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In advanced grief"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":23.129,"endTime":26.639,"body":"ecovery methods specialist, I"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":26.639,"endTime":29.999,"body":"now how badly the conversation"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":26.639,"endTime":29.999,"body":"round grief needs to change."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":30.629,"endTime":34.349,"body":"hrough this podcast, I aim to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":30.629,"endTime":34.349,"body":"ducate gravers and non Grievers"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":34.349,"endTime":38.189,"body":"like, spread hope and inspire"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":34.349,"endTime":38.189,"body":"ompassion towards those"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":38.189,"endTime":42.359,"body":"urting. Lastly, by providing my"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":38.189,"endTime":42.359,"body":"eart with the ears and this"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":42.359,"endTime":45.569,"body":"latform, Grievers had the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":42.359,"endTime":45.569,"body":"pportunity to share their"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":45.569,"endTime":50.609,"body":"isdom and stories of loss and"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":45.569,"endTime":50.609,"body":"esiliency. How about we talk"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":50.609,"endTime":54.089,"body":"bout grief like we talked about"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":50.609,"endTime":54.089,"body":"he weather. Let's get started."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":57.78,"endTime":59.91,"body":"Hello on today's"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":60.0,"endTime":65.19,"body":"episode we are going to dive"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":60.0,"endTime":65.19,"body":"into the definition of grief."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":65.82,"endTime":70.26,"body":"And I like to start with the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":65.82,"endTime":70.26,"body":"dictionary's definition, which"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":70.29,"endTime":70.95,"body":"is"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":72.029,"endTime":77.999,"body":"defined as a noun of deep"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":72.029,"endTime":77.999,"body":"sorrow, especially that caused"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":77.999,"endTime":83.279,"body":"by someone's death. 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And grief by any other"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":143.159,"endTime":150.299,"body":"name, such as stress, or"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":143.159,"endTime":150.299,"body":"burnout, even PTSD, sometimes"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":150.299,"endTime":153.899,"body":"you'll hear the phrase"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":150.299,"endTime":153.899,"body":"complicated grief, maybe even"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":153.899,"endTime":162.269,"body":"depression is still grief. Grief"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":153.899,"endTime":162.269,"body":"is also the response to a change"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":162.269,"endTime":169.649,"body":"in or end of any familiar"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":162.269,"endTime":169.649,"body":"pattern of behavior. So, you"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":169.649,"endTime":175.829,"body":"know, consider the current times"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":169.649,"endTime":175.829,"body":"with COVID-19 with the racial"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":175.829,"endTime":182.789,"body":"and justice and unrest going on"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":175.829,"endTime":182.789,"body":"in the world. There's a lot of"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":183.389,"endTime":192.269,"body":"grief in response to the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":183.389,"endTime":192.269,"body":"changes. 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You can also lose"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1359.18,"endTime":1370.91,"body":"hope. And after so many years of"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1370.91,"endTime":1375.92,"body":"grief I think I gotten to the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1370.91,"endTime":1375.92,"body":"point where I kind of had lost"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1375.92,"endTime":1380.66,"body":"some hope. And, you know, I just"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1375.92,"endTime":1380.66,"body":"got sick and tired Of being"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1380.66,"endTime":1390.2,"body":"tired of feeling the way I was"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1380.66,"endTime":1390.2,"body":"feeling. And yeah, it's you."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1391.22,"endTime":1395.24,"body":"There's just grief is just so"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1391.22,"endTime":1395.24,"body":"much more than just about death."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1397.58,"endTime":1402.35,"body":"And then we see it on the news."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1397.58,"endTime":1402.35,"body":"So you see, see it in the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1402.35,"endTime":1407.3,"body":"newspaper, you see it on TV, the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1402.35,"endTime":1407.3,"body":"lady in the grocery store,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1408.5,"endTime":1413.3,"body":"sharing her grief stories. You"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1408.5,"endTime":1413.3,"body":"know, she's not saying it like"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1413.3,"endTime":1419.39,"body":"that, but she's talking about"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1413.3,"endTime":1419.39,"body":"you know, maybe she lost her job"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1419.39,"endTime":1422.18,"body":"or you know, but people don't"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1419.39,"endTime":1422.18,"body":"use the word grief right?"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1422.69,"endTime":1423.56,"body":"grieving."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1424.28,"endTime":1430.4,"body":"tell you the story. They don't"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1424.28,"endTime":1430.4,"body":"tell you how they feel. Even"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1430.4,"endTime":1434.63,"body":"though they really want you to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1430.4,"endTime":1434.63,"body":"know how they feel. You're"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1434.66,"endTime":1441.08,"body":"always going to resort back to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1434.66,"endTime":1441.08,"body":"the story and so it's it's Being"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1441.08,"endTime":1444.59,"body":"a heart with ears and really"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1441.08,"endTime":1444.59,"body":"listening and having an"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1444.59,"endTime":1450.74,"body":"awareness of yourself as well."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1444.59,"endTime":1450.74,"body":"Where you talk about the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1450.74,"endTime":1455.84,"body":"feelings instead of just, you"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1450.74,"endTime":1455.84,"body":"know, being stuck on the story."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1461.54,"endTime":1467.36,"body":"One of the things too that you"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1461.54,"endTime":1467.36,"body":"know, because grief begins in"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1467.36,"endTime":1473.78,"body":"childhood and, and in our youth."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1467.36,"endTime":1473.78,"body":"You know, we're born with"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1473.78,"endTime":1477.74,"body":"perfect harmony, intuition,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1473.78,"endTime":1477.74,"body":"intellect and emotion like it's"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1477.86,"endTime":1486.41,"body":"perfectly in harmony. And, you"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1477.86,"endTime":1486.41,"body":"know, by the age of three, we"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1486.41,"endTime":1491.66,"body":"have learned 75% of the basic"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1486.41,"endTime":1491.66,"body":"tools and concepts that we will"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1491.66,"endTime":1498.26,"body":"use throughout our life. And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1491.66,"endTime":1498.26,"body":"there was a pediatrician who was"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1498.26,"endTime":1502.31,"body":"interviewed was about grief, I"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1498.26,"endTime":1502.31,"body":"can't remember exactly, I think"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1502.31,"endTime":1507.2,"body":"in the UK maybe. And he was"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1502.31,"endTime":1507.2,"body":"asked, When does the bright Miss"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1507.2,"endTime":1510.68,"body":"leave their eyes, you know,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1507.2,"endTime":1510.68,"body":"talking about children. And he"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1510.68,"endTime":1516.41,"body":"said in middle school, you know,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1510.68,"endTime":1516.41,"body":"and that's 95% of our decision"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1516.41,"endTime":1521.87,"body":"making powers are established by"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1516.41,"endTime":1521.87,"body":"the age of 15. So by the time we"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1521.87,"endTime":1527.63,"body":"reach Middle School, we have"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1521.87,"endTime":1527.63,"body":"already learned and received the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1527.63,"endTime":1533.75,"body":"tools and concepts that we will"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1527.63,"endTime":1533.75,"body":"use for decision making. And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1534.53,"endTime":1539.48,"body":"that's true when it comes to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1534.53,"endTime":1539.48,"body":"grief. Like how we are taught,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1539.6,"endTime":1544.73,"body":"the messages we receive, and how"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1539.6,"endTime":1544.73,"body":"we deal with grief. We learned"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1544.85,"endTime":1549.92,"body":"at a time we were age 15. So"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1544.85,"endTime":1549.92,"body":"this is why it's so important"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1550.79,"endTime":1556.43,"body":"that we start talking about"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1550.79,"endTime":1556.43,"body":"grief. Like a feeling. We start"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1556.43,"endTime":1561.11,"body":"talking about grief like we talk"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1556.43,"endTime":1561.11,"body":"about the weather And that we"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1561.11,"endTime":1569.66,"body":"stop shying away from others"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1561.11,"endTime":1569.66,"body":"pain and sorrow, that we start"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1569.69,"endTime":1573.59,"body":"having some awareness around our"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1569.69,"endTime":1573.59,"body":"own in the behaviors that we"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1573.59,"endTime":1583.31,"body":"resort to to avoid what is ours,"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1573.59,"endTime":1583.31,"body":"what our feelings are. Because"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1583.31,"endTime":1591.71,"body":"grief unites us all. In grief is"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1583.31,"endTime":1591.71,"body":"not a noun. It's a feeling. So"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1591.71,"endTime":1596.33,"body":"that is today's episode, I feel"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1591.71,"endTime":1596.33,"body":"like I have definitely shared"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1596.33,"endTime":1602.0,"body":"the definition of grief that is"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1596.33,"endTime":1602.0,"body":"more than just about death. Next"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1602.0,"endTime":1609.08,"body":"week, I will be sharing how and"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1602.0,"endTime":1609.08,"body":"why grief keeps us stuck. So I"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1609.08,"endTime":1612.53,"body":"hope you tune in for that. Until"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1609.08,"endTime":1612.53,"body":"next time, take care"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1620.0,"endTime":1623.6,"body":"From my heart to yours, thank"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1620.0,"endTime":1623.6,"body":"you for listening. If you liked"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1623.6,"endTime":1628.19,"body":"this episode, please share it"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1623.6,"endTime":1628.19,"body":"because Sharing is caring. And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1628.19,"endTime":1631.76,"body":"until next time, give and share"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1628.19,"endTime":1631.76,"body":"compassion by being a heart with"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1631.76,"endTime":1635.9,"body":"yours. And if you're hurting"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1631.76,"endTime":1635.9,"body":"know that what you're feeling is"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1635.9,"endTime":1639.26,"body":"normal and natural. Much love my"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1635.9,"endTime":1639.26,"body":"friend."}]}