Discover the life-altering impact of sport and service as we sit down with Sang Kim, the force behind Beat the Streets Toronto, who shares his compelling story of transformation through wrestling. In our conversation, Sang illuminates how physical health, community, and personal growth fuse together to forge stronger individuals and tighter-knit communities. As we unpack the philosophy of Edwards Consulting, we're reminded that the confluence of mental and physical health, philanthropy, and relationships isn't just idealistic—it's practical and pivotal for a thriving life.
Feel the heat as we break down the scientifically-backed benefits of sauna use that extend beyond mere relaxation. We're not just talking about a nice sweat here; it's about boosting your workout's effectiveness, enhancing muscle recovery, and even reducing the risk of chronic diseases. Understand how the cultural heritage of saunas links to our modern quest for wellness and how these traditions can be seamlessly integrated into your fitness routine for heart-pounding results. Sang and I will get your pulse racing with facts and personal insights that prove health should be proactive, not just a response to crisis.
Lastly, we tackle the art of forging steadfast exercise habits that stick. It's not about monumental overhauls; it's the simple, sustainable shifts that can transform your relationship with fitness and health. From embracing the four-minute workout rule to adopting mantras for braving cold showers, we'll walk you through the psychology of habit formation that can lead to a more robust, invigorated you. Whether you're a fitness newcomer or a seasoned athlete, this episode is brimming with strategies to level up your health game, intertwining the warmth of community with the resilience of good habits. Join us for a journey to healthier habits, right here, where strength meets community.
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Discover the life-altering impact of sport and service as we sit down with Sang Kim, the force behind Beat the Streets Toronto, who shares his compelling story of transformation through wrestling. In our conversation, Sang illuminates how physical health, community, and personal growth fuse together to forge stronger individuals and tighter-knit communities. As we unpack the philosophy of Edwards Consulting, we're reminded that the confluence of mental and physical health, philanthropy, and relationships isn't just idealistic—it's practical and pivotal for a thriving life.
Feel the heat as we break down the scientifically-backed benefits of sauna use that extend beyond mere relaxation. We're not just talking about a nice sweat here; it's about boosting your workout's effectiveness, enhancing muscle recovery, and even reducing the risk of chronic diseases. Understand how the cultural heritage of saunas links to our modern quest for wellness and how these traditions can be seamlessly integrated into your fitness routine for heart-pounding results. Sang and I will get your pulse racing with facts and personal insights that prove health should be proactive, not just a response to crisis.
Lastly, we tackle the art of forging steadfast exercise habits that stick. It's not about monumental overhauls; it's the simple, sustainable shifts that can transform your relationship with fitness and health. From embracing the four-minute workout rule to adopting mantras for braving cold showers, we'll walk you through the psychology of habit formation that can lead to a more robust, invigorated you. Whether you're a fitness newcomer or a seasoned athlete, this episode is brimming with strategies to level up your health game, intertwining the warmth of community with the resilience of good habits. Join us for a journey to healthier habits, right here, where strength meets community.
To Learn More about:
Beat the Streets: https://www.beatthestreets.ca/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanghkim67/
To Reach Jordan:
Email: Jordan@Edwards.Consulting
Youtube:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9ejFXH1_BjdnxG4J8u93Zw
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jordan.edwards.7503
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordanfedwards/
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Hey, what's going on, guys? We've got a special guest here today. This is Health is Wealth, episode 5 with Sang Kim, and I wanted to do this episode and we've been doing this for the past couple months. We usually do like one a month, and the reason for that is because I'm a coach. So some of the main pillars of Edwards Consulting are mental health, physical health, community service, philanthropy, spirituality and relationships, and Sang is also a coach, and the reason for that is I found that Sang has a very interesting view on the world and it causes you to live a more expansive life and it causes you to live a a better life. So I'm here with saying, saying what? What's going on with that background too?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, well, thanks for mentioning it. Well, over here we have my friend, uh remy adelecki. He's a former navy seal and actor and author. He'll be one of our guest speakers at a charity event that I will be involved with. I'm a board member and director of Beat the Streets Toronto, and we're a charity. We're an organization that's getting kids off the streets and getting them into different programs, education and through the sport of wrestling, so they're learning discipline through the sport of wrestling and there's opportunity for mentorship and getting them into different jobs. And really, you know, I think ultimately we're producing leaders.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:To give back, you know, into their communities and um, and you know it becomes a full circle. I'm very passionate about it because I was one of those street kids growing up in scarborough, which is the east end of toronto I call the bronx of toronto right and and wrestling saved my life many times and got me out of trouble. You know when I was bullied and you had to be tough growing up in Scarborough in the early 70s and early 80s. So you know I'm very thankful for the sport of wrestling. And then we have John Irving.
Speaker 2:He's an Academy Award winning novelist and he happens to be living in Torontoonto and he's an ex-legit wrestler. I believe he went to princeton and he's a big advocate. He's waving his, his fee to talk to us and our goal is to raise a hundred thousand dollars. And, wow, we're getting very close to have raised ninety thousand dollars and we've got about 160 tickets sold for the event and I'm just so ecstatic that I'm, you know, going back to my roots and helping out my former coach and founder of Beat the Streets Toronto, john Park.
Speaker 1:That's incredible and I love that, because one of the pillars I was mentioning is community service and philanthropy and majority of time and I know this is health as well, and we're going to get into. We're going to be talking about Sanos today and we're all versatile creatures. We all like different things and we have different groups that we want to support and different areas, and I appreciate you saying sharing your philanthropy component, because there's so many times where we just don't. We don't ever find that and I think it's really powerful that you're sharing it and I'll definitely throw it in the show notes and we'll try to put it out, actually probably next week, so that people can still donate and still push any uh possibility of people are interested in that.
Speaker 2:That's amazing yeah, yeah, well, thank you, thank you, uh, for that jordan, and that's that's. That's awesome. And I just want to say, by the way, your hair looks very, very fantastic and wavy today. What's going on?
Speaker 1:I actually got it. Uh, you'll never. I actually got it done in, uh, porto, portugal, because I'm currently traveling for the seven weeks, right, and this guy, like my hair was getting out of control and this guy literally cuts my hair. Guess how much it was how much?
Speaker 1:just guess five euros it was 10 euros I've never had a second guess, yeah and then so with a normal haircut I usually tip like five, ten bucks, so I just tipped the guy three extra euros and he started speaking english. It was, it was wild. He was so over the moon because he did such a good job. You could tell this is one of the guys that really like cared about what he was doing well, you look very slick.
Speaker 2:You know I, I've got. You know I. You know I don't say this a lot to other men, but it's, uh, it's very sexy on you, by the way I appreciate that. I appreciate that saying, I appreciate we're here, otherwise I'd be touching your hair and looking at it because it looks fantastic I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did me well. He did me well, um, but yeah, we're here for health as well. We're gonna talk about, really, what are the benefits, because over the past four episodes we've done four already. We talk about morning routines, we talk about all of these different things and reasons and easy effective ways, dna tests, easy effective ways that people can really change their lives. So for you saying what is saunas done for you? And like why do sauna? Like, is this a new thing? Have people been doing? Like tell me a little bit yeah, yeah, well.
Speaker 2:Well, let's look at the, the modern origin of saunas, right? I mean, I mean it's you know the? I mean the Scandinavians have really popularized it, and if you have some Scandinavian friends from Norway, finland, sweden, in particular, you look at their skin, it's clear, they look very healthy. So this is part of their culture, right, like where finnish people I was watching this documentary on saunas one day and the finnish people they okay, so you walk in, just say you're there, you walk into the sauna and there's your, your mom, your dad, your uncle, sister, everyone's naked and you walk in, right. So culturally, you know, it's a normal thing that they do as a family, you know, with friends, and they're very comfortable in their own skin. Plus, the physiological benefits of Sanos are just unbelievable, according to many of these studies, right, so it is very interesting.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I actually went to Iceland and then we had saunas, cold, all that stuff, and you could tell the Americans were always a little uncomfortable because the europeans are like let's go, like and it's.
Speaker 1:but there's like not any weird undertone to it, it's just like, yeah, I'm just doing the sauna and I'm doing the cold plunge and it's like it is what it is like yeah, it's a very interesting lifestyle because, as you start seeing it and we're seeing it more with, like, the hot exposure jesse itzer talks about it a lot with the hot exposure to the cold exposure, back and forth, and it just gets the body into this state of oh my, what is going on?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and you look at the, you know, I mean, there's just so many benefits of it, I mean. So my, my sort of first exposure to saunas was probably, you know, when I was probably 12 or 13 years of age. Oh wow, so I'm cutting weight for wrestling tournament, right? So let's say, back then I was cutting four or five pounds to make weight. So back then we would have to cut weight and then we'd make weight, like, let's say, at eight o'clock in the morning, right, you make weight, and if you're overweight you're in your, you're in your garbage bag, or if you're at a higher end term, maybe, maybe the hotel has a sauna, and then you go to the sauna and then I would count the drops of water to know how much weight I would lose, right, really.
Speaker 2:So that was my first experience with saunas. Is cutting weight for wrestling, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So it wasn't for this idea of physiological benefits. I didn't know anything about the physiological benefits back then, but you know it served this purpose right yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:I mean, saunas have always been this cool area where you get to, you know you're not doing anything like. The idea of a sauna is literally, you open it up, it's hot inside, you go inside and you just sit there for 20 minutes, sweat a little bit and you come out and you feel exponentially better and the coolest thing is that you don't the the biggest difficulty I find with fitness is that you have to run, like, whether you're running or lifting the weights or doing any of that, this is the one activity where you legitimately sit there. You can sit there and do the same thing you would do outside of it, but inside of it it's.
Speaker 2:It's a very interesting yeah because the benefits are so outrageous yeah, yeah, let's, let's, um, let's dig into that a little bit deeper. You know, um here.
Speaker 2:You know, there's a lot of talk about dementia, alzheimer's right as the population ages and and you, you know, you know our listeners or friends, you know, we all know somebody that has a, a relative or a friend that may be suffering from these areas of brain issues, right? So here's a 20-year sauna study by Dr Yari Lukkanen and basically the results were such that they stated sauna bathing is associated with a decrease of 53% of a chance of you getting dementia over the next couple of decades. If you basically did the sauna roughly three times a week in the sauna for that 15 to 30 minutes, right, and then you had a 53 less chance of getting dementia or alzheimer's in the next couple of decades.
Speaker 1:wow, sit on that for a bit yeah, I mean, I actually funny enough, before we decided on this topic.
Speaker 1:I I ended up going home, so my parents ended up visiting me in tampa in january and I was gonna go, like we went on this cruise, like this family cruise, in march and then I was gonna be in new york for a week, because then we're going on this, we're on this european trip right now right I was going to spend a week in new york and madison really likes saunas, like my fiance, she like loves the sauna, and so I told my parents I was like, because I knew about all these benefits, I was like you guys need to get a sauna, like you should get a sauna, and it sounds crazy, but for like you can get one for like four hundred dollars, which is just like a zip up one, like yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1:Or there's like the two thousand dollar one which is like the full wooden inside in your in your house, like super easy. And my parents ended up it turned out that my grandma actually um had a sauna for the past 15 years right in her house and she lives 20 minutes away, and my dad ended up getting the sauna from it, brought it into the basement so that when we got there the sauna was there, which was cool. So now they're saunaing two, three, four times a week because I'm like benefits are insane. You guys are getting a little bit like you should really prioritize your health and there's not too many of us that do.
Speaker 1:And it's such a simple way to do it. Because, I don't if you guys really think about it when they do like what's the cost, right? Yeah, you're 80 years old, you have dementia and you're just your. Your life is just going downhill. Yeah, if you just sat in this sauna no 20 minutes, like you know what I mean and you feel better and saying run through 100 other benefits it's yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And you think about um. You know the practicality of it, right, like you said, you could go buy one of these dry saunas for 400 bucks and you zip up your head sticking out and your body's being super hot and warm right, so you could do it or you can join.
Speaker 2:Like here in canada, we have good life, fitness and a lot of these places monthly membership right, you have access right, or the ymca, or, or you know, or buy, buy a cheap one, you know, and yeah or you're right, because I'm a member at Crunch.
Speaker 1:That's like one of the gyms I go to and they have saunas and I believe Sang knows this. But, like Tony Robbins talked about it, just with all the benefits of saunas, if we put, if you just go to the gym and just sit in the sauna and just do that as your workout, eventually you'll start working out, but you build the habit of going to the gym.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's's fantastic habit, regardless, absolutely, and you know, while you mentioned that, uh, yeah, I was just looking at some studies around pulse workout sauna activity, right okay so let's say you do a 30 minute workout at the gym or an hour workout and then you do a sauna afterwards for, let's say, 15 to 20 minutes at 101 to 102 degrees Fahrenheit.
Speaker 2:So what these studies have shown is that it enhances the training response, so it increases your VO2 max, right right, which is your body's ability to take on oxygen and to use it, and it also increases your lactate threshold, which means your ability to deal with lactic acid in your body and to push through the. You know you, you know the pain of hypertrophy and you know, you know, you know you're stiff, you're not as sore.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right. And so so the heat actually increases can increase the volume of the workout and the intensity of training. Without the training, wow Right. Without the training, wow Right. So you do your workout and then you do a post sauna. Therefore, you're not having to go to the sauna on another day. So, from a practical perspective, if you're working out three times a week, add in like, let's call it a cool down, right, yeah, but it's not a cool down, it's like a hot down, right, right, let's get hot again for 15, 20 minutes. Make sure you're hydrated, obviously, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then you can extend your workout. So it's like working out getting the physiological benefits of working out without the pounding Wow, Save your body. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's profound. It's basically like, say, I did chest one day, so I'm doing 10 reps of bench, then I do 10 incline and then, instead of me doing dumbbell, bench press or some machine, I would just do the sauna and it intensifies what I was doing. Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, exactly Exactly what I was doing. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah exactly, exactly like, like. I would use it, as you know, as an add-on to what you're already doing yeah, right, and especially if you're already sweaty and like you've already worked out yeah it doesn't make sense not to hop in the sauna now.
Speaker 1:Aren't there some benefits in regard to, like heart health?
Speaker 2:oh, absolutely. I mean when you think about what the sauna does, right? So your body's, your body's, at this temperature, you? Know yes 98.6 degrees give or take right, and now we're elevating it to 100, 101, 102-ish right. So your blood vessels are getting larger, right. Okay, it's moving blood around and you think about the benefits of when blood is moving around your body to different areas maybe where it didn't get the blood.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Think about the benefits of all the nutrients in the blood getting to places where it hasn't been before.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:Right, you think about it from that practical perspective. Yeah, there's huge benefits. Like your blood plasma volume goes up, so it helps with your cardiovascular health. It can help decrease the risk of diabetes because now your body is processing sugars better. There's a 2021 study that by doing saunas can preserve muscle mass.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow.
Speaker 2:And therefore increase your health span right. So you know there's a lot of studies done on muscle mass and longevity, right? Yes muscle mass is associated with strength and actually, like grip strength is, is um is connected to longevity, which makes sense, right, you don't fall if you got a good grip strength, right, and then you don't bring your etc.
Speaker 2:Etc. Right, right. So having this strength um is is connected longevity and, and you know, the sanas will help with that as well yeah, I, I was actually reading a book, uh, like die with zero, and you start to think about it.
Speaker 1:it's by bill perkins and he basically talks about what is the most useful activities, like you know what I mean. It's the idea of picking up a child, so it's like you want to have the muscle, and the back muscle, to be able to do that. Or it's be able to stand up. Like there's these little things where we we take them for granted majority of our life and then, when we're at the very end, we're like, oh, wait, wait, wait, this is important. Can I get my legs extra strong? And it's like, no, you should have done your squats. Like you should have done the workouts. But regardless, if you just start with, I should have sauna'd like it's such easy task in because you're already sitting there. It's not like go work out in the sauna, it's like you're already sitting there and then, once you get the gym routine, but it's the idea of showing up constantly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you know. You know as well as I do, jordan. You know when we're coaching our clients. You know I'm I'm really focused in on financial advisors that I'm coaching and and entrepreneurs.
Speaker 2:Um, you know, what I find is that they have big goals and if you don't have the energy, you don't have the health, um, it's, it's just a little bit harder to achieve those big goals. So I think a lot of entrepreneurs are really down to being super fit and I think the mindset is of a professional athlete Treat your body like a professional athlete. Train when you need to train, recover when you need to recover, because you need this energy to achieve these massive, abundant goals.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say 100%, and a majority of the time when you might be listening to these Health is Wealth episodes or we're in coaching sessions or any of these. What people don't realize is we already know the right things to do. It's so simple, but we just want to over complex everything where it's like let's make this as confusing as possible and it's like no, if you do this activity, you will increase your life, and that's one of the major reasons I wanted to do these podcasts and I continue doing these. Health as wealth is because, for me, I'm constantly learning new things and a lot of these learnings I share with my clients and I share with the people I know, and it's just super valuable when you sit there and you go, wow, can reduce dementia by 50%. I'm pretty sure there's another stat regarding heart health where it can reduce heart attacks by a significant amount as well, and it's just. The benefits are insane.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah. There are a number of studies showing using the sauna three to five times a week for, let's say, around the 30-minute mark, will reduce your risk of cardiovascular disease by 30, 40, 45 percent.
Speaker 1:There's this, you know it's a significant number, right, and there's different studies that you can, you can cite, but I think, I think we need to pay attention to it because it's something that, um, that's readily available for people and it's not astronomically expensive yes, and the other thing that people don't realize when you go in the sauna, like I have a fitbit, so like when I go in I can see my heart rate and my heart rate usually jumps up to like my resting right now is at 52, so a range between like 45 and 50, and it usually like will get up to 120, which is equivalent to me almost sprinting and like getting a job going, because you're in this elevated state and people don't realize these benefits that it's simulating all that while you're just sitting there yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And you think about, you know, the average american is not very active, right? So so, if the average american isn't very active, and let's say that you, you know that you were medically cleared to do a sauna, right, you know, and and once again, we should always reiterate that this is not medical advice, or you know, not everyone there are risks of going to saunas if you've got preexisting conditions, right? So so you, you want to be mindful of that, right? Um?
Speaker 2:for example, if you, if you've got eczema or if you got psoriasis, like, like you know, visible skin issues, um, it might irritate those, those areas of the of the skin, right?
Speaker 2:oh, wow you know, and that's something to pay attention to, right, but the the you know, I mean you think about the other benefits it. You know why not use a sauna to cleanse your skin? Because now your pores are opening up and flushing out the dirt and toxins. And you know, yes, it's getting, it's getting flushed right, and you think about that. And you're not using chemicals to do it. You're doing this in a natural way, by elevating temperature and moisture.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, and the thing I would say, if you guys aren't like completely in on the sauna yet, like completely in on the sauna yet, it's really just the biggest barrier to any any of us is how difficult it is to get to right. So if the sauna is like 10 minutes away, probably likely to do it. If the sun is in your house, you're even more likely to do it if the sun like you know what I mean. So if we can figure out how to integrate this habit because I was doing a group coaching today, this morning, like where we did group and we talked about habits, yeah, and the important thing was how do you acquire new habits? Well, you have to trade out bad ones. So what does that mean?
Speaker 1:And I was talking to a couple people about this that basically, this one guy's like yeah, I want to go to the gym. And I'm like, well, how often you go to the gym? And he's like three to four times a week. And I'm like, okay, that's fine. And I'm like but how often do you sleep? And he's like well, I sleep every night. I'm like okay, how often you eat? I eat every day. And I every day. I'm like, okay. So if we have the habit. Why don't we work out every single day, not a good way or bad day, but it's just like you don't have to always do the sauna, but you could literally work out sauna, whatever, but you start to get in the routine of like what the activities are and then you add them in and you supplement them out for other things, because it really helps your mindset get to that peak performance, like you you were saying, as an athlete.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and you know, I think, I think a lot of us we need to change the definition or the meaning of a workout, right? So this is one thing that I learned from. Tony Robbins probably mentioned this before, but it's such an important mindset, you know, for me I had to set an easy rule for me for it to be a workout.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:And I'm going to give you some comparison. So when I was doing half Ironman training, you know 70.3, right training. You know the 70.3, right and you know the swim, the bike and the run. And let's say I had seven workouts planned for the week, right, and if I only did six of the seven workouts I considered myself a failure. So my rules are really strict. My internal rules were I must do seven out of seven workouts and then I will be happy. That was my mindset right.
Speaker 2:So I was wondering why I was so unhappy training. All the time I'm thinking what the f? Am I doing this for? I'm miserable, right. And then met tony robbins and went to date with destiny. Spent whatever six nights, six nights, 14 hours a day, a date with Destiny all this crazy stuff. I did it twice actually, and what I realized is that my rules were too hard.
Speaker 1:So I had to make my rules for working out easier.
Speaker 2:So instead of being seven out of seven to be happy for my workouts for the week, I changed my rule to all I have to do is move my body for four minutes and I'm at peace. I have moved my body. I've done something with my body. It's considered my workout of the day.
Speaker 2:And now some people are thinking what the heck are you talking about? That's not a workout, no, no, no, that's not the point. The point is that because I made my rule easier, I became more happier. I wasn't hard on myself, I wasn't punishing myself. Of course, my goals were to to do xyz at the 70.3 half iron man. But my rules changed and actually I enjoyed working out more because I was harming myself if I missed one workout out of. I did six out of seven. While you're working where you're busy, that's pretty freaking good, right, yeah, you know what I mean. I didn't need to punish myself because the four minute rule was what was giving me the happiness.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Seven out of seven workout rule. That was really tough to maintain. Yeah, yeah does that make sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you want to make it as easy as possible to win and as hard as possible to lose, so, but a normal mindset is oh well, seven out of seven, that's expected. Okay, if that's expected, then what's the loss? Everything's a loss. It's really easy to lose, really hard to win, and it doesn't even feel like a win.
Speaker 1:So it was when you inverse on that it really helps the mindset, like that guy was telling you about, about the gym I go dude 10 push-ups a day. He's like what I'm like? 10 push-ups a day, that's. That's the gym for you. Like, if you want to do more, do more, but if you only have to do 10 a day, you'll get the habit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because you just do it every day you start building.
Speaker 1:It originally was go to the gym and just stand there like, don't even do anything, just step, step inside the gym, exactly. It's like these super simple things where we just develop these habits, because it's not like you could buy the sauna, have the sauna in your house amazing but like what if you don't use it? Because you don't? You don't have the habit. But the important thing I want to bring up is that a majority of us do have habits. They might not be good, they might be bad, they might be bad, they might be good, but a lot of us have habits, all of us have habits. So me and Sang have the habit of hopping on health as well. Once a month Like you know what I mean. We, once a month, like you know what I mean, we have the habit of doing all these different things. Some people have the habit of watching Netflix for two hours. So if you just supplement that, where you're like I'm just going to watch Netflix in the sauna Fantastic, that's a great start.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just wanted to bring up the importance of habits because even if you get the sauna and you understand the importance of it, if you're not able to implement that into your day-to-day it becomes very difficult.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we talk about Tony Robbins a lot. I mean, obviously he's had a big influence on you, has a big influence on myself. I spent a lot of time in that community and continue to do so. He talks about this net time no extra time N-E-T. Out this net time, no extra time n-e-t. And you think about it right. So if you don't have no extra time but you're going to the gym, so tack on the sauna at the end. So it's part of going to the gym.
Speaker 2:Now it's a two-for-one deal you get your workout and you get your sauna at that one location yes, right, so you got no extra time so. So figuring out how you can combine things together and group them together to save you time, so you didn't have to travel just for the sauna.
Speaker 1:You were there anyways right no, I love the no extra time idea and it's super important.
Speaker 1:Like, for example, prior to this podcast, me and Sang haven't talked in a little while, so we just start going. And what I realized was we should just start the podcast because if we start talking, then we can get more clips, in which case those clips can amount to maybe impacting someone positively. And it's just like why would we talk without the board on if we're going to have the conversation anyway? So it's the ideas of how do you make it as easy as possible, like another great example of that was I wanted to meet more higher level people. So you think, how do you do that?
Speaker 1:Well, I guess you could reach out to people and set up information times and do all this stuff, or just make a podcast. And on the podcast, I'm forcing myself to meet new people and have these deep conversations and to learn about other topics, and I'm like whoa. So it's a forced learning for me, where I expand my network drastically and, like saying has come and spoke with my group, like I deepen the connection with a lot of people because we find out other ways to reconnect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely you know. Just going back to the sauna once again, that was our primary topic today. Well, you think about how you feel after the sauna, right? So how do you feel? I mean, I feel okay, I feel sweaty, I feel relaxed, I feel less stress, I feel like the gorilla or whatever I was thinking about is off my chest, off my back.
Speaker 2:My blood is pumping and actually I feel ripped you know what I mean. Like I feel like I shed maybe some fat off. You know that feeling where you just feel lighter. Well, of course you are, you're dehydrated a little bit, but it's this calm and ease feeling that I love about it. Right, and obviously you want to hydrate afterwards and have some electrolytes, but that feeling reduces stress. And you think about stress as the silent killer. Yes, stress equals increase in cortisol levels, the hormones, stress hormone and then that increases the probability of turning on your suboptimal genes. So you get these suboptimal, poor genes. They get turned on if you're in an elevated state of stress and then you get all these weird things happening to your body. You know, potentially illness, disease yes so, so you think about it.
Speaker 2:I mean, there you know a root cause. A lot of illness is elevated cortisol or stress. Okay, sauna, you can look at the sauna as one of the methods to potentially nip away at the root cause of illness and disease. Like you think about that, you go wow, it's not just sweating in there, like I'm talking about potentially preventing so many of these illnesses that we see later on.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, I mean present like I was looking up some of the benefits and it's literally reduced stress, improved sleep, improved immune function, weight loss, ease, lower back pain. Uh, clears your poor skin health. Like improve metabolism, reduce inflammation, increase endurance. Like it's all of these positive things and, like you said, like you just gotta figure out how to fit it in your day and how to get access to them, and a lot of public gyms have them. Like the crunch membership is like 10 20 bucks a month, like it's like why are we not doing this?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, absolutely. You know, and and I haven't you know, and this is great because I haven't been in the sauna for some time, so it's actually inspired me to get back in there.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I've got my cold shower routine nailed down and it's really helping me out because I'm a low dopamine type of person, you know, with ADHD tendencies, which is very common amongst entrepreneurs you know more than you think right, and the saunas, I think, are going to be really helpful because I'm dealing with an atrial fibrillation right now of my heart, so my atrium is not in sync with my ventricles pumping properly, so there's a fluttering effect, right, so my blood pressure is a little bit low, so I'm I'm uh seeing a bunch of doctors on how to best treat this. Like I'm on a beta blocker, which I don't like, you know.
Speaker 2:It's a causes fatigue right I'm only on a half a dose. Uh, thank god, um, but uh, it's helping to reduce my my heart rate so that my chances of getting a stroke go down, you know oh, wow is in fluttering mode, right, so yeah. So this is you. I've been very healthy all my life, but up until recently I'm dealing with this, so yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, I appreciate you sharing that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I think it gives a better understanding of everyone that we're not superhuman and even though as much as we prepare, prepare, we still have to continue the maintenance and continue working on the machine.
Speaker 2:so it's kind of funny that the sauna is a good reminder of it yeah, yeah, absolutely, and and I'm um, yes, and it's something that I'm going to be adding in to my routine once again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, Absolutely Super. How do you think people should like implement the sauna or get this heat exposure in their life Like? What do you think are the best ways of doing that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think you know. First of all of all, you know you got to manage the risk first.
Speaker 2:Okay, right and make sure. Uh, you know, do a little bit of research. You know, talk to your doctor, say am I at any risk, um, of any other issues arising if I use the sauna? Yeah, if you're, if you don't have any risks, right, you know, I think it's a lot easier, right. But yeah, you gotta listen to your body and I think in today's busy society is like you say how do I make it a routine, how do I make it easy? How do I make it so there's less friction to say yes.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:So you know, if you can bundle it with your workout if you're already working out, yeah, bundle it in. If you're not working out and you're not using a sauna, well, maybe you do a 10, 50-minute workout and maybe you have access to a sauna and then pair it together.
Speaker 1:Yes, so it's still only 30 minutes yeah, I.
Speaker 2:I think, I think for most people you don't need an extra trip, right yeah?
Speaker 1:friction, right yeah and most people don't have the time. Yes, how do you make it as easy as possible and yeah, sometimes it's honestly like having a gym buddy or having friends who are doing it, or finding a gym that's close to you, or maybe there's honestly what I've been seeing pop up a lot is sauna, like.
Speaker 1:There's like this crazy thing where it's like sauna, cold plunge, like memberships yes, I've seen those yeah, where like you can pay and like hop in the saunas and like they have cold exposure to, and like you pay a monthly fee or whatever might be worth it.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah everyone's got their own thing. The main point of the health is wealth is just to provide another resource and another perspective and another way. Because, in all honesty, it helps me, it helps Sang, understand what we're really looking at and like why health is so important. Because in reality, we all want to achieve this big business goal, or these things and all of this, and if our health's not there, nothing's there. Or these things and all of this, and if our health's not there, nothing's there.
Speaker 1:So it's like why not focus and take this moment? If you listen this far, why not focus on your health? Why not make the change before there's a real scare ahead of you? And like it's like no one makes it out alive. So you might as well feel good along the way. Because the other thing you mentioned saying, which I think is really important, is feelings. So like when people drink, when people smoke, when people run, when people do saunas, they're all just chasing a feeling. We don't view it that way. We go drinking's fun or we go this is chill or this is whatever, but we're all just chasing a feeling. So note that when we can manipulate our feelings through the way we feel through a sauna, it's like the cheapest way to feel amazing, and it's so easy.
Speaker 1:So I ask you yeah, why don't you do it?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know, I, I think, I think it's being really honest with yourself and being aware of of how you tick right. Yes, so yeah, once you understand, um, how to hack yourself and your behaviors yeah so.
Speaker 2:So for me, um, you know, like, like, let's go back to the cold showers, um, and then I I'm gonna, now that I've got that, you know, very much down, and and I really, you know, I really hate it. But one of the things I I say to myself and I've learned this through tony is I use the words I am so I say you know, so I take my warm shower right and clean myself off, and then I then I say I am the effing ice man. You know, wim hof, I am the ice man. And then two of those, and then I turn it to cold and I focus on my breath yeah 3 seconds in, 3 seconds out.
Speaker 2:I do 3 and 3. That way I count to 60 times 3 seconds. So there's my 3 minutes.
Speaker 2:So I don't have to count to 3 minutes, 3 minutes, my brain goes, oh my god, that's a lot. But 60 seconds right. Count the 60, three-second exhales, then I get my three minutes right. So I know I can trick my brain that way because I know counting the three minutes is going to be tough, or 180. It's easier to count the 60. So I've learned how to trick myself of uncomfortable things and and you know yourself best and be honest with yourself and you can figure out how to do these things. It's just like my, uh, my four second rule, right, yeah, four minute rule. You know, just do it for four seconds and then you're okay, or just work out for four minutes, just walk for four minutes.
Speaker 2:That's all I want you to do, right? So this is internal dialogue. Oh, I don't want to work out, I don't want to work out, and then and then, happy saying says all it takes is four minutes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Such a wussy Four minutes. I don't want to work out no Four freaking minutes, okay.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:I can do four minutes. Any Jam, yes, I can do four minutes. Any jamoke can do four minutes. Right, and then I go and work out even though my brain's saying I don't want to yeah, as in once you're in the four minutes, you're moving and grooving yeah, then you feel great.
Speaker 1:You change your physiology, you change your state yes so that's for me that works, and even though I have this internal dialogue, it works but it's super important because the more times we prove to ourselves that we can do it yes, then we start to understand who we really are and what we're capable of, because there's so many of us that we just get bogged down by life. We are not inspired, we're not proud of what we're doing, and if you can just prove to yourself I'm waking up at 5 am and actually do it, you're building confidence in who you are and your word of what you're gonna do. Because there's so many of us, you say I can do this, I can do this, I can do this, and they just don't follow through and it's like I don't know what to tell you. But like that is a terrible character trait and that needs to be improved upon, because the words you say, the things you say you're going to do, you should hold those true yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:and if you don't, what ends up happening is that you start criticizing and judging yourself and then your focus goes towards failure and not accomplishing something and not trusting yourself and not following through.
Speaker 2:And the more you do that you know you start to rumin yeah, on the fact that you're not good enough and all these primal fears that I'm not loved, I'm not good enough, starts to circulate and you start to ruminate and then you don't trust yourself and then you reduce your own self-confidence in yourself and and really it's say what you're going to do and do what you're going to say, you know, yeah it changes everything.
Speaker 1:And yeah, absolutely saying this has been amazing. Where, where can people learn more about you? And then we'll also just saunas Like we've got to figure out where people can get these saunas too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. I mean I haven't done a great job on social media, but I've been inspired just recently to to do that. You know from you, jordan and some other friends. Yeah, I'm at on Instagram. I'm saying Kim at at saying Kim official. Yeah, I'm at on Instagram. I'm Sang Kim at Sang Kim Official. And then I'm on Facebook, linkedin, Absolutely. And yeah, you've inspired me to get our messaging out even more and just sharing our journey and our experiences, and hopefully it's inspired somebody to take a look at saunas and make it an option.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I hope you guys are able to do a sauna and maybe one day saying we could do this from a sauna. That'd be cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, absolutely man.
Speaker 1:But either way, either way, I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this to everyone. It's always super valuable and guys, remember, go out and sauna like we're. We're not selling anything. We're just want to share the information because we know if it's just kept with us, it does nothing. We need to share this information. If we have something valuable, you all need to share that information. So I want to thank you guys for listening and I think this was absolutely amazing, thank you.
Speaker 2:Yep, thank you, jordan, and I always enjoy having a chat with you right and just sharing this is awesome. I love this platform.