Indo Tekno Podcast

Tapping China Synergies: Benny Chen of BAce Capital

October 20, 2020 Alan Hellawell Season 1 Episode 20
Indo Tekno Podcast
Tapping China Synergies: Benny Chen of BAce Capital
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Indonesia's and China's technology ecosystems continue to interweave and overlap. BAce Capital is a venture firm whose very mission is to connect markets such as Indonesia to China's dynamic tech eco-system. Claiming Ant Financial as its anchor LP, the firm was founded by Ant and Alibaba veterans Benny Chen and "KK" Kshitij Karundia. In this instalment of Sino Indo Tekno, Benny reflects on the many benefits that the Indonesian entrepreneur can realize in working closely with his/her counterparts in China.

The founding team of BAce played key roles in higher profile Alibaba and Ant Financial investments such as Lazada and Tokopedia in Indonesia, and PayTM and Zomato in India. BAce invests in an Indonesian start-up if the partners can easily connect that company to longer term learning relationships with: 1) Alibaba and Ant Financial themselves (China's absolute leaders in e-commerce and fintech, respectively),  and 2) some of the hundreds of investee companies within Ant and Alibaba's broader ecosystems.

How do companies in China scale? What are best practices in product development? What are the most powerful ways to leverage big data?  Benny profiled a number of activities that his team has arranged for BAce Indonesian portfolio companies such as Printerous and RoomMe. Learning visits to meet industry peers in China helped answer questions such as those above, while focused workshops on Chinese COVID mitigation techniques offered these companies valuable coping mechanisms for the pandemic. In his concluding remarks, Benny suggests that continuous improvements in Indonesian infrastructure and expansion in digital payments & logistics are key to driving further online growth.

Introduction to latest episode of Sino Indo Tekno
Growing tech connectivity between China and Indo: Benny Chen of BAce Capital
BAce Capital founded by Alibaba/Ant veterans Benny Chen & Kshitij Karundia
Ant Financial as BAce Capital anchor LP
Benny Chen: Riding Alibaba's IPO and Ant's global expansion 2014-2019
Learnings from investments in Lazada, Tokopedia, PayTM, Zomato
BAce Capital is sector-agnostic: common theme is smartphone penetration
BAce Fund One: USD115m, average check size USD500K to USD5m
The many benefits to the Indo entrepreneur of working closely with Ant and Alibaba
Ant Financial and broader Alibaba eco-system can co-invest with BAce
RoomMe, Printerous, Wallex: recent examples of BAce investments in Indo
BAce investment criteria: can we add value? Can we connect to our China and India ecosystems?
Mobile payments: an area in which BAce, Ant have unrivalled expertise
Organizing trips to Chinese peers: how BAce has added value to RoomMe and Printerous
China-India tensions have "no bearing" on BAce's investment activities
Sharing Chinese COVID mitigation techniques with India, Indo portfolio companies a major value add
Comparing Indo and China in payments and e-commerce
Common links and opportunities between BAce target markets India and Indo
China COVID learnings: protect your runway, strengthen mobile offerings, educate users more
Improvement of infrastructure and expansion in digital payments & logistics key to driving further Indo online growth
Conclusion