What if you got your hands on a simple framework to navigate the often confusing world of health supplementation? We promise, not only a clearer view of this complex world but insights into revolutionary advances like DNA testing that guide our health decisions. This episode is a must-listen, featuring health expert and entrepreneur, Sang Kim, who lays bare his personal journey with supplements and the astronomical rise of his start-up, Rola Health.
Sang Kim illuminates the intricate relationship between our DNA and our health, and the transformative role it plays in personalized medicine. Delving into the cutting-edge science of DNA testing, we unravel the power of precision supplementation, where a one-size-fits-all approach is replaced with a tailored strategy, leading to quicker and effective treatment of symptoms. Furthermore, we contrast Eastern and Western medicine and stress the often-overlooked aspects of health like water filtration, testosterone levels and the vital role of exercise in maintaining our mental health.
Finally, we remind ourselves of the basics of health and the importance of caring for our bodies. We bring the conversation home by discussing everyday things like the food we consume, the harmful effects of certain chemicals, and the addictive nature of sugar. We recognize the significance of being mindful, making conscious choices, and the scientific benefits of practices like intermittent fasting. We underline that prioritizing our health is not just about longevity but about enhancing our health span and living our best lives. Don't miss out on this enlightening conversation!
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What if you got your hands on a simple framework to navigate the often confusing world of health supplementation? We promise, not only a clearer view of this complex world but insights into revolutionary advances like DNA testing that guide our health decisions. This episode is a must-listen, featuring health expert and entrepreneur, Sang Kim, who lays bare his personal journey with supplements and the astronomical rise of his start-up, Rola Health.
Sang Kim illuminates the intricate relationship between our DNA and our health, and the transformative role it plays in personalized medicine. Delving into the cutting-edge science of DNA testing, we unravel the power of precision supplementation, where a one-size-fits-all approach is replaced with a tailored strategy, leading to quicker and effective treatment of symptoms. Furthermore, we contrast Eastern and Western medicine and stress the often-overlooked aspects of health like water filtration, testosterone levels and the vital role of exercise in maintaining our mental health.
Finally, we remind ourselves of the basics of health and the importance of caring for our bodies. We bring the conversation home by discussing everyday things like the food we consume, the harmful effects of certain chemicals, and the addictive nature of sugar. We recognize the significance of being mindful, making conscious choices, and the scientific benefits of practices like intermittent fasting. We underline that prioritizing our health is not just about longevity but about enhancing our health span and living our best lives. Don't miss out on this enlightening conversation!
To Learn More about the DNA Test:
Website: https://www.thednacompany.com
Discount Code (10% off): Sangkim
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Hey, what's going on, guys? I'm super excited we have episode three of Health Is Wealth. You might have been seeing this happen over the past couple months, and what it is is it's Sang Kim. He's an expert in the health field. He comes out. We end up hopping on the conversation. Our first podcast was why Health, what's so important about it and why does it really lead to our wealth and then the second episode was on morning routines. And now this third episode is going to be the introduction to supplements. I'm very excited about hearing about this, because I've heard a little bit about it, but I don't know too much about it. Who can you trust? Where do you go? How do you handle these things? So I'll open it up. Sang, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm great. I just came back from Toronto, had a business meeting and got back to here London, ontario, and so excited to be here today and Jordan and talk about this conversation around supplementation and just an intro conversation, because it's very complex. There's so many out there. It's sort of like, okay, where do you even start? What's the best way to view it? Is there something called a health roadmap out there somewhere? Is there something, a guide? So how do we know which ones to take and what not to take, because we hear all this conflicting information.
Speaker 1:Absolutely so. I think what would be really beneficial is you sharing with the audience just how you even started down this supplement journey and what you know about it and how it's been integral into your life. And then we could dive into the different areas. But how did you even start thinking about supplementation? I know you can take it from there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, that's great Jordan. Yeah, and just to give you some context, I was a physical and health educator, phys ed teacher, many moons ago. I coached freestyle wrestling up here in Canada for 20 plus years. I coached at the national level. I've been a wealth manager for 23 plus years and then met Tony Robbins and my heart and soul came back into health.
Speaker 2:He is really health as wealth isn't it. And without health, what do you have? So now I'm back to what energizes me every day and really my personal mission is to inspire a billion people to take radical responsibility over one's health, and that comes about and manifest in different forms and different projects that I'm involved with. And, yeah, just so happy to be here. But most recently, my co-founders and I, we ran a startup called Rolla Health and we sold it to the DNA company at a Mississauga, ontario, canada. And the DNA company was founded by Kashif Khan and now is run by Tracy Wood and Neil Bernas and my other co-founders of Rolla Health, and they're doing an amazing job in promoting the benefits of getting a DNA test done through saliva, and it's remarkable how they're transforming the industry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what was Rolla Health? And then we'll dive into like, why DNA tests? What did these even do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so Rolla Health was a virtual care platform and we had the ability to process insurance claims in the US through the portal and it was connected to 24 seven nurse, triage and doctors, et cetera, so it was a small version of the teledoc of the world, right? Yes, so that back office is within the DNA company now and in the DNA company has exploded now with all the pieces that it has put together.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this is why I wanted saying to speak on this subject of supplements is because his company, literally his startup, sold to a DNA company and now his co-founders are running that DNA company. And why is the DNA so important? Because we all know we're all human right, so shouldn't we be the same, like shouldn't you supplement with and I supplement? Be the same.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know there's so much confusion around supplementation what to take, how much to take, when to take it and there are some general principles, but I've made a lot of mistakes with supplements because I'm a like a type A personality. Someone tells me to take vitamin D. Well, I take lots of vitamin D, right, you know, without really thinking about the downside, right? So for me personally, what's helped me in my thinking is okay, what's the upside, what's the downside, and can I live with the downside? Yeah, right, so it's kind of simple and you can use that sort of template or that mindset or that frame and apply it to a lot of decisions that you make in life. Right, obviously, that's very simplistic, but it at least gives you an initial framework and it should also be used with supplementation, right?
Speaker 1:100%. And the other reason I'm excited about this one is because, from my perspective, like I'm 27,. Probably by the time this comes out, I'll be 28. I like try to stay as far away from supplements at this moment in time, just because I don't even know what half of them do. I don't know if they're good, I don't know if they're bad. Are we taking multivitamins? Are we not Like I don't even know what's going on?
Speaker 1:And I have some of these people who are like, most of the time when you think about supplementation, like growing up, for me it was like, oh, if your parents aren't doing well, or if your parents, like, as you get older, you have more supplements, and like you see all these people with these pill bottles. But now there's guys like Brian Anderson. Did you hear about him? He's the guy, tech billionaire, who invested $2 million in his health. He's got all of these supplements he takes and he reduces age from like 45 to like 23 in one year. And I'm like, wow, he's got to know something that's going on. So I mean, where did your journey with supplements start and how do you think about them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think for me, my journey started as I started to compete in sports. Yes, so you know some of the basic supplements, like vitamin C, and you know occasionally the vitamin D, and you know the B complex, right, you know, and not so much with the fish oil, right, but it was like pretty basic stuff, right? Yeah, you know you catch a cold. Yeah, let's do a thousand, two thousand, five thousand milligrams of vitamin C and let's shock the cold, right, like, like, obviously none of this is medical advice. You know, as we're talking here, these are just personal experiences that we'll talk about, and I'm not a clinician, I'm not a doctor, so we're talking about personal experiences and other people's experiences.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. And like the really interesting thing is like, as I've started to grow up and realize different things, it's for me I've always relied on the mindset, but it's starting to become as we're entering 2024, it's becoming more prevalent that we are unique and we need to supplement for our own deficiencies and our own things. So explain a little bit about the DNA test and like why is that important? What does that even do?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, when you think about it, right, you know we've got what? Eight billion people on the planet, right, and yes, our DNA is similar, right. However, we have personal differences, right, and it's really interesting because you and I can have, we can be identical twins not that we're twins, but let's say we were twins, right. And if we were twins, right, so our genetics are exactly the same, right? Yeah, our genomes are the same, but our, you know, our genetics are the same, but our, you know, our phenotype or the way that we express our genes could be different, right? So let's say, let's say, you're really calm and you're not stressed, and I'm stressed to the wazoo, right? Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, guess what? That stress is going to act on my genes differently, right? Really, yeah. So even though we're identical twins, I have more stress in my life, and then I can turn on the bad genes or the suboptimal genes. Wow.
Speaker 2:And then those suboptimal genes get turned on and then I have these symptoms, xyz. I've got inflammation, I've got knee pain, I've got joint pain, and then you, the one that takes care of them yourself. You eat well, you exercise, you have regular sleeping hours, right, you hydrate right, maybe you do cold showers. You know you're doing a lot of the lifestyle and you live in an environment where you're free of mold. You're getting fresh air. Yes, right, you're not close to toxins in your environment. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right. So and then your bad genes don't get expressed, so you're not creating inflammation, whereas me I'm creating lots of inflammation, and the more inflammation I have in my body, right these genes are going to be expressed in a suboptimal or a negative way. Is that sort of makes sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I mean this is kind of a building on the breath work that we were talking about before. Yeah, when we spoke on in the last episode about breath work, we spoke about how when we do it, it reduces our stress level. Yeah, and so I mean for you, like how this is fascinating. I didn't even this is all new stuff to me. I had no idea how does so? So people might be acting in certain ways and cause to act in certain ways, due to their environment, which is infected, their genes, which is somewhat outside of their control. Like if you lived in a house with black mold, you'd realize it by coughing, but like your genes would be mutated from that point.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't say, you know, I wouldn't say mutated.
Speaker 2:I would say that your genes are going to be expressed in a suboptimal way because of the stress of the environment and toxins in your body. Right, so let's say you have the gene that doesn't detoxify external particles in your body. Well, Well, you're going to turn those on and then the symptoms can be expressed in so many different ways, right, yeah, your symptoms might be different than mine, right, you know. So this is where it gets very complex, right, and this is why you know that I'm so proud to be, you know, working with the DNA company and helping them in the sales area. And because you know, when you think about it, when you get your DNA tests done, all right, and the DNA tests will look at seven different categories like mood and behavior, mood and nutrition, exercise, immune health, hormone health, you know, detoxification and a lot of these main categories that we need to look at, right? So, as a result of the test, you can look at what genes are optimal and then suboptimal. Really.
Speaker 2:And then our practitioners at the DNA company can really nail down the pathways that are being affected. For you personally, right?
Speaker 2:So, this is precision supplementation, precision medicine, right, and we're able to help our patients much faster because we will know what the deficiencies are. So we know what to supplement, we know what to take away, what to add on, right, and it's a constant balance. And the body is so complex, right, but with this information we could be a lot more precise and help you deal with these symptoms much quicker than a blanket symptom. Like, you should take vitamin D3. Yes, we should all take some vitamin D3. But a lot of us, I mean we will need the vitamin K2 with the D3, so that the calcium doesn't build up in different places in our body, especially our arteries, right. So vitamin D is great, but what's even better is with the combination of K2, right. So, again, so that combination, that pairing, works really well and much better.
Speaker 1:So just so everyone understands, prior to even thinking about supplementing guessing, watching your favorite actor, actress, influencer say you should go start using this. We should all take a DNA test just to understand who we are Not just who we are, but what we actually do well with and to this extent, would this cause people to get angry and express poor, lower level emotions. Or you can overcome that, or it doesn't do that. Not the DNA test, but more of your symptoms. Say someone's angry all the time, You'll see that with their symptoms. Would they get better with the DNA testing or is it more of like?
Speaker 2:Well, I think put it this way With having your DNA tests and understanding where the suboptimal genes are, I mean, we have a better chance of figuring out what's going on right 100%.
Speaker 2:And most likely we'll find the answers much quicker than if you're just guessing and just doing things on random. So you can be a lot more precise. And then that's why it's important to have a clinician that understands your genetic profile. So this functional genomics test that we do, called the DNA 360, will dig really deep into your personal situation, right, and there's lots of different pathways and it's more complex than what people really think. So I'll give you an example.
Speaker 2:So I have a suboptimal gene for estrogen toxicity. So I've been on bioidentical hormones. I've been on a couple of different types of these bioidentical hormones. So there are creams right, testosterone and DHEA, and I've tested out two different types of creams right, and yes, they help. But with the DNA tests and a few other tests, I could be more precise in the way that I can deal with elevating my testosterone, naturally. But it was this journey of starting with the supplementation with the bioidentical hormone creams. First, because after the age of 40, a man's testosterone decreases quite rapidly, because we're eating all these foods that have hormones in it and the water in our systems have hormones in it, because it's very difficult to filter out the hormones with reverse osmosis and talking to sites.
Speaker 1:Honestly saying and this is why I continue doing these health as well segments with you is because, based on the last one, it literally got me to go buy a filter. Then I got a water bottle that does hydrogene or I don't even know what it is but it basically puts these bubbles into it, cleans it out and then you can drink it again. And it's just fascinating because when you start diving into all this, you drink some of the water sometimes and you're like why does it taste like so? And I never realized it until I stepped away. And then, when I stepped away, I'm like wait, that tastes really bad Because I don't even want to put it in my mouth unless it's filtered in some capacity. I'm not saying the burrito is the best, but it's a little bit better than it was before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely Like a simple carbon filter. I mean you can make it naturally out in the wild. If you had a plastic water bottle and you burned some wood, so now you got the carbon, you throw in some pebbles and you throw in some rocks and you could do it. You could filter out water Right, like if you're lost out in the woods and you need filtered water. You would do a pretty decent job by creating your own filter. Absolutely. Right, it'd be pretty good Right. Absolutely.
Speaker 2:That's all you had, instead of just drinking the river water on its own, depending on where you are, et cetera, but that's much better. It will take out a lot of the stuff that you don't want in your body. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah, the hydrogenated water. I mean it's great, I just ordered one myself, so it does. Yeah, so we'll test it out. Right, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 1:And then Sue tell us more. A little bit about the testosterone. I'm hearing about people that use TRT. Should men be doing this? Should women Like what? Is this even?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, the DNA test.
Speaker 1:Tell us about this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, absolutely Like the DNA test, will give us a lot of guidelines for our practitioners to use as a roadmap and also further tests for your hormones. So I've taken the Dutch test as another hormone test that we take through urine analysis and that's a really good one. There's blood tests for hormones as well and, yeah, in all these different assessments, they have to be used with a practitioner a functional medicine doctor, naturopathic doctor. There's a lot of great practitioners out there and you just have to find them. And if you really can't find one I mean, we have great practitioners at the DNA company, right, well, this is that can help you.
Speaker 1:Right, Like normal. It's like Eastern medicine, Western medicine, right? Those are a little bit of the differences where some of them are very quick to give you.
Speaker 2:you know what I'm talking about yeah, yeah, I think there's a full range right. But I think what's happening more so is that Eastern and Western medicine are slowly coming closer together. Yes.
Speaker 1:And what would you say? You've shyed is and like, what's the difference?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think, when you look at it traditionally, right.
Speaker 2:If you look at Western medicine, right, for decades and decades, western medicine had to deal with acute issues, right, you're having a heart attack?
Speaker 2:Well, let's go, right, let's go solve for that, let's revive you, right, yeah, modern medicine has done a great job with reviving the heart attack, so most people that have a heart attack survive now. Right, survival routes are through the roof, right, but the reality is that people are living longer, and I'm not saying healthier, right, because I'm saying, for the most part, people are living longer than, on average, than 50 years ago, right, yeah? So, like short term, I've seen some numbers where Americans lifespans have actually dipped down a little bit, right, really, yeah, yeah, so, but generally speaking, 50 years ago we lived to whatever 55, 60, 65,. Now it's 80, 82, 85-ish, right, yeah, obviously differences between men and women, right? So I think really we want to focus in on increasing the health span and the lifespan. So lifespan as in how long you're going to live. Health span as in let's stay healthy, how long you live in a healthy way mind, body and soul, right?
Speaker 2:To this journey right, and I think that's where the idea of Eastern medicine. Eastern medicine is looking at the whole body, is looking at finding the root cause instead of just treating the symptoms. Right, and there's a huge movement of people and I think people are becoming really tired of taking medication and the pills because it's masking the symptoms, right, and it's not so. I've seen some research on antidepressants, for example. Right, yes, people taking any of the presence, but they're still depressed. Right, they're still not happy. Right, because they did that study and they put people on exercise and actually exercise had a bigger effect in a positive way than people taking the antidepressants, right. So that is kind of like you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 1:So that's more of my train of thought, where it's like I'm hearing these people, they're giving kids medicine, they're telling them they have issues and all this stuff, and I'm like, no, I think it's that people have a lot of energy and they just need to use it in a positive manner instead of being inside most of the day, and that's where the last session of session two made a lot of sense to me. So what are the benefits of supplementation and what does it really?
Speaker 2:do? Yeah, you know what, and I think we got to back up a little bit too. Yeah, absolutely. So let's use that period of principle, that 80-20 principle, right? Okay?
Speaker 2:So if you look at the whole body, the whole picture and, I think, the supplementation, I think for the most part it's sort of like the last 20% of your health, but not in all cases, right? So I'm going to say, like, generally speaking, like if you're eating well, eat to your genetics, right. Like there's diets that work well for you and that don't work well for you, right, some people really work well with a paleo diet. Some people work really well with a keto diet, some people work well with a vegetarian diet, right? So you got to figure out what works for you and your body, right? Yes, so, eating properly, exercising daily, hydrating, well, right, yeah, what's your mindset? Focusing on what's great as opposed to what's wrong and what's negative, right? I mean, if you're doing the basics, exercise and obviously, sleep, right, yeah, making sure you sleep well, right, and following a routine to make sure you sleep well, right? I think we talked about the three, two, one sort of rule before sleep, right?
Speaker 2:Yes, I use that one a lot right, and these are little things that can really change that right. So eating whole foods and we've heard this a thousand times right, but I would say, eat towards your genetics and what makes your body work well, right.
Speaker 1:And you can figure that out.
Speaker 2:So would the DNA test help that Absolutely, because it will map out your whole body right. Okay, yeah, and working with one of our clinicians will really help to find some micro distinctions around that.
Speaker 1:Gotcha, so it's not even the DNA test. Use the DNA test for supplements, it's just. It can be used for that, but it can be used for just knowing yourself better.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, because it will address your mood and behavior, your cardiovascular health, your hormone health, your immunity, right? I mean it looks at the whole body, right, and remember one thing can affect so many different systems, right? Yeah, so for example, vitamin D, right, it's the only vitamin that can actually be produced by the body, right?
Speaker 2:You think about all the vitamins. Vitamin D is the only vitamin, right, and every single you know trains or cells, they all have receptors for vitamin D. Okay, that's how important vitamin D3 is, right. Every single cell needs it in some measure, right, in some amount, right, yeah, and it's essential, right, because vitamin D converts into a hormone once it's in the system. Oh, okay.
Speaker 2:So, yes, you know, we need the sunlight, and especially if you're north of the equator right, living in Canada, right, and the thing is, even if you are living near the equator, right, I mean, you're wearing sunblock. So how much vitamin D are you actually producing? Yes, okay, you know, and every time I've tested my blood for vitamin D, I've always been on, every single time, super, super low numbers for vitamin D, right, okay. So, you know, with the help of the DNA test and some of their clinicians, you know, I've been taking vitamin D twice a day now one in the morning, a bit in the morning, and then at noon-ish.
Speaker 2:And actually that's helping right. So I'll take another blood test and figure out if that's working right.
Speaker 1:So the DNA test might reflect that it's helping. But how do you feel in general? Like, does it make you feel better? Like, because I mean what everyone's chasing and what we always look for is like we have emotions we live in, we have feelings that we live with and we try to change those. And like, whenever people are happy, it's not that they're happy, it's the happiness emotion. It's that they're experiencing that elation of happiness or they're experiencing that calm emotion. Are the emotions you're feeling different or is like, do you feel the difference of?
Speaker 2:it. You know what I think. Sometimes when I'm supplementing, I'll notice a big difference, yeah, and other times I won't. But, and that's why I think doing some assessments like the blood tests will show you it's black and white. Right In a period of time, but I wouldn't say it's black and white, but it shows you in that particular time that you took the blood tests right. It's a moment in time. Yes.
Speaker 2:This is what happened, you know, on Monday morning at 8am and I fasted for 12 hours. Here are my numbers on my blood tests in that moment of time. Right Gotcha.
Speaker 2:That's the way you got to look at it. I mean, those numbers are going to stay like that for the next three months because it's that moment in time and all those things that have been happening to you recently, a few days ago and maybe even a week ago or a couple of weeks ago, so it's just that moment of time. Here are your numbers Right and it has to be interpreted.
Speaker 1:Right, 100%. So why do you think people are getting more involved in these, wanting to understand their body? I literally had three phone calls between today and yesterday where it's people who are in their 40s, 50s, 60s and they are focusing on health and longevity. These are not conversations you're usually having. They're just like I got to get my health in order. I want to be better Because, coming from your perspective, you're 54, I believe right.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to think about it. No, I'm 56. 56.
Speaker 1:But coming from there, from your perspective, this is what people are talking. You've probably been looking at this for years. Why do you think people are getting more interested in the body? Why are they seeing other perspectives? What's really been pushing this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what? I think one of the reasons is social media, and obviously there's pros and cons of social media, but in this context, let's say this is a positive right, this awareness and obviously there's money to be made in health and wellness as well, right, just like all the other industries, right. But I think one is definitely awareness. And then the other thing, too, is people. At the end of the day, people just want to feel like they have energy, people want to feel happy, people want to be able to go for a walk and really, I think human beings, we're designed, we've got two legs, we're bipedal, we're designed to move and walk, right.
Speaker 2:And if we don't move and walk, shit happens. Systems start to not work right? You think about it. You're able to walk every day and you look at the blue zones of the world. What do they do? Right? All those cultures, right? Well, they're walking everywhere and it's a part of their lifestyle. It's not, oh, I gotta go walk, do my 30 minute walk. No, no, they walk everywhere. Right, you know. They're walking to work, right. Or they're biking to work, right, you know what I mean. So we're designed to move and if we move our bodies, inherently, even if you're upset, you're probably gonna feel a little bit better if you're moving your body, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's the really ironic thing, because as everyone starts living their life, they wanna be. It's the seeking of comfort where it's gotta be the most comfortable situation, the best chair, the best car seat, the best that and it's like part of it's like, no like. Recently we got standing desk Me and my fiancee Madison. We just got a standing desk. Why I'm doing this podcast standing. I would never be standing during a podcast and sometimes I would get a little antsy, wanna like walk around, wanna do something. But I am standing and just when you build out that type of lifestyle, you get upset. Like post meal. I'm going on a 15, 20 minute walk every time. Why? Because I feel better. Like, why do we do these different activities? It's to seek us feeling better and understanding ourselves absolutely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know. Back to our conversation around. You know the context of overall health, right, like I think. I think you know doing the basics first, right, the tackling and the running first, right, let's get the basics down, right. You know eating whole foods and one of the big things is I see this a lot and people would make fun of me even like 20, 20 years ago. Right, it's like what? You don't wanna eat gluten? You know what? What you're too good for me, right? Yeah, all this, all this kind of stuff, right. So I would say, you know what? And the thing about bread is, you know the word enriched means that they're spraying folic acid onto our bread, right?
Speaker 2:So enriched bread isn't enriched. Folic acid is highly inflammatory to the body, so folic acid is in what it's in white bread. It's in brown bread, right? Yes, it's in pasta. It's like it's everywhere, right, so it's like okay. And then it's harming our gut lining, right, right, so it's breaking up that you know there's a saran wrap, okay.
Speaker 2:And then there's a material in our you know, in our gut lining and signs and that's like a protective barrier. So the folic acid is just gonna decimate it over time and, as a result, you get this leaky gut. And I've got leaky gut right All those years of eating KD and regular pasta right and having these chemicals in your body right. I'm feeling it now right.
Speaker 1:And this is the fascinating thing that and this is what I was also thinking about why people are also supplementing is because there's this stuff back in the day, because I always think about it like, oh, did the cavemen have all of these problems? Did they have to supplement it? Their stuff wasn't there, wasn't hormone sprayed on it, there wasn't all these chemicals on all of their foods. And why do you think foods can last for such a long time? And there's a lot of chemicals and that's why I've been becoming more aware of it. Where you start to look at the items, like even when you use deodorant, there's deodorant with aluminum and aluminum causes you. It's higher for people to have like dimension Alzheimer's. So it's like you should probably get the aluminum free. Oh no, the aluminum free one costs $4. The other one's a dollar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Exactly, or it's. You just don't know about this stuff because a lot of the time people never hear about it. So I just love these conversations because they're opening up the discussions of what should I be doing, what are these supplements Like, what are these different areas of life? And I think you hit it on the head where you said it starts off with what we need to do first. Supplements are like step two, but you got to be going outside, walking, getting exercise, drinking a lot of water clean water, for that matter. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and really some of the basics is sugar, and when I say sugar, glucose, the glucose molecule, right, it's C-H-O, right C6H12O6, right, so that glucose molecule is inside a white rice. White rice is starch, starch is this glucose molecule together? Right? So white rice equals glucose or sugar. So when I refer to sugar, I'm talking about complex carbohydrates like pasta, like rice, like white rice, because it all converts to sugar, right, as well as all of the sugar that you can actually see, like potatoes I look at potatoes as sugar, okay, right, Because these foods will give you a sugar spike, right, interesting. So sugar is probably it's arguably the most addicted substance on the earth, more than any other substance.
Speaker 1:Right, and now, now a sugar like Coca-Cola chocolate, like I always thought of sugar. I always thought of that Like, yeah, and honestly, I went to one of Tony Robbins event in 2021. It was UPW. And I came back and I told Madison I'm like no more sugar in the house. And she's like what do you mean? And I'm like we just don't get sugar. They have sugar supplements for things, but then you start to learn that, like, bananas have sugar and some of these fruits and vegetables have sugar as well. So it's, but they're originally. It's a complex space.
Speaker 2:It is, it is, and we could talk a whole lot about managing sugar. You know, on a, you know, and I think you know we should on another podcast, we should definitely talk about sugar, and there's some experts that I've learned from with respect to diabetes that we can really talk about, you know, and go deep on it. But managing sugar is is so important Oops, sorry about that. It's so important, right, because really it affects, you know, it is, it is linked to cardiovascular issues, obviously, linked to diabetes, type two diabetes and insulin resistance. And now they're calling, you know, the sugar epidemic connected to brain disorders, right, yes, like Alzheimer's, right, and it and it makes a lot of sense, right, because when there's too much sugar in the body and then it starts floating around in our bloodstream, right, and that that sugar is floating around in these small blood vessels, right, and that's where we get the neuropathy, that's where we get, you know, these small blood vessels dying. Right, absolutely, and it's real quick.
Speaker 2:It has to be managed right and there's lots of tricks to manage it too right and there's ways and it's completely. It is reversible right Through lifestyle changes and for a lot of people. You know I really believe in fasting right and fasting is something that has been proven right and you know to to really help move that dial towards reducing blood sugar levels and what what type of fasting? Yeah, I mean there's. I mean I do intermittent fasting, right you know, and intermittent fasting I do a 16, 8. Right.
Speaker 2:So my last meal is generally, I'm done by 7 pm. Okay.
Speaker 2:And then my next meal is usually around 11 am or 12. Okay, right, and basically you're training your body to to burn fat, right? Okay, right, and and really, when you, when you think about it, the body is looking for. You know, there's a sequence where the body is looking for energy in different places, right? So, first of all, it's looking for glucose, right? So, if the body can't find glucose because I'm fasting, and then it, then it looks for, okay, where else can I get the sugar? Yeah, and then it goes and looks for glycogen out of your liver and let's say that's all used up, right? So, after 20 minutes of walking or so you're, you're used up, or exercise, you'll use up the glycogen, which is really sugar in the liver. That's God, yes. And then you're used to burning fat when you're basically not moving, right? So it's actually a good way to to burn fat. Interesting, right? So you're, you're burning fat while you're fasting because it's looking, your body's looking for energy. Yes.
Speaker 2:Right, and intermittent fasting has a lot of benefits. But once, once again, you know it's something that you got to be careful for. It's different from males and females, right? Yes, like my, my hemoglobin A1C numbers my last time I checked it was a 5.8, right, so you know, for me that's kind of high. So intermittent fasting is actually beneficial for somebody in that category of. But this comes back.
Speaker 1:This comes back to the people understanding their body and who they are, because if some people do try to fast and then they're like, no, I don't feel well, yeah, probably shouldn't do, and this is all comes back to it. So exactly what do you think would be some actionable steps for the audience to take, based on supplements and I know we still have another like 10 minutes but what do you think would be some steps for the audience to take, just cause I wouldn't want them to? It's a ton of information.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's like what do I do with this information?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and you know I've been running a block. You know quite a bit in many different roles, you know as in my job, and you know the best side scene and there's a lot of DNA companies out there but, hands down, the DNA company has the best and the most comprehensive way of looking at functional genomics to actually use that information right into actionable steps. Right, okay.
Speaker 2:So that, yeah, that's why I'm a big fan of it, and it's not because you know we sold our company to the DNA company. But it's actually makes sense, right In these categories, right. And then you can just pinpoint okay, what should I be doing, right? What supplement should I be taking? And then you've got a health roadmap to optimizing your health.
Speaker 1:So step one, you would say, is just signing up, investing in yourself, understanding what the exam says. Yeah, but I mean you don't even have to do that alone, because there's a doctor who will show you afterwards.
Speaker 2:no, yes, yeah, absolutely Absolutely. So you can, you know, purchase one of those programs as well, right? But I think that way you're not wasting all this money on supplements, right? So, so, for example, like taking a multivitamin, you know, it sounds like probably not a bad idea, right, yeah? But what if you're really sensitive to one of those vitamins? What if one of those vitamins isn't in the proper form? It's not like methylated, it's not broken down so that your body can absorb it well, so you could be wasting a ton of money. And it's not precise, right? We're talking about you as an individual, right? So, actually taking the DNA test, you're, over the long term, you're going to save a ton of money and not waste money on things and supplements that you shouldn't be taking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, right, yeah. And the other thing is, I've heard about these. There are many companies that do these DNA tests, so saying the company they sold it to has an option. But there's many options and it's just that some like you just need to know who you are. So who would be best for this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I mean. I mean I've looked at a whole bunch of companies, right, and to the point where the DNA company is coming out with a customized supplement for you as an individual that's precise for you, based on your DNA test. Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so then we're targeting exactly what we need to supplement, right, and using very high quality supplements, right, that are methylated, that are broken down so that your body can actually receive them, like B12, right? So there's a form of B12 called cyanocobalamin and cyanide that word cyanide not healthy, so it's a derivative. Well, like that form, cyanocobalamin is derived from the cyanide molecule, right? So you want to use some healthier versions of B12 that are methylated?
Speaker 1:right. Just to make this easy for everyone, what are some of the major? If you're going to start reading, like, say, someone's going to the food store and they're going to start reading the ingredients, what are like the top three ones that are probably in most people's shopping carts but they should keep an eye out for because it's not good for you? But you talked about it a little bit and I've always heard from different people, but they drop like 20 different things and I'm like I'm confused.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what is like the simplest way of like yeah, the simplest way is, I would say reduce, minimize or do not eat things in a package with a lot of long words in the ingredient section. Okay, for example, like not to pick on Ritz Crackers, but these are processed foods in packages. Yeah, because there's a lot of chemicals in there and one of those chemicals you might be reacting to. Okay, it could be one, it could be 10, but here's the thing, right, and then over time it just builds up, right. Yes, so eating you probably heard this many times eating whole foods, right, so, even like making your own foods ahead of time and doing some meal prep.
Speaker 2:Because, even going into a high-end restaurant, right, they're going to use canola oil, right, yeah, so oils are highly inflammatory to the gut. Right, it's going to break down the gut over time and cause inflammation and then it could cause secondary symptoms. Okay, Right, that could be related to, you know, it could be treated as a symptom, and then you're on these medications and it could be just eliminating, just eating a clean diet right, yeah, and then this could be very difficult because I tried doing this with, like, different protein bars, right.
Speaker 1:So I'm looking, because my thought is on. When you think about this very simply, most people in essence eat the same thing on a weekly basis. Right, dinners might be different, but breakfast and lunch are pretty much to the dime. Like most people have very similar habits. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And my thought was, if you are aware enough to pick out a new protein bar or a new whatever you have, that can change the game for you. I was looking at it like the protein bars. There's one protein bar I have that it's got a few different supplements but it's got no sugar. And then you go with an RX bar. It's got like five ingredients but it's got a lot of sugar because of the almonds, the dates and all that. So I'm like is the RX bar bad or is it good? And it gets this interesting debate and you're like I don't even know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a process right, and for a lot of people it's hard to get started. Yes, Right. And one of my mentors uses term single, simple, doable thing SSDT Right. Yes, one single doable thing that you can do to move forward in your health, in your relationships, in your business. What have you Right? I mean, quite simply, is cooking at home Right, and I tend to eat like the same sort of brunch breakfast, right, I love eggs.
Speaker 2:You know, having you know, the best eggs, from my understanding, is pasture raised eggs. So these are. These are hens, chickens running right In the grass eating worms, right, eating natural things and bugs. Yes. Now, I mean I had to do some research, like free run eggs it could mean that they're, the door was open to their cage and they'd consider that free run. They had access to running. Yes, and that's like free running. I kind of and I started researching this like, oh my God right, there's so many different levels.
Speaker 1:Right. Oh my God, they're really all right.
Speaker 2:So because I eat a lot of eggs, right, I'll eat five or six eggs, you know, with my, with my lunch, right? And then I might have some tuna on it. You know tuna as well. So I'm getting 60 grams of protein, because you know we have to eat a lot of protein, right? Yes.
Speaker 2:And, and that's that's really important, right? So I also take digestive enzymes with these meals too, so that I break down the food and the food becomes more available for absorption, right? And that's that's linked to my DNA test. Like, in a sense, I know that about myself and I feel way better when I'm taking them right. So I've got, I've got validation genetically and how I feel and it and it works. I feel better, I sleep better, right.
Speaker 1:So that leads me to the next point of and I think you brought up. A really good thing is this podcast is coming to an end. You could have learned something from this. You could have not learned something from this. I'd be surprised if you didn't learn one thing, though, and the thing is that we learn knowledge, and it's not that knowledge is power, but applied knowledge is power. So picking out one thing that Sang talked about today, or myself talked about today whether it's going on a walk in the morning, or eating more whole foods, or getting different eggs, or shopping differently, or doing making one change is the action it takes to learn, and whatever that action you choose is up to you. It might be no action, but I think it would be beneficial if you took one of these, and 99.5% of these things are free, so just choose an action and take it, and, sang, I know you have something for the audience as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah and yeah, I do have a 10% off the DNA 360 test and Jordan. If you can share with the audience, that would be great, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'll put that in the show notes and.
Speaker 2:And if you want a personal yeah, and I will do a personal consult with, with whoever takes it and go over their DNA tests with them and walk them through it.
Speaker 1:Absolutely yeah, and I think that would be super valuable to anyone interested. And it's it's important for us to realize that we have one body. We don't want to waste it, and it's just. It's important for us to do what it takes to get that body back into shape and get it to the top level that we need it to be, because otherwise we're just going to be not fully enjoying life to the most of it, and that's not what being clocked in is about.
Speaker 1:Being clocked in is about living each day to the backs, making the most of it, getting your workouts in, getting excited about it. So, as we enter at this point, when this will release, it will be the new year and it's going to be 2024. And you really got to make the most of your life and you got to go after it and you got to understand your health, because you only have one body and these tests aren't going to change too much over time. It's your body, so you should get a great foundation and understand where you're at. So thank you, guys, and I'll put that all in the show notes.
Speaker 2:Great, see you later, thanks.