A Man on the Inside (Season 2)

Ted Danson is back undercover in Season 2 of A Man on the Inside. Charles finds himself posing as a professor at Wheeler College. Throughout eight episodes he investigates clues like a burned painting, a missing laptop, a fountain pen, and a full staff of liberal arts teachers.  On the pod, we break down the best moments, the red herrings, Project Aurora, and standouts like Mary Steenburgen, Gary Cole, and David Strathairn. We also talk the Good Place connections, the Julie–Vanessa-Apollo storyline, and whether the finale sticks the landing. Tune in and enjoy!Welcome to Today’s Episode!

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:15

Welcome to today's episode, the podcast, where we discuss the most recent installments of a different series every show. It is November 28th. Stranger Things season eight is finally out. It's Black Friday, and if you're out there shopping, good luck to you on whatever purchase you're trying to make.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

It's Jon Stewart's birthday, and I think I can connect that to Ted Danson because did you know what happened with Jimmy Kimmel and Jon Stewart? What did they fought? Well, a month ago, Jimmy Kimmel was on Ted Danson's podcast.

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Oh, that's right. He did start a podcast. Did he start the podcast because of this show? A man on the show. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

I don't know. I don't even know how long it's been on, but I know that Jimmy Kimmel said that Jon Stewart and him were vying for the same position. The position that Jimmy Kimmel has now, because Bill Maher's politically incorrect went to network and suddenly I think uh ABC was trying to like pick between the two.

SPEAKER_00 1:04

So Stewart already had the Daily Show at the time?

SPEAKER_01 1:06

Uh he either had the Daily Show or he had the Jon Stewart show, which was the show he had before the Daily Show.

SPEAKER_00 1:11

I don't know when the time he had that MTV show for like a year.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Yeah, come to think of it, I think it was the late 90s, so it probably was the daily show.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

I think Bell Maher was cut off from his show in like 2003 or 2002. Right. So it would have been after the Daily Show had been around for a while. It make it's weird to think that Stuart would have left then to jump onto a late night television, like you know, on especially because he seems so comfortable even like right as he got into the daily show. Do you think he would have taken his bit with him? Would he have like hated Matt Damon as much? Would anyways, yeah. So Jimmy Kimmel, well, what's what's his deal with the man on the inside though?

SPEAKER_01 1:47

Well, that I was just saying it connects with Ted Danson because of the podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:50

Okay, and it's also Dick Van Dyke's birthday pretty soon. He's like turning 99. Uh yeah, a lot of birthdays and and congratulatory stuff as 2026.

SPEAKER_01 1:58

Ted Danson's birthday is right the day before mine. So that's something I better do as well.

SPEAKER_00 2:02

December 29th? Yep. Okay. Uh and he is 77 years old. His wife is 72 years old, and that was a big deal because in this show, she's 74 years old. And from the interview that I read, she was upset that they aged her up. So Michael Scher, who is the Scherverse, he's he's done everything from the good place, partly the office, uh Brooklyn 99, right? Brooklyn 99. And you see just all these characters from or all these people who have worked with him before just thrown into this. Kind of like Bill Lawrence, and when he works on Scrubs and he goes on to do all those other things.

SPEAKER_01 2:34

Also, a lot of circa like comedy bang bang crowd. Jason Manzucas shows up this season. Eugene. Max Greenfield.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

If you think about it, well, Twisted Metal also has Jason Manzucas. It also has uh the Brooklyn 99 Lady Quiet. Yeah, Stephanie Beatrice. And uh, and so like, yeah, it just feels like this whole world of comedy, it's just different versions of those universes.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

It's quite shocking going from I Love LA, which was about early 20s something, kind of it's always sunny characters where they're not necessarily likable, but I guess the show wants you to see where they're going to turn up, going to this, which is I feel like made for old people, because I mean again, it starts Ted Danny.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

It's not Boston legal, but it's definitely there. It's like silly humor that you can laugh with your grandma.

SPEAKER_01 3:15

Wholesome, wholesome. It's definitely not trying to be dark in any way. They did, I feel like, kind of ramp up the drama a little bit, especially when you're dealing with Julie uh and and her uh mom Vanessa.

SPEAKER_00 3:27

But yeah. Everybody sort of knows this already. But like the first season was based on a chilling documentary that was actually kind of dark because it dealt with a guy who had been hired to go into a nursing facility and check on kind of the residents. And so he went undercover and he made friends with a lot of them, and he learned that it wasn't really the staff that was mistreating them, but really the fact that they just never got visitation from some of their families, which was really making them lonely and really progressed their like diseases in a way that like people people lose themselves.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

So the first season just decided to make it really light because I don't think I watched every episode of the first season, but the premise uh was that Ted Danson was at an old facility, like an old folks home.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

He was he goes undercover, so it follows that premise. He becomes a PI and he's trying to find like a necklace, right?

SPEAKER_01 4:12

Yeah, someone has stolen the necklace and then D D is the one that runs the facility, and they end up finding out who did it, and then at the very end of the first season, he decides that he's going to work more with Julie on new cases, right?

SPEAKER_00 4:23

The moral message, though, I think is still the same, which is that the there was no person who stole it on purpose. Like it was someone who had dementia. And really, the thing that was exacerbating every one of the residents there was the fact that they were lonely. Right. You know, they're just they wanted a friend group, and that's why the that that place continued into the second season as his friend group.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

So so that was neat. And but it's completely different in the second season because the second season revolves around like a painting being burned and and uh certainly.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

So there's like a divergence. It goes Rodney Dangerfield in that he's going back to school as an uh assistant or as a professor of engineering. I don't think that's he has any like skills in that.

SPEAKER_01 5:03

Yeah, he he poses that he's going to be a new professor and even hires a personal assistant, I think, in episode four. Oh, does he?

SPEAKER_00 5:10

But yeah, uh basically, yeah, the the whole idea is that they wanted to retain the mystery element where this 77-year-old Ted Danson could mix in with a lot of people around his age and stuff, because other people, other professors are kind of old too. Right. And uh and and find out what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Ben Collins, and I'm not gonna try and butcher his name, but he's he's played by the man from Goodnight and Good Luck. It's like David something. Again, I can't say his last name. Yeah. I thought that he was actually my favorite character in this season. It's funny because he's not a character that is necessarily uh funny. Like he's not given a ton of funny lines, but he's so good in his role. Like whenever he's talking about how much the college means to him in episode four, when uh Ted Danson's character Charles is trying to find a riddle, or he's like toasting the teachers, I think, in episode six. Like, whenever they focus on him, it seemed like not only was he the most morally right character, but he was just so good in like actually he was just such a good guy that even though he hated the main character, he was my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 6:10

So here's my question to you is you've been to college and you graduated, and so did I. But like, did you had your favorite professors and your least favorite professors? Do you think this guy would have been one of your favorite professors?

SPEAKER_01 6:23

Uh yes, because actually my favorite professor in uh yeah, it was a professor of English. And then here I think he's also the professor of like literature or something like that. Is it yeah?

SPEAKER_00 6:33

Yeah, so I so I But he's very snooty about it, and he's curmudgeony and he like takes he thinks people are stupid around him.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

They also use him very sparingly though, but just very strange. I mean, maybe his schedule is that way. Yeah, I think he's probably just so famous that they were like, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

Did you think that he was the one who was so the overall mystery is that instead of there being a theft like a necklace, instead there was a big donation that was gonna come from a big Elon Musk type figure.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

Yeah, played by Gary Cole. He's always playing the dick. His name Except for MVP. MVP is kind of a mix. I've only ever seen him play the dick, but he was Brad Vennick, that's his name in the show, and it was a$400 million donation that he was gonna give the Wheeler College.

SPEAKER_00 7:09

Let's round up to$500. So I would just say half a billion. Just make it easier. He is he's about to give half a billion dollars to the college, but he has his own demands, right? And the person he's making the demands to seems like they're willing to submit to them, right? Like the dean of the college, Jack Baringer. Yeah, Jack, he he seems like he's not smart enough, has and he also doesn't care enough about his faculty to really um push back when the guy says, I'm gonna come in and I'm going to fire half the staff and I'm going to get rid of the liberal arts program.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

That was kind of revealed, like it was it was a plan that became more revealed as the season went on. You don't learn what the real plan was until episode seven.

SPEAKER_00 7:47

Yes. So Project Aurora, which is what I was just describing, that's not apparent from the get-go. At first, you just think there's someone trying to prevent a a a very nice benefactor of a billionaire from giving away money to the school.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

There was a ceremony that was celebrating him. There was a painting that they were going to give him, um, just you kind of uh to honor him. To kissing up to him, though.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

Yeah, give it-I think it's like the honorary degree that they give anybody who ever makes a giant donation. You know, they they make the wing of a different department.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

But what happened was that when they opened it up to show the painting, there was a note that said something like uh he basically just saying that he was a dick and that no one should trust him. And then they all run outside. Everyone that was at the ceremony, a painting is being burned, and they're trying to figure out for a majority of this season who wrote the note because whoever wrote the note was the one that burned the painting.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

Uh, so they're trying to connect the evidence. By then, though, they'd already hired Charles to be the PI. So he should have seen or been paying attention to what was going down with that painting.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

Because there was a stolen laptop. We didn't mention that.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

But yeah, that's that's that's what got them initially like a little bit scared that some that someone was trying to stop the donation from going through. So Charles is at that function, but then he gets distracted. How does a 77-year-old man get distracted? Well, of course, with his real life wife, you know?

SPEAKER_01 9:03

Mary Schemberger, the last time I saw her, or probably only one of the only things I've seen her.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Her name's Mona in this, right?

SPEAKER_01 9:08

Mona, yes. Uh, she was shooting Scott Grimes through her purse and Justified. I know she plays the villain in season six.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Joan of Arcadia, um, stepbrothers, the the mom and that, the stepmom and that, or something. So much, right? Yeah. Yeah, she's been around forever. Anyway, so yeah, so she is is the person who distracts uh Charles, but not on purpose. I guess they just kind of hit it off. And she is the um music teacher. Music teacher, but she's also like she was at Woodstock, she said. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

She's had a crazy career. She even sings in episode seven, goodbye, baby. That song. Did she do a good job with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thankfully, because they could have easily messed that up where it was just like a 70-year-old singing, but she still has a good voice to her. Um, but yeah, and and they also get together like right away, right? Yeah, they're making out. Yeah, end of the first episode, and that continues throughout.

SPEAKER_00 9:55

They, I was like, also spells the beans to her.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Yeah, episode two, he did. That was probably one of my favorite parts of the season. He's just, he's not comfortable with lying to her. So straight away he's like, Yes, I'm a PI, I'm investigating this college, I'm trying to see what's happening. I thought that there was a chance that they were going to try and pull a twist at the end where she had something to do with it. I was glad that the series didn't go that direction. I mean in episode three, they give you the thing where she's cleared because she said that she was stuck in a music room as the painting was being burned, and we see a list that shows that. But I was like, did she like somehow try and plan this thing? And no, she's not part of it.

SPEAKER_00 10:31

I think they also give you some red herrings because she has this thing where, like, when you're talking to her, she'll just walk away for an extended amount of time.

SPEAKER_01 10:38

She has a song in her mind.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

And she says that's because she's writing that way, and uh, she gets distracted. And so I thought they were going to like explain that while she was doing that the first time that they met, that she was actually like setting up the fire that that ended up taking down the portrait. And so I was fully on board with her being evil. And then the second episode, when he just spills everything to her, I was like, oh, now she can tell whoever she's working with and they can plan around him, and that's how the rest of the episodes are gonna go. Didn't turn out that way. However, it's not like it took a completely unpredictable route because by the time you start to figure out what's going on, how many episodes are you in?

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Uh well, it it really the the full thing was shown at the ending, but two through six were just a lot of interviews and different people that it could have been. Like at first, they think it's Professor Elizabeth Mookie, the head of the fine arts department. Then they learned that the donation that was going to be sent was going to uh protect the art museum so it couldn't be her.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

When do they find out that like the uh arts, all of the art programs were at risk if this guy became that was episode six where you learn that Project Aurora, you don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

It's fairly late. Yeah, and then Project and then episode seven at the very end is when they actually get all the details. Yeah. All right, I okay, keep going. And then Max Griffin at the very end of the second episode, uh Charles is investigating because they know that whoever wrote the note used a fountain pen. He's trying to go to the kitchen to figure out if any of the uh any of the markings is like the marking on the note. And Max Griffin is there, the journalism professor. He's acting very strange, but then we learn in episode three really it's because he's living at the university and he steals food from the kitchen.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

And then they're just how poor they are.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

And then like we were kind of talking about.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

I did have a teacher in school in like seventh grade who would uh seventh grade. Yeah, in seventh grade when I was in in uh some sort of science class, and in the between classes for lunch, he would have ramen and the kids would make fun of him, and he would come right back and be like, Yeah, this is what I have to eat, because I'm like this is literally all I got.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

Yeah, that was that was that was kind of what we learned. Yeah, I think in episode three, what they gave Max was it was a gambling addiction, so he turned really poor and then had to live at the university and eat the food there. Mona, again, we kind of talked about a little bit, but in episode three, they need to verify her claim that she was stuck in the music room.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

So they do do their due diligence.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

Right. Do do do and then episode four, uh Charles hires Claire. Claire was a waitress during the event, she was a student at the event uh as the personal assistant.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

And they don't think I don't think that's Claire is also the person in the first episode that everybody seemed to know the person who was giving out the hordeurs, and for some reason, even Gary Cohen's character, Gary Gary Cole. Yeah, Gary Cole's Brad Bennett, yeah. Brad Bennick's character knew who she was.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

Yeah, it was just weird to me. And she ends up giving them information because the person she her roommate is connected with an anonymous email account called Wheeler Guardian, so they might have some some stuff. Uh episode five didn't have anything to do with it, it was actually a Thanksgiving episode.

SPEAKER_00 13:33

That was Did that take place back at the first season?

SPEAKER_01 13:36

Uh no, no, no, no. This was at just a house that kind of everyone was invited to.

SPEAKER_00 13:40

Do are we getting at least? Because I know the second part of that PI program, Julie is working to find out her own mystery.

SPEAKER_01 13:47

That was the biggest uh thing in episode five is that Julie and Vanessa they had like a big falling out, and that's where we learned that Vanessa went to jail when like Julie was 11 years old.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

That's what you're talking about, the her and her mom. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The PI and her mom. I was talking about at uh the whatever Oaks, the place that he was from. Pacific View. Yes, while Pacific View, they're working on that case. Is anything coming about with that?

SPEAKER_01 14:12

Not really. In fact, like in episode two, we don't see a lot of Stephanie Beatriz or Dee Dee because I think she said that she had like vacation time for like eight weeks or so. And so so she shows up kind of uh frequently throughout the series, but she's not like I think as big a part as she was in season one. Right.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

Are you but are you supposed to believe that the P.I. Julie and um Dee Dee that they're like together, that they're gonna eventually like they hint at it at the very end of the season.

SPEAKER_01 14:39

They might be thinking about it. There's a romantic thing going on. Yeah, but they're but they're not actually together quite yet. And then in episode six, they think, okay, we are kind of running out of suspects here. We need to interview Venic's influencer wife. She might have been a reason. She might have been the one to be part of this whole plan.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

And she ends up the way she was introduced. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

So we thought it was going to be her daughter because uh Brad Vennick is introduced. He turns around and he says, Oh, it look, it's my wife and daughter. There was, yeah, there was a really young woman and a really old woman, and you think he's gonna kiss the old woman, and then the young woman walks up to him and kisses him, and that ends up being the stepmom to the uh to his job.

SPEAKER_00 15:17

She reminds me a little bit of Superman, the one who likes Jimmy, Jimmy Olsen.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

Yes, yes, almost like that. Let's let's Luther's blonde hair completely into social media. She ends up talking about uh Aurora because she thinks Aurora is a woman that Brad Bennick is cheating on her with. And then that's when we see at the very end of the episode, Andrea Yee, professor of economics, uh Julie kind of confronts her and she's like, Aurora, I'm not sleeping with Brad Bennick. Project Aurora is just a plan that's going to change all of Wheeler College.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

As soon as you find out though, that Project Aurora is just him firing all the liberal arts program. Did you not like part of you think this has to be all the professors teaming up to then take this deal down?

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Yeah, yeah. Especially when they were like going to everyone and they were like, There's there's these types of this is the reason why it might be this person. I was like, it's probably going to be all of them. It's going to be like a murder on the Orient Express type of scenario. Yeah. And but episode seven was probably my favorite. It's also, I think, the longest out of the whole series because it was 36 minutes. But everyone is given, I feel like, something to do this episode, have their shining moment because they're trying to take Brad Vennick's phone. And it's this entire like kind of spice parody or spy parody where Charles, Julie, Mona, Calvert, Virginia, and Elliot. Virginia and Elliot have to uh have to try and distract Brad Venick. Well, I think Julie is going to take the phone, and then uh Calvert is also just going to be doing lookout. But I thought that it was a really funny episode because everyone got their own moment. By the very end of it, they are able to actually steal his phone, and they uh and that's when they learn what Project Aurora is. And then episode eight is all about who did it. And who did it? Uh, it turned out that Holly, Hawley was the assistant to Jack, the president of the college. She was the one.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

Oh, you're going right to the actual who did it. Because it starts with who took the blame? Ben Collins. So the curmudgeony professor, he said, I'm retiring anyways, and so it was me. I'm so smart.

SPEAKER_02 17:18

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

At first, they blame it on Jack. They think that the person, the dean himself, was up for a promotion somewhere else, and he didn't want to risk that by showing that he didn't care about liberal arts.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

Because, yeah, the whole entire plan was that they were going to fire everyone. So they got it wrong.

SPEAKER_00 17:33

Yes. And so they blamed it on one of the few people it wasn't.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

And when Ben Collins ended up saying it was him, not only was I suspicious that it wasn't, but it reminded me a lot of like Murderville, the Christmas special, where they didn't even like uh try to guess who it was. It was just the person just came out and straight said, like, I was the one to do it. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And um, yeah, so he decides that he's going to take the blame. But then when they're really looking at the uh case, I think a couple months later.

SPEAKER_00 17:59

I think it's more like Mona asks or she gives uh Ted Dance's character an ultimatum. Yeah. She's like, go away with me, and yeah, you won't be able to see your nursing home friends again, and you won't be able to see your daughter. I mean, you'll be able to zoom with them, but we're pretty old already, so let's spend the rest of our years kind of.

SPEAKER_01 18:16

One of the best lines I thought she was given was I think it was a wholesome line, but she was like, We have more summers behind us than we do ahead of us. Yeah. And I was like, No, that's a good line.

SPEAKER_00 18:26

It's probably taken from somewhere else. But yeah, uh there, in fact, I think there were other lines because the good place was so, especially in the last couple episodes and seasons, was so like philosophical, you know. There were certain things that they like recycled. There was Chidi had several moments. I think they definitely paid homage to that in the last couple episodes. For those who still like that show who haven't seen it, I know we're ruining a lot of the plot stuff, but if they want to see a lot of the Easter eggs, I don't want to quite jump into those.

SPEAKER_01 18:54

I saw an article saying that they like did a lot of those references to the good place in this season.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

You got like Veronica Mars showing up in one of the episodes at the end of so uh Charles he he decides not to go with Mona, right?

SPEAKER_01 19:07

Yes, that was the he he he at first he was like, Yes, I'll go with you. And then I think he talks to Emily and he just kind of realizes like he's like it won't work.

SPEAKER_00 19:15

Yeah, I don't know if it wouldn't work, but or if he just he feels like he doesn't want to risk the relationship he now has with her and everybody else, his best friend and the book club that he's a part of. He does feel like it's necessary to go in and explain that he has solved the case correctly, figured out it wasn't just what's his face, the Kurmajmi guy.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

It wasn't Ben Collins, it was Hawley. Yes, Hawley was working with a ton of professors, but she was the one to write the note.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

She was also the one to uh to burn the painting and to overhear that this guy's project was to get rid of all of them. And so she and they didn't want to get her fired, so what's his face took the fall. He goes and visits him, and when he leaves that guy, he gives him a note and he says, Go check out this uh nursing home and make this and make this delivery for me. He's not saying go join up because he knows the guy would never do that, but then he leaves through the other door, I think. And the way that he leaves with the bright light and everything, because he's playing sort of a demon slash angel character in the good place, it just definitely reminded me of like, oh, maybe that was what they were kind of hinting at. So interesting part of the show. How does it end?

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Yeah, so Ben Collins he brings the letter to Pacific View and he gives it to Didi. Didi reads it and it says something like, uh, make sure take care of him. He just for this guy. Yeah, and then he ends up actually staying at Pacific View and joins the book club. And I mean, we even see a quick scene.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

She shows her like maneuverability because she takes that second and it's like, hey, could you design our bookstore or whatever for us, our library? And so he he stays on, and the last thing we see is yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

Yeah, they're having a book club meeting, and the person that was so mean to him in the first season, yeah, and Ben Collins uh get are both like kind of uh two crouchy old men. Yeah, insulting Charles the whole time. Probably again one of my favorite jokes throughout the What are you doing here?

SPEAKER_00 21:00

You don't even live here, that type of thing. Yeah, so would you want to see another season?

SPEAKER_01 21:05

Uh I think that you know it's such a light show, and uh, I don't think I'm ever going to hate it. Ted Danson is very, very likable. I also starred in 12 shows. They got yeah, and then like Stephen McKenley Henderson, and we didn't talk about Calbert a lot, but like that guy has starred since 2011 in nine Oscar-nominated movies, eight of them nominated for Best Picture. But it's funny because I know he always shows up just in like small, small roles and things, but it was fun seeing him as well.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

It's a feel-good show because everybody gets a happy ending except for maybe Apollo. Because what happens to Jason Manzucas? He has his hummus, he has his paint, and then they kick him out. Both were hummus, they kick him out, and then was he painting the house with hummus? Um, yeah, and it's so I I hope he comes back if they do get another season.

SPEAKER_01 21:50

I'm glad that Mona and Charles' story worked because a lot of the series spends a lot of time on it.

SPEAKER_00 21:56

I thought that the I did read some reviews that were a little anti-Mona for this season. Do you know why that would be?

SPEAKER_01 22:03

Maybe maybe they're just not happy for maybe because it takes up a lot of the story. I know that for a fact. The parts of the story that didn't work for me were really Julie. Julie and Vanessa, they take forever to solve things, and it seems like every single episode. Every single episode, they're always facing like uh Julie just being a bitch of Vanessa, and then Julie at the very end being like, I'm sorry, we need to work on this. And then it seemed to happen again just every single episode until the ending where they're finally deciding to watch Friends, I guess. Uh as much as I've liked as much as I know D D was in the first season, uh, she didn't really need to be in this season. She doesn't do a lot. Again, she's given kind of that small thing with Julie, but I didn't feel like that really even necessarily needed to be there. You also have old references, AI pictures not looking correctly. I know that Jack Braingeringer brings up Glee, and then Charles says things like Is it wrong to bring up Glee nowadays?

SPEAKER_00 22:56

Well, we have to change my scripts.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

I feel I I'm just saying that the references were old. Like even Charles says sus and eating and leave no crumbs.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

How is sus old at this point?

SPEAKER_01 23:06

That was good during the pandemic. I mean, all those three happen in like the span of 10 seconds, I think, in episode four. And yeah, the drama doesn't really work, but I'm going to give the show a six out of ten because I think the acting is good. There are funny moments in it, there's good places of heart, it's good enough to pass.

SPEAKER_00 23:22

The review reviews for season two have been fairly positive. Like it's it seems like it's trucking along there. The New York Times did say it falls into sort of the mid-tier TV like stuff.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

However, this is not this is not six session.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

You're never gonna hate it, right? There wasn't one episode where you were just like, oh my god, when will this end?

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Even episode five, which was my least favorite, had probably my favorite joke where the kids are playing uh this football game with the worm, but they're all worms, and then a worm scores a touchdown and it starts doing the worm. Yes. I love it. We see we see Charles even playing that game for a little bit in the final episode.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

That's hilarious. The uh yeah, it's like with shows like Phantasmas, which might get more attention, and like because it was the creator and also like the weird world that they they're creating the creator and the world world that they're creating. It at the same time, there will be episodes where you're just like frustrated, like how can you just pull your hair out being like, End please, I just don't I don't like this. Um and with these type of very like basic stuff, but with people who are likable and and I guess plots that are interesting enough, um, the y you'll never find a reason not to enjoy it if you have the time. Way better than Mr. Mayor. I remember when we did Mr. Mayor, I did not like that series. Poor thing, because uh like Bobby Moynihan should appear in this, you know. But that would help. They should bring the whole well uh cast Vesta now. Thanks for listening. We'll see you in the next episode. Hope you enjoyed this one. Bye. Bye.