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I Love LA (S01E01-03)
We've all seen the shirts, now there’s a show. I Love LA is HBO's new half-hour comedy about a codependent friend group in 2025 Los Angeles. Rachel Sennott stars as Maia, an associate talent manager whose life is derailed when her chaotic best friend and influencer Tallulah (Odessa A’zion) lands in LA. Across the first three episodes, we discuss the shows satire, the performances (Josh Hutcherson, Jordan Firstman, Leighton Meester etc...), and how it stacks up against series like Girls, Insecure, and Search Party. With three episodes already out, we also touch on reception, where the story seems headed, how Rachel Sennott went from internet comic to HBO creator, and some favorite bits of behind-the-scenes trivia. Welcome to Today’s Episode!
Welcome to today's episode, the podcast where we discuss the most recent installments of a different series every show. It is Friday, November 21st. The day is finally here. It is World Television Day. And how are we going to celebrate it? We're going to talk about I Love LA because LA is where most television, I don't even think this is true anymore, but where most television is made. It's usually that or New York. Vancouver. Anywhere else in the world is a half-hour comedy series with a codependent friend group navigating the life and lure of internet fame in Los Angeles. The ensemble cast includes Rachel Sinat. She's the show creator. She plays Maya, a 27-year-old aspiring talent manager. There's Odessa Zion, who you might recognize from Grand Army as Maya's energetic influencer friend to Lula. Do you remember where Grand Army took place? No. It was a very New York central show.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, right, because it took place at like a New York high school.
SPEAKER_01:Right, and exactly a high school where they were doing like some sort of play. I think it was based on something called like slut.
SPEAKER_00:And then there was like a bomb threat.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was like 2020, I think. Yeah. So she's she's been around. Um, but she actually made the move from New York to LA like she does in this show, like Tululu does. Um and True Whitaker is there. She's a Nepo famous friend, Alani. Uh, do you want to guess who her dad is? Well, I know it's Forrest Whitaker. Oh, you do?
SPEAKER_00:So you do you do you know Forrest Whitaker's all his kids' names? I only knew True Whitaker because I saw her in the in the cast. His kids' names are True, Ocean, Sonnet, and Autumn.
SPEAKER_01:He's got a very interesting choice of names. That's it's cool. Uh, and then Jordan Firstman as stylist Charlie.
SPEAKER_00:So one of the things I liked was that I recognized the cast, but they aren't A-listers, which I think makes it even better. What do you call Josh Hutcherson? I'd say Josh Hutcherson is very high on the B-list scale, but they're all B-list. The the biggest name, I think, is probably Leiden Meister. And she is like You say Light, not Leighton? Leighton Meister, I've always just like kind of uh alternated between the two. Is that like your LA accent coming out? Have you ever you've never been to LA? No, I haven't, but I've been to uh California before. Okay. But she's playing kind of the A-list role. Then you also have people like Josh Brenner from Silicon Valley baking.
SPEAKER_01:He does make an appearance.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and then Iowetta Beerie shows up in the second episode as well. Was it only the second episode, not the third? I only saw her in the second episode.
SPEAKER_01:Do you remember Bo Jack where they had the dolphin who was like a teen pop star? Yeah. That's what from just reading about Iowetta Beerie's character, she sounded like. Because she was just bedazzled like crazy, right? And then she is she the one who goes after Tulula? Is she the one who gets mad at Tulula?
SPEAKER_00:That's Paulina. That's someone else.
SPEAKER_01:But they're all like kind of internet famous, but but she's a pop star.
SPEAKER_00:Yes. That's me. And again, that's the second episode. I think Jordan Firstman was probably the funniest character. He's given the best lines, which is very different than how I feel about the English teacher, because although I like the English teacher TV show, he was probably my least favorite character there. Josh Hutcherson, I feel the same way I do as him, like with Daniel Radcliffe, where Daniel Radcliffe, whenever he's in comedies, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Miracle Workers, Weird Owl, they've mastered being likable no matter who they are. And that's why he's probably my favorite character out of the whole stuff.
SPEAKER_01:It does feel like he's taking a more sane character here than he normally does, especially with the Five Nights at Freddy's. Like the second one is coming out. Yeah, I think it's coming out in December. In like a week. So are you gonna go see that too?
SPEAKER_00:I wasn't a big fan of it, but I always like his act. Is the first one? Yeah, the first one.
SPEAKER_01:So Brian Jordan Alvarez, you already brought up, uh, English teacher. He got prominent from some viral videos on Instagram and TikTok. Remember, he would like put out those weird filtered videos of the singing dude, right? And Rachel Sinat got famous sort of in a similar way, where she had been acting and stuff off the on the side. But like her real big break came in like 2019. She was a New York native, and then she put out this video that went viral on TikTok where she uh she was just pretending to be from LA and talking about how everybody was on drugs and partying the whole time. And it was only like 15 seconds. And so And she got bodies, bodies, bodies off of that. Actually, I think she just auditioned for Bodies, Bodies, Bodies and got the part there, but she got bottoms from from her work beforehand, and that was with Ioetta Beery. So that's where they'd be like, and and Marshawn Lynch was also in that. Marshawn Lynch hasn't shown up in this, right?
SPEAKER_00:Not not yet. But I know that just from the trailer that HBO Max keeps showing, there's supposed to be some stars. But Bodies Bodies Bodies, I brought up because that was the first time I saw her. It was a very memorable experience for me because back in like August of 2022, I was in Alaska. I was visiting a friend, and then uh he had to work during the day, so I decided I was going to go see a movie. And this and there was only one movie theater around in Juneau, and they were playing this one film, one showtime. So I went to it, it was the strangest movie theater I had ever been to because it wasn't normal. There wasn't like cushioned seats, there was like lawn chairs and a couch and I think if you've ever grown up in like a small town, this is actually pretty normal. No, this is exactly that way because the concession stand wasn't even a concession stand, it was a kitchen. They didn't have a butter machine. The guy who was running the show uh showing just put a stick of butter in the pan and you had to use the butter that way for popcorn. Right. And then throughout the film, he did this like seven or eight. Do you want to give a plug? Do you want to name the place? I don't remember what it was called, but throughout the film, I remember the guy. He got up like seven or eight times, and while watching the movie, he would always leave, and then I would see the volume bar go up or down, depending on what scene it was. Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01:So you basically just went to someone's house for a movie. It seemed like it. Right. And so what did you think of Rachel Sinat and that?
SPEAKER_00:I like Bodies, Bodies, Bodies a lot. I thought that it was a great film. And I did she survive? You don't you don't remember the movie?
SPEAKER_01:I remember most of them die. Uh spoilers. But uh, but yeah, so she decides that she's gonna do that. And then this this sort of humor and that sort of humor is it at all similar? Uh they are very catty with each other in that movie.
SPEAKER_00:It feels like they're kind of well, they're very, they're very rich too, or at least they like kind of like the rich life. In fact, I think it's either Pete Davidson or Lee Pace in that movie that like has a huge following, right? Almost like uh Tulula and this or Talula. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Uh Tulula is more, I would say, like Vinny from Entourage, where her acting career has taken off, or her like, you know, influencer career has taken off. And she doesn't really seem like she does all that much to like she's not a tryhard or anything. Like she just kind of just effortlessly gets all this stuff handed to her.
SPEAKER_00:You see that in the first episode, like she uh they're trying really hard again to nightclub, and then she just meets the manager and is able to waltz in. She even got like a big suite room at a hotel, just by being able to kind of be very charismatic with the people there.
SPEAKER_01:My thing is like, I think that this is really a question whether or not you enjoy the show, is how much tolerance you have for self-absorbed characters. Yes. So, like for English teacher, his whole vibe, like all the characters surrounding him, they're all supposed to be kind of dumb and they're all supposed to be like selfish in a way. But in the end, you know that they do care about the kids that they're teaching, and it's also sending like a positive message as far as like just a progressive idea of where we should go as a culture and how people should be more accepting of everybody. This it feels like there really isn't that, like it's absent, and that's why people have compared it to girls from like way earlier, or insecure, where where like it's kind of just people being dicks to one another. And I guess if you look really deep inside that they're all friends, but do you really think that this group wouldn't betray each other for like a tiny win?
SPEAKER_00:They would definitely stab each other in the back. That's the reason why Dylan was my favorite character because Josh Hutcherson, yeah, he he actually is a teacher, ironically enough. Um Spanish elementary teacher or something. And he doesn't really have um like any faults to him. He's not part of the hype house. Yeah, right. And and Maya also her goal is that she wants to be uh she wants to get a promotion because she works for like a uh she's an assistant at a social media marketing firm. So she's a good character as well.
SPEAKER_01:But you're right, when it comes to- When you say she's a good character, though, I feel like she's the one who's going to be falling the furthest, like turning the most evil, being the most heel by the end.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know. It's it's strange because like to Lula, she just makes Maya's life hard because by the end of the first time. She's like the devil on her shoulder. Yeah, and she's like even doing things like in the second episode, like masturbating on Dylan and Maya's bed, even when Dylan comes home. Yeah, I mean, like, and then Charlie Is that like explicit, or is it just like shown from the it's phone sex? Yeah, you don't you don't see anything. There is some nudity in the TV show, but then also you have Charlie. Charlie is just kind of mean to everyone. That's the guy from the English teacher. Again, he's given the funniest lines, he's a gay uh stylist, but also, yeah, like there, I think it's the third episode where he goes into a coffee shop and because he's not being able to cut the line, he starts talking to everyone in line about how he had sex with like the barista that's working there. So what do you think the point is?
SPEAKER_01:Like, do you think that uh Rachel Sinat is doing this as a complete satire? Like, fuck LA, or is it one of those ones where she's embracing it?
SPEAKER_00:I think that it's uh I I know it's kind of a cop-out answer to say a bit of both, but I feel like you don't make a show called I Love LA without actually loving it. But it's just like, I mean, the characters themselves, even Alani, who's VP of Creative Projects, I do like how meta her character is with like the famous dad and everything, but it even she's not really that likable. So it seems like it's almost making fun of the personalities, but maybe uh paying homage to like the actual place itself. That would be the way that I would describe it, at least.
SPEAKER_01:Not just the place, but also the timing-wise. Like this is supposed to be a very now series, it's like post-pandemic. In fact, they they had a different original title. I want to see if you can guess what it is. Okay, it was either The Rizzers, Slayin' in LA, Climbers, or haven't you heard? Uh Slaying in LA, I think is my Slaying in LA. No way.
SPEAKER_00:Well, there's no way it's the Rizzers. It's the Rizzers.
SPEAKER_01:No, um, it's climbers, social climbers. Like the thing though that like strikes me, okay. So she's 30 years old. She says she's on the cusp between Millennial and uh and Gen Z.
SPEAKER_00:She's 27.
SPEAKER_01:She's 27 in the show. Oh, um, she started making it, I think she when she was in her 20s. Um and uh so yeah, the the cast is actually like a wide range because uh I think Odessa uh Ozion is like 25, and then um Firstman is like late 30s, yeah, and then Josh Hutcherson is or like earlier 30s.
SPEAKER_00:Obviously, Lighting Meester is probably in her late 20s.
SPEAKER_01:She played the girl boss, she's like in charge of everything, but like yeah, it's so it's it's kind of stretching despite the fact that they're all supposed to be like in their mid-20s. Yep. Um what where was I going with this? So yeah, uh is it really the to say now and not 2015? Because if you think about it, like influence culture has been around for quite some time. It doesn't feel like any of the have any of the jokes that they're making right now, the references that they're doing right now, couldn't have been made kind of in the past, even if it wasn't the exact ones.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, uh I yeah, maybe around that time frame, like they do mention TikTok, or at least TikTok is what like a video that people posts on. And I do feel like influencer culture has only grown since then. So I wouldn't say it's a lot of things. It hasn't gone away by any. Yeah, this isn't like an archaic TV show where you hear the references and you cringe.
SPEAKER_01:But it does feel like it's kind of following the same trademarks as other shows, like Entourage in Atlanta, where the main character is a type A personality, whether you have Urn or you have uh E in Entourage, and they have this best friend who just seems like everything goes their way. They don't need to, they might be very talented, but they don't really need to try very hard to get things to just fall in place that they just become a good way to show that Talula isn't really talented.
SPEAKER_00:She just takes good pictures. Like it's definitely not embracing influencers and and and showing them to be like these great people. Right, but her personality is such that she is very popular.
SPEAKER_01:It also reminds me a little bit when we did the resurrected show. Is that the name of it? Um, the the Thai series that we did recently. Yeah, yeah. Where like one of the daughters, this is a dark show. So like there were two daughters and one of them is is killed and the other one like ends up in a coma. But the one that's in the coma was an influencer as well and tried to get the other daughter to come out and hang out with her because all they need to do is post stuff online and they get money for that.
SPEAKER_00:I think the only difference is that Tulula in the first episode arrives and Maya doesn't want her to be there. Yeah, Maya's already got a job. She's trying to do other things with her life still in LA. Even Charlie and Alani are telling her that she should just like unfollow Talula on Instagram because like she they they're saying that she should just distance herself from her as well.
SPEAKER_01:If every character, so let's just quickly go through them. So Maya is not entirely grounded, so she's susceptible to her friends. So how would you describe her? Just a mess or what?
SPEAKER_00:I I don't know. I think that again, she has the clearest goal. She wants to become like a talent manager and she wants to be the best at it. She even asked Light and Meester, the manager at the beginning of the episode, to do that.
SPEAKER_01:So I think that she has like a good head on her shoulders, but she's also just in a way, in a way, it's like louder milk too, where there was that guy who was getting promoted through the job and he was trying to work through the company, but then he gets confused as uh an addict. And so then the other guy like really screws up his career by like kidnapping him, taking Tulula is definitely taking her in different directions.
SPEAKER_00:Yes, Tulula is is the craziness that you kind of talked about, uh like making her go out uh to like bars and stuff like that.
SPEAKER_01:But the ceiling is super high. This is like a Jerry McGuire situation where if you hitch your tent to uh to to that person, and that person does take off and become big, the next Miley Jenner or whatever, um, then then you have made bank.
SPEAKER_00:And that's why the first episode ends with them agreeing to work together. Tallula gets to stay in LA, but Maya uh it's going to, she's going to help Maya get a promotion. Uh Tulula reminded me a little bit of Mixie from Sunny, if you remember that TV series, because Mixie was just like supposed to be kind of as just crazy person, completely off social media though.
SPEAKER_01:Right. So in that way, very different. But uh yeah, so uh I found it funny though that originally they were even gonna have more, I think, of the influencer. Like, I think her boyfriend was also gonna be an influencer. Yeah. Yeah. And so they had Miles Robbins play uh the character in the pilot, and then they rewrote it for Josh Hutcherson. Miles Robbins would have also been an epo baby. He's Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon's kid. That's why he sounds familiar. Okay. And then you had Odessa Zion, who is Pamela Pamela Adlon's kid. So like there is a lot of people with parents who who like have ties to the business.
SPEAKER_00:I was wondering, because I uh especially now I have respect for Rachel Sanat, but how she was able to get the cast that she was able to do, and then she's also like executively producing this series, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:One thing that like So like after she did bottoms, I think like the kind of opportunity opened up, and this is coming out at the same time that the chair company and it are running on on Sundays.
SPEAKER_00:So I think the difference between that is that this is a very light-hearted show. It doesn't take itself seriously, it's not as erratic as something like what we do in the shadows, but any series that starts off with a couple, Maya and Dylan, in this case, having sex and then an earthquake happens, but Maya doesn't want to stop because she thinks that it's going to give her a bigger climax. Obviously, it's not taking itself too seriously. I think the show is all the better for that.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Also, though, like I feel like it could be funnier with the satire, because it does sound like they're kind of limiting themselves with Search Party, the other two, like those ones did not take a step back. In fact, the first men guy was in, or I think he wrote for Search Party as well. So, like, it's it's I I feel like this has been done in a more drastic way before, and this is kind of taking in the right.
SPEAKER_00:It's it's plain it's playing it safe. That is true. I was going through my pros, though. That's the reason why I was saying good things about it. It's also short, 30 minutes. I think it's only supposed to be eight episodes.
SPEAKER_01:Did you like the second and third episode more than the first? Because some people, some reviewers have said that.
SPEAKER_00:It's well, the second and third episode are kind of like a part one and yeah, part two, because it starts off with Maya and Tulula. They're at a coffee shop and they're talking about what they're going to do to kind of help Tulula's image. And then Paulina, that is supposed to be the villain for episode two and three, uh, shows up. And I guess the connection is that Tulula stole a Balaanciaga bag. Is it confirmed she stole it? Uh yeah, I think so. They're like$3,000 bags. Right, yeah, no. And again, it's supposed to show kind of like the egotism, I think, of uh whole.
SPEAKER_01:She didn't do it because she needed the money, like she didn't tell it to resell, she just did it to kind of like spite her disappointment.
SPEAKER_00:I don't know, because again, we learned in the first episode that Talula was broke. Oh, but this was just something that, yeah, she she stole Polina, ends up taking the bag back, and then because Tolula is afraid that Paulina might uh like throw charges at her to avoid charges, she invites unbeknownst to Maya until that night, uh uh Paulina to a dinner. And then Polina, she's acting crazy, she's forcing everyone to do drugs, she's acting awfully, and only leaves when Maya and Talula act crazy, like they pull a ruse where uh where Maya is mad that Dylan is looking at uh her kits, pulling his tits. And so Dylan also like plays into it, right? Right, yeah. And uh he you can see that he doesn't want to, but he obviously cares about it.
SPEAKER_01:That's the search party aspect to me. Like I can see that from uh Shaw Cat or and her boyfriend in like the first season, that dynamic that they have.
SPEAKER_00:He's he's definitely the heart of the show. But uh but when Polina she leaves, but she actually has a moment of goodness, I guess, at the end of the episode, and she's going to leave the bag for Tulula because Tallula, as this whole entire freak out was going on, was like, Don't leave me, you're my one friend, and Paulina ended up leaving because she knew she would. But she ends up uh she's about to leave the bag for Tulula at the doorway, but she hears them laughing about it inside, realizing it was a ruse, and that's where the cliffhanger comes in because she get her away. Yeah, she immediately gets in the Uber and starts exposing Tulula. Now, was this an Uber that was self-driving, or does there a person?
SPEAKER_01:No, you see the person there. In fact, she even says So this is what I'm talking about. This could have been 15 years ago. Maybe it should have been a Waymo. Yes, a Waymo would have dated it as of 2024, 2025.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. And the third episode is just Tulula's reputation implodes after Paulina uh posts the viral video because it goes, yeah, it spreads like wildfire. And then Maya is told by her company that Tallula's every publicity, like good publicity, though. Well, this is actually when Maya's talking to The Fixer, who was again played by Josh Brenner, and he's saying she should just apologize. And I actually did like the way that they explained it because it was played for last, but they were like, depending on what kind of apology it is, if it's like anti-Semitism, you like apologize right away.
SPEAKER_01:When did when did the Logan Paul shit go down? Like when he The Suicide Forest? Yes. Yeah, that was I think 2017. So 10 years ago. Right. So again, as is kind of the same subject matter that you would see, like cancellation. And I understand your point because you're like, it still exists today. It would be one thing if that was like old news, but I'm just saying, like, when they talk about how this is really a Gen Z problem, it feels like it's existed for quite some time.
SPEAKER_00:I guess to me, the references seem like they were updated, but I get what you're saying. This really did start in 2015. But yeah, then uh Maya is like, no, fuck that. We're not going to have her apologize. She's actually going to give an expose to Paulina. And uh, and then Talula ends up posting this very sarcastic video where they expose Paulina. It didn't really work for me because I know that whenever people give like a sarcastic video after they've been exposed, I think of like Colleen Ballinger with the ukulele apology or Logan Paul with this.
SPEAKER_01:She was accused of like actual terrible shit.
SPEAKER_00:Well, this person's just been accused of stealing it from the right, and I know that this is just a TV show, but I'm saying whenever like people try to do that, it doesn't really work. And in the TV show, it acted like the problem that kind of went away. Yeah. Talula loses like a shampoo brand that she was going to be working for at the very end. But that it seemed to like actually.
SPEAKER_01:That was the only consequence.
SPEAKER_00:Right. And I was just like, usually people get very, very like mad about that.
SPEAKER_01:Maybe, maybe people have thicker skin now. Maybe that's the but the point is in the past, maybe there would have been a whole onslaught of of advertisers pulling out. But right now, maybe she's too small of a figure to really have it impact her her her career. Um, she doesn't sing, right?
SPEAKER_00:No.
SPEAKER_01:Do we see her with a boyfriend at all, Talula?
SPEAKER_00:No. Well, we do see her having phone sex. That's part of the reason she doesn't answer. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And do you and do you see Maya and her relationship as one that's lasting, like throughout the series, or do you think that there's trying to make it like that, especially by the end of the episode? Do you think that will come at the risk of her losing her boyfriend, Maya losing her boyfriend?
SPEAKER_00:I don't I hope not, because I like Josh Hutcherson a lot in this role. I I think he's definitely a saving grace for the TV show. Also, what happened with uh Charlie, just to talk about really fast, because we brought up earlier, uh Mimi, who again is played by Iowetta Beery, uh, he was kind of talking to her at the beginning, and he ended up coming up with a story because she was gonna have Zendaya in a video. Um, and I think Charlie was just kind of freaking out about that, where he made it sound like Zendaya is a nightmare to work with. So for the whole entire for the whole entire second episode, he's trying to find like fabricated stories, and Mimi ends up like uh firing him in the second episode when she learns that it was fake. But she's yeah, she's not supposed to be a likable character either. It's weird though, because the character's goals seem kind of murky. Maya's as the clearest she wants a promotion, fine. But to Lula, to Lula, I thought it was a little bit of a stretch that she was gonna stay in LA, but I guess she's trying to get back on her feet. Alani being the VP of a company that doesn't like her, I didn't really see where her story's supposed to go. Dylan, aside from him just being a teacher, it doesn't seem like he has any like goal at all.
SPEAKER_01:I think that's kind of the point is that in the tw in your 20s, um in mid-20s, you're kind of aimless, or you can spend years where it's just like, well, what exactly am I doing with my life? And that together they're gonna formulate. It's again the classic friends motif where they're just gonna by by the time they hit 30, hopefully that they'll they'll have more of their act together.
SPEAKER_00:But Charlie, like, he's just trying to f find a man to be with. And the whole third episode, he takes Talula out to like a restaurant and he starts hitting on a waiter only to realize that waiter later on is like actually married and he realizes he just like tipped them way too much money because he was trying to get with them. Where does Leight Measter fall into play? Like, was she in the third episode? She's in the third episode when she's talking to Maya about apologizing. It seems like she's been very busy.
SPEAKER_01:Nobody wants this. Good cop, bad cop, buccaneers. Now I love that.
SPEAKER_00:I was surprised to see her in the show. Again, it's funny because she's supposed to be playing kind of that A-list role, even though she doesn't, I think, fully fit that. Also, it just, yeah, when it comes to the characters and even the location, I didn't feel necessarily like this had to be LA. It felt like it could have been any big place like New York or Florida, even or something like that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Are we talking about reviews at this point? Yeah. What would you give it?
SPEAKER_00:Oh, I will give it a four and a half out of ten. There is good stuff in the show, but I think that there's a lot of just long moments where it's just a lot of cringe jokes that don't work.
SPEAKER_01:Did you recognize Randy Newman's song in the first uh episode, the I Love LA song? I don't think I did, no. Yeah, well, I mean, he's got a very distinct voice. Yeah. Also, it was funny you brought up Bo Burnham earlier because uh his ex-girlfriend, uh, who's like significantly older than him, who did the pilot's directing uh for the first episode, and in Jat GBT, when I was just checking my notes, it gave me this the falsest fact. It was like, and Bo Burnham shows up with his wife, with his wife, mind you, not his ex-girlfriend, but his wife in an episode cameo. And I was just like flummoxed as to how it got to that. Um It was made two years ago, you know. They filmed this. Yeah, but even then it's not his wife. Mixed response, as far as uh IMDB is concerned. You have a 5.8 and 84% on Ron Domato's, 47% audience score, 64% on Metacritic. So if it's going to get there, if it's gonna get that audience that it wants, numbers have been fine, but like as far as people who aren't hate watching it, then it's gonna have to, I think, improve a bit. Also, it's it kind of reminds me a little bit last reference is of the better sister, because that was about a murder and stuff like that. But it kind of goes into the relationship of like the the problem showing up at your doorstep that also used to be like one of your closest ties and like how they are going to end up working together.
SPEAKER_00:You know, it's definitely, I think, yeah, Maya, like her friendship with Charlie and Alani, and probably to Lula by the end, is definitely more like brother sister than anything. They're supposed to be very close.
SPEAKER_01:All right. Thanks for listening. We'll see you in the next episode. Hope you enjoyed this one.
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