Gojek Cofounder Kevin Aluwi returns to the Indo Tekno podcast in a wide ranging discussion of his personal management philosophy, work-life balance, innovation in Web3 & crypto, and investing in a successful marital partnership when both spouses maintain start-up leadership roles. Kevin specifically addresses his belief in “saying no to great ideas” and the importance of a company “proactively paying its debts”. Having recently wrapped up his role at the successfully merged GoTo, Kevin reflects on the continuing importance of weaving the subtler differences between the two companies in areas such as culture, management principles and even compensation schemes, once the post-merger "heavy lifting" has finished.