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And so if you have any"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1953.4,"endTime":1958.02,"body":"questions on anything that I've"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1953.4,"endTime":1958.02,"body":"shared today, or any services"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1958.02,"endTime":1961.83,"body":"that I offer, please don't"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1958.02,"endTime":1961.83,"body":"hesitate to look me up on my"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1961.83,"endTime":1965.58,"body":"website, there is the contact"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1961.83,"endTime":1965.58,"body":"form at"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1967.77,"endTime":1973.14,"body":"www.theunleashedheart.com. I do"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1967.77,"endTime":1973.14,"body":"have free resources on there for"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1973.23,"endTime":1979.92,"body":"ebooks about grief and loss, as"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1973.23,"endTime":1979.92,"body":"well as an opt in for my bi"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1979.92,"endTime":1985.86,"body":"weekly newsletter that I send"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1979.92,"endTime":1985.86,"body":"out every other Wednesday of"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1985.95,"endTime":1992.49,"body":"every month. I used to have it"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1985.95,"endTime":1992.49,"body":"weekly. But I feel like to make"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1992.49,"endTime":1996.57,"body":"it the best it can be I needed a"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1992.49,"endTime":1996.57,"body":"little bit of space and I needed"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1996.57,"endTime":2001.88,"body":"some mental bandwidth as well to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":1996.57,"endTime":2001.88,"body":"ensure that it is continues to"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2001.88,"endTime":2006.23,"body":"be really good content. So check"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2001.88,"endTime":2006.23,"body":"those resources out. And I will"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2006.23,"endTime":2010.37,"body":"also link to some things in the"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2006.23,"endTime":2010.37,"body":"show notes. And remember, when"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2010.37,"endTime":2014.57,"body":"you unleash your heart, you"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2010.37,"endTime":2014.57,"body":"unleash your life. Much love."},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2021.88,"endTime":2025.57,"body":"From my heart to yours. Thank"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2021.88,"endTime":2025.57,"body":"you for listening. If you liked"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2025.57,"endTime":2030.16,"body":"this episode, please share it"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2025.57,"endTime":2030.16,"body":"because Sharing is caring. And"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2030.16,"endTime":2033.73,"body":"until next time, give and share"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2030.16,"endTime":2033.73,"body":"compassion by being hurt with"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2033.73,"endTime":2037.87,"body":"yours. And if you're hurting"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2033.73,"endTime":2037.87,"body":"know that what you're feeling is"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2037.87,"endTime":2041.2,"body":"normal and natural. Much love my"},{"speaker":"Victoria Volk","startTime":2037.87,"endTime":2041.2,"body":"friend"}]}