that's overachieving.

00:26:44 Brandon

Yeah. You know, they take the hot poker out of the fire and give you a.

00:26:48 Brandon

Hello.

00:26:48 Andrew

Give a little branding. OK. Wow, that got dark quick. When are you most productive? Morning, afternoon or night?

00:26:57 Brandon

Truthfully, for me, I'm most productive at night.

00:27:00 Brandon

Have a night owl.

00:27:01 Andrew

I am a morning owl.

00:27:03 Andrew

Of.

00:27:04 Andrew

I'm in no time of day person to be clear.

00:27:08 Brandon

So gotcha.

00:27:09 Andrew

But I chose morning.

00:27:11 Brandon

Pick the best.

00:27:12 Brandon

To go on a date, a museum, the mall, a cemetery.

00:27:16 Andrew

A cementary footer.

00:27:18 Brandon

I.

00:27:18 Brandon

I swear we've done this before.

00:27:19 Andrew

A cementary, which is where you get concrete.

00:27:24 Brandon

I didn't even notice that a dance club, the movies or a restaurant.

00:27:29 Andrew

Ah, OK.

00:27:33 Andrew

Well, I'm a self identified fat person, so typically a restaurant.

00:27:36 Andrew

But I feel like when you're in school, like the movies is where is like, where you're trying to go.

00:27:42 Andrew

Gonna go with the movies and not the quarry. Where you're gonna get your cement.

00:27:47 Brandon

For the best place to go on a date.

00:27:52 Brandon

I mean, I like the restaurant, but the mall like it's like.

00:27:54 Andrew

Yeah, the mom.

00:27:56 Brandon

No.

00:27:57 Andrew

I just saw an ad by the way, while we're doing this for like a fancy feast thing, it looked like a flan and they had, like, jeans dripping down the top of it.

00:28:06 Andrew

Some.

00:28:07 Andrew

Pretty cat came in and ate it. That was weird.

00:28:10 Andrew

Anyway.

00:28:12 Brandon

Feel like you have targeted ads there.

00:28:13 Andrew

So what accessory would you never leave the house without my coat?

00:28:18 Andrew

A hair tie, a bag to carry all my stuff.

00:28:21 Andrew

My phone, a water bottle or a snack.

00:28:25 Brandon

It's a weird definitions of accessories.

00:28:30 Brandon

Oh sweet.

00:28:30 Andrew

So.

00:28:33 Brandon

So I technically.

00:28:37 Brandon

I guess I did not leave the house without my phone, but I think I I always have a bag.

00:28:43 Brandon

I have a bag.

00:28:45 Brandon

For whatever activity I'm doing, but to carry all my stuff.

00:28:48 Andrew

Right. Why don't do activities? And I feel weird without my phone, so I'll say my phone.

00:28:54 Brandon

Which of these would be the most helpful ally?

00:28:57 Brandon

Which of these would be the?

00:28:58 Brandon

Helpful ally of ampere.

00:29:01 Brandon

A werewolf or a zombie?

00:29:04 Andrew

I mean.

00:29:05 Andrew

Hands down, this vampire for me.

00:29:07 Andrew

I mean.

00:29:08 Andrew

Because they can appear as a normal person, at least at night.

00:29:11 Andrew

Yeah.

00:29:12 Andrew

And still have retain their.

00:29:14 Andrew

But not be obvious.

00:29:17 Brandon

And also like a werewolf is only a werewolf like.

00:29:21 Brandon

3-1 to three days out of the month.

00:29:24 Brandon

A zombie will most likely try to eat you.

00:29:28 Andrew

When you're going to.

00:29:29 Andrew

A ringer for your fast pitch.

00:29:31 Brandon

Great.

00:29:31 Andrew

This is a.

00:29:32 Andrew

Right.

00:29:34 Brandon

Because I also do vampire.

00:29:35 Andrew

Sure. Have you seen the baseball scene in Twilight?

00:29:39 Andrew

Yes.

00:29:40 Andrew

That's what I'm referring to.

00:29:41 Brandon

I I see three of the five twilight movies.

00:29:43 Andrew

Stupidest thing ever.

00:29:45 Andrew

Anyway, yes, you can choose the same thing.

00:29:48 Andrew

Which one of these?

00:29:50 Andrew

Which of these books are you most interesting in reading?

00:29:53 Andrew

It does say.

00:29:54 Andrew

Which of these books are you most interesting in reading?

00:29:58 Brandon

I'm so glad I didn't invite this one.

00:29:58 Andrew

Pride and prejudice, The Hobbit, 1984. The Wizard of Oz, Wuthering Heights or War and peace.

00:30:08 Brandon

So I did actually read the Wizard of Oz in 3rd grade.

00:30:12 Brandon

So that's off the list.

00:30:16 Brandon

You know, I I hear the Lord of the Rings books are are good.

00:30:21 Brandon

So I would be interested in reading.

00:30:25 Andrew

I've not read this and I feel like now is the time to read it.

00:30:28 Andrew

1984 little dystopian little little crazy anyway.

00:30:29 Brandon

Mm hmm.

00:30:33 Brandon

Which of these fictional weapons is the most useful force hammer? King Arthur's sword? Hermione Granger's wand? The one ring?

00:30:42 Brandon

Luke Skywalker's lightsaber or Wolverine's claws?

00:30:48 Andrew

I mean, it's it's probably Thor's hammer, but that implies that Thor is present or that other person who's somehow able to use his hammer for reasons unexplained to me.

00:31:01 Brandon

I mean, if you're worthy of the.

00:31:05 Andrew

We're.

00:31:05 Brandon

See one with his hammer.

00:31:05 Andrew

Getting some kind of a douche, but yeah, I'll go through this hammer.

00:31:09 Brandon

I mean, most useful lightsaber.

00:31:12 Andrew

OK, OK.

00:31:14 Andrew

Yeah, you can sliced vegetables with it.

00:31:18 Andrew

Do you usually make a good first impression?

00:31:20 Andrew

Yes, no or sometimes.

00:31:28 Brandon

We go sometimes.

00:31:30 Andrew

Yeah, I was.

00:31:30 Andrew

Going to talk to you about that actually.

00:31:34 Andrew

I would.

00:31:34 Andrew

With yes, I think I presented good first impression. Once he gets to know me, it's evident that I'm an awful person.

00:31:40 Andrew

I'm just kidding.

00:31:40 Andrew

Say yes.

00:31:41 Brandon

Alright, finally, pick one song to be your personal anthem. Toxic.

00:31:47 Brandon

By Britney Spears Blvd. Of broken dreams by Green Day, 15 by Tallul Swift pider by Hestina Hailey.

00:32:00 Brandon

Juiced by Lizzo?

00:32:02 Andrew

Would you like Lizzo?

00:32:04 Brandon

Or sweet child of mine by guns and roses.

00:32:10 Brandon

These are weird choices.

00:32:10 Andrew

But Rizzo's emphasis?

00:32:16 Andrew

Let's see.

00:32:17 Andrew

Green Day people are like now that Green Day was inducted into the.

00:32:20 Andrew

And.

00:32:20 Andrew

Hall of Fame. I feel like that's appropriate like.

00:32:23 Brandon

They were wrong.

00:32:24 Andrew

Rock'n'roll has.

00:32:26 Andrew

It's not just the Eagles now.

00:32:28 Brandon

Yeah, we, they, they induct other people into rock and roll Hall of Fame that aren't rock musicians.

00:32:35 Andrew

Yeah. Well, I never really admitted to liking Green Day.

00:32:37 Andrew

I did like that song in school back when we were in, like, high school.

00:32:40 Andrew

So yeah.

00:32:42 Brandon

It's very downer for an anthem, though.

00:32:48 Andrew

My heart would you choose?

00:32:49 Brandon

I guess I'll do sweet child of mine as if we were playing Grand Theft Auto San Andreas.

00:32:56 Brandon

Alright, no.

00:32:57 Brandon

I was walking into the jungle, but still.

00:32:59 Andrew

I come to the Django.

00:33:00 Brandon

Oh my good gosh.

00:33:04 Andrew

Well, you go first.

00:33:06 Brandon

Let's let's guess what we got based off of what.

00:33:08 Andrew

OK.

00:33:12 Andrew

Use.

00:33:14 Andrew

Xander for.

00:33:16 Brandon

Really.

00:33:19 Brandon

Uh, OK.

00:33:20 Brandon

You're wrong.

00:33:20 Andrew

And who do you think I was?

00:33:23 Brandon

Let's see you.

00:33:24 Brandon

The movies you said morning and you said teacher's.

00:33:30 Brandon

So I'm going to assume you got and you said Green Day, so you got.

00:33:38 Brandon

Ounces.

00:33:38 Andrew

Ted all.

00:33:40 Andrew

Right you go first.

00:33:41 Andrew

You get.

00:33:41 Brandon

OK, I got Giles.

00:33:43 Andrew

Giles, not J Giles but Giles J Giles fan.

00:33:46 Brandon

Yes, and I'm assuming it's because because of the sweet child of mine was my pick for the music.

00:33:52 Andrew

Thank you.

00:33:54 Brandon

You're extremely sensible and rational, which might make you feel like you're the only adult in the room.

00:33:59 Brandon

Yeah, but under that mild mannered.

00:34:02 Brandon

Is a really big.

00:34:03 Brandon

The people who get to know you are also lucky to hear your witty 1 liners.

00:34:06 Brandon

True of which you usually mutter under your breath.

00:34:10 Brandon

Also true.

00:34:12 Andrew

Well, I feel this is meant to be.

00:34:16 Andrew

I was selected to be dawn.

00:34:19 Brandon

No way.

00:34:20 Andrew

Yeah, you are literally the sweetest person in the world and have a smile and lights up a room.

00:34:20 Brandon

Awesome.

00:34:22 Brandon

Donnie.

00:34:25 Andrew

That's not to say you're not also strong incapable parenthesis.

00:34:30 Andrew

May even be a little stubborn close parenthesis.

00:34:33 Andrew

But you approach everything with an innate sense of kindness.

00:34:38 Brandon

Wow, how is?

00:34:39 Brandon

So spot on and yours that.

00:34:41 Andrew

I mean, I have elements of dawn.

00:34:44 Brandon

No, that's that's fair the.

00:34:47 Brandon

The gift that mines during it's Giles like looking up and it's raining.

00:34:51 Brandon

Like God, everything every day here is the same.

00:34:52 Andrew

Now this is.

00:34:55 Andrew

This is not a joke.

00:34:57 Andrew

Huh. Uh.

00:34:57 Andrew

Not trying to be mean.

00:34:59 Andrew

My gift wouldn't load.

00:35:04 Andrew

That is kind of depressing.

00:35:07 Brandon

Yeah, ripped the Max.

00:35:09 Brandon

Go to the next Donny.

00:35:11 Andrew

To the Max.

00:35:16 Andrew

Well.

00:35:19 Brandon

Let us know if you thought that was a adequate memorial for Michelle Trachtenberg.

00:35:24 Andrew

Yeah, I mean, we've gone downhill.

00:35:26 Andrew

Do.

00:35:27 Andrew

Plane crashes dead people like this is.

00:35:29 Andrew

Mm.

00:35:30 Andrew

This is rough.

00:35:31 Brandon

Season 4, baby.

00:35:34 Andrew

Yeah.

00:35:34 Brandon

As we slowly March towards the death of our podcast.

00:35:37 Andrew

Yeah, we're just doing in memoriam of the podcast at the last episode anyway. Yeah.

00:35:45 Brandon

Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, bummer. Michelle Tracer was 39.

00:35:51 Brandon

So we only have four more years.

00:35:56 Brandon

Dark too.

00:35:56 Andrew

Dark. Too dark.

00:35:57 Andrew

Four more years.

00:35:59 Andrew

Four more years.

00:36:02 Brandon

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00:36:06 Brandon

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00:36:08 Brandon

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00:36:14 Brandon

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00:36:17 Andrew

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00:36:21 Brandon

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00:36:24 Brandon

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00:36:34

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00:36:34 Brandon

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00:36:36 Brandon

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00:36:52 Andrew

To be my memorial next with all that weight loss, the 9 lbs.

00:36:56 Brandon

Die from tuberculosis. You're looking good.