Ep. 49 | Bucket List Trips

In today’s episode, Friends Brian, Jim S and Tony discuss their ever- evolving Bucket List for travel. “The Bucket List” dynamics is different for each traveler. A Bucket list regarding travel is a list of great places around the world that we can only dream of going to, and if we get that one opportunity, then that is where we would go. When we first began traveling, we had the normal bucket list items, like Paris (Eifel Tower, Versailles, The Louvre, Notre Dame, etc.) or London (Big Ben, Tower of London, etc.) once we were lucky enough to get to these iconic places, on numerous trips, our Bucket List did not disappear, it grew! We had become “Travel Addicts” and like any addict you are looking for the next “High” and because of that, the next great trip is always being planned, and with so many amazing places around the world, The Bucket List grows and can never be complete.

Past Bucket List Trips- The Friends have been very fortunate to have gone on numerous trips that have been considered Bucket List Trips. We discuss “Running with Bulls” in Pamplona Spain, Riding Camels in the Sahara Desert and then camping that night with a  Berber Tribe, Seeing the Northern Lights 200 miles above the Arctic Circle in Norway, visiting the sacred Angor Wat temples in Cambodia and attending Octoberfest in Munich.

In addition to visiting iconic cities and structures like we mentioned in Paris and London above, seeing the canals in Venice and Amsterdam, celebrating St. Paddy’s Day in Dublin or bringing in the New Year in Bangkok, the friends have been a lot of places.  Listen to the episode to hear of all the bucket list places the friends have travelled to.

Second Cities- Rick Steves mentions going to the second cities in a country….. for instance, in France Paris is the big draw, but going to Leon or the Boudreaux region can make for some fantastic trips. So, we discussed what places had we gone to, thinking one place was the “Bucket List” item and found something else just as amazing. In Pamplona, we did a day trip to San Sebastian, and would recommend it to anyone. Going to Greece and visiting the Acropolis in Athens, but then visiting the island of Santorini was incredible. Listen to the episode to hear the rest of the great places we discovered.

3 New Bucket Lists- each friend on today’s podcast made a new or updated list. Some items listed mentioned Outer Space, Visiting all The Wonders of the World and King’s Day. To hear the entire list’s download the podcast or read the transcript below.

Transcript

Intro 

Welcome everyone to the Friends That Carry On Podcast where we dive deeper into our trips, unpack tips, and everything in between. Now, sit back, relax, and get ready to go on a trip with your favorite group of friends.

Brian Romine 

Hello everybody and welcome to the Friends That Carry On Podcast. This is Brian and I’m here with Jim Scott and Tony Price. And today, we’re going to be talking about bucket lists. Bucket list, I guess its things that you want to do before you die, right?

Jim Scott 

Yep, before you kick the bucket.

Tony Price 

I got a little formal definition up here in front of us. It says, “It’s a collection of goals, dreams, and aspirations …

Brian Romine 

Careful now.

Tony Price 

That’s what you say.

Brian Romine 

Yeah.

Tony Price 

… that you would like to accomplish within your lifetime.”

Brian Romine 

Yeah. So, I thought today, we would talk about maybe some of the things that we’ve already done that might have been on the bucket list beforehand and then what might be remaining.           

Tony Price 

Yeah. So, we’re actually going to do just a travel bucket list, right? Not your personal goals. I don’t know what your personal goals may be.

Brian Romine 

That’s a good point.

Tony Price 

It’s not like, “I want to grow a garden.” That’s just travel.

Brian Romine 

Depends on where you’re growing the garden. I suppose you could travel to do that.

Jim Scott 

Or yoga, you could travel to do that.

Tony Price 

But this is all travel related, right?

Brian Romine 

Yeah.

Tony Price 

It was funny, we were talking a little bit before we started recording. We really just started traveling truly, what, 10 years ago?

Jim Scott 

Yeah, roughly.

Tony Price 

And, I think our bucket lists have changed dramatically.

Jim Scott 

They’ve certainly evolved.

Brian Romine 

Yeah. Well, you were mentioning beforehand that you look back on the things you’ve done and you’re not sure they would have been on the bucket list maybe?

Tony Price 

I was saying that. And I think this is for, again, purely from a travel perspective that if you start taking off and really traveling, it’s naturally going to evolve. The things that you had on your list, like your top 10 things, if you end up traveling a lot, you’re going to knock those out. So for me, it’s been 10 years since I took my first big trip, my European trip. The things that I had on my list then, well, three of the top 10, we actually did in that first trip. I’m talking about locations, specific locations. The other seven I was like, “I’m not sure if I’ll ever get to them. Maybe I’ll knock off all 10 of them”. I’ve knocked off all 10 and I’ve been to several of them like eight times. I think Paris is one of them, it’s kind of crazy.

Brian Romine 

It’s interesting. So, something on your bucket list could have been you want to go see the Eiffel Tower, but it could also be a bit more broad where, “Hey, I want to go to Paris.” And so, how do you really define that?

Tony Price 

Yeah, I think you can do it however, right? I mean, it’s your bucket list.

Jim Scott 

Yeah, that’s what makes it nice and unique. It’s yours.

Tony Price 

Yeah, you can paint it however you want, decorate it however you want.

Jim Scott 

Yeah, no two are alike.

Brian Romine 

Well, I’ll kick it off. I’ll kick my bucket first. So, we’re talking about Paris. That was, for me, my first biggest trip. A few years ago, my wife and I went to Paris and that was certainly something that was on what I would consider my bucket list to do. We did so many things while we were there and I didn’t really think about it in that way. You know, this bucket, is it to go to the Eiffel Tower or is it to go visit Versailles, or was it just really the trip to Paris? I think for me, it was more about really a trip to Paris, not doing a specific thing. So, we did that. And boy, we hit the jackpot when we went. We were there for seven or eight days and it was 70 degrees and sunny every single day.

Jim Scott 

What time of the year did you go?

Brian Romine 

We went in October.

Tony Price 

That’s a great time.

Brian Romine 

We just hit the perfect conditions. We had breakfast, lunch, and dinner outside every single day. It was just incredible. I would say, except for when we visited Versailles, we had like a late brunch inside of Versailles, that little restaurant in there, which was excellent.

Tony Price 

So, you were saying, the trip to Paris as a whole was part of your bucket list, your kind of goal or dream to do.

Brian Romine 

Right. Yeah, certainly one of the things that I’ve always wanted to do.

Tony Price 

You assumed, or at least I assumed, I guess when you go to Paris, there are those iconic things that you do want to see. I think Eiffel Tower is on everybody’s and then the Louvre, there’s several of them. So, that was definitely part of just an assumption that we were going to try to see. But, it was definitely just getting to Paris.

Brian Romine 

The surprise to me when I was there, we had all of the big things, Notre Dame, the Arc de Triomphe, the Louvre, of course, and Versailles, we stayed in Montmartre during the Grape Harvest Festival, which was really cool. That could be a bucket list item itself just to go during that time and to get the best views of Paris. Many people get up there at [inaudible 5:56]. This was just awesome. But the thing that would have been on my bucket list had I known what the experience was like was just the cafe lifestyle. That was the most enjoyable thing throughout the entire week for me. It was just hanging out, having a cappuccino, watching people walk by, and having some really great food. It was pretty cool.

Tony Price 

 Yeah, it’s cool. What about you, Jim, your bucket list?

Jim Scott 

Well, I’ll sort of elaborate on what we’ve talked about already, prior to my first big trip across the seas was also Paris and Amsterdam. So prior to that, sort of going back before that, and what’s in your mind of what a bucket list is, you’re right, all those iconic places, historical places, and all that was definitely on, whether it’s the Eiffel Tower and Versailles, and those museums, Louvre and all, or in London with Big Ben, and the different things there, or any of the big European cities, doesn’t really matter, Rome, same thing. So, those were my bucket list type things then or that’s how I would have described them. Now, I’ve gotten to go to some of those places and we’ve taken part in some activities that are also bucket list things, whether it’s running with the bulls or riding camels in the Sahara Desert, or going to Oktoberfest, or seeing the Northern Lights. I mean, all these different things that have happened. So now, my bucket list has become wider and a bigger net. All those different types of things are on the list. Some are natural wonders that you want to see. I was going through it prior to the podcast to kind of refresh my memory and see what’s out there that I haven’t done or what I have done and     I pulled up a list by tourscanner.com. It’s a blog of 100 top ideas. We’ve been talking about Paris, I wasn’t thinking about those. But, a handful of those things were on that list. That’s what got me thinking about the evolution of a bucket list. Going to see Notre Dame is impressive and important, and why wouldn’t I be there? But now that it comes up, it’s not what I’m thinking about, because I’ve been there. So, it changes and evolves. I just think starting this conversation makes it pretty cool when I think about it. Whereas before, I’m just thinking about the list, like, “I’ve been there, forget about it.” Well, that’s not the case with our listeners and whoever’s thinking about traveling. It doesn’t matter where you’ve been or what you’ve done in the past, it’s what you want to experience now. And the more you can experience, great, but this world is so big and so wide and so many things out there. The list is, I guess there’s a right number at some point, but it’s going to be very tough for everybody to get to. So, it’s just cool that there’s so many things to do.

Brian Romine 

Yeah. Well for you, though, can you maybe name off a couple of particular items that you would have considered on your bucket list before you started this that you’ve knocked off and what were those experiences like?

Jim Scott 

Oh, sure. I’ve got quite a few lists. I don’t know if you just want me to get going and ramble on, or just take a couple and go round the table.

Brian Romine 

We don’t have time for all of them. So, we’re putting the pressure on you here to come up with just a couple of maybe the major ones.

Jim Scott 

Well, the stuff we said in Paris was there at one time, but one thing that’s an offshoot of Paris was going to Normandy. That was a real big deal and more of a heartfelt type place that I wanted to go to and had that very powerful experience to go and enjoy that. So, Normandy was one. For my 50th, I got to do a couple of bucket list things. We went to Tromso, Norway, which is 200 miles above the Arctic Circle. We’re fortunate. We expected to see the Northern Lights but you don’t know. There’s no guarantee they’re going to happen, you can’t just show up. Unlike going to the Eiffel Tower, at least you know you’re going to see it if you get there. But we were fortunate enough, hung in there, and got to see those. So, that was a magnificent experience. On that same trip, more of a festival type thing was going to Oktoberfest, which obviously is a big festival year round that’s in Munich, Germany. So, going and doing that with a bunch of friends was a great time as well.

Brian Romine 

That’s like your annual bucket list. Right? You have an annual bucket list.

Jim Scott 

You can, absolutely. But you have to get there once before it can become annual.

Brian Romine 

Or twice, right?

Tony Price 

I aspire to have a monthly one, travel bucket list.

Jim Scott 

Yeah, absolutely. Why not?

Brian Romine 

All right. Well, how about you, Mr. Price?

Tony Price 

Yeah, it’s funny. So, just like Jim did, I was kind of looking at what other people could perceive as a bucket list for travel. There’s several websites that are posting them. And that’s part of the thing that we’re going to do. This episode, we’ll come up with what we think our top three things to do as far as bucket lists at the end of this.

Brian Romine 

What’s left in the bucket?

Tony Price 

Yeah, what’s left in the bucket. But yeah, I mean, going through it …

Brian Romine 

Or is it out of the bucket? You put it in the bucket once you’ve done it.

Tony Price

I think it’s out of the bucket, right?

Brian Romine

It’s out of the bucket.

Tony Price 

I was amazed at how many things we had done. I mean, truly. You know, Notre Dame, the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre just in Paris, Angkor Wat, just recently, absolutely amazing. Grand Canyon, seeing Big Ben in London, Venice. I mean, just being able to take a ride down the canals in Venice is just one of those things. It’s so iconic to have done that, literally on our first trip, was awesome. Sagrada Familia, seeing that cathedral was just all struck. The desert, like you said riding camels in the desert, for God’s sakes.

Jim Scott 

Spend the night in the desert.

Tony Price 

Yes. All right, add on to that. Oktoberfest, Mardi Gras. I mean, there’s just so many things we’ve gotten to do. We’re talking mainly, obviously, foreign travel. There’s so many things that are on people’s bucket list that are just in the states that we all kind of just take for granted. Vegas, New York, New Orleans, list goes on and on. It’s just kind of crazy. But that’s just the things that’s on the top of our head. I mean, it’s crazy bucket list stuff.

Brian Romine 

How about any of those that you’ve done because you guys have done quite a bit more than I have. I hope to catch up one day. But how about things that you would put on your bucket list now, that you didn’t realize, when you went there the first time, it was just like, “Oh, this wasn’t really something I thought I was going to do. But, wow. What an experience. This really should be on somebody’s.”

Tony Price 

Things we’ve done that people probably wouldn’t have?

Brian Romine 

Just you, personally. Something that you didn’t really have or think that might have been a bucket list item but you ended up doing and it’s like, “Wow, that was surprisingly…”

Tony Price 

For me, one of the big things… but you’re starting to see it, I would say, more over the last five years getting on these lists of places to see was Dubrovnik in Croatia. It really wasn’t on a list a decade ago. I mean, it was really few and far between that people would talk about it. But lately, it’s really gotten, you know, you see it on a lot of lists now.

Brian Romine 

All right. So, if it hadn’t been on your list?

Tony Price 

It was just quirky why it was on my list, I mean, it really was, It was just one of those weird things, I saw pictures of it, and wondered where the hell that was, right? I mean, because if you see the pictures of it now, it’s more recognizable, especially Game of Thrones. I mean, everybody recognizes. [inaudible 14:39] They’ll recognize when they see it. I think it is also an era that I grew up with the whole war and the things that went on there, just that kind of thing was one of the things that drew me to it, but I really wanted to go and I got to go. So, I think it really should be on everybody’s list.

Brian Romine 

How about you, Jim? Any that really took you by surprise when you went that you didn’t think?

Jim Scott 

Well, yeah. I guess going further on that I really want to go back to. I mean, I didn’t necessarily. It was part of the trip. It was great. And then now I was like, “Oh, yeah, I need to go back there.” Let me add on a couple that we went to and stuff like that. This first one, wasn’t solely on the bucket list, but we ended up doing it and that was being in Bangkok for New Year’s Eve. So, that was pretty cool. That was a neat experience and one I won’t forget. When we went to Greece, we did go to the Acropolis and see the Parthenon, which definitely was a big bucket list thing and I’m very grateful I went there. But then we went to some of the Greek isles, and Santorini was just fantastic. I would suggest to anybody, if you’re going to go someplace in that area of the world, you should check it out because I mean, it’s just beautiful and just fantastic all the way around. Also, this was a day trip, a side trip, a trip that wasn’t even really in the schedule other than to get a break from what we were doing, which was running with the bulls. So, we were in Pamplona. We’re living that bucket list trip that we’ve done numerous times now but popping up a 15-minute ride to San Sebastian and that’s just another gorgeous city that’s on the coast and great food.

Tony Price 

That’s a food mecca. It really is. It’s growing even more so, as far as a food destination spot. Two of the top 10 restaurants now in the world.

Brian Romine 

So, what’s the dining experience like there? Is it indoor, outdoor, both?

Tom Price

Both.

Jim Scott 

It’s very European. I mean, some cafe seating outside and you’re going to walk in by everything, the small streets, and that type of stuff. You can sort of see what’s going on. They’re not usually big restaurants but then they got seating outside, which sort of expands the capacity. Lots of tapas, so you can go in and kind of see what the fresh tapas are, which is just very enticing. So, I want to eat here then you go next door’s like, “Holy crap, there’s another.”

Brian Romine 

It’s like you with the street food in Vietnam …

Tony Price 

Oh, my God in Bangkok.

Brian Romine 

…or in Bangkok. You had to try everything. Is that what we’re talking about?

Tony Price 

Yeah, six meals a day. Highly recommend that. Then, you throw in the occasional snack.

Jim Scott 

Right. Just to side you over.

Tony Price 

But I do remember saying that’s one of the beautiful things about an environment like that where the food is so inexpensive. I mean, we’re talking like $1.50 for a meal. I remember every time we’ve stopped in to have a drink, take a break and sit down, and have a drink and people watch, they always throw out the drink menu and the food menu, and everybody would go, “No, we’re going with a few bottles.” I was like, “Woah, woah, woah. Just bring that back and let me look.” And sometimes, I would order something knowing I’m not even hungry, but it’s $1.50, I’m going to try a few bites of it, see if I like it. Unfortunately, I end up eating it almost every damn time. Sometimes I walked around a perpetual state of being full. But again, yeah, it’s awesome.

Brian Romine 

Very good. One of the surprises for me in Paris was going to Versailles. My wife, Emily was the one that said, “Hey, we really should take the trip out there.” If I remember right, about an hour and a half. It’s a bit of a venture to get out there, train ride and it’s a full day experience, so I wasn’t sure that going to Versailles and spending probably about an entire day would be worth it when you’re only there for about eight days or so. But boy, it was one of my favorites and a surprise. Just walking the grounds, going all the way back into the [inaudible 19:19] area. It was a great day, it was great to be outside walking around. The weather was really good as I’d mentioned. The other one for me that I thought I would never ever do and did, and really glad I did was the JFK 50 miler with my son. So, that was a big surprise and I would have never done it had he not been pushing me. So, I would never put something like that on the bucket list. I would have never done it had I not had an 18-year old son that likes to run. So, I’ll never do it again.

Tony Price 

Don’t say never.

Brian Romine 

Never say never but those are just a couple of the things for me that were surprises.

Jim Scott 

I mean that one itself is, I know I can’t do that. You’re in a small class to be able to do that bucket list items. That’s kudos to you. That’s a great feat.

Brian Romine 

Yeah, it was fun, very rewarding. Again, I don’t recommend it for anybody unless they want to. For me, it was just about doing something with my son. That’s a big thing. So, where to next? Are we going to talk about things that we still have left? Things that you guys still have left you think might be on the bucket list?

Tony Price 

Maybe we should do a quick little synopsis of all the places we’ve been, maybe some of the recommendations. We kind of hit a couple of them, but maybe just some recommendations of additional places that you see on the lists but we’re actually saying ‘we should go’ type of thing. Just a quick little summary of those. I mean, we talked about, you want to call them festivals or like significant things. I think anybody who’s listening to the podcast on a regular basis knows we’re huge proponents of festival San Fermin in Pamplona. We’re currently mourning because it’s not happening this year.

Jim Scott 

Right. We’d be packing our bags and anxiously awaiting.

Tony Price 

That’s huge that I highly recommend. Oktoberfest, which again, we were going to go to both this year. And both of them have been canceled. So anyway, that’s huge. I think everybody should try to attend Mardi Gras. I mean, I love New Orleans no matter, even though I haven’t been in several years. It’s still one of the cities in the United States I’ve been to the most. I think I’ve been there a dozen times other than places right around here that you can drive to. There’s still something about that festival, specifically. I mean, it’s total chaos.

Jim Scott 

Yep. Absolutely. I got to do that one.

Tony Price 

It is a total shit show.

Jim Scott 

It is. Oh, absolutely. There’s no doubt about that.

Brian Romine 

So, right up your alley to…

Tony Price 

It absolutely is. Now I have to say, I’m a little older than I was when I first went. You have to be in a frame of mind just like in any festival because there’s crowds of people. But also knowing to get off the main streets to be able to grow in and be able to grab a drink quickly versus the total chaos of Bourbon Street. That’s just something you should absolutely have. I mean, those are like some of the big festivals that I know, that I’ve been to. But yeah, I don’t know what else I was thinking. I’m sorry.

Several other places around the globe, I think Spain in general is a great place. Portugal is a great place. I think everybody immediately says France, even England and Spain or occasionally here in Spain, but usually know that Italy and France is like the two big things of Europe, then throwing some Germany things.

Jim Scott 

Well, I never get Ireland and St. Patty’s Day.

Tony Price 

That’s a huge experience. We just kind of forget about things that you’ve done.

Brian Romine 

Yes, that’s on my list of things I haven’t done that is residing on the bucket list.

Tony Price 

Yeah. It’s just crazy to think about your bucket lists.

Jim Scott 

It is, absolutely. You mentioned Spain, Barcelona. One of the day trips out of Barcelona, you mentioned Sagrada Familia and all the other gaudy places, but outside of Barcelona, we did a day trip to Montserrat, which is a monastery up on this mountain with the Black Madonna and that was beautiful and incredible. And then, the second half of the day was to one of Europe’s largest venues, Camp Nou. That’s one thing Brian asked earlier, one of those things that weren’t necessarily on the bucket list, but that day trip, definitely left an impression.

Tony Price 

Yeah, that’s one of those things, too. When you look back at things you didn’t necessarily plan or was ever on your radar, and then you’re like, “Well, we’re going to be in Barcelona for seven days. Let’s get out.” and then there’s the Black Madonna, which we knew about, but there just had to be a combined event with Camp Nou and to this day, that’s one of those most memorable things, just kind of going through that whole vineyard and one of the classic pictures of our group, which is just fantastic. I still have several bottles down in the basement from that trip.

Brian Romine 

That are full?

Tony Price 

Oh, yeah.

Jim Scott 

That’s a bigger surprise.

Brian Romine 

Jim, is that an invitation?

Jim Scott 

Probably not if he ain’t drinking.

Tony Price 

I’m not saying you won’t participate when we do crack them open, but I’m not quite ready.

Brian Romine 

Gotcha. Okay. So, where to from here?

Tony Price 

You want to talk about some potential bucket lists places?

Brian Romine 

I think we should. Jim, you want to kick us off here with some that are on your list?

Jim Scott 

I am sitting down and thinking about this prior to, I used the way we booked past trips where we usually hit a couple places and usually there are some bucket list items on here, so they end up combining into one trip, but they’re in general facility or area or something that kind of makes sense. So, if you’ve got 7 or 10 days or two weeks, depending on what you’re doing, you can actually hit into maybe a couple bucket list items right off the bat. I did three different groupings. I don’t want to go into all those right now, but at least start and then let somebody else do what they want to do. I want to give that background of why I’m kind of piercing a couple things together with this. So the first one, and before I set down the list, this festival is something that’s on my list. I’ve been wanting to go to it.  The time of year is in April and it’s never worked out to be able to do it. So, before I did the rest of the list and started looking at stuff, and saying, “Oh, wow, I want to go there. And oh, yeah, well, I want to go there.” to about 25 different places, the reason I’m going to this first is because this is what was in my head before I even looked at anything. So, it is King’s Day in Amsterdam or the Netherlands.

Tony Price 

We’ve talked about that for years now.

Jim Scott 

We have and we just never seem to get there. It celebrates the King’s birthday. The current King’s birthday happens to be April 27. So, it varies because obviously kings only last so long but the festivals have been going on for a long time.

Tony Price 

It is a particular day.

Jim Scott 

It’s on April 27.

Brian Romine 

And it changes when the king changes then, I’m assuming.

Jim Scott 

I think so, yes. But going back in Dutch history, the royal family was the orange family way back in the day. If you remember the… I’m not going to say right, the war, the orange or when they battle with Britain and so forth. So, orange is their color and everybody, all the locals that go to the festival wear orange. If you can picture all the canals in Amsterdam, all the streets are just filled with people to canals and the boats and it just looks like a fantastic time. Since we’ve had some really good times at different festivals, this just looks like one that I really like to get to.

Tony Price 

Yeah, well, plus we had some good times in Amsterdam.

Jim Scott 

Yes. So, put them together and kind of feel like…

Tony Price 

Can’t go wrong, right?

Jim Scott 

Exactly. The King’s Day starts the night before. It just goes all weekends, Carnival atmosphere, street party, DJs, public squares, all that type of stuff. So, it’s just a great atmosphere, or I assume it is judging by the pictures and all that, that’s why I want to get there. So, that’s on my list. But like I was saying, when we look at these trips, how do you kind of plan a few things around that? Because I mean, that’s like a weekend. So, I’m going to Europe, I’m spending more than two or three days there. A couple of other things as I was looking through TourScanners’ list of 100 things, it’s not that I didn’t know these things, I just kind of forget because the world such a big place, there are so many things, but being up in that part of the world, a couple things came up for Iceland. Their Great Geyser and the Blue Lagoon. We fly through Iceland all the time, we have layovers there, we say, “We got to come there. There’s cheap, cheap flights to Iceland.” and we never do it. We never actually stay and get out there and go do it. If I were to do this trip, I would wrap it with the King’s Day in April. Iceland obviously is going to be cold but it would be very temperate at that time. The Blue Lagoon is a heated, beautiful lagoon that you can get in. It’s heated meaning it’s warm springs and just beautiful. So, it’s the thermal waters right outside of Reykjavik, very popular. And then, Iceland itself, which isn’t a big country has all kinds of things to do. The Great Geyser is one of them, they got some great waterfalls, different ones, glacier lagoons. It would put together a whole trip to knock out a few pretty cool places in that one trip. So that’s how, like I said, I’d sort of do groupings when we look at doing some of those things. So, that was the first one. It’s not necessarily my top list that I want to offer when we finish this and do a top whatever we do, but it’s one that I would certainly consider.

Brian Romine 

I think that would be an amazing place to go to.

Tony Price 

Some of the things that I was thinking about, too, was this kind of goal about … actually Rick Steves is who brought it to my attention, is more of the second cities, term he uses. So, when you think France, you think Paris, Italy, you think Rome, and that type of thing. Some of them are not the most popular city in the country, but maybe the secondary cities to kind of hit because there’s just something unique about … you have those iconic locations, but then there’s other parts of the same country that can open a bunch of other doors to you. Some of the things we always love is that when we travel, you get surprised. So, if you’re going to someplace that maybe you didn’t first consider, “Okay, maybe we’ll try that one and then just see what happens.” Because we think France, Lyon is a big, popular place but nothing, obviously, like Paris, and then you get into some of the other locations just looking at some of the bigger cities but not the biggest city or the most popular city, and just trying it out. I don’t even know what some of them would be. I don’t know if there is such a thing as a true second city, but just picking a city that you maybe didn’t think about, and just go.

Jim Scott 

Yeah, I think you’re always gonna be pleasantly surprised because you haven’t done your research or whatever it is, the cathedral, the historical landmark, just the great restaurants or the vibe of the town. You’re not thinking about it so it catches you off guard in a positive way. And it’s like, “Wow, this is just really cool.” So, its kind of has more impact than maybe the first cities because you were expecting all that from the first cities and sometimes are let down.

Brian Romine 

Some of it may just be getting out of the city that you’re in and going out, diving into the culture a little bit more. You guys have talked about that before. Absolutely. So, maybe it’s not the second city, but it’s just getting outside of the city and getting in more with the locals, seeing what they’re doing, learning what they’re doing in a different way than just what’s happening in the bustling center of the city that you see all the pictures, photos or you hear about. Those experiences can be kind of cool.

Jim Scott 

Absolutely.

Tony Price 

One of the big things I was thinking about was visiting things around themes. Just as a concept, just “Okay, I just want to do food.” or maybe it’s museums and then just saying, “Okay, let’s look it up and see what pop us, what different sites and different blogs are saying is some of the top places to go now, versus what was historically known as the top food places.” Just try it and see what it comes up, and just seeing what cities pop up that maybe you didn’t think of and you’re like, “Oh, well, I’ll try that just because that food looks awesome.” So, yes. I do live with my belly. I’m sorry.

Jim Scott 

I do, too. But it’s not by choice.

Brian Romine 

I think that happens for a lot of us. It’s a big part of travel. It’s a big part of learning about the country, the city that you’re in, the culture that you’re in, the way they prepare food, the way they source it, how they present it. Those are great experiences.

Tony Price 

Yeah, you can always [inaudible 33:58] kind of a big influence for me as far as travel and how you travel. Break bread with somebody, doesn’t matter where you are. I’m not talking about going to what we refer to as a chain restaurant or to the tourist places. You get into some of the places like Venice. Well, there’s five giant cruise ships that roll in in a day. Well, they only go so far. I only have so much time and the attention span. Those first two blocks of restaurants are going to be not what I would consider traditional food and we’ve talked about that in other podcasts. If you get into an area and you can really get to like you were saying, locals, and where they’re eating, how they’re eating, it’s an experience. Great when you can actually sit down with them. How many times have we done that? I guess if you tend to hang out for hours at a time eating and drinking, eventually you’re going to meet locals. Sometimes they invite you down to sit at the table and it’s just always been a great experience. Just, always.

Brian Romine 

Sometimes they invite you to leave. It’s time for you to go.

Jim Scott 

I don’t think so. Certainly don’t remember it or I choose not to.

Tony Price 

We blocked that out. No, there have been times just like that here in the states where they’re like, “All right, we closed an hour and a half ago. We really got to go.”

Jim Scott 

Europe is not bad about that because they’re just so laid back and easy going about it. But yes, that does happen.

Brian Romine 

I like the idea of traveling for a theme. So food, obviously, that’s a great one. What other types of themes can you think about for travel?

Tony Price 

Some of it’s been adventure. Also festivals, like Jim mentioned King’s Day. There’s several festivals that we have on our list. I think that is one of those that, “Hell, let’s just plan a trip around it.” you know, who knows what will happen? Then you can just add in a couple cities around it.

Brian Romine 

San Fermin could be adventure and festival.

Tony Price 

It is.

Brian Romine 

All in one. And food.

Tony Price 

It is that, too.

Brian Romine 

Right. But you could do a tour or a couple of stops just really based on one of those.

Tony Price 

Yeah, I mean, some people I’ve seen even doing some stuff around music. We almost did one combined with going to Pamplona. One of the big… and I do apologize, I don’t remember the name of that, because I don’t think we have talked about this, but it was one of the top music festivals that’s done in Madrid. It’s happening somewhere around, I don’t remember if it’s the beginning of San Fermin. So, if it’s around the July range or if it’s more towards the end, so like July 15, but it’s right around that timeframe. It’s huge. It’s absolutely huge. And so we were like, “Hey, let’s just jump in on that.” Kind of planned a little too late.

Brian Romine 

That’s a great idea.

Jim Scott 

In fact, there’s a podcast that talks about Chase Boehringer, the bucketlistlifestyle.com.

Tony Price 

Oh, really? I haven’t heard that one.

Jim Scott 

Yeah. That’s what they do. They plan, they write, they blog, they podcast about it. They can also help you plan adventures or whatever your theme is – adventure, music, food, destination. Goes into a lot of detail, almost specifically to the bucket list lifestyle. So, it’s pretty cool.

Tony Price 

I think some would say we have a bucket list.

Jim Scott 

I think that would be accurate.

Tony Price 

But, again, we always say anybody can do it. You just have to decide to take that first step and do it. And it does become addictive.

Jim Scott 

That’s the thing. It is.

Brian Romine 

Well, for me, I had done the typical type of thing. I haven’t done a tremendous amount of traveling but Ireland is at the top of my list for something that I still want to do. I think I’m 46% Irish, but I’ve always been drawn to the photos and, of course, hearing your stories about the trips to Ireland. You look at the cliffs, those cascading sea cliffs, it’s something I’d really, really want to see. You know, kissing the Blarney Stone and…

Jim Scott 

That gave me the gift of gab?

Brian Romine 

[inaudible 38:41]

Tony Price 

It may have accentuated it.

Brian Romine 

But just traveling around and I’m an avid golfer, so I would love to hit some of the links in Ireland and give those a try. That’s certainly on the list. I’m also, I think, somewhat of an adventurist. The drawl to doing, and I’ve talked about this before, of course, the Everest base camp trek. I’ve looked into some of those trips and the way that those are planned. There’s a 19-day Everest trip starting in Kathmandu and you go through all the different villages. You stay at four different hotels and about 14 or 15 different cabins along the way. That sort of a trip is really appealing to me.

Jim Scott 

Sure. That would be quite the adventure.

Brian Romine 

Yeah. So, I think I would consider that on my bucket list, something I’d like to do before I can’t do it anymore.

Tony Price 

You can always do it.

Brian Romine 

I just may not come back.

Tony Price 

Exactly.

Brian Romine 

One other thing that I want to do is I want to see a rocket launch. I want to go watch NASA or SpaceX or somebody launch something into space. Me and the family sat down and watched the most recent SpaceX launch and the two astronauts first time the US has done it in over 10 years. Just watching it on TV gave me the chills. I can’t imagine what it would be like to actually be there in person. That launch was … there’s a lot of elements going on with the first launch in 10 years, US astronauts going into this space station. But also, being able to see like you never could before, the cameras that they have for, the first stage breaking away, the second stage breaking away and the first stage actually landing on a platform in the ocean, what an incredible feat. That to me would be an exciting thing to do. So, that’s definitely on a bucket list for me.

Jim Scott 

Yeah, that’d be great.

Tony Price 

Yeah, I have a ton of things I guess still on my bucket list.

Jim Scott 

Oh, yeah. Me, too.

Brian Romine 

Tell us about it. What’s next? I mean, if you could do anything without Coronavirus, nothing held back, what would be the next thing you’d do?

Tony Price 

Oh my god. Well, I don’t think like that. There is Coronavirus. I don’t have an endless amount of cash. So, I don’t know. But, there’s so many festivals I still want to see. I want to do Carnival in Rio.

Brian Romine 

What time of the year is that? Any idea?

Tony Price 

It’s always spring.

Jim Scott 

Same as Mardi Gras.

Tony Price 

It’s just down there. That’s supposedly one of the biggest and wildest and craziest ones. I’d like to see that. I want to go to Rio anyway, so why not go to the Carnival? You mentioned King’s Day, I want to do that. There’s the Safari. It’s huge. Rizzy was planning on doing that this year for me but that’s not happening. There’s several places to do that, too. Originally, I think about doing it in South Africa, but now I’m thinking more about the northern part of Africa, but that’s huge.

Brian Romine 

I remember, one of the things you were going to do this year that I don’t know if you consider it a bucket list item or not, but you were going to basically stay in the south of France for a month. And the research that you and the family did on going there and being able to stay in the south of France for a month and the costs associated with we’re really affordable compared to what you might think. And so, maybe not a bucket list item, but maybe, I don’t know, spending a month.

Yeah, I guess it’s not fair. I don’t even put that on my bucket list anymore because I’m definitely doing it. It’s not one of those things, I guess, it’s still a goal, but if we’re talking about an annual bucket list, that’s my annual bucket list – a month abroad every year, at least.

Well, the way the world is today depending on what profession you’re in, if you’re still working, not retired, in a lot of cases, it’s still very doable.

Tony Price 

Very doable. That’s not planning to have a month of vacation. I’m going to be working. But as people say, I’d rather be working in an awesome location that’s not what I see on a day to day basis.

Brian Romine 

Not that where we live isn’t awesome.

Tony Price 

No. Yeah, but different is different, right?

Jim Scott 

Makes it nice to come back to that place.

Brian Romine 

It does. Yeah.

Tony Price 

It does. So yeah, I mean, originally it was France this year and then Italy next year. It may still be Italy next year. I don’t know. But definitely, that is an annual bucket list thing.

Brian Romine 

To do it for the first time, that to me feels like kind of knocking something off the bucket list.

Tony Price 

Yeah, that is something that I can promise you that was never on my list a decade ago. Not even a conceptual thought entered my head about doing that.

Brian Romine 

So, do you recall what brought it to the forefront that made you think, “Oh, you know what?”

Tony Price 

Yeah, we talked about it a little bit I think the other week when we were discussing retirement, second homes, and things like that. For me, it was exploring where to travel, where to go, what to do, and realize that the world is small and you’re still connected no matter where you go. What I do for a living, I can pretty much do as long as I have high speed internet at this stage, so why not? You know, when you start looking at renting, especially how we travel, where we stay, in apartments most of the time, we’ll do hotels, but we’d like to get more of an intimate feel. If you’re going to be there for several days, it’s nice to have a little bit more room and that type of thing. When you start looking at the prices and you realize a week, not too much different than … or just lot less expensive than doing a day or two. The two weeks is not double and four weeks is definitely not four times. You can get a four week or an entire month location, it is really a good deal. Nah it’s still going to be expensive if you’re staying in Paris, but if you tried getting on the outskirts of different locations, you can get great deals, actually great deals.

Brian Romine 

Some people even, depending on the location you’re in, some people find a way to rent out their home that they are leaving behind for months. If you’re in a desirable location, and we know some are, and I think in our little town here that sometimes our homes might be, that would be a great way to offset some of the costs. That can definitely work. But yeah, I think, my mind set probably 15 years ago, 10 years ago would have been, “Well, that doesn’t seem reasonable. It would be cost prohibitive.” and you don’t really think about what Tony was just mentioning there that if you start expanding the timeframe that you’re going to be there, and you do a little bit of searching, and you don’t have to be right in the heart of the city, it can be very affordable.

Tony Price 

Yeah. I like the concept when you think about that we’re going to be … my goal is to travel a lot and visit a lot of places. And again, it’s for the whole experience of meeting new people, learning new cultures, trying new food, and just seeing how different people in the world live. It’s much easier to do if you’re trying to explore the central part of Italy, for example, is to move there for a month. Well, if you’re living in Washington, D.C., what’s not a big deal to drive to Arlington, Virginia? Not a big deal. But if you’re living in Rome and you’re going to fly to DC and then fly back and then you fly back to go to Arlington, that’s different. I mean, that’s more expensive. But if I’m living in Italy for a month, I can see a whole bunch of stuff in a month. That’s literally a day trip versus a week. It seems like a better way to explore the area because again, as we’ve been traveling a lot more, we want to explore, have a deeper dive into where I’m at as opposed to just seeing everything kind of at the 30,000 foot level. Yeah, not that I don’t want to see certain places you know and touch on it, then go back and dig deeper, but I do know that no matter where I go, I want to see a little bit more about what you can see in two or three days.

Brian Romine 

Yeah. So, how did you go about thinking about the location you’d want to be in South of France? What did you want to be…?

Tony Price 

It’s the south of France.

Brian Romine 

Well, it’s fairly large.

Tony Price 

It is. It’s still large. Just regions. Knowing France, there’s a lot of reasons why. I love Bordeaux wine. It’s close to the Atlantic, you’re very close to the coast, you’re close to a lot of villages, you’re close to railways, you’re close to the river. There’s so many things there that makes exploring out from Bordeaux very, very easy, and that’s how I picked it. But it wasn’t just that. It was also, I started searching for what’s available for a house for a month. That’s kind of how I narrowed it down to that location. But, it all depends, right? If you have tons of money, you don’t really care. And you’re like, “Well, I’ll just book wherever I want to go, whenever I go.”

Brian Romine 

That certainly sounds like a bucket list type of item to me to do. If you do it annually, then yeah, great.

That’s definitely what I do.

Jim Scott 

I’ve sort of felt the same way. I wouldn’t think of it kind of like, I guess you were or Brian was saying as a bucket list, but it is. As I get closer to retirement, I would love to go and spend maybe two or three months and get a place like that. But then, especially in Europe, you can hop to other countries and in bigger cities, an hour or two on a flight and get to all those countries. I mean, it’s not a high goal, but a goal of getting to every European country at some point. So, doing it that kind of way as opposed to just try and do it in a 10 day-trip or whatever, which you got to go at breakneck speed to get all these places, you can kind of relax, enjoy the local lifestyle. but then plan a weekend day trip over to wherever from Italy to Dubrovnik or to Krakow, Poland, like we talked about last week, so you can get these little pockets and get even more experience, which is the whole point of travel is – getting the experiences.

Brian Romine 

What a great way to maybe explore potential places to retire. So, if you’re thinking about retiring abroad or in a different country than where you’re living, then spend a month in the south of France, spend a month in Panama. Just the way we’ve talked about it, the way Tony talked about it there, something that can be very affordable, hit those places and maybe spend that time there. You can maybe figure out where you want to buy a place to retire. So now, I think we want to maybe get into just one.

Tony Price 

Yeah. So, like our top three bucket list as it stands today. So, each of us pick one and make it our top three list.

Brian Romine 

It would be the top three within the group. I don’t know that it would be my top three, what your other two are.

Tony Price 

We don’t care about what you think other than the one we have.

Brian Romine 

So, we’ll go around and everybody comes up with their top one, their very top. Basically, what you’d want to do next if there were no limitations, what the top bucket list item would be. Tony, you go first.

Tony Price 

So again, this goes back to how you define a bucket list item, compared to today. So my bucket list item, my top bucket list item is to see and visit the Natural Wonders of the World. Now that list kind of changes, right? Technically, I’ve only been to one of the lists that I have, which is the Grand Canyon. I want to do Everest. I want to hit Rio, like to do it during Carnival. The Great Barrier Reef, love to do that. Jim’s got to do the Northern Lights. I wouldn’t want that part of the trip. Victoria Falls, which seems to make sense to knock out when you do a Safari. And then I can’t ever pronounce it correctly, but it’s the volcano in Mexico. So that’s kind of, I guess, my top bucket list. I guess that’s cheating, because I’m picking like a bunch of things to do. That really is a bucket list. I’d like to see kind of the Natural Wonders of the World. And there’s new ones that have popped up. Those are all really cool, too, that we’ve talked about. My goal now is to do that because I know what’s going to happen is whenever I plan something like that, there’s going to be a bunch of little side things that happen because of it. Like when you go down to Mexico, I’ll probably do a couple other things. If I go to see the Great Barrier Reef, well, that’s a whole other trip in itself.

Brian Romine 

In all of the ones you’ve mentioned, you haven’t done any of those?

Tony Price 

No, other than the Grand Canyon, I haven’t been to any of those. Victoria Falls has always been on my list. It really has always been on my list. I hate to sound kind of crazy, but when you’ve traveled a decent amount, now you’re like, “I need to have something that inspires me.” and the Natural Wonders of the World seems pretty cool. They’re great locations, too, so that doesn’t suck.

Jim Scott 

Right.

Brian Romine 

Yeah, I could see that. That could climb near the top for me. So, how about you there, Jim?

Jim Scott 

Okay, well, I’ve definitely got a list. So, it’s going to be a handful of items but I’ve sort of separated them to areas that they are in. I haven’t been to South America for some reason. So, I’ve been looking at that and there’s a number of places within South America that are pretty incredible. The one that usually comes to everybody’s mind is Machu Picchu in Peru. So, I definitely want to get there. My dad’s been there. A few other people I know have been there. Technically, off the coast of Chile’s Easter islands, Terry Hall and Jim Reed have been there, and I definitely want to make that journey there. Coming back up a little bit Lake Titicaca. If you’re going to go to Machu Picchu, it’s not that far away. It’s on the border of Peru and Bolivia, and it’s the largest lake in South America. That’s where the Incas are said to have started or their part of their civilization began. If you’re in Bolivia, they have some incredible salt fields. This is a dried up lake from many millions of years ago. It’s got salt and other minerals. It’s like you see your reflection and the reflection of the sky. It’s just got some incredible visuals there. It looks like a really incredible place to go. And then the two other places. One, this waterfall is in three countries that come together – Paraguay, Argentina and Brazil. Its waterfall is called and I’m probably going to mess up – Iguazu Falls. It’s the largest waterfall in the world. It’s almost two miles wide. Several movies have been there, just incredible, different layers of the waterfall, and it’s just a beautiful, beautiful sight.

Tony Price 

And not to jump in on you, but we actually know somebody who’s been and stayed there. So, whenever you’re ready. They’ve told me some great stories. It’s on our list, too.

Jim Scott 

Yeah, so that’d be pretty incredible. And then, of course, the Galápagos…

Tony Price 

Easy for you to stay.

Brian Romine 

Come on, Jim.

Jim Scott 

Galápagos Islands, Darwin’s Island…

Brian Romine 

Galápagos. There we go.

Tony Price 

There you go.

Jim Scott 

I knew I had a D in there and I shouldn’t have. I couldn’t stop saying it. Anyhow, that’s just a fantastic journey to go to those islands and see living things and species that you don’t really see anywhere else in the world. That would just be an incredible trip on time. So, that is on the South American side. I always want to go to Antarctica. So, that is below South America, obviously. This kind of goes with some of the wonders of the world that Tony was talking about, going to Egypt, going to Giza and those pyramids, which are part of the Ancient Wonders of the World, one of the seven there, the Valley of the Pharaohs, the Sphinx, and all. Then you go to the South of Egypt and you got the Luxor and the Karnak Temple, Valley the Kings, and then Abu Simbel, which is Ramsay’s tomb, which is an incredible thing. From there, I’d like to hop over to Jordan and go to the city of Petra. It’s on the Seven New Wonders of the World, which is carved into the … This is in the Indiana Jones and the Lost … one of them.

Brian Romine 

Temple of Doom?

Jim Scott 

No. But anyhow, the whole city is carved into the limestone like into a [inaudible 57:37].

Brian Romine 

Oh, yes. I remember that.

Jim Scott 

That’s just incredible. So, certainly that’s not my entire list, but that is a nice list that if I’m able to get all those things, I would have a happy life.

Tony Price 

What’s your big pick out of all those, though? What’s your first?

Jim Scott 

The big pick is doing the Egypt-Jordan combo.

Tony Price 

I’d be with you on that one. Egypt’s always been a kind of like a fascination for me.

Jim Scott 

Yeah. When you think a bucket list, which I wouldn’t really talk about like this when I was a kid in the ’70s and all, but the pyramids always have been a fascination.

Tony Price 

It’s kind of like the Acropolis when we saw it. I think that’s the kind of same feeling when you see the pyramids, and that’s just going to be wild.

Jim Scott 

Yeah. So, that would be the top one. Absolutely.

Tony Price 

All right. Mr. Roman, what do you got?

Brian Romine 

Well, I’ll break mine up into maybe two different categories. One is just very selfish-like, what is it that would be my ultimate bucket list that is probably unreasonable and unlikely to ever happen, but I want to go into space. So, if I can find a way to do that for me, none of my family’s going to go. By the way, I’ve talked with him about it and my youngest told me the other day, he was like, “No, I don’t think so, Dad.” I’d love to work for NASA maybe and work in the science and space industry.” [inaudible 59:11] I’d probably be about as worthwhile as a monkey going into space as far as what my skills would be to perform experiments.

Tony Price 

I think you think highly of yourself.

Brian Romine 

I didn’t realize this was going to be a beat up around episode. But the perspective when you hear the astronauts being interviewed and the change in their perspective of your spiritual being, and being in space and seeing the earth, surrounded by blackness, I think that would be an incredible experience. So for me, “Will I ever afford it?” I don’t know. Maybe I can afford one of those balloon trips they’re talking about to the edge of space where you can see the curvature of the earth. There’s talk of those coming online within the next couple of years. And you know, those might be in the $10,000 range. So, maybe at some point, maybe at some point.

Tony Price 

How about something actually doable this year?

Brian Romine 

Oh, this year.

Tony Price 

Next year.

Brian Romine 

Next year. So, yeah. Coming back down to Earth. Haha. I think I mentioned it earlier, I think Ireland would be the place I’d want to go. I think it would be a great trip for me and my family. Kind of explore our roots, see some of those incredible visuals as Jim was talking about. Probably, take the golf clubs and do the whole tour of Ireland, and all of that experience.

Tony Price 

Yeah, that’s actually one of our top downloaded episodes. Everything we talked about Ireland seems to be highly valid. So, that’s definitely a popular place.

Brian Romine 

That’ll be my first next step.

Tony Price 

Okay. So, I guess our three are Ireland, Egypt and Seven Wonders of the World.

Jim Scott 

There we go.

Brian Romine 

Outer space.

Tony Price 

Can’t throw outer space into this because you can’t go there.

Brian Romine 

Not outer, just …

Tony Price 

You can’t even go this year. You can’t go next year.

Jim Scott 

It’ll be on the list with an asteroid.

Brian Romine 

Don’t say can’t. Don’t challenge me.

Tony Price 

You’re thrown into a space dumpster or something,

Brian Romine 

Stow away.

Tony Price 

Well, cool.

Brian Romine 

Very good.

Tony Price 

All right. So, now we have goals.

Jim Scott 

We have goals, we have trips we need to take and start booking.

Tony Price 

And now we just need to wait for uh…

Jim Scott 

… for this [inaudible 1:01:38] virus to go away.

Tony Price 

We’ll get there. Well, again, everybody can check us out at friendsthatcarryon.com. All the social media channels @friendsthatcarryon. Make sure, again, to check in because we’re having … the new fan page is going to come up, so you can win … You basically have, out of every 500 fans, right?

Brian Romine 

Right.

Tony Price 

Yeah, I’ll explain this. Make sure I got it right. Out of every 500 fans, you have a chance to win a trip.

Jim Scott 

Yeah, the next 500 fans have a chance to win a trip. And then once you become friends with benefits …

Brian Romine 

Oh, that’s awesome.

Jim Scott 

We plan on giving away trips quarterly. So, you’ll have a chance for trips on an ongoing basis. So go to the website, subscribe. You’ll get the podcast every time they get published, which is on a weekly basis. We have travel expert segments now that are coming out with travel deals and the latest info on how to travel. So, you’ll get access to those. Lots of other tips and discounts and offers, and so forth.

Tony Price 

Yeah. As a fan, you can subscribe to the website. But also as a fan, you … the fan package, you’ll get a T-shirt, probably a couple other little things, but it’s the inside things that you also get to come along with it plus the chance of winning a trip every quarter, some inside travel tips, and also some bonus of some of our travel buddies that when you book a trip someplace, they can probably hook you up with a couple things that you’ll get there.

Jim Scott 

There’ll be some codes that if you book a travel or trip with them [inaudible 1:03:18]

Tony Price 

Definitely keep an eye out for that. So, cool.

Brian Romine 

Very good. Well, that was the Friends That Carry On Podcast for today. Thanks everybody for joining us and we will talk to you next time.

Tony Price 

Adios.

Jim Scott 

Thank you.

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