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Today's Episode
Pluribus (S01E01-02)
Apple’s latest sci-fi series, Pluribus, from Vince Gilligan, picks up right where Breaking Bad. This time, instead of meth meth, humans are addicted to swapping saliva and rewriting our DNA. In true Twilight Zone spirit, the outbreak unfolds through the eyes of Carol Sturka (Rhea Seehorn), a fantasy author with rare immunity to the global hive-mind consciousness. On the pod, we unpack the best and worst moments, the realisticness of the scenario, the cameos, comparisons, theories, and of course, our rating.
Welcome to Today’s Episode!
Welcome to today's episode, the podcast where we discuss the most recent installments of a different series every show. It is Monday, November 10th. One of everyone's favorite shows ever is Breaking Bad.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah? Yeah, it's literally number one on IMDB. Is it still? Yeah. How about Better Call Soul? How far behind is that? Uh about 24 spots behind. One thing I do find interesting, uh Breaking Bad got 16 primetime Emmys. Uh Better Call Saul was nominated for 53 Emmys and never won one. Set the record for a show that's been nominated the most but never won.
SPEAKER_01:It did get better as it went on. I at first thought it was the opposite because like you watch the first season and there are a couple slower episodes at the end. It's like it would go up and down and up. It isn't very volatile thing. But then like by season four, it really it really found a pace. And then I heard the last season is just one of the best. And I've been saving it. I've been saving it to watch. And I'll be telling you this this ruined it. You know, like Pluribus, there are so many spoilers to breaking bad in Better Call Soul. I'm kidding. But you do have the same character. You have uh, or sorry, you do have the same person.
SPEAKER_00:Actress, Rhea Seaborn. Yeah, and she plays Kim in Better Call Souls, and then she plays Carol Sturka here. Do you know where the name Carol Sturka comes from? Because it's an homage to a TV show that you watched a long time ago.
SPEAKER_01:Carol versus the end of the world.
SPEAKER_00:No, that was a good guess. It's actually the Twilight Zone episode.
SPEAKER_01:Uh season one, episode 14, the one where the first episode is just like a Twilight Zone, uh, outer limits. Yeah, it it could be its own movie almost.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and it's it's the just to clarify, it's the episode where they uh where the earth is about to uh explode, and then they go on the spaceship and then they fly and you realize that Earth is actually where they're going to.
SPEAKER_01:That feel like that happened a lot in different circumstances, yeah, where they realize they weren't actually, we weren't following the Earth characters, we were actually following the Martians or vice versa. Um, the first episode here is called We Is Us. And the synopsis of this show, in in really short form, is that the world is taken over by an outbreak of a virus-like infection that rewrites our genetic code, allows every person on the planet to become connected and adopt a practical worker hive mentality. Some rare individuals are immune, including Carol Sturka, a fantasy romance author who loses her partner and agent during the outbreak and spends the first two episodes grieving, trying to figure out what's going on, and meeting the other outliers in the hopes of changing the fate of the earth.
SPEAKER_00:Was I the only one who saw the name We Is Us and thought, okay, this is a play on this is us?
SPEAKER_01:Yes. Because at that point I was trying to figure, I was like Pluribus, plural, uh, plural you us. And then I was like, I I read on the Wikipedia it's actually a play on um uh e Pluribus Unum, uh, out of many one, the motto of the US.
SPEAKER_00:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And so it to me, the first episode just played out like Invasion of the Body Snatchers. They make mention of that in the second episode when they're like pod people. And I was like, okay, yeah, there's so much like random stuff I just want to talk about. I feel like anybody who's who's tuning in will have seen the show, right? So we don't have to go scene by scene as much as point by point. Can we do that? Yeah, let's do that. So, like in in We as Us, it's also a little bit like Inception, where uh Christopher Nolan had an idea, a science idea about a headline that he read about dreams and how important they can be, right?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But he completely misjudged the science of it, didn't really factor into any sort of real thing that could possibly happen. This is the same way, where it's like they do have like gel electrophoresis, they do talk about RNA and DNA and give the right base names. Um, but then when it gets into what is actually happening to humanity, like the way of the outbreak, they're just like it's kind of like a virus, and then they just expect people to accept that.
SPEAKER_00:But to be honest, the premise is so interesting, anyways. I didn't really care. So it starts with, right? Yes, a satellite field.
SPEAKER_01:So I thought I was dealing with landman because you remember that's just starts with a truck and a bunch of windmills. Right. So there's someone who's driving up and they get out and they're shocked and they're like, you you gotta be kidding me about this, right? They're like, this is bullshit. And they're like, no, no, no. We got this code from 600 light years away. Yeah. And it's telling us this four-coded information. And it takes this other lady to be like, it's actually four different tiers. So it's like four bits of like different information at the same time. And then they played it out almost like um rocket. What what's that old uh guitar hero? You know, where like look at like a guitar hero. Yes, they start talking about it. They figure out that this is actually, I'll jump ahead, an RNA strand that's being uh deciphered across the universe. And so they take it and then they start doing tests with it. And a few months later, because we keep on seeing the days go by, like the days till the apocalypse, um, and uh we see them running gel electrophoresis and doing PCR tests with a bunch of different mice, um, trying to do uh CRISPR, which is like uh cutting out pieces of um RNA and then like sticking them in, seeing how it would um, I guess, uh pop propagate in the mouse. Right and how it would affect them. And I guess they're not coming up with m with much. They come in there. I'll stick with the science storyline for now. And uh and everybody's saying the same thing. This is not working. We're not seeing a virus here. And so they get into the lab and they're about to gas these mice or kill them. Um, she was gonna give them cardiac sticks, which I assume is just a way to kill the mice. Um, and instead, they already see that one is down. So she goes in, they think it's dead. She looks in it, and then she takes off her protective equipment on her glove, which is really dumb. And that's how like any zombie movie starts. That's how, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:When did you know? Because uh obviously that was the first sign of like, oh no, something's gonna go wrong, but when did you know that the world was fucked? Like the whole world. Just then.
SPEAKER_01:Like as soon as the bite happened, obviously.
SPEAKER_00:Uh well, I knew I knew that again, things were going to get bad. I didn't think that the world was fucked until Karen Sony, the guy who uh is in the Deadpool movies and everything, until he kissed the janitor. That's when I was like, oh no, we're in for like uh apocalyptic level.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so the first person gets bit and it's like immediate. So that's where it's like unlike a virus, unlike bacteria, anything that we've seen before, because it was so quick moving and it took her over, and then it was still able. This is this is the thing that confuses me later on, is that what's happening is that it's rewriting her DNA so that she's able to have this psychic uh connection with every other human in the world. But at that point, she would be the only human in the world. So is she connected to the mouse? Like that's the only other person with that rewritten code. Yeah. But what we've seen later on, or what we're led to believe, is that no other species on the planet has this interesting code and that it's not receivable by any other species except for humans. Because we don't see them talking Aquaman style to dolphins in the episode in episode two. In fact, they're just trying to preserve the wildlife.
SPEAKER_00:It may have made more sense, and I understand that that uh that probably the mouse being alive was a big uh hint to something that's going to come, but it may have made more sense had the mouse just been or and died, and then it was like it was just kind of passing that on.
SPEAKER_01:I may have answered my own question too, because they do say in episode two that they release all the animals in the zoo. And why would they do that? Because obviously, if they've been raised in captivity, they couldn't survive, even if humans were all being nice to them in the outside world. But if they are connected on the same weird RNA-enabled strand uh that that is rewritten their code as well and made them telepathic, then uh, or hive-minded, part of the hive mind, then maybe it makes sense why they're all allowed to be out and free. That really confused me in the second episode. I was like, they they even said there were a few maulings. So if if it was the case that they were all on the same sphere of mind, then why would there have been maulings? I don't think that this is a cross-species thing. However, that's how it starts. It starts with a mouse biting the human to get it into their thank you.
SPEAKER_00:It always starts off with like a rabid beast. Like I remember a contagion, it was like a bat or something.
SPEAKER_01:Right. But again, it's not like there's an evil thing that's happening to the first lady. So in her mind, I'm just wondering what's causing her to infect other people because she's the only one in there right now. Then when she connects the Karen Sony guy, right, the other uh doctor, and then he goes and they start adding more and more people, it makes more sense why they adopt this sort of utilitarian task force where everybody's working for the same mission at the same time. That swab scene was so disgusting to me. It was. It was it was gross. And that's where it's like, okay, I can understand what they're doing. They're trying, it's like if COVID was uh a hoax in that like it actually had been. That's that's the way that people are imagining it when they're like, okay, there was a big lab and they sent all these COVID swabs out, and people were eating donuts and infecting themselves. So, what's the other storyline we get? We get Carol, she's at a Barnes and Noble, she's doing a book reading for what do you did you get what her name was called? It was something of the Y Caro.
SPEAKER_00:No, it reminded me a lot of like Sarah J. Moss's like Throne of Glass. It's basically those type of books. Like it's supposed to be a fantasy romance. You got a lot of uh middle-aged women who are very, very interested in these uh kids characters. That I thought was a great joke because you never see like any teens or any kids there. It's just all moms.
SPEAKER_01:Except you also see, I think there was a standout cameo with the guy from Severance.
SPEAKER_00:You know, I know I looked it up to see if that was him. It's not listed on as IMDB or Wikipedia. He looks so much. But he did look a lot like him.
SPEAKER_01:He was in line, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:There was it was very little of that interaction at Barnes and Noble was scripted. A lot of them were just kind of told what they should do, but a lot of the lines. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Because they did cut around it, did a montage of just the her experiences. The guy brought a sword with him, being like Don't don't touch this, it's very sharp. Uh-huh. And uh and then she leaves with her agent, and we learn that A, she is fed up with this work that she's doing. She finds it pretty crappy. I guess she just likes making pay a living, but at the same time, it's not like her end goal. Her end goal is to write her own book or which she's already started, something the chrysalis. Um, and she also has a relationship with her agent, Helen. That is who she actually wrote the book about, but she can't say that in this day and age, I guess. And so she had flipped the sexes so that it would be more of a traditional, uh, straight couple um uh story.
SPEAKER_00:I think that's an homage to Vince Gilligan, because Vince Gilligan, when he was first conceiving the idea, because he's been working on this for like 10 years, originally thought it was going to be a guy. Then he was just like, you know what, I like Rhea Seahorn, and then he uh gave her the script. She signed on before he even pitched the show to anyone.
SPEAKER_01:It also reminds me when he was talking about how originally he wanted to make Walter White into Wanda White and that it was gonna be a woman, but now I'm just um yeah, so it to me it felt as if, yeah, uh Vince Gilligan has hung out with James Gunn just far too much because James Gunn loves these brain monsters, the big fish guy in Suicide Squad, the butterflies in um uh Peacemaker. Peacemaker and the worms in Slither. It's always the same idea of it taking over, but those are usually parasites. And this, from at least episode two onward, we're supposed to believe that this is not a parasite. It's in fact just every person on Earth has uploaded their consciousness into this one big uh cloud brain that they're all able to pull upon. However, there are some drawbacks. So by the end of the first episode, everybody in the world freezes in front of Carol, starts having little mini seizures, right? And she's unable to communicate with anybody at all. And so she goes to the hospital and everybody's frozen. And then she sees her, even Helen, who she's trying to save, uh, dies in front of her. She tries to give her CPR um and cannot resuscitate her.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I think it's also very important because the way that it's spread is it kind of reminds me of The Last of Us almost, but is through a kiss, and the doctor who is infected kisses.
SPEAKER_01:It doesn't, it doesn't spread through it, it spreads through um any sort of DNA getting into you, but that's the quickest way. Right. It's just like mouth to mouth.
SPEAKER_00:And a doctor does kiss Carol, but Carol, much like the main character in contagion, is kind of immune, at least as of now.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, another confusing premise is the first time we see these, uh, the mouse bite her, it it happens almost instantaneously, you know, um, where she's infected and then suddenly like her brain changes or like her DNA changes. And the same thing happens with the first set of people, the army people. But later on, it seems like what happens is they must have adopt uh adapted the um virus thing because everybody goes like freaky seizure mode all at the same time in the entire world. So that must mean that the actual science has changed, that they've created some way to incubate and so they've been like dispersing it. Because again, the days are crawling by. We know that all of this stuff would have gone into people's bodies by now, but they don't go instant zombie mode, uh, you know. So I think it just waits until a single second. Maybe then a radio signal or something uh says right now, and then everybody at the same time becomes uh uh stuck in that phase. I guess that's to limit casualties. It also seems to cause almost one out of nine people on Earth to die in one form or another. I had a question whether or not the reason why Helen dies is because of that fall that she takes when she has the seizure, or if it's just that some people aren't capable of uploading their brain without like going into brain bleed or something.
SPEAKER_00:The one out of nine thing reminded me a lot, the leftovers. And also, if it is what you're kind of talking about, it's a little bit like the bugs in Westworld. I think it was just the fact that Helen Right from the fall. I think it was just Helen from the fall that killed her.
SPEAKER_01:I because I don't think we did see other people who were bleeding once they had like taken damage. And like he said, when at the very end, Carol is talking to the man on the TV, the person who is uh the high well, no one, everybody is in charge, but he has a suit on and he was like, and I was intact. They used the word intact, meaning that there are just so many people who during that time uh didn't come out of it the right way.
SPEAKER_00:Davis Davis Taffler was his name. The actor Peter Bergman was introduced to Vince Gilligan by Brian Cranston. He actually, I think, was probably my favorite character out of the two episodes, even though he's only in that one.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I don't think he's coming back because that's the whole point. We will be so in the second episode. So Carol has this epiphany of what's like going on. It's kind of just told to her straight out. She's like, is this an alien invasion? They're like, no. What's happened is that our brains are all one now and we are so happy, and you can live your own life. We don't begrudge you. They don't decide to stick her into any sort of like it I would understand it almost if they stuck her into a zoo.
SPEAKER_00:Because like that, A, that would be like Slaughterhouse Five.
SPEAKER_01:And B, I do not not to not for entertainment purposes, just for her own safety. And then what we learn in episode two is for their safety as well. If they cannot make decisions, if they cannot handle stress from one individual, then you would think that they would be protective enough that they would try to quarantine that person and not just abide by their everywoman wish.
SPEAKER_00:I did, I did wonder, because she's like uh kind of evoking a lot of stress by the end of the first episode, with only 11 people in the world. The fact that everyone is in unison was it 13? Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Well, with it's 11 others but her, but then they found out there was a 12th in the line in the second episode.
SPEAKER_00:And then there's like five others that can speak English, and those are the five she wants to meet with. I was a little surprised. I was like, you don't have I understand that this is a new virus and and things are going to be figured out, but they can't deal with the fact that she's just getting so angry to them that they have to everyone flips into a seizure.
SPEAKER_01:So this is all episode two. Episode one, I just want to say, is probably just like probably an eight or a nine to me. Like it's just a solid, freaky, twilight zone-ish episode of TV. And at the end, they're kind of like, we're going to make you one of us. And she's like, What if I say no? And they're like, You don't understand. It's great. And then she freaks out a little bit because she's like, Holy shit, they're not gonna accept my no when they do perfect the science here. Again, the science is kind of crazy. The gene therapy, you really have to just like the idea that they can create some physical channel, a continuous, like high bandwidth communication between brains, uh, whether it be like electrical, molecular, EM, what have you. Uh, it's it's such a far stretch.
SPEAKER_00:But I was able to get uh I was able to kind of like write that off because I was just enjoying the atmosphere. I think my favorite shot is when all the cars kind of in synchronicity, like end up leaving because she wants everyone to leave.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I would say severance is almost the exact opposite of this, because in that everyone's persona is doubled, maybe even more tripled. You know, like you have a bunch of different severed people. In this, it's all about bringing them all together. You know, what happens if in severance they get infected with this puppy? Then I mean, obviously, everybody would just act like a freaking drone, like they do in the second episode. But at the same time, then Adam Scott's all his different identities would be one. It's very much like humans, too, I thought, you know, because I guess yes. Like the roboticness when you were bringing up Westworld and how, like, yeah, usually we're thinking about people being encoded or robots being encoded through technology, but this is more about our own code. And it's just ironic because that one guy passed away, Watson passed away over the last couple of days, who had helped uh like coin or figure out how DNA worked, the structure of DNA. Episode two is called Pirate Lady. And this is the one, it's called Pirate Lady because the book that Carol had written, right? The Waitara book, right, with the main character, the dude in that, this is like the lady version of that. And they thought that it would be the best version to talk to her. And by the end of the episode, she does sort of fall in love with this character.
SPEAKER_00:So you think that's where it's going?
SPEAKER_01:You think that like that's where no, I don't know yet. But episode two, I have a lot more issues with than episode one. Episode one, I felt kind of like you could fill in the gaps with your own like headcanon. But by episode two, where they start giving you answers, is where even more questions come about.
SPEAKER_00:And that's that's where it is. It's like episode one kind of gave you the premise, but they really tried to expand it in episode two. And I give the show props for at least not kind of waiting for us to see the other people that uh that have this rare thing where they're not getting infected. But when you start trying to answer things and the answers just really don't compute, that's when you run into some problems.
SPEAKER_01:When we talk about answers that don't compute, let's let's get into that. So we're led to believe that everybody is now one consciousness, right? Yeah. And they all kind of work together. That's what we see in the first scene. And I really like the shots that they did where it would be like 10 minutes where you just kind of watch people go about their day doing activities, but clear as day to anybody who's watching it that they all know what's going on. Very little dialogue, they don't have to speak to each other to know. Um, but but when it comes down to the decision making as to how their society works, I get it's supposed to be utilitarian, right? Everybody is supposed to work for everyone's good, right? Yeah, and and so they've chosen to be vegetarian. But I if they did a popular vote of everyone in the world, would we really choose to be veget vegetarian? Like that's kind of a strange one to me. And then it says you that they wouldn't hurt a fly. Like you you would try not to, not even an insect. If you did a popular vote again of everybody getting stuck in one person's head, would they really agree on not hurting a fly?
SPEAKER_00:I think that that's more just kind of symbolism because it's like vegetarians is is all about like uh kind of you know, these other species.
SPEAKER_01:So, like there's yes, as much as they want to say, we're everyone, you don't understand, we're not being invaded. It does feel like there is an underlying consciousness that was sent forth from outer space, which is kind of guiding the principles to which this new uh race of humanity is dealing with. So, like with Carol's fear, I feel like some of the stuff she's like, Oh, I just want to get back to normal, like that's a little ridiculous at this point. But her fear that this isn't all it's made out to be, I feel like that's grounded because there's no reason why if everybody was working together, they would be this way, but especially the way that they're treating these people. So we see Carol get mad at Pirate Lady, right? Yeah, and she says, uh uh, you guys fuck this all up, right? Like it's your fault. And they freeze again, and this causes 11 million people to die. Yeah. This is a fool me once scenario. Once she does that one time and they realize how weak they are, or everyone in the world realizes how weak they are, if they still consider life to be precious, which they tend to say that they do, they won't even hurt a lobster. That would be the moment where you say, okay, we cannot be around Carol. We cannot be around people who we cannot control. And also, it doesn't really seem like a very safe um RNA virus to be sending overseas to other worlds if they can be shocked or flummoxed or or taken out by just some random person yelling at them.
SPEAKER_00:Well, it's it's obviously setting up like uh I feel like hints for later on, maybe how these people are going to be defeated or how these aliens are going to be defeated. But I agree with you. The second that I learned that 11 million people died from by this six-second breakout, I was like, that's that's thin skin.
SPEAKER_01:It's less about the fact that they died the first time. It's the fact that then allowed her to keep on just being around them, you know, like kept on calling the shots. How is that evolutionary helpful? And also, how is it like how does it make humanity better if like we're losing more people to that than we were when we were all independent personalities? They are slaves, as much as uh Zosha, I think is his pirate lady's name, yeah, uh says that they're not. And and also like I just they're incapable of making decisions because they don't want to hurt anybody's feelings. That's what they say later on. And this just it doesn't feel like they made the decision to infect everybody. They made the decision to take over things and kill a hell of a number of people. So, how are they able to make that decision and then not like the consequences of 13 randos who they they could easily just muscle bound into a small room and keep them alive, probably not at the happiest crew. But that's better than whoring out like the population and and and giving out like prostitutes to that one guy. Because this is all getting into like the weeds of the the mentality of the 13 remainder remaining people. But that's another thing is like if she is a genetic uh uh rarity, you would think that someone in her family would be more likely to have that same rarity than randomly 13 people across the globe. Like I I definitely believe that there would be random people from a bunch of continents. However, the idea that no one would be related to anyone else when they have that genome, like their their whole genome.
SPEAKER_00:Because we see their family, we see the law of their family and they are all infected by it.
SPEAKER_01:I'm saying if like you have the chances of someone else in your family having a genetic illness are like amplified times crazy if one person has it, right? In your in your direct family. So the idea that none of these people have a relative who also experienced that uh non-ability to conform into this alien species or this uh this new version of humanity surprised me. Overall, though, it seemed like the ending was a little clunky to me because she scared everybody off. The five people that she had accrued to try to be like, okay, we got to do something about this. Right. By the time that she caused everybody, everybody else on earth to have another seizure, another however million people were going to die from that, everybody was kind of like, oh, we're out of here, you know? And the only one who stayed along was the guy who wanted to go to Vegas. I think his name is Kumba Diamate in the show. By that time, it it was more of a comedy, and it felt like the it's like Last Man on Earth style comedy, where the bigger decision for her was not what do we do about humanity now, but it was more whether or not I got to keep my own personal assistant Zosha with me. Because she and she could have just walked up to the pilots because that's how they left things when she saw Zosha and this guy who's going to LA or to Las Vegas, um, getting on the plane together. She could have gone over to the pilot and said, Hey, could Zosha come back? And immediately through if they're all connected, yeah. They are all connected. Yeah, Zosha would have just walked off the plane. Instead, we see like this kind of over-the-top scene where she demands the plane stop and she runs out in front of the other plane.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, arms.
SPEAKER_01:Why is that necessary?
SPEAKER_00:It didn't make a lot of sense. I'm hoping that not a lot of uh those type of scenes happen again because yeah, when you have everyone connected, that's kind of what makes this series cool. And it seemed like it almost forgot that in the final five minutes. What would your overall score be for this?
SPEAKER_01:For episode one, it was like an eight or a nine for episode two. I would bring that down to like a six. Still, still fun to watch, but like I was definitely put off by a lot of the answers that they were giving us. I would compare it to Westworld Utopia, Twilight Zone with uh pod people from Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Also, it felt like a little bit like weekend at Bernie's in the first episode, where she just kept on dragging Helen around her dead body. Even in the second episode, she looks over and she sees Helen just on the ground.
SPEAKER_00:I thought that Primal uh was a good comparison as well, because again, there is dialogue in the two episodes, but there's definitely a lack of it. It's supposed to be told more just kind of, I think, through shots and kind of emotional uh exchanges. But the series has received critical acclaim. Uh it has a nine on IMDB, 100% on Raw and Tomatoes, deadline said of the pilot, the Powerhouse pilot is one of 25's most impressive TV episodes.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so you could put that in the same place with like Alien and those type of things. We'll definitely get into our best of pretty soon because we are in November at this point. I will also say for Apple, like it falls into their, they're better usually with sci-fi shows. For all mankind, Severance, Foundation, Murderbot. I enjoyed all at least some seasons of those. Um, invasion is not my thing, but like for the most part, Apple knows how to hit these off. And with Vince Gilligan at the helm, uh, just like with Better Call Saul, episode two could be just like one of the better calls episodes I didn't like. And then he was able to like turn it all around.
SPEAKER_00:I think I think it is because Collider gave the series a 10 out of 10. BBC called it one of 2025's most smartest shows.
SPEAKER_01:And that's Oh, it's smart.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, The Guardian gave called the show Incredible, but then gave it four out of five stars. So I think that like I'm I'm willing to say that episode two, and I'm hoping this is the case, was just kind of weak, and that the rest of the episodes kind of make up for it.
SPEAKER_01:Just by giving us better answers or understanding, I I just don't see how this this species is so great. Like, if they didn't have this weird stress-related response where they all kind of freak out, then it would be a whole different type of show. But I think this is to show us the weakness of this uh new this new life form.
SPEAKER_00:I just wish that the that if they did have this, it was a stronger thing than the fact that uh Carol just gets mad at them and suddenly they can't handle it.
SPEAKER_01:If there was like continually keeps her stress at that point where it's like even after the first time, the second time, and she's like, it's never gonna happen again. Then she's yelling in front of it, and it takes the guy going to Vegas. I don't understand though why they keep on giving that guy like people who are just gonna like sleep with him. Like it's still it's still humans, right? Like it's still their brains. And except you're sleeping with the entire range of humanity.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I think what it was was that the guy was, at least this is what I got, and maybe uh they'll explain it later. But I think he was normal. And then when he heard from whoever that uh, you know, he just had to dial zero for anything, he was like, I'm just gonna take this to the extreme, get a plane.
SPEAKER_01:He's living up his his genie wish. Like I get his character. I just don't understand why they're abiding by it. Why they're not like, yeah, we're not gonna do that. Like they won't make him lobster, but they'll sleep with him, with any woman that he wants. He just asks for. Like that doesn't, it doesn't equate, you know? It feels like it's working by two different sorts of rules. And and like if for the sake of the television show, for me to understand it, I just want it to make sense. Anything else you want to say about it?
SPEAKER_00:I will give the series a seven and a half out of ten. First episode nine, second episode six. So I'm pushing both your scores.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's that's that works. It just means we're like-minded on the situation. Um, do you think that you would want to live in this world?
SPEAKER_00:No. I was a little surprised though that everyone and I mean everyone out of the six people that she spoke to, including yourself, that they that there wasn't one that was like, yeah, you know what, we probably shouldn't be doing this. We we shouldn't be uh we should try and fight this. Because that's that's exactly where I would be.
SPEAKER_01:It's a losing battle. I mean, clearly it's it's a lost battle. So I didn't understand her her thing of like, oh, who has a background in biology? As if they were going to beat out what, eight, nine million people time billion people uh in one person in every single person's head. Um, yeah, no, I I have no idea where it's going. So that's fun. So thanks for listening. We'll see you on the next episode. Hope you enjoyed this one. Bye. Bye.