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A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms (PILOT)
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HBO kicks off its 2026 slate by returning to Westeros. Set ~90 years before Game of Thrones, A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms follows Ser Dunk, a hedge knight who might technically not be a knight, and his squire Egg, as they set out to compete in the nearest tourney.
In the podcast, we break down the 50-minute pilot to see if this midquel can stand on its own without the heavy sex, drama and action of its predecessors. We also talk comparisons, highlights, ways the show could improve, and our overall rating. Tune in and welcome to Today's Episode!
Welcome to today's episode, the podcast where we discuss the most recent installment of a different series every show. It is Tuesday, January 20th, and just like the last show we reviewed, Star Trek New Fleet or whatever. Starfleet Academy. Starfleet Academy, this series, A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms, has already been renewed for season two. Yeah, a couple months ago, and they've already started filming it in December of 2025. They actually released A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms a few months ago as well. What they did was it was one of those Yule logs. And instead of having it be Night with a K, it was literally just the fire. And that fire made an appearance in this first episode that came to the end with Egg and Sir Dunk.
SPEAKER_02I actually I actually didn't catch that till now. This was supposed to be released at the end of 2025. In fact, the idea for this TV show came all the way back in January of 2021.
SPEAKER_01I wouldn't have been surprised if you told me this has been in the works for since the beginning of like season three of Game of Thrones.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, no, definitely. Even back in November of 2021, Stephen Conrad, the creator of Patriot, Ultra City Smiths, and writers of movies like The Pursuit of Happiness and The Secret Life of Walter Midi, we bomb up before he was attached to it. And then April 2023, it was officially ordered, and then Stephen Conrad's name was dropped. And then yeah, they filmed it early 2024. But do you believe uh what HBO said in its launch trailer, which is that this is supposed to be the biggest year yet for HBO? Yes. Because yeah, we're already starting off with a Game of Thrones series, and it's only January.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, do you believe them when they say that season two is on its way? Like just because they're filming it, what do you think comes first? Elder Scrolls VI, George R. R. Martin's The Winds of Winter, or Avatar Four? Or the or this, the season two of A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms?
SPEAKER_02Uh, I would I don't know how far Elder Scrolls is into its game. It's it's gonna be a while.
SPEAKER_01It's gonna like 2029, I think. Yeah, I have hope for this. Well, if you look at like the past history, we do like to make fun of like Stranger Things for having those huge gaps. However, like you look at 2000, the year 2000, long time ago, six episodes of comedy that came out back then was coupling. And it took a year and a half for them to make another six episodes. You look at like brick and morty. Wasn't a couplings, couplings, yes. But and then you look at brick and morty, I know they had more episodes in the first season, like 11, but they were shorter episodes, and it took them like a year and a half before they came out with season two, and uh even longer to come out with season three.
SPEAKER_02The break between season three and season four, I think, was one of the longest.
SPEAKER_01So I think it's more forgiving, honestly, for comedies to take longer. And I don't know why that is, but like that's not a new phenomenon like the drama, like we're not gonna have 24 episodes per season. Comedies, it feels like, at least in certain parts of the world. Now, not all of them get the same budget that I assume this got. This probably has a ton of money behind it, right?
SPEAKER_02Well, I mean, I I don't think it has as much money as something like Game of Thrones did or even House of the Dragon.
SPEAKER_01Right. And so this felt a little bit like a refreshing take on stuff because I've watched Avatar 3 recently, I've watched Stranger Things season five, the finale recently, filled with melodrama, heavy spectacles. And this was like, we're just gonna have a jaunt through the Middle Ages.
SPEAKER_02Not only that, the runtime is significantly shorter here. Yeah, so let's start with some differences right off the bat. The tone for this series is way lighter than Game of Thrones and House of the Dragons. It's based on novellas, not novels, which are longer than short stories, but shorter than a novel. Thank you for defining it like Animal Farm or something. I just for people that didn't know. There's no magic dragons or big battles, at least yet. And the episodes are supposed to be less than 40 minutes. I think this one is an exception because it's about 50.
SPEAKER_01And if you're looking for a ton of production notes or like history of the actual books, what's going on in them, then you have the actual podcast that they make and that they advertise at the beginning of every single episode of this, along with the game that they've now made for this series as well.
SPEAKER_02I have never seen a HBO series. They always say tune into the accompanying podcast, but now, yeah, there's like a game and there was there was something else, I think.
SPEAKER_01It reminds me of like the beginning of YouTube when it when it used to just be one YouTube subscription, and then people started being like, and then add on to my Google Plus account or subscribe to Twitter, subscribe to like all that stuff that when it started compounding, and it just feels like at a certain point, uh, HBO is gonna have to like pull it back because right now they're at three different advertisements for the thing they're about to show you, and then at the end they show you another trailer, and then after that, they just have the cast describing what you've just seen.
SPEAKER_02Those are those are some deep cuts though. Cake I haven't thought about since like 2016. But no, I agree with you. There was like every single time you tuned into an HBO Max show in this past month, this trailer would play.
SPEAKER_01Yes, no, they did, I think, good with the marketing. It is one of the most anticipated shows of the year. So let's talk about it. The first episode is 50 minutes. It's called the Hedge Night. It's that's the same name as the novella. And I imagine a person just literally defending a hedge. Like it was just a guy stationed outside of a hedge. They kind of make jokes of it. They're saying this is kind of like the commoner's night, someone who can't afford to live it up like in a kingdom or something. Yeah, it's a mid-quill, so it's right between House of the Dragon and the original Game of Thrones. It's around, I believe, a hundred years before Game of Thrones. I thought that was the I thought that was uh the other one.
SPEAKER_02I thought that that was House of the Dragons. Well, no, no, so around a hundred years before Game of Thrones and then House of the Dragons, it's about 70 years after that.
SPEAKER_01It makes sense because we do see some of the legacy players from different people. I know in House of the Dragon it was all about the Targaryens, but in this we have uh Baratheon, like the great grandfather, Lionel. Um, and uh what what else do I want to say about that? Oh, the first season of House of the Dragon I enjoyed very much, and then I kind of stopped watching it. Game of Thrones I saw throughout, so I had a whole one thing about George R. R. Martin uh Westeros type shows is that they tend for the first season to be very good. Yes. So I would believe, if uh all going according to plan, that this should be very good. Have you read George R.R. Martin's most recent interview though? Because I'm sure they're talking about it on all the George R.R. Martin podcasts. He came out and he said, I and the showrunner of uh House of the Dragon do not get along, not in the slightest. He followed, like they were friends in season one, and then the guy ditched Martin. He was like, get out of here. I'm not gonna take your notes. You have to give me your notes with the network, and I'm not even gonna talk to you. So like he's off the show, and then they asked him to come back in, but he's still like not. And what's funny is I've heard House of the Dragon has fallen off because of it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, no, I I heard season two wasn't as good as season one. Didn't that say didn't like something similar happen with the original Game of Thrones 2?
SPEAKER_01I know there was a bit of a fallout. I don't think he talks about that as much. This one he's seen like kind of soured by because he was like, this isn't even my material anymore. Well, I mean in season one, he really liked.
SPEAKER_02So I I'm kind of on his side. Oh, with with House of the Dragon. Yeah, House of the Dragon, yeah. I know that a Knight of the Seven Kingdoms was actually the name also of season eight, episode two of Game of Thrones. Yeah. So it was a backdoor pilot. And definitely George George R.R. Martin, he has worked on this one. Like I believe Ira Parker. He he gave Ira Parker or Ira Ira Parker. He gave Ira Parker like 12 uh unpublished short novellas just to make sure that they weren't going weren't going to run out of material.
SPEAKER_01And also to make sure he could read. Okay. So should we just say like this is about a simple dude? He's named Christoph, and he has a reindeer, and they set out for an epic adventure. Wait, what? Frozen.
SPEAKER_02You I thought you'd recognize it. I mean, I do, but like, yeah, no, don't. All right, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01Uh, it's about a tournament, right? A guy from a small town, Robin of Loxley, he goes in, he needs to win this thing because he wants, he gets a glimpse of May Marion, and he's like, that's it.
SPEAKER_02That is exactly what I thought. Because both iterations of Robin Hood, even the one that came out last year when it first started, because I remember those two episodes, at least I saw it was about him trying to join a competition. But as we got more into this episode, it reminded me of the 2006 TV series because I felt like it was a similar tone.
SPEAKER_01Well, they certainly are costumed uh in a in a way like that. But um, yeah, it's about a guy who wants nothing more to than to prove his worth to himself and to others and as well as others, even if his credentials are a little bit shady. His name is Jimmy McGill. He's a lawyer. Need a will call Jimmy McGill. That's a better call, Saul guy.
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SPEAKER_01Okay. That was before his thing. Did you ever finish that series? No, I only ever saw the first. My point is like this obviously is bringing in a lot of like things we've seen before. But the nice thing about a pilot episode is that your expectations are such where it's just his character that you're focused on. Yes. You don't know who this corresponding cast is going to be. So it feels refreshing because you don't have to feel like with Stranger Things at the end where everybody needs their due time. He's the only one who needs time.
SPEAKER_02It reminds me a little bit of um, and I thought this was better than that, but of Tulsa King, where it was like the pilot episode of that, it was kind of everyone surrounding Sylvester Stallone, and you saw how he interacted with everyone.
SPEAKER_01He's carrying around a sword in that and everything. Yeah. So Sir Dunk, you said it before, he's not a dunce, but he isn't like the smartest tool in the shed, I would say. He's certainly not a little finger. Oh, yeah, no, definitely not as maniacal. And it's funny because like three separate times, I think, in this episode, people approach him expecting him to like be a calculating, manipulative son of a bitch, you know, like just the classic Game of Thrones in uh he's out for himself. But instead, as soon as it's apparent to them that he kind of just is this humble guy who wants to grow up and become a knight, they they feel bad for him. You see that happen with the prostitutes, you see that happen with the guy who was spitting constantly, trying to get him. He actually tries to help him get into this tourney.
SPEAKER_02Well, I thought I really liked how it started off because for the first three minutes, you're thinking you're thinking to yourself, yeah, he's burying his old mentor. I believe that's Sir Arlen, a penny tree. We're gonna be seeing more of him in the TV series.
SPEAKER_01So backflashes. Yes. And I like how he has a penny in his sword. Yes. They made a big point about that.
SPEAKER_02But it's funny because he's he's uh burying him, and you're thinking to yourself, okay, this is probably going to be like some dark story. And I was waiting for it to turn light, and I really enjoyed that that that section that they did where they had the Game of Thrones music in the background. I was expecting to see the full-on intro, being like, thank God they kept the song, and then they cut to him defecating in a tree, and I was like, perfect. That perfectly describes what I feel like the tone of this series should be.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I I mean that was a hilarious joke. I agree. But I do want to say that grave was super shallow. Like you remember in Pluribus, the day after, how the wolves were going after the body. Yeah. And in I think episode two. I feel like the wolves are gonna get to that guy so quickly, uh, especially the dire wolves.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, I mean, but it was it was only it was only buried by like one person. So I understand.
SPEAKER_01And before we get the real big critics um jumping in on that, I know that dire wolves are only past the wall at this point. Like it was a big deal when uh when the Starks found them inside the wall. So yeah, it wouldn't be done that that find them. However, yeah, the the the thing about him crapping everywhere, right, is that this show or any of the Game of Thrones shows have never really shown the reality of a middle-age diet. Um, and I mean like the Middle Ages diet, yeah, where the lack of hand washing, the germs, no sanitation really. We see that lady filling up that glass for herself and then giving it to the guy later on. Yeah. So it's just a lot of unhealthy behavior, not a lot of hygiene, and it came back to bite him. He has dysentery.
SPEAKER_02You know, it reminds this, I think, is the most, even though this is the most medieval, I feel like Game of Thrones has gone before. I still feel like Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon was more mystical. I feel like this is the most fantasy driven. I feel like this is more kind of like the Winter King or like the Tudors or something, you know? Do you agree with that?
SPEAKER_01I mean, I remember when I was first watching Game of Thrones, it took quite a while before they showed like violence by sword. I remember even in the trailer for season one, like that little bit of the knights clashing swords that was in King's Landing, I believe, like that was about as much as that you got in the first season. A lot of it was Ned going around making different deals with people, you know, and like the adjustment of the kids. And it wasn't until the later seasons where the big explosions happened. And kind of in this episode, you do expect in this day and age for a pilot to end with a big explosive finale, but it it went by really quickly because of the jokes. And then at the end, it kind of just it before I thought it was going to, it just closed out with the credits because you are introduced to him uh joining up with egg. I want to say ed from the cowboy bee bot. No, egg, and then it just kind of pants to black as soon as they go to sleep. It was abrupt.
SPEAKER_02I was I was actually shocked that that was the end of the episode, but I think that it works really well because you can look at a lot of shows that have kind of the older person and the younger person, like The Last of Us, The Walking Dead, Daryl Dixon, even things like The Road. But I like how this is lighter because I feel this is more like Sweet Tooth with the amount of heart that it has in it, which is not something that I thought that I would say about a Game of Thrones TV series.
SPEAKER_01The main character is supposed to, like Sir Dunk is supposed to appeal to that. He does look like Kristoff from Frozen. Like his haircut is the same. Um I did not get that. I did not think about that while I was watching it. So we've talked about it defying expectations. I think the family resemblance between Lionel, who is this sort of skinny guy, he's known as the laughing storm, played by Daniel Ng, right? From everything for the gentleman with his chicken outfit. Just it's Dan from uh Sex Education.
SPEAKER_02Also from Black Mirror and the Crown. He's in so much. He's like a main character in The Gentleman.
SPEAKER_01I'm glad to see his career really taking off. He has a funny personality, but he is so much different because Robert Baratheon also had a sense of humor, but he was a big guy, jovial dude. He was not jumping around dancing like we see Daniel Aang in this show.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think that there's definitely an evil side to him. Like I assume he, if I had to make my prediction, is going to turn into some type of villain because he's kind of holding the seat of power right now. But I agree with you. I was glad that he wasn't just so black and white. There was definitely a sense of humor to him and charisma that Daniel Engs bought to the character.
SPEAKER_01It really is hard to screw over the hedge knight though, because he's he doesn't have much. I mean, you could take his three horses, but he uh he, as he said, that would only last him a couple years anyway. So it's not like I mean more when he gets into the actual tournament.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, when he's like probably, you know, making it to the very end of it. Because that's gonna happen at some point. I don't know how, but it probably will.
SPEAKER_01I mean, we're so used to seeing the characters change throughout every season, very dynamic. But but he seems like the type where at the end of six episodes, he could be just like, again, walking down a road with egg and uh and going on to his next adventure. Like you said, novelas uh or or or whatever, like they're short stories. So this guy could be like a Sherlock adventure type thing, where you where it's less about how he advances and the overall arc of the storyline and just more just he does the same thing every time.
SPEAKER_02You think he's going to be kind of a static character? I have no idea.
SPEAKER_01Well, I'm just saying in terms of prediction. I do think but they introduced us to a love interest really quickly during that play scenario where she came out there, wasn't one of the prostitutes. But what was interesting about that is that they had a dragon, and it was the first time I'd seen them like kind of do the avatar thing where they go, it avatar the TV show where where they go in and they see them performing it.
SPEAKER_02Right. Well, you're talking about the play thing.
SPEAKER_01Because that was a really cool looking thing. Like that looks like the kind that they would take to a Chinese New Year and like show off to everybody there.
SPEAKER_02It was it was reminiscent, at least the play to me, of like season six, I believe, where Aria was whenever she would see them doing spiritual things for Game of Thrones.
SPEAKER_01So they did do it in Game of Thrones.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01But I don't remember Game of Thrones post-season four. I choose to forget everything that happened.
SPEAKER_02Just the good parts. No, it was inside uh but this was inside a tent, and this and that was outside, so that was the difference there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Uh, and then so he goes to Ashford and he's uh threatened that uh if you're not really a knight, we're gonna kill you, then it's all made uh light of. And then he finds, he's trying to get in touch with the person who had worked with his mentor, right? In order to get them to vouch for him so he can join the attorney. Manfred Don Darien, I believe. And he ends up seeing his son, right? Like it's not him uh who who he ends up talking to. And oh well, yeah, no, the the son, I think that's the son's not the one with gout, I don't think, the goutted toes or whatever.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no, no, no. But I'm saying I think that Manfred Don Darion is who the son is. Is that what he's saying?
SPEAKER_01All right, so he's been well then why does he have gouty toes? I don't think that that's the case. I think his dad and the son are there. Could be wrong about that. Point is that he does not get the permission from him, so you would think that he would then go to Baratheon and say, Hey, can you do me this favor?
SPEAKER_02Similar to something you heard in like Pillars of the Earth. I thought about that for a quick second after he rejected him, but I was thinking to myself that Lionel Baratheon, I don't think he's like in the mode to like even accept anyone. I think he's just kind of the person to get people in the door to be like, oh, he's actually here, but I don't think he's gonna be like recommending anyone.
SPEAKER_01Uh never say never. However, in Death by Lightning, um, you remember Gateau kept on thinking because he was hanging out with Chester Arthur that he was somehow his best friend. And so like he was trying to ride that into a place on the White House like cabinet. Um, it and it never worked out for him. This could be the opposite of that. It could actually work out for uh our Sir Dunk here. What did you think of Egg when they first introduced him? Did you think that he was going to be coming back?
SPEAKER_02I uh I knew that there was going to be a kid named Egg. I wasn't sure if it was him because it was a quick scene where he was. You couldn't tell by his head? By his shaved head. And in the interviews, he doesn't have a shaved head. So that was so that was what kind of confused me. So again, like Avatar. I thought it might have just been one of those things where they were like referencing that that was going to happen to a different kid later on, but no, it just ended up being him. I like Egg. I especially like the ending scene between the two of them. I think that they have good chemistry. It's what the show, I believe, is probably gonna rely on. Yeah. Why I would say it's a buddy comedy.
SPEAKER_01So I'll ask you right now, like, what would you give this pilot? An eight out of ten. I would give it an 8.5 out of 10. I really liked it. However, I do think there are things that could have made it better. I agree. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Well, the like we already mentioned, it really ended abruptly. I thought there was going to be more to it. Also, Raymond. He wanted that explosion. I well, no, not necessarily an explosion, but it's like he's not even in the tournament yet, and there's only six episodes to go, and they're gonna be pretty short. So it's like in terms of pacing, I just wonder how much mileage they're really gonna get out of it, how much of the tournament we're really gonna get.
SPEAKER_01Tournament is season two.
SPEAKER_02Maybe, maybe. Uh, but then you have Raymond Fossaway and Stefan Fossaway, the people that he runs into.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so I know that there's a bunch of names being thrown about that are probably from the story, like the overall story, besides Baratheon and Lannister. Those are the easy ones.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but Raymond Fossaway, he disappears midway through the episode. I was expecting him to actually be in it when he brings him to the play tent, but it was like after that, he just ends up leaving.
SPEAKER_01I thought it was I thought it was Raymond Derry. Okay, but I could be wrong about that.
SPEAKER_02I well, he's Raymond Fossaway is Steph on the street. There's a lot of Raymond. No, that's true. And then I also felt like the series was a lot of setup for something that like there was no real climax or major thing. So those are my problems with the.
SPEAKER_01Mine were were uh not that there were problems, but just things I think that they should take notes for. And that could have made this from a comedy to a super cool comedy. Okay. First of all, talking horse. You wanted Mr. Ed? No, he was talking to his horse. Well, what if the horse talked back, you know? But yeah, it could be in Mr. Ed.
SPEAKER_02I did like his King's Landing reference that I made at the very beginning because he was wondering about places to go and even asked the kid, like, are you from Flea Bottom or something like that?
SPEAKER_01Uh so a lot of different names that we should be aware of if you're looking at the map. Um yeah, no, with the horses though, I like his relationship with them. Um, and I think that if he just keeps on collecting them, it would be really, really funny. Like now it's three. Three seems like if he has too many more just by himself, it would have it would be like he's the horse guy.
SPEAKER_02But if he has like a dozen, it could be like Sam Slay, I was gonna say, or something where he just has eight and there's like one horse that's really leading the way. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You want to hear my second note? Yeah. Ditch egg. Ditch egg? Yeah, just ditch. How funny would it be if like every episode egg just kept on trying to join him and he just kept on ditching him?
SPEAKER_02Egg is the moralistic center. I do not, I do not agree.
SPEAKER_01Moralistic. I haven't seen him do one moral thing. He's the kid, he's the one that's supposed to be kind of like the innocence that's he represents him, and so how funny would it be if he kept on trying to run away from himself, you know? Um, I would think that maybe an unexplained cameo from either of the other series. I would not want that in any way. It would make it funny, it would make it funny, it would also make it way worse. How crazy would it be if Arya just like popped in there? Maisie Williams, where are you doing? What are you doing right now?
SPEAKER_02You want like the Winchester's Dean Winchester to show up?
SPEAKER_01I'm thinking more like Richard from Lost, you know, how he just kept on appearing in every timeline and it took a really long time before they explained that he like okay. Also, they instead of HBO giving us the real trailer at the end, which like spoils so much about the future, especially if the future is only five more episodes. Instead, give us a fake trailer. You know, that would be show show dunk dying.
SPEAKER_02That would be so smart because actually, even though this has gone good reviews, massive, massive backlash of the trailer, negative reviews across the board for the trailer after the trailer. People do know they can turn off their TVs. No, I mean they say that like they played afterwards, like right afterwards, and that's the void right afterwards. It spoiled practically the entire thing. I would consider it as akin to like Batman v Superman trailer when that came out in 2015 and basically gave away the whole movie. People said the same thing for this.
SPEAKER_01But the egg on their face, no pun intended, is that uh if they realized that that actually was just a bullshit trailer. That would be that would be genius. And the last point I have to make is more of like an overall where I hope the series ends up, is that this is actually the story of how we meet one of the famous White Walkers. You know, we already know about the main White Walker, but what about that one that Sam took out? Like, who knows? It could be Sir Dunk. I don't think we need a hedge walker. I know, you know, because a hedge knight turned into a hedge walker. Somehow he ends up on the other side of the wall.
SPEAKER_02There are obviously Easter eggs, but I don't think that the show should even try to explain anything from Game of Thrones. This is so far apart from that.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think that's kind of given. And and and it works for the show for sure. If I'm being serious, yeah. 8.5 out of 10. Again, George R. Martin has not had a bad first season of one of his television shows. So tune in with confidence for for this one. And uh, and you didn't like any of my notes?
SPEAKER_02I thought your notes were. The talking horse.
SPEAKER_01The talking horse, I think.
SPEAKER_02I I know, I am especially glad they didn't include that one. What if it's narrated by the horse?
SPEAKER_01You don't have to have it talk, but it just does the narration.
SPEAKER_02All right, it has an 88% on Raw and Tomatoes, and right now an 8.8 on IMDB. So I find that point, just all the eights.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, perfect. Um, thanks for listening. We'll see you in the next episode. Hope you enjoyed this one. I think the next one we're doing is Beauty. Yep. The beauty. And have you finished that comic yet? I have. All right. Well, we'll see you then. Bye. Bye.